The wing might be stalling, Possibly reducing the size of the control surface will work. Having that long surface end at a tip may be causing tip stall at the end of the elevon. from a top view it is almost a 1/3 of the wing deflecting air flow, food for thought. ABSOLUTELY NAILED it on the design. Awesome job!
Thanks for another great video ! Really looking forward to the files to print one of these awesome planes - well done in designing this bad boy ! Best Regards . . . Eddie from over the pond in the UK.
It's really cool to see the batwing fly. I'm glad that you have gotten the battery compartment and vertical stabs(hopefully) figured out. Just my opinion here, I'd somewhat reduce the length of the two cones on each side of the bat. compartment. I say this because I know that you wanted the simmetry with the wing tips and still get the cg. It does look just a touch odd. I hope to get the plans when you're finished. What an excellent creation!! AirHammer out!!
I have a feeling that with so much wing in front of the CG when the wing goes down with a negative angle of attack it just nose dives. I'm thinking some canards would help. Start small and work your way up. Also, I would suggest testing out what is happening. Hold throttle level flight, pitch down past 0 angle of attack. And maybe start three mistakes high.
Maybe on the down direction, the Profile enforces a stronger pull on the elevators. Are the Servos strong enough to hold that? You got a large leverage surface there (elevator had a prolonged surface area with a strange bend in it, which creaties a strong angle of attack. But That should work in Both directions)
That last Landing was amazing as well it just kind of laid down on the ground and didn't even need landing gear just kind of like just laying on its belly
Like the SR-71 the wind blanks out the airflow over the surfaces when the conditions are right. Make some slots in the wings to ensure airflow stays flowing over the wing and surfaces. Flying wings like 15% CG
@@hotlapkyle No kinda like built in slats strategically placed openings with a smooth transition that delays stall and allows controls to not mush out too quick.
Could the front of the bat wings which are way in front of the CofG be causing the nose dip? When in goes into a negative angle to the airflow they act like paddles to push the nose faster down?
What’s strange is I can push the nose down (down elevator) and it flies straight and I can fly it up and down no problem. It’s when I let go of the right stick.
are you using spektrum electronics? They program weird glitches and errors into their stuff. One of the errors they do is very similar to what you are having. I had that happen to me on a turbo timber. everything was going good then out of nowhere it just nose planted into the ground.
Ok im noticing the drop in the nose and it looks to be an aerodynamics issue when the change in cross winds happens it may possibly be losing lift for just that brief moment
Of course I only have the video to observe but it seemed from watching the video it was dipping in the same part of the field and the same altitude. Could there be some kind of radio interference out there?
Another one, it flies nicely most of the time, but does it need to have throttle all the time to stay stable? Someone below mentioned that you may add canards in the nose and that could help? 👍💪✌
@@hotlapkyle I noticed it just suddenly drops a bit until you can catch it or not. I am amazed how little damage it has had, having the glue is beneficial for sure.
Been flying for many years. Watching your plane, do that nose down. I've seen that many times usually a glitch in the radio, but with the using escs. Now, sometimes the ESC has a in the BC circuit has a glitch, and it'll cause your service to flip down a little bit. It only happens for like a hundredth of a second, but at that speed that's long enough
Only dives correcting a left turn? How about elevons? In a left turn the right one is down - to level out the left goes down so a sticking down right will cause this.
Hey that's possible but one thing. We all saw him moving the control surfaces with no sticking and he and I and many modelers have assembled many planes with this in mind and always inspect for that. I really don't think Kyle would miss that. Maybe if he moves his sticks slowly he could see either a servo glitch or a control surface behaving strangely somehow. If it was sticking like you say it would do that every time he corrects out of a left banking turn which almost all of his turns were. The way that thing is behaving I think it's a servo glitch in one of them. I bet he is moving gear around from plane to plane so maybe those servos experienced a crash and got internally damage on the little tiny circuit board inside?? IDK you idea is still a possibility but like I said I don't think he would overlook that. My zagi did that after numerous midair crashes and flying into a tree one day when my friend made me a gentlemans bet that I couldn't fly between the two trees without hitting one. I made it the first time.....
@@MrMagoo321 Thanks for pointing out a shit attitude on this channel so I can block it. Since all possible faults would have been ruled out then it MUST be a poor design. My time will be better spent elsewhere. Even your own post below addresses a possible control surface issue but if someone else has the idea…
I think you’re getting some multipath signal. First thing I would do is move the antenna. I bet it’s just not going in front of the plane. Also, I’ve been wondering… do you plan on making the wing more airfoil shaped?
Dude I can't get enough this is so bad ass!
It looks like it is happening in the same spot of the field, maybe there is a dead zone some how.
Pretty amazing. I can definitely tell how excited you are to fly this. Awesome.
The wing might be stalling, Possibly reducing the size of the control surface will work. Having that long surface end at a tip may be causing tip stall at the end of the elevon. from a top view it is almost a 1/3 of the wing deflecting air flow, food for thought. ABSOLUTELY NAILED it on the design. Awesome job!
And now it needs head tracker FPV! Super cool man!
Thanks for another great video ! Really looking forward to the files to print one of these awesome planes - well done in designing this bad boy !
Best Regards . . . Eddie from over the pond in the UK.
Thank you Eddie!
Badass...
It's really cool to see the batwing fly. I'm glad that you have gotten the battery compartment and vertical stabs(hopefully) figured out. Just my opinion here, I'd somewhat reduce the length of the two cones on each side of the bat. compartment. I say this because I know that you wanted the simmetry with the wing tips and still get the cg. It does look just a touch odd. I hope to get the plans when you're finished. What an excellent creation!!
AirHammer out!!
Wish I could! I kept the battery compartment (nose) as short as possible! It’s literally long enough to fit a heavy battery to balance the cg
I have a feeling that with so much wing in front of the CG when the wing goes down with a negative angle of attack it just nose dives. I'm thinking some canards would help. Start small and work your way up. Also, I would suggest testing out what is happening. Hold throttle level flight, pitch down past 0 angle of attack. And maybe start three mistakes high.
I just don’t want to hurt the look of the batwing from the original shape
I think people would prefer to keep the shape more scale and run a gyro
Very cool! I would maybe add some small canards to the nose area as this is kind of a forward slope wing plane.
That is so cool
Dude you do what Lockheed Martin can't. Many cudo's for making this hobby fun. The look of that thing is unreal...and it freaking flys!
I got northrup Grumman beat lol. New plane the X-29 flies awesome without a gyro
Maybe on the down direction, the Profile enforces a stronger pull on the elevators. Are the Servos strong enough to hold that? You got a large leverage surface there (elevator had a prolonged surface area with a strange bend in it, which creaties a strong angle of attack. But That should work in Both directions)
That last Landing was amazing as well it just kind of laid down on the ground and didn't even need landing gear just kind of like just laying on its belly
Just mental! I keep showing people at work. Congrats, it's cool.
That makes me happy!
awesome flight and great job.....thumbs up👍👍
Flight on rails, love it.
Like the SR-71 the wind blanks out the airflow over the surfaces when the conditions are right. Make some slots in the wings to ensure airflow stays flowing over the wing and surfaces. Flying wings like 15% CG
You mean like air fences?
@@hotlapkyle No kinda like built in slats strategically placed openings with a smooth transition that delays stall and allows controls to not mush out too quick.
Good job Kyle. It’s very cool :)
I think on the nose between the two round things the bevel will force down the nose when it hits a certain wind condition.
It came out of that bad throw like a champ😎
I’ve learned to be a ninja on the sticks for crappy throws lol. I’ve saved countless planes
Could the front of the bat wings which are way in front of the CofG be causing the nose dip? When in goes into a negative angle to the airflow they act like paddles to push the nose faster down?
Good thought
What’s strange is I can push the nose down (down elevator) and it flies straight and I can fly it up and down no problem. It’s when I let go of the right stick.
Interesting Elevon setup. Did you design them yourself, or were they part of the design?
I designed the entire plane
are you using spektrum electronics? They program weird glitches and errors into their stuff. One of the errors they do is very similar to what you are having. I had that happen to me on a turbo timber. everything was going good then out of nowhere it just nose planted into the ground.
Ok im noticing the drop in the nose and it looks to be an aerodynamics issue when the change in cross winds happens it may possibly be losing lift for just that brief moment
Of course I only have the video to observe but it seemed from watching the video it was dipping in the same part of the field and the same altitude. Could there be some kind of radio interference out there?
Good job! Tell me if you need an illustrator for that..
yeah it is not a random stall, as you know, since it is always in the same area/direction of flight.
Another one, it flies nicely most of the time, but does it need to have throttle all the time to stay stable?
Someone below mentioned that you may add canards in the nose and that could help?
👍💪✌
No it’s actually intermittent. Full throttle off just glides perfect
@@hotlapkyle I noticed it just suddenly drops a bit until you can catch it or not. I am amazed how little damage it has had, having the glue is beneficial for sure.
One other thing. Have you thought about Patreon? Because I'm in.
Very nice... Is it 3d printed? And what size motor did you use?
Yup all my designs are 3d printed. It uses a 50mm Xfly edf and a 3600 4s lipo
Been flying for many years. Watching your plane, do that nose down. I've seen that many times usually a glitch in the radio, but with the using escs. Now, sometimes the ESC has a in the BC circuit has a glitch, and it'll cause your service to flip down a little bit. It only happens for like a hundredth of a second, but at that speed that's long enough
I think you are on to something!
Thanks I may swap it out
A quick question. Would a 1kg reel of LW PLA be enough to print this model?
Absolutely it’s about 650g if I remember correctly
gopro settings? just curious about framerate, and horizontal lock?
Insta ACE pro on 4k /60 with horizon lock 👍🏻
☺️
Change out to ESC looks like it's glitching up. It's cutting power and you're not being able to pull up
I hope you will be selling the STL file for this model.
Absolutely. Within a few days
TAKE MY $$ NOW!!❤
I still want to print one of your X 29's. O
I want to print one of your X20 nines and the dagger 1. Then I'll do this bat plane
😁👍🏻
I’m painting the X-29 before the video
Only dives correcting a left turn? How about elevons? In a left turn the right one is down - to level out the left goes down so a sticking down right will cause this.
Hey that's possible but one thing. We all saw him moving the control surfaces with no sticking and he and I and many modelers have assembled many planes with this in mind and always inspect for that. I really don't think Kyle would miss that. Maybe if he moves his sticks slowly he could see either a servo glitch or a control surface behaving strangely somehow. If it was sticking like you say it would do that every time he corrects out of a left banking turn which almost all of his turns were. The way that thing is behaving I think it's a servo glitch in one of them. I bet he is moving gear around from plane to plane so maybe those servos experienced a crash and got internally damage on the little tiny circuit board inside?? IDK you idea is still a possibility but like I said I don't think he would overlook that. My zagi did that after numerous midair crashes and flying into a tree one day when my friend made me a gentlemans bet that I couldn't fly between the two trees without hitting one. I made it the first time.....
@@MrMagoo321 You took the long way of spelling out my lazy shortcut - surface not working right for whatever reason…
@@kmatch1 no shit but your wrong. He would've caught your idea by now
@@MrMagoo321 Thanks for pointing out a shit attitude on this channel so I can block it. Since all possible faults would have been ruled out then it MUST be a poor design. My time will be better spent elsewhere. Even your own post below addresses a possible control surface issue but if someone else has the idea…
Possibly glitching servos? IDK that nose dip is weird but I think it's a glitch in your radio gear somewhere. I've had glitchy servos before
6th gen fighter jet!
I think you’re getting some multipath signal. First thing I would do is move the antenna. I bet it’s just not going in front of the plane.
Also, I’ve been wondering… do you plan on making the wing more airfoil shaped?
Those Lemon rxs aren't all that good if there the older version
Day 2 of asking for a Yak-141
Can you send me the file?
Naw, this one isn't interesting to me at all.
The dipping may be caused by Penguin interference. Remember, he took control of the Batmobile once.
Will you be posting any models for sale?
Definitely. The Dagger 1 and X29 are basically done
@@hotlapkyleI'll be interested in a Batwing. I already have a Joker themed 75mm whoop build.