Radeon RX 5700 XT vs. 7700 XT, 2024 Revisit
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00:00 - Welcome to Hardware Unboxed
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01:36 - 5700XT Revisit in 2024
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03:21 - Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty
03:47 - Dying Light 2
04:14 - Forza Horizon 5
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06:16 - The Last of Us Part I
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Radeon RX 5700 XT vs. 7700 XT, 2024 Revisit
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Please note there is a mistake with the RX 6600 results in CP2077, will fix for future content.
my 5700xt crashes constantly on any recent driver.
14:46 Because Msi after burner..Close Afterburner :) Frame generation will work :)
and 2070 too?
noticed that and was initially confused xD thanks for the video Steve and congrats on hitting 1 million
@@inGameweTrusted upscaling or frame gen?
Had the 5700xt for a few years. upgraded to the 7900xt during black Friday. Gave my brother in law the 5700xt to retire his gtx 1060. What an upgrade for both of us
Dang no kidding!
That sounds like a nice boost!
Exactly the same story here except my 5700XT replaced my girlfriend's 970. Finally got into high-refresh 1440p with the 7900XT, but for someone who's still on a 1080p/60Hz display the 5700XT is holding up beautifully.
loved this comment
I had an RX 580 4GB, upgraded to 5700XT, double the performancr, double the vram, than 6800XT, almost double the performwnce double the vram, than 7900XTX almost double the performance, 50% more vram.
I think 50% more performance at least is a good upgrade, double ideal.
AMD really made two lengendary PC Gaming parts: Ryzen 5 3600 & Radeon RX 5700 XT
Same with the rx 6600 non-xt, rx 6700 xt, rx 6800 non-xt. All of them are instant classics.
And in fact it’s roughly how PS5 performance (the console is better by a small margin). It’s the sweet spot.
I think you forgot the 5800X3D here.
@@raceowl was about to mention that, 3600 is nowhere near as legendary as 5800x3D
@@raceowl 3600 being a budget beast while 5800x3d was expensive at launch
The card was awesome I just upgraded to the 7800xt the 5700 xt still handle most things.
Bruh am eyeing the 7800XT for next upgrade (rockin' RX 6600 atm in family PC).
670$ CDN atm, if it comes down to 600$ someday will be hard not to pull the trigger lol
@@mukkah I got the gigabyte 7800 xt for around 540 here in the uk and changed my 3700x to the 5800x 3d no need to upgrade to am5 at the moment awesome card.
@@lukevirtualgameruk3523 yeye man, still got a 5600 cpu, somewhere down the road 5800X3D for sure ^^
540 in UK is great price, my dude!
@@mukkah I agree you can get the 7900 gre for around 550 so probably why.
@@mukkah prices should come down more when new generation mid-range cards are released, if not a little before then, which will be in less than a year for sure. Prices usually do come down a fair bit around Black Friday if not a few weeks before.
Seeing those benchmarks, I think I'm going to hold on to my 5700 XT until RDNA 4.
Yeah I feel the same way, will be close to double the performance then and that will feel like a worthwhile upgrade
Same, I'm playing older games or not demanding recents games like Persona 3 Reload.
And it's not like recents AAA games like Suicide Squad, Avatar or Skull & Bones (sorry it's AAAA), makes me want to upgrade pretty soon. I can wait until RDNA 4.
at this point you might as well.... seeing these benchmarks or not... clearly over a year of this generation's existence hasn't convinced you yet.
@@hundrds1283 same. But priorities may mean it may be till the used market brings those prices down.
yep me also, the 5700xt at 1440p/60hz is still really capable in every game I play, the driver improvements have boosted the cards performance a LOT over the years. I bought an ASUS reference design for US$379 , along with a Full cover GPU Bykski water block for about $60 off aliexpress ....zero regrets , this card has been FANTASTIC, it also benefitted a lot from the 5900x CPU upgrade from the original 3700x i had. Couldnt be happier with the thing,,,when i do eventually replace it ill still keep it in use on another system. Its extremely solid
Another note, Helldivers 2 doesn't use FSR. It has it's own built-in upscaler that is significantly worse than fsr, dlss, or xess.
That's true. I use RSR (internally it uses some version of FSR) with this game instead of the built-in upscaler and it looks much better and also it runs with higher fps. I recommend this approach for all AMD users instead of the native upscaler until they add true FSR.
Yeah, running native looks much better. But the game isn't all that heavy for newer GPUs so no reason to run limp home mode.
@@christian50111wtf is RSR?
@@TheSometimeAfteramd radeon super resolution. It's an amd driver based upscaler, can be used in any game, though I think it's not as good as fsr upscaling
@@TheSometimeAfter Radeon Super Resolution (RSR) is an in-driver upscaling feature that uses the same algorithm found in AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) technology. Gamers can take advantage of Radeon Super Resolution technology to unleash new levels of performance on any compatible game.
AMD words.
It's basiclly driver level FSR1. Similar to how AFMF is driver level Frame Generation. Not perfect, but not particularly bad either.
Lets not forget that many original 5700xt owners upgraded to a 6700xt for free in the crypto mining boom.
5700xt was a beast mining card that meant it's street price in the crazy days was the same as 6700xt.
When people were paying over a grand for a 3070, I essentially picked up a 6700xt to no extra cost from my original £400 5700xt.
This is what truely cements the 5700xt as legendary status imo
RIP, sold to the mines!
It was the business of the decade for me. After 2 years of using I sold the 5700XT for more than i bought,yet had to pay about 140 $ more for the 6700XT. 2 weeks after the market chrashed.
I mined ETH while I had it, made about 0.38 (1135 USDish right now), sold it towards the end of the boom and bought a new 6700xt for a bit less. It truly was a great card.
@Radirkacsa1 yeah sold mine for 900euros, added 300 more and got a rtx3080
6800XT was the swap...5700xt was about $1000 usd at peak prices and purchased for $379
Proud five year 5700xt owner here. Still holding out for an actual upgrade that won't cost me $1000+ Hope RDNA4 is the ticket.
Look into a grabbing a 6800 XT, you can often find them for just over $400. In late 2023 I bought a Liquid Devil 6800 XT $416 ($459 after shipping), and with the ETH my 5700 XT mined, and the $180 I sold it for, for roughly $70 out of pocket I have a card that is often over 100% faster.
@@K31TH3R I appreciate the recommendation but after waiting so long I'm looking for something that will blow my current GPU performance out of the water. Everything in my current system has been refreshed in the last 6 months except for the GPU. Rocking a 7800x3D has given my current GPU just a bit more runway to wait for RDNA4.
@@MrZuriax the 6800xt is double the performance of a 5700xt, how much more blown out of the water do you want it to be lmao. Even the 7700xt is 70 percent faster than what you have. Cant wait forever.......
@@thefilmdirector1 depend on how much the the guy need it and how long he plan to keep it.. afaik they don`t provide good driver support forever. personally as of now, having a 5700xt ill wait for 8800xt. real world tests will decide
You forgot to mention the Used market... 5700XT can often be found for under $100 USD. Even a few remanufactured aliexpress flash sales dip below $100 now.
Got a 5700XT running on my wife's computer. Great card. She uses it mostly for CAD. Well worth the money spent.
I bought a 5700 just before the coof, and i got a specific version of the card, the powercolor red dragon! the reason was because that specific model of the 5700 had the EXACT same pcb as the 5700xt, down to the same ammount of power phases. I immediately flashed the performance bios to the 5700xt bios. And that's how i got a super cheap 5700xt that i'm still rocking to this day. zero crashes, zero instability, auto overclocks to 2074mhz core clock via the adrenalin software. Since I barely play any AAA games, I am still playing everything at high settings with very high framerates. One of the last games I 100%'d was Forza Horizon 4. Medium settings at 1440p while streaming, 144 fps locked. Maybe I'll buy an upgrade on the next gen from AMD. depending on how good the 8700xt is or something.
thats super interesting, would have thought there would have been differences between them
@@itsyaboikirbo normally that's the case but this was the exception, the only difference between the cards was the bios. Which explains why my card has had 0 crashes in 5 years with the bios flash.
Bruh this was an awesome comment lol
Nice job riggin' that 5700 into an XT, man did his dang research thorough for this purchase XD
Really helps to make smart moves as a consumer these days ^_^
~a random canadian subscriber dude
Got the 5700 XT red dragon as well, it was really performant for a 2 slot card. Only messed with the memory timings.
I’m waiting for the 8700xt as well, hopefully it hits around the Rx 7900gre in performance, would be a nice upgrade, as long as it doesn’t use more then 220 watts as well
I still remember when that GPU was released, man time really flies ✈
I would rather have the RX 6800 non-XT than the 7700 XT. I think its cheaper, 16 GB and about the same power usage . Thank you for the revisit Steve .💯
In most countries it's pretty hard to find an rx 6800. In Brazil I can only find used ones
6800/6800 xt is basically gone from the store shelves so there are not many options.
@@leonardo.muricy I upgraded from rx460 to used rx580 and then to used rx6800 and never had a problem.
A new 6800 was still $400+ when I last checked about a month ago and that's if you can find it.
I'd still get the 7700XT as it is more efficient and has a better encoder like AV1
My 5700XT Nitro + lasted me quite a bit. It had a rough begining but it really aged well.
I've upgraded it for 7800XT Nitro+ last September (which I don't regret), but it was still holding up quite a bit. Really great card
Sapphire nitro IS the best version, still have my 6900xt nitro+, amazing card for the price
@@manuelhernandez2017 Not for the 5700 XT. XFX made the best version, with the THICC III Ultra. Nitro+ was a close second though.
I just bought my 7700xt hellhound for 400. What a deal. The fans almost never spin.
Really enjoyed this one, especially the gameplay bit. Variety of resolutions, quality settings and upscaling/FG to get the best out of the card, great work. Interesting, entertaining, great production, probably my fave HUB video this year
Congratulations on 1m subs
Yeah I've been watching HUB for about 4 years back when they had maybe 400k-500k. They hit the million mark back in January I think.
Great! Let’s see how it stacks up! Thank you for all your hard work and fantastic testing!
I got a reference 5700XT shortly after launch. I upgraded to a 7800XT mostly for ray tracing. It was still performing perfectly fine for 1080p, and with the GN washer mod + good thermal paste it was running relatively cool and quiet. Very good value card.
In my personal repair experience, I had a multitude of 5700XTs come through my shop with paste that was bone dry on CERTAIN board partner cards. AMD had a multitude of growing pains with that card, and the fact the hotspot hit 110C frequently did not help their sales originally. While it had an incredible amount of power, it handled it with their cooling solutions poorly much of the time with a 250 ish watt TDP
I got the 5700 XT back in late 2019, just a few months before the crypto boom that started in 2020. I kept it until last year when I picked up the 7900XT. I got it for $720 around July. I saw it drop to that point a few months prior, but I didn't have the spare cash at the time. I kept an eye on it so that the next time it was well under $800 I jumped on it. So I ran that card about three and a half years. Not a super long life, but considering I spend $420 on it when the 2070 non super was going for $500 and up, I think I did alright. I also did just enough mining to pay for the card and cover my power bill in the winter. Basically just ran it to help keep my apartment warm but also kinda pay for itself for the winters of '20 and '21.
I gave that card and my 3800X to a friend that never got into PC gaming. :)
Thanks for all those benchmarks!
Great video but curious what driver version was used on the Intel Arc cards because the 2 most recent drivers made huge jumps in many titles. Thanks
The thumbnail makes it look like somebody is holding his family hostage lol
I run 3600 / 5700xt combo with the AOC24G2.
Hell I’ll probably keep them a couple more years. Honestly they’re beyond sufficient for 1080p gaming today.
Jogos mais Novos estão uma Merda ...
Nice video. Its nice to have a 'positive' video. Looking forward to the next few vids :)
As someone who waits multiple generations to upgrade parts, I really like seeing a video like this.
still using mine, it's the blower version, it's starting to show its age so will be looking to upgrade very soon and I've had to re-paste a couple times, but otherwise it's been a fantastic card. Any recommendations on an upgrade path? - I play mainly on 1440p display, and tend to stay away from most FPS type titles and quite happy locking to 60fps for the most part
Have saphire pulse still 5y going strong for about 350euros at the time
Think ill stay with it for a bit more maybe somethinf like 7800xt or 7900gre
At the time baseline 2070 was 130euros more glad i chose right
I have nitro version and its still runs great. Has been a fantastic card.
What a coincidence! I think my 5700XT may be starting to die (weird things keep randomly happening with the screen resolution sometimes), so I was preparing myself to buy a replacement and was just thinking about this all last night.
Really awesome to see that I made a pretty good choice when I bought it, and incredibly helpful to see what my upgrade options look like in comparison to what I have now! Thank you!
It might not be seated properly in the pcie port or the problem might be your display cable.
Undervolt it, that might help with stability..
I was literally just checking the channel out to see if there was a new vid that hadn't popped up on my feed, and there it was! :)
A very interesting revisit. I have two systems, one with a 6700XT and the other with a 6800... looking at the graphs left me feeling pretty good about the remaining usefulness of those two GPUs for the future, especially since I don't give a rip about RT and I don't stream.
My buddy still has his running and it is doing really well with FSR @1440p. No rush to upgrade at the moment. He wants to keep it going for at least another year and then....well we`ll see what prices are like then, but a good 1440p card will be needed.
Raytracing is still snake oil.
Speak for yourself. Ray tracing when done right is fantastic
Beaut of a vid Steve, good to see the rasterisation of this gpu going strong. Awesome value!
I'm currently using a Midspec AM4. better upgrade to a highspec am4 or lowspec am5?
I've always upgraded the GPU when you can get double the performance at the same price. Sadly 5 years later we arent there due to stagnation in the GPU market.
I will definitely wait for the next generation, the 5700XT with OC and undervolt still works awesome for almost all games even at 1440p, you always can upgrade for the fun of upgrading but it doesnt look like a real need for gaming.
You could justify a 7800 xt with inflation and added value tho. 16 gigs and 4070+ performance
@@TheUltraMinebox Exactly why I upgrade to a 7900gre when my 5700XT bit the dust a few weeks back. *technically* it's like 30% more expensive than what I paid for the 5700XT back in 2019, but that 30% price hike is still lower than that of my grocery list compared to back then as well.
A 7800XT or 7900GRE are now well worth the upgrade, *if* you need it. I would have kept my 5700XT for a while yet, as FSR got "good enough" to be worth the visual hit, and I was perfectly fine with getting 80-100FPS in most non-competitive games, or even around 60 if they didn't require any rapid inputs.
Hopefully I can get 5 years out of the 7900GRE. We'll see if it gets the same performance bump with time that the 5700XT got since launch.
It's not stagnation. The 7700XT is a proper uplift over the 6700XT with 54 CUs vs. 40CUs. The 6700XT is a bit better than the 5700XT with the same amount of CUs but the biggest difference is the extra VRAM (12GB vs 8GB). You can't expect a 100% performance increase until 3 generations later. Tim did a whole video on GPUs and price to performance and what average consumers expect before upgrading. 30% increase after 1 gen, 50% increase after 2 gens and 100% price to performance increase after 3 generations and this was based on Hardware Unboxed polls. The 7700XT gives you over 60% improvement in 2 generations which is great at the midrange where performance isn't pushed as hard the high end. Either way, it's only 4.5 years since the 5700XT was released and RDNA 4 isn't out yet. Around the 5 year mark we should have an 8700XT that gives you that double performance. The 5700XT was never really supposed to be $400 (I think AMD was gonna make it $499 until Nvidia announced the Super series with lower prices) and I'm not 100% sure how much the assumed 8700XT will cost but I still expect it to be $450-$500. If it has the performance increase and 16GB of VRAM I might get it to upgrade my placeholder 6700XT. If it is the top die for RDNA 4 (which is rumored to be similar to RDNA 1 meaning no high end GPUs) than it might have an even bigger performance increase if AMD hits their targets.
Techncially, if you bought it for 400 in 2019, then now that would be $488 in 2024. So the cost of a 7800XT
7800xt...at what power cost. I want double the speed without a huge power increase. I used a 7800 for a week and decided I'll stick with the 5700xt until a proper replacement comes along.
Nice video. still rocking my 5700xt. Video card market prices are still junk, I am going to wait
Eu Tmb tenho Rx 5700 e considero ela Boa ...
I loved the gameplay analysis portion. Definitely continue to do this for older cards
Great content! Thank you.
Had my rx5700xt for almost 5 years now. (Thanks Steve for finally giving it some love) Was my first AMD card and I don't think I can go back to Nvidia now. He brings up a good point though... is it worth upgrading to a new card when the rx5700xt runs most things at 60fps or above. I think I need more reason to upgrade than just an extra 30 fps I'm not going to notice. The only compelling game I have to make me want to upgrade is Alan Wake 2. (Looks nervously over at FF7 Rebirths PC release schedule...)
You double your fps in pretty much every game, the charts in the video show this, and yes it makes a world of difference when you are on a high refresh panel. You also get RT, and its not wimpy at RT either, im talking 60 fps RT on high settings in Witcher 3 and 2077.
@@thefilmdirector1 I went from a 6700XT to an XTX, but stayed on 1440p monitors, because I figured I wanted to start playing with RT... Uh... what a disappointment. The only game I own where I'm really impressed is Cyberpunk. Sure, most UE5 games look better with global illumination, but nothing earth shattering, so I can certainly appreciate why many refuse to pay "the RT tax".
I wanted to comment about the statement at the end about Alan Wake 2 and mesh shading. They recently fixed the non mesh shading fallback path. Had they not taken the time to do that the 5700xt's performance would've been in the teen's for fps like it was at release.
NOpe ! IM still playing the launch version of alan wake 2 on a 5700xt and it runs just fine. over 30 fps all the time. mostly around 40-50 fps range. CPU is xeon 2699v3 and 96gb ram. it runs smooth.
@@attilagrasl I just upgraded to the ryzen 7600 from a turbo unlocked dual 2699v3, its so much faster, I was getting bad stutters at the start of fortnite with the xeon but its all smooth with the 7600. The xeons have been repurposed into a AI training rig with a pair of Tesla P40 GPUs.
@@geofrancis2001 who cares nobody playes fortnite, im talkin bout alan wake 2. btw you was getting stutters because you clearly just didnt have enough ram. lame.
@@attilagrasl lol its a dual 2699v3 with 128gb of ddr4. All core turbo unlocked to 3.6ghz It just lacks single threaded performance so struggles with modern games. My 6 core 7600 is over twice as fast single threaded and almost matches a single 18 core on multithread
I got my 5700XT in late 2020 and I'm probably a year or two away from an upgrade (I usually try to go 5-6 years between upgrades). This was just the info I was looking for :) Great review, Steve! Exactly the kind of to the point, no BS info I've come to know and love from HU.
Cracking job there. Well done.
With regards to testing older GPUs, the 1080 Ti has been done elsewhere so don't bother with it; rather, I'd like you to look at the previous generation, the Maxwell Titan, (and not the 980 Ti) because of the extra VRAM (12 GB vs 6 GB). Theoretically it should still be around the level of the RTX 3050 / RX 6600 / A750 - not bad for a nine year old card if it's correct. But is it? We eagerly await your results.
Literally how I'm planning to survive with my rx 7900 gre .. skipping this coming generation
Same! Which model of gre you have? I have pure and it’s a beast in performance and looks.
@@perceptixn power colour hellhound
I pimp the hellhound gre, fantastic card for sure.@@mawandaeed
I build my current first fully AMD setup since early 2000's in 2019 with 3700X and 5700 XT. Now i'm planning to upgrade the whole thing this year with 7800X3D + 7800XT or 7900 GRE. Might wait with GPU to the end of the year or early next year though since flagship RTX 5xxx series is rumored to come out by end of this year and i might want to see what AMD brings
How my comment get deleted? 🤣 UA-cam is weird.
I upgraded from GTX 1070 to 7900XT . The difference in titles like Alan Wake 2 or Last of us part 1 was tremendous. I actually upgraded my monitor shortly after, because I realized I didn't need to be getting 250 FPS in every game with maxed out settings.
Great content as usual mate! Thank you.
I upgraded mine last year to the 7900XT, an upgrade in monitor resolution from 1440p to 4k prompted that. It was a cracking card; but selling it wasn't viable during the pandemic / mining boom as there was a lack of replacements readily available on the market and I wasn't keen on not being able to use my computer for an extended period.
the 1080ti of the 5700xt in the 4090 era
The 1080ti is truly the 1080ti of the Pascal era
Lol how dare you compare the 5700 XT (especially with how horrible the RDNA1 architecture in it itself since they cut alot of features for future compatibility and is only a skipping stone generation) to the great 1080 Ti and before you amd fanboys berate me atleast AMD make it up by delivering the great RDNA2
That should be 6800 imo neck in neck with 6700xt. I will consider 3080 also If it drops in price in used market. If You can Catch a 330 -350 dollars. Not destroyed 3080 i will take it as good gpu.
@@Eleganttf2 1080ti is the most overrated GPU of all time.
@@Eleganttf2 RDNA1 was great what are you talking about?
The 7800 XT is the proper successor to the RX 5700 XT since both are full chips, the RX 7700 XT is the successor to the RX 5600 XT.
Huh. Both look like nice upgrades with double the vram for each counterpart
That isn't true at all. Whether something is a fully-enabled chip or not doesn't dictate its place in the product stack. A 4060 Ti uses a fully-enabled GPU, whereas the 3060 Ti didn't, yet that doesn't make it the successor to the 3070 Ti (which did). A fairer way to look at things is die size, ROPs and CUs, and the 5700 XT only has 64 ROPs and 40 CUs on a 251mm2 die, versus the 96 ROPs and 54 CUs of the 7700 XT and its 346mm2 die. They're simply not in the same class, despite the product naming. The 7600 XT would be closest to a 5700 XT in the current stack, since it also has 64 ROPs, although only 32CUs on a 204mm2 die. It's also a fully-enabled Navi 33 chip, so would meet your criteria too, though the reality is that the 5700 XT doesn't quite match anything in the current stack because there's no 40 CU equivalent. RDNA 1 was a weird generation where AMD abandoned the high end entirely, so it doesn't mesh well with the RDNA 3 stack that competes all the way up to the 4080 (Super).
@@CaptainKenway The 4060Ti(188mm^2) is the successor to the rtx 3050(198mm^2 cut down from 276mm^2). Hell you could say it's the successor to the RTX 3050 6GB which is 200mm^2.
The RX 5700 XT has 251mm^2 die size as a monolith on 7nm, but the RX 7800 XT has 200mm^2 die size on 5nm at 151 Million transistors per mm^2, while the cache 4x 36mm^2 is at 50 Mt/mm^2 on 6nm, if it was all on 5nm it would be 4x 12mm^2 = 48mm^2 + 200mm^2 = 248mm^2.
RDNA1 was what all generations should be, although it was missing a ~350mm^2 RX 5800 XT.
@@TheUltraMinebox Yes they are, but the price is a bit higher than it should be on both.
@@badass6300 You know just enough to argue a solid case for a wrong conclusion :P Navi1 is on the last DUV node, which made the wafer cost manageable. EUV is expensive, and that has translated to such elevated wafer prices that the per-transistor cost went UP despite it being a full 70% density shrink for 5nm. It's not until 4nm that the transistor count reached parity with 7nm.
So expecting to get the same die size for the same money, with a wafer cost increase and an inflation spike, pretty much translates to saying "I expect AMD to be a charity and not a company".
17:11 Those sharp angled blades on that Sapphire Pure card look like they might be noisy. These were tested and refined with an hemi-anechoic chamber?
Excellent revisit! Any chance we could see one for the 5600XT vs 7600XT?
SEEING MY RTX 4070 ONTOP IS NICE RELIEF FOR YEARS TO COME
well yes but its the most expensive
Those 12GB will definetaly not be a relief in years to come
its also way more expensive.....
So you were only benchmarking these old/cross gen games and just "in game testing" the new ones? I'm sorry but what's the point of that?
I was expecting a benchmark of Avatar, Ratchet, Horizon, Alan Wake 2, Immortals etc in a benchmark list. Those are by far the most interesting because some of them use Raytracing by default or DX12 Ultimate features like Mesh Shading. Why did you not put them in the benchmark list and just gave these games "in game testing"? I wanted to see how the 5700XT performs relative compared to the newer GPUs and the Turing GPUs there which should be the entire point of the video. A bit disappointed to be honest.
Yeah, I noticed that too.
This video doesn't seem very objective, at least that's what I perceived.
Alan Wake 2 has been looked at by so many on older cards. If not comparing them, theres no point in saying that the 5700XT still wont run Alan Wake 2. The point of upgrading to the 7700xt/4070 still stands, without beating that dead horse
@@smurfjegeren9739 But it got new patches. And it would not have hurt to include the game that is the most technically advanced one so far in a video about how the 5700XT performs today. Benchmarks of Resident Evil 4, Spiderman, Forza and all the others are not worth anything anymore IMO as we already know how these games perform and they are cross gen ganes. They simply should have been excluded and replaced by the new titles.
@@tensorup6595 Exactly. You can test cross gen games if you want, but he shouldnt have done a comparison with ONLY cross gen titles.
Are you using msi after burner ?
Have this in our media PC which also handles game streaming and VR. For what I play on the big screen, it's more than enough
I hope u do benchmarks of older cpus perhaps intel 8000 series compared to newer ones would be relaly handy
Thank you for making this video! I will be posting my rx 5700 xt pc for sale on offerup, and this will ensure I sell quickly. Couldn't have posted this at a better time.
Thanks for this video!
Still running my Red Devil based on your opinion and review back in the days when she arrived on the market.
Very good GPU, still really happy with her! Thanks!
How does Hardware Measure Total System Power Usage?
Sir what are the exact size of the thermal pads for the red devil version 😢
You fingers will start turning into power cables as much testing as you do. Cheers for this. We still have the RX5700xt (MSI) and a 1080Ti that have been passed down to the kids pcs and we can confirm both GPUs perform amazing for the games they are used for and both are paired with R5 5600 CPUs. Slightly overpowered cards for a 6 and 9 year old but will both be staying in the family as they both upgrade to current architecture as their needs change.
I picked up an RX 5700xt this last holiday for a GREAT price to upgrade the hand-me-down PC my son uses for gaming.
The R9 Fury was not cutting it in games and the 5700xt has been awesome. It is MUCH faster than his Xbox series S that he also plays.
It still does the work!
These revisits are really useful for us, thanks for it!
The timing on this video was perfect for me. I picked up an RX 5700XT for $100 off marketplace and its been serving me really well at 1080p. My local micro center has an open box Hellhound 7700XT for $329 and I wasn't sure whether I was missing out on not getting the 7800XT. Thanks for this video!!
i jumped from 5700xt to 7700xt and im at 1080p 165hz. Go for that open box, its a 70 percent jump in performance, they arent even in the same league. Its pretty much the same jump you get going from 3060 to 3080.
Still rocking mine. Holding up pretty well
Thanks Steve, this was helpful.
I am sorry, but what kind of system you got there where it idles around 100W?
I have wattmeter, I test PCs that go through my hand. Modern igpu machine is 20-25W. With dgpu like 4060 its around 40W.
Was thinking of getting the 5700xt last year as it is great price perf in second handmarket, but got the Rx6600 due to lower power
I have a 5700XT reference, my current want for an upgrade is the 7800XT. Thank you for the video.
Interesting review especially as thinking of upgrading d'ters RX570 to this very spec! I have the RX6700XT and interesting to compare them. Power draw especially. But then we both game at 1080p so use considerably less. Thanks for reviewing👍
FSR in Helldivers II? There's only a 'resolution scaling' in my game. Am I missing something?
My friend finally put his 5700 onto "backup card" status a while back, grabbing one of the last of the 6750XT's. A good cleanout and some new thermal pads and it will go in his backup pc/server system eventually.
Sure it would have been better if he held on a bit longer for a 7700XT, but he was having a lot of thermal throttling issues. These ended up being mostly due to the poor thing being full of dust and dog hair.
The initial driver issues and blue screen problems are long forgotten which is a great thing for those Arc buyers who have had to recently endure the same dramas. Stay the course and it should be resolved, guys.
Suffice to say the new card and the extra 4gb of ram is a great help at 1440.
It's interesting seeing this card looked at again, especially with the rumors that AMD's next generation might not have any high end cards. I bought the 5700XT reference when it first came out, and ended up selling it during the crazy mining period where people were paying silly money for them. It was a hybrid between GCN and RDNA, which is why it was preferred over the 6000 series. It's aged really well, I can see these cards being the same as the old AMD HD 7000 series because they share the same architecture as the PS5 and XBox.
ITs nice to see that this GPU is still a viable option for 1080p. Almost any game released before 2023 are easily playable. And there are plenty of those games out there. At that price range, this GPU is still a viable option if we dont play the latest titles.
hi should i buy asus tuf gaming rtx 3070 ti this 2024 future proof ?
Great review
Love you tossing HD2 in for tests. Man that game is a riot. Game of the year imho. Well done as always HuB
i still have this card and besides a few hiccups in the early months and the driver uninstall due to windows 11, is working great for me
Still rocking my Sapphire Nitro+ 57XT was thinking of either upgrading to 78/79XT or waiting for RDNA 5 that most likely might come out around Zen 5 or latter half of this year
what is the Radeon version at the time of making this video?
Got mine at launch and going to hang on to it for at least one more generation.
Dropped one of these in my nephews PC and its still a good choice (Had one myself back at launch before upgrading later) For £120 paid on the used market he now has a card that can 1080/60 at high & ultra settings on most games out there
been waiting this video for a couple of years now
This is the gpu I'm using, I bought it used as an upgrade from my rx 580. I just repasted it yesterday and saw a 30 degree drop in temps, very happy with it now :)
Got my 5700xt in 2020, looking to upgrade to either the 7800xt or 7900gre, leaning more towards the former though.
Thanks for this vid. I got my 5700xt Sapphire Pulse back in January 2020, right before GPU prices spiked. I'm still rocking it and it is undoubtedly the best component I purchased for my PC. It's nice to see it's still rocking nearly 5 years after its initial release.
I'm looking to upgrade from next gen, so I'm guessing for the 8700xt or 8800xt.
im upgrading from gtx 1660 to rx7700xt. my cpu is 5 3600 and im housing a 550watt psu. should i get a new higher watt psu or should i be fine?
Did you try undervolting as it's supposed to be the "default" way of lowering power consumption and heat without any apparent downsides. With every new gen of cards I''m tempted to change but so far could easily resisted the temptation, one of the betterl HW purchases of mine.
I'm consistently impressed by the range and depth of videos you guys share. There always seems to be just the right video to answer my PC building questions. great work as always!!
Steve must be psychic as I was literally talking about this card yesterday on another channel about finding this card when I was unpacking a box and forgot I had it and don’t know how it is with today’s games and what should i do with it as I don’t need it anymore lol. Thanks Steve. How much value do you think this card has in today market
Good analysis and look back at a good card! Thanks, Steve!
still rocking this Red Devil model in my secondary PC with the Ryzen 3600X
I love when you revisit a graphic cards... But above all I adore is your motherboard roundups.
Upgrading to a 7900 GRE Hellhound from my Red Devil 5700xt. So if the 7700 is around 60% faster, how much more is the 7900 GRE roughly?
This has been a legendary GPU. My non-XT has some great silicon; I run it stable with a decent undervolt + overclock and it beats the XT version by about 5% in Timespy. It's still running Flight Simulator strong on 1080p ultrawide, so I'll upgrade my Ryzen 3600 first, then the GPU.
3:39 how is the RTX 2070 so high up there? That's the vanilla RTX 2070 too that had the TU106 similar to the RTX 2060.
Makes me wonder where my RTX 2080 would land at there.
i still have my 5700XT so looking to upgrade now its been a fantastic card. the 7700xt vs 7800xt is the only benefit the extra VRAM ? or is there other advantages.
The 7800 XT has more CUs(cores), so you get more performance on top of the extra VRAM. About 21% more performance than the 7700 XT.
@@badass6300 thanks
Bought my Red Devil back in 2019 and been considering upgrading it this year since the 5800x3d it's paired with could use some more horsepower from the GPU....but every time I look at those 600+ euro cards it would be "worth" to upgrade to I have to face the reality....that the card still works and runs EVERYTHING pretty decently so...I guess ill skip the 7000 radeon gen and delay upgrading to the next one.
Still have a 5700XT which I picked up from a friend who had those initial driver teething issues. In my system it never complained at all.
If it weren't for insane prices and real world concerns I'd already have a 6800XT or 7900 GRE, but waiting is rarely a bad thing when you're planning to upgrade..