I use "Video Guru", it's a free app, it's basic and I edit with it on a crappy Samung a12 phone.. My long form videos get hundreds of thousands and some millions of views. Fellow tubers of planet earth concentrate on story and your channel will take off like a North Korean satellite to Mars. Oh errm...maybe not North Korean. 🎉
No one uses Flame for feature film. It is primarily used in the commercial world for finishing. Its editing toolset isn't meant for complex editing timelines, it is primarily meant for vfx editorial. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Yeah, from what I've read recently, a lot of edit suites will use Flame in front of the client, to piece together - and maybe make a few tweaks to - the real work made by Nuke artists in the same facility.
This video is amazing. A somewhat sad reality for us in the Flame world, but amazing that you made it. I've been using Flame for 10 years, I'm staff Flame artist, sometimes I make Flame tutorials, and I would be ecstatic to answer all of the questions you asked throughout the video, but I think I'll leave it at: Flame is def finnicky and you need to do things "the Flame way" and not "the Premiere way". A quick glance tells me that you were going a little too hardcore in the timeline there, thus the familiar Preview Unavailable. BUT, for anyone out there interested in Flame, please know there is a very delightful, helpful, amazing Flame community out there called Logik and we would be more than happy to answer all of your questions all the time. Go Flame :)
This is fascinating because I work in VFX and Flame VFX artists are some of the best comp artists in the world. They are paid the most and do the highest level of work. Editing in Flame feels like editing in AE to me haha
There's nothing you can do in Flame that can't be done in AE or Nuke. I'm a VFX artist and I can do anything that Flame artists do, in both Nuke and AE.
@@getbetterasap can you deliver 800 versions of a global campaign in under 6 hours along with generics, clocking, all whilst balancing mixed colour spaces? Yes, but probably not. Actually I probably couldn’t either, but it would be close. I love all 3 softwares, but if I need to do heavy lifting, then flame is my friend.
@@Rickyexpress I build my own 3D models in Maya > import it to AE (unless I work in a team and then I'd import it in Nuke) > export to Da Vinci for colour grading > and the outcome is a lot better than what you'd get from a single program, because all those programs offer wider range of tools and flexibility over Flame. Flame is alright, but a high-end production is done with a wide variety of tools, because each tool has its own pros and cons. It's much better this way than squeezing everything into one program.
well compositing and video editing are two different jobs. when it comes to pro compositing,it is alot more than just using a simple mask or just remove green screen. The software is made for alot more complicated stuff for the vfx business.
1 hour of profesional DaVinci: 30 minutes long short film done 1 minute of enjoying Nuke: 1.45 hour long feature film VFX composition and approved by James Cameron done ready for theaters
I was on the edge, but the final result at the end of the video was it for me. I'm getting flame for 14 million dollars per week or however expensive it was. Thanks finzar.
It seems like this software is something that some Hollywood editors use, even though it is the least user friendly thing on planet earth and then you ask why not use Davinci/Premiere to edit and they just say "it's just what we've always done". There is no logical reason this should be used, in my opinion.
If there's an easier and more efficient way people will take it. In the hands of a master editor, this software is probably better and more customizable than competitors (just my thoughts)
the funny thing is, as a flame artist (we are definetely not editors, maybe Online editors but its not scene assembly etc) doing anything I do in flame would be absolutely impossible in Premiere and I constantly am in the same pain you are in right now when using creativecloud apps because its cumbersome and bad quality. We live in a different environment where editors dont export final "edits" its all split up into tasks because each task is so heavy
What? Are you seriously comparing Flame to Pr? Pr is a general editing tool, Flame is for VFX. If anything, then you can compare Flame to After Effects, and in that case After Effects is better. I've been working in studios my whole life, and I've been using Nuke, AE and Flame, and if you're a solo artist, then go with AE for VFX. If you're in a team, get Nuke. If you're stupid - get Flame.
It's very suspicious how everyone commenting positively about it like you are never ever make an effort to give an example of how Flame is supposedly superior. I'm guessing the "doing anything I do in flame would be absolutely impossible in primere" is hyperbole, since that's unlikely to be true for such obvious reasons (are you also going to try to get me to believe that the earth is flat? 😂).
@@getbetterasap this comment made me sad to read, I use all 3 softwares for years and although each one has its benefits…when I’m running solo, Flame is my best friend. I’ve had to do heavy lifting on shots for a job and seriously deliver 1800 versions for global markets, I could never have achieved this in Nuke or AE. I agree, nuke is good on a multi shot multi person team (films, episodic) AE although good and possibly great at VFX in the right hands is more my graphic design based animation tool. However, if I need to smash out 100s of versions of commercials and do beauty work, background replacements, adding fire or smoke or water…flame is my tool. It can go so damn fast in the right hands, and often my rooms full of clients are left dazzled by the speed of it. I just love it, so not sure why you feel it’s stupid?
@@awesomeferret wtf. its a totally different world to Premiere it doesnt even compare at ALL. its not made for editing so yea it can do a LOT of stuff that premiere can not do, conform, proper node based compositing, colormanagement, connected Conform,. hell even basics like manual stabilisation of shots and not the click and pray premiere warp crap... actual animation curves for proper timewarps and sooooo much more. Nuke is a better comp tool, avid is a better editor, resolve is better at color but Flame is better than all combined in Finishing and heavy VFX workflows ... if you dont feel like you are hitting a wall in premiere/ae then you probably dont need it
I once had an internship at a German TV channel. They were using Avid for just about everything. Only knowing Premiere and a bit of Davinci beforehand, this video is precisely what I felt like.
AVID and their ancient Programs... Ughh. Because it is apparently still used a Lot in TV-Studios we had to learn & to edit with it in school. I'm so glad that it was only in our first year and I could switch back to Premiere/Resolve afterwards. 😂
I learnt Avid, it's scarily stable compared to Premiere. It's not that massively dissimilar, just you can't just ingest any old file. But it makes it super stable...it's dodgy files that would kill Premiere. But Flame/Nuke are just totally different, like trying to build meccano with Lego You CAN do it, but it's painful.
I was in the same position as you, the only difference being it's my current job as well (video editor on a TV channel). When I was just hired we were still using avid for video editing. Had a bit of a learning curve since I use davinci resolve for my personal videos, and hadn't touched premiere pro for about 2-3 years at that point. Avid is fine (the program has its quirks but it's manageable), but the thing that annoyed me the most was the lack of GPU acceleration support. Every time I imported or exported something I had to wait for a while, which slowed down my work. Eventually we switched to premiere pro and that significantly sped up everything. Then I also started bringing my notebook in (and remembered how to use premiere pro) since I'm not the only video editor at my workplace. Life's good now.
This video made me remember my days learning flame 20 years ago. back in the day internet database was new and there weren't any tutorials anywhere. only a handful of guys were able to master flame because of the steep learning curve. It's an amazing software once you figure out how to use it. nothings else comes close.
I appreciate that at the end, you came out of it with a greater appreciation for visual effects artists, instead of writing off the tool altogether. Pretty fun video. You should try tackling nuke next 😈
Hey Finzar, You continue to be my favorite editor, never failing to impress me. I used to struggle with learning, feeling like I was alone in the challenge. However, your latest video has shown me your dedication and honesty in the learning process. It’s incredibly inspiring! I’ve only been learning Premiere Pro for a few weeks and was on the verge of giving up. But after discovering your tutorials, my perspective changed completely. Editing isn’t as daunting when you have a great teacher, and your guidance has been a game-changer for me. You saved me. I now watch your videos from start to finish, captivated by every second. Your content is not just informative but also incredibly engaging. I appreciate your hard work and dedication so much. You’ve reignited my passion for editing, and I’m excited about creating great videos in the future. I believe in myself, thanks to you. You’ve done an amazing job, and I’m truly grateful. Thank you, Finzar!
Awesome video! I’m still struggling with Premiere Pro editing my videos 😂 I just learnt you can save multiple effects as a single preset if you highlight them and save… the grind is real
Most of the industry has moved over to Nuke for compositing. Flame is is extremely outdated. Flame used to be a full hardware/software system costing an insane amount of money. But at that time it was the only way to actually have somewhat realtime playback.
It was one of the first high end digital compositing tool in the mid 90's mainly use for music video or commercial VFX on TV, as you sayed it's half dedicated hardware with a dedicated software, it was not made for editing like AVID or now Da Vinci resolve those last one was also a dedicated hardware and proprietary solution for digital Color grading in the mid 90's too, today it's the acquisition of Black Magic Design, it's an all in one package almost free and the payed version give you acces to HDR and dolby vision export it was very affordable if you buy one of there Black Magic design hardware solution or camera.
RECENTLY CAME ACROSS THIS CHANNEL TO LEARN BUT HE NEVER FAILS TO MAKE ME LAUGH EVERY NOW AND THEN. AMAZING WORK BROTHER. KEEP GOING, WISHING U HUGE SUCCESS AND GOOD HEALTH
I've used FLAME within my production company for a year now. I absolutely love it. We've been running it on a MAC. I wish they would port it to a PC-maybe in the future. Good video, by the way.
@@AyushBakshi Sure, this gave me a challenge. I'm fluent in Premiere and gave Resolve a shot (I didn't care for it, really). FLAME is a BEAST. It has a steep learning curve, but the outcome is really worth it... Everything is integrated into this system...
@@bellvuehillapart9782@bellvuehillapart9782 Yeah, why? Because my PC is more advanced than the MacBook...lol Don't get me wrong..the Macbook still kicks ass, but the screen is too tiny...porting to a bigger screen there are latency issues.
Morrel of the story is dont complain about premier, Photoshop and after effects and just stick to them. Thank you FIN for traveling into where no efitor should go.
Thank God someone uploaded a challenge video where they admitted to failure. Even tho the flame edit didn't work out, I still enjoyed watching and mad respect for accepting to quit and posting it publicly lol
Love your videos Fin, You inspired me to edit and create videos and I am extremely thankful, I'm also saving up for your editing course. Keep up the amazing work man! Mad respect.
would be really cool if you do a followup to this where you bring on a professional flame editor and really find out what the *point* of this software is over other NLEs - to the untrained eye and seeing your experience, the value prospect is nonexistent - even if this was *free* software, let alone that pricetag - so there's got to be something juicy that would direct a customer base to keep using it over software thats far more intuitive, performant, and affordable
Awesome/Informative/Entertaining video as usual. Just want to say, your videos and editing skills inspired me to learn how to do just that! Started a channel and everything from that so thank you Finzar.
Flame software and hardware in the 2000’s costed over 100k usd . It’s an online tool that combines vfx , edit , grading and more. And it was realtime or near realtime. No one uses Flame for editing short form or long form. Nowadays Resolve studio got pretty much all of that for 300 usd
This is also something ppl need to realize... Editing and vfx are different departments.. Many vfx artist aren't storytellers they are great at enhancing story.... We have been spoiled with software making the average Joe good at hiding not being a pro but the pros are a different breed. They get the pay scale becuase they did spend the time and effort to master these techniques that makes good content for UA-cam video fail stories.
YOU PAY HOW MUCH FOR ADOBE SUITE!? I do the student 20 bucks a month and then have them refund me because half the time an update will brick a project.
Not a Flame user but if something is used on Hollywood level its not for common people and editors like us and subscription also tells it (indirectly) flame is know for being 100% stable non crashy software with good specs, every software that Hollywood uses has nodes, Maya has nodes, Nuke has nodes Resolve's color pannel has nodes, Mari Has nodes, nodes are the oy answer too the professional and flexible level work and yes as some who uses nodes 90 hours a week in nuke nodes are far more powerful easy than layers and way more organized. Nodes moght have steep learning curve but once understand the logic you are never ever gonna love layers trust me
thank you, i will waste no more time on this vidéo PS : for those that actually once watched a tutorial on Nuke, After effects also has a 3D space, an can also import 3D objects.
You know what software is also widely used in the Hollywood industry, also has a node based compositor and also is an editing, compositing, color corection and audio mixing software all on one? DaVinci Resolve! YES, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THE FREE SOFTWARE DOES BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT FLAME DOES, JUST MORE USER FRIENDLY AND AGAIN... FOR F R E E!
Love Flame and it's actually performing way better than Adobe Software in my experience. But it has a step learning curve at the beginning and does things quite differentl than the Adobe software, So just starting without an instructor or doing the baseline tutorials, you will hit a wall pretty fast like in this video.
I remember while studying at BU NCCA, back in 2003, there was much talk in the industry about the need for "Inferno Artists". Apparently Inferno was Flame's big brother (I think the order was Combustion / Flint / Flame / Inferno). We were learning Combustion and Softimage XSI. The pay for an Inferno Artist was ridiculus back then, but the only way to learn it, was from another artist at a big production company. That said I believe this was before Nuke became the industry standard in the UK, but I could be wrong as I was studying Computer Animation, not VFX.
Flame was developed in the 90s, along with its high end version Inferno, to work on tv commercials and movies. General purpose computers were nowhere near what it could do. The closest competitor was Quantel Henry and Domino(but they were lacking tools that Flame had). In the hands of an experienced Flame artist, problems are solved in near real time so it suits a client supervised environment. Aftereffects, while pretty good at compositing and motion graphics, falls apart when working on complex composites. Nuke is the preferred software for unsupervised CGI VFX composites(there's no way you would use Nuke with a client breathing down your neck). So Flame has its place....But it's very expensive and not many artists know how to use it.
What’s the point of something being so expensive and uselessly not user friendly? I still do not get it.. like does it have its price tag because of who used it? How is this justified because I’m genuinely baffled and confused
It probably has a niche feature set that makes certain things really easy for Flame masters; things that even masters of other programs would struggle to do as quickly/as well in their preferred software
Ah Flame the stuff of nightmares. Back in the day I used to use Smoke (flames little brother) It's very much a gentlemens club when it comes to this community within the film and post industry. Very little community support your own your lonesome for flame. Back then Smoke and Flame was only available on specialist hardware to run which costs into 100k+ it's bonkers when simplicity is the key. One thing to grasp is this software is based around the gestures movement to access those menus. Nodes is by far the most powerful over layer based. Flame is used in commercial mainly and sometimes in film. I wouldn't edit it on it. It's clunky to do so. So the best workflow is giving to the operator a XML / edl file of the edit for them to build and work the 2nd phase which would have been VFX and maybe grade. I'm actually surprised to hear that it's only available for Mac. Normally the favourite would have been Linux or windows as the OS of choice. Well-done for trying at least you tasted the forbidden fruit and felt it's sting. If you understand nodes then that side would easily translate over to nuke / fusion / Davinci etc
the tutorial thing where people just say "okay do this and this and this" without really explaining anything and they probably also will mumble some random shit about that doesnt pertain to the videos topic too like i totally get that. that was my experience with cinema 4d. tutorials on here suck for that and it seems like people are gatekeeping their knowledge about it even IF there's a "tutorial". thats why i love the blender community so much because everyone is so helpful.
Skill Issue, He said he spent 2 weeks making the green screen, but considering how much fun he had, going to different places and recording this parody, I bet he didn't even spend 24 hours working on this program.
hey finzar, just wanted to say can you make more videos like undercover editing...showing the entire process of getting a client, creating a portfolio and stuff that series is really inspiring
Would you use Flame to edit your videos? 💀🔥
New presets at: storezar.com !!
Oh hell naw
I use "Video Guru", it's a free app, it's basic and I edit with it on a crappy Samung a12 phone.. My long form videos get hundreds of thousands and some millions of views. Fellow tubers of planet earth concentrate on story and your channel will take off like a North Korean satellite to Mars. Oh errm...maybe not North Korean. 🎉
yes
waiting on Flame vs Blender 🗣
@@just_mdd4 not even on the same league bro, Flame is a one stop post production suite where Blender is a 3D software.
I’m never complaining about premiere pro again after watching this
nah fr 😭😭😭😭
real 🤣🤣🤣
you'll if you move to resolve
to be honest true
Ofc Dan is here
For this amount of money i would expect the video to edit itself XDDD
instead it adds more steps 💀
Bro for real I get better editing using CapCut 2 hand apps to get all this for that amount of money 😂😂😂😂😂
Like give it to a editor 😂 who will edit it for you
@@mr.theeditori didnt google but I think the main point of that soft is on keeping the highest possible quality of audio and video. I could be wrong
@@AlterRizz maybe, but also that you have all the softwares (like he explained) in one
Having a cracked version of premiere pro doesn’t make me feel bad, owning a cracked version of this would make me feel like a super villain 💀.
😂😂😂😂 first thing I thought about
I need an updated version of premier cracked without losing anything
I just checked and it IS AVAILABLE lol 😂
@@SaranKRS could you send the link? plz
idk how you people have the cracked version without getting your youtube channel and emails hacked
No one uses Flame for feature film. It is primarily used in the commercial world for finishing. Its editing toolset isn't meant for complex editing timelines, it is primarily meant for vfx editorial. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Yeah, from what I've read recently, a lot of edit suites will use Flame in front of the client, to piece together - and maybe make a few tweaks to - the real work made by Nuke artists in the same facility.
@@j0shj0shj0sh exactly
In short definition is a Fusion alternative compositing.
@@j0shj0shj0shNuke for the win. Just a perfect software.
Dont know feature films, but worked in tv, and Avid is used by most. Just really stable and good collab for big teams.
As a frame user, it was so difficult for me to go through Autodesk Flame but now i don't have any problem because i never used that software again.
😂😂😂
You got us in the first half not gonna lie 😂
😂😂
Nah you use DaVinci. You said it on another comment section.
@@DynamicLightsHe's joking
This video is amazing. A somewhat sad reality for us in the Flame world, but amazing that you made it. I've been using Flame for 10 years, I'm staff Flame artist, sometimes I make Flame tutorials, and I would be ecstatic to answer all of the questions you asked throughout the video, but I think I'll leave it at: Flame is def finnicky and you need to do things "the Flame way" and not "the Premiere way". A quick glance tells me that you were going a little too hardcore in the timeline there, thus the familiar Preview Unavailable. BUT, for anyone out there interested in Flame, please know there is a very delightful, helpful, amazing Flame community out there called Logik and we would be more than happy to answer all of your questions all the time. Go Flame :)
trust this guy ^ he taught me most of what I know about flame
I think that community would still be small bro.
Flame it's really expensive
Logik is the most amazing community, two thumbs up!
quick question, is there any reason why we must use flame?
@@hariopamungkas2811 Using Flame allows you to look down your nose at all the peons who don't.
This is fascinating because I work in VFX and Flame VFX artists are some of the best comp artists in the world. They are paid the most and do the highest level of work. Editing in Flame feels like editing in AE to me haha
Oh, so goodluck to that 25 subcribers man. 🤣🤣🤣
There's nothing you can do in Flame that can't be done in AE or Nuke. I'm a VFX artist and I can do anything that Flame artists do, in both Nuke and AE.
@@getbetterasap can you deliver 800 versions of a global campaign in under 6 hours along with generics, clocking, all whilst balancing mixed colour spaces? Yes, but probably not. Actually I probably couldn’t either, but it would be close. I love all 3 softwares, but if I need to do heavy lifting, then flame is my friend.
@@Rickyexpress I build my own 3D models in Maya > import it to AE (unless I work in a team and then I'd import it in Nuke) > export to Da Vinci for colour grading > and the outcome is a lot better than what you'd get from a single program, because all those programs offer wider range of tools and flexibility over Flame. Flame is alright, but a high-end production is done with a wide variety of tools, because each tool has its own pros and cons. It's much better this way than squeezing everything into one program.
@@getbetterasapwhat part of “I love all 3 softwares” triggered this response?
12 days of beginner Flames: not even a few seconds worth of footage
2 hours of expert PremierPro: one minute long footage with good edits DONE
well compositing and video editing are two different jobs.
when it comes to pro compositing,it is alot more than just using a simple mask or just remove green screen.
The software is made for alot more complicated stuff for the vfx business.
1 hour of profesional DaVinci: 30 minutes long short film done
1 minute of enjoying Nuke: 1.45 hour long feature film VFX composition and approved by James Cameron done ready for theaters
I was on the edge, but the final result at the end of the video was it for me. I'm getting flame for 14 million dollars per week or however expensive it was. Thanks finzar.
It seems like this software is something that some Hollywood editors use, even though it is the least user friendly thing on planet earth and then you ask why not use Davinci/Premiere to edit and they just say "it's just what we've always done". There is no logical reason this should be used, in my opinion.
If there's an easier and more efficient way people will take it. In the hands of a master editor, this software is probably better and more customizable than competitors (just my thoughts)
Just like Pro Tools. It’s a crap software
Avid media composer is the same way. It is a piece of crud software we use in TV. Its because TV is filled with old editors who dont wanna switch
@@TwoTwoFourSixAbleton is better.
@@knight808. Not for mixing
the funny thing is, as a flame artist (we are definetely not editors, maybe Online editors but its not scene assembly etc) doing anything I do in flame would be absolutely impossible in Premiere and I constantly am in the same pain you are in right now when using creativecloud apps because its cumbersome and bad quality.
We live in a different environment where editors dont export final "edits" its all split up into tasks because each task is so heavy
What? Are you seriously comparing Flame to Pr? Pr is a general editing tool, Flame is for VFX.
If anything, then you can compare Flame to After Effects, and in that case After Effects is better.
I've been working in studios my whole life, and I've been using Nuke, AE and Flame, and if you're a solo artist, then go with AE for VFX. If you're in a team, get Nuke. If you're stupid - get Flame.
It's very suspicious how everyone commenting positively about it like you are never ever make an effort to give an example of how Flame is supposedly superior. I'm guessing the "doing anything I do in flame would be absolutely impossible in primere" is hyperbole, since that's unlikely to be true for such obvious reasons (are you also going to try to get me to believe that the earth is flat? 😂).
@@getbetterasap this comment made me sad to read, I use all 3 softwares for years and although each one has its benefits…when I’m running solo, Flame is my best friend. I’ve had to do heavy lifting on shots for a job and seriously deliver 1800 versions for global markets, I could never have achieved this in Nuke or AE.
I agree, nuke is good on a multi shot multi person team (films, episodic)
AE although good and possibly great at VFX in the right hands is more my graphic design based animation tool.
However, if I need to smash out 100s of versions of commercials and do beauty work, background replacements, adding fire or smoke or water…flame is my tool. It can go so damn fast in the right hands, and often my rooms full of clients are left dazzled by the speed of it. I just love it, so not sure why you feel it’s stupid?
@@awesomeferret say you know nothing about comp without saying it
@@awesomeferret wtf. its a totally different world to Premiere it doesnt even compare at ALL. its not made for editing so yea it can do a LOT of stuff that premiere can not do, conform, proper node based compositing, colormanagement, connected Conform,. hell even basics like manual stabilisation of shots and not the click and pray premiere warp crap... actual animation curves for proper timewarps and sooooo much more. Nuke is a better comp tool, avid is a better editor, resolve is better at color but Flame is better than all combined in Finishing and heavy VFX workflows ... if you dont feel like you are hitting a wall in premiere/ae then you probably dont need it
Bro is gonna rule the next generation with his editing skills.BTW I'm impressed with your editing skills FR
@ArianneKirylo part 3:
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I have the same
I once had an internship at a German TV channel.
They were using Avid for just about everything.
Only knowing Premiere and a bit of Davinci beforehand, this video is precisely what I felt like.
AVID and their ancient Programs... Ughh.
Because it is apparently still used a Lot in TV-Studios we had to learn & to edit with it in school.
I'm so glad that it was only in our first year and I could switch back to Premiere/Resolve afterwards. 😂
K
I learnt Avid, it's scarily stable compared to Premiere. It's not that massively dissimilar, just you can't just ingest any old file. But it makes it super stable...it's dodgy files that would kill Premiere.
But Flame/Nuke are just totally different, like trying to build meccano with Lego You CAN do it, but it's painful.
Avid is super simple. Flame is more like an VFX tool but not a good one.
I was in the same position as you, the only difference being it's my current job as well (video editor on a TV channel). When I was just hired we were still using avid for video editing. Had a bit of a learning curve since I use davinci resolve for my personal videos, and hadn't touched premiere pro for about 2-3 years at that point. Avid is fine (the program has its quirks but it's manageable), but the thing that annoyed me the most was the lack of GPU acceleration support. Every time I imported or exported something I had to wait for a while, which slowed down my work. Eventually we switched to premiere pro and that significantly sped up everything. Then I also started bringing my notebook in (and remembered how to use premiere pro) since I'm not the only video editor at my workplace. Life's good now.
i can't believe Finn is having trouble with an editing software
Its not a Editing software thats the problem :D
@@FinnJaeger1337we know
This video made me remember my days learning flame 20 years ago. back in the day internet database was new and there weren't any tutorials anywhere. only a handful of guys were able to master flame because of the steep learning curve. It's an amazing software once you figure out how to use it. nothings else comes close.
Just a hardcopy manual that had " this button , yes it exists"
I appreciate that at the end, you came out of it with a greater appreciation for visual effects artists, instead of writing off the tool altogether. Pretty fun video. You should try tackling nuke next 😈
So this is why movies take so long to come out... 😭💀
I'm from Autodesk, and we have this "If you can't own a mac then you broke af" policy to let people know they can't afford our software..
I own a Mac and all Apple products and still broke af. 😂
Hey Finzar,
You continue to be my favorite editor, never failing to impress me. I used to struggle with learning, feeling like I was alone in the challenge. However, your latest video has shown me your dedication and honesty in the learning process. It’s incredibly inspiring!
I’ve only been learning Premiere Pro for a few weeks and was on the verge of giving up. But after discovering your tutorials, my perspective changed completely. Editing isn’t as daunting when you have a great teacher, and your guidance has been a game-changer for me. You saved me.
I now watch your videos from start to finish, captivated by every second. Your content is not just informative but also incredibly engaging. I appreciate your hard work and dedication so much. You’ve reignited my passion for editing, and I’m excited about creating great videos in the future. I believe in myself, thanks to you.
You’ve done an amazing job, and I’m truly grateful. Thank you, Finzar!
no blame but this feels plagarised
Honestly, nodes in Davinci Resolve are too great, at least greater 😂
Awesome video! I’m still struggling with Premiere Pro editing my videos 😂 I just learnt you can save multiple effects as a single preset if you highlight them and save… the grind is real
Most of the industry has moved over to Nuke for compositing. Flame is is extremely outdated. Flame used to be a full hardware/software system costing an insane amount of money. But at that time it was the only way to actually have somewhat realtime playback.
You are correct.
@@robertruffo2134 thank you. I worked as a Nuke Compositor at Weta Digital in the past.
It was one of the first high end digital compositing tool in the mid 90's mainly use for music video or commercial VFX on TV, as you sayed it's half dedicated hardware with a dedicated software, it was not made for editing like AVID or now Da Vinci resolve those last one was also a dedicated hardware and proprietary solution for digital Color grading in the mid 90's too, today it's the acquisition of Black Magic Design, it's an all in one package almost free and the payed version give you acces to HDR and dolby vision export it was very affordable if you buy one of there Black Magic design hardware solution or camera.
you should do the same with resolve next time and learn not just editing but also learn fusion, color page and fairlight to make a video.
Bro I thought I was watching a tutorial and yet this is unexpectedly the hardest movie this man has ever dropped. Hollywood ain’t ready for this one 🔥
No thanks. I'll stick to Davinci.
Me too
What a creativity ! I like your videos.
I learned Nuke along with Maya as part of my bachelor's course. The frustration brings back memories 😭
Knowing how well you can edit, I love the simplicity but effective editing, scriptwriting, and overall filmkaing you do Fin. Keep it up big man🙏
RECENTLY CAME ACROSS THIS CHANNEL TO LEARN BUT HE NEVER FAILS TO MAKE ME LAUGH EVERY NOW AND THEN. AMAZING WORK BROTHER. KEEP GOING, WISHING U HUGE SUCCESS AND GOOD HEALTH
I've used FLAME within my production company for a year now. I absolutely love it. We've been running it on a MAC. I wish they would port it to a PC-maybe in the future. Good video, by the way.
Care to explain why you love this unintuitive mess?
'I wish they would port it to a PC'. Well, there's something I have never heard before.
Is it actually really hard or does it take awhile to learn
@@AyushBakshi Sure, this gave me a challenge. I'm fluent in Premiere and gave Resolve a shot (I didn't care for it, really). FLAME is a BEAST. It has a steep learning curve, but the outcome is really worth it... Everything is integrated into this system...
@@bellvuehillapart9782@bellvuehillapart9782 Yeah, why? Because my PC is more advanced than the MacBook...lol Don't get me wrong..the Macbook still kicks ass, but the screen is too tiny...porting to a bigger screen there are latency issues.
Morrel of the story is dont complain about premier, Photoshop and after effects and just stick to them. Thank you FIN for traveling into where no efitor should go.
or if ya dead broke then get davinci resolve
Well if you ever want “Hollywood level” keying… you’re going to have to learn nodes at some point. i.e. Fusion or Nuke
Thank God someone uploaded a challenge video where they admitted to failure. Even tho the flame edit didn't work out, I still enjoyed watching and mad respect for accepting to quit and posting it publicly lol
Love your videos Fin, You inspired me to edit and create videos and I am extremely thankful, I'm also saving up for your editing course. Keep up the amazing work man! Mad respect.
would be really cool if you do a followup to this where you bring on a professional flame editor and really find out what the *point* of this software is over other NLEs - to the untrained eye and seeing your experience, the value prospect is nonexistent - even if this was *free* software, let alone that pricetag - so there's got to be something juicy that would direct a customer base to keep using it over software thats far more intuitive, performant, and affordable
this is probably your best video, but its hard to tell because all of your videos are so good
Respect for Premier Pro and Editors using it After this video 📈📈
Awesome/Informative/Entertaining video as usual. Just want to say, your videos and editing skills inspired me to learn how to do just that! Started a channel and everything from that so thank you Finzar.
Flame software and hardware in the 2000’s costed over 100k usd . It’s an online tool that combines vfx , edit , grading and more. And it was realtime or near realtime. No one uses Flame for editing short form or long form. Nowadays Resolve studio got pretty much all of that for 300 usd
Good stuff as always Fin! Btw, I'd suggest you get that case off your macbook as it will ruin your display's hinge in the future
This is also something ppl need to realize... Editing and vfx are different departments.. Many vfx artist aren't storytellers they are great at enhancing story.... We have been spoiled with software making the average Joe good at hiding not being a pro but the pros are a different breed. They get the pay scale becuase they did spend the time and effort to master these techniques that makes good content for UA-cam video fail stories.
Starting of the happiness: 0:00, end of the happiness: 14:18
This may be the BEST premier pro ad I’ve seen lol
YOU PAY HOW MUCH FOR ADOBE SUITE!? I do the student 20 bucks a month and then have them refund me because half the time an update will brick a project.
You are based and not everyone can be like that 😂
14:19 is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Btw the video starts here: 0:00 for those wondering
Even the successful experienced their fails, and this is why you'll succeed. Good on ya for giving it a go Fin, proud of ya 🙂
I'd seen Flame in commercial shootings but would've never expected to see it here - all in all, well done!
Another unique concept video from FINZAR🔥That's why it's worth it to subscribe and wait for your videos 💖
Where are these 3d animation skills suddenly coming from?? Fin is evolving 😮🎉
This Ad for premiere pro is pretty sick Finzar!!!
I got a photoshop ad watching this
Make a preset pack for Flame! Then we all will be able to use it 😂👍
😂😂👏
I love how you successfully edited videos in Minecraft, but not with this ultra-premium software
Not a Flame user but if something is used on Hollywood level its not for common people and editors like us and subscription also tells it (indirectly) flame is know for being 100% stable non crashy software with good specs, every software that Hollywood uses has nodes, Maya has nodes, Nuke has nodes Resolve's color pannel has nodes, Mari Has nodes, nodes are the oy answer too the professional and flexible level work and yes as some who uses nodes 90 hours a week in nuke nodes are far more powerful easy than layers and way more organized. Nodes moght have steep learning curve but once understand the logic you are never ever gonna love layers trust me
non crashy ... well, thats not so true,it does and its painfull when it happens
You could make like an editing competition but only for Flame. We’d all get the free trial and see what we can make
i appreciate the b roll fin , and your house looking like a home sweet home, hope youre doing great, happy for you king!
« Nuke, another popular 3D software » that’s all i needed to hear to straight up close that video.
thank you, i will waste no more time on this vidéo
PS : for those that actually once watched a tutorial on Nuke, After effects also has a 3D space, an can also import 3D objects.
You know what software is also widely used in the Hollywood industry, also has a node based compositor and also is an editing, compositing, color corection and audio mixing software all on one?
DaVinci Resolve! YES, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THE FREE SOFTWARE DOES BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT FLAME DOES, JUST MORE USER FRIENDLY AND AGAIN... FOR F R E E!
I started learning about video editing in premiere pro last week, fin was the best teacher for me in premiere pro.
I really enjoy your editing but also the effort you put in on this video (such as the additional B roll and your sense of humor Finzar). Great video!
Love Flame and it's actually performing way better than Adobe Software in my experience. But it has a step learning curve at the beginning and does things quite differentl than the Adobe software, So just starting without an instructor or doing the baseline tutorials, you will hit a wall pretty fast like in this video.
iRONY : He is Using Flames But This Video is Edited in Premiere!!!🤣
If you cant figure that out, NO WAY will I ever try. I so wish you had a course on Davinci Resolve.
He is back with a banger! ❤
THIS IS THE GREATEST AND BEST EDITING VIDEO OF ALL TIME.
Or at least, a tribute.
*ROCK* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Babe Wake up, Finzar uploaded
Idiots admire complexitiy, Geniuses admire simplicity. - Sun Tzu I think
Haha quality video man. Engaged throughout. Subbed
I’m so glad I didn’t get to use Flame for my jobs yet. It was torture to use this at school lol
I fell in love with Adobe pp after this, lmao well done 👏💯
adobe *pp*
yo, adobe what now?
Nodes are cool once you've mastered them because of its versatility. I used Blender in the past so I am used to them when I touched DaVinci
Lesson learned: Don't invest in Autodesk products if you're not Hollywood or a triple A game studio
that’s interesting, i only know autodesk mainly as a construction field software such as BIM, Revit etc
Flame is literally flaming 🔥🔥🔥
I remember while studying at BU NCCA, back in 2003, there was much talk in the industry about the need for "Inferno Artists".
Apparently Inferno was Flame's big brother (I think the order was Combustion / Flint / Flame / Inferno).
We were learning Combustion and Softimage XSI. The pay for an Inferno Artist was ridiculus back then, but the only way to learn it, was from another artist at a big production company.
That said I believe this was before Nuke became the industry standard in the UK, but I could be wrong as I was studying Computer Animation, not VFX.
bro the editing is sickkkkk
I am learning flame currently at a post house, I feel your pain!!!! It's so unintuitive
love these type of vids !!
Flame was developed in the 90s, along with its high end version Inferno, to work on tv commercials and movies. General purpose computers were nowhere near what it could do. The closest competitor was Quantel Henry and Domino(but they were lacking tools that Flame had). In the hands of an experienced Flame artist, problems are solved in near real time so it suits a client supervised environment. Aftereffects, while pretty good at compositing and motion graphics, falls apart when working on complex composites. Nuke is the preferred software for unsupervised CGI VFX composites(there's no way you would use Nuke with a client breathing down your neck). So Flame has its place....But it's very expensive and not many artists know how to use it.
What’s the point of something being so expensive and uselessly not user friendly? I still do not get it.. like does it have its price tag because of who used it? How is this justified because I’m genuinely baffled and confused
It probably has a niche feature set that makes certain things really easy for Flame masters; things that even masters of other programs would struggle to do as quickly/as well in their preferred software
Ah Flame the stuff of nightmares.
Back in the day I used to use Smoke (flames little brother)
It's very much a gentlemens club when it comes to this community within the film and post industry.
Very little community support your own your lonesome for flame.
Back then Smoke and Flame was only available on specialist hardware to run which costs into 100k+ it's bonkers when simplicity is the key.
One thing to grasp is this software is based around the gestures movement to access those menus.
Nodes is by far the most powerful over layer based.
Flame is used in commercial mainly and sometimes in film.
I wouldn't edit it on it. It's clunky to do so. So the best workflow is giving to the operator a XML / edl file of the edit for them to build and work the 2nd phase which would have been VFX and maybe grade.
I'm actually surprised to hear that it's only available for Mac.
Normally the favourite would have been Linux or windows as the OS of choice.
Well-done for trying at least you tasted the forbidden fruit and felt it's sting.
If you understand nodes then that side would easily translate over to nuke / fusion / Davinci etc
Amazing comment! Thank you for taking the time to write this. Would love to ACTUALLY learn nodes sometime, you’re totally right there.
Love your presets
the tutorial thing where people just say "okay do this and this and this" without really explaining anything and they probably also will mumble some random shit about that doesnt pertain to the videos topic too like i totally get that. that was my experience with cinema 4d. tutorials on here suck for that and it seems like people are gatekeeping their knowledge about it even IF there's a "tutorial". thats why i love the blender community so much because everyone is so helpful.
Imagine finzar's growth if he became consistent 4 videos in month
Flame was mainly used for VFX, but Nuke is more prevalent in the industry.
Next video, try Avid for editing, cause that's the industry standard.
So this is the reason why Hollywood doesn't produce good movies anymore? Or takes ages? Or takes ages to produce poopoo? Have my like good sir.
7:36 got to me. I felt your pain and brief satisfaction of success, bro😂
yeah this video was flames🔥🍻
yooo efs i love your vids
Your storytelling is just🔥, burst out laughing 😂😂😂🤣
And people say Ae Is Complex 💀
genuinely- who says that?
I would say to them , try houdini
You are a great editor the music were over the top good video
Skill Issue, He said he spent 2 weeks making the green screen, but considering how much fun he had, going to different places and recording this parody, I bet he didn't even spend 24 hours working on this program.
One the most entertaining video editor out there fr 😂✔ really dope video bro!
NOO! Flame is not the most expensive ... Nuke Studio is more expensive. €5,249/yr . you should make a video on that
that would be hilarious :)
I frickin love Jack black, he is the goat, I’m so glad you used that song for the video, that’s so awesome
Nuke studio is more expensive than Flame smh
Finzar is actually incapable of missing. Even a challenge failed is a W video 🔥
Why does flame's logo looks like Fortnite's logo?
And why does it look like fusions
hey finzar, just wanted to say can you make more videos like undercover editing...showing the entire process of getting a client, creating a portfolio and stuff that series is really inspiring