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Breaking the internet on a TV review is hilarious. Folks: 1. There is no one perfect TV for all scenarios 2. OLED does have some disadvantages in non light controlled rooms. 3. The average person watching TV in a mixed use setting would like enjoy the B9 benifits more than OLED especially when factoring in size/cost. 4. If your biggest tech issue is deciding between a A95L and a B9 you are winning at life.
Hi Andrew, Thanks for giving your detailed, honest review of the Bravia 9 and dealing with the frustrating comments. Your clear enthusiasm for this TV and its merits has shown me that I'd be very happy with this model. Knowing the trade-offs, I wouldn't be missing out on the picture quality I want by not choosing OLED.
I watched your Bravia 9 review. Every second of it, three times. Then after some comparison and a little critical thinking I went and purchased the 85” version. I couldn’t be more impressed. Thank you and keep up the fantastic work!
Andrew, Thank you for providing such a well balanced review of the Bravia 9. You are the reviewer I always turn to when making a decision on Hi Fi and video equipment. Thank you!
Keep doing what you are doing Brother! I love it! I had the x95l, B7 and the ended up with the B9. It has been the best TV I've ever owned and this is coming from a LG OLED owner.
I just bought he 85 inch Bravia 9 yesterday. Mounted it up. This blows my LG CX away especially in HDR. Way Better colors . More pop in small highlights. Major upgrade. Thank you
That's why I always look forward to your take; it never seems to come from a darker place. It is what it is, which makes it easy to engage and exchange thoughts and ideas. I really appreciate that about your presence in our community.
Haters gonna hate. For every comment, good or bad, there are 99 viewers who really enjoyed your video without feeling the need to comment/complain about something. There will always be a few folks piping up from the peanut gallery with complaints because they have nothing better to do.
You can start banning people who do not feel inclined to civil discourse. it’ll make the atmosphere much more pleasant for the rest of us. You’re under no obligation to provide a platform for the haters to share their views.
LOL! I loved the review and loved you giving your opinion. I am someone who also owns multiple OLEDs and a couple mini led TVs. I did a blind TV test and picked the Bravia 9 at a show. Some people are so blindly loyal now a days that its strange. Most of these angry people haven't even seen one setup. At Best Buy for example, its on store mode which won't do it justice. We are so focused on what something is on paper(including speakers) instead of seeing or hearing something ourselves. This Bravia 9 is incredible. To my eyes, blacks are blacks but the brightness is very different to my eyes. Especially highlights. I don't see or notice blooming and that is easy for me to spot. Anyways great review and thanks for just being you and telling your opinion. There are times I may disagree with your opinions but I still enjoy hearing them. Thanks guys
I have to weigh in here, as someone who works with all TVs on a daily basis AND currently owns a 65A95L for most people's viewing habits the Bravia 9 is the better TV, brighter SDR, Brighter Cinema and Professional modes with minimal black crushing on the whole. The only reason I have the A95L is because in the UK the 65 Bravia 9 hasn't been released yet and I cannot fit a 75". All these TVs are amazing in their own right. Some people prefer OLED, some people prefer Mini LED, but what Sony has done with the B9 is truly magical.
I tend to agree it’s controversial. I understand this is a business but if a reviewer lacks the courage to acknowledge that OLED is a superior technology it unfortunately will end up making viewers question everything about the reviewer. Sony didn’t go with led because it’s better. They went with it because it’s cheaper and higher margin. They can milk their good name for a few years and sell these much higher margin tvs based on reputation alone.
Thank you for including my poorly phrased question & answering it so well as usual… much appreciated! I have windows🪟 on either side 🪟of our ‘not so GREAT ROOM,’ so even though my wife (Christie with a C) and I close all the blinds when enjoying movie time, the image from our 📽️ is still completely blown out & lacking in contrast… hence the desire to upgrade to a not too reflective 🗯️TV. Also apologies for my screen name ‘snow in Okinawa’🇯🇵 which seems to trip everyone up due to lower cases + lack of spaces; it stems from a musical artist from 🍣Okinawa named ‘Ryukyu Underground.’🌊 They do a sort of electronica infused with a traditional Okinawan instrument named the Sanshin🪕 I saw them play live when I was living there. Their track ‘snow in Okinawa,’ is a tongue-in-cheek expression since the weather there never gets below 15°C 🏝️(59°F). Have a great weekend :) Nickolas🇦🇺
Damn you Robinson for not feeding peoples pre-conceived notions. 😂😂 Some people have FOMO, but many more have MACO(mad about contradictory opinion). This goes for more than A/V reviews. Thanks for all your reviews.
I went from a 65 Sony A80J to 85 inch X90L and yes it’s “worse” but people must be way more sensitive than me. The picture quality at 85 is really fantastic and I have zero complaints. Is there sometimes blooming? Yes. Is it distracting and destroys what I’m watching? No. I took the time to dial in the custom settings and the effort pays off. If I side by side to oled I can clearly see a difference but it’s not the end of the world. When 80+ inch oled comes down in price I’m all in but for now I’ll enjoy saving $. Im personally more interested in enjoying what I’m watching over dissecting micro contrast and nuance of every single frame.
as a high ranking member of the ODF even I can admit OLED is not for every use case or for everyone, but it's the right TV for me and my room. The best TV is the one your eyeballs like, has the features you need, and fits in your budget :) ODF signing out!
Communicating _perception_ is a special kind of nightmare (I have two friends who will sit in the same room with me, listen to the same _____, and we _still_ have different experiences), which is why I always appreciate the extra dose of data you include in reviews... seems people ignore your final "remember, the only person..." tagline
How odd. I come here to hear what you guys think; not to argue with you. This stuff is subjective and I value your opininons as they're well informed. You've watched more TVs and listened to more speakers than I ever will -- and I thank you for doing so. :)
I watched your review on the Sony A95L and loved it. I didn’t give you any flak because I thought you did a fine and professional job. I bought the a95l and couldn’t be happier. I’m still amazed with its picture and performance but I’m not a gamer and will never be a gamer. I think the a95l is the best picture and color I’ve ever seen in my life. If I could afford two, I’d buy two but I have to eat, even though food looks better on my A95L.
“This TV is incredible!” Audience: BOOOO! 🤷♂️ This is such a strange hobby at times. Keep up the great work for reasonable people like myself and I imagine much of your audience. Don’t let them ruffle your apple cart! 😝
I have calibrated several A95L’s and Bravia 9’s. In fact I had both the Bravia 9 and A95 L literally side by side, while I was calibrating them. Looking back at my records yes, confirmed the Bravia 9’s DE after calibration is lower at an average of 0.80 VS the A95L at 1.3. However we all know there is very little perceptible difference in a DE under three. White Balance is definitely important but between these two displays the overwhelming difference is in the Color Volume and Gamut. When you see these displays side by side the A95L is just beautiful, colors pop and the Bravia 9 looks a bit flat by comparison. The contrast of the displays is also noticeably different. The Micro Contrast of the A95L is as of yet peerless unless comparing directly to another OLED. Now, do I love the Bravia 9? YES, Hell yes! Loved Andrew’s point. Guys, there is NO BEST TV. There is only the best TV for your environment and use case. Why did I have the A95 and B9 side by side?? Because I sold them to a client for different locations within their home. You guessed it, The A95L was their theater display and the Bravia 9 was their everyday Living Room Driver. Ambient room light during the day sealed the best option as the B9. The Bravia 9 is literally the best QLED to have ever existed, it is gorgeous. Considering what it was designed to do and what SONY‘s goals were. It is an epic achievement. Is it as good as the A 95L in some ways? NO. However, I have seen content on the Bravia 9 and the A 95L mastered at 4000 NITS. Guys, content mastered at this level is coming, very soon and when comparing the B9 and the A95L, in this instance, the Bravia 9 was noticeably more lifelike. There are so many variables to consider, it is literally the case that both televisions shine and will outdo each other given a certain set of circumstances and parameters. Both TVs are exceptional. Both are made by SONY. Well done. Andrew, keep your chin up. Love your reviews and the nuance you attempt to deliver to the masses. sometimes a pill of truth doesn’t go down easy.
"When you see these displays side by side the A95L is just beautiful, colors pop and the Bravia 9 looks a bit flat by comparison." - False. I've got an 85" Bravia 9 and a 77" A95L side-by-side, both professionally calibrated in a light controlled room. Bravia 9 looks phenomenal and holds its own against the A95L. Its HDR in particular pops more and the A95L looks to be lacking in comparison.
Only just got round to watching this episode of unplugged and so glad I did! Got a couple of friends wanting to buy new TVs and I'm just going to direct them here to hear about all the in depth things you have raised. Thank you 👍🏻
Your Videos are always good. As much as I love Sony, I just literally bought a 83” S90D at half the retail price. But I like how easy the Q990C and D just connect to it. Can’t wait to connect my PS5 to it. Game on. Keep up the good work
What a pleasant surprise to see my comment from the previous review video getting center stage. I love my Sony X95K mini LED and you won't believe this but I have over 12,000 hours on it. So yeah I need a durable tv with a great picture and Sony delivers.
Hi Andrew & Kristi. Thanks for superb reviews. They have helped so much in making choices on buying my gear & has also saved me money by making the right choices. Keep up the good work. Have great Christmas from Alan in the UK.
Kristi's playful reading of comments and Andrew's sheepish reaction -- that's a hoot. It's a pleasure listening to both of you.. I've had the Bravia 9 for a few months now and my takeaway is that Sony has managed to get both the control of a Z9D and the power of a Z9K finally into one TV. Watching HDR content just puts a smile on my face with how natural the image looks (calibrated professional mode) Well done Sony!!
Thank you so much for all your work, I've learned so much from watching your videos, you're an amazing reviewer. When it comes to opinions on top end products, noone is the arbiter of truth.
You guys are freakin great!! Absolutely love watching your vids and put a lot of faith in your reviews. I own the 85 B9 and it's fantastic. I also like it better than OLED's as I'm just not an OLED fan. As far as the comments, people nowadays are only happy when they're mad. Stop worrying about them, you'll never be able to make them all happy and you shouldn't have to. Great vids guys. Keep doing what you do. All the best to both of ya!
It’s funny that everyone is comparing this tv to the A95L, when really the actual only competition for this tv because of the 80”+ size is the LG G4 since none of the other top end OLED’s are available in that size. Size is a quality in and of itself that the other top oleds from Sony lack. Which is why I bought the G4. But don’t worry, I’m not mad about this review. Keep up the good work
I just wanter to add to the drama. I work at a best buy and have looked at all the top oled TV's in all their picture settings and the Bravia 9 is extremely competitive. I can see myself buying it over a s90d and even a G4 regardless of the room. At the end of the day personal preference trumps specs.
I feel like people that are making those comments at the beginning are the same people that are “very passionate” about their Dragons… I mean, chill out. When done right, even as an OLED fan and constant user myself, I’m happy with Sony making microLED their flagship. First, we haven’t had this quality of LED period so far from any brand. Two, it’s a cheaper technology compared to OLED and considering prices aren’t going down any time soon, it makes sense. Especially considering it already shows how much cheaper it is since they significantly lowered the flagship price compared to last year and QD-OLED panels. My only single gripe with Sony, as I said before, is their reluctance to put in 4 2.1 HDMI ports. And they have no excuse for it at all aside for not wanting to offer competition foothold in the console market. They want you to own a PlayStation only. That’s annoying as hell. But also, knowing Sony, nothing will compare to their processing, image processing and backlight control, period. This one is no different. Also, have a friend who just bought it. It looks better in game mode than my G2 OLED. It just does, and those insanely bright spec highlights in HDR is just cherry on top. And I adore my G2. People need to relax and go enjoy their half baked Samsung cookie. Some like it half baked, some like it raw. Doesn’t mean either one is wrong. Unless you say Subway makes good cookies, cause if so, we can’t be friends. 😂 Great conversation guys as always! And I am still listening!
"Subway makes good cookies" 😂 We call Subway sandwiches "hate sandwiches" because by my old office we had a Subway restaurant and the staff there, I swear, assembled your order with pure spite in their heart. One guy, he was my favorite, because he would give you an ear-full about 💩 customers as he made your sandwich.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews oh I know. They shut down subway on a military base because of sanitary issues so bad, they had to tear down the building and build a new one lol
We need difference of opinions and Andrew's is one I value. Dont always agree but thats apart of being a well informed human. So Andrew dont lose any sleep over the hate, but before you sleep peacefully, make sure you turn off that OLED, burn-in sucks - LOL
As someone that has actually lived with an lg c2 for 2 years, I think that there’s a word that’s missing that can really help out: context. Now the c2 is dimmer than the c4 by a bit, but in cinema mode… like it can get really really dark. I can live with it and I love my c2, where I live we don’t have Sony tvs, he’ll lg only sells the c and g series oleds here. But people miss the context of having such great local illumination in the new Sony as well as a lot more brightness in sdr and hdr. Sure, in a dark room the oleds are going to take the crown, but come on, basically no one does that. The context of both the environment and contrast differential within the tvs presentation is key and people really don’t understand or don’t want to hear it.
If you want a TV, that is very close to OLED without it’s problems buy the Sony Bravia 9 85 inches what Mr. Robinson is saying is true and he mentioned other reviewers that I watch to say the same thing the problem with you people that your feelings get hurt too easily it’s time to grow up
@BigT6544 i play a lot of games in hdr and the per pixel control is so important in a lot of scenes. Lots of starfields or tiny highlights like sparks or atmospheric effects that have bright spots that only use a pixel or so. Even the best mini led wouldn't be able to deliver in those scenes. For content you're just viewing mini led still rocks. Not to mention mini led tvs and monitors rely on a backlight algorithm that introduces input lag in games. Oleds are just superior in gaming which is where I spend most of my time in front of a screen.
@@veilmontTV I use an OLED for gaming. Payed 3k for a C2 OLED. Started noticing burn-in after about 6 months, it is terrible after a few years. I would never recommend someone buy an oled for gaming.
I just bought the 85 inch Bravia 9 several days ago. Mounted it up. This replaced my LG CX 77 inch and it blows it away. Way Better colors . More pop in HDR highlights. Brighter full field especially watching sports. Still love the CX as it has great contrast and still has slightly sharper image than the b9 in some scenes. Maybe I can sharpen up the details a little more after a few adjustments on the b9. But colors are way better. And HDR is on another level. Major upgrade.
How is the picture for sports, is it jittery or blocky while watching a player run, is there a vapor trail of a football in the air? Any sports insight is helpful as no one expands on how it looks. Thanks
@@sthsth1272 no trails. No blocky artifacts in motion. I set the motion to clearness 2. It helps a lot with motion resolution. The screen stays full field bright and colorful and doesn’t dim down like my CX oled over a short period of time. I just got the tv so I will have a better comparison in the next few days especially after watching more football and basketball. The reality creation works great in enhancing details also and keeps the image in motion very sharp
@ I would definitely get a QD Oled if they had sizes larger than 80 inches, but they don’t. And I would never get another woled again. 77 is a little too small for my current room. This was my best option for my needs and usage for my current situation with bright daylight viewing and sports. Thanks.
Appreciate your in video response from my previous comment. The TCL QM8 is a television I've tried to compare from your previous videos, it doesn't appear to be available in Australia though. The flagship 98" TCL television to my knowledge here is the TCL 98C855. From a specification point of view it doesn't appear to be comparable to the QM8, but it is at a similar price point to the X90L. There's a level of flexibility in seating position for my setup, so I'll weigh that up before discounting the Bravia 9 on size limitations, 9.5ft is THX recommended based on your shared calculator and may well be viable. My other hesitation with TCL is the numerous issues I've had with multiple TCL TV's with regard to integration and consistent functional operation. I've always found Sony TV's to be consistently reliable with their integration with other hardware, which in addition to their overall quality tends to make me somewhat brandest.
ignore the triggered fanboys. You do an Amazing job with your reviews. Don't take trolls seriously. Most of them can't do any critical thinking. Another review convinced them to buy something, and now they need to validate themselves by bashing your reviews.
I recently found your channel and have watched many posts/videos and soon after became a member. Your insights and content is amazing. Thank you for your channel and the advice. Love it!
As always, thanks for your honest opinion and expertise! I always say, get the TV that YOU like the best. Ad long as you are happy with it, your good to go! Keep up the good work!!
Man, I love these reviews! I am curious. Was your love of this TV right from the very on set? Or did it happen gradually after you performed calibration? Keep up the great work. You and Kristi are so entertaining to watch. All the best.
Even Rtings gets complains all the time for how their measurements doesn’t reflects user’s experience and sometimes they even have to retest the products as well either cuz users comments or the brands reaching out asking them to retest. If people find some reviews doesn’t match with their experience, how hard it is just to ask “hey, I have this product and it doesn’t do that, I’m curious of how you come up with your conclusion” or something like that?
About the blooming discussion.. I have a small cataract in my right eye and I get some "blooming" with every screen I look at .. even the OLED monitor on my desk. Getting older sucks, but being older also means that I was one of those PLAMSA guys. I still have my Panasonic ST60 (in my bedroom) and I still love it - all these years later.
Happy Thanksgiving A&K. The Unplugged Big 3-0! Great discussion for anybody in the market for a new TV. Lots of important buyer consideration topics covered. Enjoy the weekend. Looking forward to Sunday.
I have the Sony A90J, I bought it about 3 years ago, and I think it's pretty good especially in a dark setting. The detail really stands out, so I am okay with the picture not being as bright. But I am open to trying a QLED the next time I purchase in a few years because you are limited to screen size with an OLED. By then, there may be even less blooming and less issues with television angles on the QLED.
I was kind of proud of myself for not coming out with pitchforks for the ODT. I still love my LG C1 65" OLED but have decided to only defend against people making false statements about burn-in. It's OK to like mini LED.
There can be only 1. Lol I am still rocking an A80J, and it still looks great to me. And it replaced my 930D, which was a great tv for its time. As an AV installer, I've seen all tv's and agree with Andrew about the Brava 9.
Sometimes you need an indepedent opinion: When we had our plasma, I warned my wife about the off-axis picture. She said, "Ok, I won't sit there." When I told my eye doctor I was having trouble reading the leader board on races, he said "Get a bigger TV and sit closer." Sony XR7593L: Viola - problems solved!
Hi Andrew! Thanks for a very good youtube channel. I really appreciate that you are an audiophile with both feet on the ground. Appropriately geeky and very relevant. Have you thought about doing a clean review on party speakers? Eg Soundbooks, JBL etc. It feels like you are the right person to do it. You have an ability to value products based on their usage recommendations and customer group.
HdtvTest didnt use the bravia 9 for their blind shootout, he said even if they used Bravia 9 he dont think Sony will fare any better, preferring to put last years sony OLED flagship vs today's Oled. But its pretty clear why The bravia 9 isnt there, simply because having a Mini LED among OLED will single out the sony tv alone, thus rather than having everyone's bias pollute the vote they rather put some people's question of "how will last year winner fare against bew offering" and gige the answer.
Stepping back always remember that tech can be a religious topic for your audiences. Look at how people fight over EVs versus internal combustion cars. I didnt think your video was controversial at all but I am not a TV expert. I am still rocking my 75 inch sony x900h LED tv that is four years old. Keep up the great content!
The Bravia 9 was made for one type of market. That market is 4K HD on streaming services. With more movies are on streaming services and with more people watching 4K HD on streaming services Sony wanted a TV that can show these streaming movies at their best. Sony studio also makes movies. So the Bravia 9 being a miniled TV panel can really pulls this off watching movies on streaming services. It's why it got the higher number over the oled B 8.
So would the 9 do better streaming than say the LG C4 or G4 or would those two do as good or better and be able to flex up when asked of it? We mainly use plex , UA-cam tv in 4k and apps such as Disney
@bradshumate783 When the Bravia 9 came out then Sony Rep Rob Brennan talked about it on Brian's Tech Therapy channel. It's not oled versus Miniled competition. It is meant for the best use case for streaming movies. You can search for Rob Brennan. He did like 5 interviews. Sony engineers are the ones that assign model names. The Sony Bravia 8 is an LG Display WOled panel. So it compares to the C4.
I think what threw viewers off about your opinion on the B9 being superior to all OLEDs is the results of the 2024 Value Electronics shootoff, as well as the opinions of other UA-cam content creators such as Stop the FOMO, Brian from Tech Therapy, Tech with KG, QuantumTV, and RTngs, with regards to which technology is superior. While most also acknowledge the beauty and brightness and sound quality of the B9, they are quick to acknowledge OLED will always have better contrast due to pixel-level dimming control in the millions, hence the term “infinite contrast ratio”, vs the best mini leds having a contrast ratio in the hundreds of thousands:1, with dimming zones in the thousands, but not in the millions, such as it would be on a pixel level. That said, I purchased a 2024 TCL QM851g earlier this year based on some reviews I’d seen and I’ve been satisfied with my purchase so far, as far as quality to cost ratio is concerned. They also all grossly overstate the off angle viewing losing contrast. I can stand at almost 180 degrees to my screen and barely notice a difference worth noting. Blues are still blue, etc.
Im still with my Sony 4K LED TV 4 years now, and i'm happy with it. Great and accured colors, not the black of an oled, but im happy! SONY isn't here in brazil anymore, so no more sony tvs for me, but i loved your review and understand you.
Changing seating distance isn't the only factor to immersion. It's the size of the images and scene on the TV that get larger also and that doesn't change with seating distance, just your peripheral view is filled more as you get closer. You can't tell me that watching a 48" TV at 3' is better than watching a movie on an 85" TV at 10'. To get that true home theater experience, you need a large TV, just like a theater, a large screen, seated far away. You can hold an ipad right in front of your face, but it isn't the same experience as watching a truly large screen, even from a far distance. All seating distance takes into account, is field of vision, there is more to immersion and feeling than that.
There's a lot going on in this comment. Of course, if you sit closer, the size of the images on the screen will look larger than if you are sitting farther away. Even a well-designed commercial theater takes seating distances and viewing angles into consideration.
@@KristiWright The size of the object doesn't get larger though, if you sit close, it just may look bigger. It is more true to life size on a bigger TV and your brain knows the size it is, even from a distance. There is a very different feel watching a movie on an 85" TV and a 55" or even 65" TV at any distance. You can't get a big screen feel, from a smaller TV. You can improve the feel, but it's not the same experience. Try sitting closer to a 55" TV and then watch a 77"+ TV from any distance and tell me it's not a more cinematic experience on the larger TV. There is way more to a cinematic feel and immersion, than field of vision.
Large Sony mid range for the win until streaming gets better and keeps up with the specs. My X90L is performing amazing where friends with OLED and other brands are dumb founded
Hahaha. As a member of the QDODF I haven't seen any Mini LED that can compete. Curious to see the B9 as well as those giant Hisense and TCL high end models. But for me (I enjoy sci fi) micro contrast is important. Very important. And I couldn't be happier with my S95C. But it is simply a matter of priorities.
Yeah but those Kuros and late Panasonics were awesome. But... I don't know about OLED going away. With notebooks they are now everywhere, despite costing a premium and being kind of a dumb idea, as they consume more power, burn in, ... There are still some improvements coming to big OLEDs, ink jet printing will finally be a thing (TCL seems to ramp up manufacturing?), etc. I wouldn't bet on either side, and while OLEDs get cheaper in manufacturing, producing a really good Mini LED is expensive and complicated. It needs expensive processing and everything.
@@wojtek-33 My S95C does DV. And DTS. The Apple TV decodes to 7.1 PCM and turns the DV to HDR10 (according to Dolby specs). Since the TV hits 1000 nits easily anyway, there's little need for DV apart from compatibility.
@kadajawi2 apple TV PCM doesn't do height channels. No Samsung TV does dolby vision. DV is not a compatibility thing, it's a superior HDR thing and hdr10+ content is pretty limited. Regular HDR is available on every TV because it's the bare minimum.
Bravia 9 is the best tv ATM. No question about that. Minni led wins over Oled. Watched your full review and it's clear as day. Just use your eyes OLED tvs are amazing but Sony took minni led tvs to another level. Eat it OLED fanboys!!!
After months of going back and forth between the A95L and the G4, I decided on the 77” A95L. I didn’t consider the S95D! The A95L is very bright, up scaling is outstanding! Picture quality is excellent! Build quality can’t be matched! The A95L is a very expensive TV, and I understand not everyone can afford it, but if you can just buy the DAMN thing!
Andrew this is happening in every single space!! So many people comment on a video and they don’t even watch the dang video. They just comment off of a thumbnail or just comment their opinion on the topic and move along. The human race is getting very weird lately. Everyone is aggressive against any and everything that doesn’t fit their belief or opinion. A bunch of closed minds.
I believe, all the flagship TVs are great and cannot be distinguish by a big margin when it comes to picture quality. So, I always suggest my customers to choose a TV based on 3 things. 1- Picture Processing. 2- Sound (Because most of them don’t use or want Soundbars or Audio Systems) 3- The operating systems.
Hopefully Robinson doesn't let the crazy comments get to him too much. I have a now ancient Lg B8 oled that still looks great and one greatly enjoy looking at. That doesn't blind me to see that newer TVs will be better, both oled and mini/microled.
I just purchased a 77” A95L. The picture quality is breathtaking, up scaling is amazing, contrast/resolution pulls you in to what ever you’re watching. A bright picture doesn’t equate to a better picture quality! That’s the problem that Samsung has with its tv’s.
Interesting. Have had 65" S90D and U8N next to each other for the past week. U8N wins, mostly b/c I find the S90D to make things look too blue/green in general. I suppose I could hire a calibrator to fix that, but the U8N with the rtings 2 point settings looks great. Snow on the s90D looks like it has a turquoise mist on it. This is without calibration. S90D going back to the store.
Geez. TV debates are getting as bad as politics. Get the TV that best fits your use case/budget/needs. I’m team QD-OLED, but the Bravia 9 is a stunner. Great to see Sony roaring back and improving their LCD models. 85X95K and 85X95L were very good, but this is big step up. People need to get out of their feelings.
I can completely relate about getting the "sayings" wrong, my wife does the same thing! Like it raining dogs & cats, it's down & up, are we going to eat over lefts? Cracks me up!
Doesn’t the enormous spectrum glare that goes across the entire screen bother you??? That was too distracting to me and in the end we went with the 83” LG G4. Best tv I’ve ever seen!
OLED glass is still reflective in a bright room so I'm not sure how much better off you'd be, unless that OLED is able to compensate with brightness. We'd love to test the G4 and I did request it again this week but I'm not holding my breath. Glad you are happy though!
@@KristiWrightIt has reflective glass, like all OLED’s, but in my opinion that’s different from the distracting spectrum of light that streaks across the entire screen. It’s actually really bad. If it wasn’t for that, the B9 is a really nice tv. But that was a deal breaker.
Great intro to the video 😂 I attended a Sony training and felt well brainwashed to agree with your review (but would still be happy to have my good ol’ OLED). I’m curious how you would view the X8 since it’s their best mini available in a 55”
Good afternoon, Andrew & Kristi. It might be my generation or education but I believe that Andrew's presentation and comments are "thought-provoking" and not controversial. I say this because the use of the word "controversial" is more of a click bait marker than anything else. Andrew states his case clearly and shows his thought processes that go unnoticed when individuals don't listen and hear him out. I have an extremely low tolerance of Pre-Meditated Stupidity and avoid people who engage in its use. Keep up the good work, Kristi and Andrew! I appreciate your hard work and high ethical standards and logical thought processes.
totally off topic question, but do you think samsung will ever release a frame with better specs, maybe even mini led or is the overlap of customers who want the frame form factor and who are also hifi and av geeks is just too small?
If the TV can deal with your room lighting situation and handles motion well. You're done ! Avoid the tech snake (the one that's biting it's tail). Andrew calls em as he sees them and that's fine by me. 🙂
I just don’t buy the seating recommendations to picture size. I was at a relatives house yesterday and they have a 85” tv and it looked huge and I was sitting about 12 feet. When roaming around in the house closer to 16 to 18 feet it still looked good. Sure I’m sure anyone’s brain could re-adjust to a larger size but 98” seems ridiculous for an average room. I’m sitting right now in front of a 65” at 8’ and the set looks very pleasing to my eyes. But whatever floats your boat. Not being critical as I enjoy your videos.
Picked up a 65” LG G4 at a deep discount but if the 65” Bravia was available I might have thought about it. Going forward brightness will be more and more of a factor as directors etc get use to the idea especially for 4k blurays.
Nobody beats my LG C9 (part of the OLED defence force 😂). Lol, im praying Santa or anyone will just bless me with a 77 or 83 inch variant down the line in the future.
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Breaking the internet on a TV review is hilarious. Folks:
1. There is no one perfect TV for all scenarios
2. OLED does have some disadvantages in non light controlled rooms.
3. The average person watching TV in a mixed use setting would like enjoy the B9 benifits more than OLED especially when factoring in size/cost.
4. If your biggest tech issue is deciding between a A95L and a B9 you are winning at life.
Please review Panasonic and Philips oleds
Are Sony actually manufacturing their own panels or sourcing third parties panels ?
@@WhatTheFragrance We'd love to get our hands on a Panasonic.
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for giving your detailed, honest review of the Bravia 9 and dealing with the frustrating comments. Your clear enthusiasm for this TV and its merits has shown me that I'd be very happy with this model. Knowing the trade-offs, I wouldn't be missing out on the picture quality I want by not choosing OLED.
I watched your Bravia 9 review. Every second of it, three times. Then after some comparison and a little critical thinking I went and purchased the 85” version. I couldn’t be more impressed. Thank you and keep up the fantastic work!
Andrew, Thank you for providing such a well balanced review of the Bravia 9. You are the reviewer I always turn to when making a decision on Hi Fi and video equipment. Thank you!
Keep doing what you are doing Brother! I love it! I had the x95l, B7 and the ended up with the B9. It has been the best TV I've ever owned and this is coming from a LG OLED owner.
So glad you're enjoying your 9.
I just bought he 85 inch Bravia 9 yesterday. Mounted it up. This blows my LG CX away especially in HDR. Way Better colors . More pop in small highlights. Major upgrade. Thank you
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thank you!!
Of all the things in my life i could get mad over… a tv or audio component review will not trigger me. Everybody chill
That's why I always look forward to your take; it never seems to come from a darker place. It is what it is, which makes it easy to engage and exchange thoughts and ideas. I really appreciate that about your presence in our community.
@ cheers! Happy to have content i enjoy viewing. Im not interested in arguing with folks. That part of my ego died long ago.
Haters gonna hate. For every comment, good or bad, there are 99 viewers who really enjoyed your video without feeling the need to comment/complain about something. There will always be a few folks piping up from the peanut gallery with complaints because they have nothing better to do.
You can start banning people who do not feel inclined to civil discourse. it’ll make the atmosphere much more pleasant for the rest of us. You’re under no obligation to provide a platform for the haters to share their views.
@@stevendoesburg6555 100% agree
LOL! I loved the review and loved you giving your opinion. I am someone who also owns multiple OLEDs and a couple mini led TVs. I did a blind TV test and picked the Bravia 9 at a show. Some people are so blindly loyal now a days that its strange. Most of these angry people haven't even seen one setup. At Best Buy for example, its on store mode which won't do it justice. We are so focused on what something is on paper(including speakers) instead of seeing or hearing something ourselves. This Bravia 9 is incredible. To my eyes, blacks are blacks but the brightness is very different to my eyes. Especially highlights. I don't see or notice blooming and that is easy for me to spot. Anyways great review and thanks for just being you and telling your opinion. There are times I may disagree with your opinions but I still enjoy hearing them. Thanks guys
I have to weigh in here, as someone who works with all TVs on a daily basis AND currently owns a 65A95L for most people's viewing habits the Bravia 9 is the better TV, brighter SDR, Brighter Cinema and Professional modes with minimal black crushing on the whole. The only reason I have the A95L is because in the UK the 65 Bravia 9 hasn't been released yet and I cannot fit a 75". All these TVs are amazing in their own right. Some people prefer OLED, some people prefer Mini LED, but what Sony has done with the B9 is truly magical.
Appreciate your take! It's a healthy outlook to have.
@@KristiWrightCheers mate😂👍
Thanks for the insight. You have the opposite size problem of A & K 😂
@@umrryan UK houses are mostly too small for these huge LEDs... Truly sad times😂
I tend to agree it’s controversial. I understand this is a business but if a reviewer lacks the courage to acknowledge that OLED is a superior technology it unfortunately will end up making viewers question everything about the reviewer. Sony didn’t go with led because it’s better. They went with it because it’s cheaper and higher margin. They can milk their good name for a few years and sell these much higher margin tvs based on reputation alone.
Happy Friday, everybody! I hope everyone has had some time to relax and spend time with family and friends. We appreciate you joining us!
Hey Kristiiii! How are you?
@@txerapng Having a great morning! We finally got our privacy wall painted (yeah)! It's sunny and blue skies. Can't complain. What about you?
@@KristiWright That’s great to hear! - Just finishing up some work!
Happy Thanksgiving.
@@ryanhemming9546 thank you!
Love the follow up! Thanks! After doing my own research and watching your video, we went out and got a Bravia 9.
Love Kristi’s reading of these comments 😂
Honestly, it's my favorite part of Unplugged. :)
It's so great! I think she enjoyed getting to read these aloud.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews It was like you were the defendant as she read the charges against you! 😆
Kristi, I loved the intro. "Well, you did it again." 😅
Thank you for including my poorly phrased question & answering it so well as usual… much appreciated! I have windows🪟 on either side 🪟of our ‘not so GREAT ROOM,’ so even though my wife (Christie with a C) and I close all the blinds when enjoying movie time, the image from our 📽️ is still completely blown out & lacking in contrast… hence the desire to upgrade to a not too reflective 🗯️TV. Also apologies for my screen name ‘snow in Okinawa’🇯🇵 which seems to trip everyone up due to lower cases + lack of spaces; it stems from a musical artist from 🍣Okinawa named ‘Ryukyu Underground.’🌊 They do a sort of electronica infused with a traditional Okinawan instrument named the Sanshin🪕 I saw them play live when I was living there. Their track ‘snow in Okinawa,’ is a tongue-in-cheek expression since the weather there never gets below 15°C 🏝️(59°F). Have a great weekend :) Nickolas🇦🇺
The Bravia 9 is the best TV this year bar none. It achieves nearly OLED blacks, doesn't suffer burn-in and gets far brighter than any OLED.
"nearly OLED blacks" means not OLED blacks.
@@pmesa7305 True but OLED TVs don't get nearly as bright and that's equally important.
I have a Bravia 9 in my life today - and I often have a hard time knowing if it's on or off when there is no signal. The blacks are crazy good!
Damn you Robinson for not feeding peoples pre-conceived notions. 😂😂 Some people have FOMO, but many more have MACO(mad about contradictory opinion). This goes for more than A/V reviews. Thanks for all your reviews.
I went from a 65 Sony A80J to 85 inch X90L and yes it’s “worse” but people must be way more sensitive than me. The picture quality at 85 is really fantastic and I have zero complaints. Is there sometimes blooming? Yes. Is it distracting and destroys what I’m watching? No. I took the time to dial in the custom settings and the effort pays off. If I side by side to oled I can clearly see a difference but it’s not the end of the world. When 80+ inch oled comes down in price I’m all in but for now I’ll enjoy saving $. Im personally more interested in enjoying what I’m watching over dissecting micro contrast and nuance of every single frame.
as a high ranking member of the ODF even I can admit OLED is not for every use case or for everyone, but it's the right TV for me and my room. The best TV is the one your eyeballs like, has the features you need, and fits in your budget :) ODF signing out!
Communicating _perception_ is a special kind of nightmare (I have two friends who will sit in the same room with me, listen to the same _____, and we _still_ have different experiences), which is why I always appreciate the extra dose of data you include in reviews... seems people ignore your final "remember, the only person..." tagline
How odd. I come here to hear what you guys think; not to argue with you. This stuff is subjective and I value your opininons as they're well informed. You've watched more TVs and listened to more speakers than I ever will -- and I thank you for doing so. :)
I watched your review on the Sony A95L and loved it. I didn’t give you any flak because I thought you did a fine and professional job. I bought the a95l and couldn’t be happier. I’m still amazed with its picture and performance but I’m not a gamer and will never be a gamer. I think the a95l is the best picture and color I’ve ever seen in my life. If I could afford two, I’d buy two but I have to eat, even though food looks better on my A95L.
“This TV is incredible!”
Audience: BOOOO!
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This is such a strange hobby at times. Keep up the great work for reasonable people like myself and I imagine much of your audience. Don’t let them ruffle your apple cart! 😝
hahaha. Appreciate you making it far enough to be blessed with that gem!
Some people get their feelings hurt lol
I have calibrated several A95L’s and Bravia 9’s. In fact I had both the Bravia 9 and A95 L literally side by side, while I was calibrating them.
Looking back at my records yes, confirmed the Bravia 9’s DE after calibration is lower at an average of 0.80 VS the A95L at 1.3.
However we all know there is very little perceptible difference in a DE under three. White Balance is definitely important but between these two displays the overwhelming difference is in the Color Volume and Gamut. When you see these displays side by side the A95L is just beautiful, colors pop and the Bravia 9 looks a bit flat by comparison.
The contrast of the displays is also noticeably different. The Micro Contrast of the A95L is as of yet peerless unless comparing directly to another OLED.
Now, do I love the Bravia 9? YES, Hell yes! Loved Andrew’s point. Guys, there is NO BEST TV. There is only the best TV for your environment and use case.
Why did I have the A95 and B9 side by side?? Because I sold them to a client for different locations within their home.
You guessed it, The A95L was their theater display and the Bravia 9 was their everyday Living Room Driver. Ambient room light during the day sealed the best option as the B9.
The Bravia 9 is literally the best QLED to have ever existed, it is gorgeous. Considering what it was designed to do and what SONY‘s goals were. It is an epic achievement. Is it as good as the A 95L in some ways? NO. However, I have seen content on the Bravia 9 and the A 95L mastered at 4000 NITS. Guys, content mastered at this level is coming, very soon and when comparing the B9 and the A95L, in this instance, the Bravia 9 was noticeably more lifelike.
There are so many variables to consider, it is literally the case that both televisions shine and will outdo each other given a certain set of circumstances and parameters. Both TVs are exceptional. Both are made by SONY. Well done.
Andrew, keep your chin up. Love your reviews and the nuance you attempt to deliver to the masses. sometimes a pill of truth doesn’t go down easy.
"When you see these displays side by side the A95L is just beautiful, colors pop and the Bravia 9 looks a bit flat by comparison."
- False. I've got an 85" Bravia 9 and a 77" A95L side-by-side, both professionally calibrated in a light controlled room. Bravia 9 looks phenomenal and holds its own against the A95L. Its HDR in particular pops more and the A95L looks to be lacking in comparison.
Andrew keep up the good work you are doing a great job
I appreciate it!
I’m still running a Panasonic Plasma lolol.
Great colour and helps heat my home during the winter months 😂
@@MrJasonfromcanada same here 😂
I've 2 OLED's and still a Panny Plasma . ;)
Only just got round to watching this episode of unplugged and so glad I did!
Got a couple of friends wanting to buy new TVs and I'm just going to direct them here to hear about all the in depth things you have raised.
Thank you 👍🏻
Your Videos are always good. As much as I love Sony, I just literally bought a 83” S90D at half the retail price. But I like how easy the Q990C and D just connect to it. Can’t wait to connect my PS5 to it. Game on. Keep up the good work
What a pleasant surprise to see my comment from the previous review video getting center stage. I love my Sony X95K mini LED and you won't believe this but I have over 12,000 hours on it. So yeah I need a durable tv with a great picture and Sony delivers.
Fantastic video! Really enjoyed it. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.
Hi Andrew & Kristi. Thanks for superb reviews. They have helped so much in making choices on buying my gear & has also saved me money by making the right choices. Keep up the good work. Have great Christmas from Alan in the UK.
Kristi's playful reading of comments and Andrew's sheepish reaction -- that's a hoot. It's a pleasure listening to both of you.. I've had the Bravia 9 for a few months now and my takeaway is that Sony has managed to get both the control of a Z9D and the power of a Z9K finally into one TV. Watching HDR content just puts a smile on my face with how natural the image looks (calibrated professional mode) Well done Sony!!
Loved your video on the Bravia 9. Keep up the good work Andrew & Kristie!
Thank you so much for all your work, I've learned so much from watching your videos, you're an amazing reviewer. When it comes to opinions on top end products, noone is the arbiter of truth.
You guys are freakin great!! Absolutely love watching your vids and put a lot of faith in your reviews. I own the 85 B9 and it's fantastic. I also like it better than OLED's as I'm just not an OLED fan. As far as the comments, people nowadays are only happy when they're mad. Stop worrying about them, you'll never be able to make them all happy and you shouldn't have to. Great vids guys. Keep doing what you do. All the best to both of ya!
It’s funny that everyone is comparing this tv to the A95L, when really the actual only competition for this tv because of the 80”+ size is the LG G4 since none of the other top end OLED’s are available in that size. Size is a quality in and of itself that the other top oleds from Sony lack. Which is why I bought the G4. But don’t worry, I’m not mad about this review. Keep up the good work
There was a lot of hand-wringing over the G4. I'm glad you are happy with it!
Correct.
I just wanter to add to the drama. I work at a best buy and have looked at all the top oled TV's in all their picture settings and the Bravia 9 is extremely competitive. I can see myself buying it over a s90d and even a G4 regardless of the room. At the end of the day personal preference trumps specs.
I feel like people that are making those comments at the beginning are the same people that are “very passionate” about their Dragons… I mean, chill out. When done right, even as an OLED fan and constant user myself, I’m happy with Sony making microLED their flagship. First, we haven’t had this quality of LED period so far from any brand. Two, it’s a cheaper technology compared to OLED and considering prices aren’t going down any time soon, it makes sense. Especially considering it already shows how much cheaper it is since they significantly lowered the flagship price compared to last year and QD-OLED panels.
My only single gripe with Sony, as I said before, is their reluctance to put in 4 2.1 HDMI ports. And they have no excuse for it at all aside for not wanting to offer competition foothold in the console market. They want you to own a PlayStation only. That’s annoying as hell. But also, knowing Sony, nothing will compare to their processing, image processing and backlight control, period. This one is no different. Also, have a friend who just bought it. It looks better in game mode than my G2 OLED. It just does, and those insanely bright spec highlights in HDR is just cherry on top. And I adore my G2. People need to relax and go enjoy their half baked Samsung cookie. Some like it half baked, some like it raw. Doesn’t mean either one is wrong. Unless you say Subway makes good cookies, cause if so, we can’t be friends. 😂
Great conversation guys as always! And I am still listening!
"Subway makes good cookies" 😂
We call Subway sandwiches "hate sandwiches" because by my old office we had a Subway restaurant and the staff there, I swear, assembled your order with pure spite in their heart. One guy, he was my favorite, because he would give you an ear-full about 💩 customers as he made your sandwich.
Subway doesn't even make sandwiches good, so are we cool? Hope you had a restful day yesterday!
@@KristiWright I did and yes, absolutely and totally agree lol! 😂
@@andrewrobinsonreviews oh I know. They shut down subway on a military base because of sanitary issues so bad, they had to tear down the building and build a new one lol
I feel you, Andrew. I haven’t been right about anything for the last 4-5years 😂
hah
Then why are you following him so closely?
@@alfredomavila7969 I think you've misread the OP's comment.
We need difference of opinions and Andrew's is one I value. Dont always agree but thats apart of being a well informed human.
So Andrew dont lose any sleep over the hate, but before you sleep peacefully, make sure you turn off that OLED, burn-in sucks - LOL
As someone that has actually lived with an lg c2 for 2 years, I think that there’s a word that’s missing that can really help out: context. Now the c2 is dimmer than the c4 by a bit, but in cinema mode… like it can get really really dark. I can live with it and I love my c2, where I live we don’t have Sony tvs, he’ll lg only sells the c and g series oleds here. But people miss the context of having such great local illumination in the new Sony as well as a lot more brightness in sdr and hdr. Sure, in a dark room the oleds are going to take the crown, but come on, basically no one does that. The context of both the environment and contrast differential within the tvs presentation is key and people really don’t understand or don’t want to hear it.
There's nothing premium in this life more than taking care of his parents and wife sharing your passion, please Andrew take care of Kristi's.
If you want a TV, that is very close to OLED without it’s problems buy the Sony Bravia 9 85 inches what Mr. Robinson is saying is true and he mentioned other reviewers that I watch to say the same thing the problem with you people that your feelings get hurt too easily it’s time to grow up
@BigT6544 i play a lot of games in hdr and the per pixel control is so important in a lot of scenes. Lots of starfields or tiny highlights like sparks or atmospheric effects that have bright spots that only use a pixel or so. Even the best mini led wouldn't be able to deliver in those scenes. For content you're just viewing mini led still rocks. Not to mention mini led tvs and monitors rely on a backlight algorithm that introduces input lag in games. Oleds are just superior in gaming which is where I spend most of my time in front of a screen.
@@veilmontTV I use an OLED for gaming. Payed 3k for a C2 OLED. Started noticing burn-in after about 6 months, it is terrible after a few years. I would never recommend someone buy an oled for gaming.
I just bought the 85 inch Bravia 9 several days ago. Mounted it up. This replaced my LG CX 77 inch and it blows it away. Way Better colors . More pop in HDR highlights. Brighter full field especially watching sports. Still love the CX as it has great contrast and still has slightly sharper image than the b9 in some scenes. Maybe I can sharpen up the details a little more after a few adjustments on the b9. But colors are way better. And HDR is on another level. Major upgrade.
How is the picture for sports, is it jittery or blocky while watching a player run, is there a vapor trail of a football in the air? Any sports insight is helpful as no one expands on how it looks. Thanks
Now imagine that modern top OLEDs - G4/S95D beat even B9 colors. CX is probably one of the dimmest OLEDs over past 6 generations
@@sthsth1272 no trails. No blocky artifacts in motion. I set the motion to clearness 2. It helps a lot with motion resolution. The screen stays full field bright and colorful and doesn’t dim down like my CX oled over a short period of time. I just got the tv so I will have a better comparison in the next few days especially after watching more football and basketball. The reality creation works great in enhancing details also and keeps the image in motion very sharp
@ I would definitely get a QD Oled if they had sizes larger than 80 inches, but they don’t. And I would never get another woled again. 77 is a little too small for my current room. This was my best option for my needs and usage for my current situation with bright daylight viewing and sports. Thanks.
@sthsth1272 I covered that in the full B9 review (link is noted in the description).
Following from Nigeria.
Hope you both had a good Thanksgiving.
Very cool! So great to have you.
Happy Black Friday Kristi and Andrew 😊
Ah, happy consumerism day to you as well! :)
Thanks!
I own OLED and miniLED. They're both great. The OLED cult is real and the confirmation bias is crazy.
Appreciate your in video response from my previous comment. The TCL QM8 is a television I've tried to compare from your previous videos, it doesn't appear to be available in Australia though. The flagship 98" TCL television to my knowledge here is the TCL 98C855. From a specification point of view it doesn't appear to be comparable to the QM8, but it is at a similar price point to the X90L. There's a level of flexibility in seating position for my setup, so I'll weigh that up before discounting the Bravia 9 on size limitations, 9.5ft is THX recommended based on your shared calculator and may well be viable. My other hesitation with TCL is the numerous issues I've had with multiple TCL TV's with regard to integration and consistent functional operation. I've always found Sony TV's to be consistently reliable with their integration with other hardware, which in addition to their overall quality tends to make me somewhat brandest.
Just enjoy your tv 😃
Always!
Team Bravia 9 🔥🤩
ignore the triggered fanboys. You do an Amazing job with your reviews. Don't take trolls seriously. Most of them can't do any critical thinking. Another review convinced them to buy something, and now they need to validate themselves by bashing your reviews.
Two great phrases from a co-worker of mine. "You can't beat that with a dead horse" and "We'll cross that bridge underwater"
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I still have my 55” Panasonic VT60 and it’s still the best TV ever and I’m not listening lalalalalalalalala!
I recently found your channel and have watched many posts/videos and soon after became a member. Your insights and content is amazing. Thank you for your channel and the advice. Love it!
I really appreciate your support, glad you're enjoying the channel!
As always, thanks for your honest opinion and expertise!
I always say, get the TV that YOU like the best.
Ad long as you are happy with it, your good to go!
Keep up the good work!!
Man, I love these reviews! I am curious. Was your love of this TV right from the very on set? Or did it happen gradually after you performed calibration? Keep up the great work. You and Kristi are so entertaining to watch. All the best.
Even Rtings gets complains all the time for how their measurements doesn’t reflects user’s experience and sometimes they even have to retest the products as well either cuz users comments or the brands reaching out asking them to retest. If people find some reviews doesn’t match with their experience, how hard it is just to ask “hey, I have this product and it doesn’t do that, I’m curious of how you come up with your conclusion” or something like that?
Most of the measurements are bunk tbh. Too many people put emphasis in arbitrary numbers that don't reflect real world experience.
Andrew can you stop being so wrong and angering people? I think that’d be best for everyone
HAHAH.
About the blooming discussion.. I have a small cataract in my right eye and I get some "blooming" with every screen I look at .. even the OLED monitor on my desk. Getting older sucks, but being older also means that I was one of those PLAMSA guys. I still have my Panasonic ST60 (in my bedroom) and I still love it - all these years later.
Flexibility is a huge plus. Many Thanks for the review and explanation
Happy Thanksgiving A&K. The Unplugged Big 3-0! Great discussion for anybody in the market for a new TV. Lots of important buyer consideration topics covered. Enjoy the weekend. Looking forward to Sunday.
I have the Sony A90J, I bought it about 3 years ago, and I think it's pretty good especially in a dark setting. The detail really stands out, so I am okay with the picture not being as bright. But I am open to trying a QLED the next time I purchase in a few years because you are limited to screen size with an OLED. By then, there may be even less blooming and less issues with television angles on the QLED.
A90J is an excellent TV.
I was kind of proud of myself for not coming out with pitchforks for the ODT.
I still love my LG C1 65" OLED but have decided to only defend against people making false statements about burn-in. It's OK to like mini LED.
controversy! intrigue! LOL. Happy friday people
How's it going, Max?
@@KristiWright pretty good. Working, but its a chill day.
I commonly refer to OLED as today’s plasma. Plasma the best then, OLED the best now. For the discerning consumer eye. But of course, IMHO.
There can be only 1. Lol
I am still rocking an A80J, and it still looks great to me. And it replaced my 930D, which was a great tv for its time. As an AV installer, I've seen all tv's and agree with Andrew about the Brava 9.
Sometimes you need an indepedent opinion:
When we had our plasma, I warned my wife about the off-axis picture. She said, "Ok, I won't sit there."
When I told my eye doctor I was having trouble reading the leader board on races, he said "Get a bigger TV and sit closer."
Sony XR7593L: Viola - problems solved!
Hi Andrew! Thanks for a very good youtube channel. I really appreciate that you are an audiophile with both feet on the ground. Appropriately geeky and very relevant. Have you thought about doing a clean review on party speakers? Eg Soundbooks, JBL etc. It feels like you are the right person to do it. You have an ability to value products based on their usage recommendations and customer group.
Great in-depth analysis and information that we all need Thanks 😊
HdtvTest didnt use the bravia 9 for their blind shootout, he said even if they used Bravia 9 he dont think Sony will fare any better, preferring to put last years sony OLED flagship vs today's Oled. But its pretty clear why The bravia 9 isnt there, simply because having a Mini LED among OLED will single out the sony tv alone, thus rather than having everyone's bias pollute the vote they rather put some people's question of "how will last year winner fare against bew offering" and gige the answer.
This was fun. Thanks for making this one.
Stepping back always remember that tech can be a religious topic for your audiences. Look at how people fight over EVs versus internal combustion cars. I didnt think your video was controversial at all but I am not a TV expert. I am still rocking my 75 inch sony x900h LED tv that is four years old. Keep up the great content!
The Bravia 9 was made for one type of market. That market is 4K HD on streaming services. With more movies are on streaming services and with more people watching 4K HD on streaming services Sony wanted a TV that can show these streaming movies at their best. Sony studio also makes movies.
So the Bravia 9 being a miniled TV panel can really pulls this off watching movies on streaming services. It's why it got the higher number over the oled B 8.
So would the 9 do better streaming than say the LG C4 or G4 or would those two do as good or better and be able to flex up when asked of it?
We mainly use plex , UA-cam tv in 4k and apps such as Disney
@bradshumate783 When the Bravia 9 came out then Sony Rep Rob Brennan talked about it on Brian's Tech Therapy channel. It's not oled versus Miniled competition. It is meant for the best use case for streaming movies. You can search for Rob Brennan. He did like 5 interviews. Sony engineers are the ones that assign model names. The Sony Bravia 8 is an LG Display WOled panel. So it compares to the C4.
I think what threw viewers off about your opinion on the B9 being superior to all OLEDs is the results of the 2024 Value Electronics shootoff, as well as the opinions of other UA-cam content creators such as Stop the FOMO, Brian from Tech Therapy, Tech with KG, QuantumTV, and RTngs, with regards to which technology is superior. While most also acknowledge the beauty and brightness and sound quality of the B9, they are quick to acknowledge OLED will always have better contrast due to pixel-level dimming control in the millions, hence the term “infinite contrast ratio”, vs the best mini leds having a contrast ratio in the hundreds of thousands:1, with dimming zones in the thousands, but not in the millions, such as it would be on a pixel level. That said, I purchased a 2024 TCL QM851g earlier this year based on some reviews I’d seen and I’ve been satisfied with my purchase so far, as far as quality to cost ratio is concerned. They also all grossly overstate the off angle viewing losing contrast. I can stand at almost 180 degrees to my screen and barely notice a difference worth noting. Blues are still blue, etc.
Im still with my Sony 4K LED TV 4 years now, and i'm happy with it. Great and accured colors, not the black of an oled, but im happy!
SONY isn't here in brazil anymore, so no more sony tvs for me, but i loved your review and understand you.
Changing seating distance isn't the only factor to immersion. It's the size of the images and scene on the TV that get larger also and that doesn't change with seating distance, just your peripheral view is filled more as you get closer. You can't tell me that watching a 48" TV at 3' is better than watching a movie on an 85" TV at 10'. To get that true home theater experience, you need a large TV, just like a theater, a large screen, seated far away. You can hold an ipad right in front of your face, but it isn't the same experience as watching a truly large screen, even from a far distance. All seating distance takes into account, is field of vision, there is more to immersion and feeling than that.
There's a lot going on in this comment. Of course, if you sit closer, the size of the images on the screen will look larger than if you are sitting farther away. Even a well-designed commercial theater takes seating distances and viewing angles into consideration.
@@KristiWright The size of the object doesn't get larger though, if you sit close, it just may look bigger. It is more true to life size on a bigger TV and your brain knows the size it is, even from a distance. There is a very different feel watching a movie on an 85" TV and a 55" or even 65" TV at any distance. You can't get a big screen feel, from a smaller TV. You can improve the feel, but it's not the same experience. Try sitting closer to a 55" TV and then watch a 77"+ TV from any distance and tell me it's not a more cinematic experience on the larger TV. There is way more to a cinematic feel and immersion, than field of vision.
@@micker9830 ok
Large Sony mid range for the win until streaming gets better and keeps up with the specs. My X90L is performing amazing where friends with OLED and other brands are dumb founded
Hahaha. As a member of the QDODF I haven't seen any Mini LED that can compete. Curious to see the B9 as well as those giant Hisense and TCL high end models. But for me (I enjoy sci fi) micro contrast is important. Very important. And I couldn't be happier with my S95C. But it is simply a matter of priorities.
Yeah but those Kuros and late Panasonics were awesome. But... I don't know about OLED going away. With notebooks they are now everywhere, despite costing a premium and being kind of a dumb idea, as they consume more power, burn in, ... There are still some improvements coming to big OLEDs, ink jet printing will finally be a thing (TCL seems to ramp up manufacturing?), etc. I wouldn't bet on either side, and while OLEDs get cheaper in manufacturing, producing a really good Mini LED is expensive and complicated. It needs expensive processing and everything.
You know what I love most about the Samsung...DTS and dolby vision. Oh wait...
@@wojtek-33 My S95C does DV. And DTS. The Apple TV decodes to 7.1 PCM and turns the DV to HDR10 (according to Dolby specs). Since the TV hits 1000 nits easily anyway, there's little need for DV apart from compatibility.
@kadajawi2 apple TV PCM doesn't do height channels. No Samsung TV does dolby vision. DV is not a compatibility thing, it's a superior HDR thing and hdr10+ content is pretty limited. Regular HDR is available on every TV because it's the bare minimum.
Bravia 9 is the best tv ATM. No question about that. Minni led wins over Oled. Watched your full review and it's clear as day.
Just use your eyes OLED tvs are amazing but Sony took minni led tvs to another level.
Eat it OLED fanboys!!!
That's a classic funny opening 😂 ❤ more like that makes for an interesting Show
After months of going back and forth between the A95L and the G4, I decided on the 77” A95L. I didn’t consider the S95D! The A95L is very bright, up scaling is outstanding! Picture quality is excellent! Build quality can’t be matched! The A95L is a very expensive TV, and I understand not everyone can afford it, but if you can just buy the DAMN thing!
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Andrew this is happening in every single space!! So many people comment on a video and they don’t even watch the dang video. They just comment off of a thumbnail or just comment their opinion on the topic and move along. The human race is getting very weird lately. Everyone is aggressive against any and everything that doesn’t fit their belief or opinion. A bunch of closed minds.
I believe, all the flagship TVs are great and cannot be distinguish by a big margin when it comes to picture quality. So, I always suggest my customers to choose a TV based on 3 things.
1- Picture Processing.
2- Sound (Because most of them don’t use or want Soundbars or Audio Systems)
3- The operating systems.
Hopefully Robinson doesn't let the crazy comments get to him too much. I have a now ancient Lg B8 oled that still looks great and one greatly enjoy looking at. That doesn't blind me to see that newer TVs will be better, both oled and mini/microled.
I just purchased a 77” A95L. The picture quality is breathtaking, up scaling is amazing, contrast/resolution pulls you in to what ever you’re watching. A bright picture doesn’t equate to a better picture quality! That’s the problem that Samsung has with its tv’s.
I agree with you but I had a Sony a80k . I hated it too dim. Way too dim . and as for HDR impact it virtually did not exist.
Interesting. Have had 65" S90D and U8N next to each other for the past week. U8N wins, mostly b/c I find the S90D to make things look too blue/green in general. I suppose I could hire a calibrator to fix that, but the U8N with the rtings 2 point settings looks great. Snow on the s90D looks like it has a turquoise mist on it. This is without calibration. S90D going back to the store.
Geez. TV debates are getting as bad as politics. Get the TV that best fits your use case/budget/needs. I’m team QD-OLED, but the Bravia 9 is a stunner. Great to see Sony roaring back and improving their LCD models. 85X95K and 85X95L were very good, but this is big step up. People need to get out of their feelings.
I can completely relate about getting the "sayings" wrong, my wife does the same thing! Like it raining dogs & cats, it's down & up, are we going to eat over lefts? Cracks me up!
Doesn’t the enormous spectrum glare that goes across the entire screen bother you??? That was too distracting to me and in the end we went with the 83” LG G4. Best tv I’ve ever seen!
OLED glass is still reflective in a bright room so I'm not sure how much better off you'd be, unless that OLED is able to compensate with brightness. We'd love to test the G4 and I did request it again this week but I'm not holding my breath. Glad you are happy though!
@@KristiWrightIt has reflective glass, like all OLED’s, but in my opinion that’s different from the distracting spectrum of light that streaks across the entire screen. It’s actually really bad. If it wasn’t for that, the B9 is a really nice tv. But that was a deal breaker.
Great intro to the video 😂 I attended a Sony training and felt well brainwashed to agree with your review (but would still be happy to have my good ol’ OLED). I’m curious how you would view the X8 since it’s their best mini available in a 55”
Good afternoon, Andrew & Kristi. It might be my generation or education but I believe that Andrew's presentation and comments are "thought-provoking" and not controversial. I say this because the use of the word "controversial" is more of a click bait marker than anything else. Andrew states his case clearly and shows his thought processes that go unnoticed when individuals don't listen and hear him out. I have an extremely low tolerance of Pre-Meditated Stupidity and avoid people who engage in its use. Keep up the good work, Kristi and Andrew! I appreciate your hard work and high ethical standards and logical thought processes.
totally off topic question, but do you think samsung will ever release a frame with better specs, maybe even mini led or is the overlap of customers who want the frame form factor and who are also hifi and av geeks is just too small?
If the TV can deal with your room lighting situation and handles motion well. You're done ! Avoid the tech snake (the one that's biting it's tail). Andrew calls em as he sees them and that's fine by me. 🙂
I just don’t buy the seating recommendations to picture size. I was at a relatives house yesterday and they have a 85” tv and it looked huge and I was sitting about 12 feet. When roaming around in the house closer to 16 to 18 feet it still looked good. Sure I’m sure anyone’s brain could re-adjust to a larger size but 98” seems ridiculous for an average room. I’m sitting right now in front of a 65” at 8’ and the set looks very pleasing to my eyes. But whatever floats your boat.
Not being critical as I enjoy your videos.
Picked up a 65” LG G4 at a deep discount but if the 65” Bravia was available I might have thought about it. Going forward brightness will be more and more of a factor as directors etc get use to the idea especially for 4k blurays.
LG! Give them a 83 G4 for review!! Please 🥳🤩
Yah!
Yeah, LG, let's go!
They could always give them a 97" G4 for review but they might have to pry it out of their hands to get it back.
@@paulc5389 I'm sure they'll pop this $20,000 TV right in the mail. amzn.to/4i1WQrT
LOL
@ Either way, a G4 review would be awesome. No MLA on the 97 though 😱.
The last three minuts where you talk about the metafors was so worth seeing it to the end 🤣🤣🤣
Nobody beats my LG C9 (part of the OLED defence force 😂). Lol, im praying Santa or anyone will just bless me with a 77 or 83 inch variant down the line in the future.
I'm judging you with my E9. I'm a whole 2 letters better than you 💪
This review was like a bowl in a china cabinet. It really ruffled a lot of apple baskets.