Saint said at 1:47:41 that in KR there is supp shortage 1 content before endgame and cautty seemed suprised. Maybe its cuz he makes lobbies as a streamer, but this is completely the case in NA also. Just open up party finder for akkan and see ALL the normal lobbies "lf supp" and all the hard lobbies have 2 supp and say "lf dps"
i just returned to the game for the first time since brel release. i had 3200 hours in one year thats 125 days of gameplay while working 5 days a week. i burnt out hard but coming back and seeing aeromancer slayer and soul eater and elgacia was truly awesome
I wish both you and stoopzz did these more often. You saint and stoopzz should get together sometime and make a podcast together, maybe after loaon? I feel like the 3 of you have best takes.
6 bard main here since release. I personally enjoy playing my bards and never had a "boredom" moment with it. In my experience there was always room to improve and grow as a bard as the game progress. Just like how dps mains have a certain enjoyment with what they do. I always feel satisfaction seeing a "radiant supporter" or performing better and getting acknowledged by randoms saying they had better numbers with me. It sucks not much enjoys it as much as I do T_T. I think supports can be challenging too and needs understanding on how to mid max it for late game contents. I have no issue with how it is right now though and still continue to push my 6 bards as best as I can :)
i remember when we were called Rice Eaters for wanting a reduction in dailies but a few months down the line they were like "you know what ? maybe eating rice isnt so bad after all" xd
The way lost ark is heading I don't think it will have a future at this rate. Next year we have a few promising mmos along with ff14 coming to Consoles
@@hollowknight3050 The direction is improving though. Unless you have been living under a rock, they have addressed a lot of the problems which concerned even the Western audience, such as the amount of time spent in doing dailies and homework raids. None of the MMOs that are coming out next year look promising at least in terms of combat and raid design. Sorry to burst your bubble. As for FF14... moving from Lost Ark to FF14 in terms of combat is like devolving from homo sapiens to an amoeba. There are some pros to playing FF14, in the sense that you can play at your pace, on a single char and the game does not expect anything out of you, but other than that, the combat is so wooden-dick, so bad that it breaks all immersion despite the raids actually being well designed. But no matter how well designed and fun the raids are, if the combat sucks, they suck as well. In Lost Ark, even a badly designed raid like Brel is still great become the combat is great.
@Kalimdor199Menegroth considering I play lost ark everyday since day 1 release ir doesn't take a rocket science that lost ark needs massive improvements. Yeah balance patch is good and updates but everyone is in a agreement that we don't really have much to do at end game. U do chaos, guardian and raids. Most mmos offer more than what I just listed. By no means am I saying lost ark sucks but considering I have over 3k hours and roster 210 I'm pretty sure ik what's the deal with lost ark by now. Addressing problems is fine but there's a difference between Addressing it and implementing it
@Kalimdor199Menegroth also the list of mmos coming is not to ur liking is only ur opinion. The minority never really holds up when it comes to what's better or sucks. Sorry to bust your bubble but just like me alot of people are excited for it and as for ff14 u can't be dense enough to not realize that xbox players that only has xbox for the most part never played ff14. I have since release and still play it. Lost ark currently has 40k while ff14 almost doubles buy both are good games. What happening after thaemine? Are we getting tier 4 still? Will we have permanent content that's not raids? Will we have a different progression system? Will we have better end game. Will we have more to do? Those are the questions the community are asking along with better cosmetics and getting to 1630 for players who don't spend is gonna be a massive pain
Yo, how nice would it be to just hit matchmake for raids and not have to play lobby finder because the content isn't so punishing that you can feasibly clear REPEATABLE CONTENT you matchmake for? That'd be insane. It probably won't happen any time soon because there's probably a lot of little problems with it, but it would be nice to not stress about finding a party to get into. One can dream though. One can dream...
My idea; Every raid should have an easy and a hard mode, with easy mode having similiar, but less rewards (just like Akkan has now). Item-level requirements should be the same though AND remove all "one player fucked up" wipe mechanics from normal mode. Make it so it can be cleared in matchmaking and even with 7 people dead. Hard mode then is similiar to what Raids are now and before you can even go into hard mode, you need to have cleared some kind of tutorial related to that gate (dodge normal patterns for a minute without getting hit, play mechanics by yourself) this would look similiar than the current Tower, just with the raid boss and it's mechanics. As soon as you cleared that, you can do the hard mode raid. If you just cannot clear it, then sorry, you have no justification to do the hard mode but you can still do the normal mode. If a group really wants to prog a hard mode raid, let them be able to turn off this requirement for them so they can enjoy a new raid blind. For public groups you just leave this requirement on.
Could make role queue (dps/support) The queue pops when the game finds 2 supports and 6 dps... You get priority as support role, dps have to wait a bit longer. And it can be MMR based like according to number of clears on x difficulty for x raid, and tries to match you with people with similar exp. Would be really cool, you could have leaderboards and stuff maybe. Would be a good fit because this is actually a PvP game, not PvE... Yes you kill monsters 'together', but the whole game is basically a competition over who is the strongest. And if you on P1, P2 is always the enemy team lol. And Vice Versa.
You're still talking like they actually give a fuck. There are common sense changes they are well aware of that should have implemented years ago that they refuse to do because it might dip into their short term revenue. Every decision they make they ask themselves "how can this make us more money?" instead of "what's good for the long term health of the game?" and this is why Lost Ark is dying slowly and painfully.
@@grantsnyder3250 bro, you can be the best player on the planet and you can still get gatekept... Nobody knows who you are. You can have a build that somebody doesn't like and you can get gatekept. You can have 200 roster level and get gatekept because it's not 250 roster level. Don't have LOS 30? gtfo. etc. etc. etc. And it's annoying, people actually want to play, not sit in lobby. The only way you get to play instantly is if you over-gear the content, fine on mains but alt runs become a pain in the ass. And I can't imagine what it's like for a newer player. Probably takes a newer player an hour to get into an endgame raid... who knows. And maybe it disbands after 2 fails xd back to lobby yaaaaaay. And this is why some sort of matchmaking system (that matches you with people of a similar skill level) would be cool!
Make your own lobby and accept other similar geared people. It’s not hard there’s plenty of shitters to accept. When I read bullshit like this it makes me think people try to join juiced players when they have shit cards and gems and legit want to get carried
1620 & voldis HM will be whale lobbies. you wouldnt get into that content unless you have an entire sheet of lvl 10 gems. so if it helps, I would bet that most people wouldn't be doing HM week 1
I will only ever take the “the devs made the changes that made sense at the time” excuse so far. Playing the game, I recognized numerous red flags that you had to question under what circumstances the devs would actually think things would be a good idea. Things like: 1. The rigid server system that wasn’t set up to adapt to changing player numbers. Do they think the servers will stay full forever? 2. Island content similarly collapsing when the population doesn’t touch it anymore. 3. The entirety of the raid structure discouraging any failure. Things like no redoing gates so you’re stuck if your group fails, no ilvl cap for raiding so people constantly pursue higher parties, instant wipe mechanics at every difficulty, per character lockouts so you’re encouraged to clear many times a week. No shit gatekeeping is so high. Failure is punished so significantly. The game has systems that make you question if the designer played a multiplayer game before. It’s not a lack of foresight, it’s a lack of common sense. That it all lays at the feet of Gold River matters more than any charisma he has.
looking back at this video im starting see theirs no point to fomo once u got ur akkan set u can take ur time honeing unless ur ritch and wanna do highest content possible each time in which case i hope u got deep pockets xD otherwise u can take ur time and get to 1610-1620 when ur rdy afterall content isnt going anywhere unless the game shuts down
Id really love to just MM Sonavel with my Wardancer....but without mana buff its basically unplayable, on my Summoner it barely is and on my Aero i have to change gear sets. You could argue i could make adjustments for each one of them but then again what is the advantage MMing then if i have to go through menus anyways.
@@yzajeldalindin8139 CO Summoner? Cause i can manage to run Oom with a support on that, If the sups uptime lacks a bit. True on FMH i go Nightmare forgot about that since its fairly new.
@@clementguitard6653 Usually 4 Dom 2 Entropy while raiding. I tend to go 2 Dom 2 Entropy 2 Nightmare on Sonavel specifically. Still Run Oom without Sup though.
lol lost ark classic😂😂. To me, the reason wow classic is successful because they fucked up retail beyond recognition. Again, to me, lost ark aged much better than wow did. I would prefer resources to not be wasted on developing lost ark classic.
"it Going in the Right Direction" u guys are so deluded. no fixes for: gatekeeping, boring chaos, boring daily crap, gatekeeping mokokos is so disgusting, there is no place for new players and they dont do anything. why do u lie to ur audience, i think u guys, content creators are the problem, no matter what, you have to be always positive even if the world is on fire. japan lost ark just died na/eu is next
bruh Im a greedy goblin aero drizzle I can't beat anyone on it power passed my scouter in 3 weeks lvl59 1585 i beat a 1600 slayer cruel fightering akkan. Aero needs a buff so bad its not even funny
Saintone gives me strong gold river vibes. He has a weird sort of "charisma" in the way he talks about his points that make it sound really deep and thought out, but everything he says is kinda dumb. This makes him great at explaining things like known facts and organizing ideas and rumors floating around the community, but when he has his own ideas, it's just some Trump politics level shit (both for and against, the IQ drops by about 2million when he's the topic)
What a pathetic strawman :)) Care to give some examples? He pretty much articulates his arguments very well, without delving into unnecessary conversations. He organizes his points very well, as opposed to Cauttyh who speaks in a very messy manner. He is all over the place. He cannot articulate his argument without delving into long stories and descriptions.
Bro I'm sorry but the excuse of it being "impossible to catch up on the west" is just an outright lie, and I know Saintone means well but this just isn't true. It's always the asians, and MAINLY Korean MMOs that have such a huge delay between regions. Korean companies refuse to actually globalize effectively and put their hands on other regions, so they just outsource their game to the richest schmuck that wants to do it. It's not "impossible", they just did it in a way that it won't happen xD. Or do ya'll think Riot's MMO is going to have this delay? Does WoW have this delay? New world etc.
Every single MMORPG that handles distribution and operation of their game via a partner publisher in separate regions have a delay, yes. You listed off a bunch of games that are entirely self-published by the developer globally.
@@Saintone yeah, thats my point, It saddens me that lost ark couldn't be self published. I realize you stated that in this specific context, should have worded myself better
Saint said at 1:47:41 that in KR there is supp shortage 1 content before endgame and cautty seemed suprised. Maybe its cuz he makes lobbies as a streamer, but this is completely the case in NA also. Just open up party finder for akkan and see ALL the normal lobbies "lf supp" and all the hard lobbies have 2 supp and say "lf dps"
i just returned to the game for the first time since brel release. i had 3200 hours in one year thats 125 days of gameplay while working 5 days a week. i burnt out hard but coming back and seeing aeromancer slayer and soul eater and elgacia was truly awesome
Wtf
You played almost 9 hours a day for 365 days o.O
No wonder you burnt out XD
@@raveturkey1996 4,3k since release now xD....
HELL YEA! lost ark podcasts, i love it
I wish both you and stoopzz did these more often. You saint and stoopzz should get together sometime and make a podcast together, maybe after loaon? I feel like the 3 of you have best takes.
This was a great podcast boys. Loved some of the suggestions you guys made hopefully we will at least see some of that in the future
les goo my homie made it again
6 bard main here since release. I personally enjoy playing my bards and never had a "boredom" moment with it. In my experience there was always room to improve and grow as a bard as the game progress. Just like how dps mains have a certain enjoyment with what they do. I always feel satisfaction seeing a "radiant supporter" or performing better and getting acknowledged by randoms saying they had better numbers with me. It sucks not much enjoys it as much as I do T_T. I think supports can be challenging too and needs understanding on how to mid max it for late game contents. I have no issue with how it is right now though and still continue to push my 6 bards as best as I can :)
How to interview by Cauttyh:
Make bad joke, guffaw while still talking, receive blank stare from guest.
Repeat.
ANOTHER BANGERRRR LETS GO
This will make my last drive for moving more entertaining. Thanks Cauttyh👌
i remember when we were called Rice Eaters for wanting a reduction in dailies but a few months down the line they were like "you know what ? maybe eating rice isnt so bad after all" xd
The Knights of the round table of Lost Ark needs to be done. All the Mains. ATK, Saint, Cautthy, Stooopz, Baker & any extras that can fit in.
Im just here to hear the director commentary
CAUTTY - YOU'RE FROM QUEBEC?!
Cool! I'm in Montreal!
Gatekeep will be lost ark doom sorry to see it
The way lost ark is heading I don't think it will have a future at this rate. Next year we have a few promising mmos along with ff14 coming to Consoles
@@hollowknight3050ff14 is boring but yeah we have a few release next year
@@hollowknight3050 The direction is improving though. Unless you have been living under a rock, they have addressed a lot of the problems which concerned even the Western audience, such as the amount of time spent in doing dailies and homework raids.
None of the MMOs that are coming out next year look promising at least in terms of combat and raid design. Sorry to burst your bubble. As for FF14... moving from Lost Ark to FF14 in terms of combat is like devolving from homo sapiens to an amoeba. There are some pros to playing FF14, in the sense that you can play at your pace, on a single char and the game does not expect anything out of you, but other than that, the combat is so wooden-dick, so bad that it breaks all immersion despite the raids actually being well designed. But no matter how well designed and fun the raids are, if the combat sucks, they suck as well. In Lost Ark, even a badly designed raid like Brel is still great become the combat is great.
@Kalimdor199Menegroth considering I play lost ark everyday since day 1 release ir doesn't take a rocket science that lost ark needs massive improvements. Yeah balance patch is good and updates but everyone is in a agreement that we don't really have much to do at end game. U do chaos, guardian and raids. Most mmos offer more than what I just listed. By no means am I saying lost ark sucks but considering I have over 3k hours and roster 210 I'm pretty sure ik what's the deal with lost ark by now. Addressing problems is fine but there's a difference between Addressing it and implementing it
@Kalimdor199Menegroth also the list of mmos coming is not to ur liking is only ur opinion. The minority never really holds up when it comes to what's better or sucks. Sorry to bust your bubble but just like me alot of people are excited for it and as for ff14 u can't be dense enough to not realize that xbox players that only has xbox for the most part never played ff14. I have since release and still play it. Lost ark currently has 40k while ff14 almost doubles buy both are good games. What happening after thaemine? Are we getting tier 4 still? Will we have permanent content that's not raids? Will we have a different progression system? Will we have better end game. Will we have more to do? Those are the questions the community are asking along with better cosmetics and getting to 1630 for players who don't spend is gonna be a massive pain
Holy smokes you got SANE TONY you are huuuuuuuuuuuge
Good lord i remember dofus saint even had a little 2-3 weeks of gaming back into it early this year ! so good good
so much sense of humor, i love it
holy worlds collide with 2 GIGACHADS
Yo, how nice would it be to just hit matchmake for raids and not have to play lobby finder because the content isn't so punishing that you can feasibly clear REPEATABLE CONTENT you matchmake for? That'd be insane. It probably won't happen any time soon because there's probably a lot of little problems with it, but it would be nice to not stress about finding a party to get into. One can dream though. One can dream...
My idea;
Every raid should have an easy and a hard mode, with easy mode having similiar, but less rewards (just like Akkan has now).
Item-level requirements should be the same though AND remove all "one player fucked up" wipe mechanics from normal mode. Make it so it can be cleared in matchmaking and even with 7 people dead.
Hard mode then is similiar to what Raids are now and before you can even go into hard mode, you need to have cleared some kind of tutorial related to that gate (dodge normal patterns for a minute without getting hit, play mechanics by yourself) this would look similiar than the current Tower, just with the raid boss and it's mechanics. As soon as you cleared that, you can do the hard mode raid. If you just cannot clear it, then sorry, you have no justification to do the hard mode but you can still do the normal mode.
If a group really wants to prog a hard mode raid, let them be able to turn off this requirement for them so they can enjoy a new raid blind. For public groups you just leave this requirement on.
Could make role queue (dps/support)
The queue pops when the game finds 2 supports and 6 dps...
You get priority as support role, dps have to wait a bit longer.
And it can be MMR based like according to number of clears on x difficulty for x raid, and tries to match you with people with similar exp.
Would be really cool, you could have leaderboards and stuff maybe. Would be a good fit because this is actually a PvP game, not PvE...
Yes you kill monsters 'together', but the whole game is basically a competition over who is the strongest. And if you on P1, P2 is always the enemy team lol.
And Vice Versa.
You're still talking like they actually give a fuck. There are common sense changes they are well aware of that should have implemented years ago that they refuse to do because it might dip into their short term revenue. Every decision they make they ask themselves "how can this make us more money?" instead of "what's good for the long term health of the game?" and this is why Lost Ark is dying slowly and painfully.
We get it, the raids are too hard for u. everyone who does their homework and studies raids finds groups and enjoys the risk gameplay.
@@grantsnyder3250 bro, you can be the best player on the planet and you can still get gatekept... Nobody knows who you are. You can have a build that somebody doesn't like and you can get gatekept. You can have 200 roster level and get gatekept because it's not 250 roster level. Don't have LOS 30? gtfo. etc. etc. etc.
And it's annoying, people actually want to play, not sit in lobby. The only way you get to play instantly is if you over-gear the content, fine on mains but alt runs become a pain in the ass. And I can't imagine what it's like for a newer player. Probably takes a newer player an hour to get into an endgame raid... who knows. And maybe it disbands after 2 fails xd
back to lobby yaaaaaay.
And this is why some sort of matchmaking system (that matches you with people of a similar skill level) would be cool!
I LOVE THEESE THANK YOU!!!
can we make saint the new director already?
Poggers!
Did they talked about the future of lost ark ? btw nice vid though.
Tactics was one of the best off beat FF games.
i gave up trying to reach 1620 because my main gets rejected on kayangel hard so much I guess voldis wont be different😅
What’s your build
Make your own lobby and accept other similar geared people. It’s not hard there’s plenty of shitters to accept.
When I read bullshit like this it makes me think people try to join juiced players when they have shit cards and gems and legit want to get carried
@@PankyNipsthen no supports join. Because why join a weak lobby when you have the freedom of choosing from 5 other juiced parties
@@PankyNips shitters isn’t the word id use, but it seems that there’s something @acecapis isn’t saying tbh
1620 & voldis HM will be whale lobbies. you wouldnt get into that content unless you have an entire sheet of lvl 10 gems. so if it helps, I would bet that most people wouldn't be doing HM week 1
I will only ever take the “the devs made the changes that made sense at the time” excuse so far. Playing the game, I recognized numerous red flags that you had to question under what circumstances the devs would actually think things would be a good idea. Things like:
1. The rigid server system that wasn’t set up to adapt to changing player numbers. Do they think the servers will stay full forever?
2. Island content similarly collapsing when the population doesn’t touch it anymore.
3. The entirety of the raid structure discouraging any failure. Things like no redoing gates so you’re stuck if your group fails, no ilvl cap for raiding so people constantly pursue higher parties, instant wipe mechanics at every difficulty, per character lockouts so you’re encouraged to clear many times a week. No shit gatekeeping is so high. Failure is punished so significantly.
The game has systems that make you question if the designer played a multiplayer game before. It’s not a lack of foresight, it’s a lack of common sense. That it all lays at the feet of Gold River matters more than any charisma he has.
Love me some Sainty-poo.
C’est quoi ça? 🤣
Loved the podcast
so that's why i bought my sorc equips cheap and at the same time gatekeep hahahaha
Man we need time stamps for such long videos :(
looking back at this video im starting see theirs no point to fomo once u got ur akkan set u can take ur time honeing unless ur ritch and wanna do highest content possible each time in which case i hope u got deep pockets xD otherwise u can take ur time and get to 1610-1620 when ur rdy afterall content isnt going anywhere unless the game shuts down
Id really love to just MM Sonavel with my Wardancer....but without mana buff its basically unplayable, on my Summoner it barely is and on my Aero i have to change gear sets. You could argue i could make adjustments for each one of them but then again what is the advantage MMing then if i have to go through menus anyways.
I MM Sonavel on my summoner just fine. Only problem i have with mana is FMH soul eater.
@@yzajeldalindin8139 CO Summoner? Cause i can manage to run Oom with a support on that, If the sups uptime lacks a bit. True on FMH i go Nightmare forgot about that since its fairly new.
which wd build are you playing
@@clementguitard6653 Usually 4 Dom 2 Entropy while raiding. I tend to go 2 Dom 2 Entropy 2 Nightmare on Sonavel specifically. Still Run Oom without Sup though.
is Saintone using a laptop mic here?
ty ty
lmfao
they completely broke Sorc
So there is 0 reasons to do theamine hard if it gives same rewards as normal? Nice
You can't progress in the new power up system past certain point, unless you clear Hard.
Still it's not like you have to.
@@_Tomon ty. Still not that bad, i can just buy 1 time bus for g4 if i could get to 1630
lol lost ark classic😂😂. To me, the reason wow classic is successful because they fucked up retail beyond recognition. Again, to me, lost ark aged much better than wow did. I would prefer resources to not be wasted on developing lost ark classic.
This game has no future. We all know the reasons why, it's just a matter of waiting it out.
"it Going in the Right Direction" u guys are so deluded.
no fixes for: gatekeeping, boring chaos, boring daily crap, gatekeeping mokokos is so disgusting, there is no place for new players and they dont do anything. why do u lie to ur audience, i think u guys, content creators are the problem, no matter what, you have to be always positive even if the world is on fire.
japan lost ark just died na/eu is next
bruh Im a greedy goblin aero drizzle I can't beat anyone on it power passed my scouter in 3 weeks lvl59 1585 i beat a 1600 slayer cruel fightering akkan. Aero needs a buff so bad its not even funny
Saintone gives me strong gold river vibes. He has a weird sort of "charisma" in the way he talks about his points that make it sound really deep and thought out, but everything he says is kinda dumb. This makes him great at explaining things like known facts and organizing ideas and rumors floating around the community, but when he has his own ideas, it's just some Trump politics level shit (both for and against, the IQ drops by about 2million when he's the topic)
What a pathetic strawman :)) Care to give some examples? He pretty much articulates his arguments very well, without delving into unnecessary conversations. He organizes his points very well, as opposed to Cauttyh who speaks in a very messy manner. He is all over the place. He cannot articulate his argument without delving into long stories and descriptions.
Bro I'm sorry but the excuse of it being "impossible to catch up on the west" is just an outright lie, and I know Saintone means well but this just isn't true.
It's always the asians, and MAINLY Korean MMOs that have such a huge delay between regions. Korean companies refuse to actually globalize effectively and put their hands on other regions, so they just outsource their game to the richest schmuck that wants to do it. It's not "impossible", they just did it in a way that it won't happen xD.
Or do ya'll think Riot's MMO is going to have this delay? Does WoW have this delay? New world etc.
Every single MMORPG that handles distribution and operation of their game via a partner publisher in separate regions have a delay, yes. You listed off a bunch of games that are entirely self-published by the developer globally.
@@Saintone yeah, thats my point, It saddens me that lost ark couldn't be self published.
I realize you stated that in this specific context, should have worded myself better
I dont like you but Im curious what Saint has to say