Thank you, Chuck for your consistently clarifying services in your show. How about an entire show on where to find boarded Lifestyle Medicine MDs who can be our inspirational coaches? Remotely or in person noting their fees, and degree of insurance and Medicare participation.
I saw first hand how people with heart disease transformed by going vegan. Some told me they saw huge improvements in just a couple of weeks! I used to volunteer for Challenge 22+ to mentor folks transition to vegan. Many also said they didn't miss non-vegan food like they thought they would after the 22-day program. I came across studies showing what people like to eat depends on their gut bacteria. So if people change their gut bacteria by starving the meat-egg-dairy-loving ones, and promoting the plant-loving one, I suppose that could explain why they don't miss the old food after a while.
Thank you so much Chuck, Dr Barnard and the Gregory J Reiter Memorial Fund for being a ray of sunshine, educating us and creating this wonderful, healthy and kind community. I wish all your viewers a good week.
It was so frustrating last week to have a consultation with a new doctor who was so uneducated regarding a plant based diet, soy is bad, you can’t get all your nutritional needs on a plant based diet, you need fish for the omegas. It’s so hard to find a good doctor who understands the benefits of a plant based diet on heart heart and health in general.
Went full blown FOK / vegan 6 years ago and 3 years in had a heart attack 3 days after bicycling 185 miles on the C & O Canal the week before. Still eating WFPB but on meds also trying to save my life.
I agree that the AHA’s comments regarding B12 deficiencies are a red herring since most vegans also know to take a supplement (my doctor told me to cut way back for a while since my levels were off the charts). I also think their rankings and comments regarding vegan diets contradict their own guidelines that suggest plant based proteins are top of the list for healthy proteins -above fish or chicken. But once you get past these, I’m a bit concerned that there seems to be a dearth of scientific studies regarding the appropriate amounts of healthy fats in a WFPB diet, OTHER THAN creating a calorie deficit for the specific purpose of weight loss. Are there studies that show that changing ONLY the amount of healthy fat in a WFPB diet (while not creating a calorie deficit) has other health benefits, like with CVD, cancers, etc?
Are you eating oil-free and low in fat? Lots of foods you wouldn't expect have added oils (bread, peanut butter, plant based milks, etc.) Also, too many nuts, seeds, coconut, or avocado can make it difficult to treat high cholesterol. If someone is having difficulty treating their cholesterol, it's a common approach to cut out all fat sources completely (except a tablespoon of flaxseeds a day for omega-3s). I hope this helps!
Yes, it's possible. If diet doesn't help enough, you probably need medication. Your cholesterol metabolism may be off. However, it could also be that you're not eating enough beans yet. Aim at daily!
If u eat a lot of flour products, honey, maple syrup, juices, alcohol it raises tryglycerides. Avocados, olives , nuts, nut butters & seeds , coconut will raise cholesterol,
The American Heart Association should NOT accept food industry funding, this is completely unethical and will harm so many people. I grew up in Italy and I can tell you that the Mediterranean diet my family ate in moderation (so smallish portions and far less olive oil than people eat these days) led to most people becoming overweight, especially from their mid-30s onwards, and it was normal for older people to be fat, though not obese as is common now. I grew up in the 70s and I have recently seen some street life videos shot in Southern Italy and I was shocked by the number of severely obese local people I saw - so much for the Mediterranean diet keeping you slim & healthy. The current Mediterranean diet coupled with American-style burger & fried chicken places is well and truly causing an obesity pandemic in Italy and other Mediterranean countries too, they are a few years behind the US but getting there in terms of obesity.
I started plant based diet last September. But because I do not eat meat so I have to eat more whole grain bread and noodles with high carbs to not feel hungry. But my alt and sat levels on live panel are increased. What should I do?
First of all, a WFPB diet is not a 'vegan' diet. I wear leather, so I am not a vegan. I have been on a WFPB diet since the mid 90's. It is very easy to gain weight on this diet. You still have to control the amount you eat and what you eat. No one on a WFPB diet is just eating green leaves. There are many foods such as nuts, seeds, beans, starchy vegetables, avocados and others that will easily balloon your weight if your eating more calories than you need. It is very easy to do so. It is tiring to keep on hearing 'you don't have to count calories' from people who eat modest amounts of food and then claim they don't count calories. Of course they don't "count" calories if they select lower calorie choices and smaller portions. With experience you don't have to put your food on a scale to know if your over indulging. Regardless, if you are weighing your food, using chronometer or just eyeballing the portions, you are judging calories to maintain a normal BMI. Stop the Bulls^^^t.
If you don’t have enough NaCl (salt) you can’t digest your food properly. Salt is where we get the chloride for our stomach acid. The RDI for chloride is 3000 mg. This is a teaspoon of salt a day. Don’t skimp on the salt too much.
Most green plants are low in oxalates, aside from spinach, beet greens, and chard. Not to mention, oxalates aren't an issue if you don't have a medical condition that's affected by them (kidney stones, interstitial cystitis, Crohn's disease of the small intestine, etc.) Lettuce, arugula, kale, cabbage, collards, peas, green beans, Lima beans, those are all low in oxalates. Broccoli is low-to-medium in oxalates. I'm speaking as someone who has interstitial cystitis and Crohn's of the small intestine and was told by my doctor to eat a low oxalate diet. I was referred to a dietitian and everything. Don't believe the misinformation about oxalates you'll read online.
There is plenty of evidence that even what feels like extreme amounts of greens, still has health benefits. Obviously you should not eat only greens, but for most people the oxalates aren't an area of concern. Kidney stone formers are an exception. However, even they should eat some greens daily. In other words: more than they do right now.
Not all greens are excessively high in oxalates. Personally, I drastically limit spinach, chard and beet greens as these are the quite high. Otherwise, the sky's the limit for me. I'm drinking an arugula/wild blueberry smoothie as I type.
We diet to be healthy, not lose weight! Although in the US weight loss is probably a priority. Funny that when I was a kid, American tourists would visit my country, and we’d say “here come the fat Americans”. The obesity red flag was raised many years ago. We never said “Americans”, we said “fat Americans”. Kids call it as it is.
I switched to plant based diet but just wanted to add that the Mediterranean diet is very little seafood, especially fish. Some dont even eat more than once a week. Also Chia seeds need to be soaked in water for at least a few hours other wise it will obstruct your bowels. Painful personal experience. Just in case anyone needs to know.
As someone with POTS, I very much can empathize. Not sure if you would like advice, but I figured I'd share what has worked for me. Some things that have helped me are keeping a microwave by my bed along with an electric water kettle and making oatmeal and pasta in the microwave. For the oatmeal, I use 1.5 cups rolled oats, 2-3 single serving applesauce containers (unsweetened), and maybe some frozen blueberries if I have the energy to get to the freezer. First, I boil some water in the kettle and cover the oats with the water. Then I let it sit for 5 minutes to cook and afterwards add my applesauce (2 servings if I'm adding blueberries, 3 servings if I'm not). Then microwave for one minute, stir, microwave for another minute, stir, and wait for it to cool. That's breakfast for me most days. You don't have to stir if you are using a deep bowl. (Stirring just helps prevent it spilling over). Another variation I do if I can get ahold of date sugar is this: 1.5 cups rolled oats, 1 can pumpkin purée or sweet potato purée, 3 tablespoons date sugar, pumpkin pie spice, and 0.5 cups walnuts. Basically the same instructions, just add the mix-ins 5 minutes after adding the boiled water to the oats. The only exception is the walnuts (or any nut you'd like to add). I add those in with the oats before the water. I just make the oatmeal while I'm in bed. Snacks are often freeze-dried fruits, apples, bananas, dates, or nuts. For lunches/dinners, depending on what ingredients I have or the energy I have, I either make salads, chickpea pasta in the microwave, or eat a couple cans of beans (ones with sea salt are typically low sodium if that's a concern for you!) I eat the canned beans on their own with just a bit of apple cider vinegar and spices if I have absolutely no energy. I keep a can opener by my bed along with my go-to spices, canned beans, all my oatmeal ingredients, and really anything shelf stable. With the beans, I often just eat them straight out of the can using disposable cutlery. If I have a bit more energy, I use a microwave pasta bowl, which is just a glorified microwave-safe bowl with a vented lid. I boil some water in my water kettle, pour my pasta in my bowl, pour enough water on the pasta to cover it, and let it sit for 5 minutes with the lid on. Depending on the amount of energy I have, I'll grab frozen veggies from the freezer and put those in with the pasta before adding water. Because the bowl I use has a drain on the lid, I can just bring my pasta bowl to the sink and flip it over to drain, no collander needed. Then I'll add cider vinegar and seasonings. I typically use chickpea pasta for protein. If I have enough energy along with pre-chopped veggies in the fridge, I'll make a salad with some combination of apples, cucumbers, carrots, shredded cabbage, bell peppers, red onions, and canned beans (the beans being the only thing I include in the salad every time). I dress it with cider vinegar, a bit of sunflower seed butter, and some water to thin it out. I typically can't eat food cooked in advance due to MCAS, but if that's an option for you, cooking big batches of soup or chili can be helpful. You can cook a huge amount to last you around a week, or double or triple that if you store it and the freezer and have space. With soup, I tend to just add a bunch of frozen vegetables, canned or dried beans, possibly tomato sauce, and whatever spices I feel like match the veggies. You can also add grains or pasta. If not using salt, I add a tablespoon of some sort of vinegar to my bowl when serving. You don't need to use vegetable broth or worry about making your own; any water in there ends up getting flavored like broth when cooking. Frozen vegetables do release water so you don't have to add any yourself, although you can if you prefer. I like using frozen carrots and the bags of frozen bell peppers and onions so I don't have to worry about chopping up aromatics. You can really just throw everything in a pot and then leave it on the stove to cook. Very little active cooking time.
Hi Anne, I have had ME since 2000, you can make very simple meals, e.g. microwave (sweet) potatoes & broccoli (or other veggie, canned or frozen is easier because they're already washed and chopped and cheaper too). You can buy pre-cooked brown rice with only a negligible amount of oil from most supermarkets and it microwaves in 2 minutes. Make a big batch of soup to last all week, it's easier than you think once you get into a routine, just chick veggies together, maybe add lentils or other legumes. You can buy pre-chopped garlic (TAJ brand, available in most supermarkets and very cheap, freezer section but you can keep it in the fridge) and pre-chopped onions too. You can make it really simple and it can be quite enjoyable to make simple meals, turn on the radio or some music, make more than one portion so you always have something healthy already prepared. If you are absolutely stuck without food open a can of beans and microwave a couple of potatoes, add some spinach or other green, it's quick and easy and cheap.
I cannot attend the Conference but could someone ask Dr. Ornish about the impact of AI on Alzheimers. Since humans will use their brains less as AI systems do more of the thinking, will dementia cases increase?
If vegans would preach nutrition facts and science and quit the animal rights stuff the diet would go over better than it does now . The average person is against PETA no matter what . Stick with facts and quit the politics. Just advice from an average man .
vegan diets are nutrient deficient. B12, MK4, and others. Clean fatty animal foods and veg maybe fruit diet is best. The grains and processed food corps, petro oil industries, and medical/pharma fields all have a conflict of interest to promote this plant based diet mis info. Bill gates want meat and dairy to be fed to third world and 1st world are fed grain based sludge diet
Thank you, Chuck for your consistently clarifying services in your show. How about an entire show on where to find boarded Lifestyle Medicine MDs who can be our inspirational coaches? Remotely or in person noting their fees, and degree of insurance and Medicare participation.
I saw first hand how people with heart disease transformed by going vegan. Some told me they saw huge improvements in just a couple of weeks! I used to volunteer for Challenge 22+ to mentor folks transition to vegan. Many also said they didn't miss non-vegan food like they thought they would after the 22-day program.
I came across studies showing what people like to eat depends on their gut bacteria. So if people change their gut bacteria by starving the meat-egg-dairy-loving ones, and promoting the plant-loving one, I suppose that could explain why they don't miss the old food after a while.
It also partly explains why going all out is easier for many people.
Dr. Barnard is a testament to a vegan diet. He looks so healthy and amazing. Seventy years old in July.
Hey Chuck! Great to see ya Dr. Barnard. Always learning and so appreciative of you both. 😉🌱🤙🏽Aloha and mahalo. 🌺👌🏽
Thank you so much Chuck, Dr Barnard and the Gregory J Reiter Memorial Fund for being a ray of sunshine, educating us and creating this wonderful, healthy and kind community. I wish all your viewers a good week.
It was so frustrating last week to have a consultation with a new doctor who was so uneducated regarding a plant based diet, soy is bad, you can’t get all your nutritional needs on a plant based diet, you need fish for the omegas. It’s so hard to find a good doctor who understands the benefits of a plant based diet on heart heart and health in general.
As always, I enjoyed your show. Thanks to both of you.
As always thank you for your wonderful information and encouragement.
i love these amazing doctors that tell the TRUTH
Went full blown FOK / vegan 6 years ago and 3 years in had a heart attack 3 days after bicycling 185 miles on the C & O Canal the week before. Still eating WFPB but on meds also trying to save my life.
How did you still get a heart attack if you were eating well and exercising? Was stress a factor?
@@Silver6533 Not stress related. Never been fat and have been an avid cyclist for 20 years. Bad jenes I guess.
Always grateful for your info 🌱☀️🌵👍❣️
when do the live shows come on the air?
You need some new books behind you. Seeing two copies of Fiber Fueled for months on end gets old. ;)
One is the cookbook and one is the original. Always support those who support us, including Dr. Bulsiewicz.
I agree that the AHA’s comments regarding B12 deficiencies are a red herring since most vegans also know to take a supplement (my doctor told me to cut way back for a while since my levels were off the charts). I also think their rankings and comments regarding vegan diets contradict their own guidelines that suggest plant based proteins are top of the list for healthy proteins -above fish or chicken. But once you get past these, I’m a bit concerned that there seems to be a dearth of scientific studies regarding the appropriate amounts of healthy fats in a WFPB diet, OTHER THAN creating a calorie deficit for the specific purpose of weight loss. Are there studies that show that changing ONLY the amount of healthy fat in a WFPB diet (while not creating a calorie deficit) has other health benefits, like with CVD, cancers, etc?
Is it still possible to have high cholesterol and ldl levels if following a plant based diet/no vegan junk food? My numbers are still off.:/
this is addressed by Dr Caldwell Esselstyn in this recent excellent interview by Gustavo Toloso ua-cam.com/video/Or5uiAMznxo/v-deo.html
Are you eating oil-free and low in fat? Lots of foods you wouldn't expect have added oils (bread, peanut butter, plant based milks, etc.) Also, too many nuts, seeds, coconut, or avocado can make it difficult to treat high cholesterol.
If someone is having difficulty treating their cholesterol, it's a common approach to cut out all fat sources completely (except a tablespoon of flaxseeds a day for omega-3s).
I hope this helps!
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Yes, it's possible. If diet doesn't help enough, you probably need medication. Your cholesterol metabolism may be off. However, it could also be that you're not eating enough beans yet. Aim at daily!
If u eat a lot of flour products, honey, maple syrup, juices, alcohol it raises tryglycerides. Avocados, olives , nuts, nut butters & seeds , coconut will raise cholesterol,
The American Heart Association should NOT accept food industry funding, this is completely unethical and will harm so many people. I grew up in Italy and I can tell you that the Mediterranean diet my family ate in moderation (so smallish portions and far less olive oil than people eat these days) led to most people becoming overweight, especially from their mid-30s onwards, and it was normal for older people to be fat, though not obese as is common now. I grew up in the 70s and I have recently seen some street life videos shot in Southern Italy and I was shocked by the number of severely obese local people I saw - so much for the Mediterranean diet keeping you slim & healthy. The current Mediterranean diet coupled with American-style burger & fried chicken places is well and truly causing an obesity pandemic in Italy and other Mediterranean countries too, they are a few years behind the US but getting there in terms of obesity.
Italy #1 for child obesity!
Dr. Esselstyn said eating nuts can cause cholesterol to increase. He said it in a recent video w Gustavo.
Yes, it will increase the healthy cholesterol: hdl.
Dr. Esser said it too on Chef A.J. video the other day.
I started plant based diet last September. But because I do not eat meat so I have to eat more whole grain bread and noodles with high carbs to not feel hungry. But my alt and sat levels on live panel are increased. What should I do?
Best information we need to know .thank you
First of all, a WFPB diet is not a 'vegan' diet. I wear leather, so I am not a vegan.
I have been on a WFPB diet since the mid 90's. It is very easy to gain weight on this diet. You still have to control the amount you eat and what you eat. No one on a WFPB diet is just eating green leaves. There are many foods such as nuts, seeds, beans, starchy vegetables, avocados and others that will easily balloon your weight if your eating more calories than you need. It is very easy to do so.
It is tiring to keep on hearing 'you don't have to count calories' from people who eat modest amounts of food and then claim they don't count calories. Of course they don't "count" calories if they select lower calorie choices and smaller portions. With experience you don't have to put your food on a scale to know if your over indulging.
Regardless, if you are weighing your food, using chronometer or just eyeballing the portions, you are judging calories to maintain a normal BMI. Stop the Bulls^^^t.
You are 100% correct. It’s way easier to put on weight on this diet.
I cut grains, bean, legumes, and nearly all processed foods for 6 months combined with fasting. Never felt better. down 70lb
If you don’t have enough NaCl (salt) you can’t digest your food properly. Salt is where we get the chloride for our stomach acid. The RDI for chloride is 3000 mg. This is a teaspoon of salt a day. Don’t skimp on the salt too much.
What about the effects of oxilates on the body with a diet heavy in primarily green plants?
Most green plants are low in oxalates, aside from spinach, beet greens, and chard. Not to mention, oxalates aren't an issue if you don't have a medical condition that's affected by them (kidney stones, interstitial cystitis, Crohn's disease of the small intestine, etc.) Lettuce, arugula, kale, cabbage, collards, peas, green beans, Lima beans, those are all low in oxalates. Broccoli is low-to-medium in oxalates.
I'm speaking as someone who has interstitial cystitis and Crohn's of the small intestine and was told by my doctor to eat a low oxalate diet. I was referred to a dietitian and everything. Don't believe the misinformation about oxalates you'll read online.
There is plenty of evidence that even what feels like extreme amounts of greens, still has health benefits. Obviously you should not eat only greens, but for most people the oxalates aren't an area of concern. Kidney stone formers are an exception. However, even they should eat some greens daily. In other words: more than they do right now.
Not all greens are excessively high in oxalates. Personally, I drastically limit spinach, chard and beet greens as these are the quite high. Otherwise, the sky's the limit for me. I'm drinking an arugula/wild blueberry smoothie as I type.
We diet to be healthy, not lose weight! Although in the US weight loss is probably a priority. Funny that when I was a kid, American tourists would visit my country, and we’d say “here come the fat Americans”. The obesity red flag was raised many years ago. We never said “Americans”, we said “fat Americans”. Kids call it as it is.
I switched to plant based diet but just wanted to add that the Mediterranean diet is very little seafood, especially fish. Some dont even eat more than once a week.
Also Chia seeds need to be soaked in water for at least a few hours other wise it will obstruct your bowels. Painful personal experience. Just in case anyone needs to know.
I have fibromyalgia and I’m always tired, I’m too tired to make myself proper meals.
As someone with POTS, I very much can empathize. Not sure if you would like advice, but I figured I'd share what has worked for me.
Some things that have helped me are keeping a microwave by my bed along with an electric water kettle and making oatmeal and pasta in the microwave.
For the oatmeal, I use 1.5 cups rolled oats, 2-3 single serving applesauce containers (unsweetened), and maybe some frozen blueberries if I have the energy to get to the freezer. First, I boil some water in the kettle and cover the oats with the water. Then I let it sit for 5 minutes to cook and afterwards add my applesauce (2 servings if I'm adding blueberries, 3 servings if I'm not). Then microwave for one minute, stir, microwave for another minute, stir, and wait for it to cool. That's breakfast for me most days. You don't have to stir if you are using a deep bowl. (Stirring just helps prevent it spilling over).
Another variation I do if I can get ahold of date sugar is this: 1.5 cups rolled oats, 1 can pumpkin purée or sweet potato purée, 3 tablespoons date sugar, pumpkin pie spice, and 0.5 cups walnuts. Basically the same instructions, just add the mix-ins 5 minutes after adding the boiled water to the oats. The only exception is the walnuts (or any nut you'd like to add). I add those in with the oats before the water.
I just make the oatmeal while I'm in bed.
Snacks are often freeze-dried fruits, apples, bananas, dates, or nuts.
For lunches/dinners, depending on what ingredients I have or the energy I have, I either make salads, chickpea pasta in the microwave, or eat a couple cans of beans (ones with sea salt are typically low sodium if that's a concern for you!)
I eat the canned beans on their own with just a bit of apple cider vinegar and spices if I have absolutely no energy. I keep a can opener by my bed along with my go-to spices, canned beans, all my oatmeal ingredients, and really anything shelf stable. With the beans, I often just eat them straight out of the can using disposable cutlery.
If I have a bit more energy, I use a microwave pasta bowl, which is just a glorified microwave-safe bowl with a vented lid. I boil some water in my water kettle, pour my pasta in my bowl, pour enough water on the pasta to cover it, and let it sit for 5 minutes with the lid on. Depending on the amount of energy I have, I'll grab frozen veggies from the freezer and put those in with the pasta before adding water. Because the bowl I use has a drain on the lid, I can just bring my pasta bowl to the sink and flip it over to drain, no collander needed. Then I'll add cider vinegar and seasonings. I typically use chickpea pasta for protein.
If I have enough energy along with pre-chopped veggies in the fridge, I'll make a salad with some combination of apples, cucumbers, carrots, shredded cabbage, bell peppers, red onions, and canned beans (the beans being the only thing I include in the salad every time). I dress it with cider vinegar, a bit of sunflower seed butter, and some water to thin it out.
I typically can't eat food cooked in advance due to MCAS, but if that's an option for you, cooking big batches of soup or chili can be helpful. You can cook a huge amount to last you around a week, or double or triple that if you store it and the freezer and have space.
With soup, I tend to just add a bunch of frozen vegetables, canned or dried beans, possibly tomato sauce, and whatever spices I feel like match the veggies. You can also add grains or pasta. If not using salt, I add a tablespoon of some sort of vinegar to my bowl when serving. You don't need to use vegetable broth or worry about making your own; any water in there ends up getting flavored like broth when cooking. Frozen vegetables do release water so you don't have to add any yourself, although you can if you prefer. I like using frozen carrots and the bags of frozen bell peppers and onions so I don't have to worry about chopping up aromatics. You can really just throw everything in a pot and then leave it on the stove to cook. Very little active cooking time.
Hi Anne, I have had ME since 2000, you can make very simple meals, e.g. microwave (sweet) potatoes & broccoli (or other veggie, canned or frozen is easier because they're already washed and chopped and cheaper too). You can buy pre-cooked brown rice with only a negligible amount of oil from most supermarkets and it microwaves in 2 minutes. Make a big batch of soup to last all week, it's easier than you think once you get into a routine, just chick veggies together, maybe add lentils or other legumes. You can buy pre-chopped garlic (TAJ brand, available in most supermarkets and very cheap, freezer section but you can keep it in the fridge) and pre-chopped onions too. You can make it really simple and it can be quite enjoyable to make simple meals, turn on the radio or some music, make more than one portion so you always have something healthy already prepared. If you are absolutely stuck without food open a can of beans and microwave a couple of potatoes, add some spinach or other green, it's quick and easy and cheap.
What is the health difference between soy sauce and Bragg’s liquid aminos?
Liquid aminos have far less salt.
Dr. Braggs liquid aminos taste like a meaty soy sauce. It's not pugnant & strong like soy sauce
Recently two people have told me that they heard oatmeal is bad for you. I have not seen or heard anything about this ???
You've not heard anything about that because it isn't true.
One of the meat only keto guys has been saying this lately.
Love you guys! 💜🥦🤩
eating a vegan diet can be a cuase for stima....peer pressure associated with the eating time, might be difficult on digestion.
It would be nice if you could turn up Dr Barnhard's volume and dampen Chuck Carol's a bit. The mismatch makes the video hard to listen to.
I cannot attend the Conference but could someone ask Dr. Ornish about the impact of AI on Alzheimers. Since humans will use their brains less as AI systems do more of the thinking, will dementia cases increase?
Why does he always say "Keep oils low" ? instead of omitting them altogether !
I was a fat vegan following his advice !
TY Did you see what WHO just said about diet, sham on them.
The Mediterranean diet lowers blood pressure, notice he didn’t say that…that’s the point Doc, don’t be so dismissive of it…
He has addressed it in other podcasts.
Lowered blood pressure compared to what they were eating previously that was causing a higher #.
😂
If vegans would preach nutrition facts and science and quit the animal rights stuff the diet would go over better than it does now . The average person is against PETA no matter what . Stick with facts and quit the politics. Just advice from an average man .
vegan diets are nutrient deficient. B12, MK4, and others. Clean fatty animal foods and veg maybe fruit diet is best. The grains and processed food corps, petro oil industries, and medical/pharma fields all have a conflict of interest to promote this plant based diet mis info. Bill gates want meat and dairy to be fed to third world and 1st world are fed grain based sludge diet