REACTION: Criminals vs. Cops Jubilee Middle Ground
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Today I’m reacting to a Jubilee debate between cops and criminals on questions like whether cops should carry guns, police brutality, rights of criminals, and whether policing is even necessary in the first place. Let’s get into it.
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0:00 - Intro
2:00 - Cops Should Not Carry Guns
26:11 - Police Violence Is Blown Out of Proportion
53:18 - Committing a Crime Is Never Justified
1:03:05 - Superchats!
"That badge doesn't give you the right to carry a gun around." You're right, the 2nd amendment does.
I was thinking the same thing!
Normalize bringing guns to work 😂😂😂 as someone who could never lol
@@SpicyPlurThere are actually plenty of us who carry at work, myself included. We either keep it put away at our desk or in our vehicles. Texas y’all 😅
ETA: We carry at the company I work for. But definitely respect establishments that choose not to allow any firearms.
@@reynitadelsuryeah I don’t respect any of those establishments rules because criminals don’t care. So I just conceal I never ever not have a gun on me. Even the gym
I love that he said that after saying his 2A right gives him the right to carry lmao like bro your so contradictory 😅
It's important to remember that all police officers are human beings! Convicts are also human beings! There is going to be good and bad in any group of humans
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Convicts are proven in a court of law to be bad though...🤔
Yea a lot of people these days get this wrong in many ways.
Great comment
That's what I've been saying when the left is claiming that all Republicans are racist. And then they claim religion is so bad because there's priest raping kids.
Every walk of life has good and bad in it, there is no exception to that.
I get your point but aren't police officers need to be good rather than bad?
My mom was once arrested for a warrant, and the officer let her drop her car off and see her kids before taking her in for like 3hrs. He was very respectful to her. I wish people would understand not every officer has the same mentality, and is rude. Yes some come off rude, but the faster you do what they want, the faster you can be away from them.
Sorry.. I hope all of that makes sense! 😊
Exactly. Sometimes you gotta just sit this one out🤣
The problem is the videos that go viral and get traction are the bad interaction. The countless good interactions daily are for the most part ignored. Like any profession your gonna have good or bad people in it.
For the first prompt - A state trooper pulled over a man for not having a license plate on their car. The trooper noticed the man had a gun in his jacket and was reaching to grab it so he pulled out his gun. He was taken in and was later found out to be the Oklahoma terrorist Timothy McVeigh who just blew up the Oklahoma federal buildings. This just shows how scary normal instances can be. Police need to be prepared for ANY instance. They go threw training for years! My father has been a cop for 30 years and is still getting training. These people are being redundant. Thank you Officer Charles Hanger for doing your job right.
can't give sense to criminals. they always try to find way to justify their crimes, blame the police, and talk shit without any logic.
I remember that. The shock waves knock the pictures off my walls and bowed my windows.
On October 20th 2002 I was on my way to the Ashland Virginia ponderosa to celebrate my birthday. If I would have been there moments earlier I might have been shot by the DC sniper.
Cop: "Excuse me, armed criminal, would you mind waiting about 20 minutes? I'd like to call for backup."
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I would just say as the cop.
'ive never had a conversation with someone so delusional, that I kindly will stop communicating with you' I'm free to keep a conversation with the other people but you're either a troll, or you have a mental condition. Either way this ends here.
Dude in the denim is projecting HARD. You can tell he's feeling a certain way about getting caught and now he has a record. No one did that to him but himself. Nobody made him into a felon/criminal. He did. There's always a way.
Lol I actually have not been back to jail in over 15 years I’m a successful rapper and business owner and I advocate heavily against ABUSE not just police but abuse by cops y’all missing the point here
The thing is: why you act like it doesn’t happen? Cuz it doesn’t happen to you?????? There’s billions of hours of video featuring cops fucking with regular every day humans there’s documented records back to 1700s like why are you so liable to turn the other way???? Wait til it happens to you tho just wait
I watched this before watching Amala’s reaction, and I would believe that Charlie is the guy that has a normal encounter with Police and escalates it to the point of being arrested and than proceeds to accuse of being wrongfully arrested.
I also watched it prior, and I completely agree. He went into this for the shake of an argument and has zero logic to his points. He is all contempt.
Yeah, basically. Bro has no chill😂
Lol I actually have been paid for all my “wrongful arrests” and honestly it takes a whole INTERNAL AFFAIRS investigation and for them to award me money is somewhat a key to telling you I’ve been harrassed 😉
But standing up for the rights of not just myself but people including YOU is escalating ????? I guess not everyone is a coward like you that just zips up and follows when a badge shows up? Must be a sad world you live in if you have to be a sheep and all it takes is a badge to put you out of character …. Where’s father and how bad of a job did he do raising you lol it shows
@@Charlieb714 I've seen court cases in which the asshole wins. Winning doesn't make someone not an asshole.
Some of those ex-cons had the absolute worst arguments I've ever heard
Facts. Proved their point😆
lol they only reinforced the stereotype that all criminals are dumb lowlives
They want their rights to be felons! “I have my rights to do whatever the hell I want!” Is what I’m hearing…
Which just shows that they didn’t learn anything from their time. There are plenty of ex cons who realize they were doing something wrong and helped themselves. They don’t blame officers for their choices.
Didn’t finish high school energy
Dude - you’re literally the only human I can tolerate online these days.
Libertarian here. All I have to say is “ex criminals if you don’t plan on recommitting crimes why do you care so hard if they have a gun?”
True true and tbh if you plan on commit a crime of course you would want cops with guns
I get it though, if you don't trust police, you'll always assume the worst. And turn every situation worse than it needs to be.
Because cops oppress White people. I am White and I have to carry every day just incase some racist pig comes at me. Always STAND YOUR GROUND, White People. The cops hate your skin colour!!
I’d assume because cops violate the law and constitution constantly.
Yeah I agree! And I have one arrest/felony on my record:( stupid mistake when I was 18-19 🥲 I’ve turned my life around tho. I also would like to learn gun safety and carry a gun as-well but I think in my state of jersey if you e been to a mental health facility even once voluntarily you can’t carry which makes no sense! I hate it. I’d like to be able to go to shooting ranges and protect myself if need be :/
the moment amala starts putting together how absolutely dumb charlie is brings me to tears 😂. dude is the textbook reason of why cops exist
For real lol. Even just trying to talk to that dude is just a wasted effort
Sorry but he is not dumb. I know him personally and granted his answers may not have been text book worthy, he in fact was wrongfully attested because of his race. I witnessed it first hand and I have friends that are cops but until you have been in any of their shoes insulting a person and calling them dumb you have no room to speak. He definitely does speak more from an emotional place and he is extremely smart when it comes to his knowledge of law. But like I said you have No idea what Charlie or any of these people went through so keep your insulting comments to a minimum.
What brings me to tears is I got paid to express my opinions about pigs and you all just talking shit for free 😊 but you’re still talking about me 😉
@@jeanniecampbell3413 He was still pretty dumb lol. Keep crying about it tho.
@@jeanniecampbell3413 nope he's definetly dumb bad things can happen to dumb people.
“You’re judging me when you see me with a badge” “that comes from her experience” but if a police pulls a gun because similar situations have gone wrong then it’s a catastrophe. You can’t have both. You can’t expect the cop to treat you with a fresh slate if you approach him as a villain. Approach with an open mind and a clean slate ON BOTH SIDES citizens and police
Hold on!, aren't these people ex-cons? And they are telling us the police need to make different life choices to help society? Isn't that textbook ironic!!!
Exactly. This episode is so ironic.
That went right over your head.
It's okay, it happens to the best of us.
We’re actually people we actually still have rights ! Some of us have been off probation off parole out of trouble and still F’d with on a regular basis … where do we draw the line? Where does it end ? You say stupid stuff like “move out” “change how you look” …. WHY???? I’m free I’m a free man with rights and I shouldn’t have to be subject to shit !
@@Charlieb714 your past matters and being a convict makes you instantly not trustworthy. You made your bed now you lay on it. Good luck on your journey you have work to do! God bless you!
@Pink Curls how are you going to say God bless you and be so fucking vindictive. Jesus's whole thing was forgiveness and rehabilitation. It is so contradictory that it is mind-boggling.
I think that the actual police departments would absolutely love to be able to weed out those bad apples, but it's primarily the unions that protect and prevent them from being fired. (Same thing for teachers and other government workers)
These advocates and SJWs always blindly support unionization and collectivism, but turn a blind eye to the role that those unions play in keeping bad people in these roles.
Great point. Unions keep all people in their jobs, not just the good ones.
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Any sensible union takes care of its own -- including the bad apples -- or else the business they rely on collapses.
It isn't the 'unions', it's the collective attitude of not squealing on another cop. The whole system is corrupt - those who are corrupt and those who know those who are corrupt are corrupt themselves by association.
Yes, and bad teachers same same.
Police brutality has been blown WAY out of proportion.
Agreed! I'm damn sick of it.
Says the race that doesn't get harassed and harmed,I really wish you guys could be black for a couple of days
The ignorance is truly sad
The funny thing is that if they get their way then the country will instantly be way worse off. Imagine how bad things can get without anyone pushing back.
Most people can see that. I’m across the pond and can see that. The stats are also out there for people to see.
Don’t think for one second that everyone believes police brutality is as bad as it is made out to be (No denial that some cops will have that mentality but by no stretch does that apply to most). Looks like another push for your guns from here… unarmed cops, no need for an armed population. Criminals will never give up their guns.
That is just how the left likes to do things. The far left has destroyed this country but at the same time think they are the morality police. They know what's right for everybody.
I just really hope enough people wake up before the election
As someone who’s both been to prison and who’s uncle was an officer most of my adolescent life, I wish i could interject into this conversation. Realistically every state needs a stand your ground law, whether cop or citizen there should be no legal repercussions for defending yourself.
After the 3 most recent shootings where people were shot for turning around in a driveway or ringing a doorbell to the wrong house, I think people need to be further educated on what "Stand your ground" means.
@@brittanym7536 I’m referring to instances of proven self defense. For example 2 blocks from where i worked in downtown Jax.Florida, there was a case where a 16 year old kid (to young to legally carry a gun) was approached by two other men, an argument broke out and one of the group of 2 drew a gun and attempted to fire on the 16 y/o. Fortunately for the young kid the gun jammed and in that time he was able to draw and fire his own. The 16 y/o was arrested, detained, and released hours later with no charges because even situation of him carrying the gun would not have been revealed had his life not been at risk. The entire event was caught on near by security cameras. I believe it was 2017 on mlk day at the Jacksonville landing if you wanted to look it up. I personally think its a perfect depiction of how stand your ground laws should be applied
@@brittanym7536 Those cases aren't a result of "stand your ground" laws. Those cases aren't exactly unique either, and I have no idea why the media is acting like they are. As a former police officer, I've had to deal with those kinds of cases several times. But I do agree that people who carry a firearm for protection need to really truly understand how the self defense laws work, inside and out. And I will say that the majority of citizens I know who carry are fairly knowledgeable. Most people who carry are already interested in and involved in 2A issues, and do take the time and put in the effort to properly train, and educate themselves on the laws pertaining carrying a firearm and using one in self defense. But there are definitely those few out there who don't, and who have no business carrying a firearm at all. They don't represent the majority, but they do exist.
@@taeworldcj6998 I agree 100%. I've heard of that case too. And that's exactly the kind of situation where using a gun to defend yourself would be 100% justified. As a former corrections officer and police officer, I believe that every state should have Constitutional Carry and Stand Your Ground laws.
@@mattjack3983 there’s also a notable difference from living in chicago and Jacksonville. Far more often the news in Jacksonville was similar to the previous story, but in Chicago it’s often the opposite. Because someone messed up young usually due to gang related problems, in such a strict city they can’t legally carry and for a felon to carry is a 5 year minimum at the state level.
So more often than not even reformed gang members who try to help their communities post incarceration still become victims of mindless retaliation because they couldn’t defend themselves, or they do defend themselves but end up doing atleast the 5 for having the gun regardless of self defense.
My thoughts exactly. Why has she encountered hundreds of officers?
I’m 15 and you’ve inspired me to be educated on a lot of wrong that’s been going on in my generation. I love your vids and I always look forward to watching all the lives after school. Love from ny❤️❤️
Your choice in UA-cam channels tells me you are an amazing young person!!! We need more younger people like you!!
Welcome brother
I would not recommend that. You'll be exposed as life exposes it to you, there's really no reason to "be educated on everything wrong that's been going on" IMO. It's unhealthy. I recommend an organic approach where you actually tune out, off technology, and discover who and what you're passionate about naturally. You won't understand because your brain is not done developing, but all this exposure effects you "invisibly" (you won't see it). It's not healthy imprinting when it's fed to you and you're just under the spotlight getting fried. Trust me, detach.
@@tylernol1566 so all 15 year olds should be uneducated and have no clue what’s going on in the world? Ok
Amala is a cop sniffer. She claims to be an Atheist Libertarian, yet comes off in this video like a christ-cuck kosher CONservative. Stand with the People, Amala!! ACAB
In regards to casting, this was Jubilee's worst Middle Ground episode, as one side was completely unwilling to come to a middle ground and was just there to be argumentative and combative. They wanted complete empathy, but only for them.
Surprise. I bet if they got ex-cons who actually were respectful individuals and tried to be remorseful and use their incarceration as the lesson it's intended to be, the conversation would be much more nuanced and productive. But that episode wouldn't get enough clicks, of course
@@frankcaggiano8282 exactly
They should have got christina randall on here!
Not sure which way this comment goes. But just speaking generally, cops don't have rights, and so tgese racist cops need to shut up and take it.
@@ReverendLloyd Criminals are more racist than cops
“You guys are four out of hundreds of police officers” 😂 It didn’t occur to her that if she’s getting pulled over hundreds of times, some introspection might be in order?
You can hear the trauma and resentment in their voices, they seem genuinely traumatised. Both sides make valid points based on their anecdotal experiences
Charlie was annoying.
Cops are racist liars. I will never side with these oppressors of the People.
Im a former felon (13 years ago) and it's a traumatizing experience, but you can't make laws and regulations based on anecdote. You have to look at data, and the data is on law enforcement's side. Police brutality is not nearly as pervasive as the left wants us to think. If there is legitimate police brutality, (and even sometimes not legitimate) they are 99.9% of the time fired and often times charged with a crime.
charlie making actual points? nah, you probably didn't watch the whole video.
I feel so bad for that woman. What she went through was horrific.
I feel like when it comes to positions of power and authority, it’s inevitable that you’re gonna have a few bad eggs in the carton.
Having said that; anyone that abuses their position of power needs less privilege (hoops in process) to avoid accountability.
Years ago when all of this “cops are bastards” bs started I got attacked for saying “there are bad people in every race, religion, environment and job”.
At the time my bf was a cop and not a great person, that’s why he’s an ex, but 95% of my family is in law enforcement or military, 90% of those family members are amazing people and amazing at their job.
It’s disgusting that every LEO is branded as “ACAB” yet the people will scream it will still use them.
I’m a group I’m in a woman literally said “I mean ACAB but you should probably call the cops on this one” they’re so warped and can’t see the stupidity in any of their ideology.
It blows my mind that some people are so willing to give up given rights, Constitutional rights! They'll say they don't trust authorities and the Gov't, but in the same breathe are willing to give away rights to them. Insane.
Denim jacket guy clearly just has an ego which makes him resentful towards authority so it's futile to try to argue with him. He thinks he's right about everything and should be allowed to do whatever he wants without consequences. A lot of people have this problem. It would have worked several thousand years ago before any sort of real society was established, but you're living in 2023, dude. You either follow the law or deal with the outcome of your actions.
I live in Sweden and a friend of mine is a cop. I believe many people with the argument points to Sweden and Norway and UK maybe etc when talking about cops without guns. My friend assures me her gun is always on her person when she's working. Even in sweet little Sweden. Maybe they don't need to use them as often but then again - Unless you're a hunter you cannot own a gun in Sweden and hunters have strict regulations when it comes to their usage of said gun and can't just walk the streets with it. Very different from the US. I understand why cops in the US need guns and also why cops in Sweden need guns, there are crazy people out there.
True for Sweden, but some countries do indeed have less guns for the police
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom
The problem with the story about the woman being raped is when she says it happens a lot. That is a throw away statement that tries to normalize all cops as rapists
Even when the cops aren't out of line people say they are.
ACAB
Facts.
The thing is: why you act like it doesn’t happen? Cuz it doesn’t happen to you?????? There’s billions of hours of video featuring cops fucking with regular every day humans there’s documented records back to 1700s like why are you so liable to turn the other way???? Wait til it happens to you tho just wait
The simplest answer for me is when people stop breaking the law then cops won't need guns. Bottom line.
Bonnie is the type of person who is deeply hurt over something in the past with authority &hasn’t healed.I believe she switches into a foul attitude when she engages with cops,& they probably respond BACK with that energy,& that confirms her biases with them.
The Efficacy of “De-Escalation Tactics” seems highly dubious to me. Maybe I’m just weird or something, but when I see people who are in the middle of an emotionally fraught situation and they are freaking out, if someone tries to intervene and attempt to get them to calm down, they have a tendency to react in the OPPOSITE manner and start freaking out even MORE, where they will lose their minds and say “STOP TELLING ME TO CALM DOWN!! I’M PERFECTLY CALM!!!”, and oftentimes, it just makes everything WORSE.
Imagine going into an unpredictable scenario where someone is armed and having a mental breakdown and trying to convince them to stop.
Keep spittin facts homie 💯
I agree in that sense, but I think it's a bit deeper than just "calming them down". That would be why any sort of tactic or method of de-escalation would require specialized training separate from normal police training, and might even require an entirely new profession composed of, essentially, a combination of officer and psychotherapist. A de-escalation official would need something far more convincing than just "chill, bro" haha
As a former corrections officer and police officer, you are 100% correct. De-escalation tactics have their place, and they are meant to be used to pacify a situation that is escalating to the point of becoming unmanageable. But I don't care how well trained you are in de-escalation, it's ALWAYS going to be hit or miss. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't. And more often than not, attempts at de-escalation DO tend to have the opposite effect in emotionally stressful and tense situations. Especially when there is some kind of mental health issue involved. It cannot be overstated how unpredictable the outcome will be when attempting to de-escalate a situation involving an emotionally and potentially mentally distraught individual. The very sound of your voice, or they way that your face looks, might be the thing that causes everything to go to shit. It's a miserably stressful job, and I don't miss it lol.
@@frankcaggiano8282 I’m sure that it would be a BIT more involved than I made it sound, and it would be a preposterous proposal if it DIDN’T entail a great deal of intensive training, so I would assume that it does. But I am still skeptical, nonetheless, about the notion that a Psychologist would have the desired effect of de-escalation, unless it is specifically a case of pure mental illness (at least, one in which the Individual in distress is still capable of listening to Reason, rather than completely detached from Reality). Because, in cases of apprehending a Criminal who is actively in the process of committing a crime in progress, or being picked up for a violent crime that they are suspected of committing, their Primary Motivation (regardless of what THEY might say, after the Fact, when they go back to trying to act like a Tough Guy again), in the heat of the moment, is the overwhelmingly paralyzing anxiety, dread, fear and loathing that comes with the prospect of an imminently-impending arrest, conviction and incarceration in your immediate future.
Even if they’ve been locked up before, when you find yourself in a situation where you are 100% certain that you aren’t going home tonight, and you might not even get to go back AT ALL, if you are remanded to custody, pending trial, and your future is indefinitely postponed and COMPLETELY out of your control, there is no telling WHAT someone might do, under those conditions, once they are backed into a corner, because they, essentially, NO incentive to cooperate, at that point, because the police aren’t going to just let them go, if they JUST fight hard enough.
In fact, I guarantee you that, in many of those infamous incidents of high-profile police shootings, their erratic and illogical behavior in the moments RIGHT before the shooting starts (i.e. charging, or attacking, or running from, the cops, or even trying to grab their guns), it is because their mind is being wracked by a ceaseless stream of panicked thoughts about the fact that there is NO way for them to escape their inevitable fate of getting locked inside of a tiny cage with violent strangers for an extended period of time, unless...
And so, in those final moments, they decide that even DYING would be preferable to the alternative option of going to prison.
Honestly, I don’t know if it is even possible to resolve that kind of situation with psychological intervention, because THAT isn’t the problem. The fact that the psychologist is accompanied by an officer of the law who is intent on putting them behind bars, is the aggravating factor that is responsible for raising the tensions to the point where it could, potentially, easily end in tragedy, in their desperate attempt to avoid being forced to face the consequences of their unlawful actions.
I’m not necessarily opposed to the notion of sending Psychologists out with the Police, and I don’t see a reason why We shouldn’t, at least, TRY to see how effective it is. I still have my doubts, but I’m perfectly willing to be proven wrong.
When I was a kid and I would have meltdowns my mum would use tactics to help calm me down and because they worked and I didn't want to calm down I would escalate my behaviour in order to stay angry and upset.
I have had a few encounters with county sheriffs. One gave me a ride to a phone when I was stranded (pre-cell phone era). Another time the sheriffcame to arrest me for hot checks I didn't know I had thanks to bank error. I was alone with my 2 young children. He allowed me to come into his office the next day to set up a payment schedule.
On the other hand I had one pull me over for no seatbelt because I wore the shoulder strap behind me (it was legal at the time because of my height). He was an utter jerk. I fought the ticket. He didn't even bother to show up in court so the judge dismissed it.
There are good cops and there are bad cops but the good usually outnumber the bad.
The thing is: why you act like it doesn’t happen? Cuz it doesn’t happen to you?????? There’s billions of hours of video featuring cops fucking with regular every day humans there’s documented records back to 1700s like why are you so liable to turn the other way???? Wait til it happens to you tho just wait
Mass shootings are not being blamed on ex-cons!
Most are staged, anyway.
I think you missed the analogy, I think the mass shootings came in when he was saying if you as an ex-con were in my shoes as a police officer what would you do in that situation that's why the mass shooting thing was brought up.
LMAOOOOO
@@johnanderson9403 If I was ever a cop I would sabotage the police from the inside.
Taking criminal justice courses really showed me what it was like in these situations. One of the required assignments for my course was “to shoot or not to shoot” and it showed the split second decisions that have to be made as a Cop to keep the community or themselves safe
A cop in my local community was performing a routine traffic stop and when he began to exit his vehicle they leaned out the window and shot him in the head before he was even able to fully exit his vehicle or approach the vehicle he pulled over. The man then ran and was later shot and k*lled. Without a weapon many more officers would have d*ed in the pursuit of this man.
Please do make a 2nd part! I would love to hear the discussion involved with the last of the jubilee debate
if civilians can have guns why can’t the police??
It takes a strong person to put aside their anecdotal experiences and look at a situation honestly.
You are VERY RIGHT.👍👍👍
What da prollem wit’ da breaks?💃🏽
I appreciate that this conversation is even happening. We have to find better ways to come together and have difficult conversations.
It doesn’t matter if regular citizens and cops are or are not allowed to carry guns by law. The thing that is always true is that those who break the rules/laws, a.k.a. Criminals, beak the rules and acquire guns or make guns or if not guns then other weapons. So it ends up that criminals WILL have guns/weapons and WILL use them against the others. So then the rest of us have no defense.
Exactly. You are 100% correct. As a former corrections officer and police officer, I can attest that this is beyond all doubt TRUE. Even in places like the UK, where it is damn near impossible for citizens to own guns, and completely illegal for citizens to carry them, your statement is true. My grandmother was from London, and I have a bunch of family there who I visit as often as I can. Guns are indeed scarce in the UK. But guess where they are not scarce? In the UKs criminal underground. Oftentimes when there is an armed and violent criminal, even the police who show up to arrest him are completely useless and ineffective, because the majority of the police are not armed. They have to call in an "armed bobbie" (they call cops bobbies there) and wait for him to arrive before anything can be done. And knife crime is huge there, but most people already know that. What is less known is that they do have quite a few gun toting criminals. Basically it's a society where the ONLY people walking around with guns are the criminals. The main stream media there also actively covers up and attempts to hide the amount of gun related crimes that happen there too. As a former cop, I promise that if we made guns illegal here, and we took everyone's guns away, we would only be taking them away from the people who are law abiding citizens. Criminals, by definition, don't care what is illegal and what it isn't. That's why they are criminals. Taking away the right to own guns would only be rendering a population of law abiding citizens completely defenseless against the criminals who will still be armed.
I think there needs to be more psychological testing of candidates for becoming a police officer to weed out the type of people who are more likely to develop an ego and let there position go to there head and abuse there power. There are tons of videos on UA-cam of hot heads who treat the public terribly, and some officers who are so inept at there job I wonder how they got hired in the first place.
These people act like cuz it doesn’t happen to them it doesn’t exist
Most hiring processes do include a lie detector test and psych exam
@@mariannejones1148 the sad part is you can’t undergo a scumbag test before hiring … most of these pussies have a chip on their shoulder their ENTIRE LIVES and go into these jobs with a vengeance …. You really swear like because it don’t happen to you it doesn’t exist … the millions of videos online documenting police brutality is acted to you??????
this has to be one of my favorite podcasts
The fact that they even gave the “criminals” a voice is the real problem.
Indeed
Shows how godless america has becane
People shouldn't need a God to be a law-abiding citizen.
How so? Explain
Let the Cops stay home for a month and see what happens....😁
Fuck tge racist pigs defund them all. I open carry and don't need some racist criminal cartel member in a blue paramilitary uniform to protect me from his own racism!! Always stand your ground when its just one or two pigs!!
You can see that already in California and Detroit
@@LadyRathian ACAB
I’ve been to prison and am an ex-con, I am able to vote, never voted till after prison. Don’t think it’s a federal law, must depend on the state. I’ve also been pulled over numerous times for speeding after prison and have not had 1 single bad experience with the cops. I show them respect and own up the reason I was stopped and mostly only ever got warnings. I have no problems with the police for being an ex-con, I usually thank them for their service when I see one in person. Someone’s gotta govern this insanity
Yeah, if you’re having issues of respect with every single cop you ever encounter….mayyybbbbeeee you’re not being as respectful as you think you are. Mayyybbbbeee it’s a you problem, not a cop problem
I commented this before she said she’d had hundreds of encounters with officers 🤦🏻♀️ definitely a her problem
My uncle is a cop, here in SA, Cape Town. I can imagine how his wife would feel seeing her husband going to work and not coming back because he went out without a firearm. He has a 7-year-old at home. I'm trying to say that there are bad cops but there are good ones too, like my uncle and I don't want my cousin to not have a father because he went to work without a firearm. What happens if someone puts a gun to his face and...yeah, you know. What then...
Guns are needed, to be used responsibly but also to keep them out of harm's way. I mean if the convicts know this cop has a gun maybe they won't try and...yeah, you know...him.
I don't know...as someone who has a cop in the family, I know how my grandparents, my mom, his wife, and his kid would feel losing him because he couldn't protect himself.
It's hilarious hearing an ex-con say; Why are you a police officer, you just want to abuse your power, go clean oceans... like, my guy, YOU are the reason we need police officers. Really can't make this shit up
This was interesting, but why hasnt a single person so far said, DONT DO THE CRIME! Ugh.
They’re busy being defensive of their personal experiences bro💁🏽♂️
Im from Ireland. Our Garda do not carry guns because it is illegal for the general public to carry guns so the risk is low. We have a special force that can carry guns but they are called out in extreme circumstances. With every person in America able to easily access a gun you cannot disarm the police.
Even if someone wanted to implement a "special forces" only for access to carry a gun, every single beat cop in the USA would simply do what was necessary to qualify for special forces and carry a gun.
So what I'm hearing at around 50:00 is that it's fine for people to profile/categorize the police and react to the uniform as if all cops were the same ('bad'). Many elements of society have already had massive screaming fits about being categorized, but then they do it, it's fine?
Traffic stops are some of the most deadly calls
Why is that what they want to do 90% of the time then? If that's the case they wouldn't act like road pirates.
Because it is so easy to become a felon today, is the reason i believe all rights should be restored eventually after time served. It might need to include after parole/probation, maybe even like a bankruptcy, 10 yrs. But someone who had stayed clean after serving should eventually get everything back.
As a former corrections officer and police officer, I absolutely 100% agree with this.
Yeah, if I’m not mistaken a lot of mass shooters have no criminal history. Not sure how that makes ex-cons look bad😂
So happy y’all are growing enough to put minimums on super chats to be read. So awesome!
"So how do you think the felons feel?" - spayed coffee on my monitor at that.
I love how you said that prison time is serving your time… however, I DO think felons should be able to get their rights back after so many years of no additional charges. 7, 10, 15 or even 20 years. Ppl CAN change and their rights to be able to defend themselves shouldn’t be permanently taken away. As an ex felon myself, these ex felons have horrible arguments.
I can't understand why felons can't vote. They should never have the right revoked but I can understand taking guns depending on the crime and usually get the second amendment back.
As someone who has gone through the crime scene subreddit a few times (the first time out of absolute morbid curiosity while researching the Black Dahlia case, the second being an update on a case that was really old and was gaining traction again)
I can’t imagine seeing half the things I’ve seen on that forum in real life. Its surreal to see these gruesome deaths through a screen. One of the crime scenes I saw was a cartel murder that was so gruesome I thought that one of the pictures wasn’t even real.
I promise that *no average human being* would be happy to see these things in real life.
I would. Love that horror shit!!
A police officer is called or does a traffic stop without knowledge of how the interaction will come out and could die at any time because of their uniform and her expectation sweets and honey? However, the lady with a chip on her shoulder automatically expects to be treated poorly. Could that mean that no matter how the cop acts, it's disrespectful?
I'd be willing to wager that she will feel disrespected and mistreated no matter how any police officer she has to deal with treats her. I swear, I've dealt with so many people exactly like that myself, on pretty much a daily basis, during my time working as a police officer. No amount of politeness or courtesy is good enough for those kinds of people. Just the very fact that you as a police officer even looked their way, is taken as disrespect and harassment by those kinds of people.
Definitely a part 2. Great video as always!
12:33 “call for back up” backup with no gun either “😳” 😂😂😂
One of my only issues with the police officer of him constantly bringing up sandy hook and instead of just using more examples. Kinda seem like a weak example.
Agreed, that's about the worst possible, most catastrophic example where cops need to be armed. They simply need to be armed while carrying out their day to day duties, never knowing when a situation is going to go bad.
To counter that, the people he's disagreeing with cannot and will not see the ordinary circumstances as reasonable. The mere fact that Americans have a right to a firearm gives weight to having armed police. In the UK we don't have armed general police, we have a special unit because 90%+ of us don't have firearms. The armed police are often called to bomb threats and situations where illegal firearms are being used or threatened. We don't have to have armed police because a taser can often do the job you need it to in an armed (with a weapon not a gun) situation.
@@Onyxxu20 i get the point he was trying to make and most ppl don't respond to clearly horrific events like that when talking about guns. When the person who disagrees sees your making a extreme case they'll deny it because there not relating to it. He lived in California he should of been talking more about cartels. That would of been way more effective.
Can definitely sense some pent up aggression too. Like the conversation could’ve escalated if the cameras weren’t there💀
He ran out of stuff to say! Had no substance … the demeanor he gives off I can’t believe he’s still a cop he seemed agro AF and trigger happy in person
"And the problem wit tha...." There, I narrated your missing intro vid 😘
Is that what it says? Never knew the words! 🤣
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Those so called "former" criminals seem to want a world where they are the ultimate aggressors in their future crimes.
Kudos on the the Doctor analogy Amala, point well made! Some of these Jubilee moment make you want to jump through the screen and say your peace.
Criminals vs cops…that’s a bit redundant.
How about these people stop blaming law enforcement for arresting them. For arresting them after they broke the law in some way.
Amala is my favorite commentator, she's respectful, tries to fully undertand the opposing side, and never responds with anger. We need more Alamas in this world and I'm thankful to have her as someone I look up to be.
Hello Amala! I just discovered your channel on Monday and have veen binge watching ever since. Love your content! It is so refreshing to see such a young person like yourself actually have common sense and speak out against all the stupidity out there now.
I am not sure that jean jacket guy understood some of the statements that he walked forward on.
Amazing work!
I love watching jubilee with you. Way more fun with your commentary. I was watching this episode alone and then came across this one and decided to finish it with you guys 💯❤️
it is interesting that the "con"s all used every trick to trap the cops. the cops listened to the prompt and agreed that some laws need room for exception and the con's got mad and accused the cops of not being lawful! looking back on the prompts and answers, the same thing happened every question. it is mind blowing that after listening to the cop's reasoning the con's took the opposite view on purpose . so blind and un-lawful.
As a paramedic who worked in EMS, I would not feel safe with unarmed police. People are scary and unpredictable. I can empathize with convicts who feel disadvantaged and do not believe they would hurt someone (be mindful there are various reasons people are imprisoned). However, there are people in the world who are scary and as a person who has seen people at their worst and as a person who believes everyone has a breaking point, I would want my officers and those who they protect to be able to defend themselves if things go wrong... because (believe me) things can go wrong.
Lol everything is recorded…. But they can mute it, turn it off, claim it was lost etc, charge you $100+, keep you from getting it because of “ongoing investigations”, etc etc etc. Body cams are a joke.
I love what you do for us. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Amala
Thank you for presenting this topic.
The EX CONS! All irritated me and not a single one made any valid points! Especially the bald lady and the Asian lady oh the Jean jacket guy was full of soy
It was incredibly aggravating
Pig sniffer.
There are times when even multiple tasers and multiple cops on some drugged crazed guy isn't fazed by anything! I say throw these people into some of these situations and try to "talk" or wrestle someone down as someone is trying to kill them. Bet they'll change their minds REAL quick! 🙄
Charlie works for the FEDS 😂
I mean … they’ve paid me out for the officers wrongs I might as well be on payroll 😉 but I’m paid y’all just talking shit to talk lol losers
In the military annual psychological assessments as well as psychological assessments for new enlistments are REQUIRED maybe if psychological assessments were part of the background check process that would help at least moving forward.
This conversation is not cut and dry. Ex-cons do deserve a better pathway to a normal life again and police need more/better options and support in general for the randomness in career. Both are trying to live in a chaotic world but sadly the vocal minority don't want to give either the benefit of the doubt. its easy to say "treat each other like humans" but thats a base level of thought that holds little weight against the anecdotal experiences. Jubilee overall has gotten way better in setting up these conversations. More companies could learn a thing or two when you get the "average" person to talk about their opinions.
Part 2 please :)
I laughed too hard when the second ad came on 😅 really loving Amalas channel lately! And idk why but I wasn't subscribed.. when I watch the vids everyday, but I am subscribed now 😊
You definitely need to do a part two of that one.
Amala, make the claim. I'm 58. I've ridden sportbikes (150 mph +) for over 40 years. I've been known to drive fast. I have been pulled over many times. I have never been arrested. I have never been in cuffs. Anyone that has had hundreds of encounters with cops is doing something wrong. Some might say it's because I'm white, but my best friend for 35 years is black. He is the closest thing to off the grid of anyone I know. He's never had a computer. He's never made more than 40k in a year. He has also never been arrested. BTW, if my kid was starving and I needed to lift some food to feed them, I would do that. I say it's justified to break (especially minor) laws under some circumstances.
The thing is: why you act like it doesn’t happen? Cuz it doesn’t happen to you?????? There’s billions of hours of video featuring cops fucking with regular every day humans there’s documented records back to 1700s like why are you so liable to turn the other way???? Wait til it happens to you tho just wait
Love from Philippines!
I know the video is in the context of America but the first prompt is never going to work well here in my country (or any place at all), especially the southern part where I live in. It's littered with terrorist groups and my city has been subjected to bombings and bomb threats throughout different points in time. Til this day, there are heavy security surrounding previously bombed areas alongside any areas that get heavily crowded (mind you these areas are churches and parks, areas that you dont usually see militaries surveying about constantly, and of course the roads meeting the city bounderies). The guy just saying that police shouldnt be armed is just plain crazy to me. Sure we also have shares of police brutality here, but I would rather have them still armed because it's obviously more dangerous if they weren't. It's either he has lived quite a prvilieged life or plain he's delusional.
Taylor's "That's generous" 😂😂😂😂
LOVE YOU, AMALA
Growing up i was a pain in the ass with way to big of an attitude. I've had many arrests, way to many chances to interact with Police officers. I have never had a negative interaction.
I watched this episode on jubilee and then rewatched on unapologetic. I wanted to see the reaction
It is obvious the ex cons don't know how to have a civil debate about a sensitive topic. They all reacted first with emotion. Bonnie couldn't stop crying the entire time, and the boy with the denim refused to allow any one else to speak while simultaneously making senseless arguments.
The way Bonnie waved her hands in the air when the plaid shirt guy chanted FTP shows us Bonnie is not accountable like she says she is, but still hasn't grown up.
Like Jordan Peterson says, become the monster and learn to keep that under control. The bald gentleman said he learned crime tactics in prison and used them when he got out. As if he had no choice? Unless you have low EQ you will then learn monstrous ideas only to become a villian.
This was a hard watch when I watched it by myself lol
We need the rest of the reaction video 🙏👏👏
I’m surprised that no one in the beginning brought up the fact that cops have the right to bear arms as well. Everyone has the right to bear arms who is a citizen in this country. If we took away the cops right to have a fire arm then it should be taken away from everyone not just them.
That makes zero sense. Agents of the state don't have rights as they are oppressors. Stand your ground always against one or two racist pigs!!
I really do empathize alot with sexual assault victims... I can understand the terror and the rage.
We also mustn't allow pain to blind our judgment either, and not reflect such a heinous act on actual good cops. I don't even think the uniform was the problem - just the gun. I think the uniform just planted a negative seed, that causes bad perception to ALL cops, and that's not fair nor a righteous judgment... it's not right to stereotype and scapegoat many, for the sins of one or a few, based on "triggers" we might experience to no fault of anyone but the actual disgusting vile perps. Cops must work to stop human trafficking, which involves criminals empowered with gunpower. They need guns.
My heart goes out to this woman because I know how painfully writhing the anger must be. But we must get justice for you (if you hadn't gotten it), because Justice will bring peace.
But let us not scapegoat the innocent for the sins of others. That's something I also experienced for myself, as someone who was scapegoated until I met the Reverend... and even now, it seems they continue in their ways, but God will always be my Mighty Defender.
You never met me? Plus, ACAB.
The good apple theory is a myth.
Think your very wise with great humor .
Appreciate your good work
Almost 21 YEARS of dealing with the active 3 felony warrants from my sister using my name in Detroit in 1998. I was arrested in 1999 and they released me after 9 hrs of them running my prints twice. In all i had all the proof of my innocence I had to take w me everywhere in case i was pulled over. It was a nightmare. Mostly the cops were total assholes. I woke up to us Marshalls w guns pointed at my head. Too many times to type on here where they were horrible. My sister is also 7 inches taller than me and got my birthday wrong and Detroit cops still didnt wonder or run her prints in the system. Due to this all.i was accused of a theft i didnt commit because of the Warrents from that. I proved my innocence there, too. Things like what I went through w ill color your feeling on cops. In 2022 it was taken off my name but they didn't persue my sister. Had they run her prints the 3 times she was arrested under my name and not allowed her to bond out,they could've prosecuted her And taken it out of my name . I distrust all cops and i don't speak to my sister.
As someone from Europe, the police and guns question is pretty simple.
If civilians don't have guns easily, police are much more at ease and feel safe as well as the civilians. There's more trust in police than anger
Yeah exactly. When it's only a small number of black market guns it's fine to have non-armed normal police, with armed response units where necessary. The US has something stupid like 500 millions guns. Of course the cops need to be armed. Credit to the two ex convicts who didn't step forward. They know it's dangerous out there.
I’ve heard a lot of stories of cops either being called for emergencies just to find out it was a trap. Or them being in their police car just sitting there and getting shot.
Love u Amala! ❤
The UK cops didn't use guns for a long time there community was good with it but when other people came along it was a problem.... If it not with in yr culture then you can't be expected to go with the Ida of no guns .
While most of our police do not carry, as majority of the population do not carry (So it is unnecessary for most to carry). We have always had an armed police unit that get called in for situations involving possible firearms (Legal or illegal).
We just have special units for specific things.