My mate was there and reckons Eric Morcambe knelt down behind him and Earnie pushed hi over and the pair of them ran away doing some weird sorta dance whilst singing something about the sunshine.
Given that he wasn't the brightest man I'm willing to bet he made some bad decisions about the amount of juice he took. Trouble is when he saw the results it's very hard to come off it & I bet he even took more. Even pro bodybuilders screw up & lose livers or die. Coming off the sauce is not so easy because it's also a mental turmoil as well as hormonal. Guys like McLean love to be the "man" & the biggest most feared thug in town. He didn't know anything else in his sad life. I certainly wouldn't worship any other man especially not a bully boy thug.
@@Mans1910 Yeah obviously if you take blows to the head then it's not good. Watch any documentary about boxing & brain injuries 😮 The brain gets punishment & it's very vulnerable soft material. Although the skull is immensely strong the brain is bounced around inside that's the problem. Later in life McLean was suffering, watch his last interviews.. his brain was a mush ... Mumbled like a retard.
Stop taking the plss. The worst tear up I witnessed was between Roy Shaw and Christopher Biggins. If Keith Harris and Orville hadn't been there to break it up, I dread to think of the bloodbath that would have ensued.
never take a plea deal on a sec18, that's the cops backdooring you, it is one off manslaughter and often carries a heavier sentence because you are admitting you deliberately wanted to cause it whereas manslaughter can be accidental, an old brief told me that years back,
Fair play: l didn’t know that Ernie Wise owned clubs and was a bit of a gangster in his spare time. I thought he would have been too busy for all that, what with doing all those shows with his partner Eric Morecambe. Tell me: did he “break into song” whilst he was attacking McLean and sing such ballads as “bring me sunshine” and “get my kicks, following you around.”
Lenny McLean was so weak in the end he couldn't even lift his own suitcase when he went on holiday. A sad end to one of the most frightening men London ever produced.
Lenny Mclean was in his late 40s when he died , he got put on his arse by golden Virginia. His arch rival, fitness fanatic, who never smoked & used to run 8 miles a day in his late 60s dies under air of secrecy and only years later it is said he died of heart failure .
Ernie wise was a gangster , the wises everyone in west London knows have proper pull . They ran it from Ladbroke Grove all the way to Heathrow . No one messed with there firm . Ernie was the boss he’s little nephew Kevin wise was a major drug dealer in the 90s and early 2000s,
Never worried me about who can do what good for them if there not for me I won’t talk to them wouldn’t be rude loyalty is something no one can take from ya be yourself say how it is it ether wrong or right good or bad be a nice person and let no one be your governor come on you Rs god save the king 🙏
Ernie wise wouldn’t fight lenny if he didn’t have 2 John wouldn’t think twice Iv none John all my life he never said anything bad about lenny Roy sure my dad was banged up with him in Lewis and he ripped the cell door off 🤷♂️anyway Johnny hanlon love you always will my dad and mum thought the world of you as do all my family just don’t ask to borrow my car 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ray Lenny got done for a slap police got away with murder and you look at the UK today fight against good and evil very very hard fight most probably the hardest ever are you up for the challenge
I could listen to Ray for hours, great stories told in a comforting old cockney accent, I’m addicted to this channel
I’m un addicted he’s full of shite
Same here. So many great stories
Stories ,and then there is truth and fact ,but it could all be right or not far from it,you know like you say
Nice one Ray i really enjoy your stories pal. You seem like a nice genuine old school guy and there's not may of you left. Respect!
I just cant see Ernie Wise fighting Lenny unless he was kicking him with his short fat hairy legs
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Bring me sunshine
My mate was there and reckons Eric Morcambe knelt down behind him and Earnie pushed hi over and the pair of them ran away doing some weird sorta dance whilst singing something about the sunshine.
@@27apotheosis😂👍
Lovely stuff Ray. I love the way you describe punches. Woop! Boomp! and my favourite Bang. Keep up the Great stories mucker.
It's so funny you tell Lenny's stories and get them wrong, as if he told you himself or you were there 😂
Lenny was a smoker. He probably started when he was 10 years old. I think that was responsible for the cancer, rather than the steroids.
And being in smoky clubs probably didn't help
Given that he wasn't the brightest man I'm willing to bet he made some bad decisions about the amount of juice he took.
Trouble is when he saw the results it's very hard to come off it & I bet he even took more.
Even pro bodybuilders screw up & lose livers or die.
Coming off the sauce is not so easy because it's also a mental turmoil as well as hormonal.
Guys like McLean love to be the "man" & the biggest most feared thug in town.
He didn't know anything else in his sad life.
I certainly wouldn't worship any other man especially not a bully boy thug.
@@1970sthrowback And then he was in the film lock stock, Smoking barrels, so he couldn't get away from it 🫤 really
Surely all those hundreds of fights he had didn’t help either. Think of all the detriment that would have caused to his body.
@@Mans1910
Yeah obviously if you take blows to the head then it's not good.
Watch any documentary about boxing & brain injuries 😮
The brain gets punishment & it's very vulnerable soft material. Although the skull is immensely strong the brain is bounced around inside that's the problem.
Later in life McLean was suffering, watch his last interviews.. his brain was a mush ...
Mumbled like a retard.
All the best Ray 💯👊👊
keep the good work up in the New year mate 💥💥
Lenny was brilliant in lock stock and 2 smoking barrels. Respect to him! RIP
Happy new year Ray mate
All the best of luck for 2024 😊💪👊🍾
Thanks for the video, Bang Bang Ray Hill
What was Eric Morecombe doing when all this was going on Ray?
Holding Ernie Wise's jacket obviously
Stop taking the plss. The worst tear up I witnessed was between Roy Shaw and Christopher Biggins.
If Keith Harris and Orville hadn't been there to break it up, I dread to think of the bloodbath that would have ensued.
@@jonsmith20766good job Rod Hull and Emu wasn't there, they all would of got messed up
Another great upload I always look forward to ya stories reminds me of my naughty boy days I'm straight now hung up me gloves as they day..💯👍🏻👊🥊
You're an absolute fantasist Ray. You've got more fairy tales to tell than Hans Christian Andersen!
Story book international ,,, im a story teller and my stories must be told 😂
Very interesting story's from a world i know nothing about , thanks.
He was in the knock before lock stock .
Good call
@Johndollary look up terry oniel he was in something called civies and the governor. He would of give lenny a run for his money .dangerous man
Mauritian Pete from Norbury....! He was on the door at Hippodrome and was a proper handful...!
Try looking for a photo of John on google but nothing.
Noo same he don't like any pics but I will try and get one respect mate 💯🥊🥊
@@bangbangrayhill2218watching the UA-cam channel with you and Fish hahaha
never take a plea deal on a sec18, that's the cops backdooring you, it is one off manslaughter and often carries a heavier sentence because you are admitting you deliberately wanted to cause it whereas manslaughter can be accidental, an old brief told me that years back,
Love to sit down for a night with Ray & listen & chat , would be a great night Im sure
Fair play: l didn’t know that Ernie Wise owned clubs and was a bit of a gangster in his spare time. I thought he would have been too busy for all that, what with doing all those shows with his partner Eric Morecambe. Tell me: did he “break into song” whilst he was attacking McLean and sing such ballads as “bring me sunshine” and “get my kicks, following you around.”
Lenny McLean was so weak in the end he couldn't even lift his own suitcase when he went on holiday. A sad end to one of the most frightening men London ever produced.
You've always a interesting take on things mate 🤔
Lenny lives in your head rent free.
Embedded deep in his head, he can't make a video without telling stories of lenny getting chinned, sad
😂😂😂
Lenny hater was he so out spoken when he was alive people seem to love dissing him now he's dead and can't defend himself
How’s it going on the book front Ray ?
He is still coloring it in 😂😂
@@deansmalley5807 the best yet
Tell sum stories on london legend doc rackpulls mucka
100% thus👍🇬🇧👊
I've heard that when h gies...HE GOES👊
Where was Eric Morecombe
Playing Snooker with Steve Davis
no he was in blackpool.
Ernie wise vs Norman wisdom 50/50
Where was Eric Morcambe while Ernie was getting battered...?
Ray find out about Ronnie Oliffe chinning Hanlon in foreman’s pub ! The punters would love to hear that one !!
Lenny Mclean was in his late 40s when he died , he got put on his arse by golden Virginia.
His arch rival, fitness fanatic, who never smoked & used to run 8 miles a day in his late 60s dies under air of secrecy and only years later it is said he died of heart failure .
i thought the murder charge was a guy on acid acting an idiot, one punch killed him, cant remember where i heard or read that
your on the right track,he stripped naked and had to be restrained thats what was said at the time
Didn't know Ernie wise was so hard Eric morecambe was lucky to be alive😮
Remember Lenny in Brixton jail in 1992 , he was in the hospital for a while
Ernie wise was a gangster , the wises everyone in west London knows have proper pull . They ran it from Ladbroke Grove all the way to Heathrow . No one messed with there firm . Ernie was the boss he’s little nephew Kevin wise was a major drug dealer in the 90s and early 2000s,
Dennis was the best one I thought me and Ernie argued 😂😂😂 Kevin no comment if he see this he would understand 🤷♂️
Why was Ernie on his own that day? Where was Eric Motcombe lol
Beating up Roy shaw 😮
I hear Eric moorcombe was going mental about Earnie wise getting a slap 😊
Never worried me about who can do what good for them if there not for me I won’t talk to them wouldn’t be rude loyalty is something no one can take from ya be yourself say how it is it ether wrong or right good or bad be a nice person and let no one be your governor come on you Rs god save the king 🙏
Ernie Wise !
What a load of bollocks
Ernie wise ?
I heard Ernie could have a terrible row in his younger days, the bully his name says it all ray
It's like listening to paint dry...nothing like living in the past.....zzzz
A thought Lenny Mclean died of Asbestosis
why come out with this when lenny is in a box mm
So where did Morcombe come into all of this? Everyone beat Lenny, one he was dead. What a load of pony this story is
Ernie wise wouldn’t fight lenny if he didn’t have 2 John wouldn’t think twice Iv none John all my life he never said anything bad about lenny Roy sure my dad was banged up with him in Lewis and he ripped the cell door off 🤷♂️anyway Johnny hanlon love you always will my dad and mum thought the world of you as do all my family just don’t ask to borrow my car 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who seen it though?
Roy shaw beat him in the ring
lenny was 44 when that happened wth hanlan
Ernie wise as in moorcomb and wise? 😂😂
Haha behave. Dennis wise relation
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Didnt have ernie wise down as a fighter...eric morecombe on the other hand could have a row
Richard bucket is the hardest
Ray Lenny got done for a slap police got away with murder and you look at the UK today fight against good and evil very very hard fight most probably the hardest ever are you up for the challenge
Bullshit
best quit before you start
Mutant
Ernie wise? wasnt he a comedian, a funny guy
Look when Ernie got mad he was no comedian ask Ken dodd😮