The worst thing about this (besides the death of the nanny) is that Lady Lucan was basically shunned & lived the rest of her life alone. Her children were taken by Lord Lucans parents & wouldn't have anything to do w/ her ever again; even after they reached adulthood. None of them believed Lady Lucans story about what happened that night & wrote her off as being crazy. So sad. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Yes but he wasn't he was planning to kill his wife he just got the wrong woman in the light. He wouldn't be the first or the last killer to do that, and I've never believed he was dead either because there's a certain famous personality who's the same age as him looks the same and if you did a facial thing you would see what I'm talking about I won't go into who it is but let's just say there's a certain man who has a literally drop dead look alike to him just without the mustache and if you've ever taken the mustache off the picture you'll know exactly who I'm talking about.
Aristocracy: started off as medieval mafia, consequently centuries of inbreeding to stick to their wealth and power and then resulted in a degenerate lot who consider themselves elite.
Quite. The school a person goes to has little to do with the development of a moral compass. Rather, you might argue that so called 'elite' schools attract those from a privileged background which breeds a sense of entitlement. Entitled people really do believe they are better than the rest of us, and, therefore, think they are above the law - the morals and norms of society are for the 'little' people. Witness Boris Johnson's behaviour during the Covid lockdowns.
Yes, even super glue has nothing on the ability of the so called upper classes to adhere to each other to create a circle of unity..and police often fall for it...
Aristocracy and the criminal fraternity often assist each other - moral compass has little to do with it. They might despise each other, but they also help each other to gain what they want.
Lucan had aristocratic friends who owned yachts, aeroplanes and country estates both in the UK and Abroad, he wasn't the average person who would not have had the contacts and resources Lucan had, he was a spoilt child that had had the best of everything private education served in the Guards etc etc, there is no way he would have done himself in, he was too self centred and weak to do that, he was spirited away by his aristocratic friends after lying low in one of their country estates somewhere hiding in priests holes if the Police would ever call if necessary, then later either flown out of the country or spirited away by yacht or motorboat, the old school tie network would then come into play, access to passports and any other official documents would be a piece of cake for him to obtain, I would say he lived his life out in South Africa or Namibia on a vast game reserve with a brand new identity changed his appearance and travelled freely on his new name and passport visiting the UK several times, probably even returned to the scene of his crime on occasion at 46 Lower Belgrave Street.
if his friends did help him get away, i wouldn't be in the least surprised. having seen interviews with them at the time, they all seemed to be firmly of the idea that this was some kind of jolly jape, and not a human being's murder. but if you're female, or working-class, or female AND working class, it's possible they wouldn't really consider you human in they way that they themselves are.
Genealogist here: Whether or not Lord Lucan's direct descendants agree to be tested, Genetic Genealogy can still verify the identity of the hair. They only need a few close cousins (3rd cousin or closer, which are likely to be online or at least easy to find) in order to zero in on him.
It's also the case that nuclear DNA can be extracted from hair shafts nowadays. It used to be that you needed the hair root (making a lock of hair useless), but that isn't the case anymore. A lock of hair would be usable.
Lady Lucan was tiny , less than 5 feet tall and around 100 pounds compare to Lucan’s size. She was so lucky to have survived . She really kept her wits about her
Sandra Rivett was brutally murdered by Lucan and is often totally overlooked, in the hysteria over this self entitled, manipulative, misogynistic murderer. Victims of crime, are just an afterthought...
The bizarre thing about Lord Lucan to me is that he was besty with James Goldsmith who owned Bovril and had many assets in Argentina, a country known for hiding Nazis after the Second World War. Lucas wasn't exactly a raver. He liked to eat the same food at each meal and to consort with upper class chaps. Argentina is full of upper class chaps, be they British or German. And Goldsmith wouldn't have had the least problem getting Lucan into Argentina. But of all the countries in the world where the newspapers were supposedly hunting for him, Argentina and the entire subcontinent of South America were the only ones where nobody was looking. He supposedly met one of his children in South Africa. Here he is in the Philippines - and maybe both are true. He was also supposedly in Australia. But all these stories serve as red herrings for where he really was - Argentina. How did Lucans friends keep the press looking everywhere except where he most likely was? That is the real mystery.
that makes sense. he'd rather have settled long term in Argentina than in the philippines. Just makes so much more sense, he could wander about in Argentina, not every eye on him noting that he's foreign.
It was reported that he’d been living in a Buddhist retreat in the hills behind the city of Perth in Western Australia. There was a photo in the article that someone who’d befriended him had taken and he looked identical though aged obviously. I don’t know what came of it. He would’ve had to have renewed his false passport after ten years so we can presume that would’ve been problematic.
@@Kualabear02 Wasn't the reason for meeting up with Moynihan and his mates again was to get another false passport, which would have been 10 years after he first did a runner.
What’s this tripe about “exclusive school = superior morals?” How do you watch royalty and gentry routinely wriggle out of facing any kind of justice - in full public view, mind you - and hold such a stupid view? No wonder the UK is such a mess.
Yes ! I am an old nemo ! But back in the 1960s I happen to know a son of a Brigadier with a country estate , a public school boy etc etc, who happen to latch on to the bohemian crowd I was with and he was the most unscrupulous crook I ever new in my life and very clever with it . His parents would of had a heart attack if they had seen the side of their son , that we saw.
The aristocracy covered up for him. A friend of mine lived in Lady Seftons house in Abbeystead, her parents were the caretakers, they received a phone call from Lady Sefton in the early hours telling them that a man would be coming to visit, they were to leave food for him, and not to interfere with him and keep it absolutely secret. No one turned up and my friend told me about it and we worked it out that it must have been Lucan that was coming to stay, my friends dad said that if Lucan had turned up he would have phoned the police, protecting murderers wasn’t in his job description. My friends parents were lovely kind people but wouldn’t break the law, they had morals, they would peel her grapes for Lady S but not hide her murderous chums.
As a mathematician I want to explain something to everyone. There is no such thing as a hot number. Each spin of the wheel is independent and has no relation to the spins that happened previously. A roulette wheel doesn’t have a memory of what numbers it has hit. Secondly, you may win in the short term but in the long run you will lose the longer you play.
I have known a few gambling addicts. They ALL claim they win most of the time. Sometimes they do win, but lose almost all of the time and are usually broke, short of money and try to borrow. A person can waste money on drugs or alcohol but there is no limit to how much they can lose gambling. It is an addiction like any other.
Yes makes you wonder what else did randy Andy get away with , with current and former presidential approval ,Royal approval , in a NY maximum security prison ,on suicide watch , after a suitable plea deal had been established , Epstein's sentencing was expedited with a little help from his friends
@ They certainly did when Lucan disappeared. You should check your facts. We still had the Appellate Committee of the House of Lords and the Privy Council then who were often members of the aristocracy.
They still do from the Royal family down. They are shielded from legal consequences of their actions. Dubious behaviour in the financial markets, dubious behaviour with staff, etc. Even the minor establishment figures that love fox hunting get away with regularly breaking the law re. Wildlife crimes and for threat and assault against anyone who gets in their way. It is totally unacceptable how the law is enforced in the UK and most developed countries, especially the US.
'They'd been to the top schools in the country'. LOL. This bloke clearly doesn't know that the first and most important lesson that is taught in 'the top schools in the country' is to look after your mates. Look at what Johnson got away with because Cameron was giving him cover and then Johnson rewarded Cameron with a peerage. That's what they learned from Eton.
Toffs have always looked after each other, the entire matter was botched, and covered up by his upper class mates. The true truth about was this foolish, privileged twit will never be known
Were you looking at a different video? The corruption in this case relates primarily to aristocrats. You could make that argument if the police had said he wasnt guilty and had shut the case down.
@janwilson9485 Do you think that the police have only just become corrupt ? They've been corrupt since day one when they were formed just to protect the property of the Slave Traders.
True about Lucan being considered for the James Bond part,he was friends with Cubby Broccoli and was taking acting lessons for it but decided he didn`t like acting,I have read about that before on Bond websites.
He looked like Brad Pitt in some photos so I don't doubt that to be true at all, I'm a massive bond fan and can believe for sure as British aristocracy they would of cast him if he didn't dislike acting.
What an advert for the public school system, three dodgy lords together. All the stories about his supposed death, muddy the waters to the point that nobody knows what to believe, its a classic way to cover the real truth, very interesting.
Very interesting insight and yes we must remember an innocent lady was brutally murdered and Lady Lucan attacked. No doubt he was helped and protected by his circle. They really should hang their heads in shame but don't think they would. The story fascinates me and hope to learn the true story of where he escaped to. He certainly was too arrogant to jump off ferry. He would have much safer escape options as he stated in this interesting article
I’ve ALWAYS FELT a man like Lucan WOULD NEVER kill himself. Never. He’s gone w/o a trace. A possible staged scenario. Too clean. He went to SA for a do-over.
I always enjoyed the lucan saga. Never forgetting an innocent woman died. I was told by a journalist working on the story in the mid 70's, that Lords could get away with it. He angle was he owed to much money to to many powerful people. He had to have jumped. They would have turned him in. This wasn't the charge of the light brigade.
He didnt jump, they had to say that, they couldn’t state that he died by his own hand in Lyall street in the early hours of Friday 8th November 1974. They’re were only fifty percent correct in saying he killed himself.
In a thread shortly before this one they actually believed he had lived in Argentina and what they wrote is very interesting and actually sounds quite plausible
Interestingly enough there is absolutely no mention of gambling club owner John Aspinal who was also a pal of Lucan . Aspinal owned property and 2 zoos in Kent and it was suspected locally that Lucan had been hidden by Aspinal and helped to get across to France
Without the lock of hair being produced and verified by DNA analysis, this is pure conjecture. If this lady is prepared to share the information publicly then why not produce the lock of hair and submit it for testing? And why not wait, as a journalist, with going to press with the story until it has been verified?
Nice idea, but the timelines are too far off to be feasible. The murder happened in 1974; Queen formed in 1970. I used to see young Freddie around in London from time to time, between c1969 and 1973 - and I can vouch for the fact that he was clearly the same Freddie we see in videos like Bohemian Rhapsody from 1975, and footage from concerts in 1975 and 76 (Hammersmith Odeon and Hyde Park). 😀
Something I do know for sure is that many, many false passports were active and successful in the 1900s. I wish I could say more. These days, with advanced technology, are people still getting away with it? (I would doubt it). Lady Lucan was an intelligent and brave lady. I do not know how to even begin to describe him.
I thought they BBC documentary where the son of the murdered women tracked him down with a journalist after meeting Lucans brother. They found him living as a Buddhist in Australia. He did look like him and had the same birthday and had lived the same life in Belgravia.
Mathematicians say the odds of the facial recognition system that identified him being wrong is astronomical, impossible. Facial recognition between the drag artist and the old man was subsequently done and did not match. Looks like it was Lucan.
@boxinggospel5334 I don't know who conducted that but thier bone structures alone are not the same, there's also photos of that guy in Australia when he was younger and you can see it's definitely that man. I feel bad for her son, all he wants is answer's and he's being led on by people that knew they were being filmed and used it to boost thier own fame or ego.
@boxinggospel5334 look at pics of lord lucan's confirmed son, he's identical to his dad, that man looks nothing like his dad who had strong genetics. I think LL looks like Brad Pitt and post malone 😄 once you see it you can't unsee it
I reported in 1988 that I & 2 other businesses associate from Australia came into contact with Lucan through another "LORD" in a Holiday resort near Manila.
Makes me ponder what else randy Andy got away with former and current Presidential approval , Royal approval ,In a New York maximum security prison on suicide watch after a suitable Plea Deal had been established Epstein's sentencing was expedited
About 20 years ago, there was a report in a New Zealand that Lord Lucan was living in rural New Zealand. The similarity between Lucan's picture and the local man was quite interesting
I remember about Lord Lucan and also remember about the last woman executed Rutherford ellis! A shame Lucan’s never been found but well protected it seems👀
According to the Wikipedia article on him, Bingham failed a screen test for the movie "Woman Times Seven" and he then declined an invitation from Cubby Broccoli to screen test for the part of James Bond in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".
The BBC documentary referenced some police report suggesting he was still alive around 2001-2002. That would make him 67-68 years old. Perfectly plausible.
The hair would have to have a hair follicle or some shed skin for DNA. Hair itself doesn't have cells. There is genealogical DNA which can be generated from cousins, not just children. Often criminals end up in situations in which they are killed by other criminals. It is quite common that investigations of older cases are hampered, because everyone involved with the case had been murdered over a few years.
Lucan was a chronic gambler and a creature if habit. He wasn't a great intellect. Even with a name change I think he'd of actually turned up doing what he always did and been recognised. I'm more inclined to think he ended things. DNA would be the only way to try and solve that question now I think.
It was a lot easier to create a new identity back then. Just one example, it was just recently uncovered here in America that a woman wanted as a suspect in 3 murders who’d been missing since 1969 died of old age in Canada in 2022. She’d been working in Canada as realtor for decades even taking out ads in local newspapers with her face pictured *edit: her name was Sharon ‘La Pistolera’ Kinne btw
I always wondered about the sack. Who brought it? Was it just there in the home. It's interesting that it’s a “United States Postal Service” bag. I always found that odd. I'm an American+have never come across 1. My neighbors, a couple who have both worked for the Post Office for over 30 years+am always over their house. Never have seen 1! Like I have a higher chance than most to come across such things 1 would think-at least higher than a crime scene in Belgravia, no? I know it’s sick+petty but it has always bothered me as to where that even came from to begin with. Was it something niche one might find in Covent Garden or a Charity Shop? Or used for cargo of some sort. I need to know. Am I the only 1 bothered by this in the least?! Did it come from The Baron?! I know it was Colonel Mustard in the library with the lead pipe.
Fascinating film and a credible witness. I liked the police theory that Graham Hill (a close friend) had flown Lucan out of the country - or at least provided his private plane for the purpose. This would fit with the idea of society friends closing ranks and aiding the fugitive. Damon would have been about 14 at the time. I wonder if he knows anything about it?
I'm sorry you say Lady Moynihan isn't a criminal, but she lived with and married one. She might not have a criminal record, but you can bet she isn't an honest person, so i take her statement very, very lightly. She would need to have some sort of proof before I would believe her, so i think your chasing the truth and need to believe in her to make a part of a story more reachable for a conclusion which probably will never have a definitive ending
I wonder, could Lucan have been murdered by the establishment. If they were determined not to put him in the dock, then an easier way is just to dispose of him. It’s seems he is very invisible and to decades of hiding expensive. The other thing is that the establishment gets old and dies off, so the contacts diminish over time. How does that fit in.
It is very interesting the theory that Lucan did what he did in order to have custody of his children. How could he really love them when he would murder their mother? No child would benefit by that or feel secure or loved being looked after by a man who did that. Surely it is more likely that he wanted to possess them and convinced himself that his wife was mad? A delusionist
So, Lucan's passprt was left in London and he comes to Manila looking for a false passport but how did he enter the Philippines if he did not already have a passport?
Anything was possible even if a bit messy at times under Marcos 1st , now that Meta /Zuckerburg got ,Bong Bong into power via free calls & data on F/book for a few weeks ,there was only three public meetings the third being his acceptance speech ,he dropped Bong Bong ,Imelda's affectionate name for him , his first act as President was to disband the long running bi-partisan senate committee into $US100 million , 1985s US $100 million , Duterte had to go , to much of a blunt object , although his daughter is Vice President (weird system there) , now its Ferdinand 2nd .With Musk dropping money on racists in UK Farage , in France Le Penn ,in Germany unnamed straight out white supremacist's getting back home getting rid of Vivek to Ohio , can't take the Apartheid outta that boy.An somewhat similar , what else has Randy Andy got away with ?, with current and former Presidential approval ,royal approval , in maximum security NY prison on suicide watch , after a suitable plea deal was established sentencing was expedited on Epstein ,with a little help from friends in common .What a wonderful world ,Like Melania's hat at 457s inauguration , ,straight rip off of Ian Fleming's (James Bond) odjob's hats decapitate ,at 100 yard's thrown like s a frisbee ,keep 457 at bay from 2 inches , I think it will be on sale , soon as SHP , Superior Head Protection .An anything is possible in the Philippines except divorce , as the catholics run the place only a very expensive annulment is allowed before confession ,serious identity problems internally ,where a mix of America ,an unfettered access to firearms , Chinese with gambling , an Spanish with unfettered access to Bong Bong ,largest Opus Dei population with Latin Catholicism.
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Watch Lucan! The nanny who he killed - her biological son found Lucan recently in the Australian Outback in his 90s. He’s the only one who truly did a decent investigation to find him and I believe he has. Lucan has lived a full life and got away with murder. He literally confessed to it on camera. He and all involved in keeping him hidden or knew that he is still alive are a disgrace. Shame on them all.
Just watched it. That bloke is a fantasist. The man he claims is Lucan, really isn't. He looks absolutely nothing like Lord Lucan. I read a book 20 years ago that claimed Lucan went to india. And THAT Lucan LOOKS like LUCAN.
and what about the video call with the suspected lucan where he talked about the nanny as though he knew her and literally said yes I am him but I’m not anymore? that swung it for me. admittedly the ending was a strong curve ball but I found the whole thing quite compelling. DNA is the key to it all even if they don’t get it whilst he’s still alive, which I believe he is. also living in plain sight, then confronted and suddenly moves to the middle of nowhere where there is no one. doing what he’s always done - running away.
Titles are supposed to elevate above suspicion from the common folk; about time titles are no longer recognised given these people have proven they are not examples of integrity & honesty in society.
He also gaslit her. He hired people to anonymously telephone her and then try to convince her it didn’t happen. Even if he wasn’t a murderer, he was a domestic violence perpetrator.
Lucan had no real skills outside of his posh social set. He degenerated and lost his own fortune. He got unhinged and if he was serious about getting Veronica he should have got a Hit Man, he didn't. he managed to attack the wrong person. When reality intruded and he realised what he had done, he committed suicide. He had no alternative and his posh friends would not and could not save him.
One story was that he went to see his friend Aspinall,who handed him a revolver and told him to "do the decent thing" Aspinall owned a zoo which included tigers...he was constantly in trouble for them attacking staff at his private zoo...this is where the story of Lucan having been fed to tigers comes from...at first hearing utterly implausible until you learn about Aspinall.
@@nickbarber2080 I agree that anything involving Aspinall, who owned a casino as well as the zoo, is probably true. One of his tigers actually killed a keeper.
I always felt like those close to him knew more than they were letting on. Some of what they said came across as oddly specific and dropping vague hints, maybe a bit "doth protest too much".
He lives quietly in Sunderland ..the least likely location for a toff. Nobody in their right mind would move there, so in a way cunning. He has access to a nice yacht and is getting on a bit now but can still be seen on the sea front every year.
Very interesting. But not LORD ANTONY Moynihan - he wasn’t a Duke’s younger son - he was, as 2nd Baron, Lord Moynihan. You can’t use Lord indiscriminately like Mr. Same kind of mistake with LADY VERONICA Lucan - she was Lady Lucan - she wasn’t of the nobility before her marriage - she wasn’t an Earl’s or Duke’s daughter. You can’t use Lady the way you use Miss or Mrs. Surely a knowledgeable British journalist should know that? It may be a small thing but somehow it undermines your claims to competence.
What in the world is wrong with using a person’s given name, as in Lady Veronica Lucan. Is her first name supposed to be erased? What a load of nonsense. This whole comment had nothing whatever to do with the topic of the video!
don't forget his mates like john Aspinall with his tigers was probably still owed gambling money by Lucan so they wanted him kept alive to pay them off, getting him working for them overseas running drugs meant they still got paid, Aspinall bought his zoo with the proceeds of gambling and dodgy deals
He was born 18th December 1934 and was just shy of 40 when this happened. He'd be 90 now. But _officially_ he "died" in 1999 aged 65 because that's when he was declared legally dead. A death certificate (no idea what's on it) was issued in 2016 to allow his son to inherit the titles. Veronica committed "Sue E. Side" on 26th September 2017 aged 80, following a self-diagnosis of Parkinson's Disease. She didn't actually have it.
Lucan vanished in 1974. His son does nothing until 2016, when he suddenly demands a death certificate so he can have the title. Sat on his hands for 40 years, because too many people (the ones who are fussy about titles) knew Lucan was still alive.
That is because his body was fed to the animals in the zoo why else is there a little grave at the back that says Lucan on it and why were the zookeepers told not to feed the lions and tigers for two days before he went missing and why were the keepers told not to turn up for a couple of days?
There's a book written about this claiming that Lucan escaped by a plane of Graham Hills to Portugal, from there he went to a portuguese enclave in Goah India with a new identity of Barry and sported a bushy beard a la David Bellamy.
The thing that puzzles me is that Lady L was petite and short in height. The nanny was quite tall and statuesque. Surely, LL would not have mistaken one for the other?
Just makes me wonder in these social circles , what else did randy Andy get away with , with current and former presidential approval , royal approval , in a NY maximum security prison , on suicide watch , after a Plea Deal had been established, Epstein's sentencing was expedited with a little help from friends in common .
The bit I dont get how still called "Lord Lucan" and am referring to the "Lord" part, did no one bring the subget that we didn't have a load? with their question background
You have to ask for a few strands of hair (or ask the Labs how much they need). Get it tested first, then see if any family members come up on a genealogy search. If not, approach family members for DNA. Why would this woman refuse to give you hair, if she has gone this far and has never wanted money for this information she has made public? I think that's the easiest thing to try to move the case forward, compared to trying to find how he lived in the Philippines and who gave him money and where his grave is. Once you have DNA, if you happen to find his grave then there's a chance you could get DNA from that to see if it matches the hair. Once you confirm his grave is in the Philippines, you can focus on how to find out who funded him, and where and how he lived.
The worst thing about this (besides the death of the nanny) is that Lady Lucan was basically shunned & lived the rest of her life alone. Her children were taken by Lord Lucans parents & wouldn't have anything to do w/ her ever again; even after they reached adulthood. None of them believed Lady Lucans story about what happened that night & wrote her off as being crazy. So sad. They should be ashamed of themselves.
That is harsh alright. If she was a LITTLE bit bitter then I don't blame her.
Lord Lucan's dead father took the kids away from Mummy 🤔🙄😮🤯🥴😵😵💫😅😂🤣🦬💩❤
But to my mind it indicates that all 3 children believed him innocent.
Yes but he wasn't he was planning to kill his wife he just got the wrong woman in the light. He wouldn't be the first or the last killer to do that, and I've never believed he was dead either because there's a certain famous personality who's the same age as him looks the same and if you did a facial thing you would see what I'm talking about I won't go into who it is but let's just say there's a certain man who has a literally drop dead look alike to him just without the mustache and if you've ever taken the mustache off the picture you'll know exactly who I'm talking about.
True
Fell off my chair laughing when you said you expected ANY sort of moral compass from Britain's elite
Aristocracy: started off as medieval mafia, consequently centuries of inbreeding to stick to their wealth and power and then resulted in a degenerate lot who consider themselves elite.
Quite. The school a person goes to has little to do with the development of a moral compass. Rather, you might argue that so called 'elite' schools attract those from a privileged background which breeds a sense of entitlement. Entitled people really do believe they are better than the rest of us, and, therefore, think they are above the law - the morals and norms of society are for the 'little' people. Witness Boris Johnson's behaviour during the Covid lockdowns.
Yes, even super glue has nothing on the ability of the so called upper classes to adhere to each other to create a circle of unity..and police often fall for it...
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Aristocracy and the criminal fraternity often assist each other - moral compass has little to do with it. They might despise each other, but they also help each other to gain what they want.
I am so glad you decided to preserve the dignity of the victim by not showing the crime scene photo.
Lucan had aristocratic friends who owned yachts, aeroplanes and country estates both in the UK and Abroad, he wasn't the average person who would not have had the contacts and resources Lucan had, he was a spoilt child that had had the best of everything private education served in the Guards etc etc, there is no way he would have done himself in, he was too self centred and weak to do that, he was spirited away by his aristocratic friends after lying low in one of their country estates somewhere hiding in priests holes if the Police would ever call if necessary, then later either flown out of the country or spirited away by yacht or motorboat, the old school tie network would then come into play, access to passports and any other official documents would be a piece of cake for him to obtain, I would say he lived his life out in South Africa or Namibia on a vast game reserve with a brand new identity changed his appearance and travelled freely on his new name and passport visiting the UK several times, probably even returned to the scene of his crime on occasion at 46 Lower Belgrave Street.
11.00 - 'A Ford Corsa' ? Supposed to be meticulous. If you cant get that right, well !
No one was going to do much if anything to help a bankrupt it was his so called friends who took his money and some killed him
@@kenneth2656 In other words: a Freemason
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Whilst I agree with that, playing devils advocate I can't believe someone wouldn't have blabbed somewhere down the line!
if his friends did help him get away, i wouldn't be in the least surprised. having seen interviews with them at the time, they all seemed to be firmly of the idea that this was some kind of jolly jape, and not a human being's murder. but if you're female, or working-class, or female AND working class, it's possible they wouldn't really consider you human in they way that they themselves are.
Exactly. She was ‘only’ the nanny. Plenty more of them around.
And so it goes, British elite, still at it, like with Brexit! Peasants, matter not!
Genealogist here: Whether or not Lord Lucan's direct descendants agree to be tested, Genetic Genealogy can still verify the identity of the hair. They only need a few close cousins (3rd cousin or closer, which are likely to be online or at least easy to find) in order to zero in on him.
It's also the case that nuclear DNA can be extracted from hair shafts nowadays. It used to be that you needed the hair root (making a lock of hair useless), but that isn't the case anymore. A lock of hair would be usable.
Gee, rich people helping a psychopath and thinking they're above the law? NO?!
And Miss Rivet’s children left MOTHERLESS!
Lady Lucan was tiny , less than 5 feet tall and around 100 pounds compare to Lucan’s size. She was so lucky to have survived . She really kept her wits about her
Agree. A very wise and brave woman.
@ No she wasnt i found out the hard way she never paid me she grassed me up and got me put in prison
@@hirepgym6913 ? I have got lost 🤔.
Sandra Rivett was brutally murdered by Lucan and is often totally overlooked, in the hysteria over this self entitled, manipulative, misogynistic murderer.
Victims of crime, are just an afterthought...
The faux Lady Colin Campbell claims Lady Lucan killed the nanny.
The bizarre thing about Lord Lucan to me is that he was besty with James Goldsmith who owned Bovril and had many assets in Argentina, a country known for hiding Nazis after the Second World War.
Lucas wasn't exactly a raver. He liked to eat the same food at each meal and to consort with upper class chaps. Argentina is full of upper class chaps, be they British or German. And Goldsmith wouldn't have had the least problem getting Lucan into Argentina.
But of all the countries in the world where the newspapers were supposedly hunting for him, Argentina and the entire subcontinent of South America were the only ones where nobody was looking.
He supposedly met one of his children in South Africa. Here he is in the Philippines - and maybe both are true. He was also supposedly in Australia.
But all these stories serve as red herrings for where he really was - Argentina.
How did Lucans friends keep the press looking everywhere except where he most likely was? That is the real mystery.
that makes sense. he'd rather have settled long term in Argentina than in the philippines. Just makes so much more sense, he could wander about in Argentina, not every eye on him noting that he's foreign.
It was reported that he’d been living in a Buddhist retreat in the hills behind the city of Perth in Western Australia. There was a photo in the article that someone who’d befriended him had taken and he looked identical though aged obviously. I don’t know what came of it.
He would’ve had to have renewed his false passport after ten years so we can presume that would’ve been problematic.
@@Kualabear02 There was a documentary on that, it wasn't him in Australia.
So you think your the only one who considered South America?
@@Kualabear02 Wasn't the reason for meeting up with Moynihan and his mates again was to get another false passport, which would have been 10 years after he first did a runner.
What’s this tripe about “exclusive school = superior morals?” How do you watch royalty and gentry routinely wriggle out of facing any kind of justice - in full public view, mind you - and hold such a stupid view? No wonder the UK is such a mess.
Kings, queens, lord what a load of crap, these people are sponging on the citizens and the herd doesn't seem to mind.
Timestamp, so people can go straight to it?
Yes ! I am an old nemo ! But back in the 1960s I happen to know a son of a Brigadier with a country estate , a public school boy etc etc, who happen to latch on to the bohemian crowd I was with and he was the most unscrupulous crook I ever new in my life and very clever with it . His parents would of had a heart attack if they had seen the side of their son , that we saw.
The ole rich boy network is alive and well in the US as well.
@@arthuroldale-ki2ev Interesting that you write "would of" instead of "would have"?
The aristocracy covered up for him. A friend of mine lived in Lady Seftons house in Abbeystead, her parents were the caretakers, they received a phone call from Lady Sefton in the early hours telling them that a man would be coming to visit, they were to leave food for him, and not to interfere with him and keep it absolutely secret. No one turned up and my friend told me about it and we worked it out that it must have been Lucan that was coming to stay, my friends dad said that if Lucan had turned up he would have phoned the police, protecting murderers wasn’t in his job description. My friends parents were lovely kind people but wouldn’t break the law, they had morals, they would peel her grapes for Lady S but not hide her murderous chums.
Naive or what ....
hearsay
Well if that was true hopefully one of them would have tried to call the police but it sounds like nobody ever did
... and /or Scotland Yard
Just as Friends?? in any level of society
He was high up in the funny handshake brigade… His escape and unhindered life abroad doesn’t surprise me in the least.
Freemasons?
@Her.Serine.Feline.Cuteness. .. Yep!
Exactly. It's not what you've done. It is who you know.
Mormons? Their temple rituals were copied from the Freemasons. A wild history truly.
More likely he was able to use the jesuit "ratrun" established by the vatican to enable wanted nazi criminals escape to south America
As a mathematician I want to explain something to everyone. There is no such thing as a hot number. Each spin of the wheel is independent and has no relation to the spins that happened previously. A roulette wheel doesn’t have a memory of what numbers it has hit. Secondly, you may win in the short term but in the long run you will lose the longer you play.
Assuming that the wheel hasn't been rigged, which they normally are
I have known a few gambling addicts. They ALL claim they win most of the time. Sometimes they do win, but lose almost all of the time and are usually broke, short of money and try to borrow. A person can waste money on drugs or alcohol but there is no limit to how much they can lose gambling. It is an addiction like any other.
@@johnwright9372
Yes. You hear about the wins but not the loses .
The aristocracy made sure he wasn’t caught. What’s the point in having all that power if they don’t use it?
Yes makes you wonder what else did randy Andy get away with , with current and former presidential approval ,Royal approval , in a NY maximum security prison ,on suicide watch , after a suitable plea deal had been established , Epstein's sentencing was expedited with a little help from his friends
The modern-day aristocracy have no political power, and little social influence - check your facts. :)
@ They certainly did when Lucan disappeared. You should check your facts. We still had the Appellate Committee of the House of Lords and the Privy Council then who were often members of the aristocracy.
They still do from the Royal family down. They are shielded from legal consequences of their actions. Dubious behaviour in the financial markets, dubious behaviour with staff, etc. Even the minor establishment figures that love fox hunting get away with regularly breaking the law re. Wildlife crimes and for threat and assault against anyone who gets in their way. It is totally unacceptable how the law is enforced in the UK and most developed countries, especially the US.
@ I would say they have inside influence within their own social circles, but not power like they had in the 1800s/ early 1900s.
Excellent & intriguing exposition.
Thanks for posting.
'They'd been to the top schools in the country'. LOL. This bloke clearly doesn't know that the first and most important lesson that is taught in 'the top schools in the country' is to look after your mates. Look at what Johnson got away with because Cameron was giving him cover and then Johnson rewarded Cameron with a peerage. That's what they learned from Eton.
Toffs have always looked after each other, the entire matter was botched, and covered up by his upper class mates. The true truth about was this foolish, privileged twit will never be known
Whereas the working class always grass on each other......I know which I prefer..
People LOOK AFTER EACH OTHER at all levels of society
It’s such a tragedy…. Sadly no real closure for Sandra’s family…
I think it's easier to understand how he got away now the extent of police and government corruption is exposed in the UK.
Were you looking at a different video? The corruption in this case relates primarily to aristocrats. You could make that argument if the police had said he wasnt guilty and had shut the case down.
It was hardly police or govt corruption, more old school tie.
@johnwright9372
Same thing
@janwilson9485
Do you think that the police have only just become corrupt ?
They've been corrupt since day one when they were formed just to protect the property of the Slave Traders.
True about Lucan being considered for the James Bond part,he was friends with Cubby Broccoli and was taking acting lessons for it but decided he didn`t like acting,I have read about that before on Bond websites.
He looked like Brad Pitt in some photos so I don't doubt that to be true at all, I'm a massive bond fan and can believe for sure as British aristocracy they would of cast him if he didn't dislike acting.
A fascinating story that remains intriguing to this day.
What an advert for the public school system, three dodgy lords together.
All the stories about his supposed death, muddy the waters to the point that nobody knows what to believe, its a classic way to cover the real truth, very interesting.
I remember walking round the most prestigious law firm in UK and seeing a file named Lucan Estates. How I would have loved to have read that!
It was Lord Lucan in the pantry, with the lead pipe...
😂
Evil monster and a bigger coward. Feel for the poor nannie and her poor poor childeren..
I remember at the time of the search seeing somebody wearing a T shirt that said,
I AM NOT LORD LUCAN
fascinating!! it would be wonderful to have the full truth known
He went out into the English channel on a boat and sunk it going down to a water grave
@@RobinFereday He was too arrogant to top himself; He knew that the Old Boys Club would cover for him.
In the 60s you could take a day trip to france from Deal pier in Kent without a passport for £ 1 . Maybe there was a similar scheme at Newhaven?
Lucan was never in Newhaven they took the Corsair 2000E in a furniture van and dumped it near a police station so they couldnt miss it .
As I recall, it cost an extra 5/- if you had a moustache.
Quite a long way to Manila from Newhaven.
@@admiralbenbow5083 especialy when you got no money
Truly sad story a young lady lost her life. Rich snobs hid a murderer.
That was so interesting, and well told. I never knew all of that, thank you. 👏👏
Very interesting insight and yes we must remember an innocent lady was brutally murdered and Lady Lucan attacked. No doubt he was helped and protected by his circle. They really should hang their heads in shame but don't think they would. The story fascinates me and hope to learn the true story of where he escaped to. He certainly was too arrogant to jump off ferry. He would have much safer escape options as he stated in this interesting article
I’ve ALWAYS FELT a man like Lucan WOULD NEVER kill himself. Never. He’s gone w/o a trace. A possible staged scenario. Too clean. He went to SA for a do-over.
Fascinating. Thank you.
I always enjoyed the lucan saga. Never forgetting an innocent woman died. I was told by a journalist working on the story in the mid 70's, that Lords could get away with it. He angle was he owed to much money to to many powerful people. He had to have jumped. They would have turned him in. This wasn't the charge of the light brigade.
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He didnt jump, they had to say that, they couldn’t state that he died by his own hand in Lyall street in the early hours of Friday 8th November 1974. They’re were only fifty percent correct in saying he killed himself.
In a thread shortly before this one they actually believed he had lived in Argentina and what they wrote is very interesting and actually sounds quite plausible
Absolutely fascinating story and investigation.
Interestingly enough there is absolutely no mention of gambling club owner John Aspinal who was also a pal of Lucan . Aspinal owned property and 2 zoos in Kent and it was suspected locally that Lucan had been hidden by Aspinal and helped to get across to France
He died at Aspinalls Lyall street house early hours of Friday 8th November 1974. It’s all on my YT channel.
Aspinel formerly of the east end of London - pretty ruthless guy.
Without the lock of hair being produced and verified by DNA analysis, this is pure conjecture. If this lady is prepared to share the information publicly then why not produce the lock of hair and submit it for testing? And why not wait, as a journalist, with going to press with the story until it has been verified?
How utter correct you are. Why is it these apparent witnesses only emerge AFTER they have died 🤣🤣🤣
Lucan changed his name to Freddie Mercury and formed a band called Queen hiding in plain sight until he died
😊😊😊
Brilliant 👏 I wondered who he reminded me of 😂
I know you’re joking, but if he was him then he must have had limb shortening surgery. Lucan was 6’4, Mercury was nowhere near that height.
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Nice idea, but the timelines are too far off to be feasible. The murder happened in 1974; Queen formed in 1970. I used to see young Freddie around in London from time to time, between c1969 and 1973 - and I can vouch for the fact that he was clearly the same Freddie we see in videos like Bohemian Rhapsody from 1975, and footage from concerts in 1975 and 76 (Hammersmith Odeon and Hyde Park). 😀
Absolutely riveting.
Something I do know for sure is that many, many false passports were active and successful in the 1900s. I wish I could say more. These days, with advanced technology, are people still getting away with it? (I would doubt it). Lady Lucan was an intelligent and brave lady. I do not know how to even begin to describe him.
I thought they BBC documentary where the son of the murdered women tracked him down with a journalist after meeting Lucans brother.
They found him living as a Buddhist in Australia.
He did look like him and had the same birthday and had lived the same life in Belgravia.
It wasn't him
I know, yeah ?! 😂 @@jademcqueen5474
Mathematicians say the odds of the facial recognition system that identified him being wrong is astronomical, impossible. Facial recognition between the drag artist and the old man was subsequently done and did not match. Looks like it was Lucan.
@boxinggospel5334 I don't know who conducted that but thier bone structures alone are not the same, there's also photos of that guy in Australia when he was younger and you can see it's definitely that man. I feel bad for her son, all he wants is answer's and he's being led on by people that knew they were being filmed and used it to boost thier own fame or ego.
@boxinggospel5334 look at pics of lord lucan's confirmed son, he's identical to his dad, that man looks nothing like his dad who had strong genetics.
I think LL looks like Brad Pitt and post malone 😄 once you see it you can't unsee it
Lord Luton was a connected man. He will have gone wherever he wanted to go.
Luton perhaps?
I reported in 1988 that I & 2 other businesses associate from Australia came into contact with Lucan through another "LORD" in a Holiday resort near Manila.
Makes me ponder what else randy Andy got away with former and current Presidential approval , Royal approval ,In a New York maximum security prison on suicide watch after a suitable Plea Deal had been established Epstein's sentencing was expedited
About 20 years ago, there was a report in a New Zealand that Lord Lucan was living in rural New Zealand. The similarity between Lucan's picture and the local man was quite interesting
Very interesting story/video. Many thanks . . .
I remember about Lord Lucan and also remember about the last woman executed Rutherford ellis! A shame Lucan’s never been found but well protected it seems👀
Rutherford ellis ? I thought it was Ruth Ellis , but unlike you I had an education .
@@gordoncampbell100 Bit harsh .
@@gordoncampbell100 educate, don’t humiliate.
It is Ruth Ellis @@gordoncampbell100
@@gordoncampbell100😂 Brutal
murder is a crime unless it was done by a policeman or a aristocrat know your rights
You could compare the dna sample with genealogy sites and build the tree from matches.
Its only DNA if the hair sample includes the cell, so it has to include the root and not just a lock of hair ends
Testing hair shaft DNA may one day be possible, so hang on to it.
Excellent reporting
What an excellent expose'
According to the Wikipedia article on him, Bingham failed a screen test for the movie "Woman Times Seven" and he then declined an invitation from Cubby Broccoli to screen test for the part of James Bond in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".
I luv how he believes her 😂 well done doll, well done😊
Him asking her if it was possible to get an artificial mole done was jaw dropping…
And I'd like to interview him as soon as possible 😂 only in the afterlife my son 😂😂😂
Very well narrated
Mi6 new where he was trust me he passed away about 22 years ago
The BBC documentary referenced some police report suggesting he was still alive around 2001-2002.
That would make him 67-68 years old. Perfectly plausible.
There used to be a pub called the Lucan Arms in Staines, near where he used to live. They renamed it in the late 90's, early 2000's.
So why not ask her how tall was he? Lucan was 6ft 4inches, she would notice this…. It’s just an industry that goes round and round to make money…
Correct utter rubbish spewed out by the media short for a story over the past fifty years.
The hair would have to have a hair follicle or some shed skin for DNA. Hair itself doesn't have cells. There is genealogical DNA which can be generated from cousins, not just children. Often criminals end up in situations in which they are killed by other criminals. It is quite common that investigations of older cases are hampered, because everyone involved with the case had been murdered over a few years.
Lucan was a chronic gambler and a creature if habit. He wasn't a great intellect. Even with a name change I think he'd of actually turned up doing what he always did and been recognised. I'm more inclined to think he ended things. DNA would be the only way to try and solve that question now I think.
The police really didn't look further than Lucan. The police were sloppy and some details did not add up. Other documentaries show the discrepancies
It was a lot easier to create a new identity back then. Just one example, it was just recently uncovered here in America that a woman wanted as a suspect in 3 murders who’d been missing since 1969 died of old age in Canada in 2022. She’d been working in Canada as realtor for decades even taking out ads in local newspapers with her face pictured
*edit: her name was Sharon ‘La Pistolera’ Kinne btw
@@marlenewolffe4613I always thought it was the wife.
@@AlwysBclosingThey finally found Sharon Kinne? Wow, that’s amazing. I read a book about her
You thought Lady Lucan attacked herself?@@CL-un9gg
I remember this very well.
I always wondered about the sack. Who brought it? Was it just there in the home. It's interesting that it’s a “United States Postal Service” bag. I always found that odd. I'm an American+have never come across 1. My neighbors, a couple who have both worked for the Post Office for over 30 years+am always over their house. Never have seen 1! Like I have a higher chance than most to come across such things 1 would think-at least higher than a crime scene in Belgravia, no? I know it’s sick+petty but it has always bothered me as to where that even came from to begin with. Was it something niche one might find in Covent Garden or a Charity Shop? Or used for cargo of some sort. I need to know. Am I the only 1 bothered by this in the least?! Did it come from
The Baron?! I know it was Colonel Mustard in the library with the lead pipe.
The United Sates Canvas mail sack is the subject of a new video soon to go up on my YT channel.
How interesting 😮😮
Fascinating film and a credible witness. I liked the police theory that Graham Hill (a close friend) had flown Lucan out of the country - or at least provided his private plane for the purpose. This would fit with the idea of society friends closing ranks and aiding the fugitive. Damon would have been about 14 at the time. I wonder if he knows anything about it?
This is really quite credible
I'm sorry you say Lady Moynihan isn't a criminal, but she lived with and married one. She might not have a criminal record, but you can bet she isn't an honest person, so i take her statement very, very lightly. She would need to have some sort of proof before I would believe her, so i think your chasing the truth and need to believe in her to make a part of a story more reachable for a conclusion which probably will never have a definitive ending
Any person who marries somebody who’s previously been divorced three times has questionable integrity.
How quickly the Palace spirited him away from England. There was no way the Palace was going to let the Queen’s cousin be convicted of murder.
Oh please, tell us all the details that you have uncovered, names etc. we’ll wait.
spot on ask randy andy he will know all about it !!!
He's not the Queens cousin
Fortunately her son was less lucky, but even that was paid off around £12 million.
I wonder, could Lucan have been murdered by the establishment. If they were determined not to put him in the dock, then an easier way is just to dispose of him. It’s seems he is very invisible and to decades of hiding expensive. The other thing is that the establishment gets old and dies off, so the contacts diminish over time. How does that fit in.
His MP mates have looked after him over the years
He's an old man sitting on a beach somewhere sipping margaritas 🍹
He is long dead
It is very interesting the theory that Lucan did what he did in order to have custody of his children. How could he really love them when he would murder their mother? No child would benefit by that or feel secure or loved being looked after by a man who did that. Surely it is more likely that he wanted to possess them and convinced himself that his wife was mad? A delusionist
So, Lucan's passprt was left in London and he comes to Manila looking for a false passport but how did he enter the Philippines if he did not already have a passport?
Rich powerful friend, including as suggested here the leader of that country. Their ways are not for me and thee.
I didn't know that there were any investigative journalists left these days.
Fascinating …👏👏👏👏🏴🇬🇧
Interisting,Video,Thanks,For,Sharing,It
Fascinating story
As soon as he said the Philippines, I thought “Moynihan”
Anything was possible even if a bit messy at times under Marcos 1st , now that Meta /Zuckerburg got ,Bong Bong into power via free calls & data on F/book for a few weeks ,there was only three public meetings the third being his acceptance speech ,he dropped Bong Bong ,Imelda's affectionate name for him , his first act as President was to disband the long running bi-partisan senate committee into $US100 million , 1985s US $100 million , Duterte had to go , to much of a blunt object , although his daughter is Vice President (weird system there) , now its Ferdinand 2nd .With Musk dropping money on racists in UK Farage , in France Le Penn ,in Germany unnamed straight out white supremacist's getting back home getting rid of Vivek to Ohio , can't take the Apartheid outta that boy.An somewhat similar , what else has Randy Andy got away with ?, with current and former Presidential approval ,royal approval , in maximum security NY prison on suicide watch , after a suitable plea deal was established sentencing was expedited on Epstein ,with a little help from friends in common .What a wonderful world ,Like Melania's hat at 457s inauguration , ,straight rip off of Ian Fleming's (James Bond) odjob's hats decapitate ,at 100 yard's thrown like s a frisbee ,keep 457 at bay from 2 inches , I think it will be on sale , soon as SHP , Superior Head Protection .An anything is possible in the Philippines except divorce , as the catholics run the place only a very expensive annulment is allowed before confession ,serious identity problems internally ,where a mix of America ,an unfettered access to firearms , Chinese with gambling , an Spanish with unfettered access to Bong Bong ,largest Opus Dei population with Latin Catholicism.
What a load of RAMBLING NONSENSE / DRIVEL 🤔🤔 🥴🥴 Word salad extraordinaire 😅😅 AN infant schoolchild could have done better ! 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂 Kath the wife 🏴🇬🇧
Watch Lucan! The nanny who he killed - her biological son found Lucan recently in the Australian Outback in his 90s. He’s the only one who truly did a decent investigation to find him and I believe he has. Lucan has lived a full life and got away with murder. He literally confessed to it on camera. He and all involved in keeping him hidden or knew that he is still alive are a disgrace. Shame on them all.
Just watched it. That bloke is a fantasist. The man he claims is Lucan, really isn't. He looks absolutely nothing like Lord Lucan. I read a book 20 years ago that claimed Lucan went to india. And THAT Lucan LOOKS like LUCAN.
Did you finish the show ?
Ridiculous documentary the man was 5/6inches not 6/4 inches😂 like Lucan
The guy turned out to be someone else from a theatre background. He was living under an assumed identity but no Lucan.
and what about the video call with the suspected lucan where he talked about the nanny as though he knew her and literally said yes I am him but I’m not anymore? that swung it for me. admittedly the ending was a strong curve ball but I found the whole thing quite compelling. DNA is the key to it all even if they don’t get it whilst he’s still alive, which I believe he is. also living in plain sight, then confronted and suddenly moves to the middle of nowhere where there is no one. doing what he’s always done - running away.
Titles are supposed to elevate above suspicion from the common folk; about time titles are no longer recognised given these people have proven they are not examples of integrity & honesty in society.
Fascinating!
He also gaslit her. He hired people to anonymously telephone her and then try to convince her it didn’t happen. Even if he wasn’t a murderer, he was a domestic violence perpetrator.
10:34 This reporter thinks that your level of education dictates your level of morality.
Odd that a matching pipe was found … very odd indeed.
Lucan had no real skills outside of his posh social set. He degenerated and lost his own fortune. He got unhinged and if he was serious about getting Veronica he should have got a Hit Man, he didn't. he managed to attack the wrong person.
When reality intruded and he realised what he had done, he committed suicide.
He had no alternative and his posh friends would not and could not save him.
One story was that he went to see his friend Aspinall,who handed him a revolver and told him to "do the decent thing"
Aspinall owned a zoo which included tigers...he was constantly in trouble for them attacking staff at his private zoo...this is where the story of Lucan having been fed to tigers comes from...at first hearing utterly implausible until you learn about Aspinall.
@@nickbarber2080 I agree that anything involving Aspinall, who owned a casino as well as the zoo, is probably true.
One of his tigers actually killed a keeper.
I always felt like those close to him knew more than they were letting on. Some of what they said came across as oddly specific and dropping vague hints, maybe a bit "doth protest too much".
@@halfbakedproductions7887 Without a doubt.
He lives quietly in Sunderland ..the least likely location for a toff. Nobody in their right mind would move there, so in a way cunning. He has access to a nice yacht and is getting on a bit now but can still be seen on the sea front every year.
Have you reported him ? If not, why not ?
Sandy I think he bought a pub ! The Rovers Return !
@@NnNn-yr7mu You are getting it
so what was the breakthrough?
Very interesting. But not LORD ANTONY Moynihan - he wasn’t a Duke’s younger son - he was, as 2nd Baron, Lord Moynihan. You can’t use Lord indiscriminately like Mr. Same kind of mistake with LADY VERONICA Lucan - she was Lady Lucan - she wasn’t of the nobility before her marriage - she wasn’t an Earl’s or Duke’s daughter. You can’t use Lady the way you use Miss or Mrs. Surely a knowledgeable British journalist should know that? It may be a small thing but somehow it undermines your claims to competence.
I thought I had come across an old comment of mine. Was surprised your user name showed when I checked.
What in the world is wrong with using a person’s given name, as in Lady Veronica Lucan. Is her first name supposed to be erased? What a load of nonsense. This whole comment had nothing whatever to do with the topic of the video!
@@PollyAlice2000 Not that it matters, but you clearly don’t know and don’t understand how the British titular system works.
Exactly!!!!
I heard a theory he flew from Shoreham airport, a few miles west of Newhaven, out of England and never to be seen again.
Lucan is the reincarnated Jack the Ripper.
Jack the Ripper remains anonymous unlike Lucan
don't forget his mates like john Aspinall with his tigers was probably still owed gambling money by Lucan so they wanted him kept alive to pay them off, getting him working for them overseas running drugs meant they still got paid, Aspinall bought his zoo with the proceeds of gambling and dodgy deals
If he passed in Thailand, he'd have been cremated in all likelihood, so no grave per se.
Why assume Lord Lucan is dead? He looked about 35 in 1974.
he would now be 90
He was born 18th December 1934 and was just shy of 40 when this happened. He'd be 90 now.
But _officially_ he "died" in 1999 aged 65 because that's when he was declared legally dead. A death certificate (no idea what's on it) was issued in 2016 to allow his son to inherit the titles.
Veronica committed "Sue E. Side" on 26th September 2017 aged 80, following a self-diagnosis of Parkinson's Disease. She didn't actually have it.
Lucan vanished in 1974. His son does nothing until 2016, when he suddenly demands a death certificate so he can have the title. Sat on his hands for 40 years, because too many people (the ones who are fussy about titles) knew Lucan was still alive.
40
That is because his body was fed to the animals in the zoo why else is there a little grave at the back that says Lucan on it and why were the zookeepers told not to feed the lions and tigers for two days before he went missing and why were the keepers told not to turn up for a couple of days?
Interesting where did you find this information?
Rubbish.
@@kenneth2656 why is it rubbish? Have you got any other evidence to say different?
@@suemount6042 our family used to know one of the main zookeepers back at that time
A grave at the back of London zoo? Who allegedly fed him to the tigers & for what reason?
There's a book written about this claiming that Lucan escaped by a plane of Graham Hills to Portugal, from there he went to a portuguese enclave in Goah India with a new identity of Barry and sported a bushy beard a la David Bellamy.
The thing that puzzles me is that Lady L was petite and short in height. The nanny was quite tall and statuesque. Surely, LL would not have mistaken one for the other?
Sounds very credible.
Just makes me wonder in these social circles , what else did randy Andy get away with , with current and former presidential approval , royal approval , in a NY maximum security prison , on suicide watch , after a Plea Deal had been established, Epstein's sentencing was expedited with a little help from friends in common .
The bit I dont get how still called "Lord Lucan" and am referring to the "Lord" part, did no one bring the subget that we didn't have a load? with their question background
You have to ask for a few strands of hair (or ask the Labs how much they need). Get it tested first, then see if any family members come up on a genealogy search. If not, approach family members for DNA. Why would this woman refuse to give you hair, if she has gone this far and has never wanted money for this information she has made public? I think that's the easiest thing to try to move the case forward, compared to trying to find how he lived in the Philippines and who gave him money and where his grave is. Once you have DNA, if you happen to find his grave then there's a chance you could get DNA from that to see if it matches the hair. Once you confirm his grave is in the Philippines, you can focus on how to find out who funded him, and where and how he lived.
I believe that it is much more likely he is dead because it’s really hard to keep secrets for this long
I think he fled to South Africa. I dont think he's the man in the new series "Lucan" though.
He never went anywhere he was dead by 2am the following morning after he went on the run