I noticed in the comments and from HU responses to comments that there is a confusion between budget and value builds. This video is about value build, but people are confusing it with budget builds. Here is a difference between these two. When you are making a value build, you are looking best bang for your buck. You are not looking for cheapest parts, but parts which give you the most per dollar spent. Budget build on the other hand tries to achieve minimum acceptable performance for as little money as possible. These things are not the same. Here is the recap: Budget -> Cheapest computer for acceptable gaming performance Value -> Getting the best performing PC for as little as possible
If you want value, you gotta live next to a microcenter and watch their bundle deals like a hawk xD. For about the same price, you could build a computer with a much more impressive cpu leveraging one of those deals.
I don't think this is a great value pc, if you are going to spend $1200 then you probably have lots of money. Another $300-400 gets you a 7800x3d and 7800xt or 7900gre. 25% more in cost gets you a LOT more than 25% in performance. That's value. Neither are budget.
I like that this a very flexible build. You can get extra gpu power just by stepping up to a 7800xt without a cpu bottleneck and you can also upgrade the cpu down the line to a future am5 3d cache cpu with a new GPU in a few years and keep it balanced and relevant. AMD is honestly treating gamers and pc builders pretty good all things considered. I would personally build this exact build with a 7900gre, which has a relatively good price in my country
If you live near a Micro Center in the US, they have combo deals going on where you can snag some good CPU+Mobo+RAM combos for $300 - $450 which should cut the price down quite a bit.
I got a 12900k, mobo and 32gb of DDR5 for about $400. I already had a 2060 and storage and an old case so I was basically up and running. I ended up going back a few months later and picked up a 4070 for about $450 (open box). It was about a two hour drive but worth it.
Fortunately, I live in driving distance from a Micro Center, and while I'm a bit disappointed that Nvidia only sells their reference cards at Best Buy, I did get an RTX 4090 back at release at the MSRP. Same with an AMD Ryzen 7950X. It turned into a great desktop.
😒👍 Correct, i live near Microcenter Westmont and Microcenter Chicago, the only two combo deals if your serious is the 783D or the i9, but if your really really serious just go for the horns and pickup the 7950X3D 16/32 and open her up 👊😒 bliiiiiiiiiiii 🚤......
For about the same price (maybe $100 more before taxes) as the build in the video, I built a computer with a 14700k using one of those bundle deals. Ironically enough, the best time to build was between Black Friday and New Years; there were some really great SSD deals at the time as well.
@@MrSamadolfo I strongly disagree. What are someone's "needs" for gaming enjoyment and appreciation is not for you to say: that's entirely subjective. What's the best bang for buck build, on the other hand, is objective: that's just data, a set point which anyone can use in order to evaluate what's best for them, depending on their personal taste, budget, and needs.
@@ulamss5 According to bestvaluegpu, the 7700XT ranks 4th place in value (3DMark Score divided by Amazon price, new condition only). There are only 3 SKUs above it: 6650XT, 6750XT and 6800.
@@ulamss5 In value terms of 3DMark Score divided by Amazon price, new cards only, the 7700XT ranks in the 4th place. (For some reason UA-cam keeps hiding the comment if I say the source site)
Value does not mean that it has to be cheap. You can build a very fast gaming pc for $800 with a ryzen 5 5600 + rx 6750XT. Today is one of the best times in a long time to build a pc, prices on everything except motherboards and graphics cards have never been lower for the value you get
@@mikem2253 Of course, that's always been the case - the (basically) 6700XT-equipped consoles offer great performance for the price. But you spend the money on PCs to play PC games/play games the PC way or to do PC-specific things, which unfortunately comes at a cost.
9:00 For most countries you're going to want a thermalright phantom spirit at that price, but if you want to spend less then one of the other single tower thermalrights
@@MrSamadolfo The Mugen 6 is about 30% more expensive than the phantom spirit and offers less cooling performance. The Mugen 6 isn't a a bad cooler or anything, but the phantom spirit is a much better bang for the buck cooler.
Seconded, i went for a single-tower Thermalright myself, for my budget Ryzen 7600 build. Price/performance is unbeatable in many regions, especially for AM5 cpus (certain cooler-brands have been tested to perform differently on Intel vs AMD cpus).
It is fun to have a full-build video now and then. And as always, thanks for all the insights and reviews and so-on over the years! The amount of info buyers now have available going into a full system build is incredible these days compared even to recent memory. And it's largely thanks to reviewers and the tech press. So, thank you folks!
You say “still” as if you think it’s old. The 6800XT is still a really stout card and will continue to be for a good few years. It’s actually stronger and will carry you longer than the 7700XT Steve chose for today’s build. I’m seriously jealous of anyone that landed a 6800XT at MSRP when it came out. Those people have been riding high for a few years and can expect to go a few more.
@@frandingofd4059 yeah but the point is you sure don’t need to. Consider it holds up okay against the 4070 which IMO is far and away Nvidia’s most respectable card this generation. You can always upgrade if you just feel like it, but I’d wait until after AMD releases the next FSR, as that’s rumored to finally implement AI to bring it to parity with DLSS. Soak in that “fine wine” effect.
Thanks for this build. Based on the recommendations für the B650 Mainboards in the past on your channel it is a beast. Greetings from Germany to Australia :)
I dont disagree with the core intent behind your comment, being that 1200 bucks is not "cheap". However, i also think many people fail to consider the timeframe. Gaming is indeed a cheap hobby, even if you went for a 4000 bucks gaming pc every couple years. Not like you'll replace it every year. Most people would probably keep a new system for 3-5, or even 7+ years in some cases, depending on their priorities and usecases. If you buy a new 2000 bucks gaming pc every 5 years, that's barely a bit over 30 bucks a month. As far as hobbies are concerned, that's actually pretty darn cheap. Going out for food to a restaurant once a month will cost you more. Buying a starbucks every couple days does too. A lot of people happily spend tons of money on alcohol, nicotin, coffee, energy drinks, the 3 redundant streaming services they subscribed to, the membership for the gym and public pool they barely use, as well as the monthy payments to pay off their needlessly expensive car, which they solely got to impress others, all the while going on expensive concerts and whatnot.. just to then complain about the price to upgrade their pc every couple years lol. Just to be clear, im not saying that's you. There will always be people who genuinely struggle paying for pretty much anything, while not throwing their money out for all kinds of other things. But it's kind of funny when those that do complain about the one purchase that probably offers them more value than any of the others combines. Few things exist in life where you can easily get thousands, if not tens of thousands, of hours of enjoyment out of for such little cost.
A few tips for builders that want other options that are cheaper and can be better in some cases: B650M HDV/M.2 is sometimes seen for $110, same for the PRO RS. Worth getting if below $120~$130 in my opinion. There are some 2x16GB ram kits below $95 that are 6000CL30, check for teamgroup or g.skill models. For air cooler, going for Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit is never a mistake at their ridiculously low price. If you want an AiO, Thermalright frozen edge are below $60 and perform similarly to Deepcool LS720. For cases, check Montech Air 903 or X3 mesh, or Phanteks G360A. For a top of the line case in airflow you can check Lian Li Lancool 216, it's as good as fractal torrent but at less than half the price.
Great recommendations. To add on to this, 850W PSU's shouldn't cost more than $110 USD. There are better ATX 3.0 options than the Kolink unit, like the be quiet PP12M, ADATA Core Reactor II, and the SeaSonic Focus GX ATX 3.0. Once you hit $120, the Vetroo GV1000 owns the value argument over pretty much any 1000+W PSU. It performs like a Vertex or RMx Shift while being quieter and cheaper than both.
Honestly you can go even cheaper than this. The 7500f is basically the same performance in most cases and a fair bit cheaper from AliExpress. If it's just for gaming then you can go for an A620 board. Even the most budget MSI model won't affect performance until you look at the 7900x, and even then you can just enable ECO mode. As for ddr5, cheap 4800mhz stuff will usually OC, and a decent quality 650w PSU is enough especially if you plan to undervolt your GPU. With all the savings you can move up to a 7900GRE and improve frame rates drastically
If you dont care about RGB on your ram, Klevv Bolt V is a steal for their price and guaranteed Hynix Die for OC. I got 6800mhz version with Hynix A-die for just $115, hard to beat that kit at that price
@@tomario8094That's a dead platform with no real upgrade path. AM5 still has a lot of life in it and uses DDR5 RAM, which some games like Spider-Man really prefer.
Nah, RX 6600 XT is much slower. You won't play 1440p above low details with that one, if you want to have at least 60 FPS. The 7700XT should be very suitable for 1440p, if you don't value Raytracing. It is a 1440p card and the 6600XT mostly 1080p (without heavy use of upscaling)
Steve was definitely thinking in terms of a few extra bucks here or there to max out longevity, and a good PSU can easily carry you for 10, even 20 years or more. Having enough power means you don’t have to replace it the next time or four you decide to upgrade. Which in turn means more money for a bigger GPU etc. I have an 850W Silverstone PSU that’s 15 years old powering a 5800X3D and 6900XT. I have every expectation I’ll still be using it 5 or more years from now.
Pretty solid component choices, although for the cooler the best bang for buck air coolers right now are the Thermalright Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit 120 SE, which are around the same price as the arctic freezer 36, but offer vastly better cooling performance. Thermalright's liquid coolers are also pretty good and quite a bit cheaper than the liquid freezer III. I'm probably sounding like a Thermalright fan boy right now, but they are kind of killing it in the cpu cooler market right now in terms of value and the quality of their coolers is on par with more expensive models out there.
Really fun video! Can you do more of these? Would love all kinds of builds! I really like how you explain why you’ve chosen each component and even provide thermals/performance metrics for all options.
That's one of my two builds! I arrived at that price, but spending 300 for psu, case and fans. My second build is Intel based (14600kf) and for now running with an rx 6600. I'm waiting for battlemage and rx 8000 series. We'll see!
Ryzen 5 7600x $170 used DDR5 G.SKILL RAM 6000 $85 New B650 aorus elite ax $122 like new open box RX 7700xt sapphire nitro+ $362 like new Case $60 M.2 SSD 1TB $50 CPU Cooler $25 on sale TOTAL $874
@@MrScankoDepends on what you play. I have 12 games installed and still have 300GB or so on my 1TB drive. I don't leave games installed after I beat them though.
Solid build!! Good value for money. Shame Microcenter is inaccessible to most people. They have an absolutely amazing bundle deal going right now. R7 7700X + MSI B650 Gaming X Wifi + 32GB G.Skill Flare X 6000-CL32 for $379. Absolutely nuts compared to the rest of the market, and makes for an excellent start.
I'm so glad I live near one. (It was formerly a Circuit City. Remember those?) Now if Nvidia actually sold reference cards to Micro Center instead of just Best Buy...
It absolutely is. I’m pretty sure Steve is just going with stuff that’s current-gen and is sure to remain readily available for a while. Supply of 6800s and 6800XTs has dwindled and could be gone any day at this point. I don’t know why people aren’t scrambling to get the last remaining cards out there especially with the recent suggestions that FSR is likely to finally get the “AI” treatment to close the subjective gap with DLSS. This is almost guaranteed to be back-compatible to at least 6000-series cards.
They're pretty even in a lot of things besides streaming so if someone in the future wants to stream then the 7700xt is definitely for them otherwise, either or doesn't really matter.
You could save up more on PSU which is little bit of an overkill and you can leave base cooler in place to save a little bit of money. Then reinvest it to RX 7800 XT for maximum value. You maybe could look to skimp on RAM too a little bit as those seemed more premium options from base models.
There is certainly some room to go lower on the price, but i wouldnt ever "cheap out" on a psu, personally. The really cheap ones dont really offer protection, or sometimes are the biggest danger for the system in the first place. The psu is the only component between a faulty power line, or a lightning strike, and your pc being fried. Even if we dont consider the more extreme examples, if you pay your own electricity, a higher efficiency psu with "overkill" wattage *will* pay for itself. Generally speaking, psus are at their peak efficiency at only 1/2 - 2/3 of their max usage, so if your theoretical max consumption peaks at around 70-75%% of the psus capabilities, that's more or less perfect, efficiency wise.
@@Yamyatos He went with 850 W PSU with separable cables. This isn't about quality of CPU, he went for more power than such system needs and paid for a feature which a person could do without. Those two things can double PSU price without really affecting quality of PSU itself.
@@REgamesplayer As i said, there is room to go lower on the price. However, the components he chose can draw up to 400W, so ~650-750Wis actually a very reasonably sized psu unit for maximum power efficiency. I think he went with the psu he did to allow for upgrades down the line. I personally dont ever go for PC upgrades, but for those that do, this build will allow you to fit pretty much any CPU and GPU upgrade you may desire in the future. Sure enough tho, if you wanted to minimize cost or dont care about upgrades, you can absolutely save money here, and as i mentioned above, even go with a bit less wattage.
@@Yamyatos The standard PSU for such configuration is 650 W. It is more than enough for computer parts and it leaves room for future upgrades. He made a mistake here by offering people better PSU than they need. The gold standard would be to go for something like Corsair CX650. It costs 65 eur versus 125 eur for power supply hardware unboxed went with. That is excessive for a value build and please, stop defending his obvious mistakes in the offered build. Is it bad? No. Is it unoptimized part? Yes. In both ways you have room for future upgrades. It is just his is paying for unnecessary stuff which you probably not going to need. As an enthusiast, I could easily make better value build than that is on display here. I can easily skim 60 euros here. 20 euros on non branded, non-RGB RAM. Maybe optimize motherboard a little bit and save up to 20 euros there. Here, 100 euros which can fund upgrade from RX 7700 XT to RX 7800 XT. Or you could get RTX 4070 instead. If you can spend 50 euros more, you could get RTX 4070 Super instead.
Nah I'll sit this one out, I don't wanna compare to the $1200 build I did in November 2022 because there's no way I'm ready to recover from that financially again.
No offense, but you need to handle your finances better if $1200 throws it out of whack. You should always have atleast twice that, preferably four times that sitting in your bank account for unexpeted things breaking. Washing machine, car, etc.
@@The_Noticer. What I mean is I don't need to be spending £1200 on incrementally upgrading a toy every 18 months. I have a kid, other hobbies, and better things to be spending that money on. Yes I need that amount in money or available credit for emergencies, that's why I'm not spending it - so I have it available, for emergencies. Maybe you should handle getting a read on whether your unsolicited opinion is warranted better, then you wouldn't need to say jackass phrases like "no offence".
@@InnuendoXP Hey mate, you are the one that put yourself out there. Changing up the story to save face doesn't help your case either. If you have plenty of disposable income but choose not to spend it on PC parts every cycle, congratulations, you're like everyone else. But thats not what you wrote in the OP.
@@The_Noticer. "I will never financially recover from this" is a common glib hyperbolic expression in online parlance & the cost of discretionary non-essentials like gaming hardware is a non-trivial expense for most normal people on a median income with bills to pay & mouths to feed. So the idea of the prospect of the cost being repeated in a narrow window of time is enough to make most normal people wince a little - hence the hyperbole, which is emotionally, though probably not literally, relatable to many people. You just saw an opportunity to be a judgemental sanctimonious ass & found it irresistible, and apparently are continuing to find it irresistible.
Great build, Steve! Keep up the great work! Only one question, were those side fans mounted as intake or exhaust? If it was set to exhaust, with no other intake fans in the build, I believe that may have a negative impact on your testing temperatures. Great day to ya, boss!
I wasn't willing to retire my AM4 mobo so I grabbed a 5800x3d and 7700xt. I already had the 32gb ddr4 and an x670 aurous so I have decided to stay AM4 and skip the AM5 chipset altogether. Nothing in my gaming needs will require more than I have for the next 6 to 9 years and the tech industry is moving so fast the 7900GRE I have will eventually be plugged on for the vram and the am% will cost nothing second hand in 2028/2029 Edit, I was given a free 7900GRE and swapped a 6700xt straight out for a 7700xt. I have not opened the GRE yet as I had not decided if I want to use or sell it just now. I have swapped my gpu and sold my 5600x toward my 5800x3d and only come out of pocket £190 quid for the upgrades. Swapping/upcycling works out really well these days. If someone just has to have a new AM5 build they dont need to play the games they play and have the money to do so, enjoy. There isnt a single game currently worth playing or even requiring anything AM5 has to offer even though the mem is faster (and useless speed to boot) but will never be "future proof" as nothing is in the world of tech. AM4 will be fine til 2028 and possibly til 2030.
At this point it's surprising there aren't more videos like this. For gaming, you get so much more for your money going with all AMD, especially now that they've really started to do well with FSR and AFMF.
@rube9169 FSR has shown to have slightly worse image quality but a lot of the time offers a bigger improvement in framerate than DLSS. AMD is killing it right now.
I would love to see you guys do some iTX testing. Over the last 12 years or so, every machine I've built has been smaller than the last. I don't think I'll ever build another ATX machine again and would love to see the HUB treatement on iTX boards.
I have the same GSkill memory kit, using it with an Asus B650E-F Gaming mobo and a 7600X. The entire system is unstable when using the Expo2 profile but works flawlessly when the Expo profile is running. Just a tip for anybody using this RAM kit but having weird crashes while gaming.
Just grabbed a new R5 7600 for $131 USD with a coupon from a retailer who had it on for $180. Kind of a lateral move from my 5700X, but may as well for that price since I have a B650 mobo kicking around for it anyway. Should go great with my RX 6800.
6 months after last black Friday and the new-build value pc has barely changed at all. Built a 7600x/6800xt/32gb@6000/750w/1tb Gen 4 machine in jonsbo d31 for a friend and it came out to just about $1200.
I think it makes sense to spend way less on the PSU, get a slightly cheaper motherboard and case, and get a $20 Thermalright tower cooler to fit a 7800XT into that budget. Also the 7500F is on AliExpress for like $130.
Funny you should post this Steve, because I was currently in the process of sourcing value components for making a budget price to performance build, and if I wasn't going ITX, this is what I would have selected. Ended up going for a minis forum AR900i that has a 13900HX in it, for $759. Integrated laptop CPU. Ended up being slightly cheaper with the same 32GB of ram then a 7600 build. But baller none the less. Great work on this video!
It is always hard to make something like this. Prices varies in each country and also taxes. Here in germany we have 19% tax. 1200$ is ~1105€ or ~1310€ with tax ontop. For just 1379€ I get a 7800X3D with the best aircooler (PA120SE), 7900GRE or 4070, good B650 board (tested by you), 32GB 6000CL36 RAM, 2TB 4.0 NVME, good ATX 3.0 850W PSU and a 60-80€ case, like the Lian Li Dan A3 that is coming. So yeah, I can get here a much better PC for almost the same money.
I got a 7700 XT a couple of weeks ago and im using a Ryzen 5 5600x, so im just trying to see what CPU, MB, RAM and PSU to use for an upgrade. Thank you for this video.
Awesome best-value build! Most specially because this is not sponsored, so just your own best choices, precisely the best suggestions we can possibly get from HU. I will definitely revisit this video whenever I finally tackle my next build. Waiting those few weeks for those AMD announcements/releases, we'll see
Great build. Your fan config with the AIO is wrong tho - you need to pull air through the radiator not expell it - otherwise you wont have any airflow through the system.
@@gamingunboxed5130 Its fine when you can draw air from the ventillation in the base.. but it can be tricky when there are power supply, modular cables, harddrives in there blocking it.. I run an AIO which is cooled by the case fans drawing air through the top vent only.. CPU never gets passed 50c. With a 4090 or a very high end cpu you need to make sure a decent amount of air is being drawn from outside though
Nice, I just finished off my 7600x build with a 7800xt(gigabyte, yes its loud)a gigabyte B650 DS3H,Fractal designs case and coolers,Gigabyte G32QC-A QHD, hopefully i get years of good gaming from it.
Hearing you guys talk about the ASRock MoBo makes me feel good since that was the exact MoBo I chose to go with for my recent build. Went with a 7600X CPU for now since it was on a great sale and came with 32GB of RAM free, but plan on upgrading to a x800X3D some time down the line on a future gen CPU that still uses AM5. Still needing to get a new GPU as I'm still using my 1070, but waiting on prices to drop or a good sale. Really want to grab an AMD GPU since they seem to be better value atm, but I "need" NVENC for streaming as I've not seen any real good mentioned for AMD in that regard.
I wouldn't pick either ASRock 7700 XT cards in Australia. The Challenger OC and Phantom Gaming OC are expensive at AUD702 and AUD872 respectively, according to PCPP at time of this post. In comparison, the Saphhire PULSE, ASUS TUF Gaming OC, Powercolor Hellhound OC, Gigabyte Gaming OC, Sapphire Nitro+ and XFX Speedster QICK 319 BLACK are AUD599, AUD629, AUD649, AUD659, AUD659 and AUD697 respectively, again according to PCPP.
The problem with pcpp is that it ignores a ton of shops. I wouldn't choose asus or gigabyte though, given how trash those companies are at this point in time.
@@sergioav7278 Given ASUS's woes recently, I wouldn't either. And I've had two bad 6750 XTs from Gigabyte (horrendous coil whine and hotspot temps exceeding 100C) before I settled on an MSI Gaming X Trio. That said, not everyone has the luxury to reach for the better GPUs when they're on a budget, but it can be a roll of the dice whether you get a probably working GPU or not regardless of brand. Lastly, yes, PCPP doesn't take into consideration other shops and even eBay, but it's a good resource and my first port of call followed by staticice and then other shops not plugged into PCPP.
-Wow, that's a really good price for the SSD- Where are you getting that price for the SSD? Currently it's $149.99 at newegg and via 3rd party sellers on Amazon, and the last time it was close to $100 was five months ago
Sir,I don't want to spend more on SSD, Should I can use 1 TB SSD here instead of TEAMGROUP CARDEA A440 is 2TB If your answer is yes then which 1TB SSD should i use?😊❤
definitely think its worth getting the 7800xt over the 7700xt for $50-100 extra. More vram and better performance. Can even play 1440p quite well with the 7800xt. If you wait for deals you can get it for considerably cheaper too, i bought the 7800xt for $400 definitely recommend buying used though! try win some of those eBay bids
The cheapest 7800 XT is $100 more, if you want a 7800 XT just add $100 to the budget. It's not worth getting a much worse motherboard to save $20, much worse memory for another $20 and so on.
I mean you can build the same pc for 970 if you go with a cheaper case and no aio, r5 7600 doesn't really need that much cooling, my r5 7600 only reaches 70 Celsius under full load, and I use a basic rgb tower air cooler.
No, the cheapest CPU model you should bother with is the 7500F. A great MOBO pick though. However, I would definitely go for the 4070S instead of the 7700XT and the FSP Hydro G PRO 850W or the Seasonic Focus GX 850 Gold instead of that Kolink PSP.
I'd be curious to see a test of these AM5 motherboard to see how well some of them implement ECC where possible. I'm more interested in maximizing stability at the cost of a little bit of performance personally, and have been trying to research how I could get a (proper) ECC setup out of the Ryzen platform, I'm told it's possible but support is patchy. Would be an interesting topic to explore, and I haven't seen many do so.
I think the Thermalright peerless assassin would be the best cooler option it’s even cheaper at around $34. That said if you can get a last gen RX 6800 or RX 6800 XT it would be an even better value. Other than that would just fine. Build is decent overall.
I almost cant fcking handle to wait for my 5090 + 7800x3D (or maybe 9800x3D if that one gets released around the same time as the 5090) lol currently have an i7 3770 + GTX 1070 + 16GB Ram PC. This CPU is like 10+ years old or so lmao this will be the biggest step up of step ups. Will also go from my current 27" 1080p60 monitor to a 32" 240hz 4k OLED to give my 5090 something to drive. really cant explain how excited I am... I never really had a PC where I can put everything on max, use RT, PT, DLSS, Ray Reconstruction and all that on very high refresh rate in 4k resolution on an amazing OLED display. Man this will be glorious. I think end of this year will be the time the 5090 is out but I hope it will be sooner than that. I thought about pre buiding my pc with everything BUT the GPU already and use my 1070 until the 5090 gets released. But not sure about that. I will wait for Computex, hopefully AMD says the 9800x3D gets released this year as well. Until then Im using Geforce Now cloud gaming, this works extremely good even on my 4k tv, looks and plays awesome. But playing stuff natively on a better monitor will be something else.
I just used the Phanteks XT Pro Ultra for my build, don't get me wrong I absolutely love it, but if I could have I would have gotten the XT View. The four M25 140mm DRGB fans coupled with the ample build room made it great for a first build. Although, I dumped about $1,000 more into my system (and that was with parts on sale). MSI X670E Gaming Plus - WiFi, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, almost the same RAM but the RGB version, MSI Spatium M480 Pro 2TB Gen 4.0 x4 (7400/7000 read/write), MSI Core Liquid E360 AIO, and powered by 2024 release of the Thermaltake GF1 850w 80+ Gold PSU, and the GPU is the behemoth Zotac RTX 4070Ti Super which just under 360mm long. I don't plan on needing to upgrade anything for a few years lol. The only thing I will do now is install a Razer Chroma lighting controller because having my case fans on one ARGB header and then the 3 radiator fans, pump head, and ARGB support bracket share the other one results in some piss-poor and severely disappointing results.
MSI AIO have a high failure rate, install Core Temp and add it to your taskbar, it should be idling in the 30s to 40s, once you start to see 50s its time to replace the cooler
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I noticed in the comments and from HU responses to comments that there is a confusion between budget and value builds. This video is about value build, but people are confusing it with budget builds. Here is a difference between these two. When you are making a value build, you are looking best bang for your buck. You are not looking for cheapest parts, but parts which give you the most per dollar spent. Budget build on the other hand tries to achieve minimum acceptable performance for as little money as possible. These things are not the same. Here is the recap:
Budget -> Cheapest computer for acceptable gaming performance
Value -> Getting the best performing PC for as little as possible
🙂 agree but either way its Underwelming
If you want value, you gotta live next to a microcenter and watch their bundle deals like a hawk xD. For about the same price, you could build a computer with a much more impressive cpu leveraging one of those deals.
I don't think this is a great value pc, if you are going to spend $1200 then you probably have lots of money. Another $300-400 gets you a 7800x3d and 7800xt or 7900gre.
25% more in cost gets you a LOT more than 25% in performance. That's value. Neither are budget.
How is this "value" when you can fit a 4070 ti super and AMD 7500F CPU within the same budget?
You're confusing value with performance later. Budget = most performance staying within a budget. 7700XT does not match with that.
I like that this a very flexible build. You can get extra gpu power just by stepping up to a 7800xt without a cpu bottleneck and you can also upgrade the cpu down the line to a future am5 3d cache cpu with a new GPU in a few years and keep it balanced and relevant. AMD is honestly treating gamers and pc builders pretty good all things considered.
I would personally build this exact build with a 7900gre, which has a relatively good price in my country
yeah i would avoid that 12gb card, its underwelming, go 16 FTW
if you dont mind going used for some parts you might could get a 6800xt or 6900xt and squeeze in a 7800x3d, i plan on doing something like that soon
get a better GPU and spend less on the PSU, cooler and motherboard to still stay within budget.
I'm being patient and aiming to snipe a 7800 XT on a sale hehe, my country it's pretty decent pricing then
“Spend less on a PSU”, yeah, no.
If you live near a Micro Center in the US, they have combo deals going on where you can snag some good CPU+Mobo+RAM combos for $300 - $450 which should cut the price down quite a bit.
I got a 12900k, mobo and 32gb of DDR5 for about $400. I already had a 2060 and storage and an old case so I was basically up and running. I ended up going back a few months later and picked up a 4070 for about $450 (open box). It was about a two hour drive but worth it.
Fortunately, I live in driving distance from a Micro Center, and while I'm a bit disappointed that Nvidia only sells their reference cards at Best Buy, I did get an RTX 4090 back at release at the MSRP. Same with an AMD Ryzen 7950X. It turned into a great desktop.
😒👍 Correct, i live near Microcenter Westmont and Microcenter Chicago, the only two combo deals if your serious is the 783D or the i9, but if your really really serious just go for the horns and pickup the 7950X3D 16/32 and open her up 👊😒 bliiiiiiiiiiii 🚤......
Yes but many people don't want to come back there, because of how dirty are they
For about the same price (maybe $100 more before taxes) as the build in the video, I built a computer with a 14700k using one of those bundle deals. Ironically enough, the best time to build was between Black Friday and New Years; there were some really great SSD deals at the time as well.
I'm so happy I managed to get a 6800xt for 416 to finish my 7600 build
Yeah the 6800 XT is definitely better than the 7700 XT. The extra Vram is nice, though it is a bit less power efficient.
I got a 4070S open box for my R5 7600 build. If my PSU didn't die I would fit it all under $1000.
Brand new with warranty?
@@kingeling Yes, new, ASRock 6800XT Taichi
Got one for $325 second hand last year. Rocks 1080p 165 hz monitor, gonna use it for a long time.
I literally just build that setup for my nephew a week ago
Thats cool is the setup running well?
Lucky nephew.
🙂 for a nephew this feels alright but for an Adult with a job u need to go higher up the tier stack and open up that throttle 👊😒
@@MrSamadolfo I strongly disagree.
What are someone's "needs" for gaming enjoyment and appreciation is not for you to say:
that's entirely subjective.
What's the best bang for buck build, on the other hand, is objective:
that's just data, a set point which anyone can use in order to evaluate what's best for them,
depending on their personal taste, budget, and needs.
@@johnpetith5523 he’s loving it
Not even a year has passed and the RX 7700XT has become a "Bang For Buck" option already. The market changes FAST!
It's really not. This is just a poor combination from HUB.
@@ulamss5 According to bestvaluegpu, the 7700XT ranks 4th place in value (3DMark Score divided by Amazon price, new condition only). There are only 3 SKUs above it: 6650XT, 6750XT and 6800.
@@ulamss5 In value terms of 3DMark Score divided by Amazon price, new cards only, the 7700XT ranks in the 4th place.
(For some reason UA-cam keeps hiding the comment if I say the source site)
@@ulamss5 how so? Suggest a comparable build that looks good and gets more fps.
@@lewzealand4717 $1200 for a PC is not good value, no matter how you twist the definition
Crazy that a 1200$ build counts as "value" today.
well if you spend less you get a much worse PC and if you spend more you get limited gains so yeah
About the same as $750 ~20 years ago I guess.
Hate to say it, but the best value is probably still the consoles.
Value does not mean that it has to be cheap. You can build a very fast gaming pc for $800 with a ryzen 5 5600 + rx 6750XT. Today is one of the best times in a long time to build a pc, prices on everything except motherboards and graphics cards have never been lower for the value you get
@@mikem2253 Of course, that's always been the case - the (basically) 6700XT-equipped consoles offer great performance for the price. But you spend the money on PCs to play PC games/play games the PC way or to do PC-specific things, which unfortunately comes at a cost.
9:00 For most countries you're going to want a thermalright phantom spirit at that price, but if you want to spend less then one of the other single tower thermalrights
😏👍 Mugen 6 Black Edition FTW
@@MrSamadolfo The Mugen 6 is about 30% more expensive than the phantom spirit and offers less cooling performance. The Mugen 6 isn't a a bad cooler or anything, but the phantom spirit is a much better bang for the buck cooler.
Seconded, i went for a single-tower Thermalright myself, for my budget Ryzen 7600 build. Price/performance is unbeatable in many regions, especially for AM5 cpus (certain cooler-brands have been tested to perform differently on Intel vs AMD cpus).
@@dare2liv_nlove thermalright really came in and took the 212 evos market
It is fun to have a full-build video now and then.
And as always, thanks for all the insights and reviews and so-on over the years! The amount of info buyers now have available going into a full system build is incredible these days compared even to recent memory. And it's largely thanks to reviewers and the tech press. So, thank you folks!
that ssd aio would actually make sense for gen 5 ssds pushing those crazy transfer speeds
This is exactly what i was looking for today, thanks
I’m still on am4 with a ryzen 7 5700 XT x570 ASRock motherboard, Corsair ram 32gb and 6800 XT asrock also.
you'll be good for many years.
You say “still” as if you think it’s old. The 6800XT is still a really stout card and will continue to be for a good few years. It’s actually stronger and will carry you longer than the 7700XT Steve chose for today’s build. I’m seriously jealous of anyone that landed a 6800XT at MSRP when it came out. Those people have been riding high for a few years and can expect to go a few more.
But some people think that 6800 XT is old and wants the news one
@@frandingofd4059 yeah but the point is you sure don’t need to. Consider it holds up okay against the 4070 which IMO is far and away Nvidia’s most respectable card this generation. You can always upgrade if you just feel like it, but I’d wait until after AMD releases the next FSR, as that’s rumored to finally implement AI to bring it to parity with DLSS. Soak in that “fine wine” effect.
Steve thanks for mentioning the Aussie pricing as you went along too.
Thanks for this build. Based on the recommendations für the B650 Mainboards in the past on your channel it is a beast. Greetings from Germany to Australia :)
thank you for using the word affordable. I am glad to see this trend way too many creators use the word cheap. That's not the correct word.
I dont disagree with the core intent behind your comment, being that 1200 bucks is not "cheap". However, i also think many people fail to consider the timeframe. Gaming is indeed a cheap hobby, even if you went for a 4000 bucks gaming pc every couple years. Not like you'll replace it every year. Most people would probably keep a new system for 3-5, or even 7+ years in some cases, depending on their priorities and usecases. If you buy a new 2000 bucks gaming pc every 5 years, that's barely a bit over 30 bucks a month. As far as hobbies are concerned, that's actually pretty darn cheap. Going out for food to a restaurant once a month will cost you more. Buying a starbucks every couple days does too. A lot of people happily spend tons of money on alcohol, nicotin, coffee, energy drinks, the 3 redundant streaming services they subscribed to, the membership for the gym and public pool they barely use, as well as the monthy payments to pay off their needlessly expensive car, which they solely got to impress others, all the while going on expensive concerts and whatnot.. just to then complain about the price to upgrade their pc every couple years lol.
Just to be clear, im not saying that's you. There will always be people who genuinely struggle paying for pretty much anything, while not throwing their money out for all kinds of other things. But it's kind of funny when those that do complain about the one purchase that probably offers them more value than any of the others combines. Few things exist in life where you can easily get thousands, if not tens of thousands, of hours of enjoyment out of for such little cost.
A few tips for builders that want other options that are cheaper and can be better in some cases:
B650M HDV/M.2 is sometimes seen for $110, same for the PRO RS. Worth getting if below $120~$130 in my opinion.
There are some 2x16GB ram kits below $95 that are 6000CL30, check for teamgroup or g.skill models.
For air cooler, going for Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit is never a mistake at their ridiculously low price. If you want an AiO, Thermalright frozen edge are below $60 and perform similarly to Deepcool LS720.
For cases, check Montech Air 903 or X3 mesh, or Phanteks G360A. For a top of the line case in airflow you can check Lian Li Lancool 216, it's as good as fractal torrent but at less than half the price.
Great recommendations. To add on to this, 850W PSU's shouldn't cost more than $110 USD. There are better ATX 3.0 options than the Kolink unit, like the be quiet PP12M, ADATA Core Reactor II, and the SeaSonic Focus GX ATX 3.0.
Once you hit $120, the Vetroo GV1000 owns the value argument over pretty much any 1000+W PSU. It performs like a Vertex or RMx Shift while being quieter and cheaper than both.
Honestly you can go even cheaper than this. The 7500f is basically the same performance in most cases and a fair bit cheaper from AliExpress. If it's just for gaming then you can go for an A620 board. Even the most budget MSI model won't affect performance until you look at the 7900x, and even then you can just enable ECO mode. As for ddr5, cheap 4800mhz stuff will usually OC, and a decent quality 650w PSU is enough especially if you plan to undervolt your GPU. With all the savings you can move up to a 7900GRE and improve frame rates drastically
If you dont care about RGB on your ram, Klevv Bolt V is a steal for their price and guaranteed Hynix Die for OC. I got 6800mhz version with Hynix A-die for just $115, hard to beat that kit at that price
Is this the AM5 version of 5600X + RX 6600 XT?
5600x and 6700XT would fit better
@@tomario80946700xt is such a good card
5600+7800xt there good)
@@tomario8094That's a dead platform with no real upgrade path. AM5 still has a lot of life in it and uses DDR5 RAM, which some games like Spider-Man really prefer.
Nah, RX 6600 XT is much slower. You won't play 1440p above low details with that one, if you want to have at least 60 FPS.
The 7700XT should be very suitable for 1440p, if you don't value Raytracing. It is a 1440p card and the 6600XT mostly 1080p (without heavy use of upscaling)
I don't quite get why it needs 850W power supply. 700W seems plenty to me even with an upgrade in mind.
🙂 actually a 650W Bronze from Tier C on the PSU Tier List, they go for about $60
Both, the CPU and the GPU combined will rarely exceed 300 W. Even with 100% reserve, a good 600 W PSU should do the work flawlessly.
Steve was definitely thinking in terms of a few extra bucks here or there to max out longevity, and a good PSU can easily carry you for 10, even 20 years or more. Having enough power means you don’t have to replace it the next time or four you decide to upgrade. Which in turn means more money for a bigger GPU etc.
I have an 850W Silverstone PSU that’s 15 years old powering a 5800X3D and 6900XT. I have every expectation I’ll still be using it 5 or more years from now.
Great video Steve! I was lookin for a good case around that range and I finally have it! idfk how I managed to not find that one...
Pretty solid component choices, although for the cooler the best bang for buck air coolers right now are the Thermalright Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit 120 SE, which are around the same price as the arctic freezer 36, but offer vastly better cooling performance. Thermalright's liquid coolers are also pretty good and quite a bit cheaper than the liquid freezer III. I'm probably sounding like a Thermalright fan boy right now, but they are kind of killing it in the cpu cooler market right now in terms of value and the quality of their coolers is on par with more expensive models out there.
Indeed they all come together very well. Well done!
I'd get the Thermalright peerless assassin or the phantom spirit. Better than liquid. And epic for 30 to 40 usd
Love these videos , hope you create more of these when new gen launches
Really fun video! Can you do more of these? Would love all kinds of builds! I really like how you explain why you’ve chosen each component and even provide thermals/performance metrics for all options.
That's one of my two builds! I arrived at that price, but spending 300 for psu, case and fans. My second build is Intel based (14600kf) and for now running with an rx 6600. I'm waiting for battlemage and rx 8000 series. We'll see!
Could we get a temp comparison between kryo sheet and Liquid Metal I haven’t found any reviews that have temp comparisons
should be similar 🙂
I’d like to see this too but it’s a little sideways of HUBs usual content. Hopefully Gamer’s Nexus may be kind enough to oblige.
Ryzen 5 7600x $170 used
DDR5 G.SKILL RAM 6000 $85 New
B650 aorus elite ax $122 like new open box
RX 7700xt sapphire nitro+ $362 like new
Case $60
M.2 SSD 1TB $50
CPU Cooler $25 on sale
TOTAL $874
Excellent choice!
Need PSU.
You forgot the PSU
1gb is too small for games.
@@MrScankoDepends on what you play. I have 12 games installed and still have 300GB or so on my 1TB drive. I don't leave games installed after I beat them though.
Solid build!! Good value for money. Shame Microcenter is inaccessible to most people. They have an absolutely amazing bundle deal going right now. R7 7700X + MSI B650 Gaming X Wifi + 32GB G.Skill Flare X 6000-CL32 for $379. Absolutely nuts compared to the rest of the market, and makes for an excellent start.
I'm so glad I live near one. (It was formerly a Circuit City. Remember those?) Now if Nvidia actually sold reference cards to Micro Center instead of just Best Buy...
@@cameronbosch1213 😏 you remember Fry's
The 6800 is better deal than the 7700xt in my opinion
It absolutely is. I’m pretty sure Steve is just going with stuff that’s current-gen and is sure to remain readily available for a while. Supply of 6800s and 6800XTs has dwindled and could be gone any day at this point. I don’t know why people aren’t scrambling to get the last remaining cards out there especially with the recent suggestions that FSR is likely to finally get the “AI” treatment to close the subjective gap with DLSS. This is almost guaranteed to be back-compatible to at least 6000-series cards.
Getting harder to find.
They're pretty even in a lot of things besides streaming so if someone in the future wants to stream then the 7700xt is definitely for them otherwise, either or doesn't really matter.
That's far more expensive where i live.
system looks outstanding. I happen to use the same colour in the RGB for my build. I love the ice blue look in a system
🙂 agree, some of my builds are blue and some are red devil theme, i recently pickup a white case with ice blue Street Fighter 6 emblems
Excellent video more of this please.
You can also use the thermalright peerless assassin for the air cooler option. same price, and i think it performs a better too
This feels almost nostalgic
You could save up more on PSU which is little bit of an overkill and you can leave base cooler in place to save a little bit of money. Then reinvest it to RX 7800 XT for maximum value. You maybe could look to skimp on RAM too a little bit as those seemed more premium options from base models.
There is certainly some room to go lower on the price, but i wouldnt ever "cheap out" on a psu, personally. The really cheap ones dont really offer protection, or sometimes are the biggest danger for the system in the first place. The psu is the only component between a faulty power line, or a lightning strike, and your pc being fried. Even if we dont consider the more extreme examples, if you pay your own electricity, a higher efficiency psu with "overkill" wattage *will* pay for itself. Generally speaking, psus are at their peak efficiency at only 1/2 - 2/3 of their max usage, so if your theoretical max consumption peaks at around 70-75%% of the psus capabilities, that's more or less perfect, efficiency wise.
@@Yamyatos He went with 850 W PSU with separable cables. This isn't about quality of CPU, he went for more power than such system needs and paid for a feature which a person could do without. Those two things can double PSU price without really affecting quality of PSU itself.
@@REgamesplayer As i said, there is room to go lower on the price. However, the components he chose can draw up to 400W, so ~650-750Wis actually a very reasonably sized psu unit for maximum power efficiency. I think he went with the psu he did to allow for upgrades down the line. I personally dont ever go for PC upgrades, but for those that do, this build will allow you to fit pretty much any CPU and GPU upgrade you may desire in the future. Sure enough tho, if you wanted to minimize cost or dont care about upgrades, you can absolutely save money here, and as i mentioned above, even go with a bit less wattage.
@@Yamyatos The standard PSU for such configuration is 650 W. It is more than enough for computer parts and it leaves room for future upgrades. He made a mistake here by offering people better PSU than they need. The gold standard would be to go for something like Corsair CX650. It costs 65 eur versus 125 eur for power supply hardware unboxed went with. That is excessive for a value build and please, stop defending his obvious mistakes in the offered build. Is it bad? No. Is it unoptimized part? Yes. In both ways you have room for future upgrades. It is just his is paying for unnecessary stuff which you probably not going to need.
As an enthusiast, I could easily make better value build than that is on display here. I can easily skim 60 euros here. 20 euros on non branded, non-RGB RAM. Maybe optimize motherboard a little bit and save up to 20 euros there. Here, 100 euros which can fund upgrade from RX 7700 XT to RX 7800 XT. Or you could get RTX 4070 instead. If you can spend 50 euros more, you could get RTX 4070 Super instead.
Nah I'll sit this one out, I don't wanna compare to the $1200 build I did in November 2022 because there's no way I'm ready to recover from that financially again.
No offense, but you need to handle your finances better if $1200 throws it out of whack. You should always have atleast twice that, preferably four times that sitting in your bank account for unexpeted things breaking. Washing machine, car, etc.
@@The_Noticer. What I mean is I don't need to be spending £1200 on incrementally upgrading a toy every 18 months. I have a kid, other hobbies, and better things to be spending that money on.
Yes I need that amount in money or available credit for emergencies, that's why I'm not spending it - so I have it available, for emergencies.
Maybe you should handle getting a read on whether your unsolicited opinion is warranted better, then you wouldn't need to say jackass phrases like "no offence".
@@InnuendoXP Hey mate, you are the one that put yourself out there. Changing up the story to save face doesn't help your case either. If you have plenty of disposable income but choose not to spend it on PC parts every cycle, congratulations, you're like everyone else. But thats not what you wrote in the OP.
@@The_Noticer. Damn I’m 15 and now I’m considering if I should save 200 more just to have in my account after I buy my pc
@@The_Noticer. "I will never financially recover from this" is a common glib hyperbolic expression in online parlance & the cost of discretionary non-essentials like gaming hardware is a non-trivial expense for most normal people on a median income with bills to pay & mouths to feed. So the idea of the prospect of the cost being repeated in a narrow window of time is enough to make most normal people wince a little - hence the hyperbole, which is emotionally, though probably not literally, relatable to many people.
You just saw an opportunity to be a judgemental sanctimonious ass & found it irresistible, and apparently are continuing to find it irresistible.
I used a 5950x with a modest air cooler and it works great and doesn't get crazy hot. Usually floats around 65c while under load
I love running the 7600 and 7700xt in my rig!
Great build, Steve! Keep up the great work! Only one question, were those side fans mounted as intake or exhaust? If it was set to exhaust, with no other intake fans in the build, I believe that may have a negative impact on your testing temperatures. Great day to ya, boss!
holy, it's insane that this is what value is now, at least its am5 so you got an upgrade path
I wasn't willing to retire my AM4 mobo so I grabbed a 5800x3d and 7700xt. I already had the 32gb ddr4 and an x670 aurous so I have decided to stay AM4 and skip the AM5 chipset altogether. Nothing in my gaming needs will require more than I have for the next 6 to 9 years and the tech industry is moving so fast the 7900GRE I have will eventually be plugged on for the vram and the am% will cost nothing second hand in 2028/2029
Edit, I was given a free 7900GRE and swapped a 6700xt straight out for a 7700xt. I have not opened the GRE yet as I had not decided if I want to use or sell it just now. I have swapped my gpu and sold my 5600x toward my 5800x3d and only come out of pocket £190 quid for the upgrades. Swapping/upcycling works out really well these days. If someone just has to have a new AM5 build they dont need to play the games they play and have the money to do so, enjoy. There isnt a single game currently worth playing or even requiring anything AM5 has to offer even though the mem is faster (and useless speed to boot) but will never be "future proof" as nothing is in the world of tech. AM4 will be fine til 2028 and possibly til 2030.
A no-sponsor-all-AMD pc. I like it!
At this point it's surprising there aren't more videos like this. For gaming, you get so much more for your money going with all AMD, especially now that they've really started to do well with FSR and AFMF.
@@benknapp3787 You lost me at FSR, but besides that I agree. 👍
@@rube9169 FSR is supposed to get better soon.
@rube9169 FSR has shown to have slightly worse image quality but a lot of the time offers a bigger improvement in framerate than DLSS. AMD is killing it right now.
I would love to see you guys do some iTX testing. Over the last 12 years or so, every machine I've built has been smaller than the last. I don't think I'll ever build another ATX machine again and would love to see the HUB treatement on iTX boards.
That 240 AIO would drive me nuts looking at it, it resembles a fan that has stopped.
I have the same GSkill memory kit, using it with an Asus B650E-F Gaming mobo and a 7600X. The entire system is unstable when using the Expo2 profile but works flawlessly when the Expo profile is running. Just a tip for anybody using this RAM kit but having weird crashes while gaming.
I love your videos thanks for sharing and all the info is great so thank you
I love it when reviewers use the 65w parts. I've never used any of the high powered stuff as my needs aren't that great.
You are a Godsend Steve. We need more power supply reviews, case reviews, RAM reviews. There is just so much to choose from.
Just grabbed a new R5 7600 for $131 USD with a coupon from a retailer who had it on for $180. Kind of a lateral move from my 5700X, but may as well for that price since I have a B650 mobo kicking around for it anyway. Should go great with my RX 6800.
6 months after last black Friday and the new-build value pc has barely changed at all. Built a 7600x/6800xt/32gb@6000/750w/1tb Gen 4 machine in jonsbo d31 for a friend and it came out to just about $1200.
Zach's Tech Turf saves money on the PSU, case, and cooler and cuts the ssd to 1tb to upgrade the gpu to a 7900 GRE.
I think it makes sense to spend way less on the PSU, get a slightly cheaper motherboard and case, and get a $20 Thermalright tower cooler to fit a 7800XT into that budget. Also the 7500F is on AliExpress for like $130.
Funny you should post this Steve, because I was currently in the process of sourcing value components for making a budget price to performance build, and if I wasn't going ITX, this is what I would have selected. Ended up going for a minis forum AR900i that has a 13900HX in it, for $759. Integrated laptop CPU. Ended up being slightly cheaper with the same 32GB of ram then a 7600 build. But baller none the less. Great work on this video!
hey i was just wondering if this build or a build like this would be able to run rdr2 at high settings pretty decently,love the videos and thanks!
In today's video we learn the meaning of the word value, thanks Steve.
Great build video, very nice looking PC.
Most builders will go with an AIO over an air cooler for asthetics. They look a lot nicer.
It is always hard to make something like this. Prices varies in each country and also taxes. Here in germany we have 19% tax.
1200$ is ~1105€ or ~1310€ with tax ontop. For just 1379€ I get a 7800X3D with the best aircooler (PA120SE), 7900GRE or 4070, good B650 board (tested by you), 32GB 6000CL36 RAM, 2TB 4.0 NVME, good ATX 3.0 850W PSU and a 60-80€ case, like the Lian Li Dan A3 that is coming.
So yeah, I can get here a much better PC for almost the same money.
I got a 7700 XT a couple of weeks ago and im using a Ryzen 5 5600x, so im just trying to see what CPU, MB, RAM and PSU to use for an upgrade. Thank you for this video.
Stay with 5600x. It's enough for 7700xt
@@hristobotev9726 Thank you for the heads up, I'm loving it so far as my first AMD GPU. I upgraded from a GTX 1060 and Ryzen 5 1600.
Awesome best-value build! Most specially because this is not sponsored, so just your own best choices, precisely the best suggestions we can possibly get from HU. I will definitely revisit this video whenever I finally tackle my next build. Waiting those few weeks for those AMD announcements/releases, we'll see
the LFIII was crazy at launch, 50 quid sterling. had bought LFII 360 for 62 a few months earlier 😢😂
Thanks
Great build. Your fan config with the AIO is wrong tho - you need to pull air through the radiator not expell it - otherwise you wont have any airflow through the system.
No, it's fine and performance was great.
@@gamingunboxed5130 Its fine when you can draw air from the ventillation in the base.. but it can be tricky when there are power supply, modular cables, harddrives in there blocking it.. I run an AIO which is cooled by the case fans drawing air through the top vent only.. CPU never gets passed 50c. With a 4090 or a very high end cpu you need to make sure a decent amount of air is being drawn from outside though
Fun video, and good recommendations. Question: what RGB software do you use?
Looks awesome!
Got a link to that screwdriver 🪛 drill you used to build it? Thanks 🙏🏻
I remember making a pc for $300-$600, Canadian. It was a cheap gaming pc.
Great built!
Nice, I just finished off my 7600x build with a 7800xt(gigabyte, yes its loud)a gigabyte B650 DS3H,Fractal designs case and coolers,Gigabyte G32QC-A QHD, hopefully i get years of good gaming from it.
Hearing you guys talk about the ASRock MoBo makes me feel good since that was the exact MoBo I chose to go with for my recent build. Went with a 7600X CPU for now since it was on a great sale and came with 32GB of RAM free, but plan on upgrading to a x800X3D some time down the line on a future gen CPU that still uses AM5. Still needing to get a new GPU as I'm still using my 1070, but waiting on prices to drop or a good sale. Really want to grab an AMD GPU since they seem to be better value atm, but I "need" NVENC for streaming as I've not seen any real good mentioned for AMD in that regard.
I wouldn't pick either ASRock 7700 XT cards in Australia. The Challenger OC and Phantom Gaming OC are expensive at AUD702 and AUD872 respectively, according to PCPP at time of this post.
In comparison, the Saphhire PULSE, ASUS TUF Gaming OC, Powercolor Hellhound OC, Gigabyte Gaming OC, Sapphire Nitro+ and XFX Speedster QICK 319 BLACK are AUD599, AUD629, AUD649, AUD659, AUD659 and AUD697 respectively, again according to PCPP.
if I can choose the only two video cards I would look at is the Red Devil or the Nitro
The problem with pcpp is that it ignores a ton of shops. I wouldn't choose asus or gigabyte though, given how trash those companies are at this point in time.
@@MrSamadolfo Yep, Nitro+ all the way.
@@sergioav7278 Given ASUS's woes recently, I wouldn't either. And I've had two bad 6750 XTs from Gigabyte (horrendous coil whine and hotspot temps exceeding 100C) before I settled on an MSI Gaming X Trio. That said, not everyone has the luxury to reach for the better GPUs when they're on a budget, but it can be a roll of the dice whether you get a probably working GPU or not regardless of brand. Lastly, yes, PCPP doesn't take into consideration other shops and even eBay, but it's a good resource and my first port of call followed by staticice and then other shops not plugged into PCPP.
I would never recommend asrock worst pc part brand ever.
-Wow, that's a really good price for the SSD- Where are you getting that price for the SSD? Currently it's $149.99 at newegg and via 3rd party sellers on Amazon, and the last time it was close to $100 was five months ago
These types of videos are really helpful because, if I have $1000 to spend, I can compare my build to yours and see what I'm gaining/losing in $200.
Sir,I don't want to spend more on SSD, Should I can use 1 TB SSD here instead of TEAMGROUP CARDEA A440 is 2TB If your answer is yes then which 1TB SSD should i use?😊❤
Nice guide. Would go 7800XT/7900 GRE if there is extra budget.
Built the same exact PC for a friend, 1180$ with a RX6800 😊
definitely think its worth getting the 7800xt over the 7700xt for $50-100 extra. More vram and better performance. Can even play 1440p quite well with the 7800xt. If you wait for deals you can get it for considerably cheaper too, i bought the 7800xt for $400
definitely recommend buying used though! try win some of those eBay bids
Cmon guys you could definately manage a 7800xt in there in the same budget.
The cheapest 7800 XT is $100 more, if you want a 7800 XT just add $100 to the budget. It's not worth getting a much worse motherboard to save $20, much worse memory for another $20 and so on.
1:50 all newer 6 and 8core cpus give very similar results anyway and at higher resolutions there is no reason to get the high end cpus at all
🙂 the higher end cpus are meant for multitasking, this cpu is meant for one task
I mean you can build the same pc for 970 if you go with a cheaper case and no aio, r5 7600 doesn't really need that much cooling, my r5 7600 only reaches 70 Celsius under full load, and I use a basic rgb tower air cooler.
Brilliant informative video, you should definitely do more of these 👍🏻
Legion Tower 5 is currently on sale and for $1400 buys you 7700 and 4070 Super.
😒👍
Actually rare build on this channel where prices actually close to those in EU. 1300 euro aint that bad.
Just helped a friend buy a build like this, tho he got 7900 GRE.
No, the cheapest CPU model you should bother with is the 7500F. A great MOBO pick though. However, I would definitely go for the 4070S instead of the 7700XT and the FSP Hydro G PRO 850W or the Seasonic Focus GX 850 Gold instead of that Kolink PSP.
No 7500F?
Can't get it.
My build is R57600 + RX7600 for 1080p. Honestly this GPU is already overpowered for what my games are.
Could you explain more what you mean by Discrete MOSFET VS Power Stages, and is MSI typically providing poorer quality VRM systems?
Nice to see the use of Arctic´s cooling products.. They outperform all other AIO´s in temps and prices
I'd be curious to see a test of these AM5 motherboard to see how well some of them implement ECC where possible.
I'm more interested in maximizing stability at the cost of a little bit of performance personally, and have been trying to research how I could get a (proper) ECC setup out of the Ryzen platform, I'm told it's possible but support is patchy.
Would be an interesting topic to explore, and I haven't seen many do so.
Quality parts, can't go wrong with these.
I think the Thermalright peerless assassin would be the best cooler option it’s even cheaper at around $34. That said if you can get a last gen RX 6800 or RX 6800 XT it would be an even better value. Other than that would just fine. Build is decent overall.
should have a 7900 gre for that much, at least 7800xt even, anything less the last gen cards are so much better value like 6800 xt
Why are there no Australian links to purchase products from?
I almost cant fcking handle to wait for my 5090 + 7800x3D (or maybe 9800x3D if that one gets released around the same time as the 5090) lol
currently have an i7 3770 + GTX 1070 + 16GB Ram PC. This CPU is like 10+ years old or so lmao
this will be the biggest step up of step ups. Will also go from my current 27" 1080p60 monitor to a 32" 240hz 4k OLED to give my 5090 something to drive.
really cant explain how excited I am... I never really had a PC where I can put everything on max, use RT, PT, DLSS, Ray Reconstruction and all that on very high refresh rate in 4k resolution on an amazing OLED display. Man this will be glorious. I think end of this year will be the time the 5090 is out but I hope it will be sooner than that.
I thought about pre buiding my pc with everything BUT the GPU already and use my 1070 until the 5090 gets released. But not sure about that. I will wait for Computex, hopefully AMD says the 9800x3D gets released this year as well. Until then Im using Geforce Now cloud gaming, this works extremely good even on my 4k tv, looks and plays awesome. But playing stuff natively on a better monitor will be something else.
Please make video about understanding VRMs.
Want 7600 upgrade with my 7900xt but just found ebay new 5700x3d for $193us shipped. Upgrade my son to 5800x with 6800xt.
I just used the Phanteks XT Pro Ultra for my build, don't get me wrong I absolutely love it, but if I could have I would have gotten the XT View. The four M25 140mm DRGB fans coupled with the ample build room made it great for a first build. Although, I dumped about $1,000 more into my system (and that was with parts on sale). MSI X670E Gaming Plus - WiFi, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, almost the same RAM but the RGB version, MSI Spatium M480 Pro 2TB Gen 4.0 x4 (7400/7000 read/write), MSI Core Liquid E360 AIO, and powered by 2024 release of the Thermaltake GF1 850w 80+ Gold PSU, and the GPU is the behemoth Zotac RTX 4070Ti Super which just under 360mm long. I don't plan on needing to upgrade anything for a few years lol. The only thing I will do now is install a Razer Chroma lighting controller because having my case fans on one ARGB header and then the 3 radiator fans, pump head, and ARGB support bracket share the other one results in some piss-poor and severely disappointing results.
MSI AIO have a high failure rate, install Core Temp and add it to your taskbar, it should be idling in the 30s to 40s, once you start to see 50s its time to replace the cooler
It looks like arctic freezer 36 is basically on par with wraith prism to me.
You should do some more of those kind of vids guys 🤩🙏🏼
What about the 7500f?
Sure if you can find it
@Hardwareunboxed The main issue is you don't get an iGPU for diagnostic use. That may be fine for some people though.