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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • StarCraft 2 Tournament 2023 ESL SC2 Cup - sOs returns with his top tier Protoss mindgames and puts Dark on the back foot in this dramatic Protoss vs Zerg series!
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  • @MikeMaragni
    @MikeMaragni 10 місяців тому +49

    sOs was my favorite player for a long time, I'm happy to see one of his games^^

  • @MusicGodAndMyLaptop
    @MusicGodAndMyLaptop 10 місяців тому +7

    The "Jimmy, what are we at?" -moment is actually a great way to keep track of what episode we are watching. Provided you have enough math skills. And sadly, I never like before I am reminded. Thank you, Winter. I do like this.
    #remindme
    #atwhatcost

  • @josuepereira9782
    @josuepereira9782 10 місяців тому +8

    sOs was doing good on game 3, preventing Dark from expanding and building his flying fleet to deal with Lurkers and Dark did a casual Nydus invasion on his main and just won the game.

    • @chloesmith4065
      @chloesmith4065 10 місяців тому

      Protoss is totally fine 🫠🫠🫠

    • @jeffreywarf
      @jeffreywarf 10 місяців тому

      Nydus really needs a Nerf

    • @laureloneiros1500
      @laureloneiros1500 10 місяців тому +2

      @@jeffreywarfidk, sounds like you just need to put some cannons in your base. The thing that needs nerfs is terran's everything, ghost, widow mine, mule and just the bio army in general

    • @jeffreywarf
      @jeffreywarf 10 місяців тому

      @@laureloneiros1500 so the response to a nydus is to make a Cannon ring at EVERY base just in case? That's unreasonable for a building that can be built literally anywhere and just end a game in an instant

    • @jeffreywarf
      @jeffreywarf 10 місяців тому +1

      @@laureloneiros1500 also, yes, widow mine needs to be nerfed. Make it require tech lab and get rid of armory cloak

  • @crescentmoon2806
    @crescentmoon2806 10 місяців тому +11

    sOs giving me real Protoss Innovation vibes with his builds

  • @thePauchu
    @thePauchu 10 місяців тому +83

    Regarding the difference in the models for DTs, the only other unit I know if is the Ghost, that has a like 1% chance to look like Nova.

    • @GotEmAll1337
      @GotEmAll1337 10 місяців тому +11

      Didn't know that. Accurate % of women in the military though... nice touch, Blizz.

    • @chenling2937
      @chenling2937 10 місяців тому

      16% of US military are women.

    • @MrGeorgeFlorcus
      @MrGeorgeFlorcus 10 місяців тому +7

      @@GotEmAll1337 Might be the only "nice touch" pertaining to women that Blizzard is responsible for

  • @thelunaticco9320
    @thelunaticco9320 10 місяців тому +1

    That first game made me remember why I fucking love this game, I love Yolotoss so much!

  • @RedBairnMedia
    @RedBairnMedia 10 місяців тому +14

    I'm almost tempted to re-install the game, as it looks like by law of averages I'd get a game against Dark.

  • @brentmantel141
    @brentmantel141 10 місяців тому +4

    As for game 1, I always see Protoss players acting skittish with their units, I know Colossi and Stalkers are very vulnerable units, but they do 0 damage when retreating(without blink) and often just get blown up anyway, Dark mostly seemed surprised by how effective they are when they aren't literally running away.

  • @YoshiKirishima
    @YoshiKirishima 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow maybe it's just cus sOs got a good start, but I'm really surprised and happy to see sOs is getting back into form! Before he left, he was struggling with PvZ a lot, especially in macro games (i mean, Protoss in general was struggling vs Zerg, but yeah). He seems a lot more confident and solid now!
    Damn that last game though, if only he got even 1 tempest out, he coulda pushed those lurkers back.
    I feel like sOs might have given up a little too early, it was still 63 drones vs 58 probes, and the army supply was still pretty even. I guess he lacked detection but he could have cleared the lurker at his 3rd with disruptors while keeping the army from going into his natural. Dark only had like 1.5 mining bases left, sOs had much fresher bases and a ton of minerals to remake Nexus+Gates. He was floating like 3k 1k at the end, he still had 2 Robos and coulda pumped out double Immortals, and rebuilt some gates quicker at his other bases and stabilized I think. He still had 2 Disruptors and 1 Colossus to deal with the Hydras. If he was able to clear things out eventually, he could quickly repower his pylon and get those 2 Tempests out to push back all Lurkers until Viper/Corruptor tech came, and still have all that money.
    It sucks but i think also sOs could have actually just killed Dark's 4th before going back home too. 3 Lurkers, 1 obs, he coulda sniped all 3 and then Dark woulda been almost not mining anymore. Also it sucks when the 1 of his Disruptor Nova's moved at the last second, he could have killed 3 more very red Lurkers.
    Anyway sOs put up a really close set despite being a little sloppy in places, if he can clean his play back up a little, it seems like he might be returning to GSL caliber soon! Last season he barely didn't make it through the qualifiers, losing to a Creator who if he beat Classic I think was in shape to win it all.

    • @chloesmith4065
      @chloesmith4065 10 місяців тому +1

      Agreed I think the game was not over, Protoss had a disadvantage but I think it was still a playable position.

  • @NickDanzinger
    @NickDanzinger 10 місяців тому +1

    9:01 That stalker got yeeted into orbit

  • @e7venjedi
    @e7venjedi 10 місяців тому +1

    That Lurker checkmate was brutal. 👏

  • @quantumdot7393
    @quantumdot7393 10 місяців тому +5

    Someone needs to tell SoS that immortals are a unit in this game

  • @fable4813
    @fable4813 10 місяців тому +2

    10:02 sOs: The Drunken Brawler is so funny

  • @slevinlaine
    @slevinlaine 10 місяців тому +3

    1:02 I ABSOLUTELY love that gesture Winter hahah. You are like fine wine better with time!
    20:00 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH.

  • @jaytea6516
    @jaytea6516 10 місяців тому +1

    "50 Shades... with glaves" i had to explain to my wife why i laughed to suddenly at this

  • @kylebroussard5952
    @kylebroussard5952 10 місяців тому +6

    I think this is the only way to play Dark. Early Aggro to keep creep at bat and offset his tendency toward max eco. Then you can be on 5 base and dry him out instead of 3base vs him having the whole map

    • @ironmonkey1512
      @ironmonkey1512 10 місяців тому +2

      Not unusual for Dark to open a series with a half-hearted attempt, especially against a second tier player. I think that beat him more than anything...

    • @chloesmith4065
      @chloesmith4065 10 місяців тому +1

      yeah... maybe dark looked past him... Should never overlook sOs even if dark might think that sOs is "past his prime"

  • @swarm4196
    @swarm4196 10 місяців тому

    Adding my contribution here, the DTs has 2 skins whereas the zerg cocoon morphed from larvae has 3 different skins ! You also have the Ghost which have 1% chance of having a nova skin with the "Covert ops" skin

  • @michaelwoodby5261
    @michaelwoodby5261 10 місяців тому +2

    I was in a hurry to hop on and declare my love for SOS, and 50 others beat me to it. He's like Protoss Gumi, making big brain tactical choices instead of relying on micro.

  • @MusicGodAndMyLaptop
    @MusicGodAndMyLaptop 10 місяців тому

    2:12 ❤Dad jokes❤

  • @CantusTropus
    @CantusTropus 10 місяців тому +9

    For the algorithm

  • @alexr.138
    @alexr.138 10 місяців тому +1

    Zeratul blades FTW. Zeratul, you will be remembered. RIP

  • @wotwot6868
    @wotwot6868 5 місяців тому

    Drunken Brawler is ByuN. While s0s is the Joker

  • @spokoman23
    @spokoman23 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow, very impressed by sOs, great games and mind games. Thanks Winrer. I subbed

  • @MH_Ward
    @MH_Ward 10 місяців тому +1

    damn i love the way sOs plays

  • @martinprovo2389
    @martinprovo2389 10 місяців тому

    I think what you're looking for with the possible 3rd DT strat is "It's so overt, it's covert." 😂

  • @Ingkarat1987
    @Ingkarat1987 10 місяців тому

    all game i'm only focus on what picture is on Winter T-shirt, lol

  • @MH_Ward
    @MH_Ward 10 місяців тому

    WELCOME BACK sOs

  • @WizardyDylan
    @WizardyDylan 10 місяців тому

    i like to think he has an alexa that responds to the name jimmy in the corner of his room thats keeping track of the like and subscribe numbers

  • @bluelynx4493
    @bluelynx4493 10 місяців тому

    I've been watching your commentary from the very beginning. Never ever have I left a comment. So here you go. I appreciate ya.

  • @MichaelLewis-fx8eq
    @MichaelLewis-fx8eq 10 місяців тому

    See Winter, watch Winter, like Winter, comment for Winter. Simple as that.

  • @Buddha2723
    @Buddha2723 10 місяців тому

    Why can't roaches tunnel under buildings? Building foundations goes down to the bedrock and floating Protoss buildings have an energy field that holds them in place and acts as an underground force field. Read a book! :D

  • @SkilledArrow
    @SkilledArrow 10 місяців тому

    sOs is my absolute favourite to watch

  • @jeffreywarf
    @jeffreywarf 10 місяців тому

    Once again nydus lurker just ends a game for basically no investment

  • @jimdrive2164
    @jimdrive2164 10 місяців тому +2

    Would anyone really complain if they gave the pylon some thrusters and let them fly above their location and down? They'd even be vulnerable to air units that time

    • @Wwillswords
      @Wwillswords 10 місяців тому +5

      Never underestimate people ability to complain

    • @SD-jf7nb
      @SD-jf7nb 10 місяців тому

      Listen: Protoss buildings don't fly for a reason pal, trying find CC's floating in the corner is bad enough.

    • @Wwillswords
      @Wwillswords 10 місяців тому

      @SD-jf7nb he wasn't suggesting they fly, but rather they float. They can't move but rather lift and lower like a supply depot but up as opposed to down.

  • @GregHuffman1987
    @GregHuffman1987 6 місяців тому

    I've heard great things about s0s

  • @theculturedgentleman3699
    @theculturedgentleman3699 10 місяців тому

    Dark is just CHAOS Incarnate!!

  • @dunngyllite7883
    @dunngyllite7883 10 місяців тому +1

    Wait - are you rocking a Bob Ross T-Shirt ?!

    • @wumm7213
      @wumm7213 10 місяців тому +1

      searched the whole comment section to see if anyone except me noticed this haha

  • @pivot203
    @pivot203 4 місяці тому

    How did sOs bring a set against strongest kor zerg? It's amazing.

  • @petrowi
    @petrowi 10 місяців тому

    I've watched the channel for ages and still don't know if "Jimmy" exists

  • @mohamadambrose8717
    @mohamadambrose8717 10 місяців тому +2

    its always been dark!

  • @ezlyfe1069
    @ezlyfe1069 10 місяців тому

    game 1 zerg went all-in and had to turn home because of DT and still holds the protoss 3 base push comfortably with tier 1/2 units. balance issue

  • @clorkmagnus
    @clorkmagnus 10 місяців тому +1

    My fav player of all time. sOs

  • @TheStaniG
    @TheStaniG 10 місяців тому

    Did something change this video? The aspect ratio is off for me, I have bars on top and bottom now when fitting to screen.

  • @rodolfomarrufo1185
    @rodolfomarrufo1185 10 місяців тому

    Archons atack with both hands ,acording distance....

  • @CorruptorPeste
    @CorruptorPeste 10 місяців тому

    Hello darkness my old friend

  • @jasonwood8493
    @jasonwood8493 10 місяців тому

    What a first game!

  • @Mr.Beauregarde
    @Mr.Beauregarde 10 місяців тому

    Ghosts too. But the alternate ghost is hands down the better.

  • @joemoore1023
    @joemoore1023 10 місяців тому

    Winter is the great! Thanks for another great video. 😊 ❤

  • @eldenbling2615
    @eldenbling2615 10 місяців тому

    Winter where are the Serral games at?! Love Dark, but can we change it up?

  • @mumblety96
    @mumblety96 10 місяців тому

    Badass cast, man. Why don't Protoss use cannons in their mineral lines? And wall off?? Silver league hero wants to know.

  • @googie_140
    @googie_140 10 місяців тому

    I think the goliath in the campaign had randomized colors

  • @danielgates5128
    @danielgates5128 10 місяців тому

    Jimmy has been on it lately

  • @ManDuderGuy
    @ManDuderGuy 10 місяців тому +1

    Viper Yank OP, nerf Viper Yank.

  • @albert1valentin
    @albert1valentin 10 місяців тому +1

    Hay winter would you please cast the maru vs. serral game. Maru finally took a map, and I have been waiting all year to see it happen. Serial is a monster, but I am Terran, and I have been watching maru since he saved us from classic. Thank you, and you should know I think you are the best caster out there right now. I pray Sc2 never dies. Thank you again.

  • @TorukMakto843
    @TorukMakto843 10 місяців тому

    The scythe is way cooler like the grim reaper

  • @MH_Ward
    @MH_Ward 10 місяців тому

    1hp colo holy shit

  • @James-uk4xi
    @James-uk4xi 10 місяців тому

    You think sOs's wall is bad, I played terran the other day after putting racks at my natural ramp it took FIVE depots to finish the wall

  • @venkatchait007
    @venkatchait007 10 місяців тому

    rejected the meta and substituted his own, fix your title.

  • @verihimthered2418
    @verihimthered2418 10 місяців тому

    Ah, what happen to no stargate

  • @widowmines231
    @widowmines231 10 місяців тому +1

    First widowmine

  • @SlouchingSaint
    @SlouchingSaint 10 місяців тому +3

    Winter don't u think that in 3rd game he leave a little bit too early? 3k/1k gas in a bank plus almost same army value.

    • @cousinpatsey2471
      @cousinpatsey2471 10 місяців тому +2

      I don't think it was too early. He had little production left, even if he cleans up the army at home well, by the time he gets across map to start getting damage in, Dark will have rebuilt his army.
      sOs would've needed, like, 3 straight perfect fights to not lose there. I think it was a fine tap point.

    • @YoshiKirishima
      @YoshiKirishima 10 місяців тому

      I feel he had a decent chance to stabilize. Dark had only 1.5 mining bases that were running low, sOs had 2 mining bases that were much fresher.
      Enough money to have added 6 gates, start double Immortal production, and still have 1500 minerals and 800 gas to spare. Enough to remake a Robo Bay and Stargates/Fleet Beacon (if he let Dark kill the 2 Stargates, he woulda gotten a lot of money back from the unfinished Tempests).
      Dark didn't have Viper tech or Corruptor tech yet to deal with Tempests.
      He should have started those gates and immortal production right when the lurkers came into his main and he woulda been fine IMO.

    • @chloesmith4065
      @chloesmith4065 10 місяців тому

      I agree the game wasn't over. More probes than drones too.

  • @dontpokethekenny
    @dontpokethekenny 10 місяців тому +1

    I dont understand why professional protiess players shift into fleet beacon just to never attack witht heir army and get abducted over snd over avain until they lose. Should juts fight thiugh lurkers with immortals and gate eay units.

    • @GrippeeTV
      @GrippeeTV 10 місяців тому +6

      Because Protoss have the worst detection by far and it’s incredibly easy to lose your observers with a ground based army, since you already have to micro the warp prism and ground units and not to mention no gateway units stack up to mid/late game Zerg and just get shredded

    • @chloesmith4065
      @chloesmith4065 10 місяців тому

      mothership should be a detector... (And IMHO maybe should also have an ability to generate a warp field like a warp prism.)

  • @nac9494
    @nac9494 10 місяців тому

    For Karl!

  • @obviouslyohno
    @obviouslyohno 10 місяців тому

    WTH is Jimmy ?

  • @Slickshadow11
    @Slickshadow11 10 місяців тому

    I don't know what I would do without watching this channel, idk why but this is the best part of my day

  • @Tipples801
    @Tipples801 10 місяців тому

    Would you be interested in playing against me? In some Sc2
    Im decent gold level almost plat 1v1 but for some reason my team play Im master class!!

  • @TimmyInTarky
    @TimmyInTarky 10 місяців тому +18

    After a tunneling incident on the Zerg's home planet Char, causing almost a complete wipeout of the first few of the new strand of Zerg - the Roaches, the Zerg common consciousness developed a new core memory and phobia of digging under structures.

    • @SD-jf7nb
      @SD-jf7nb 10 місяців тому +3

      Later, in thrall to the reina de navas, they evolved the psionic ability to repel buildings trying land on top of them.

  • @EyesonEthics
    @EyesonEthics 10 місяців тому +24

    Thanks for the content winter I know StarCraft isn’t that popular of a game anymore but somehow you make it so entertaining appreciate you ❤

  • @nar2130
    @nar2130 10 місяців тому +16

    YES! He's getting back to form! My favorite protoss of all time!!

  • @TheNerdForAllSeasons
    @TheNerdForAllSeasons 10 місяців тому +2

    s0s in 2023?! I fuck with it

  • @brentmantel141
    @brentmantel141 10 місяців тому +1

    Bless Winter for doing this every day. I watch ALL of these videos and your commentary really makes them for me.

  • @Lordofhollows15
    @Lordofhollows15 10 місяців тому +1

    Well shit protoss is strong? Nvm

  • @prometheussybil8239
    @prometheussybil8239 10 місяців тому

    Zeratul is the OG. Dagger is clearly cooler and better than the scythe DTs. Plus a scythe is not practical at all for fighting.

  • @RomOne59
    @RomOne59 10 місяців тому

    - Hey , i changed meta protoss because protoss is the worst race and lose.
    - cool, so you win
    - I just change protoss meta, but protoss is always the worst race

  • @dylanrandle
    @dylanrandle 10 місяців тому

    These transitions into asking for likes/subscribes are truly impressive

  • @HatedHatred
    @HatedHatred 10 місяців тому

    Holy fuck I love Nydus plays. It's such a sucker move.

  • @eldenbling2615
    @eldenbling2615 10 місяців тому

    What up with the George Bush and Trump references?!

  • @DSzaks
    @DSzaks 10 місяців тому

    sometimes watching starcraft is just depressing.

  • @beautyorpower5288
    @beautyorpower5288 10 місяців тому

    jcole pride is the devil on loop for this cast, yw
    ps 2x obv

  • @Swordmaster7th
    @Swordmaster7th 10 місяців тому

    Jimmy is a great supporting co worker.

  • @TheDaylon21
    @TheDaylon21 10 місяців тому

    Love to see sOs back in the saddle

  • @jennifer_dreamzzz
    @jennifer_dreamzzz 10 місяців тому

  • @Darchias
    @Darchias 10 місяців тому

    Female Nerazim use the scythe, male Nerazim use the psi-blade.

  • @arjay2002ph
    @arjay2002ph 10 місяців тому

    i like this underwater map.
    when a unit gets killed off it just floats away 😂

  • @GameFuMaster
    @GameFuMaster 10 місяців тому

    not sure why Dark just sat on roach/ravager in game 1 for so long

  • @danielbrannon8371
    @danielbrannon8371 10 місяців тому

    Winter doesn't read comments

  • @alwayskindasleepy69
    @alwayskindasleepy69 10 місяців тому +1

    Obviously burrowed roaches can't move through buildings because they're blocked by the basement!