I remember scoring this for Oscar in real time but the more I watch this fight the more I was lying to myself. Whitaker definitely did not lose this fight.
@Alberto Rod No, you win rounds by being EFFECTIVELY aggressive, which Oscar wasn't half the time. If you miss as much as he did, it really shouldn't matter how much you charge at a guy.
@@giovannyfernandogonzalez5517 Defensive movements are part of what's supposed to be scored in the event of hits not landing, so yes (which is in a rare case scenario but works with someone like Sweet Pea). Sweet Pea made him miss a lot and was able to return with his own, even if they weren't power shots. That's how you win rounds.
Greatness recognizes Greatness.... Two Legendary Boxing Hall Famers 🏆 Congratulations to Oscar De La Hoya. Excellent Performance by both Men However. Much Respect to Whitaker RIP Champ
I remember this fight. Jim Lampley was riding Oscar's jock hard. The crowd was going crazy over whatever Oscar threw. Oscar was raising his hands to try to sway the judges but I thought the fight should've went to Sweet P... Just my 2¢
I felt too many of De La Hoya's punches were lunging, where as Pernell 'sat down' on his punches more, For the smaller/older guy this illustrates his defensive edge. I do feel it was close though. At Welter Whitaker was oft the smaller man, this served to exaggerate his defensive counter punching style. I thought Pernell edged it tho. The scorecards were way off. As Joe Cortez has said the position of the judges needs to be higher.
Ah this was the fight with which the "meme before there were memes" of Jim Lampley's cheerleading for De La Hoya was in full force, giving him credit for shots that didn't land, and reaching the point of climax whenever Oscar threw a combination. Whitaker won this fight, and Oscar tried to work the crowd by throwing a combination that missed and then putting his arm up to the pro DLH crowd as if he'd landed everything and won the round. But Pernell clearly won this fight, and was robbed again, there's a reason DLH didn't give him a rematch. Whitaker was right when he said Oscar wasn't really gonna give him a rematch.
Please, see this fight in slow motion. There're a LOT less punches landed than what compubox counted (or what ANY of the commentators said). Yet, I still had Oscar winning more rounds than Pernell. Oscar clearly won 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 12. (They landed the same amount of punches in round 7. But Oscar landed right hands over Pernell's jab). Question: Why the cut on DLH was not a problem for DLH if he was cut as early as in the 3rd round? Why did the cut close completely? Because Pernell did not landed his Left hand at all. Again, see it in slow motion. There were many rounds where Pernell only landed jabs, and did not landed one single right hook in the whole fight. Close match. Yes. But DLH won it.
Oscar never had 1 rematch his whole career even when he got robbed agains Trinidad he didn't seek a rematch. He fought the best and then moved on to who ever the next best guy was. He didn't win all his big fights but he might have the best resume of fighting other great fighters in boxing history. Chaves, Quarttey, Tito, Vargas, Sweet Pea, Mayweather, Pacquio, Hopkins..thats a murders row right there.
What in the world were these judges watching?!?!?!?!?!?! UNANIMOUS DECISION?!?!?!?!?!? No way did Oscar win by that wide of a margin. His own corner don’t even believe that.
I loved the way dela hoya was holding the neck of whitiker but the moment the rolls were reversed he immediately shouts off the neck, the crowd was against whitiker from the beginning
The only thing that made this fight controversial was Sweet Pea Whining. A post fight article by RING Magazine showed that the majority of sports/boxing publications has an Oscar win.
im an old millenial guy but im a big fan of pernell whitaker by watching all his previous fights this prove that he one of the greats and he's my fav legendary fighter of all no body will be like him.. if he only still alive i want to meet pernell and have some pics autographs of him rip sweetpea..
Lol, he was robbed. Landed 100 more punches, made oscar look like a tool with his defence and knocked him down. all out of his prime addicted to coke and a weight class too high.@@coymatlock8711
My heart wants to call this a robbery. I won't do that because it was a close fight, but I will say that I've scored it several times and I've never found 7 rounds to give to Oscar. Neither did the journalists who covered it live, because they were polled after the fight: 11 had Oscar winning, 14 had Whitaker winning. But that aside, there is no bigger testament to Whitaker's greatness than the fact that at his age, with drug problems, coming off four subpar performances (Rivera x2, Hurtado, Gary Jacobs) and clearly past his prime years, all while fighting a naturally much bigger fighter, Pernell still possibly beat a young Oscar de la Hoya. That's how great this guy was. Thank god for UA-cam, we can't let the new generation of boxing fans forget someone like this.
Whitaker make Oscar look foolish so much in the fight, he make the fast, compact punching De La Hoya miss badly at times. Easy to see Oscar frustrated with his fist pumps after throwing at end of round y he try to push Whitaker when he crouched low at end of fight.
@Tomi Igo dude what fight were you watching Oscar did not win that fight who cares if he head butted him still doesn't change the fact Oscar got schooled
How many rounds did Oscar know he lost, attempt to steal in the last 10 seconds, and then go to the corner hands raised, obviously to persuade judges further. He knew what was up
RIP Pete RIP Pern jr. I remember this fight so well. Sweet pea first time in Vegas. I swear he was as funny on streets as he was in the ring. RIP CHAMP
38:57 tell tale signs the fix was in !!! 85 power punches ? Lampley don’t want to acknowledge Whittaker... Roy said it best You don’t land them shots on Whittaker.
In scoring a fight, you should defer to the data first. Whitaker connected on 232 of 582 total punches or 40%; De La Hoya connected on 191 of 556 or 34%. It was a close fight, but Pernell dictated and maintained the pace throughout the fight-a subjective opinion substantiated by the punch stats. Considering the point deduction for the incidental butt, I had Whitaker winning this bout.
He probably did win but it wasn’t convincing. Pernell didn’t come in with the right mind state and boxing was ready 2 saddle up 2 a new cash cow. Pernell could’ve stopped DeLaHoya had he been properly focused.
@Pancho Sánchez Hey Poncho! Many viewed the outcome quite differently. As for dancing like a clown, whitacher is considered by boxing historians as one of the greatest defensive boxers of all times!!
Damn I understand Larry wanting more action and more punches being thrown but damn he not complain during the entire fight. It’s not like he had never covered a Whitaker fight before
Just watch the fight w Chavez I was young watching this I didn't understand boxing as much as I do now and his style is def text book he wasn't scared to get hit and give the punch it was a show to him he wasn't scared to give you excitement. Damn he need way more credit.
Cat like Reflexes Sweets was one of the best modern day boxers should study him very closely this fight had to go down I remember watching this fight with my step father in I was a golden boy fan but as I got older I learned toAppreciate Pernell Whitaker for all of his style and grace true Professional RIP sweet pea
@@aldinewestfield5821 ????? Whitaker EASILY outclassed Mr. 87-0(@the time)!!! You're definitely in the minority. Most Mexicans even think Sweet Pea won! #RIPSWEETPEA
All three judges had it for Oscar and so did the HBO unofficial judge. ( and he gave Whittaker round 5, watch it again, that was a clear round for Oscar)
No..I disagree. I take the Kellerman approach to scoring a round; at the end of the round, ask yourself who would you rather have been in that round? You see, when we take the logic of "well yes, he landed harder shots, but the other guy outboxed him, so he still lost the round", then you need to follow that to its logical endpoint. This logic would indicate you shouldn't award a 10/8 round for a knockdown, if the individual who was knocked down was outboxing the entirety of the round right before the knockdown. In other words, hard shots do matter; damage matters; who supplied the damage matters. If two men had guns and were shooting at each other from close range, one guy has a .22 and the other a .357; it doesn't matter how many times the guy with the .22 hits the other, nor how many times the .357 misses...not when the .357 finally lands and blows an entire hand or arm off.
Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather. Not 1 but 2 in our lifetime that boxed having talent that was gifted from above. And the media in this country didn't like them. This fight should have been a draw. Oscar was just to strong on the inside for Whitaker to be effective but the scores were ridiculous. Whitaker's body shots were hurting Oscar but nobody says anything.
No way oscar won by Unan 😂😂 and it shouldve been way closer no way he lost by 5 or 6 smh maybe by 2 if anything. Honestly the headbutt was bs, but oscar fought good and a great win for him, and we see that pernell was really one of the greatest being 33 vs a 24 year old oscar. Boxing prime isn’t usually past 32-33 but he was still skilled. Both great fighters, just dont agree he won by that much. Close and good fight.
Great great fight! One of the best fight ever. All time great technical battle , in early rounds de la hoya was hitting the air most of the times against one of the best defensive fighter of all time pernall Whitaker, in mid rounds de la hoya started switching stance Whitaker was having a bit of trouble to adjust de la hoya get chances to land some good shots then danced around forced Whitaker to lead and he was having some success countering,in last rounds whittaker started dancing and boxed Oscar around. I think it’s a draw. The rematch never happened by the way, the match maker probably did so to protect de la hoya the hottest star at the time.
50:14 Larry Merchant showing as an old man he's such a novice. Listen to what he tells Roy, and Roy, being an experienced champion tries to tell him it's easier said than done. This is why you shouldn't have a commentator who never laced up gloves. larry ignorance in that conversation shows that the stuff he said in years afterward have no real basis. I'm glad he eventually got called out on his BS. He knows very little about boxing.
I'm sorry i have to disagree with you there, fighters just aren't as entertaining like a commentator, have you heard Sergio mora commentating, he's terrible, Roy was ok, and Lennox Lewis wasn't good either, commentators are very important
@@leopalio2319 other spirts have play bybplay who have at least played the sport, even if not on a pro level. But boxing has guys who have never fought. And im not saying EVERY fighter would make a good commentator, but some would. And all of them are very insightful.
Pernell Whitaker only lost one fight and that was to Felix Trinidad, and he had to be a crackhead for that to be possible. Actually even if he wasn't he would've just got robbed again, nevermind
Arguably the greatest performance by Whitaker hands down....he beat him cleanly the problem was that Whitaker was already starting to dabble in drugs...but His my number 1 in my opinion that's the guy I admire
racism in boxing: in that very same year with same ref Evander Holyfield accidentally headbuts tyson (before Tyson bit his ear) the ref mills lane doesn't deduct a point for Holyfield's head but, yet he deduct Whitaker for his headbut against "the golden boy"
He said on hbo that he did not want to give,Sweet p a rematch because he was too awkward?? What the fu**????.that was a first to me!! weak (a** excuse) sweet p won 115-113
pernell didnt go their to win the fight, he went there to survive the fight, u cant award any fighter with a win with that approach, not on a championship fight
Even Whitaker’s trainers knew Pernell was losing badly and sweat pea said “then I’ll lose the fight”. So he tried to survive so he could complain after the decision. Lol.
![Pernell WHITAKER 🇺🇸 vs 🇪🇸 Poli DÍAZ [27-07-1991] [Mundial Ligero 🌍] [📺: HBO 🇺🇸]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wye8TFj6MRY/mqdefault.jpg)
The way he swaggered into the ring was brilliant. You can see his confidence in his own ability. RIP to one of the best boxers of all time.
Tomi Igo how bad you gon hate?
@Tomi Igo not every boxer is gonna be like Manny Pacquiao dumbass
@Tomi Igonever disrespect the dead watch how out for ur karma
Whats the song bro
@@lambojeje2750 mo money mo problems
Whitaker survived all these great boxers in the ring then gets mowed down by a goddam car. Just not fair. RIP Buddy.
I no I just said this to my grandpa
Ryan Hanselman true...he was too good to go out like that 😩
Drinking?
Yeah cuz he was 55 years old. Had he been 35, the car would have missed him by 6 inches, just like all his opponents' blows.
It was a hit. It was no accident.
RIP to one of the greatest to ever do it
Agree
CHURCH!
Yes yes
oh man i wanna meet this man so badly and want an autograph and pictures with him but it will never gonna happen 🥲 rip champ
Olm,gh
Whitaker was one the most naturally skilled fighters to enter the ring. His reflexes were top notch. RIP Sweet Pea!
Dwayne Louis right that’s 1 of the best to ever do it right there , rip sweet P
@Tomi Igo i was never into Sweet Pea but I only liked brutal punches. But as I began to appreciate defense, I now see Pea as a fucking genius.
@Tomi Igo if im not a fan of someone, I don't waste my time commenting on their fights or highlights. Makes no sense.
Chad Tep maybe he’s a fan of De La Hoya? 🤷♂️
@@vincegonzalez6804 your words, not his.
Pernell Whitaker was one of my all time favorite boxers and a great person! God bless Pernell Whitaker! Rest In Power champ!
I got in trouble for ordering this fight, Jones vs Toney, and Jones vs Pazienza without my mom's permission lol!! I miss Sweet Pea in the ring!
kingsocobra,,,LMAO..
Fuck yeah
Lol
Well worth it!
Your mom owes you an apology for getting you in trouble for that. Good man
Rest in peace Pernell Whitaker you are the definition of a champion my condolences to the Whitaker family and Friends 💯%🔥🥊💣🥊💣🥊💣🔥🥊💣💣🔥🔥🥊🥊!!!
Respect the LEGEND ✊Pete fought any and everybody..Win or loose,u can't deny his boxing genius, science, and GREATNESS 👊
I remember scoring this for Oscar in real time but the more I watch this fight the more I was lying to myself. Whitaker definitely did not lose this fight.
That's because you're a dumb ass.
@@bennypalomino9341 Or that's because he's not Mexican so isn't biased
Bro Pea did not win this fight. Oscar scored the more crisp impactful punches
Benny Palomino damn bro 😂😂
Real talk I can see why people thought Oscar won he so quick but he was missing a lot close fight but tho sweatpea edged it
De la Hoya was hitting fresh air for most of the fight
You blind? And sweet pea was just back peddling all night laning 3 jabs per rd
@Alberto Rod No, you win rounds by being EFFECTIVELY aggressive, which Oscar wasn't half the time. If you miss as much as he did, it really shouldn't matter how much you charge at a guy.
@@johnd.zephyr2531 oh shouldn't it? What should matter then? The best defensive movements?
@@giovannyfernandogonzalez5517 Defensive movements are part of what's supposed to be scored in the event of hits not landing, so yes (which is in a rare case scenario but works with someone like Sweet Pea). Sweet Pea made him miss a lot and was able to return with his own, even if they weren't power shots. That's how you win rounds.
@@johnd.zephyr2531 no it's not.
Greatness recognizes Greatness.... Two Legendary Boxing Hall Famers 🏆 Congratulations to Oscar De La Hoya. Excellent Performance by both Men However. Much Respect to Whitaker RIP Champ
De La Hoya has my respect. Not only is he a good fighter but also a good sportsman
I remember this fight. Jim Lampley was riding Oscar's jock hard. The crowd was going crazy over whatever Oscar threw. Oscar was raising his hands to try to sway the judges but I thought the fight should've went to Sweet P... Just my 2¢
U know your boxing 🥊 they do that to anybody against a black fighter we know what it is
@@Riqueee24 oh cut that bs 😂 about blakc fighters lmao
@@charlievazquez5124 stfu u know it’s the truth and u don’t know boxing pussy😂😂
@@charlievazquez5124
@@Riqueee24 here we go with the race card , shit lame af 🥱
How would Oscar steal the 4th with a flurry that missed entirely
I Know right?
@Jimmy Garcia he missed completely stfu
Biased announcers biased judges. Larry merchant the only one calling is as it was
Exactly Dlh was hitting air most of the fight
@Christian Salas yeah right he out land dlh in compu box
I remember watching these fights live. Great era of boxing. Lampley's commentary used to bug us quite a bit.
Yeah lampley is a idiot, over zealous on something that wasn't happening in the ring or landing
Lampley was not schooled well in boxing. Believe it or not.
RIP Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker.
I felt too many of De La Hoya's punches were lunging, where as Pernell 'sat down' on his punches more, For the smaller/older guy this illustrates his defensive edge.
I do feel it was close though. At Welter Whitaker was oft the smaller man, this served to exaggerate his defensive counter punching style.
I thought Pernell edged it tho. The scorecards were way off. As Joe Cortez has said the position of the judges needs to be higher.
Sweet p was so underrated
Bt whittiker at his age was invincible and simply amazing
Ah this was the fight with which the "meme before there were memes" of Jim Lampley's cheerleading for De La Hoya was in full force, giving him credit for shots that didn't land, and reaching the point of climax whenever Oscar threw a combination.
Whitaker won this fight, and Oscar tried to work the crowd by throwing a combination that missed and then putting his arm up to the pro DLH crowd as if he'd landed everything and won the round.
But Pernell clearly won this fight, and was robbed again, there's a reason DLH didn't give him a rematch.
Whitaker was right when he said Oscar wasn't really gonna give him a rematch.
Please, see this fight in slow motion. There're a LOT less punches landed than what compubox counted (or what ANY of the commentators said). Yet, I still had Oscar winning more rounds than Pernell. Oscar clearly won 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 12. (They landed the same amount of punches in round 7. But Oscar landed right hands over Pernell's jab). Question: Why the cut on DLH was not a problem for DLH if he was cut as early as in the 3rd round? Why did the cut close completely? Because Pernell did not landed his Left hand at all. Again, see it in slow motion. There were many rounds where Pernell only landed jabs, and did not landed one single right hook in the whole fight. Close match. Yes. But DLH won it.
that was so annoying .. at one time they both connected and he just mentioned hoya's shot
Oscar never had 1 rematch his whole career even when he got robbed agains Trinidad he didn't seek a rematch. He fought the best and then moved on to who ever the next best guy was. He didn't win all his big fights but he might have the best resume of fighting other great fighters in boxing history. Chaves, Quarttey, Tito, Vargas, Sweet Pea, Mayweather, Pacquio, Hopkins..thats a murders row right there.
JJGerrard1980 well don’t forget the 2 fights to steroid Shane Mosley
Eduardo Rivera he didn’t win the 2nd round
What in the world were these judges watching?!?!?!?!?!?! UNANIMOUS DECISION?!?!?!?!?!? No way did Oscar win by that wide of a margin. His own corner don’t even believe that.
Purple Reign watch it with no audio and you will have a hard time finding four rounds to give to pernell (May he rest in peace).
I scored it 115-111 but most round were close
I think judges don’t like clowning
I loved the way dela hoya was holding the neck of whitiker but the moment the rolls were reversed he immediately shouts off the neck, the crowd was against whitiker from the beginning
Rip Sweet pea Greatest defensive fighter ever and floyd Both legends.
James Toney is the greatest defensive fighter of all time
The only thing that made this fight controversial was Sweet Pea Whining. A post fight article by RING Magazine showed that the majority of sports/boxing publications has an Oscar win.
Wow...after Covid, this video looks like this is from an entirely different ERA
Thanks for the uploads.
He really said in round 8 it's not a great fight because there smiling at each other🤡
Facts!
im an old millenial guy but im a big fan of pernell whitaker by watching all his previous fights this prove that he one of the greats and he's my fav legendary fighter of all no body will be like him.. if he only still alive i want to meet pernell and have some pics autographs of him rip sweetpea..
Greatest welterweight of all time. Pernell Whitaker. RIP.
Not on this night
Lol, he was robbed. Landed 100 more punches, made oscar look like a tool with his defence and knocked him down. all out of his prime addicted to coke and a weight class too high.@@coymatlock8711
My heart wants to call this a robbery. I won't do that because it was a close fight, but I will say that I've scored it several times and I've never found 7 rounds to give to Oscar. Neither did the journalists who covered it live, because they were polled after the fight: 11 had Oscar winning, 14 had Whitaker winning. But that aside, there is no bigger testament to Whitaker's greatness than the fact that at his age, with drug problems, coming off four subpar performances (Rivera x2, Hurtado, Gary Jacobs) and clearly past his prime years, all while fighting a naturally much bigger fighter, Pernell still possibly beat a young Oscar de la Hoya. That's how great this guy was. Thank god for UA-cam, we can't let the new generation of boxing fans forget someone like this.
Real shit
Larry Merchant thought Whitaker won too
Whitaker make Oscar look foolish so much in the fight, he make the fast, compact punching De La Hoya miss badly at times. Easy to see Oscar frustrated with his fist pumps after throwing at end of round y he try to push Whitaker when he crouched low at end of fight.
@Tomi Igo dude what fight were you watching Oscar did not win that fight who cares if he head butted him still doesn't change the fact Oscar got schooled
Man I dont know but De La Hoya is an all time great
@@aaronbeard3375 he did win that fight lmao you’re clearly only focused on Whittaker lmao 😂😂
Oscar landed more meaningful punches throughout whole fight
@@aaronbeard3375 Whitaker only ran nigga Oscar did the opposite
Whenever they would go back to James Brown it was always a huge disappointment that it wasn’t THEE James Brown🕺🏿
My favorite part is the end of round 4 that guy was funny too.
Whitaker understood controlling distance to another level. He and Roy were dominant at controlling the fight.
How many rounds did Oscar know he lost, attempt to steal in the last 10 seconds, and then go to the corner hands raised, obviously to persuade judges further. He knew what was up
Fact is Oscar won the fight.
Killian Ryan Oscar clearly won the fight, be honest, what rounds did you give pernell?
@@Presidente2004 dick head what fight was you watching aweet pee beat that man
@@glockmarino9015 nope
@@glockmarino9015 Oscar lost
Terrible commentary from them except Roy they jus wanted a all out brawl Pernell controlled the tempo n outlanded Oscar sweet pea got robbed
Lmao.
RIP Pete RIP Pern jr. I remember this fight so well. Sweet pea first time in Vegas. I swear he was as funny on streets as he was in the ring. RIP CHAMP
Beautiful Wonderful sharp outboxing RIP
The fight was a lot closer than the judges scored it
Pernell won that most of Oscars punches missed
I scored it 115-111
You dont win by making your opponent miss you gotta land punches
Matt Real Sweet Pea outpunched him the whole fight
Sweet Pea won it.
Lampley was in a mood that night, god damn
RIP Sweet Pea. You wore your heart on your sleeve like true warrior.
I LOVED PERNELL'S FACE WHEN HE HEARD THE NEW CHAMPION
🤣🤣🤣
38:57 tell tale signs the fix was in !!! 85 power punches ? Lampley don’t want to acknowledge Whittaker... Roy said it best You don’t land them shots on Whittaker.
And at 41:06, Whittaker pulls out of the left hand.
Lots of people land big shots on Whitaker lol. Literally got dropped in the 1st round of his fight before this.
In scoring a fight, you should defer to the data first. Whitaker connected on 232 of 582 total punches or 40%; De La Hoya connected on 191 of 556 or 34%. It was a close fight, but Pernell dictated and maintained the pace throughout the fight-a subjective opinion substantiated by the punch stats. Considering the point deduction for the incidental butt, I had Whitaker winning this bout.
Same I had Whitaker taking this fight but de la Hoya fought a good fight.
He probably did win but it wasn’t convincing. Pernell didn’t come in with the right mind state and boxing was ready 2 saddle up 2 a new cash cow. Pernell could’ve stopped DeLaHoya had he been properly focused.
I definitely believe it was closer than what all the judges had!
@@baghdadwarrior039 At 25:15 what are the commentators talking about🤣 "I thought De La Hoya had it at the end" he missed all 6 punches
@Pancho Sánchez Hey Poncho! Many viewed the outcome quite differently. As for dancing like a clown, whitacher is considered by boxing historians as one of the greatest defensive boxers of all times!!
Damn I understand Larry wanting more action and more punches being thrown but damn he not complain during the entire fight. It’s not like he had never covered a Whitaker fight before
Whittaker’s entrance song made me realize what era and time this fight took place
15:30 Whitaker literally dodge’s death and they say he’s clowning same shit with Ali🤣
I've been trying to score this fight for over 20 years. I'm just gonna call it a draw.
this is literally my exact life experience. thank you for this comment. I feel like I know you.
@@alixcoupet4377 That's golden boy for you
@@deadlyshells6830
Uul
@rustinonthevine!! Brilliant I did the same for fairness but those judges are infamous! LOL
Great Fight; RIP CHAMP 🥊
Just watch the fight w Chavez I was young watching this I didn't understand boxing as much as I do now and his style is def text book he wasn't scared to get hit and give the punch it was a show to him he wasn't scared to give you excitement. Damn he need way more credit.
those 2 scores were ridiculous
You don’t know shit about boxing, it’s not about being a stinker and running around like a bitch
Yup there where ridiculous must of the de la hoya punches was hitting air
Cat like Reflexes Sweets was one of the best modern day boxers should study him very closely this fight had to go down I remember watching this fight with my step father in I was a golden boy fan but as I got older I learned toAppreciate Pernell Whitaker for all of his style and grace true Professional RIP sweet pea
Dam I didn’t realize how fast Oscar used to be
I love sports it help to bring out the rest of you
Much love and respect for you Whittaker.. R.I.H.
Fight was a draw if you're being generous. Sweet p outboxed him. The end. RIP to the legend and one of the greatest ever
Oscar won tho
@@aldinewestfield5821 yea and tim Bradley really manny
@@jimminycricket9622 facts are Whitaker got his ass whoop by Chavez Oscar Tito just like how Pacman beat Bradley
@@aldinewestfield5821 oh don't be silly delahoya or Chavez didn't whoop whitaker and Bradley didn't whoop manny but those guys got the decision
Why do people defend others after they are dead?? I doubt you gave a fuck about this decision before Whitaker died
Pernell def won that fight I remember it like it was yesterday, he got robbed just like the Chavez fight...
And the jose luis ramirez fight
Chavez was the one robbed bitch get your facts right
@@aldinewestfield5821 ????? Whitaker EASILY outclassed Mr. 87-0(@the time)!!! You're definitely in the minority. Most Mexicans even think Sweet Pea won! #RIPSWEETPEA
@@aldinewestfield5821 Stevie Wonder even said Whitaker won
Aldine Westfield Boy gtfo with that shit, Whittaker beat Chavez. Im Mexican and I know Whittaker won that fight.
This was a very close fight and difficult to score,but the fact that all 3 judges had it that wide was a disgrace.
Highway robbery
Should have been ruled a draw but regardless props to Oscar for stepping in the ring with the Great Pernell Whitaker
That referee is one of my favorites.. CMON CMON
All three judges had it for Oscar and so did the HBO unofficial judge. ( and he gave Whittaker round 5, watch it again, that was a clear round for Oscar)
When interview fighters I put my TV on mute.
And you sir are blind oscar hit air most of the fight pernell was robbed
@@raheemsalaam9117 that true Pernell was rob those score card was ridiculous
Oscar definitely landed the harder shots, but Whitaker out boxed him. Whitaker should have gotten the decision.
No..I disagree. I take the Kellerman approach to scoring a round; at the end of the round, ask yourself who would you rather have been in that round? You see, when we take the logic of "well yes, he landed harder shots, but the other guy outboxed him, so he still lost the round", then you need to follow that to its logical endpoint. This logic would indicate you shouldn't award a 10/8 round for a knockdown, if the individual who was knocked down was outboxing the entirety of the round right before the knockdown. In other words, hard shots do matter; damage matters; who supplied the damage matters. If two men had guns and were shooting at each other from close range, one guy has a .22 and the other a .357; it doesn't matter how many times the guy with the .22 hits the other, nor how many times the .357 misses...not when the .357 finally lands and blows an entire hand or arm off.
But Oscar was the one to touch the canvas lol
@@peterjon2758damn good response.
Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather. Not 1 but 2 in our lifetime that boxed having talent that was gifted from above. And the media in this country didn't like them. This fight should have been a draw. Oscar was just to strong on the inside for Whitaker to be effective but the scores were ridiculous. Whitaker's body shots were hurting Oscar but nobody says anything.
I grew up a massive Oscar fan. But 116 110 is Nevada Highway Robbery!
Damn...Oscar got handspeed like Amir Khan yet Pea (RIP) still making him hit empty air.
Unlike con job Khan, De la Renta didn't get knocked out cold every fight he ever lost
@@billymcswain6320 Khan is not a fraction of the fighter that Oscar was PERIOD.
@@mazhussain3470 no shit Sherlock
The only thing Whitaker lacked was the abilitiy to get a good decision.. He was robbed in a few. The Chavez fight was a terrible decision.
... First time I am seeing these boxes box each other....High level of competition for sure...
RIP TO A LEGEND
Thanks for keeping it real
Why say you’re gonna give him a rematch on NATIONAL Television and never give it
@T Hill nah bro floyd is his own fighter in his own right I get wym but still nah
Pernell. YOU A MASTER R.I.P.
So nobody's going to talk about the fact that Roy Jones Jr didn't give any credit to Oscar de La Hoya that was some straight BS biased ass commentary
Oscar had one of the best jabs in boxing but defo in division 💯
No way oscar won by Unan 😂😂 and it shouldve been way closer no way he lost by 5 or 6 smh maybe by 2 if anything. Honestly the headbutt was bs, but oscar fought good and a great win for him, and we see that pernell was really one of the greatest being 33 vs a 24 year old oscar. Boxing prime isn’t usually past 32-33 but he was still skilled. Both great fighters, just dont agree he won by that much. Close and good fight.
F- Jim Lampley. Idgaf how you spell it.God he was soooo bias!! Thank goodness RJJ and Larry Merchant were there to humble his bias! #Wifebeater
I know. Him and Larry merchant were always trying to criticize black fighters.
Dwayne Louis Larry Merchant was biased against Oscar.
Really was he as much bias as larry foul mouth
Lamply beat his wife?
Great great fight! One of the best fight ever. All time great technical battle , in early rounds de la hoya was hitting the air most of the times against one of the best defensive fighter of all time pernall Whitaker, in mid rounds de la hoya started switching stance Whitaker was having a bit of trouble to adjust de la hoya get chances to land some good shots then danced around forced Whitaker to lead and he was having some success countering,in last rounds whittaker started dancing and boxed Oscar around. I think it’s a draw. The rematch never happened by the way, the match maker probably did so to protect de la hoya the hottest star at the time.
@Jimmy Garcia shut up imbecell
50:14 Larry Merchant showing as an old man he's such a novice. Listen to what he tells Roy, and Roy, being an experienced champion tries to tell him it's easier said than done. This is why you shouldn't have a commentator who never laced up gloves. larry ignorance in that conversation shows that the stuff he said in years afterward have no real basis. I'm glad he eventually got called out on his BS. He knows very little about boxing.
I'm sorry i have to disagree with you there, fighters just aren't as entertaining like a commentator, have you heard Sergio mora commentating, he's terrible, Roy was ok, and Lennox Lewis wasn't good either, commentators are very important
@@leopalio2319 other spirts have play bybplay who have at least played the sport, even if not on a pro level. But boxing has guys who have never fought. And im not saying EVERY fighter would make a good commentator, but some would. And all of them are very insightful.
Oscar kicked his ass he landed way more punches that's the point
Withaker clearly got robbed. He stayed getting robbed in the 90s. He’s one of the greatest boxers ever
Oh hell nah cut the bs lmak he ain’t get robbed for shit 😂
@@charlievazquez5124 stop with BS am Mexican & If u see his fights he got robbed he clearly got robbed.
Pernell was robbed point blank
How all sweet pea does is show boat
the only thing I like about De La Hoya is that he fought everybody
Same Pernell.
Pernell Whitaker only lost one fight and that was to Felix Trinidad, and he had to be a crackhead for that to be possible. Actually even if he wasn't he would've just got robbed again, nevermind
Trinidad was younger by many years. That absolutely counts, papa. RIP great champ. 🙏
Love to judge a fight as it happens.
Watched this fight for a 36 year birthday.
Today in 2022 watched it for a third time. Still a nightmare to judge.
Whitaker was robbed. Those judges should be in prison.
No and lol
Two gold medalist in a classic fight 🥊🥊🥊
2nd round lampley says oscar landed straight rights? When?
And what flurry at the end of round 4
@@eugeniorodriguez4445 🤨
@@phoenixrising3404 what cause I said the truth he didn't land none of those punches in that flurry in the end of round 4
Arguably the greatest performance by Whitaker hands down....he beat him cleanly the problem was that Whitaker was already starting to dabble in drugs...but His my number 1 in my opinion that's the guy I admire
racism in boxing: in that very same year with same ref Evander Holyfield accidentally headbuts tyson (before Tyson bit his ear) the ref mills lane doesn't deduct a point for Holyfield's head but, yet he deduct Whitaker for his headbut against "the golden boy"
That doesn't sound like racism that just sounds like a ref not paying attention
Suddenly I'm sleepy during one fight and wide awake for another 👀🤔
Black Mamba........bingo! Somebody gets it
Oscar, lo mejor!
An old Whitaker looked better against a young De la hoya than a young May weather did against an old De LA hoya
LMAO
You believe this??
@@cmoneyno5 you know Mayweather has too many haters. Mayweather clearly outboxed de la hoya.
I love sweet pea but look at his face compared to Mayweathers at the end of the fight.
Bullshit...
Pernell Whittaker was on the end of some shocking decisions.
Said he would give him a rematch....Whitaker vs De La Hoya 2... where'd you go?!?! I gave the fight to Whitaker by 115-113
kingsofcobra ROBBED
didn't see it can't watch gay weather
Oscar didn't give him a rematch because he knew he'd lost the first fight.
He said on hbo that he did not want to give,Sweet p a rematch because he was too awkward?? What the fu**????.that was a first to me!! weak (a** excuse) sweet p won 115-113
Bob Arum said no to the rematch
Lampley doesn’t like Purnell.
He was trying to promote Oscar
pernell didnt go their to win the fight, he went there to survive the fight, u cant award any fighter with a win with that approach, not on a championship fight
Joey joey I agree, pernell didn’t land anything clean and lost by a wide margin on all score cards.
Except Mayweather vs Pac they gave it to Gayweather
You are smoking incredible amounts of crack
“I dont see how whittaker can win this fight throwing 44 punches per round.”
“how many has oscar thrown around”
“well about 40 or 44”
Even Whitaker’s trainers knew Pernell was losing badly and sweat pea said “then I’ll lose the fight”. So he tried to survive so he could complain after the decision. Lol.
Whitaker the only person that truly beat Chavez and they called it a draw. He should have won that fight..
Larry Merchant was really insufferable here
Good fight
De La Hoya landed the better punches in this fight. He landed the ones that really counted. This was the first real loss in Pernell Whitaker's career!
No Jose Luis Ramirez beat him
One of the my favorite boxers ever