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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Dr. Charles is facing a complicated situation when a mother and her baby are admitted to the ED, the doctors realise that the baby is just a doll.
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Season 06, Episode 08, Fathers and Mothers, Daughters and Sons,
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Terrible for the father to have to endure this situation again.
Sure, completely disregard the mother.
I mean not really
Its hard on both of them
@@chrisidornigie I think they mean that the father had to suffer not only his kid gone but that her wife can’t let go of the past and had to be the person to maintain everything in order alone.
he did great tho
@@chrisidornigie I think you kinda underestimate what the father was going through. Not only did he lose his kid a year ago but he had to deal with the fact that his wife was not really alright mentally after it (and who would be, honestly). His wife was in a sweet delusion, so mentally she was not even aware that the kid was dead (or not to a conscious point). Life is full of harsh realities, and we seek relief from them in a variety of pleasing delusions, that is something that can be applied here. But the man had to play the role again to see the whole "scene" unfold before his eyes again when they had to take her out of her delusion. In short, they both suffered, and really in a real-life scenario, no one should go through that (even tho it happens).
I see doctor Charles I click
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Me too 😊
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Me too.
I love how Dr. Charles is just like: 'Yup Ma'am, we're gonna take excellent care of your totally real, not a doll baby.'
Psychology 101: "Never antagonize the delusions of a patient, that will only be responded with anger and aggressiveness"
She would be angry and get berserk mode because doctors are neglecting her "baby"
@@hasturthekinginyellow5003 yeah from a personal view this is really important i have some issues and for me i kinda know it can't be real but it is so real to me. and one time we went to the doctors and instead of doing as you say she just said " oh so you think that?" to each thing i said didn't hear me through i got angry and if i wasn't so scared (anxiety ) i would have properly outward shown maybe even physical aggression i can say oh i feel delusional that doesn't mean i no longer am living in that Delusion it's like weirdly being selfaware that it's a simulation but it still feels way to real to be fake
Well that's genuinely how to deal with a delusional patient
That man has been so strong and the fact that he’s been there for her through this is amazing
So like he's just supposed to leave her? The standards for mem are soo low
@@user-ml4ps5cq3v In this society? Yes, yes they are. Because unfortunately it happens in real life. Be realistic.
@@user-ml4ps5cq3v It's not the standard for men it's the standard OF men and yes it's very low
@@user-ml4ps5cq3v no it’s obviously just the standard they are used to! Real men stand by their family no matter what 👍🏼 so I agree with you, getting boring these feminists putting our good men down cause they look in the wrong places themselves.
@@jfzzlc That's what I said. And then males complain about feminism when standards for men are dirt low. And them complain why women chose to remain so single
This is so so sad. The unimaginable grief of losing a child, especially if you feel responsible
This is why I never hold babies. Too fragile.
I didn’t drop my baby.. but I too feel like guilt over the fact my baby girl is dead everyday and it necker lesves
@@natashawest8918 🫂
@@natashawest8918 I’m so sorry for your loss. If you don’t mind me asking, what happened I get she fell but….? You don’t have to answer
@@natashawest8918 It's not your fault. Listen to me it's not your fault. I'm sorry for your loss.
I salute the husband for staying calm
It's a show...
@@Salviamente_Celes huh? How else is he suppose to react?
@@Salviamente_Celes no really? I thought these were recordings of an actual hospital 😐
@@Salviamente_Celes Your point?
@@Salviamente_Celes yeah I think they're complimenting the acting/writing choices, not having the dad be weird, abandoning his wife or getting angry or yelling at the wife for being 'crazy' or whatever
And shows like this usually reflect real life, however rare, uncommon etc the situation it draws light in how grief can affect people so deeply and severely it causes issues like this
The role playing is very therapeutic for the mom to say goodbye to her baby
In this case it looks like it was in the end yes... it's also often delaying grief + suffering, prolonging it rather than facing + processing it.
What she is doing is perfectly natural the reborn is a device to help her with her grief. We all do it, we us rosaries, black armbands, poor wine or beer as a libation, folded flags, wakes, even the dead themselves become a centre for mourning.
There simply isn't a cultural purpose in industrialised societies for it.
Apparently this is a pretty common thing that can happen. In my home town there was a elderly woman carrying around a baby doll and feeding it with a small golden spoon. Turns out when she was young and pregnant she was r@ped by two men and lost the baby.
That’s heartbreaking 😢
oh wow poor thing 💔
men.....
Wow, the world could be soo ugly sometime
As a mother of a stillborn (39 weeks pregnant) I can relate to the mother at some point.
I went through a difficult time but I think, a reborn baby would make it even worse for one mental health.
I’m so sorry for your loss!
And I have too lost a baby, she was 4,5 months old and had several complicated heart defects but her doctors believed she would be fine so her death was a bit of a shock (but I knew, probably because of my maternal instincts).
Replacing her with a doll would definitely have hindered my grieving process, I strongly believe it’s unhealthy to try to do such a thing.
I pray for both of you. And I totally agree about the doll.
As an adult who has a baby doll that goes everywhere with me, I've seen many different reactions to having her with me. And personally, I'm quite impressed with how the doctors there handled the situation even before knowing exactly what was going on. They didnt just kick her out, they actually tried to help. So. Good on them.
Incase anyone was wondering why I have my baby doll, I have autism. As well as a few other things that we know are there but they haven't been officially diagnosed yet. My baby helps with communication, she helps with staying calm especially in shopping centres and cars and stuff like that where it can get extremely overstimulating. And she provides a little bit of companionship, I guess? I think it's also related to early childhood trauma that I got. Unlike the lady in this video, I know my baby isn't real. But she wears real baby clothes and she has her own personality and if she gets hurt I get upset. Stuff like that. So.. she's real to me, even though I know she isn't technically alive.
Now, please don't reply to this with anything negative, I get enough of that just leaving my house with baby. I'm only posting this to say my opinion on the video, and explain why I have that opinion so that people understand. If you don't like it, just leave me alone..
I'm glad you have that to help you. I try to take stuffed animals with me when i go places as they calm me and help me.
I have Autism too so I carry a toy horse with me
That actually sounds like safe way to cope with the world. I hope people around You have been understanding.
That is weak.
Cease concretization, immerse in the abstract. Study mathematics, logic and philosophy.
I'm autistic, am also a writer/speaker in my field, and I have soft toys that I take with me to events and engagements. It's how I cope and manage my anxiety and overload. I've delivered talks to full conference rooms whilst holding a teddy bear. We need to normalize adults having soft toys, dolls etc. It doesn't do anyone any harm, and for those of us who need them, they really do help.
At where I work, there was a pregnant woman who had a terrible car accident and she had bleeding in her abdomen. After surgery the mother was doing somewhat okay and regained her consciousness, but the baby was not in a good condition. He had like massive bleeding in his brain and severe brain hypoxia. The doctors said he wouldn’t make it. The mother asked to hold her baby for the first and last time. We transferred the baby with all the equipment from NICU to SICU to his mother so they can have a brief moment together. A very sad day for all the staffs.
How could she hold a baby she hasn't even given bitrh to yet?
@@klarabarunovic9841 im assuming they did an emergency c-section while performing surgery on the mother?
@@jiayiisconfused3103 exactly
The husband is very understanding and sweet,Dr Charles handled this with a lot of compassion too
Dr Charles is so tender… he’s definitely my fav. My heart breaks at the point at the end when she’s finally saying goodbye to her baby and seeing her cry… so hard
okay? no one cares
@@iPodCharger69420🤨
@@iPodCharger69420be quiet you miserable cu next Tuesday
I’ve watched this episode before, and rewatching it now hits like a tank having had my very young mother pass on abruptly, I never got to say goodbye. And while it’s not an identical experience, I still feel with the mom and anyone else who’s gone through this
I am very sorry for your loss . We never get over loss, we just get used to live with it .. stay strong .. she is your guardian angel
Sadie
Can i offer u a virtual hug ? 🤗🤗🤗
just a gentle reminder that we r here for u .
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praying for you.💖💖💖
stay blessed.
Oh my gosh. What an episode. And having the father relive all that was brutal. As always superb story.
Dr. Charles belongs in a fairytale. The way he always assure mentally struggling patients and showing that he is believing in them, that require so much patience.
it must be heartbreaking for the dad to relive the trauma, but i get how it could help the mum say goodbye properly.
The actor playing the ex-husband does such a good job playing someone who is NOT an actor, awkwardly acting his way thru this scenario where he has to pretend all this is really happening.
They are freakishly real looking. I once picked up a reborn for a friend in my car and the whole way home I freaked out “what if a cop sees a baby laying in the passengers seat?!?”
They're real? In a real baby's likeness?
@@elsagreen1476 Yes I've known them to be used for mothers who have experienced loss and elderly patients who may be experiencing dementia and may think they have a baby,
They are weighted just like a baby & they feel and look like a baby
@@elsagreen1476 Some of them are made to look like a specific real baby, but most are just make to look as real as possible without being a replica of a specific person. Most of the people who have them know that they're not real though.
That's a little unnerving gotta be honest
@@elsagreen1476 They are to those of us who are fully cogniscent, but for those who are mentally/emotionally compromised through extreme grief, trauma or dementia they can provide comfort for whatever time it takes to process.
One thing that struck me is the fact that new mothers fear that scenario. Dropping our babies. We stay awake watching them breathe. I don’t know a new mom that hasn’t had thoughts of “what if” in the really early days and been frightened of hurting their baby all the while feeling such an over abundance of love and protection for them.
That's one reason why I HATE episodes like this. It only puts more fear into new parent's minds for drama reasons. Yes, it is possible that you drop your baby, and it is possible that they get hurt badly by it. But adding more fear will prevent nothing
I am not a mother but even when I held my friends daughter at 8 weeks I never got of the couch because I was worried I could drop her. It just felt safer to stay in the couch.
I got two reborn dolls as a little kid, they were so nice to play with, especially because I played nicely with dolls generally. I still have them, they're super cute. Sometimes i take them out and hug them when I'm going through my childhood toys and they make me feel like a child again
I have dolls too mines are so cute I still play with them but I’m 12
@@anoniempje2134 (shh, 17 and sometimes play with them too xD) but you're still a kid :)
@@idontreadorreply hihi (they so cute I can’t let them lay on my bed alone) I love them they are the only one they understand (I talk too them)
@@anoniempje2134 im 30 and i still sleep with my teddybear too.
@@imanadultsmile8307 that's nice :)
As a Dr aspiring to be a psychiatrist, i love how all the rarest of the psychiatrist diseases come in this show.
Gives me an idea on how to approach patients like these if i come into contact with them even if its 1 in a million possibility for that to happen
I think it's the ability to see patients not just as patients, but as human beings, and to treat each and every one with dignity.
I bought a reborn after I found out I can't have kids. It got me through a difficult time.
What's a reborn doll
@@1995robin hyper realistic dolls, they look exactly like a real baby and often help people cope with child loss or in this persons case, infertility
@@1995robin it's a lifelike doll of a baby. A lot of people buy them after having a miscarriage or infant loss to help them cope.
I'm sorry to hear that. Are you coping better with it now?
@@katiebeanz9960 I see, thank you!
There was a movie actress in my country who couldnt have child or has miscarriage or something, so she ended up doting on these stuffed dolls and she treats them as her children. Not as extreme as this and she still acknowledges that the dolls are not real babies but seeing them made me understand that these traumas really can happen.
✨I wish drs were paid enough and had enough time with people to care as much as they have 💞✨
so well said!
I have to comment that I think all of you with any extra challenges facing the world we live in today are truly courageous and beautiful in your adaptations that assist you. So many of us supposedly ‘normal’ folk have invisible crutches that we rely on to get us through like drink, drugs, etc. I hope you can take strength from the positive comments on here and know that there are those of us out in the world that applaud you.
❤
Reborn dolls are such good therapy for those struggling with grief. These people do not need ridicule, they need support.
They also help if someone is unable to have a baby.
I’m going to hell for laughing when he said, “this is a doll.” Lmao
i'll be joining you lmao 🤣
This is sad for new parents or even the not so new ones. Losing a child at this really young age is devastating. I appreciate Dr. Charles by letting her still be in that moment to straighten things out. I know it's TV show, but still, my heart goes to these grieving parents..
So tragic. To have to relive the worst moment of your life twice even if only in your head.
Dr Charles rocks all of our worlds 🌎
Omg heart breaks for everyone all round... father would have to be so strong to endure this all over again and deep down the mother is grieving all over again aswell. But as they said "she's finally saying goodbye to her baby"🍼... can you imagine a medical system that would support and enact this in order to help a grieving couple for a loss of their baby from a year ago?! I don't think they would, but I'd like to think they would...
At the start i didn't really understood, but now this is actually so sad when i think about it and can totally understand how it could happen in real life..
Mental health is real. A little issue can cause a complete override of our mental faculties🤔
This is similar to "reliving" which is part of the treatment for PTSD.
Dr Chalse makes u feel calm just with his tone while speaking. The fictional character can make u feel calm is something weird.
That Mum is an amazing actress.
Agreed, she had to show no hints of faking it so the audience was convinced she was delusional.
I so appreciate how compassionate Dr. Charles is... Our minds are really very fragile and when someone has gone so far as to slip into a delusion like this they really do need someone who can help them regain their footing in reality in a patient, gentle way- not someone who just callously rips away their emotional crutch... I hope there are psychiatrists in real life who treat their patients in a dignified, empathetic way like this
I only wish real doctors are as invested in their patients as these drs in all the medical dramas.
Sorry dad😢😢😢😢. Soooo glad mum can finally find peace😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Oh boy 😭 so poignant but compassionate
To understand the mother you need to understand how grief works. I finally got work just before my benefits ran out. My boss was quadraplegic and I had to drive his van. I turned too quickly and his wheelchair tipped. Soon after that my boss died of a nosebleed. I had to go to the office, call his patients to cancel the appointments.
I still cleared the snow from the wheelchair ramp and kept his office door closed. At the funeral i was convinced it was a celebration tribute. I did not sleep for a week.
Sometimes grief is powerful enough that the mind just will not accept it. What Dr. Charles did was recognize that and help her get closure. Good episode.
Hoping for a Chicago Psych with Doc Charles!!
Excellent acting in this episode. You can see and feel the empathy.
What makes this episode better is that the show probably uses baby alive-like baby body doubles for certain scenes where they need a baby in a precarious situation (I.e. when they give them cpr) all the time. It gives this story about a realistic baby alive doll this kinda funny meta layer to it.
I used to volunteer delivering meals to the elderly, one time I was delivering two meals to what I thought was an elderly couple, turns out it was an old lady and a stuffed bear who she thought was her husband who passed away, I enquired and she didn't have dementia or anything that prevented her from living by herself, it was eye opening, I've seen people with degenerative conditions who are similar but never someone who was otherwise healthy and came off completely normal.
if this happened in a public hospital in South Africa no one would be indulging this woman, they will voetsek you out of the waiting area, doctors don't have the time for this in the public system.
You are not lying shame. They'll say tsek uyahlanya and call the other staff to come and laugh at you.
@@kwenzandlovu7495 🤭 I don't mean to laugh but that's the reality...
In Zimbabwe worse they wud call her mad record her n stuff
I know this is just a show, but I couldn’t help the tears..😢
I didn't expect to cry
This is already the second chicago med clip I've watched where they handle delusions very well. You need to acknowledge the delusion and not deny it
This is heartbreaking
Interesting, so it's like a PTSD dissociation
Oh and would you look at that, Dr Charles brought in to be a f*cking legend again
So, she was trying to change the outcome, but she made the same decision her husband did?
She just wanted to participate, right?
it's more that she needed to face that same decision herself. by the time she woke up the first time her daughter was already gone and all the info was given to her secon-hand by the husband. i guess because she felt guilty over dropping the baby and causing this to happen, her brain convinced her that if she had been involved then she could have saved her child.
but when they reinacted the situation she ws finally able to accept that there was nothing she chould have done to help
I think if she had not been given the doll then as hard as it would be she would eventually work through all the grief and be able to mourn.
Getting the doll just gave her traumatised mind a way to not completely deal with the loss.
@@xenalovesares I don't think so, then she wouldn't have a way to cope
Thats right. Her daughter sadly passed when she was unconscious, she had no say, no way to process what was happening. This gave her a change to say goodbye.
why is maggie’s hair always looking fire??
always 💯
I hope we'll see the continuation of the crossover with Dylan in this series. Maybe with him that I want to make amends for Olinsky's daughter's death in him way by making himself him fortieth victim. I would find it satisfactory.
This was the best thing, Sarah's mother was unconscious during Sarah's end-of-life decision making. She needed peace and closure.
This is really heartbreaking 😢
Never liked those dolls, always thought they would cause problems like this
You just don't know what someone may have been experiencing...be as gentle as you can with others & yourself.
Sometimes you just have to play along to help someone move on
That’d never happen in the hospital, not enough beds or staff to give one up for a doll
It would happen in Scotland. Why would you not accommodate an emergency mental health situation? Do you not have a mental health section in your emergency part of the hospital? Or a mental health ward? Doesn't seem right
@@Leleche We do have a mental health section, but not enough nurses/drs to safely staff it :/ they would likely be refered to outpatient services on a waiting list
@@Leleche 'Murika sucks balls when it comes to mental health care. A senile old man named Reagan pretty much defunded the mental health care system in the 80s, destroying 'Murika in the process, and it's never recovered.
They are reliving her babies death.....
Really great show. This show is very well made. This is my next show to binge watch.
This is so sad..Dr is very nice man to pretending that Sarah is alive not doll and helping women.Her husband too..:(
I know real simiral cases like that and this is heartbreaking:(
What’s funny is, quite a few years back, there was a french documentary about a teenager who also had dolls like that and treated them like real babies, and the mother lowkey looks like an older version of that girl. I bet the people who wrote that episode saw that documentary
Why those hospital staff sound like police 😂
lol, the mom is the girl from a Chicago PD episode where she’s the baby-mama of a guy who committed Arson to a guy who posed as a CI. this was right after Voight’s son, Justin, died. 😆
Well that got me tears rollin'
Thank you for sharing and therefore helping me understand. ♥️
Oh wow, very sad very moving 😢 I have tears in my eyes.
That was so powerful
I kind of low key, want a reborn doll. Just because me and my husband are child free. I don't ever want to be a real mom, or have kids. But sometimes I have that parenting feeling just because of nature. Lol and it be fun to pretend sometimes, just to get over that or to experience a little bit of what other people my age might be going through haha.
understandable, i foster animals lol
Definitely don’t get one because you’re gonna have an unnatural attachment to a fake child
I’d say go for it! And if you do really enjoy being a parent then maybe you and your husband need to have a chat about having real kids. Otherwise if you still don’t want kids, you have a baby you can pretend with every once in a while. I don’t see any downside to it 😊
@@Bibblesupremacy1992 if she doesnt want kids, its not hurting anything but she needs to put up bounderies
@@dressageandalusian being childfree is okay not every couple wants them
Dude wasn't even trying 😑: you're the mother you decide
Is this the same actress as the one who played the mother who couldn't feel pain? (She does a great job though!)
Heartbreaking story.....
Glad you’re posting
yay! these videos are amazing
I’ve got a reborn and they are so so so so realistic but I haven’t seen someone so obsessed with one
"My baby needs help"
No I think you do
Really sad. Nothing wrong with reborns, even not when you act like they're real sometimes. But this, really sad. :'(
The lady must have lost her real baby to get a reborn
Imagine the bill this lady’s gonna get for a doll lmao.
They would only be allowed to bill for the human, the doll would not be charged costs. So the doctors would do this off their own backs. In reality, most doctors would shove her off.
Actually, the doll costs nothing to they, the doll have pill? Water? Food? The tubes machines and real health treatment? NO, the only thing she get was a little empty bed with no machine.The only one getting treatment was the mom, who was really hurt outside but more hurt inside. All they had to do was play the game and say the "baby" was getting the medicine and all that.
@@AngelEmfrbl I believe not, I prefer believe they would call parents to get her a psychiatric treatment.
That's sad. Imagine getting a bill for going to a hospital, it's madness. The U.S. will literally charge you for having a medical emergency 🤯
i cant imagine her pain
Im crying 😢😢😢
Why wouldn't they get the surgery??? It was there one chance to save the kiddo.
I think the mother knew on some level that it wouldn’t do anything for a doll, she was trying to use the situation to have a say, get closure, and finally say goodbye to her baby
Maybe if all the Money sent to corporations could be used for the betterment of the American people, there could be compassionate and caring Hospitals again. Just a Thought
The clip: *Really emotionally draining, sad moment, as a grieving mother finally gets a chance to say goodbye to her baby and begin the healing process*
Overly enthusiastic end screen music: *Starts suddenly*
I know I really shouldn't but I always laugh at moments like that, when something really sad is happening and its suddenly interrupted by the end card lmao
Loved this
This is so sad.
So do they have to arrange a pretend funeral too?
I felt so embarrassed when it was a doll 😭
There’s a tv show from apple tv that has this exact premisse, it’s called Servant, and it was created by M. Night Shyamalan so its reeeal creepy
wow...just.......wow.
But what would have happened if the mother still wanted the surgery?
Omg no way man
Very nice video
If the situation were real, on the "slim chance" the operation would succeed, the mother would have insisted on the procedure, and rightly so.
Thats what you would do. Many more would not. There is no correct answer for all scenarios, simply different ones, and you saying "rightly so" is an deeply immature and highly disrespectful attack on those who do not wish undue suffering on those who might just pass quickly and peacefully.
You mean in TV series? Yeah sure, good drama with happy ending. In real life for one miracle story that gets spread around there are dozens tragedies people keep silient about.
Yeah, but we have to take into account that this woman's subconscious is trying to help her accept her daughter's death and finally grieve. She's reliving that scenario, and the only way out seems to be for her to say "no" to the surgery.
@@marvolom787 yes, although you do hear the occasional “cautionary tale” on the news.
@@jazzycat8917 I am just trying to imagine how this scenario would have concluded had the mother said yes to the operation. Would the team stage a mock operation and "pronounce" the "baby"? Is playing out delusional and psychotic scenarios a common psychiatric practice?
Back to real life, doctors take risks all the time, even with slim chances for success, and relatives often consider any fighting chance better than just "letting it go". Having said that, I would not wish this kind of decision on anyone.
Seems so easy if not in real life 😭
You can see the two different grieving processes and differences. The father doesn't like the idea of a doll and it hinders him from grieving properly and moving on but the mother needs it to cope and help her. Both are suffering.