In the cymbal without the crack i hear a very nasty overtone that the repaired one does not have. I definitely prefer the "repaired" one! Great video by the way.
@@ZackZweifel yes sir. Thank you, it's work in progress. I play an acoustic kit as well.(which I'd love to use, but it's at the bands rehearsal spot.) My main kit matches my bass drum on my videos. I've cracked my share of cymbals and just used the warrany when I could. So I'll definitely keep this knowledge. 👌
Oddly enough, was looking to fix this exact cymbal that has a bell edge crack. Must be something with the manufacturing for this specific series from Sabian that creates some odd stress points. I've never cracked a cymbal in the core before.
I think you're 100% correct because I have a couple that have cracked the exact same way... all XS... never put 2 and 2 together but they're the only I've cracked like that
A little info with lathe crack repairs…. Its much easier with a stepped drill bit for each end of the crack. What ive found though with lathe cracks is that you cannot leave them narrow repairs regardless of how smooth you sand it. The vibrations will concentrate into the drilled ends of the repair and make it crack again. Ive started making my lathe repairs at least 1/2” wide bc its easier to get your grinding and sanding barrel bits into the repair and it helps ensure that you have a very straight lines with your cutting wheel. The vibrations wont concentrate so much into the drilled ends with the repair being so wide.
no offense but if you hit the cymbals dead on like that with the wing nuts tightened like that, yeah you will crack cymbals a lot. hit diagonally and hit slightly to the left or right of the edge of the cymbal that is closest to you. and dont tighten them wing nuts. heck for crashes theres no point in even having a wing nut imo. i let my crashes ring out. for splashes and chines i can understand there might be a need for a less sustained sound.
No offense taken. I play aggressively and I know it. :) I also keep the tighter wing nuts so they do rebound less when I'm going into a crash rage on one of them. That doesn't help. I'd also prefer no wing nut and large swoopy strikes with lots of movement but it's not helpful for how I like to play. But I agree with you 100%
@@ZackZweifel might be alternative ways of making less sustained crashes without strangling them. if u get fast crashes and stick a bit of duct tape on the bottom theyl decay fast. anyway you seem to be an experienced drummer so im sure im not saying anything you havent thought of.
I'm glad there are videos that help you save your damaged cymbals. But you cannot repair a cymbal. Definitely not by cutting the damaged area out. If that were true, why not do the same to a drum shell? Damaged...oh just cut it out and presto. ......notta chance!
In the cymbal without the crack i hear a very nasty overtone that the repaired one does not have. I definitely prefer the "repaired" one! Great video by the way.
Funny truth, I have a 20" AAX Crash that I also had to fix... and it sounds a lot better now and has become my favorite cymbal!
Very cool tutorial 👌 Thanks for sharing Zack!!! 👍
No problem 👍 Thanks for watching!
Very cool! Appreciate the info and sounds great!
Thanks brother! Luckily you don't have to worry about these issues with an e-kit lol loved Chop Suey BTW. And finally more camera angles. Nice work
@@ZackZweifel yes sir. Thank you, it's work in progress. I play an acoustic kit as well.(which I'd love to use, but it's at the bands rehearsal spot.) My main kit matches my bass drum on my videos. I've cracked my share of cymbals and just used the warrany when I could. So I'll definitely keep this knowledge. 👌
Oops there’s no oops in cymbal repair lol. Good video Zack.
Hahaha I thought that was so great I couldn't take it out! 😅
Oddly enough, was looking to fix this exact cymbal that has a bell edge crack. Must be something with the manufacturing for this specific series from Sabian that creates some odd stress points. I've never cracked a cymbal in the core before.
I think you're 100% correct because I have a couple that have cracked the exact same way... all XS... never put 2 and 2 together but they're the only I've cracked like that
@@ZackZweifel mine is in an almost perfect arc shape right with the lathe about 1/2 from the bell.
A little info with lathe crack repairs…. Its much easier with a stepped drill bit for each end of the crack. What ive found though with lathe cracks is that you cannot leave them narrow repairs regardless of how smooth you sand it. The vibrations will concentrate into the drilled ends of the repair and make it crack again. Ive started making my lathe repairs at least 1/2” wide bc its easier to get your grinding and sanding barrel bits into the repair and it helps ensure that you have a very straight lines with your cutting wheel. The vibrations wont concentrate so much into the drilled ends with the repair being so wide.
It's funny I had them out too. Just decided to drill it normal instead. But was gonna use a step bit
no offense but if you hit the cymbals dead on like that with the wing nuts tightened like that, yeah you will crack cymbals a lot. hit diagonally and hit slightly to the left or right of the edge of the cymbal that is closest to you. and dont tighten them wing nuts. heck for crashes theres no point in even having a wing nut imo. i let my crashes ring out. for splashes and chines i can understand there might be a need for a less sustained sound.
No offense taken. I play aggressively and I know it. :) I also keep the tighter wing nuts so they do rebound less when I'm going into a crash rage on one of them. That doesn't help. I'd also prefer no wing nut and large swoopy strikes with lots of movement but it's not helpful for how I like to play. But I agree with you 100%
@@ZackZweifel might be alternative ways of making less sustained crashes without strangling them. if u get fast crashes and stick a bit of duct tape on the bottom theyl decay fast. anyway you seem to be an experienced drummer so im sure im not saying anything you havent thought of.
I'm glad there are videos that help you save your damaged cymbals. But you cannot repair a cymbal. Definitely not by cutting the damaged area out. If that were true, why not do the same to a drum shell? Damaged...oh just cut it out and presto. ......notta chance!
this is true... very true..