What we’re getting WRONG about metabolic health & weight: Robert Lustig, M.D. | mbg Podcast
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2023
- Robert Lustig, M.D.: “The fat in the organs, the fat in the liver, the fat in the muscles that you can't measure by standing on a scale-it's the fat you can't see that makes all the difference.”
Lustig, a pediatric neuroendocrinologist and New York Times bestselling author, joins mbg co-CEO, Jason Wachob, to discuss how to actually know if you're metabolically healthy, plus:
- What you need to know about nutrition labels
- Why obesity is a red herring when it comes to metabolic health
- The truth about alternative flours
- Why treating chronic diseases is not “draggable” but “foodable”
- Why you should always protect the liver & feed the gut
Note: this episode was recorded in May 2021
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Dr. Lustig doesn't know everything. What he doesn't know is 3 years ago after a not so good doctors appointment about my high blood pressure, overweight, fatty liver and sky high triglycerides I turned to UA-cam for information and ran across his first video on sugar. It was so mind boggling I kept going to other videos he spoke on and made all of the changes he recommended. Before 12 months past I dropped 52 pounds, stopped taking 7 medications, 4 which were prescription and had that 20 year old feeling again at the age of 61. I would love to tell him thank you and hope he reads this post. I consider myself an educated person but I was so dumb in all this health and nutrition stuff. I am also a little upset I had to go to UA-cam to learn this while going for physicals every 6 months with my PCP that only threw a pill at a symptom instead of how to totally avoid that symptom through diet. BP averages 125/65, triglycerides went from 388 to 44, triglyceride divide by HDL= 0.38 and I take nothing now.
Congrats on that incredible health transformation!! Hope he reads this too.
Good job. It's sad that most people are not educated on health and nutrition stuff and most physicians have no clue as to how to properly treat metabolic syndromes. Millions of people are still suffering from metabolic syndromes with poor diets. Physicians would make a lot less money if 80% of the population quits standard American diet.
When I discovered 75% of all healthcare expenses go to treat metabolic disease that is preventable with proper education it really hit me because I'm paying around $1,000 per month for healthcare insurance for me and my wife only. I can't judge other people because I was totally ignorant about it for a long time.@@AF573
Same here. 👍🏻
Congrats on the stunning improvement in your blood work. Just curious what was your doctors reaction
Lustig deserves a Nobil Prize. He is clever and honest..
Nobel prize
He’s an egomaniac. He used to be a doctor now he’s just a huckster.
Nobil?😂😂..it's nobel
❤ Dr. Lustig!
He is a noble genuine doctor @@ramzisunilabdullah696
I now have not bought any processed boxed, canned or bagged food in 489 days. My health has improved exponentially and eating only meat has saved me tons of money and I NEVER have things molding or rotting in my refrigerator. NO more waste. Sugar withdrawal was not fun but after 2 weeks, I felt so much better. I will now have a much greater chance to live to my goal of the Normal healthy human lifespan of 120 plus years. ❤
There are pescatarian, ovo lacto vegetarian, vegan and omnivore centenarians but to this day not a single carnivore human on this planet has reached 100. You might want to consider this as you wish to be a guinea pig. Lustig has never recommended your diet.
bullish t
I always wondered that meat has toxins in its blood which never made it to the liver at the moment the creature was slaughtered. I think we eat toxins whenever we eat meat
Personally I will stick to goals I can control. Who knows how long I might live…? 🤔
lol! And we all were Duped by the ‘ Normal American diet’. We were set up for years to Fatten Pharma… The junk we eat! Chips : Donuts : Begals : White bread!! I mean all : Lethal
Every time I listen to Dr. Lustig, I marvel at his brain power. He’s got to be one of the smartest health practitioners on You Tube. Thanks Dr. Lustig!!
Right? Brilliance, hard work and 40+ years of lab and clinical research combined with true compassion will do that.
Dr. Lustig is absolutely awesome. He’s all about data, facts, stats. He has no hidden agenda and truly wants to help people, especially children. Thanks Dr. Lustig 🙏❤️🙏
Nonsense
Add to that an impressive 40 yr. history of research and clinical work.
Bull
😊p@@sharinaross1865
Agreed. I just think he’s wrong about fiber.
I started following Dr Lustigs work 14 years ago back when it was still in a small corner of the internet. So good to see his work get out to a much larger audience over the years. He knows his stuff.
That Sugar: The Bitter Truth talk was/is seminal.
Finally someone telling the truth! This is not new for me! My mother is 85 years old and she doesn’t suffer with any kind of health issue. She is a very active woman working in her garden every day and eating from it. Everything she consumes is 100% natural, she doesn’t eats a lot of sugar but she eats a lot of veggies and fruits from her orchard and she is even healthier than her children living in cities! That’s a fact! She always say exactly all these principles to us!
Pretty sad that only a few of us are even reading this important fact about your mom
Dr. Lustiq doesn't mince his words. He just lists the good, the bad and nothing in between. The hallmark of an effective medical scientist. Thank you to the host too.
Every time I listen to your podcast, I loose appetite to eat. I am grateful to have you in UA-cam
Just start eating the good foods!
Many thanks to Robert Lustig for making sure that we now know better again what healthy food is and what really makes us ill. Here in Germany, his work continues to spread and I expect that sugar will finally be branded in five years' time.
I don't know of any work that should be more important for our civilization than his work. I personally have found even more physical and mental health through him. I bow to his work. Thank you very much.
Thank you!! Now I understand what has been going on with me all these 75 years! I got the answers today! God Bless I can now make the changes to help all my issues!!! At 75 I can do these changes! Jan
Yes.Beggining a new greater chapter in your life. Aim for 100!🎉😂❤😊.
If you lived to 75, you made good choices this far, be careful of new diets that may cause harm
You go guy
I am very grateful for your work Doctor Lustig. You saved my life ❤
Lustig is great. He really knows his stuff. Someone has to get out there in front. You can see how this frustrates him (the organizations that keep doing things the current way).
don’t listen to this conspiracy theorist. just shut your mouth and follow whatever dr. fauci, the FDA, and CDC tell you. lol.
It's all by design to keep you spending on SICKcare . Sad. America sold out . $$$$$$.
I just love you doc. Thank you so much for educating me. As a mom and wife all I want is my family to be healthy and have faith in God.❤
This is the best video I have seen in a long time on why we should eat really foods and the reason behind it. Dr. Lustig is amazing!
Much love and respect for Dr Robert Lustig! His book metabolical is a must read!
Indeed. I first listened to it and had to get the text for referening the deeper material in a couple of chapters.
I've also been buying copies for friends who will benefit.
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I’ve just ordered it! Can’t wait!
I love listening to Dr. Lustig.❤
such a great interview! Thank you!
His book was a game changer in the way that I now eat and think about food. Bought the book for my family. Thank you ❤ for your dedication in helping people live longer without disease. Like me 😅
Dr Lusting,
Thank you so much ❤
I owe to Dr. Lustig the knowledge that sugar drives up cholesterol and triglycerides. Incredibly, I have been taking Annual Physical exams at one of the most reputable clinics in a major city, and no one dared to explain to me correctly how to reduce cholesterol other than "reduce red meat consumption and exercise". His videos inspired me to do research, and I decided to cut all processed foods and all added sugar. I also went further and moved to a whole-foods, plant-dominant diet. Per his recommendation, I avoid fructose like the plague, except in natural fruit form. I took LDL down from 160 to 90 with diet alone, then added a low-dose statin and I am now at 62. Blood pressure came down from 135/85 to 118/73. My ability/energy to exercise came back at age 51. I now exercise 5 times per week, instead of 1.
You should know that he does NOT recommend statins for primary prevention, and, frankly, 62 is extremely low. They have only recently lowered the arbitrary number so they can get more people taking this dangerous drug for life, and now they can justify putting children on it for life, too. LDL is not the problem, they have only glommed onto saying that it is because they came up with a pill for it. It is not a MAKER of disease and is a very poor MARKER of disease. It has a very necessary function in the body. And lipoproteins are not cholesterol. They are like taxis for cholesterol and fatty acids that get them into the cells so they can do their work. There is only one cholesterol molecule, it's in every cell wall and is a large percentage of our brains. This is why a side effect of statins is muscle pain and memory issues. In order to reduce the number you're killing cells. If you could snap your fingers and have all the cholesterol leave your body you would immediately drop dead. It's critical to many other pathways as well, like making hormones. Kinda sounds important, right? I recommend looking into Ancel Keys to learn how we got to demonizing a life critical molecule, especially when there was a competing theory at the time that said sugar was the problem. Hm, how has that worked out for us?
Statins cause alzheimers!! Our liver makes cholesterol because our brains feed on cholesterol. They want us sicker!!!!
This is going on my YT list.
I go back and listen to these and share lists with others.
Each and every sentence made so much sense. Thank you.
I find it hilarious that an ad for Kit-Kat chocolate wafers pops up during an intense presentation of how bad sugar is for us 😅😂😅😂
Great interview , Thankyou . You asked really important questions .
States following Dr Lustig a week ago .
Info I needed .
Dive into cortisol , if out of wak is just as bad as Suger .
Wow! More of a real nutritional education than I anticipated! Thank you!🙏🏽
I am incorporating his truths that chronic diseases are not “druggable” but are “foodable” into my thinking and vocabulary!
Lustig mentions that ALT (fatty liver) normal range has been adjusted upward (normal range is set way too high). So I checked my records. Labs "normal range" will vary. The lab my Dr. uses is Quest; and they still use the traditional 6 to 29 range. Really appreciate when hosts/guests in these videos help us decipher lab results. Thank you.
My results show an upper of 50 😢 I'm at 41
Thank you for helping me❤
This is a powerful podcast. Very informative and high quality information. Thank you.
Good presentation 👍👍
Informative video ♥
Thank you for this.
Really great interview!
Dr. Lustig is amazing. Thank you both.
Thanks for the video
Dr. Lustily is amazing. I am so thankful for his knowledge.
Thank you for the information
Wow this Dr is so amazing love the free information he gives out to all of us for free❤❤the only thing is some of us can not afford grass fed beef it’s so costly so I buy what we can afford ❤
@toriwolf1014 I'm in the same boat, but the way I see it is I either pay for it now or I'll pay for it later in increased health costs and a potentially life-threatening disease. By then, I'd probably be willing to buy as much grass-fed beef as I can get my hands on, and it would most likely be too late. Besides, when you eat healthy vegetables and fruits alongside the grass-fed beef, they are far less expensive than the processed crap in boxes. How much would you be willing to pay to save your life if you had to? Be sure to compare prices. I've actually found some grass-fed beef that was less expensive than the other stuff, surprisingly.
Jicama spiked my glucose more than anything. Without the cgm I would have blithely continued to consume it daily because it is very high in fibre and it has no label it’s not that cut and dried unfortunately 🤷🏻♂️
Masterful explanation … thank you …
He is full of knowledge, Thank you for sharing to us.
Loved this, love Dr Lustig❤ ty for sharing this
Thank you Dr. Lustig! Our youngest is type one diabetic for the past twenty years. I hoping to put into practice these actionable suggestions in our diet. I am the main household cook, so I’m buying your book. We are a very sugar addicted family, however I am comforted by the fact that I now know that processed food is designed to addict us.
All the best and much success to you! Just please don't forget that Type 1 diabetes is fundamentally different from Type 2 diabetes because it's not caused by a crappy diet/ insulin resistance from too much sugar, it's caused by a damage to the pancreas itself, in many cases caused by certain viruses. That means you can't cure type2 by a change in diet, you will always have to supplement Insulin. Again, wishing you all the best and a long and healthy life!
I am sure you saw the typo there. Best wishes to your child.
Dr Lusting is amazing ❤
Dr Lustigs ,
An amazing Dr ,
He has a power to prove his point,
Very impressive.
5 March 2024 03:58 UTV........A big metabolical thank you to Prof Robert Lustig for the penetrating actionable information that leads to real life palpable results that we can truly experience , and that get better with greater degree of compliance to what Prof Robert Lustig said and keeps on saying .
Thank you Dr.Am taking this information seriously and am changing my diet from now on
Beautiful. Just beautiful.
Thank you dr. Robert.
I have your book (Metabolical) and can't wait to dive into it.
By the way, I listened to this while having breakfast and switched to eating three tangerines - delicious!
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Great video for a great doctor!
Thank you for this life saving information! 👍👍👏👏
It's fantastic to freely distribute such an important knowledge abiut food and eating
Gotta love Dr. Lustig. He doesn't hold back. He tells is like it is. Yep, it is "piss and tell". I am now about to start reading that book
This discussion is really making me hungry!
I'm fasting.
Don't overdue it!
If you have metabolic syndrome the book metaboplical is a life changer. Thankfully after being diagnosed with heat issues three years ago aged 62 at the time I started on an journey to fitness and wellness. Keto diet was instrumental in getting me there (lost 85Lbs) along with intermittent fasting, resistant training and good cardio work outs. It comes down to two basic things. Eat real good quality whole foods and move more (ideally with resistance involved). Cut down on alcohol and all sugars refined or not. Get blood tests at least twice a year and look at the numbers yourself. Do your own research. Drink at least 1/2 gallon water per day more if you can take it. But never forget to live life to the full. My ambition, is to die as healthfully as possible.
Everything Dr Lustig is explaining is the truth 😢.
truth is a logical function, and nothing which can be explained. He points to the right direction sure, but it is not "the truth". Truth is no the subject of science, but of orthodox religion. The core of science is doubt.
Fantastic informative interview. Learned so much. Will get the book for sure. Retired RN . Canada.
Dr. Lustig ❤ is a legend.
I certainly agree with his approach - it has worked for me.
Question for anyone: Why do organisations like Diabetes Australia continue with the food guidelines that ptomote a high level of carbs?
There is ample evidence that it has not worked given the high levels of chronic diseases like fatty liver, diabetes, heart disease....
Many institutions still recommend reducing saturated fats yet encourage eating fruit, which for diabetics is crazy.😮
such great information.
Excellent interview. Would be very helpful if you could do a follow-up interview that addresses use of supplements to address key issues like insulin resistance, fatty liver etc? Many thanks for sharing
Lustig is a brilliant doctor and nutritional scientist.
really awesome!!
What an amazing discussion.Thank you for this critical health information.JHB-SA.
Anything that government and Medical Association "advises" do the contrary!!!! Robert and your colleagues in this media channel are heroes!!!! sharing their knowledge and experiences for the people's well being!!!! I have improved my health just putting in practice eating actually food (staying away from process food and mainly SUGAR). FYI, my both side of my family diabetics and others illnesses that I was told I will have down the road of my life; I have proofed them wrong when I started changing eating habits 4 years ago. Thank you Robert for sharing your knowledge!!! in my book, you are my heroes!!!
eye opening!
My family members that eat fast food, grocery store junk food, alcohol, cigarettes, prescription drugs, lie and steal all believe that there is something wrong with me because I don't do any of those things. I have a family member that have taken so many prescription drugs for so long that I have come to believe that they have been turned into a completely different person.
it would be easier to list what I eat instead of what I don't eat BUT I get made fun of
Hospice nurses will tell you that in nonterminal illness cases such as physical decline without cancer Many hospice patients taken off their medications actually get better and no longer qualify for hospice!
syrius I’m sorry your family has made these decisions. I thank God that you can see the harm and turn from this lifestyle too. I know you wrote that because you love them and that’s the most important thing. Praying for them and you.
It would be wonderful having Dr. Robert talking about high LDL in menopause
So interesting! ❤
Robert Lustig means what he says, he's passionate close to the point of saying some "bad words" - and he has the science and research on his side. I learned a lot.
Apart from his claims about dietary fiber, this doctor is a godsend…! 😊
I particularly likee Dr Lustig. Have spent 4 months eating no added sugar and mostly real food. Every once in a while I will eat a pizza or maybe a cheeseburger. I feel so much better with the change in diet.
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Thank you Dr.Lusting for educsting us about treating simptoms and not the real cause.
Dr. Lustig is right 30 years ago until this time I never get sick by eating fruits, vegetables but not eating Sugar and Salt.
Truth 💯 %
Keep preaching it.
Concerning flour replacement, I found an amazing flour (I live in Montreal, Canada) that is high in fibers: lupin flour. I use it for baking. The problem is that it is more expensive 😢. Thank you Dr. Lustig for educating us and helping us in our food choices. We love you ❤❤❤
I have it. Do you use it 1:1 ratio to normal flour?
There are interesting recipes on the Internet if you search Lupin Flour. I used it when I was on the keto diet to make cookies and bread (Diedre's low carb bread), but now that we can't use erythritol or other similar sugars anymore ( because it can lead to blot clots and it raises insulin the same as sugar), I didn't search for more sweet recipes, just for the bread which you mix it with oat fiber and vital wheat gluten. I'm trying to ban sugar completely, but it is hard...@@mayiakashmurr3000
Lupin flour is great! Bamboo fiber too!
Cheaper than being ill.
Flour=bad, whatever it is. (37mins in)
"Real food doesn't have a label."
That succinctly makes the point I've often tried to impart using many more words. I'm keeping it.
Could I humbly request if anyone seen on youtube dr Lusting speaking about how to help children in asthma in terms of getting rid of root causes not the symptoms only??With huge respect and thanks to all dr Lusting work that enlightened us a lot👍👏👏☝️
Dear robert, i love you to bits and have great respect. I started my health regime after having a kidney removed almost 50 years ago.since then i changed my diet and for about 48years ago i have not eaten meat, fish, chicken or eggs. I havd been a whole food plant diet vegan for over 20 years. I came across natural hygiene 40 years ago and they include eating between 12 noon and 8pm, in fact intermitent fasting. It seems to be thought of as a new concept!! But it is not!! Also no one speaks about how meat manages the very long human digestive tract. In fact it putrifies and causes bowel diseases? We are primates and our food is fruit, greens and other veg. I wish you could research these last 2 points if you have not already done so. I am an 80years old female, healthy (i think), still teaching yoga and no medications.
Thank you for all your work and sharing it to help us all. Love and light 💖🌞🙏 vimala storey
Bullzye!! Thank you Robert Lustig for your ongoing advocacy and education.
good stuff
Yes this is an awesome simplified and explanation of a complicated concept. But what do I eat? This cant be that difficult?
Produce does have a label now and tells you what they are doing to it if you can interpret their codes.
Dr. Lustig, thanks for a great talk. Could you tell whether Optifiber/Benefiber and Metamucil as fiber supplementation are useful?
Rob's last point is that Fructose decreases Mitachondrial beta-oxidation as a pre-cursor to Parkinsons disease .My Father died from Parkinsons ,so he must have had damaged mitachondria ( at least partly, caused by Fructose in our Processed Food ). Soft drinks ,especially , are full of Fructose that damages our mitachondria .
I am reading the Metabolical book ASAP
Glyphosate ? Dr. Zack Bush and Dr Ronda Patrick on youtube are the front runners on the subject . Your welcome . Any questions?
Actually it is probably Dr. Stephanie Seneff (MIT) who is the front runner.
Read your great book Metabolical and love it. Being a stickler for detail I was surprise to not see a single footnote. In my opinion it is so important in terms of credibility. As all of my favourite researchers love to say, Here are my sources, check it out yourself.
Check out page 12 in his book... there's the link to his sources
17:01 My ALT (SGPT) is 8 and the range on the slip stated 0-44.
What's your thoughts of flaxseed and hempseads for type2
My ALT is 20
My Triglycerides are 79.
I will be asking for Fasting Insulin
Can someone help clarify for me. I found my fasting glucose in mg/dL and conversions to mmol/L, but What is microunits per mil in millogram/dL?
Grass fed beef is one thing..but how is it FINISHED? Be careful with assumptions. Grass fed for the first part of the steer’s life is lovely; but very often untold, is how the last month or so of the animal spends its time? In a feed lot to fatten up a bit? All over the place you may find declarations that the beef is “grass fed” but hardly ever (except perhaps at a farmer’s market) will you hear “grass fed and grass finished “. How much of a difference does it really make? I don’t know…but it would be interesting to find out.
Means alot.
“You eat, what you eat eats”
I always look for grass fed grass finished and surprisingly enough. Walmart has finished ground beef.
Grass finished is the key phrase. All beef is grass fed. You only want to consume ‘grass finished’
All I want to know from a label is whether it has plant matter or seed oils. Otherwise, what kind of meat is it?
Just curious anyone know why when the host mentions the time stamp on this interview being April which i assume its April of 2023 then why its posted a month ago which would be mid December of 2023 ? I thought videos are posted almost right away.
I trust Dr Lustig and Dr Jason Fung
Agree 💯
I have a 1.6 on average the last 4 years of fasting insulin labs . . Highest level 2.2 lowest level was 1.1 is that too low ? I’m 60 , very muscular. AIC 5.0
Great infos, thank you! We need to keep in mind that fruits and vegetables, the « Real Foods » have also been modified (OMG, glyphosates)
Yes! And tons of pesticides, even the organic ones. Plus plants are terrible for IBS due to fiber and anti-nutrients in plants..oxalates, etc which cause so many issues..fish, meat, etc so much easier to digest and the doc says in another interview that microbiome can eat fish and meat without fiber as long as no sugar or fructose are present except in food form. Omega 3 in fish is magic..
Sue Becker teaches nutrition on whole wheat mainly fresh milled. Hard Red or White has fiber and ton of nutrients.
Are the sugar and fructose amounts the Liver can handle additional or is it just one or the other ?
Paid for my own private fasting insulin, awaiting results.
Dr lusting is a real talented
Dr. All professional from MD to mchanic cross the board 5% is the best then 5% the second best the rest is average to poor.
Is Insulin Resistance (IR) test also very important marker for T2 Diabetes!? My GP is always pro this test...
Dr Boz gives her formula for measuring insulin