Former MI6 chief predicts how the war in Ukraine will end
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2022
- "Western policy is for this to end in a way that it actually has finished rather than just provided Putin with some kind of frozen conflict."
Putin will not stop until "he is fought to a standstill", former MI6 chief Alex Younger tells #TimesRadio.
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I didn’t know there was a war in Yugoslavia. I thought the country no longer existed
He probably just slipped up, but the fact nobody corrected him was a little strange.
I'm pretty shocked and horrified to hear that myself .. the poor people of Yugoslavia eh ..
Well spotted. He is showing his age.
Might be the sounds in English. All of Europe, Ukraine and Yugoslavia starts with the same sound in English..
5:14: The old interviewer (don't know who the Times Radio male interviewer's name) did, indeed, say Yugoslavia, which is a mistake. That's a bit odd, but it's a mistake we've all made when having conversations (no matter our age). A correction (small type at the bottom, for example) would have been nice.
5:10 "Now that we do have a terrible war going on in Yugoslavia" I must be out of the loop.
Ukraine, Yugoslavia... whatever, right? :D
Ukraine is primarily a Slavic nation and generally southwest of the largest Slavic population so calling them Yugoslavia... Yeah, nah.
@@ariochiv Unfortunately this is how many see it ;( As someone who has born in Czechoslovakia, and live very near Ukrainian border I have meet many of such comments/mistakes in my life.
At least he didn't say Czeckoslovakia 😄
No need for secure transmissions with such a journalist....he is already self encrypted
As a locksmith I was taught that locks don't keep people out, they only slow them down. As security advances so does antisecurity.
so why are you still in business?
@@gabrielecarbone8235 I don't think you fully understand the analogy 😉
@@gabrielecarbone8235 Because the odds still work, that's why.
@@TalkingToLeedskalnin that's why you don't get peace by disarming, but by defending yourself with better weapons. And in Ukraine situation doesn't seem to be working that bad against the supposed second best army in the world
True. Every time I locked myself out at home I got there eventually
refreshing to hear intelligent, open ended questions, clearly articulated explanations, polite discourse.
here here!
I hear intelligent, open ended questions, clearly articulated explanations, and polite discourse all the time.
"Now that there is a terrible war going on in Yugoslavia:" (at 5:15). Gosh, here I thought it was in Ukraine!
His brain briefly went back to 1991.
I thought I misheard because no one commented! Proves I can hear thankfully.
He has been hanging out with Biden and Fetterman.😂🤣
Thank you! I caught that as well and thought I must've missed some BIG news.
@@geoffreycodnett6570 My exact reaction as well lol
We need more interviews like this, from people that are measured, articulate and knowledgeable. Thanks TR and Mr Younger
Measured . 😂
Too right, John Sawyer and Alex Younger were ignored in favour of daft Fiona Hill. Who was so arrogant she said as a Russian expert she knew how Putin would think and cat totally 💯. If the BBC had asked these intelligent people prior and Professor John Mearschiemer, it wouldn’t have degenerated to this level.
This man is a master of extending sentences into a fine word salad. He could have reduced everything unique he said into two minutes.
@@algomaone121 Clearly he was unable to dumb it down to the point where you could understand both the underlying and nuanced content of his replies.
The rest of us were fine.
I LOVE YOU. It must be wonderful being you. Mwah!
“This is an opportunity for the West to remember what it’s for…” words to remember. Again, thank you Sir Alex Younger and Times Radio.
Putin will never lose the land he took. Mark these words.
FULLY AGREED 👍 👍 👍
Like colonization and genocides🥳
The sooner you realise that the West has been and still continues to be a greater plague on the rest of the world than Russia or China has EVER been, the sooner you can reinvent yourself.
The geopolitics are shifting and the West is losing EVERYWHERE.
Asia, Africa and Latin America.
Soon the penguins and polar bears will begin throwing you guys out.
@@valuggel8972
Thanks for reminding us what Pootin is doing in Ukraine👍
Playing Little Stalin in 2023💀
"We don't do propaganda." That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while.
He was talking about UK Gov not silver foil pointy hat wearing Americans.
He said they don’t do ‘misinformation’. Propaganda doesn’t have to be a lie.
@@lunachu8691 In strict sense of a lie being misleading it is a lie, If you tell only one side which is itself true ,but it then becomes nuanced with the whole truth it is deception and that is a lie, Deliberate incomplete truth is a a lie,..
@@normanboyes4983 And he's full of BS. If you buy it, your skull is probably full of the same lol
@@no-xr8wv Thank you for your well considered and erudite opinion.
As a cyber security engineer it’s refreshing to hear actual cyber security terminology used in the right context as well!!
Everyone is being spy by Israel.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cyber security is fine untill it's turned off💥at the rate we are going George Bush,s statement in the Iraq war ( illegal invasion) was along the lines of " play ball or we will bomb you back to the stone age. Putin was provoked by the west slinging stones at him and I think if we don't compromise we will all be living in the stone age .
What.... Like when a former head of MI6 states they don't undertake misinformation as tool for themselves.... Now that's excellent comedy and total misinformation in itself....more MSM nonsense, facilitated by those complicit in perpetual war and conflict.... Pathetic analysis yet again...
I’m a computer scientist but not a security expert, but I completely agree. This was so much better than most discussions on the topic. Also, just in general this reminds me of the times I had long term work assignments in the UK (I’m from the US) and what a pleasure it was to watch the political discourse there, where people talked intelligently and journalists actually asked good follow up questions that were challenging yet respectful.
Man, I wish all interviews could be of this quality.
You mean this BS propaganda. 😀😀
the guys is clearly lying through his teeth.
@@vinniebarbarino-1 This is The purpose of MI6 Lying about everything. Remember the "" SADAM Weapons of Mass Destruction "" that SADAM actually Never had. So the US and Britain could start the War in Iraq and take Iraqi oil.
And don’t we wish all Senior level negotiations were of this calibre….
Of course we don't do mis-information🤣🤣🤣
He's litetally laughing whilst pouring it on🤣
We need more people like this in positions of high importance.....people on merit nothing less
Wow, Sir Alex Younger what a brain. He answers questions not by evading, deflecting and pivoting but by providing a broader perspective and context from which to contemplate the issues involved such as cellular and internet connectivity. I'm impressed with his economy of speech which retains that element of humanity we regard as the essence of our nature. No wonder he was the head of MI6.
He didn't become head of MI6 without knowing his business.
He is also spot on with is comments on IT security. Impressive guy.
@@johnwright9372 I'm not even British and had never heard of him.
Reminds me of what we used to say to email users for 20 years. If you don't know who an unsolicited email is from, just delete it.
I think he is exceedingly focused, articulate and spot on rather than or not only as a result of giving some broad context. A man whose analysis has been part of an operation based, not only on speed and accuracy, but honesty. I hope. Very good to listen to this man.
This guy gives me hope that there are people in positions of influence who are not idiots.
Hahaa! This guy basically stated that MI6 Good and doesn't Lie and Russia bad and it does Lie!
The guy is a political stooge!
He's retired
Yes, it's his job to be convincing, retired or not. He would have been part of the organisation that authored the dodgy dossier 🤥. That should hold some weight in your mind as to the veracity of any statement he might make. 😉👍
@@gen21617 What are you on about?
they are super idiots and cowards the mi6
I love how civilized the English are. When the interviewer made the Yugoslavia mistake, chief knew what he actually meant, didn't fret about it, kept a straight face and explains along like nothing happened @5:10
SO SO TRUE. Like I said the 2 most corrupt governments. Day after day yby we are around the world starting our proxy wars putting the people that we want in office in other countries. We deserve all that comes our way.
Keep calm carry on
No mistake : Ethnic cleansing by Serbia , alias "Little Russia" !! ☠
They're literally staring down at a script
He said we operationalize the truth. Now that’s a whopper if I ever heard one!
You’ve clearly been wearing a bucket for the last 8 months if you’ve not seen that happening. It is clearly a contributing factor in Russia’s humiliation in Ukraine.
@@stephennewton2777 how does that boot taste?
The UK is lucky to have people of this man’s caliber.
@@mariogmajner6549 possibly because they didn't blow up the pipeline.
@@mariogmajner6549 👈🤡 Because Russia did it you 🤡
Fool
@@classifiedtopsecret4664 most likely.
@@mariogmajner6549 the more interesting question is why is Putins Regime unequivocally accusing the Uk of all countries ? And without presenting any credible evidence to back it up ? The second question is easier.
Blimey, this was one of the most intelligent interviews I've ever heard - well done to all three of you and your support. The world has got to be a better place with people of this calibre.
I see you loved the way he lied and propagandized. Must be that affected posh US lackey accent.
It appears America is dumbing down its agencies - our quality need to be uncompromising at the top and the principles need to be focused on the "win"; not on politics. America isn't achieving anymore - time to return to excellence!
er okay
What a sharp and clear mind.
This guy makes me more confident about top level attitudes to device security. Nothing is secure!
If he speak freely.. then it's propaganda.
Don’t get ahead of yourself, it only counts if people listen and follow through with his advice.
@@stinkymccheese8010 He denied Britain blew up the pipeline lol
@@mariogmajner6549 where’s the proof they had anything to do with it
@@mariogmajner6549 Ok Russian bot go spread your bs elsewhere.
This was a superior educative moment by someone who actually knows what he's talking about. I really like how he cogently corrected false assumptions. Very well done.
Lol
Propaganda but in the opposite way
Well we are listening to our Special Intelligence of the MI-6 nothing more to add, end ov.
I concur, as a fellow erudite individual, I simultaneously reveled in the elevated pedagogical nature of this discursive vocalisation, and admired how he coherently amended erroneous preconceptions in a manner most elucidating. Tremendously aptly performed.
T. society of very clever people
@@jordane5150 🤣...👍 thank you for OPERATIONALIZING the TRUTH 🙃 When ideas fail and words flail, MI6 can fix.
I have met Alex Younger, really nice and highly intelligent guy.
It’s very reassuring when you meet/listen to these people who have such a huge amount of responsibility attached to their roles. Few know what they do, but it has a massive impact on ensuring the security of our nation.
he’s wrong about secure phones though.
@@PathosConsultingGroup What part?
@@xtcalexxtc The idea that there’s no such thing as a secure cell phone. US govt has them, they run on private networks
@@PathosConsultingGroup Yep, as do British Gov. Those pieces of kit are very specialised and not officially available to the general public though. Also, if the technology was to fall into the wrong hands, then the whole system could be compromised pretty easily
@@PathosConsultingGroup
He is correct in principle though. Any network, even a non-computerized network, is only as secure as its weakest link. It'd be foolhardy to think that any network is 100% secure. Once a hacker gets his/her hand on one of those phones, it can be used as a node from which to attack the whole system as @DervelCadarn 1 pointed out.
Did Adam Boulton just say "the war in Yugoslavia"? Not only the wrong war, in the wrong decade, but a country that no longer exists. Nice to see he's on top of his game and really knows what's going on in the world.
Thank you for this comment ! Upon listening I was thinking , what??? War where??? Geezz how did the journalist made this mistake! Thank you again!!!
I just wrote this:
“*5:13* I hope this was mistake by the host: *Now when there’s a terrible war going on in Yugoslavia…* It have to have been. Because Yugoslavia is not in existence today. History in school, and in books are the few contexts I can come up with who’d partially use it, I write partially, because they’d write *former Yugoslavia* as far as I’m concerned, but I can b wrong.
With kindness and respect, Grace “
“We don’t do disinformation, we operationalize the truth.”
Priceless.
Iraq War WMD, eh?
That was the US and CIA to be fair.
The UK was fooled into that war.
Ah, so it was YOU that actually knew that Saddam’s misinformation was indeed misinformation. Clearly their error not to consult you and your superior knowledge
@@iainhunneybell And you just can't admit that MI6 and the CIA fabricated the evidence for WMD's in Iraq and lied sbout it causing a war resulting in a million deaths
Where/how did the UK gorvernment used propaganda during the war in Ukraine? Like actual propaganda?
Genuinely curious :)
@@reyd1647 whenever they talk about it... :(
Good perspectives. Thanks for having him on.
"We're operationalizing the truth: We're not doing all the baddy things, we're honest men" 😂😂😂😂 Yeah....of course
Operationalizing the truth ! Brilliant 🤣🤣🤣
Terrific, informative, high-caliber interview ! Loved the interviewee's measured, thoughtful, in depth responses !
He failed to explain each terrorist attack Anglish planed and executed against Russia, through vile UkroNazia.
Can't say the same about the interviewer who can't distinguish between Ukraine where there is a war and Yugoslavia which doesn't even exist as a country anymore!
God, Supermarket tabloids are more believable and far more entertaining.
Isn’t it so good to hear intelligent people talk about such important issues it’s a shame our MP’s in office are not that knowledgable… thank you great interview
Because government work for W. E. F..
Unfortunately , I did not hear one. What I heard was a charlatan attempting to sound objective with analysis but in the end was propagating propaganda for the naive
Government works for the elite plain and simple us ants 🐜 are just porns I’m sick of it !
@@hayleydryden8358 Citation needed
@@hayleydryden8358 Get a brain please.
Alex Younger, a really excellent guest with a lot of information that he presented concisely ! An excellent choice of guests.
listen carefully 7:00 he is ignorance to mention we uk dont do disinformation, we the UK are the pioneer in disinformation since ww2: srch OPERATION MINCEMEAT
A lot of complexity false information. MWD’s in Iraq turned up yet, 1 million dead Iraqis later?
Superb interview, this is both reassuring and interesting.
And completely dishonest 👍
Very solid, balanced perspective and insights from someone who knows what he's talking about. Thank you.
Well yes. Mi6 guy is very intelligent & trained politically what to say or not.
The truths are btw the lines? 😎🙃🙂😂🤔😏
@@8_x_9. Agree. He was very good at walking the tightrope of what to say with confidence, emphasizing the key points of a reasoned perspective, and not speculating about what can't be known or predicted right now.
Yes one has to really understand the kind of lies one is spreading to be this articulate 👍
thanks for this excellent interview
"There is no such thing as a fully secure device that is connected to the internet"
This man knows what he is talking about.
Even it's not connected, you can still gain info from it.
@@geetee2694 Exactly. This is why the Dutch elections went from all-electronic to all-paper. It was discovered that while the voting devices were air-gapped, you could still infer a person's choice from the electro-magnetic radiation it emitted.
So now, instead of having the result within an hour of the closing of the voting stations, we know the outcome the next morning. But the confidentiality of the vote is guaranteed.
Turned it off when he said the UK doesn't do disinformation.
The most interesting interview I have seen here on Times Radio this far. Thanks! This MI6 guy was very interesting listening to.
The sap waiting for UK to get nuke?.
Because they arent just politicians or civil servants, they are some of the most mentally agile people in our society !
Thought it was my five not six but by the way not that my six it's not good it is and it's not the only one
so you like to listen to lie?
7:00 we dont do disinformation but you dont know Uk is the pioneer in disinformation since ww2 srch OPERATION MINCEMEAT
@@jetli740 Operation mincemeat was part of a piece of military strategy in a war where surprise surprise we were allies with Russia. I hope you are not comparing this mis information with 20 years of state sponsored brainwashing by Russian STATE CONTROLLED media !
There is no way anyone can predict how this war will end the gravity of the situation is tremendous
Actually, anyone can indeed predict how this war will end . . . but only some of those predictions may come true. ;-)
I agree
@@RoswellJazzFestival very easy to predict outcome Russia is & well absolutely crush Ukraine, If people would study history they would realize this was always going to be the outcome but people are too thick to do this
@@scottsammons737 Which part of history "predicts" such outcome? :D
@@scottsammons737 I cannot see how that happens.
Yes, Russia may eventually win this (doubtful), but the costs of this conflict have made Russia far weaker overall.
The lasting costs will also prevent Russia from ever recovering.
I am impressed. An articulate, thoughtful analysis. No fluff. No thrice repeated talking points and circular thinking. The American news channels should take note.
What does "operationalising the truth" mean?
Wow.Not a word wasted.Super intelligent and eloquent.
Great video, keep it up 🕊️🇬🇧🕊️.
In the welter of talking heads opining about the war, you occassionally find a commentator who clearly stands head and shoulders above the others in wisdom and insight. Younger is one such authority. Immense knowledge and experience combined with balance, and just the right degree of caution/realpolitik in his assessments.
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Thank you MI6, certain to get the truth from MI6. They have never lied before. Sending love. Go truckers and railway workers. Cleveland
Threat, vulnerability, risk are all different but related concepts, often used interchangeably in normal life but with distinct meanings in cyber security.
This was an excellent piece of journalism, good questions to a person who really knows what he’s talking about. I don’t know why we can’t see this kind of content on mainstream TV.
Because the viewers would hate it. Their attention span is around 140 characters.
Because mainstream TV medias are totally controled by the corrupt elites themselves..They lie to you and It's only pure propaganda..
The facts from USA Corporate News; ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
@@endintiers Exactly
@@danielbell8679 as opposed to the truth according to Putin?
Weapons of Mass Destruction, I remember that one
More discussions like this should be shared.
I have to say I really like this times stuff just wish you had a recorded stream with chapters as I like listening when I'm at work
What disturbs me most, is why the US Corporate Media always dresses their female news announcers as big, grown up DOLLS. This is how they prefer Women to be seen. ROFL
Respect for Sir Alex Younger! I appreciate his broad perspective. We need to hear more from him. Thanks for the interview.
2:44 HOLY CRUD! AN HONEST ANSWER?!
I did not expect such an honest and integral answer as a person who has hacked every device they can get their hands on for many years I cant help but appreciate this mans integrity.
Wonderful interview thank you.
"we dont do disinformation....we only tell the truth"....ha ha ha
"We don't do disinformation what we do is operationalizing the truth" Lol!
1) Weapons of mass destruction
2) chemical weapons
3) human shields
"We don't do disinformation"
And I'm a pink unicorn
Intelligence services are basically professional liars, just like politicians.
I'd love to have a conversation with everyday people who believe that
Yiddery
Funny to hear him say 'we don't do disinformation'. What else could he say?
He certainly looks like an honest guy - the most dangerous kind, but good for Britain for sure ;)
The guiltily never admit they have committed the crime of blowing up the pipe line,
Thank you so very much Sir for your excellent knowledge. Very much appreciated 🙏
Another sadly twisted one way expressed by a person who is just as brainwashed, as the people who regard him as an expert on this complex subject. I would like to know where his idea that the Russians want all of Ukraine. This conflict arose to prevent NATO, ergo the USA, putting missiles along their border. Nothing else. Would the USA allow China to operate within Mexico? Missiles on the Mexican border with America. I don't think so.
Superbly done. Thank you.
So insightful a discussion-thank you!!
An enlightening moment: "We dont do misinformation, they do"
That was a fascinating interview, thank you. I can't tell you how much I am enjoying these different points of view. Just excellent.
This was a lucid and informative interview. The woman asked insightful questions and demonstrated a presence that was very impressive. She hit the mark each time with a response that furthered the guest's reasoning and allowed him to expand his remarks. The MI-6 head was nuanced and made a great point about the purpose of intelligence.
Is it my imagination or did this guy seriously say that they do not do misinformation. That in itself is misinformation. Does he really think that we are all like you?
Absolutely 😍"We don't do misinformation,what we do is OPERATIONALIZING the TRUTH"...when too much nuance is never enough. 🤧
They're just "staging the Tel Aviv narrative" for DIPSHITS to "take as their miserable misinformed gospel"
😂😂😂
It's a propaganda piece.
@@PB111627 "Operation Mincemeat", anyone?
Thank you to the random Times Radio techie for fixing the audio issues which plagued earlier videos.
It’s a pity we don’t have people of the calibre of Sir Alex Younger running this world.
This was a very interesting interview. Thank you.
A Clear and concise overview, i thank you.
Always very informative listening to him.
Really I find him completely idiotic
Yep, thanks to the MI6, I know for certain that Russia ran out of missiles in February, been running out of them every other day, and that USUK's pet Junta in Kiev is at the gates of Moscow.
@@julianpetkov8320 Du langweiler. copy paste comment.
@@Maggie.s.p.242 It is called - a reply, and when the comments get repetitively disingenuous, a repetitive reply is in order.
Argue the substance not the delivery style.
The BBC reported in 2003 that in retirement, Hewitt was granted the rank of major which was "in line with common army practice
Thank you for the excellent informative interview.
A very genuine, reassuring and likeable guy imo.
yeah just the guy you need if there is a bridge used by civilians you want bombed
"We -MI6- don't do disinformation, we operationalise the truth" .. .. 😅😂🤣🤣🤣
So does the CIA 😂😂😂
also picked up on that. Sure, pure clean truth
Well yes but for even more laugh read the comments 🤯
Noticed this one as well. Very good one.
"Believe me I'm from the Intelligence"
"Believe me I'm a journalist"
Spooks are professional lairs that's what they do.😎🤓
Thank goodness for those that have the wits about them to care and keep everybody safe.
Thank you sir
Fighting Putin is less expensive than not fighting Putin 👌
Thank you so much for this incredibly insightful interview!!!!!!!!!
The hosts asked him the same question repeatedly. His answer was the same each time. Were they not listening or did they want a different answer?
The questions are all written before the interview starts. The 'hosts' don't need to listen to the answers, they only need to be able to read an autocue.
@el diamante Who are you? More like some some q-anon conspiracy apologists looking for his shadow and scared to find it.
I don't think you were watching the same video as the rest of us.
@@crinolynneendymion8755 You're not kidding. It often amazes me how people want to comment on content that they clearly have been paying very little attention to. (Or perhaps don't have the intelligence to understand?)
An MI 6 can hold a line of thought no matter how many questions are there.
Always give the right answeres. 🤔😏😂
Way impressed with Alex Younger! The UK is in good hands with people of his competence and integrity.
It would be very interesting to hear if this group could have the same discussion in another few months.
Why can't we have someone like this as pm?
Management of risk. This guy knows what he is talking about and is quite correct.
This guy is waiting to get nuke?. The British are doing great destroying themselves and EU.
thats what angela Merkel said when the US hacked her phone
Why couldn't the West agree to Ukraine being neutral? This one issue would have made a big difference!
Pray for Yugoslavia 🙏
5:14 "A terrible war going on in Yugoslavia" ?! What?
Get a grip
@@benarcher7411 ikr?
@@benarcher7411 you tell him Ben!
Scot riter speaks the real truth .
TY
0:30 those are the biggest headphones i have ever seen.
🇺🇸,hello from orlando florida, nice segment very informative!
What a fantastically refreshing interview!, unsullied by any media sensationalism or emotively driven fact twisting, which always seems to be the norm for what they feed us these days. Everything made sense, the seemingly alarming (now perfectly explained) disclosure of much that is known about the Russian forces and their dodgy outdated and malfunctioning equipment. The reality of, previously assumed, impregnable cyber security based on sheer ignorance of such matters and the desperate need for eyes to be opened and caution to be instilled on all who deal in sensitive information and/or attend high level meetings where tech, including personal items, should never be trusted. There is so much reassurance in this for me, thank you, thank you!
You must be a fool. Check what Douglas Macgregor say about Ukraine and Russia.
Incredible guest you managed to get on
And that's from the horses mouth, no bluff no bluster just honest straight forward answers. Our mp's should learn from him.
Glad to hear someone finally mention the concept of attack surface, the easiest way to track the magnitude of cyber attacks against any target.
This is an excellent interview. With many thanks for a mature discussion. …
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"Downside surprise..." Using that one.🤣
Alex Younger gave a really great interview and the interview was well conducted. Thank you for promoting this, it's a breath of fresh air in a very stuffy environment.
Stumbled across the interview/vid and found it extremely informative.
Very good interviewers and a open and honest guest.
Was it the guest the interviewers or the questions that impressed.?
Answer all of the above
Thank you
Can someone please tell me what document or intelligence collection he is talking about? I would love to read it up. It's around 5:00 minutes
I spent 11years writing secure code for IBM mainframes. Except, no code is secure.
Excellent interview by Times Radio. Clear and complete answers, without the badgering and insinuation endemic to media in the United States. Good work!
One of the best interviews on the subject. I very much agree with your statement.👍
Astro.
This sap wants to pummel EU.
Oh please europe invented it
Yes clear and complete nonsense 👍👏👏👏
13:06
What a beautiful quote
Quality guest. Quality interview.
"We don't do disinformation, what we do is operationalizing rhe truth"....VERY clever piece of wordsmithing there!
Excellent questions, and great great answers Sir Alex Younger
I agree especially from female interviewer whose name I know not
He avoided answering whether Ukraine will have to give up territory because the obvious and honest answer is they will and it goes against the narrative that they are winning