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  • @justmike1753
    @justmike1753 2 роки тому +1203

    It must be tough for Hong Seok Cheon as the only openly LGBTQ person who is a famous household name. He has the pressure of being treated as the representative of all LGBTQ Koreans

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому +1

      Not all factions support the various alphabets.

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому +74

      @@bngr_bngr 🤡🤡🤡

    • @beelzemobabbity
      @beelzemobabbity 2 роки тому +8

      @@bngr_bngr ?

    • @jenicdarling9425
      @jenicdarling9425 2 роки тому +39

      Sadly I think that while he’s now very successful again that the backlash & all the hate he got when he first came out and how it effected his career it may be why many are scared of coming out. He had people demanding he be fired and stuff, loss job opportunities and he struggled and had to be strong to fight back and work hard to get back his career and be where he is today. If more celebs, public figures or etc do it and they don’t get huge backlash or suffer career wise and have their family’s support then it could help change the public’s perception so others won’t be as scared and come out too, then it can turn into a more accepted & normal thing which is kinda what happened in the west. Idk just my opinion and maybe I’m getting things wrong

    • @BornApril
      @BornApril 2 роки тому +23

      But he is also an inspiration for a lot of closeted gays

  • @johnmassey55
    @johnmassey55 2 роки тому +1877

    It is sad to think that in America , "coming out" COULD have some negative consequence with family and friends , while , from what I am understanding , "coming out" in Korea WILL have a very severe consequence with family and friends . I feel so sorry for all the people that must remain "in the closet" because of this . Thank you for a very timely video here during Pride month .

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому +55

      In America coming out can have severe consequences. It’s not generally excepted.

    • @kurtkatzemcqueennovaaetate6873
      @kurtkatzemcqueennovaaetate6873 2 роки тому +16

      @@bngr_bngr That's right. In fact, they are so 'unaccepted' that they have an entire month dedicated to them, a series of flags dedicated to them, teaching taught in schools dedicated to them, commercials dedicated to them, and government officials practically bowing down to them. They are sooooo mistreated *sarcasm* 🖕

    • @kyulkyung4059
      @kyulkyung4059 2 роки тому +112

      @@kurtkatzemcqueennovaaetate6873 While I agree that in the U.S people are more open minded that doesn’t mean there’s no homophobes or mistreatment going on. Actually since hating on someone else for their sexuality is clearly wrong this has caused homophobes to hide which means a lot of the harm happens behind the scenes, especially in the entertainment industry. *caugh* Disney caugh*

    • @kurtkatzemcqueennovaaetate6873
      @kurtkatzemcqueennovaaetate6873 2 роки тому +5

      @@kyulkyung4059 Homophobia implies that someone has an irrational fear of homosexuals. That is a term that is used to attack people. It's not a matter of open mindedness, it's a matter of morality. The Bible says in the first verse and in the first chapter, "He created them, Male and Female". It also says that, "A man should stick to his wife". Homosexuality is morally wrong. That doesn't mean that I hate homosexuals though. This is something that nobody teaches or says. We can agree to disagree on homosexuality and accept each other as humans. But no, the LGBTQ+ community forces its beliefs on everyone, if you step out of line and say that you don't agree with it, you could lose your job or get labeled as a 'homophobe'. THAT is one reason as to why homosexuals or other members of the LGBTQ+ community get attacked.

    • @samgar4216
      @samgar4216 2 роки тому +69

      @@kurtkatzemcqueennovaaetate6873
      Homophobia is not only fear of homosexuala, is much more than that, even saying things like "I mean I respect them but stay away from me" are homophobia
      Your beliefs are not my beliefs, no one has the right to say "they can't do this or that" cause that's your religion, your religion prevents YOU from doing things, not me, with this said, how exactly are we pushing our beliefs? We are just not tolerating people denying things based on their own beliefs, we can't marry, we can't adopt, we can't be safe in so many places and even stupid things like abortion are denied because of religion, if you don't want to do it cause your religions says no then don't but that doesn't mean you have the right to deny it to me, we just ask for respect and rights, that's all
      Also, the whole pride month has a really deep and sad story, sadly companies have used this month as a strategy to sell... the only reason price month exist is because we have been oppressed since forever, having shows about LGBT+ is literally the bare minimu as if all media was about straights
      Sorry if my English is bad, this is my second language

  • @hr981
    @hr981 2 роки тому +845

    There are a lot of Korean LGBTQ you tubers you can introduce, also there is a channel called Dotface which shows Korean pride, Korean LGBTQ weddings. I think Korea is slowly opening up in terms of lgbtq, with trans icons like Harisu, and there's Korean movies that are lgbtq. I hope you can make a video like that

    • @hr981
      @hr981 2 роки тому +53

      Also you forgot HOLLAND!!!

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому +1

      @@hr981 so true👍

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому +12

      This was about celebrities not influencers.

    • @dAPERize
      @dAPERize 2 роки тому +20

      @@bngr_bngr Holland and Jo Kwon are celebs

    • @phuyu5624
      @phuyu5624 2 роки тому +11

      @@dAPERize they are sadly not known by the general public so more like internet celebs, jo kwon more though (but he hasn't come out and probably never will unless he steps out of the public eye

  • @bUtLUtu
    @bUtLUtu 2 роки тому +891

    As a Dutch person who’s grown up with the idea of the lgbtq+ community being the most normal thing ever, I still struggle to understand why this is such an issue. Even in the U.S.

    • @spideylexi
      @spideylexi 2 роки тому +111

      if only everyone thought like you

    • @lisaj5786
      @lisaj5786 2 роки тому +26

      Ik ben daarom blij dat ik Nederlands ben en dat ik de kans heb om überhaupt vrij te denken in korea zijn er veel mensen die er niet eens achter komen of ze lgbtq zijn, omdat het nooit als een optie werd gezien.

    • @elemeno82002
      @elemeno82002 2 роки тому +68

      Blame the religious right

    • @Alan_Mac
      @Alan_Mac 2 роки тому +16

      I just posted something similar about where I am in London. It's a non-issue.

    • @Green-ader
      @Green-ader 2 роки тому

      Because it’s not normal it’s improper you guys are annoying you always talk about how you feel oppressed you always push your sexual beliefs on the others and it’s annoying and you are all very hypocritical

  • @jasmyngonzalez3093
    @jasmyngonzalez3093 2 роки тому +2234

    Why not show holland? He's an openly gay korean singer

    • @1to1official
      @1to1official 2 роки тому

      Hexwas harrassed at the street a few days ago. So sad

    • @rennijo
      @rennijo 2 роки тому +443

      I don't think he's invited on a lot of big name shows, though. He has a drama and I think he's done a few youtube videos, but aside from being known as an openly gay singer, he isn't really that famous. Hong Seok Cheon is the only out celebrity that I can think of that's actually on SBS/KBS/etc. variety shows. Holland, Somhein, MRSHLL-- They're all out, but they're not well known.

    • @spideylexi
      @spideylexi 2 роки тому +224

      he’s not famous at all in korea

    • @user-fc8mf2is4b
      @user-fc8mf2is4b 2 роки тому +91

      he's not really famous in korea

    • @kimsaeron9498
      @kimsaeron9498 2 роки тому +48

      @@user-fc8mf2is4b he is pretty famous and has many popular friends celebrities like Yeri from Red Velvet, Wonho etc

  • @bluewilliams4911
    @bluewilliams4911 2 роки тому +386

    To everyone asking ‘Why didn’t they show Holland!’ They didn’t show him because he’s not that famous. There’s a reason they didn’t name when talking about openly out Koreans, and it’s because he’s not as popular in Korea. They’re trying to bring up people in Korea who the girls may know, Holland is not one of them.

    • @Lemoon27
      @Lemoon27 2 роки тому +6

      Isn’t the point of this show to teach them and discuss about things they don’t know though? I would like to know about the minor lgbtq+ personalities we don’t see /hear much of, they could have just mentioned them, how else are they supposed to ever be acknowledged?
      I would guess it is more about what they want to tell in a short video format, perhaps? That they can’t cover everything, or wish to keep the videos short.

    • @axxwqw3117
      @axxwqw3117 2 роки тому +3

      Nah that's a lame excuse. Why wasn't Yoojung from Weki Meki shown? IOI was one of the biggest kpop girl groups of all time LOL. Fact is they didn't bother doing their research.

    • @bluewilliams4911
      @bluewilliams4911 2 роки тому +5

      @@Lemoon27 True, but the idea was celebrities, which implies a concept of ‘you know this person’ not a ‘who is this again?’

    • @bluewilliams4911
      @bluewilliams4911 2 роки тому +12

      @@axxwqw3117 No one from either of those groups are confirmed queer people. Also no one from either of those groups is in the top 50 of the 2021 or 2022 most popular idols by queer Korean women. Also not all Koreans listen to kpop that closely, we’re not a monolith, why would we keep track of who’s who?

    • @Random-rv3us
      @Random-rv3us 2 роки тому +9

      @@axxwqw3117 yoojung never openly came out

  • @taesunnyw
    @taesunnyw 2 роки тому +728

    HOW did they not know Troy was gay? that's insane to me, he's been open for so long.
    And disappointing they didn't show more celebs being open, there's a LOT.

    • @makcouthill
      @makcouthill 2 роки тому +138

      They've most likely not watched his music videos and only know him from the radio/charts. Most koreans don't know about foreign celebs’ private lives or drama and only recognize songs and not the singer. Also the language barrier makes it harder to pick up on lyrics that "hint" his sexuality, especially when you're only casually listening to it and not analyzing or looking up the lyrics

    • @andrepires7687
      @andrepires7687 2 роки тому +24

      Koreans are very conservatives and don't care about those topics.

    • @Niki91-HR
      @Niki91-HR 2 роки тому +33

      I dont even know who Troy is and I am from the West, well more specific Europe.... maybe I heard his songs on the radio. But some people just dont care about someones private life though...especially when it comes to celebs.

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому +18

      @@andrepires7687 not all koreans are conservative, a lot of them are very open minded especially the younger generations. There's no need to generalize koreans like this.

    • @prettyinpinkgirlsboys1648
      @prettyinpinkgirlsboys1648 2 роки тому

      @@makcouthill not true Koreans love him and his songs and even have a bunch of lyric videos translations to his songs so idts

  • @darlingash
    @darlingash 2 роки тому +624

    If you guys wanted more Out Korean Celebrities, there's Holland- who's gay, MRSHLL- who's gay, Aquinas- who's bisexual, and a few others. There's one that is asexual, I can't remember his name, though.
    Edit: there is also some girls that came out as bisexual, but one is problematic and was a bully, so I didn't put her there- another girl is Jiae, who is bisexual, and a rapper named SLEEQ

    • @rinpark4658
      @rinpark4658 2 роки тому +39

      I think you mean Min Sung, he´s an ex-member of a kpop group called Topp Dogg. If I wrong, I´m sorry.

    • @darlingash
      @darlingash 2 роки тому +27

      @@rinpark4658 yeah I think you're right ! I think I remember one of the members of Topp Dogg coming out as asexual ! :) Thank you :)

    • @fozzycraiglai9344
      @fozzycraiglai9344 2 роки тому +36

      Holland has done interviews with Jaykeeout (youtube), Sam Hammington, and Andy Trieu. He also went public about being assaulted for being gay. It was written about on the Billboard website. His music videos are beautiful and very openly gay.

    • @idkanam3495
      @idkanam3495 2 роки тому +14

      the asexual one is min minsung aka navinci

    • @darlingash
      @darlingash 2 роки тому

      @@fozzycraiglai9344 eh? Yeah I know, I've been his fan since he debuted lmao

  • @florvillarreal9136
    @florvillarreal9136 2 роки тому +177

    What about Holland, MRSHLL, Navinci (who is asexual), Harisu (trans), Maman (lesbian), Hanbit (trans), D.IP's Seungho, B.Nish and Hyeongseong, they're all part of the LGBTQ+ community.

    • @ellem8990
      @ellem8990 2 роки тому +8

      I'm pretty sure that Navinci is also aromantic.

    • @florvillarreal9136
      @florvillarreal9136 2 роки тому

      @@ellem8990 yes!!

    • @ellem8990
      @ellem8990 2 роки тому +1

      @@florvillarreal9136 I just added that since you only wrote asexual :)

    • @florvillarreal9136
      @florvillarreal9136 2 роки тому

      @@ellem8990 no problem, and thank u! ^^

    • @momaroria15
      @momaroria15 2 роки тому +29

      Bcs they aren't famous... simple as that. openly gay people exist in Korea, including ones who aspire to be famous or are artists.
      But they aren't openly gay celebrities, purely bcs they aren't famous

  • @lili-yz1wb
    @lili-yz1wb 2 роки тому +62

    this makes me grateful to be from an open-minded part of the world

  • @misterprickly
    @misterprickly 2 роки тому +99

    I thought they were going to show people like Elton John, Jim Parsons, George Takei, Jane Lynch, Scott Thompson and Wanda Sykes.
    I still remember how badly the industry treated Max Wright (Willie from ALF) after he was outed.
    It was pretty much the end for him, until the ALF box sets got released. Next thing you know, he's smoking a fatty on his yacht with his boyfriend!

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому

      The marijuana made him an addict.

    • @biazacha
      @biazacha 2 роки тому +2

      Probably focusing on celebs they do know, at least the face, so their choices make total sense.

    • @misterprickly
      @misterprickly 2 роки тому

      @@biazacha I guess.

  • @reielric6246
    @reielric6246 2 роки тому +85

    I was gonna say the same, Holland is openly gay, and has done many music videos. You should react yo them, he was also in a BL drama Ocean Likes Me.

  • @idkanam3495
    @idkanam3495 2 роки тому +195

    I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't put holland in this video. he's the first korean idol that has been open about being gay since pre-debut. even his debut song was about loving another man
    It would've been a good chance to talk about the dangers of being openly gay in korea (+ the importance of an anti-discrimination law) since he was hate crimed (verbally and physically assulted) in itaewon just last month

    • @JjjG66
      @JjjG66 2 роки тому +36

      it’s cus he’s not famous in korea. So they were probably going by famous or well known celebrities

    • @ajahneely3876
      @ajahneely3876 2 роки тому +26

      @@JjjG66 i mean it's kinda of not an excuse because i didnt know half of the celebrities from the western countries, and the point of the video was to open them up to openly gay idols from both sides, not just because they could only think of one out korean celebrity, I still think it was good video but they could've expanded it little bit for the sake of representation.

    • @JjjG66
      @JjjG66 2 роки тому +15

      @@ajahneely3876 yeah i’m not saying it’s an excuse, but a lot of the celebrities on the western side have been a part of big projects, whereas holland is not even thought of as a celebrity in sk….that’s why the girls in the video didn’t name him. Unfortunately they went off popularity

    • @bluchismoon
      @bluchismoon 2 роки тому +21

      @@ajahneely3876 if you don't know Jodie Foster it's not because shes not known, it's because you're probably either young or don't even watch American movies. Holland is not well known among the average Korean, but he probably should have been included because of his recent struggles and to show how there are younger Koreans working to help normalize being gay.

    • @ajahneely3876
      @ajahneely3876 2 роки тому

      @@bluchismoon I mean I’m not saying that just bc I don’t know her means everyone else doesn’t I’m saying doesn’t matter if he was well known or not it’s just about representation

  • @mccorama
    @mccorama 2 роки тому +59

    You should react to Eugene Lee Yang's coming out video.

  • @lillycamp8892
    @lillycamp8892 2 роки тому +35

    For the person who writes the subtitles, Elliot page (previously ellen Paige) is obviously a trans Man, and you should refer to them with the masculine pronouns he and him, not she and her

  • @kerrichristian7991
    @kerrichristian7991 Рік тому +6

    I live in the middle of the US. It’s very conservative but my husband and I are more open. Our son came out to us almost a year ago and I’m so proud of him. This was a sweet reaction! ❤️

  • @robertm1015
    @robertm1015 2 роки тому +12

    Holland, a singer from Korea is also openly gay. He displays this in his music videos. Sadly he was also recently attacked, a story which was mentioned even in a Billboard article.

  • @Alan_Mac
    @Alan_Mac 2 роки тому +35

    Really good video and nicely handled by the girls - who do big topics like this so well. It's also a massive cultural difference between Korea and where I am in the UK - just outside London - where literally no one gives a toss. The only person I know who struggled to come out to his parents was my friend James - from a Muslim background - who didn't open up to his parents until he went to University. Then when he did? His dad's reaction was, "Thanks for admitting it. We've known for years". They've now got a great relationship.

  • @luckyk7978
    @luckyk7978 2 роки тому +20

    How did they not show Holland? He's openly gay and was recently a victim of a hate crime because of it.

    • @theYammy
      @theYammy 2 роки тому +2

      Even though internationally people are more likely to know him, he’s not popular. They were trying to show Korean celebs they would know about.

  • @idkanam3495
    @idkanam3495 2 роки тому +39

    i just saw someone else saying this in the comments: you guys should react to eugine lee yang's coming out video! you can make a separate video on it, it's on the "the try guys" channel

    • @kirasaaan3648
      @kirasaaan3648 2 роки тому +5

      Ooh! They totally should!!

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому

      That’s not a celebrity

    • @idkanam3495
      @idkanam3495 2 роки тому +8

      @@bngr_bngr "you can make a separate video on it"

  • @jxy7096
    @jxy7096 2 роки тому +3

    "I couldn't tell" yeah there are some really gay idols that the korean public seems oblivious to

  • @mooomoo3925
    @mooomoo3925 2 роки тому +3

    at least in my life experience, the people i know and go to school with don’t come out. it’s just something that pops in conversation and is completely normal. although i did come out to my parents and friends when i was very young, it’s not something i seem necessary to do nowadays with new friends. like recently, in class i was with two classmates and we were talking about relationships and i mentioned that i’m not straight. they both were like “really? ok then”.

  • @megansstallion818
    @megansstallion818 2 роки тому +56

    Sad they didn't show Nas ☠️ he's fucking hilarious and amazing

    • @distinctfortune9724
      @distinctfortune9724 2 роки тому +15

      Lil Nas X right? Cause Nas is a whole different person lol

    • @louisejohnson6057
      @louisejohnson6057 2 роки тому +5

      Little Nas X was never in the closet as a famous person, was he? I didn't need any help knowing that he was a proud gay man. Nas wears his sexuality like a king wears his crown.

    • @valentinmoscatello3282
      @valentinmoscatello3282 2 роки тому +7

      @@louisejohnson6057 he wasn't out until a while after old town road blew up, a lot of people didn't know in the beginning

    • @megansstallion818
      @megansstallion818 2 роки тому +3

      @@distinctfortune9724 yes Lil Nas X ☠️

    • @megansstallion818
      @megansstallion818 2 роки тому +3

      @@louisejohnson6057 a little bit after old town road he came out

  • @k-dramaqueen9457
    @k-dramaqueen9457 2 роки тому +12

    Uhm Hong-Sik, more commonly known as Actor Yoo Ah-In, is another openly gay celebrity in Korea. After being rumored to be gay on multiple occasions, he came out with his boyfriend through an Instagram post.

  • @lonelybrooklyn1752
    @lonelybrooklyn1752 2 роки тому +3

    growing up, my parents took in my now brother who was a foster kid at that time....
    he was 7 years old and very feminine... so no one really cared about that, at that tme i was 9 and already knew he was going to be gay lol
    now were both 22 and 20... hes a makeup artist and very supported by family and friends

  • @Bangel911
    @Bangel911 2 роки тому +29

    I would've liked to ask them how they would react if their own kids came out to them. I'm most curious about that then their reaction to be honest. Currently, in Korea, lots of people would say that others should accept the bendings of some social norms such as sexual orientation but oftentimes they don't turn that scope unto themselves. Putting themselves in that situation and asking themselves if they could accept it. Only that others should accept it and omitting their own reaction or opinion. Like if it happens to someone else it's ok but if it happens to you, it's a problem now.

  • @BetterLifeAhead35
    @BetterLifeAhead35 2 роки тому +15

    Not knowing Troy is gay must reflect some differences in what masculinity or straightness look like from culture to culture, because in the West it's immediately apparent that he's not straight.

  • @FantasyFae
    @FantasyFae Рік тому +2

    wow though, like there are so many parents here that are accepting and not accepting but in korea their first thought is "I don't see how any parent wouldn't be upset". This shows such a cultural difference man.

  • @Cookie_moonlove
    @Cookie_moonlove 2 роки тому +14

    3:49???? what? Troye's music videos is him and guys even making out, his lyrics are about guys and some about being gay too, he had a long time public boyfriend. And since 2013 he have been very very open about it.
    How can people know about him and not that he is gay? It's like not knowing Taylor Swift like guys, she also sings about guys and have them in her music videos and her relationships have been known public.

    • @j_rm8883
      @j_rm8883 2 роки тому +4

      From what i’ve read he’s mostly popular among younger people (teens) in SK, and its likely that the girls in the vid may not be familiar with most of his work, or only know his songs (like Youth, or Fools, which a few idols have covered) which don’t use male pronouns or really explicitly state he’s gay? Not really sure but I can see how they wouldn’t know if they’ve only heard of him in passing.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому +1

      Taylor Swift liking guys is normal.

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому +5

      @@bngr_bngr and troye sivan liking guys is normal as well

  • @axxwqw3117
    @axxwqw3117 2 роки тому +4

    Jiae from Wassup is an out bisexual woman, Yoojung from IOI/Weki Meki also said "I don't care about the gender, I care about the feeling" when asked her ideal type. Do your research, channel!!

    • @axxwqw3117
      @axxwqw3117 2 роки тому +1

      And I don't give a fuck that Jiae's not famous, these girls didn't know who Jodie Foster was either so it's irrelevant

  • @ratfey
    @ratfey 2 роки тому +31

    more lgbtq+ contents because it's pride monthhh

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому +1

      One video is enough.

    • @asxtro7145
      @asxtro7145 2 роки тому +6

      @@bngr_bngrFor you. Let them post what they want. 😐

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому

      @@bngr_bngr no

    • @carenna1220
      @carenna1220 2 роки тому

      @@bngr_bngr no it's really not

    • @barbara_018
      @barbara_018 2 роки тому

      🌈Everyone!! Wavve a Korean streaming platform is going to air 2 LGBT couple/dating shows in July!! "Merry Queer"(1st ep aired 8/7 ) has more of a reality show feel to it with 3 lgbt couples and their daily lives and struggles!! The couples/cast is well picked, and the MC is also top-notch (Hani, Hong Seokcheon and Shin Dong Yup)!! I personally enjoyed the first ep!!
      "Man's Romance" (airs 15/7)on the other hand is like love catcher, heart signal, transit love etc. like any other Korean dating show BUT this time with ONLY Bi/Gay men participating!!
      You can find the trailers on Wavve's YT channel or their Twitter account!! ❤️Merry Queer (the other queer dating/couple show Wavve aired on July 8th) will premiere on Gagaoolala with English subs on July 15th!! So I am pretty sure something similar will happen with this one "Man's Romance" after it airs raw on Wavve on July 15th!! Though we will have to probably wait a week or two for it to appear on Gagaoolala! ❤️

  • @liliosman6037
    @liliosman6037 2 роки тому +10

    I actually came out to my dad the other day but he started talking about religion and then he said why do I think that I'm gay and I told him that I like a girl and stuff and he was like no u don't ur just delusional u can't be attracted to the same sex... so I just agreed to whatever he said and I went to my room and kept crying. I actually dated the girl in secret but when he found out he did not speak to me for 3 months until the day that I lied to myself and told my self to just be straight and told him that I like guys and then we started talking again.

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому +3

      I'm so sorry you had to go through that, I hope you can be yourself one day and your father starts accepting you for who you are!

    • @martamarinelli413
      @martamarinelli413 2 роки тому

      I know It can be difficult but you shouldn't pretend to be someone you're not. Try to make your dad understand that this is who you are and that it's not a choice. I hope it's going well now

    • @nunanumber13
      @nunanumber13 Рік тому

      I am sorry that you are having a hard time. I don’t know how old you are, but time passes more quickly than you think. You will eventually surround yourself with people who accept and welcome the whole of you. In the meantime, be patient with your dad. He probably believes he is helping you.

  • @newgrl
    @newgrl 2 роки тому +5

    You all keep talking about Hong Seok Cheon, but you know... you also have Go Tae-seob (고태섭), professionally known as Holland (홀랜드). He's a South Korean singer and recently starred in the web series "Oceans Like Me". I'm sure there are a thousand more that haven't come out yet, but Holland is openly gay and in the entertainment industry in South Korea.

  • @Raeray440
    @Raeray440 2 роки тому +6

    I hope they have a part 2 of this topic because there are few more SK artists that came out as gay for example Holland and yes I know he's not as big of a celebrity but he's getting there because he just did a BL called "The Ocean Likes Me" it's really good show and he even sang the OST for it too.

  • @akira_ariga
    @akira_ariga 2 роки тому +2

    My first experience with any Korean lgbtq celebrity was harisu and she was such an icon for me as a trans kid

  • @TheLibraBookworm
    @TheLibraBookworm 2 роки тому +6

    There are more Korean celebrities/singers who are openly gay (Jiae, Holland). I'm a little surprised they didn't talk about them too. Holland was just assaulted on the street recently for being gay. I think talking about that would have helped show the drastic differences between Korea and the West more

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому

      Well hate crimes happen in the west as well, especially in USA where hate crimes happen more than S. Korea, so that wouldn't really have shown difference between west and east.

    • @TheLibraBookworm
      @TheLibraBookworm 2 роки тому

      @@sambatra6162 I know hate crimes happen but I was specifically talking about celebrities since that's what the video was about

  • @brucenatelee
    @brucenatelee 2 роки тому +2

    I am straight-leaning gynosexual (think bisexual, but specifically feminine people, more trans > gay) and sexuality is like preference. You can't make somebody like the opposite or same sex anymore than making somebody like fat, skinny, short, or tall people. Nobody controls their attraction, it isn't a decision. Only whether or not you act on it is. Just because I am diabetic doesn't mean I hate the taste of sweets.

  • @DiscoInfernal999
    @DiscoInfernal999 Рік тому +1

    I remember when a fan told Troye Sivan to prank call his mom and tell her he got a girl pregnant. His mom started laughing right away 😂

  • @Niki91-HR
    @Niki91-HR 2 роки тому +12

    Its a bit funny that for the West almost if not always just the US is used. I guess for Korea it is the most known country from the West. Generally in the West, be it the american continent or the european there is still a lot of work to do when it comes to LGBTQ. Sure, we improved a lot but not enough. My country is one tiny european country and at least on paper predominantly catholic which makes it a bit harder for the LGBTQ community. The younger people I would say are more open than the older folks, but I guess that goes for a lot of countries, due to the generational difference.
    Compared to the East the West is just more vocal about things, be it LGBTQ issues, feminism, sexism, racism, whatever the case may be. We also have very conservative places and cultural differences but generally speaking even that doesnt hold us back to be vocal about social issues. I believe that is the only way to make a progress in society.
    I hope that in the East certain groups of people will have it easier as well.

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому

      Are you from Italy? Because it sounds so by your description.

    • @Niki91-HR
      @Niki91-HR 2 роки тому +1

      @@sambatra6162 nope...I am from Croatia...which is Italys neighbour by the Adriatic sea. We do have some italian influence due history though.
      The Balkan region is in these aspects still a weird place tbh.

    • @이상호-l5c1z
      @이상호-l5c1z 3 місяці тому

      Korea is very Protestant and very conservative

  • @littlegurlini
    @littlegurlini 2 роки тому +4

    I'm so surprised they didn't show Holland! He's the only openly gay Korean celebrity that came to mind for me

  • @tardistrashxd7319
    @tardistrashxd7319 2 роки тому +31

    Would love to see a part 2 of this video because there are a lot of people not shown that are very mainstream.. a like Western celebrities that Korean didn't know were gay. type of video.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому

      Yeah show Bruce Jenner. The most famous athlete in the world.

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому

      @@bngr_bngr caitlyn jenner**

  • @dAPERize
    @dAPERize 2 роки тому +7

    There are so many great LGBTQ Korean UA-camrs and celebs out there, please connect with them! MangoCouple is one, NeonMilk, Holland, Jo Kwon please there are lots of out Koreans!

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому +1

      Yup also bosungjun, todol's, etc.

  • @DulcisAbsentia
    @DulcisAbsentia 2 роки тому +5

    I can only imagine the struggle and difficulties LGBTQIA+ people have to go through not only in accepting themselves but also to speak openly about it to family and friends. To this day there are many acts of violence towards these people and I wish more laws to be implemented to make LGBTQIA+ community feel safe in their school, family, work environment. If you are one of these people and are in the closet reading this comment, I want to say that you DESERVE to be who you want to be and love whoever you want, it’s NOT a fault being gay or trans. I hope for a better and more understanding world to come and that you can all be free to be who you want to be 🏳️‍🌈 happy pride month 🏳️‍🌈

  • @Yupitsasela
    @Yupitsasela 2 роки тому +5

    It’s really a shame that Holland and MRSHLL wasn’t introduced here since they’re both openly gay singers in Korea. Especially Holland.

  • @mackenziehendrix7755
    @mackenziehendrix7755 2 роки тому +1

    The thing people have to remember is that South Korea is a conservative country, which is not a bad thing, and that it was only 66 years ago that South Korea had television. If anything, I am shocked at how fast South Korea has grown, of course with the help of social media. Also while male and female same-sex sexual activity is legal in South Korea, marriage or other forms of legal partnership are not available to same-sex partners. South Korea also provides no anti-discrimination protections for LGBT people, nor does it prohibit hate crimes based on sexual orientation and gender identity. If people, especially celebrities come out their entire lives could be ruined and if caught having sexual relations they could be legally charged with rape or molestation, even if it is consensual, sentencing them to two years in prison. Nowadays many Korean citizens under the age of 30 are more accepting it is the older generation and the law that are not as much. Wow, I didn't mean to write a paragraph but I just wanted people to know a bit of the history of South Korea and understand that even though it is sad it is commendable the fast progress that has been made.

  • @spideylexi
    @spideylexi 2 роки тому +10

    dear everyone in these comments: holland is not famous in korea. like at all.

    • @axxwqw3117
      @axxwqw3117 2 роки тому +1

      it still took a shitload of courage for him to come out and it takes five seconds to learn someone's name and occupation. they showed them jodie foster and they had no idea who she was so what does it matter. so sick of this dumb take

  • @sonofmando4239
    @sonofmando4239 2 роки тому

    Jerrod Charmichael coming out on his special rothaniel is one of the best public coming outs ever

  • @grizzay4097
    @grizzay4097 2 роки тому +2

    I was actually shocked when I knew that Troye Sivan is gay

  • @andrea.m7759
    @andrea.m7759 2 роки тому +3

    Troye my beloved 💛💙✨💐

  • @AliOmar-06
    @AliOmar-06 Рік тому

    It's interesting how open minded most of the world is. Since I'm straight man I have a lot of questions but that's just my curiosity 😂..but I love the fact that most parents and family members are very understanding and I think that's what really matters most

  • @FuryOfCalderon
    @FuryOfCalderon 2 роки тому +3

    Speaking of, did Key from Shinee ever come out?

  • @FrediLve
    @FrediLve 2 роки тому +3

    i think people have to understand that people do not want to be gay or trans. they are born like that and it is totally OKAY!!

  • @spideylexi
    @spideylexi 2 роки тому +5

    thank you for doing this video for pride month

  • @ajms.v8
    @ajms.v8 2 роки тому +6

    I like a lot of Korean things, like their language, music, tv shows, movies, fashion, skin care, etc. They show themselves as really cool to the rest of the world. But one thing I feel sad and sorry about is their thinking (at least most of them) about LGBTQIA because it's still very "prehistoric". Like a lot of Asian countries, they are still having a hard time accepting this. I just feel sorry for those who want to come out but can't or just decided to not come out entirely because of the situation of how things are in their country or fear of what people, especially their family, might say. You can never be truly happy and feel real whole if you can''t be yourself. I hope in the future every LGBTQIA person there in Korea will get full support from their community and families and their country.. or just migrate some place else lol..

  • @sobnoname
    @sobnoname 2 роки тому +1

    Another great video as always. Do a woman react to FTM glow up!!!!

  • @vickyou2238
    @vickyou2238 2 роки тому +8

    OSSC, please react to Troye Sivan's Blue Neighborhood MV trilogy!! (Wild, Fools, Talk Me Down). It's so beautifully directed and so heartbreaking. I highly recommend it.

  • @sopekookie7
    @sopekookie7 2 роки тому +2

    Chacha is so cute

  • @lovislang5570
    @lovislang5570 2 роки тому +1

    They should do a koreans try vodka! It would be really funny lol

    • @misterprickly
      @misterprickly 2 роки тому +1

      I think they already did that.
      They've done several videos where they try *really* strong drinks.

  • @aabbccddefg
    @aabbccddefg 2 роки тому +6

    근데 가족이나 친구들한테 커밍아웃 하는 사람들이 늘어나야지만 커밍아웃한 자녀나 친구들의 마음을 헤아릴 수 있는 사람들이 많아지고 이런 사람들이 늘어나야 퀴어 관련 법이 만들어진다거나 차별의 시선이 줄어들지 않을까 싶습니다. 다들 숨어만 있는다고 되는 일이 아닌 것 같아요.

  • @_King__990
    @_King__990 2 роки тому

    You guys should react to loyal dogs protecting owner or breaking in house!

  • @Alex-kd4nu
    @Alex-kd4nu 4 місяці тому

    It's sad that they didn't show a more recent video of Elliott page

  • @taunteratwill1787
    @taunteratwill1787 Рік тому

    Imagine the amount suppressed and frustrated people walking around in Korea. 😂

  • @mikailagray
    @mikailagray 2 роки тому

    Here we are 3 weeks later and in the US we have our highest court and many politicians gunning to take rights from women, lgbt people etc. having people appear in media is a big step but unfortunately laws are more important and this year has been the most anti lgbtq year legislatively across the US .

  • @Dutchbelg3
    @Dutchbelg3 Рік тому

    Girls from OSSC (Boys too!!) please be the generation that tell the people around you to change their view.. You are the ones that need to change your world. If you don't do it your kids will have the consequences !!

  • @crapreact5989
    @crapreact5989 2 роки тому +7

    you guys are so sweet happy pride

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr 2 роки тому

      Don’t let a Muslim know you are an alphabet.

    • @sambatra6162
      @sambatra6162 2 роки тому

      @@bngr_bngr go away troll🤡🤡

  • @16poetisa
    @16poetisa 2 роки тому

    Not all celebrities have had the best experiences coming out, for actors especially, someone (I can't remember who) commented that Hollywood is a conservative place that pretends to be liberal. Kristen Stewart has talked about how it was hard being in the industry as an out actor, although she was less established and earlier in her career. And Elliot Page came out as gay all the way back in 2014!

  • @margotrrrr3512
    @margotrrrr3512 2 роки тому +2

    I know it has nothing to do but can you do a reaction to the movies with dicaprio 'don't look up' from Netflix

  • @amerulmatrusof8528
    @amerulmatrusof8528 2 роки тому +1

    POV: Manggo couple singing lalalalalalalala😂

  • @0sleepninja0
    @0sleepninja0 Рік тому

    I'm surprised Ellen's coming out wasn't shown. Her coming out happened on her sitcom!

  • @yazzi-x6699
    @yazzi-x6699 2 роки тому +4

    Nunca precisei falar pra minha mae que eu sou gay, ela ja sabia kkkk é algo tão natural aqui em casa que a minha família toda fica chocada quando vemos algo sobre homofobia em qualquer lugar, tipo??? Pra que despejar ódio em alguém que está simplesmente amando? Não faz sentido a homofobia, amor é amor!

  • @finallyintroducingloona4472
    @finallyintroducingloona4472 2 роки тому +13

    3:40 Holland too ☺️

  • @hyunnHAA_
    @hyunnHAA_ 2 роки тому

    I wish Holland, Mrshall was included in this for the Korean side. (regardless if they are well known in Korea or not🤍)

  • @anyaashah248
    @anyaashah248 Рік тому

    I only found out through that hong seok cheon was gay when i watched merry queer before that u didn't know 😅 but i am not that surprised i guess

  • @nabszains
    @nabszains 2 роки тому +13

    hey whoever puts translations on the vid, please refer to trans people by their correct pronouns even when you're referring to them before they came out as trans :)
    also would've loved to see holland here

  • @TheLittlelan
    @TheLittlelan 2 роки тому +4

    I actually think Holland should be in here he has vlogs on his own channel along with the music videos which they can show and it brings up how being gay affected his career seeing as they don't know him

  • @taetae4978
    @taetae4978 2 роки тому

    Actually there is an idol called HOLLAND who is also a gay in Korea.

  • @AnnaPotts818swifferbaby
    @AnnaPotts818swifferbaby 2 роки тому

    Have they ever reacted to KissCam footage? That always makes me laugh 🤣

  • @Amanda6532
    @Amanda6532 2 роки тому

    I wish they would have shown Holland as a Korean example.

  • @trash-3058
    @trash-3058 2 роки тому +3

    My parents used to be very homophobic but then my brother came out (followed by the rest of us kids but two lmao) and he had it really rough
    He was so scared he would be sent to conversion therapy like his best friend at the time was but my mom showed no compassion
    My mom outed him to the rest of the family then another brother (who’s actually openly gay now) and one of my aunts outed him to the church we went to
    They forced him out the church (my family didn’t stop going to said church for a really long time)
    He got death threats at school causing the school to transfer him to another school for bad kids they call “choices” (like your choices get you here 🙄) instead of the kids bullying him (later they sent those same fucking kids to choices like wtf)
    They also did this to my friend who accidentally got outed as trans like 4 years later
    Oh and a year or so ago some dude was beat up at our local fucking huddle house for being gay
    There’s more I could say but to keep it shorter I’ll just say that it’s never 100% safe for anyone to come out
    It really sucks and I sometimes can’t believe that just because others don’t like who I am I’m likely to be hate crimed
    When I move out I’ll come out to my parents as trans
    I don’t think I can do it while I’m still living with them (I’m not brave enough for it 💀)
    My parents already know I’m not straight but I didn’t have come out for that
    I was just not straight 😭
    They don’t have have to change how they look or refer to as because of but with being gender fluid its different
    Even if they aren’t going to kick me out or disown me I’m not ready to deal with constantly having to be around them “trying”
    Life isn’t exactly easy being queer but no matter how many times I think “why me” at least I’m not a cis straight white male 😭

  • @hobi9196
    @hobi9196 2 роки тому +4

    I am damn early no comments to read 🥴🧍🏻‍♀️

  • @tuilelor
    @tuilelor 2 роки тому

    Even here in Finland it's lawfully possible to marry person who is same gender as you. 🇫🇮🏳‍🌈

  • @92explorer74
    @92explorer74 2 роки тому +1

    Someone said that socially korea is stuck in the 50s and i see why

  • @조서현-m6k
    @조서현-m6k 2 роки тому

    Jodie❤️

  • @snowflakesun1444
    @snowflakesun1444 2 роки тому +3

    damn I’m early- I finally understand people who make this comment

  • @heatherspence3848
    @heatherspence3848 Рік тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @thatbabiechoiceot5469
    @thatbabiechoiceot5469 2 роки тому +3

    Please cover Holland his music and his acting career next time!!! please it's pride month!! 🏳️‍🌈❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🤎

  • @anindaosman807
    @anindaosman807 2 роки тому +4

    I'm a huuge fan of OSSC. I love all your reaction videos and expressions. Can you please react to Bo Burnhams songs from the inside album:
    1. White woman Instagram
    2. Content
    3. Jeffrey Bezos
    4. Sexting
    *any song from the album Inside. They are all great music videos and songs. I would highly appreciate it if you accept this request. Thanks. Lots of love.

  • @kabelo2
    @kabelo2 2 роки тому +4

    It would be great if you did a video where they react to Korean gay couples

  • @rini9325
    @rini9325 2 роки тому +3

    Why was sam smith on the thumbnail when he wasn't in the video?

    • @axxwqw3117
      @axxwqw3117 2 роки тому +1

      sam smith is nonbinary fyi

  • @sommerrain46just79
    @sommerrain46just79 2 роки тому

    Unfortunate for people who hide who they are because it not only hurts the individual but those who they need to hide in the closet like getting married to the opposite sex without them knowing can be very painful marriages etc..

  • @erikad0511
    @erikad0511 2 роки тому +1

    There are many openly gay Korean UA-camrs... obviously that's a bit different than Korean celebs but there are visible gays in Korea atleast

  • @kieranshae
    @kieranshae 2 роки тому +1

    Isn't Jo Kwan openly queer?

    • @axxwqw3117
      @axxwqw3117 2 роки тому

      he's gender fluid and has spoken openly about his support for gay people

  • @posthumorous
    @posthumorous 2 роки тому

    it would have been great if you had shown more people in this video, it was very short. and more diverse ones at that. from the west there were no poc at all. also they were all US-american, but the west includes more countries than just the US. from korea you really could have shown e.g. holland and quite a couple of others listed in the comments here.

  • @AmberMarrrie
    @AmberMarrrie 2 роки тому +2

    It hurts my heart that people in the LGBT+ community in Korea are still so oppressed

  • @BloodofaFool
    @BloodofaFool 2 роки тому +1

    I still don't think Minji is 100% comfortable reacting to gay things.. and they react to gay videos quite often. She seems over it lol. Cha-cha is like a chameleon with her reaction and whoever she's with. S Korea has grew so much in the past 10 years. They are still battling with women equality let alone race or sexuality. I hope they continue to grow and open their minds.

  • @Psynergic
    @Psynergic 2 роки тому +3

    No Holland? 😭
    A rare miss by OSSC. Particularly after he was recently attacked on the streets of Seoul...

  • @RatsRatsIsthebest
    @RatsRatsIsthebest 2 роки тому

    Why do they get so mad when someone comes out? But they want their idols to kiss?

  • @Roblox.G
    @Roblox.G 2 роки тому +1

    You will not defeat me,you will no defeat me

  • @Alex-kd4nu
    @Alex-kd4nu 4 місяці тому

    Please change the captions Elliott uses he him pronouns not she her

  • @RiyaDas-mk1hb
    @RiyaDas-mk1hb 2 роки тому +5

    You should include holland and mrshll