Good god, that 1990 experimental. Actually skipped a heartbeat on that one, Absolute pinnacle of sleek futuristic 80s design. Sad we'll never see anything that looks like that again
It looks awesome but if you took a 1990 firebird and shaved 30” off it’s the same car. It was Pontiac inability to be original which caused its downfall
GM is not GM without Pontiac they were dismantled on purpose to bring the USA down. The fella in office at the time said those jobs are not coming back. Funny how TRUMP is now president and the economy did a 180.
@@mt1885 Except those jobs never came back, and more were lost due to automation. The economy is propped up on government subsidies and the average American's life is progressively getting worse. We can't bring the old jobs back, we have to use automation to better ALL Americans not just the top 1% who owns most of the wealth.
@@charlottesimss9853 Not lost to automation it was due to GLOBAL with open borders and competing with 3rd world countries where the jobs went. TRUMP is putting tarriffs on this and it is working.
Look up 3.8SC swapped Fieros. Super common swap, parts to do so are produced by the private vendors in the awesome Fiero community. They are out of the newer Regals and GTPs from the late 90s and early 00s. Also check out some of the LS swaps, they are also semi-common too!
I use to find fieros parked in the weeds all over the place. People would nearly pay me to get them off their property. Id chop them up and build trikes out of them. Perfect platform for it, in my opinion.
I own a bunch of Pontiac 455 engines, 1970, 360 hp, 1972 455 H.O. among others. GM screwed up when they axed Pontiac, they built so unique machines. 👍👍🏁
@Ultraman's Inspirational Recipes Yea, the old Pontiac V8 engines are getting harder and harder to find, still cool with a 454, also small things like brackets for Pontiac v8s are very rare these days. My 1972 455 H.O. still have the 7f6 heads on it, it came in a black T/A, my dad bought the engine when original owner parted the car out to raise money for college. Been in our family since then. I found the 1970 455 on Craigslist about 45 minutes from me, jumped on it.
@@rickc2102 goodness yes. I love the Chevy SS, Pontiac G8, and Caprice PPV. So much better in terms of overall quality as well as being a driver's car.
GM should bring back the Fiero as an all electric car. :D If they put an electric motor on each wheel it would be a bullet. Give the car enough batteries to give it a 200 mile range and you would have a winner! :D
@@ronaldderooij1774 The Corvette evolved from its original inception; in 1953 Corvettes weren't all that good of a car and had many problems just like in 84 when Fieros debuted. At the start, neither car was considered a good "sports car"; they both had a bunch of issues, but as soon as the 85 Fiero GT was released it got some well deserved cred. The Fiero GT in 85 was rated only 90 less horsepower (140HP) than the Corvette of the same vintage (230HP), don't forget to account the Fiero weighed 1000lbs lighter, as well as being sold for a fraction of the price... In 88, the Fiero finally completely became what it was actually intended to be from the start with it's redesigned suspension. The Fiero honestly was no slouch in its day and honestly even to this day can hold its own with a modern engine under its decklid... Easy swaps like the 3.8 SC and even LS swapped ones are very possible, and parts to do so are produced by the very active Fiero community. Fieros are really cool little cars.
Technically, Buick did kind of go away too. All new Buicks are rebadged Vauxhall's from Europe. Ya notice how none of them look like the "grandparents cars" they used to & now look more European? GM just rebadges their overseas products for U.S. sale. Like the Camaro, it's an Aussie made Holden.
You can thank China for Buick. GM sells more Buick models in China than in USA. The 2 best selling car brands in China are Buick and VW. Chinese people love Buick and see it as a status symbol. The new Chevy SS, Capri was sold as a park avenue in China US never got that, Buick also has a 7 seater minivan in China. Small compact buicks also exist on the sonic platform
Thought about buying one a few years back...till I came to my sense !Best one I ever saw had that great looking snorkel over the roof with a caddy North Star and 8 exhaust pipes.
I got it from a corvette dealer in Chicago 2006. Story goes a guy bought two of them for his soon to be sixteen year old twin daughters as birthday presents. One of the girls died before her birthday and the guy unloaded it to the corvette dealer who held on to it till 2006 when I bought it and took it back to AZ. I don't drive it, look at it maybe once a year. It's a manual with opening sun roof. Even has the kit to keep the sheepskin looking sharp, other things also I don't quite remember :) I guess you call that a time capsule now, haha
To hell with the stupid boomer Vette. That prototype had insane potential, it's beautiful, it sounds exotic, it's long low wide. Damn it GM all you do is disapoint me.
I was lucky to have seen six Fiero’s hidden in a warehouse in Ypsilanti, Michigan produced AFTER 1998. I recall they were1991’s. The Fiero had a ZF transmission capable of accepting huge amounts of torque as evidenced by the ease of dropping big V8’s in them. The fact is that the mid-engine design was a Corvette killer....and I’m a big ‘Vette guy. The Fiero was an awesome design and proof of concept. Just look at the C8 Corvette. Mid-engine. Sound familiar? Great video!!!!
Well, you're in luck. The fiero has one of the most incredible support communities around it that you could ever find and they're still super affordable!
Agreed.....the design was like no other and still looks cool today but the interior (very cool looking as well) and entire powertrain was a total 💩. The slide rails on the seats would get stuck, dash board would warp along with door panels, windows would roll up super slow if any, gauges were always off and out of control. The engine would over heat. I know, my cousin had an 86 fierro. The exhaust always had a super nice tune though. When he first got it he took on a 91 Toyota Mr2 turbo and that Toyota took him out by far. I always thought the Fierro looked better though.
Many people are converting” their fieros” to use today’s technology.....You can jam any modern engine inside these. Suspension? No problem people are throwing aftermarket shit on these cars. Power steering and electric assist steering available....these car are pretty safe” if your in a accident” I rather be in a fiero then a mr2 or Honda....when involved in a accident.
You just got a new subscriber. Watching this from Guyana South America. A few of these running around here. At least 4 first generation and 2 of the last run out GT V6 models. Interesting video!
I had an 85 fiero. It was total shit until i rewired the whole car an put a 4.3L v6 in it with a 34f4 4 speed stick transmission. Lil green slug would fly like a bat outta hell.
A good li"l car in many ways drove well and handled very neatly but GM utterly ruined the concept by putting the iron Duke engine in it that belonged in a van how could they not have known this!!!
@@myjunkertravels6897 trouble is though it wasn't cheap it cost just as much as any other car to develop if they wanted a cheap sports car why would the put the 2.8 v6 and the auto box in it later on which is what they should have done in the first place
@@myjunkertravels6897 I appreciate your reply sir, however I believe that Isuzu is owned by a conglomerate of Japanese banks. If I'm not mistaken General Motors still holds about 10% ownership of the company as well.
The Fiero was GM's last innovative vehicle. My wife wanted one, so we bought a new 87 4 cylinder auto. To my great surprise it was actually fun to drive, which was a rarity in the 80's. The 4 cylinder engine they chose to put in it could have been better. The old "Iron Duke" wasn't exactly a sports car engine....they should have gone with the V6 across the board. I think they missed a big market share because they choose not to have power steering...the ladies like power steering. Pontiac had the right idea to build a fun affordable sports car during a time of boring cookie cutter vehicles.
They need to put the original rims back on the Indy fiero.....it’s not a damn donk. I’m glad they had a stashed.....goes to show how old these cars is....I own a 86 fiero....cool cars” people don’t know what they are” when on the road. Let’s hope there’s a stash of new parts.
I have a survivor (?) 1986 2M4 I bought new. It owes me zilch. Now a show car that does well. No problems, dependable-drive to events. And it is MINE. not for sale
Had a black 84 a little head work done improved injection a much better exhaust. 4 speed radio speakers in the head rest. Wiring harness evil bitch of a car. Just started to be a headache traded in
I remember the first time I saw an Opel GT in the Buick showroom window and thinking at first glance new Corvette though I never owned a Fiero I drove a few as a mechanic in a dealership and loved those GT's.
The white pace car wasnt bad. These were slightly better than the chevette that they shared suspension with. They are begging for a small block behind the seats.
Kewl Fiero's. I didn't know a 2+2 existed? I had a concept of a Fiero drive-train and suspension mid mounted behind the rear seat of a 66 Corvair convertible. ;-)
@@vicnic718 I've always wondered what the Fiero would be like today (or at least until GM dropped Pontiac) if it had been allowed to survive. I've had both an 84 2M4 and an 88 Formula and the difference four years makes was amazing.
I had an '86, formula nose and no rear spoiler. With T tops. And the 2.8L V6 automatic. Had to sell it when my wife was due with our first child. It was our only vehicle at the time. God, I miss that car
I loved my 86' fiero turbo gt.. 3.8 liter turbo charged V6.. Black / silver deck stripes And a custom rear wing.. It was very fast & the handling was ok.. It just wasn't safe to drive In rain & snow!! You could never punch it while making a turn!! (It would swap ends in a blink.. and you'd be headed the wrong direction!! It was like sitting in the cockpit of a small jet!! The bad news : there were only to places for minimal adjustments for a front end alignment.. after that, it had to go to a frame shop!! Another problem was the numerous recalls on the turbo/ and air intake sytem.. (it would cause high idle & shifting problems) .. Last but not least.. INSURANCE!! Initially, my insurance payments were reasonable after talking to my insurance provider on the phone.. after my V.I.N. #'s came back as to what the car was... (Basically a limited edition fiberglass sportscar with way too much power).. My policy was cancelled!!! I was 27.. a clean driving record.. good job .. and my car was almost uninsurable!! I say almost because after searching for days.. (and with the help of my insurance company) I found one that would insure me at the low cost of $226 / month !! 😯☹ My soon to be wife was heartbroken!! But 3 months later, I sold it!!
For a design that was only intended to be a commuter car for the masses. Then the stupidity and shoddy build quality set in. All the other versions including the 2+2 could've made it had GM gotten their act together.........
That GTA experimental at 1:44 looks like it was ready to roll right on to the roads to set an memorably documented standard for the coming decades... except for those lingering GM dash air side vents that needed to be shaved up from the floor (similar to the likes of the period Camaros) Oof, smacking one's knees on that and cracking the dash all to bits was a flaw in design that lasted entirely too long.
Major conspiracy on why these cars were stopped being made. As far as I can remember growing up in the 80s (born 1976) these were among the hottest of small sports cars. Neck and neck with ferraris as far as popularity. The lamborghini cuntach was king though.
It wasn’t called the GTA Experimental. Its original nose badge was stolen years ago. The original one was shaped the same but had the Fiero Pegasus in the center and had GTP above it. GM replaced it with a production GTA badge After it was stolen. That’s why it says Trans Am on it and has the phoenix.
GM should have kept Pontiac and got rid of Buick. China ended up owning a lot of GM stock and the Chinese prefer the Buick even over the Cadillac. I am still buying Pontiacs on the used markets and will continue until they are gone.
I daily drive my Pontiac Grand Prix. It was a major mistake to get rid of Pontiac. A clean slate design by Pontiac similar to the G8 but made in America would sell to Pontiac fans.
Well go to show you GM is full of idiots. People would have bought that 90 gta. Instead they just make ugly recreations of ilder cars to bank on people who only care if there car has bluetooth
The designers should be proud, those cars are still cool looking.
Agreed. I think it still holds up.
I remember the black and yellow one from hotrod magazine when I was a kid
Ah yes drivable garbage shoulda bought an mr2
🤣🤣🤣🤮
Good god, that 1990 experimental. Actually skipped a heartbeat on that one, Absolute pinnacle of sleek futuristic 80s design. Sad we'll never see anything that looks like that again
Silverstreak no kidding. at the time it would have been unreal!
That would've gave the Mazda Miata and Toyota MR2 a run for it's money.
You said a mouthful! Ashame what could had been.
wow. I've seen a lot of pictures of it but never heard it's engine before!
It looks awesome but if you took a 1990 firebird and shaved 30” off it’s the same car. It was Pontiac inability to be original which caused its downfall
I miss Pontiac
GM is not GM without Pontiac they were dismantled on purpose to bring the USA down. The fella in office at the time said those jobs are not coming back. Funny how TRUMP is now president and the economy did a 180.
Me too man. Me too.
We gotta keep buying only American!
@@mt1885 Except those jobs never came back, and more were lost due to automation. The economy is propped up on government subsidies and the average American's life is progressively getting worse. We can't bring the old jobs back, we have to use automation to better ALL Americans not just the top 1% who owns most of the wealth.
@@charlottesimss9853 Not lost to automation it was due to GLOBAL with open borders and competing with 3rd world countries where the jobs went. TRUMP is putting tarriffs on this and it is working.
Imagine the V6 turbo from the Buick Grand National stuffed in these cars
Look up 3.8SC swapped Fieros. Super common swap, parts to do so are produced by the private vendors in the awesome Fiero community. They are out of the newer Regals and GTPs from the late 90s and early 00s. Also check out some of the LS swaps, they are also semi-common too!
It would be a fun project.
@@Shho13 I've also seen one with a transverse mounted chevy 350SB mounted in one.
I use to find fieros parked in the weeds all over the place. People would nearly pay me to get them off their property. Id chop them up and build trikes out of them. Perfect platform for it, in my opinion.
There are more of those actually out there than you think people have swapped Motors into them many times
I own a bunch of Pontiac 455 engines, 1970, 360 hp, 1972 455 H.O. among others. GM screwed up when they axed Pontiac, they built so unique machines. 👍👍🏁
Even the rebadged Holdens were better than anything else GM usa was doing at the time.
@Ultraman's Inspirational Recipes
Yea, the old Pontiac V8 engines are getting harder and harder to find, still cool with a 454, also small things like brackets for Pontiac v8s are very rare these days. My 1972 455 H.O. still have the 7f6 heads on it, it came in a black T/A, my dad bought the engine when original owner parted the car out to raise money for college. Been in our family since then. I found the 1970 455 on Craigslist about 45 minutes from me, jumped on it.
@@rickc2102 goodness yes. I love the Chevy SS, Pontiac G8, and Caprice PPV. So much better in terms of overall quality as well as being a driver's car.
@@rickc2102 the most reliable ( not fun ...reliable ) Pontiac is a Toyota ... have a good Vibe !
GM should bring back the Fiero as an all electric car. :D If they put an electric motor on each wheel it would be a bullet. Give the car enough batteries to give it a 200 mile range and you would have a winner! :D
Oooh I like that idea
I am so glad to see the New 2020 fiero. The new 2020 corvette.
Lung Dong Right , when it seems that it has resemblance to it .
According to Pontiac, the Fiero was not a sports car, but a sporty commuter car. You can hardly say that of the new Corvette.
@@ronaldderooij1774 in my dream world, my 2020 Vette will be my sporty commuter car.
I personally thought fieros were similar to Pontiac solstice.
@@ronaldderooij1774 The Corvette evolved from its original inception; in 1953 Corvettes weren't all that good of a car and had many problems just like in 84 when Fieros debuted. At the start, neither car was considered a good "sports car"; they both had a bunch of issues, but as soon as the 85 Fiero GT was released it got some well deserved cred. The Fiero GT in 85 was rated only 90 less horsepower (140HP) than the Corvette of the same vintage (230HP), don't forget to account the Fiero weighed 1000lbs lighter, as well as being sold for a fraction of the price...
In 88, the Fiero finally completely became what it was actually intended to be from the start with it's redesigned suspension. The Fiero honestly was no slouch in its day and honestly even to this day can hold its own with a modern engine under its decklid... Easy swaps like the 3.8 SC and even LS swapped ones are very possible, and parts to do so are produced by the very active Fiero community. Fieros are really cool little cars.
They finally get it right and then drop it. Loved the convertible! Zora inspired mid engines.
Its all about them making that GTA ;)
whoa! whoa! whoa! WHOA! can we talk about that 90 GTA Experimental?? WHAT is that? its gorgeous!
It's a Camaro
@@scottielambert9312 are.......are you serious right now?
Bring back Pontiac,some real GM vehicles
But first gm should end the failing company buick and keep opel out of america
Or Pontiac should comeback and have nothing to do with GM.
That 1990 prototype would have been awesome if built. A turbocharged 3.8 would have made that one a rocket.
When I look at these they look like the dodge m4s turbo interceptor just a bit longer and that was a very quick car
Or if only the W41 was reliable, and put in there from the year it was introduced.
Imagine the awd power powertrain from the Cyclone in it.
GM should have terminated Buick, instead of PONTIAC
Technically, Buick did kind of go away too. All new Buicks are rebadged Vauxhall's from Europe. Ya notice how none of them look like the "grandparents cars" they used to & now look more European? GM just rebadges their overseas products for U.S. sale. Like the Camaro, it's an Aussie made Holden.
@@marvinheemeyer6660 The Camaro is not a Holden! It is built in Michigan. You are mistaken it with the Pontiac G8 and GTO as well as the Chevrolet SS
You can thank China for Buick. GM sells more Buick models in China than in USA. The 2 best selling car brands in China are Buick and VW. Chinese people love Buick and see it as a status symbol. The new Chevy SS, Capri was sold as a park avenue in China US never got that, Buick also has a 7 seater minivan in China. Small compact buicks also exist on the sonic platform
@Cini minis Where did you get misinformation from? Camaro was designed and built in Michigan.
Has anyone ever produced a body kit for the 1990 GTA?
Thought about buying one a few years back...till I came to my sense !Best one I ever saw had that great looking snorkel over the roof with a caddy North Star and 8 exhaust pipes.
I have a red 84 with the tan sheepskin interior that's never been dealer prepared. Still has the plastic on the seats and door panels etc.
@Jermias Santos I second this
I got it from a corvette dealer in Chicago 2006. Story goes a guy bought two of them for his soon to be sixteen year old twin daughters as birthday presents. One of the girls died before her birthday and the guy unloaded it to the corvette dealer who held on to it till 2006 when I bought it and took it back to AZ. I don't drive it, look at it maybe once a year. It's a manual with opening sun roof. Even has the kit to keep the sheepskin looking sharp, other things also I don't quite remember :) I guess you call that a time capsule now, haha
@@guywihn1658 noice!
Give ya $9k cash an send truck to bring back to Michigan! Deal??
factory convertible!!!! why did they do this to me? I need one!!!!!
That imsa and GTA concept were awesome
They would have sold the hell out of that 1990, especially if it priced out cheaper than the Vette. Probably why they didn’t produce it.
Anything that threatened GMs precious vette in the other divisions of GM was shut down, hence why Pontiac was doomed from the start
To hell with the stupid boomer Vette. That prototype had insane potential, it's beautiful, it sounds exotic, it's long low wide. Damn it GM all you do is disapoint me.
@@blueflame4509, don't forget about the Grand National or Cyclone/Typhoon.
@@bradleyvantassal8328 more fine examples
I was lucky to have seen six Fiero’s hidden in a warehouse in Ypsilanti, Michigan produced AFTER 1998. I recall they were1991’s. The Fiero had a ZF transmission capable of accepting huge amounts of torque as evidenced by the ease of dropping big V8’s in them. The fact is that the mid-engine design was a Corvette killer....and I’m a big ‘Vette guy. The Fiero was an awesome design and proof of concept. Just look at the C8 Corvette. Mid-engine. Sound familiar? Great video!!!!
I really wish I could get my hands on one of those. I've never found one in my area that wasn't beat up with lots of issues. They look super cool.
Well, you're in luck. The fiero has one of the most incredible support communities around it that you could ever find and they're still super affordable!
GM is so stupid for getting rid of Pontiac!
They sure are
That GTA red prototype is sure one awesome looking, I would buy one in a sec if that price be under 100k
Fuckin GM, always killing something right when it starts getting good
This car was the Corvair of my generation. Few loved it, but their passion was immense.
Still an amazing car.
They look nice but mechanically they were junk, maybe with today’s technology it would be a better car
Agreed.....the design was like no other and still looks cool today but the interior (very cool looking as well) and entire powertrain was a total 💩. The slide rails on the seats would get stuck, dash board would warp along with door panels, windows would roll up super slow if any, gauges were always off and out of control. The engine would over heat. I know, my cousin had an 86 fierro. The exhaust always had a super nice tune though. When he first got it he took on a 91 Toyota Mr2 turbo and that Toyota took him out by far. I always thought the Fierro looked better though.
Not if the bean counters have their say. (And they're the ones that caused those problems in the first place.)
Many people are converting” their fieros” to use today’s technology.....You can jam any modern engine inside these.
Suspension? No problem people are throwing aftermarket shit on these cars.
Power steering and electric assist steering available....these car are pretty safe” if your in a accident” I rather be in a fiero then a mr2 or Honda....when involved in a accident.
I liked the look of the 2+2 it being longer made it look tough as hell put the pro street engine in it and wahala. Corvette killer!
You just got a new subscriber. Watching this from Guyana South America. A few of these running around here. At least 4 first generation and 2 of the last run out GT V6 models. Interesting video!
Love that GTA experimental! Is it a longer wheelbase than the original too? Could have been another NSX!
*I remember that 87 "Pro Street" from Hot Rod Magazine in 1987 that was the neatest looking thing ever*
I had an 85 fiero. It was total shit until i rewired the whole car an put a 4.3L v6 in it with a 34f4 4 speed stick transmission. Lil green slug would fly like a bat outta hell.
Good times bro. That has to be a handful
@@vincentrohmann1110 she was.
A good li"l car in many ways drove well and handled very neatly but GM utterly ruined the concept by putting the iron Duke engine in it that belonged in a van how could they not have known this!!!
@@martinburke362 they was tryin to make a cheap sports car. I made it better fer cheaper.
@@myjunkertravels6897 trouble is though it wasn't cheap it cost just as much as any other car to develop if they wanted a cheap sports car why would the put the 2.8 v6 and the auto box in it later on which is what they should have done in the first place
It's sad how GM destroyed so many possible new dreams when they closed down Pontiac. I'm sure those CEO will spend there eternity in Ford hell. LOL
Ford makes the engines in diesel chevrolet an gmc trucks. They dine in hell.
@@myjunkertravels6897 or maybe... Isuzu
@@randomtask4102 isuzu was bought out by dodge in 08 an then bought by ford in 09.
@@myjunkertravels6897 I appreciate your reply sir, however I believe that Isuzu is owned by a conglomerate of Japanese banks. If I'm not mistaken General Motors still holds about 10% ownership of the company as well.
@@randomtask4102 they aint since 2008.
The Fiero went on to inspire so many cars. It's too bad they didn't let it or Pontiac live long enough to see what it should of became.
Anthony Keegan it inspired a ton of horrible supercar replicas 😂😂. The later models look like baby Ferrari’s though, super cool.
Wow! What an amazing collection.
The Fiero was GM's last innovative vehicle. My wife wanted one, so we bought a new 87 4 cylinder auto. To my great surprise it was actually fun to drive, which was a rarity in the 80's. The 4 cylinder engine they chose to put in it could have been better. The old "Iron Duke" wasn't exactly a sports car engine....they should have gone with the V6 across the board. I think they missed a big market share because they choose not to have power steering...the ladies like power steering. Pontiac had the right idea to build a fun affordable sports car during a time of boring cookie cutter vehicles.
Blame GM giving them one of the smallest budgets for a car at the time
Something I never knew I wanted to see
GM #1
They need to put the original rims back on the Indy fiero.....it’s not a damn donk.
I’m glad they had a stashed.....goes to show how old these cars is....I own a 86 fiero....cool cars” people don’t know what they are” when on the road.
Let’s hope there’s a stash of new parts.
That 1990 is beautiful ! 😳
4:54 4seater has brake lights wired to amber turn signals.
interesting catch!
I have a survivor (?) 1986 2M4 I bought new. It owes me zilch. Now a show car that does well. No problems, dependable-drive to events. And it is MINE. not for sale
GM should be ashamed of itself, all that potential, just from Pontiac alone, they did build excitement.
Maybe if GM would have allowed Pontiac to build some of these concepts for production, they would have sold a crap ton more Fieros.
Further proof of GM blowing it out their asses when they killed Pontiac. That GTA is killer!
Had a black 84 a little head work done improved injection a much better exhaust. 4 speed radio speakers in the head rest. Wiring harness evil bitch of a car. Just started to be a headache traded in
I'll take that 86 Turbo
I wish they would have made it until the end of pontiac can you imagine how good it would have been in the 2000s
They look like mini corvettes
I remember the first time I saw an Opel GT in the Buick showroom window and thinking at first glance new Corvette though I never owned a Fiero I drove a few as a mechanic in a dealership and loved those GT's.
The white pace car wasnt bad. These were slightly better than the chevette that they shared suspension with. They are begging for a small block behind the seats.
If the fiero ushered on into the 90s eventually the supercharged 3800 would've been in there. That would mean trouble for GM'S precious Corvette.
agreed
you should see the banquet speech by hulki
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Oh yeah!!! 💯
Imagine a Callaway fiero 👀
1 Why is this recommended to me in 2019. 2 How many pixels died in creating this video?
the pixels never existed. this was all shot in SD or max 720p :)
@RJ mi exactly. A big fiero hype now thanks to the C8
That GTA sounded rowdy
I always wanted one!
they're not hard to obtain
I like the red one.
I made a response video for all of you lovely people! ua-cam.com/video/648bkXO7atg/v-deo.html
I love watching this video.
Always inspires me
That 2+2 concept is so fucking clleaaaannn
In what year was this filmed ? thanks for the video. My buddy had an 89 Fiero GT cool car back in the day.
All you have to do is add 20 to 1984 and you will have the date it was filmed.
@@tonyd9455 2004
2004
It was probably a 1988....there were only one 1989 fiero.
Lol, I hade one of Thies, the car was all plastic, rear bumper and front bumper were fiberglass. Easy to work on .
They are timeless masterpieces!
That Convertible Is Nice
Chevy did these cars no favors. Fiero was up against the Camaro's the Firebirds the Corvettes. Fieros got it right the first time.
amen
Wonder if GM still has them
Wow!!! I used to drool over that pace car, it used to sit for years in the museum of science and industries car exhibit in Chicago
But those rims are hideous
Conner Tate they weren’t when I was 7 years old. That car was perfect
The 4th gen F body Camaro inherited the same body style. Pretty interesting
Kewl Fiero's. I didn't know a 2+2 existed?
I had a concept of a Fiero drive-train and suspension mid mounted behind the rear seat of a 66 Corvair convertible. ;-)
It's sad that GM gave up on making cars
New... Corvette... not a car?
@@rickc2102 no it's a toy
Can't wait to see my first 2020 Fiero >ahem< I mean Corvette.
2020 Chevrolet Fiero
@@vicnic718 I've always wondered what the Fiero would be like today (or at least until GM dropped Pontiac) if it had been allowed to survive. I've had both an 84 2M4 and an 88 Formula and the difference four years makes was amazing.
Fierro Stash
From bodymans perspective you need to stretch rear out at least foot.
Yes. It would look more exotic that way.
I had an '86, formula nose and no rear spoiler. With T tops. And the 2.8L V6 automatic. Had to sell it when my wife was due with our first child. It was our only vehicle at the time.
God, I miss that car
Man I loved and miss mine
Nice cars still.
GM really made great cars.. Only to cancel them later on...
Those are cool
I just saw this upload. Awesome!!! Are any of these actually driveable minus the old tires?
That’s a whole lot of fiero!!!!
That gta!
I loved my 86' fiero turbo gt..
3.8 liter turbo charged V6..
Black / silver deck stripes
And a custom rear wing.. It was very fast & the handling was ok..
It just wasn't safe to drive In rain & snow!! You could never punch it while making a turn!! (It would swap ends in a blink.. and you'd be headed the wrong direction!!
It was like sitting in the cockpit of a small jet!! The bad news : there were only to places for minimal adjustments for a front end alignment.. after that, it had to go to a frame shop!!
Another problem was the numerous recalls on the turbo/ and air intake sytem.. (it would cause high idle & shifting problems) ..
Last but not least.. INSURANCE!!
Initially, my insurance payments were reasonable after talking to my insurance provider on the phone.. after my V.I.N. #'s came back as to what the car was...
(Basically a limited edition fiberglass sportscar with way too much power).. My policy was cancelled!!! I was 27.. a clean driving record.. good job .. and my car was almost uninsurable!! I say almost because after searching for days.. (and with the help of my insurance company) I found one that would insure me at the low cost of $226 / month !! 😯☹
My soon to be wife was heartbroken!! But 3 months later, I sold it!!
For a design that was only intended to be a commuter car for the masses. Then the stupidity and shoddy build quality set in. All the other versions including the 2+2 could've made it had GM gotten their act together.........
Imagine the Turbo 301c.i.d V-8 in the Fiero. I'd bet better results than on firebirds. GM, messed up bumping off PONTIAC!!!!
That GTA experimental at 1:44 looks like it was ready to roll right on to the roads to set an memorably documented standard for the coming decades... except for those lingering GM dash air side vents that needed to be shaved up from the floor (similar to the likes of the period Camaros) Oof, smacking one's knees on that and cracking the dash all to bits was a flaw in design that lasted entirely too long.
Ok, if I was to buy one again..... I'd buy that prototype that looked like a small firebird. Niiiice. Deep exaust sounds and must have power.
Major conspiracy on why these cars were stopped being made. As far as I can remember growing up in the 80s (born 1976) these were among the hottest of small sports cars. Neck and neck with ferraris as far as popularity. The lamborghini cuntach was king though.
That prototype sounded freakin amazing! I vant vone! i vant vone! (Super Troopers joke)
Funny how GM kept the Good Cars tucked away and NEVER produced them but gave us the lousy, non special cars !
It wasn’t called the GTA Experimental. Its original nose badge was stolen years ago. The original one was shaped the same but had the Fiero Pegasus in the center and had GTP above it. GM replaced it with a production GTA badge After it was stolen. That’s why it says Trans Am on it and has the phoenix.
Fire Arrows rule. What year was this? Clothing looks like early to mid 2000s pre bailout..I bet those cars were auctioned off
If Pontiac existed, Toyota could’ve make the new mr2 with them.
GM should have kept Pontiac and got rid of Buick. China ended up owning a lot of GM stock and the Chinese prefer the Buick even over the Cadillac. I am still buying Pontiacs on the used markets and will continue until they are gone.
@ 1:45 typical GM V6 start with performance muffer. Love it
GTA looks like a baby firebird. Why wasn't these cars produced and sold
I daily drive my Pontiac Grand Prix. It was a major mistake to get rid of Pontiac. A clean slate design by Pontiac similar to the G8 but made in America would sell to Pontiac fans.
Well go to show you GM is full of idiots. People would have bought that 90 gta. Instead they just make ugly recreations of ilder cars to bank on people who only care if there car has bluetooth
To this day I say fiero got screwed from it's great potential because of Corvette. Look at the 84 pacecar for example.
"The Last Fiero" is such an amazing and sad thing. Had Pontiac continued it's possible there would have been a stock Supercharged, Turbo or V8 Model.
If and when GM ever decides to bring back the Fiero with the same looks concept I'll be sure to be saving my money
The 1990 Fiero GTA Experimental would have sold well idk why they didn’t go for it