No. This just doesn't make sense. If the delegate gave him the extra he should have had the extra. And they could fix this rule after this record and not take it away.
what justifies the disqualification to my eyes is that yiheng has an unfair advantage : the option to keep the fifth OR ask for the sixth. If he didn't have the choice and that the fifth one would've been removed anyways, then it should be counted imo.
i completely agree with the WRC decision to keep the original attempt for solve 5. yes the judge lifted the cover early, but by yiheng continuing with the solve he basically accepted that the incident didn’t affect him. a very similar situation happened to me once in clock (judge lifted cover early, i picked up the clock to inspect and solved it) and i didnt ask for an extra because that would have been completely unfair.
i think this was fair. you can't just ask for the extra after you do the solve. ik this is a wr and very important, but the rule does not change for anyone or anything. there's a chance that he wouldn't have asked for an extra if he got a sub 1 average with the original solve 5.
its on a much different scale but it kinda reminds me of the moment from that chiefs game where they did a crazy TD play and it got rolled back bc of an offsides, and the quarterback was like "man that was a dope play and you guys took it away bc of a silly penalty?"
I agree, ‘cause by doing the solve and then asking for a delegate after the solve, it’s basically just getting two chances to do one solve. This is not the judge’s fault.
@@Aerolite_FPS Maybe. But I think they're pretty evenly matched right now. Its just a matter of who gets it first. Zayn has been practicing for the longest time.
Even though im conflicted i think it will be a good ruling in the long run bc having a world record that people are divided on just wouldn’t hit the same. I feel like he’s already so close to getting it it’s only a matter of time
When Yiheng broke the WR I felt bad for Zayn, but now I feel bad for him 😢 They both are amazing, I'm sure they will break sub1 barrier really really soon
Yeah there was just too much stuff happening these past couple of weeks for me to cover everything. Wish I could’ve made a video on Tymon’s 3.66 as well
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Yeah, that doesn't feel right. Even if the judge actually messed up yiheng's solve badly, there's always a non-zero chance that you can WR on that scramble, so actually playing it out feels unfair. Cracked Bo6 avg though
I'm curious about the clip of the "5th" solve though. Jayden Kai Yang's video didn't show that solve (2:05 in your video is his 4th solve, not the 5th, despite your editing could kind of suggest that, but it's actually the 4th one, 0:44 in Jayden's video)
Yeah the actual 5th solve that ended up counting was not recorded. At 1:55 and a couple of other moments I bring it up I just played the 4th one in its place.
It was delegate's fault to give him an extra when he didn't have the right to, but regs let it really clear that nobody should ever get unfair advantage so what they is is tecnicly the right thing to do
i've had this once where i got a scramble that i had already gotten and i just did it to like see if it was actually the same scramble and i did a different solution, but still got a really good time, but i just told a delegate and i got the right scramble this time, which was 2 seconds slower, making me get wpa, but this is ofc a completely different situation, because here i could have just let it go and be like nice now i have an even better avg, but i still had a pr avg lol
In my opinion, Yiheng's record should count. The judge broke the WCA regulations and Yiheng probably was nervous during the solve, so he just went into it anyway.
I think the average being invalidated is the right choice, but Yiheng really is cracked, I mean cubing is really gonna be over like you said in another video.
I think the removal of the record is the correct thing to do. Think about this, if Yiheng did a 0.79 at the 5th solve, would he have asked for an extra to replace it? Of course not. So why did it ask for the extra? Because he's unhappy with the 1.29 or whatever. So it's clear that his intention was to get another chance because he was not happy with the one he did, which is definitely not "innocent". The ruling is the correct move, and the regulation should be modified to be even more specific if needed.
RIP McWorldRecord - This was a really tough call for the WCA. I'm still not sure which side of that fence I'm on but my hat is tipped to those who have to make those tough decisions.
I mean, Yiheng's way to go about it is nothing less id expect from any other kid his age, at 10 I wouldnt have reacted differently, so while its not officially a sub 1 avg, Id still count it unofficially
I can't even fault the judge for lifting the cover early, Yiheng moves his hands towards the box, almost like he was ready to pick up a cube. Especially since this is solve five, and Yiheng and this judge could have established a routine before every solve. "every time he takes a deep breath, then he's ready, so I'll lift it after his breath" sort of thing.
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I think the ruling is fair. If he was a first time competitor or someone who was less experienced, the extra could be argued for since he might not be familiar with the regs. But if I'm not mistaken, something like this has already happened before for him, so he should no the regulations about this. Absolutely should be keep the fifth and not count the extra. WCA does need to do something to minimize incidents like this.
This is kinda similar to another cubing UA-camr I watch were a runner dropped his cube and broke it but didn’t realize it until a little bit into inspection but instead of stopping and getting a delegate he got a delegate after the solve so the solve was kept and he didn’t get an extra
I think it was fair because Yiheng asked for an extra after seeing that it was a bad time. But I think he's gonna get that sub 1 pretty soon. Maybe Zayn gets it first but Yiheng will get it. Thanks for these really nice videos. I have a good time watching them, especially remembering that a six year old is WAY faster than me lol
Personally I think anyone world class (or just breaking records at the continental/national/regional or state level) should just get a delegate or at least an experienced cuber to judge. I understand that it's technically not fair treatment but you don't really see people arguing with a delegate over a 15 sec 3x3 solver for a reason.
I think the ruling was fair, but what I see a lot of is people saying Yiheng is at fault, which I disagree with. If he felt like something outside of his control negatively affected his time, of course he would ask for an extra. The real issue is that the delegate decided to give it to him imo.
I said it once in a previous video and I’ll say it again, I hate cubing in 2024 now. I mean seriously, the chances of getting a wr now is practically impossible for cubers who average above 7 seconds.
One thing I will add. Even if Yiheng was trying to "finesse" the system, he's totally entitled to, anyone can push all the rules inside and out of solving to their limits, and at the top level this is expected and even necessaray. If you could get the record by doing something *within* the rules, would you?
What haha, IT'S NOT OUT OF NOWHERE. His 1.08 had potential to tie the WR on 5th solve (and even better on 4th solve). Since start of 2023 his mean of AO5s is better than Zayn's (1.42 vs 1.44)
I think he just solved it without even thinking about it and then after the solve it occurred to him that he could get this extra solve. I don't think there was anything malicious about what he did, but It was definitely justified in being disqualified. Truth is, if he can get the world record average once, then he can certainly get it again.
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Was the ruling fair? Why or why not? ⬇️
No. This just doesn't make sense. If the delegate gave him the extra he should have had the extra. And they could fix this rule after this record and not take it away.
i agree@@bonthecuber
He got it with the extra that he didnt ask for
imo the delegate should have given a provisional extra instead of just an extra
Yes very fair, it’s unfair to do extra after knowing what the 5 solve would be.
what justifies the disqualification to my eyes is that yiheng has an unfair advantage : the option to keep the fifth OR ask for the sixth. If he didn't have the choice and that the fifth one would've been removed anyways, then it should be counted imo.
i completely agree with the WRC decision to keep the original attempt for solve 5. yes the judge lifted the cover early, but by yiheng continuing with the solve he basically accepted that the incident didn’t affect him. a very similar situation happened to me once in clock (judge lifted cover early, i picked up the clock to inspect and solved it) and i didnt ask for an extra because that would have been completely unfair.
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i think this was fair. you can't just ask for the extra after you do the solve. ik this is a wr and very important, but the rule does not change for anyone or anything. there's a chance that he wouldn't have asked for an extra if he got a sub 1 average with the original solve 5.
its on a much different scale but it kinda reminds me of the moment from that chiefs game where they did a crazy TD play and it got rolled back bc of an offsides, and the quarterback was like "man that was a dope play and you guys took it away bc of a silly penalty?"
I agree, ‘cause by doing the solve and then asking for a delegate after the solve, it’s basically just getting two chances to do one solve. This is not the judge’s fault.
Zayn Must Pull It Off as fast as possible Yiheng Is Crazy Good. (Zayn Got a 1.07 Lately)
I agree #zaynsub1
yup, the 1.07 was held at NYU Winter 2024. His BPA Would've been sub-1, but he choked and got a 1 second solve. He also +2ed a 0.76.
Zayn I feel is still better than Yiheng however give it a few months and Yiheng might be better
@@oscarvelocitymusic #zaynover1
@@Aerolite_FPS Maybe. But I think they're pretty evenly matched right now. Its just a matter of who gets it first. Zayn has been practicing for the longest time.
You can also check the WCA Forum to check the whole discussion on Yiheng's 2x2 (not) WR average.
I've been a referee in a climbing competition and yeah if there is an error it's usual that someone mentionning it too late won't get to retry
rip McWorldRecord
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The WR has been reinstated.
Unknown why, the WCA hasn't posted an explanation. It just suddenly showed up on Yiheng's wca profile, 0.93 and WR.
Even though im conflicted i think it will be a good ruling in the long run bc having a world record that people are divided on just wouldn’t hit the same. I feel like he’s already so close to getting it it’s only a matter of time
Nice video! I was in the middle of making a video about Yiheng’s average and then I found out it was disqualified so I had to scrap the video😂
This is actually great for Yiheng. 0.93 was just so fast. Now he can get a few extra WRs.
i actually did not know this, good thing i was subbed to you
It’s a fair ruling. Any top cuber would know to ask for an extra, but Yiheng exploited it.
When Yiheng broke the WR I felt bad for Zayn, but now I feel bad for him 😢
They both are amazing, I'm sure they will break sub1 barrier really really soon
If you check the wca rankings 2x2 average world records today you will see it’s back in the record is back
I’m surprised you didn’t make a video on yiheng’s sub-4 stackmat average
Yeah there was just too much stuff happening these past couple of weeks for me to cover everything. Wish I could’ve made a video on Tymon’s 3.66 as well
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Yeah, that doesn't feel right. Even if the judge actually messed up yiheng's solve badly, there's always a non-zero chance that you can WR on that scramble, so actually playing it out feels unfair. Cracked Bo6 avg though
I'm curious about the clip of the "5th" solve though. Jayden Kai Yang's video didn't show that solve (2:05 in your video is his 4th solve, not the 5th, despite your editing could kind of suggest that, but it's actually the 4th one, 0:44 in Jayden's video)
Yeah the actual 5th solve that ended up counting was not recorded. At 1:55 and a couple of other moments I bring it up I just played the 4th one in its place.
Always a good vid when you post
It was delegate's fault to give him an extra when he didn't have the right to, but regs let it really clear that nobody should ever get unfair advantage so what they is is tecnicly the right thing to do
i've had this once where i got a scramble that i had already gotten and i just did it to like see if it was actually the same scramble and i did a different solution, but still got a really good time, but i just told a delegate and i got the right scramble this time, which was 2 seconds slower, making me get wpa, but this is ofc a completely different situation, because here i could have just let it go and be like nice now i have an even better avg, but i still had a pr avg lol
In my opinion, Yiheng's record should count. The judge broke the WCA regulations and Yiheng probably was nervous during the solve, so he just went into it anyway.
breaking regulations means you shouldn't keep the record. simple.
@@L1223-abc He didn't, the judge did, so that's why i think it shoud've counted. Just agree to disagree
it shouldn't coutn since it breaks the regulations@@Impixinated
bro was like nah nah nah giv me another solve
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I think the average being invalidated is the right choice, but Yiheng really is cracked, I mean cubing is really gonna be over like you said in another video.
Me casually doing this at home just to see which solve is better
Super sad for Yiheng, but now Zayn has another chance to get the first sub 1
RIP McWorldRecord
@@Philosopher392 😭😭😭
I think the removal of the record is the correct thing to do.
Think about this, if Yiheng did a 0.79 at the 5th solve, would he have asked for an extra to replace it? Of course not.
So why did it ask for the extra? Because he's unhappy with the 1.29 or whatever. So it's clear that his intention was to get another chance because he was not happy with the one he did, which is definitely not "innocent". The ruling is the correct move, and the regulation should be modified to be even more specific if needed.
but if yiheng was rejected before solve ends its dnf he wouldnt risk losing wr by such a trivial thing
RIP McWorldRecord - This was a really tough call for the WCA. I'm still not sure which side of that fence I'm on but my hat is tipped to those who have to make those tough decisions.
i judged 2x2 I said 6 seconds (by accident) instead of 8 seconds. he did the solve, got a bad result, then he asked for a extra, got it, and got pr
I mean, Yiheng's way to go about it is nothing less id expect from any other kid his age, at 10 I wouldnt have reacted differently, so while its not officially a sub 1 avg, Id still count it unofficially
I can't even fault the judge for lifting the cover early, Yiheng moves his hands towards the box, almost like he was ready to pick up a cube. Especially since this is solve five, and Yiheng and this judge could have established a routine before every solve. "every time he takes a deep breath, then he's ready, so I'll lift it after his breath" sort of thing.
dude pay attention the 1.39 wasnt recorded you would know if you WATCHED TO THE END?????
Was watching this vid and didin't expect to see my own name on screen lmao
the 1.01 by zayn was actually in january 2023 not 2022
Yeah I keep getting that one mixed up
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Hey Stu, I just uploaded my first ever cubing video and I was wondering if you could give me your thoughts on what I could improve on and how good the overall video was?
Besides what I mentioned in my comment under your video, I’d say improvement wise, especially during the intro, you have room to make the music louder and then slowly decrease it. Seems counter intuitive but same thing goes for transitions and sound effects, just gives it more weight and makes it feel more life-like. There’s a good in between tho. But yeah, editing’s good and you’ll improve as you go so I’d say just keep trying to make your scripts as compelling and engaging as possible. Good job tho!
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He earned it so much... Sad to have such a controversy behind it. In the end it's true and fair but I cannot imagine how Yiheng is feeling right now
nah zayn earned it.
dayumn sad but Zayn got a chance for the first sub 1. I think its not fair for Yiheng though.
I think the ruling is fair. If he was a first time competitor or someone who was less experienced, the extra could be argued for since he might not be familiar with the regs. But if I'm not mistaken, something like this has already happened before for him, so he should no the regulations about this. Absolutely should be keep the fifth and not count the extra. WCA does need to do something to minimize incidents like this.
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This is kinda similar to another cubing UA-camr I watch were a runner dropped his cube and broke it but didn’t realize it until a little bit into inspection but instead of stopping and getting a delegate he got a delegate after the solve so the solve was kept and he didn’t get an extra
Actually if the delegate deems the cube to have been illegal then an extra probably should have been given in that case.
“ And he drops it by a while 0.8 seconds” 💀
I think it was fair because Yiheng asked for an extra after seeing that it was a bad time. But I think he's gonna get that sub 1 pretty soon. Maybe Zayn gets it first but Yiheng will get it.
Thanks for these really nice videos. I have a good time watching them, especially remembering that a six year old is WAY faster than me lol
Was that footage from my boy Ryan Pilat? Was pretty shocked to see him a video Lol.
I dont think he ment to exploit it but rules are rules
fair enough. didnt know this happened before, but it definitely shouldnt have counted as is
Personally I think anyone world class (or just breaking records at the continental/national/regional or state level) should just get a delegate or at least an experienced cuber to judge. I
understand that it's technically not fair treatment but you don't really see people arguing with a delegate over a 15 sec 3x3 solver for a reason.
Now its even crazier (zayn khanani 0.92)
AND Yiheng again with another 0.93
I think its fair, you should either call it as soon as possible, or do the solve anyways, but you cant ask an extra after that
zyan's drop outta wr was soooooooooooooooo sad, i saw it live too
this exact thing happened with me and i didn't get an extra, but yes ofc my BPA was 3.xx rofl
I feel like it was the right thing to do, removing the extra but i cant help but feel sorry for yiheng, hes only 10
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buddy thought getting a bad solve was a reason for a re solve. I should do this
I knew you would make a video about this! Crazy things happening these cubing days
Also rip mcworldrecord 😢
RIP MCWORLDRECORD ba da ba ba bah I‘m NOT lovin it but I understand the ruling and think it was the right call.
A comp in a McDonald's is actually legendary
I think the ruling was fair, but what I see a lot of is people saying Yiheng is at fault, which I disagree with. If he felt like something outside of his control negatively affected his time, of course he would ask for an extra. The real issue is that the delegate decided to give it to him imo.
brooo damn it really wasent counted
I said it once in a previous video and I’ll say it again, I hate cubing in 2024 now.
I mean seriously, the chances of getting a wr now is practically impossible for cubers who average above 7 seconds.
and whose skill issue is that?
@@tiranito2834 why are you being toxic? what did I ever do to you?
Thats honestly a you problem
he's not being toxic. he's stating the truth. if you're too slow womp womp@@bcubing3
RIP McWorldRecord.... This is so sad😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I guess my reconstruction for it is useless now..sigh
One thing I will add. Even if Yiheng was trying to "finesse" the system, he's totally entitled to, anyone can push all the rules inside and out of solving to their limits, and at the top level this is expected and even necessaray.
If you could get the record by doing something *within* the rules, would you?
What haha, IT'S NOT OUT OF NOWHERE.
His 1.08 had potential to tie the WR on 5th solve (and even better on 4th solve).
Since start of 2023 his mean of AO5s is better than Zayn's (1.42 vs 1.44)
I think he just solved it without even thinking about it and then after the solve it occurred to him that he could get this extra solve. I don't think there was anything malicious about what he did, but It was definitely justified in being disqualified. Truth is, if he can get the world record average once, then he can certainly get it again.
suddenly I'm hungry for fries
I feel bad for yiheng
if yiheng was rejected before solve ends its dnf he wouldnt risk losing wr by such a trivial thing
He 100% deserved to get the extra disqualified, since he finished the solve, it was like having an ao6 with the 2 worst solves eliminated
It doesn't matter. He can get another record. Easily.
RIP MCWORLDRECORD 😢😢😢😢😢💀💀💀💀💀💀
Rip McWorldRecord 😭
"No matter how good you are at something, theres always one asian thats better that you". -- meme
Wow the views are growing while I’m watching this 😂😂
bro zain just broke the 2x2 WR
Yeah I saw that as well as Yiheng’s actual 0.93. Just keeps getting more insane
Are we not gonna talk about that all this happened in a Mac Donald's
RIP MCWORLDRECORDS ( CUBING )
Bro what ? You write final exams for 1 time...
4:45 Yes, I do know that i'm slower than a 6 year old, please stop spamming that at my face
Unfortunately for you… he’s still reminding us in 2025…
non of this matters. he’s going to break the record sooner or later anyway!
fr its sad
yoo
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R.I.P MCworldrecord
R.I.P. McWorldRecord
RIP mdwr i just are a crispy burger and 2xfries
RIP McWR
RIP to Yiheng World Record I feel so sorry for him worked hard and shocked the world and it just gotten taken away from him
well he got back his 0.93 ASR. just 0.01s behind Zayn.
RIP mcworldrecord
This should have been a joke. He is only 10. This would also make him and people more happy. They should keep it
Rip McRecord
Bro it was a mistake leave the kid alone😂😂
RIP MCWORLDRECORD
Ryan pilat clip 😂😂
RIP McWorldrecord
RIP MCWR