As ever, you are one of a small hadful of guru-educators in the field to whom I look for learning and knowledge. You are in fact my favourite source of continuing professional education for its gentle, unvarnished delivery, clarity, precision and honesty. I also am blown away by the beauty of your photography and the natural, family-oriented simplicity with which you appear to conduct your life. My warmest thanks!
The colour cast on the Lee ND filters is well known. They've introduced a set of Pro Glass IRND ND filters that have no colour cast, but they are a touch on the expensive side
Kase is really making the only affordable neutral high quality filters I've tried. Hoya's Solas and HD3 filters are kind bendingly good too, but also not cheap.
Hi Hudson grt information. If 100mm fliter is sufficient for this lens why did nikon make a 112mm unusuall screw in filter thread hood? Maybe they would have given a 100mm screw in filter thred for the lens itself.. I like kase for what they're doing but obiously scared to use these clip in filters in humid n dry lands Any chances that they may come up with front magnetic filters for this lenses?
May you and your family have a Happy and Safe New Years, Hudson! Thank you for all the knowledge you shared this year, looking forward to learning more from you next year.
this is the vid I've been waiting for! Many thanks. Happy New Year to you, to your lovely family, and to all those friends reading this! God Bless and Stay Safe
Appreciate this is a two year old video… still love my Lee Filters. Changed the Big Stopper for the Pro Glass IRND 10 stop which doesn’t have a blue cast. If you drop Lee glass filters they will shatter, whereas some competitors glass filters will literally bounce!
After the last 2 years with Kase, I could NEVER go back to threaded or rectangular. The Revolution magnetic system is so simple and fabulous to work with. Deploy, swap and stack effortlessly. The optical quality is as good as any other I've tested. And they are optical class just like Lee, but tempered to resist shattering unless brutally treated, in which case they shatter too. www.hudsonhenry.com/kase I've converted a lot of shooters. No complaints yet with the Revolution system. None. ;-)
Stuart, that's rad. I didn't know that till your comment. Thank you! I'll amplify it with credit. The Nisi filter holders don't fit nearly as well as the original plastic Nikon 112 threaded hood. Anon, the hood won't really be optimal for avoiding direct oblique light on the lens, but it will let you share thos big filters out front with no fear of vignetting.
Update: for those in the uk....I spoke to Nisi following this video, and they tell me their 112m circular filters should be in the uk by the end of the month ie end of Jan 2021.
Hey Hudson, for your test did you use the older LEE resin Big Stopper or the new ProGlass IRND Filter? I couldn't quite quite catch which you were using in the video.
Hudson, I noticed that the Kase clip in filters has a UV filter and a Neutral night filter. Would it make sense to have one of these in your camera at all times to protect the sensor from dust? Per you charts, there may be a slight degradation in sharpness?
I'm gonna say no Jay. I'm sure people will do it, but your sensor isn't in any danger of damage. You'd need to blow off and clean the UV just like you do the sensor. The sensor is really very easy to clean in these cameras and the UV filter is only going to add the possibility of degrading the image without giving you any added protection (like a UV in front of your lens element) or effect (like polarizing or ND).
Great video. You will end up costing me money if you keep talking about this 14-24! Have a blessed and happy new year! I hope to see you snd shoot some cool stuff in 2021.
I really do believe this is the best video review I've watched on this subject. First time here, but I'm subscribing for more. BTW, I have a Zeiss Milvus 15mm with a 95mm front element - which filter holder (Kase or Nisi) would you recommend?
I'm sure the video I put up today will answer that one for you. Hit me up with any questions you have and check out my store at www.hudsonhenry.com/kase I had the opportunity to test both brands over a long period of time as well as others. The image quality difference is virtually non-existent. What wins me over is the ease of use and thin size of the Kase glass.
Happier new year. I enjoy your videos. Nice work. You ought to look at Breakthrough filters. They are very color true and now make dedicated filters for the Nikon 14-24 z
Hi Hudson, and Happy New Year. As a landscaper, i tend to find the 14-30 a bit smudgy on the edges at 14mm, (mostly all i shoot at with the lens),...even at F/5.6 to F/8. Does the 14-24S clean this up? Debating on if I should sell the 14-30 and spend another 1500 for the 14-24.
OH Yeah, It's crazy in the edges. Even wide open. ua-cam.com/video/vTKMA86fylg/v-deo.html I honestly think it's worth it if the budget is there. I adore it. I have links at www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks Thanks Ryan.
Thanks for this. I don't have the 14-24 S (sticking with the 14-30 for now). I do own the NiSi Advanced Kit and a couple of other NDs. As your tests illustrate, they are superb, with no perceptible colour shift. I use the Epson V750 for my vintage film images (35mm, medium and larger format) and often use the wet scanning kit (didi a tutorial on that), which really makes a difference.
Yep, I've used wetscans with my Minolta dimage scan multipro (which does up to 6x9) and also a v750 flatbed. I can attest the results with the Z7 and a good backlight are comparable if not better with a very small fraction of the effort and time. :) ya, NiSi makes great glass.
Happy New Year. Great Video. I have the Nikon Z 24-70 mm lens with the new Z6II. Just love it. Would you consider just getting the NiSi 82 mm Neutral Density 6 or 10 stop filter? Or would I be better off getting a larger filter and adaptor?
Do you mean the 2.8 24-70? Do you plan to get the 14-24? My favorite 82mm is really Hoyal Solas IRND, but if you buy the 14-24, then you can slap it's 112mm hood on the 24-70 2.8 and the 70-200 2.8 S lenses as well. That might make the 112mm filters makes sense. You just need a Nikon 14-24 112mm hood. It fits that whole 2.8 Zoom S trinity system.
Hudson I bought a 14-24 S last week and returned it. Coming from Canon I felt my wide angles were much sharper. Now I’m back to the drawing board for a wide angle and considering the 14-30 F4. Is that the route to go as many folks on YT seem to give it high praise, or do I go back to the 14-24 and try again. I loved the built quality of the lens, but was hard to justify the 2k+ price tag.
You must have had a bad copy. It's the sharpest ultrawide I've ever shot in my life and that includes Zeiss primes. I've never heard of a bad copy of an S lens, but I suppose it's possible. The 14-30 is great, but I sold it the instant I did this comparison... ua-cam.com/video/vTKMA86fylg/v-deo.html
Hi Hudson, awesome video!! Have you looked at the new Kase Rear ND Nikon 14-24 F2.8 set ND8+ ND64+ND1000, the ones you slide in the special area on the 14-24?
Hi Hudson, did the 112mm NiSi filters from B&H come with the leather pouch? They don’t list it in their “In The Box” description (only the warranty), and in accessories, the first item shown is a filter pouch, so it kind of threw me off track and I haven’t ordered them yet. I posted a question to them, but they have yet to answer. That said, do you have a preference between the 112mm screw-in system vs. their 100mm square approach? Thanks and a very Happy New Year to you and your family!
Yes, they come in the leather pouches inside the box. If you have the 24-70 2.8 S and/or the 70-200 2.8 S, then you might consider the round filters. All three lenses accept that big 112mm Hood the 14-24 comes with so you can share the round filters. The Nisi square and round holder doesn't fit very well on the other lenses. Only the 14-24.
Hudson, great video as always. I'm a little confused on how I can use a grey/white card. If I use a filter that has an unwanted colour cast, and also a 18% grey card, or a white card, can I simply use the white balance dropper in Lightroom to select the card, and that will correct for all the colour cast? Or is white balance only part of it and I also need to correct hues etc.? Keep up the great work! I'm really looking forward to this Z 14-24 2.8 once I save up for it.
Happy New Year to you and the family Hudson! Thanks for the work and sharing! Off topic...my Z 70-200 f2.8 VR S lens came this week...absolutely incredible! (used your link of course bud). I really wanted the 14-24 but the filter situation is just too hard a pill for me to swallow...I already have PolarPro's Cinema line of ND/CP and the PM Edition II VND filters by PolarPeo and love them, nice stuff ...hard to justify carrying more filters for just ONE lens. So I picked up Z 20mm f1.g S...it's great for astro and video and it takes the filters I have....also I have the AF-S 10-24mm DX I can use with the FTZ adapter for a wide zoom.
The 20 is a gem. I keep waffling on selling mine now that I have the 14-24. I have to do some side by side star work first. I did just figure out (with a comment here on UA-cam), that the 70-200 accepts that big 112mm threaded Hood from the 14-24 S. So does the 24-70 2.8 S. Why doesn't Nikon market that news? Crazy. You could use the 112s with any of the holy trinity Z glass!
@@HudsonHenryPhoto That's interesting.....seems typical of Nikon but yeah they should include that in the marketing for all of those lens...that makes the 14-24 a little more viable. Maybe someday.
Hey Hudson, I am looking for a new 10 stop 100mm filter, aand I have a NiSi filter holder. Is there anything preventing me from using a Kase filter on a NiSi holder?
Blow them off with a Rocket blower and use a microfiber very carefully if necessary. ICE was nice, but the time savings, ease of use and quality possible with the ES-2 make it highly unlikely I'll ever use anything else for 35mm.
Hey Hudson, I recently bought the Nisi filter holder for the Nikon Z 14-24 S to use with my lee big stopper! To my surprise there is a dual flare that appears @14mm, it goes away beyond 20mm! have you had a similar experience? I was using a Z6II.
I wonder if refocusing with the Kase behind the lens filter would improve its result. It's known that putting glass between a lens and sensor can change the focus point.
No, I did focus it. I used my Z7 in the studio which doesn't have the Focus hold setting. I was surprised how easy it was to autofocus or manual focus with the 10 stop in place. These new cameras rock.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hi Hudson - thanks for the reply! I've been thinking of getting one of the Kase filters for my Sonys to minimize dust cleaning. And dust caught on them would be less obvious as the same dust on the sensor glass. I shoot a lot of timelapse and I really hate spotting dust. For sure about how easy it is to focus with NDs with mirrorless - it's no issue. I've used 10 stop ND on my a7III 10-15 minutes after sunset and not only can I see the subject on the LCD, but the exposure is always close to right on! By the way - I'm a PDXer as well. Glad to see you're representing the PNW.
Hi Hudson, Did you notice any vignetting at the widest lens setting...?? I bought the expensive B+W 112mm circular polarizer and I was disappointed that it suffers from vignetting between 14mm and right around 18.mm which is not good. thanks...
Bummer! No, they are very thin. In fact I tested it stacking an ND with the polarizer over it (it's thin and has no outer threads and it has only the tiniest, itsy bitsy vignette at the extreme corners at 14 and it's gone by a tick past 16 with them stacked.
Hey Hudson. Thanks for comparing the filters, as I ha e been shopping for both UV @ND 5 or 6 stop and 10 stop for my 24-70mm f4 Z lens. Have always used Hoya, but having trouble locating the Solas filters in 72 mm. Amazon has the Hoya ProND 6 stop in 72 mm. Is it worth waiting until the Solas is available? Happy Holidays to you and family.
Hey Ken, I'd go to Hoya, use my discount code from the links page www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks and consider getting an 82mm and adapting up to it. That way if you decide to get the 14-30 or another lens with a bigger ring, you'll be set. I really never buy filters smaller than 82 for that reason. EXCEPT, for UV filters as a protection for my front element and then I tend to only use HD3 UV filters since I just don't see any image degradation and they are bombproof.
Two Questions… What camera backpack were you using in your test shots? And, where did you find the thin aluminum case for your “Colorcheckr 24” and White/Grey card (back side of my Colorcheckr 24)? Any search I do comes up with the large case that the Colorcheckr system came in.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks! I have the Colorcheckr 24. I was more interested in the aluminum case holding yours. Mine is currently in a flimsy hard paper sleeve.
Have an amazingly good 2021. Keep well, keep safe and be happy. p.s. I have been using the Lee big stopper for years on my DLSR and have alway found the colour shift a pain. Then having to run a number of colour corrections in CC (Yes I am a CC user sorry). When I have save I bit of cash I am thinking the 14-24 f2.8 will be my first Z lens with may be a set of NiSi filters. Thanks.
You too John. Ha, I use CC too. I've used PS since version 4 and I've organized LR since version 1. I also use ON1 and I vastly prefer finish editing with for a lot of reasons, speed, simplicity, flexibility, presets that leave underlying raw processing intact, but I'm never far from CC. You won't regret that lens one bit. If you consider using my links, I"d much appreciate it.
Hudson, at this point you have both the 14-30 f/4 and the 14-24 f/2.8 S lenses. Since you got the latter, do you find you still have some use for the f/4, or do you now find it completely redundant?
I'm selling the F4 for sure. In a perfect world it might be a lens to take on mountaineering trips, but the new one isn't that heavy or large and it's just hard not to choose it over the F4 as good as that F4 is.
@@gosman949 It cuts down on the light pollution and restores a more natural colour to the image. Here is a link to the NiSi website where it explains it. en.nisioptics.com/nisi-natural-night-filter
Shooting the filter box, holding up two fingers etc. Nikon need to build in some sort of stacking/bracketing markers. Be so useful to be able to bookend frame sequences. 👍👍
Hi Hudson grt information. Nisi square vs Nisi screw in filters . which one do u prefer. What are the pros n cons of both choices? If 100mm fliter is sufficient for this lens why did nikon make a 112mm unusuall screw in filter thread hood? Maybe they would have given a 100mm screw in filter thred for the lens itself.. What do u think? I like kase for what they're doing but obiously scared to use these clip in filters in humid n dusty dry lands Any chances that they may come up with front magnetic filters for this lenses?
I much, much prefer kase now that I've tried all the brands. Check out why www.hudsonhenry.com/kase on and I love the 112 form factor. Zero concerns with vignetting even stacking. Especially with the ultra thin and simple kase design. Love that the Nikon 112 hood snaps right on the 24-70 2.8, 70-200, 50 1.2 and 14-30 as well. Brilliant.
In the field, just natural overcast even forest light. In the studio... You wouldn't believe it. hot lights, panel lights, KINO lights. I think I have to hit about 13 switches to get it set up. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Yes I should have been more clear, I was referring to the studio, and that phenomenal lol, Would love to see a behind the scenes sometime.
Great question, just tested that quick here... You can stack them Polarizer out (it has no outer threads and is very thin). There is a miniscule bit of vignetting (I mean tiny) at 14mm, but it disappears by 16. :-)
Hey Hudson. Great insight into all of this. I learn so much from watching your videos. I’m a little late to the party here but only recently bought the 14-24 f2.8 S lens and immediately bought the Nisi round filter holder with 6 and 10 stop NDs to go with it. I did not realize until this video that Nisi also made a v6 100mm Square filter holder. I already have a Nisi 100mm v6 holder to fit both my 24-70 S and 70-200 S lens. So have I wasted a lot of money buying the dedicated round hood and filters for the 14-24 S? Should (could) I have simply bought an adapter ring for the Nisi v6 holder I already have to attach it to the 14-24 and use the same 100mm square filters instead of carrying two systems?
I suppose it depends on what and where you are shooting and the amount of gear you can carry around. For me, the NiSi lens-hood solution allows me to keep a filter on the lens to protect it from damage. For my 82mm 24-70 and 77mm 70-200, I am using the rather elegant and sexy Polar Pro Summit system with its proprietary filters but this system does not work with the 14-24. Such a shame… Also, as an alternative to the Kase rear-end ND filters which fit across the camera sensor, I am using the Haida rear-end filters which fit into the lens, following the replacement of another piece of plastic with a metal piece. I prefer the idea of adding my filter to the lens rather than the camera.
No NiSi built thier hood to the wider grooves of the 14-24 and it does not fit the other lenses. It's also really unnessesarily heavy. I'm not a fan at all. The hb-97 is by far the better of the two I think.
14-24. It's so great and it's lighter/smaller than the two others combined. ua-cam.com/video/vTKMA86fylg/v-deo.html The only caveat is if you have a lot invested in high end 82mm filters you love to work with at wide angle. Then it's a big expense to switch to 112mm. I have links here: www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@johanfehr1740 no. I never used filters with my old 14-24 AFS. There are ways, but they're so awkward. The new HB 97 hood system for the Z 2.8s is worth it's weight in gold. So simple.
@@johanfehr1740 nope. Sadly no. It fits the 14-24 S, 24-70 2.8 S, 70-200 S, 50 1.2 S and 14-30 S. Honestly, the 14-30 S is FAR sharper wide open in the corners than the 14-24 AFS at F4. The shorter flange distance and wider mount opened a new world of performance for the engineers designing S glass. The new 14-24 is flat astounding. For well over a decade, I adored my 14-24 AFS but I can't imagine going back to it now.
Thanks for the very informative review, Hudson. Can you stack two 112mm round filters without vignetting at 14mm? I am sure many, like me would stack a polarizer and ND. Thanks!
There is just the tiniest little bit of vignette in the tips of the corners putting the polarizer outside the ND. It's gone by 16. The polarizer has to go outside as it has no outer thread.
Just found you Chanel picked up my z6ii loving it I suffer from serious gas and have to lean down my camera gear can you maybe give some thought feedback etc on the z6 replacing D500 and D850 Anyway Love your content and way you present keep it up PPS pretty. lol local park
I think you should be able to see and focus with the old 14-24 too. I haven't tried it, but it's more about the camera sensor and AF than the lens. :-) I think you might struggle with an F4 or F5.6 lens just because it doesn't let in as much light wide open, but not the 2.8s. :-)
Hi, see with the 14-24 2.8 S and the supplied nikon HB-97 hood, do you get any light leaks with the kase magnetic 112mm? They claim not but I see the gap when looking at the hood from behind?
None of the S lenses with hoods have EVER shown any evidence of light leaks ever for me and they all have those little vents. The hb97 in particular? I've used it with cpl, 6, and 10 stop kase filters stacked to get 120s at high noon. No leak at all. Don't worry for a second. I always laugh when I see people claiming it's an issue. It's not.
@HudsonHenryPhoto Hudson thank you so much for your reply. I am a LE nut and I use a Lee 100mm system on the 24-70 2.8S and adore it so I wanted to get a 6, 10 and polariser from kase and stack...keep it simple.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto getting error when I use my home, or work address - This item will be removed from your cart because there are no delivery methods available for your address. Kase KW Revolution 112mm Magnetic ND1000 10 Stop Neutral Denisty Filter & Adapter Kase KW Revolution 112mm Magnetic ND1000 10 Stop Neutral Denisty Filter & Adapter
Thank you for this video! Have you ever REALLY needed info and said hell with it, I will search UA-cam fingers crossed and boom- some smart credible person is there telling you EXACTLY what you need to know. On July 9 I am going to London my 3rd time this year and I just got a Nikon z7II with the "holy trinity" lenses in 2.8. I couldn't find a filter for the 14-24mm and couldn't really find good info with searches- My "search-fu" is weak today. Anyhow lifesaver!!! Oh- using the wide angle for some cityscape and interior stuff. I assist with some gov't agencies in the UK in my real job and I am fortunate enough through these great folks to get some great access to historical buildings but lugging a ton of gear isn't an option.
I really don't use the clip in. I love the round magnetics. No blurring with any of the filters from them that I've tested. They're very close to optically perfect.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for your reply .I recently imported this kase clip in as my back up system as I recently move to 14-24s and z7ii from D850 and tamron 15-30
They make nice stuff. I preferred Hoya's HD3 and Solas filters when I ran comparisons a while back. I don't think you'll go wrong getting the top of the line Hoya, Kase, NiSi, or Breakthrough filters. I've been running some tests and those brands just stand out for optical quality. Kase is sending me some 112 filters for the 14-24 to test and I'll report back on those too.
I am dying for Breakthrough to release their filters for the 12-24 2.8. Breakthrough is such an amazing company and their filters are truly top tier. ... also Kase should be releasing a 112mm mag set shortly. I was looking on your ATS links I cant find the grey card u were using in the links even though it is pictured in your "accessories"
It's part of that larger datacolor at with the colorimeter and cube. I usually carry the little colorchecker I linked in the description from xrite. :)
I had gone off even looking at the 14-24 and plan to keep the 14-30 with my NISI Filter Kit with the flat glass Filters ..So Hudson will that 100mm NISI Filter Holder hold my current NISI 100x150 Flat glass Filters as no ways could I afford the Circular 112mm screw in filters
NC, UV, Sky the goal of any of them for me is to have as little effect as possible on the image while protecting the lens in rough situations. I eschewed them for years till I scratched a couple of front elements and Hoya asked me to test thier HD3 UV series. I was blown away. I still sometimes remove them for a special scene. It's like a second better lens cap that you can shoot through and pull off to have a perfectly clean element for that special shot. Or it's like armor if the sand and saltwater is blowing.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for a quick response! For the same purpose I got NC for my lenses but always lack of confidence to keep them on shooting. Regards
Hi Henry, is it possible to stack the Nisi 112mm circular filters ? I have the 112mm CPL from Nisi but before adding the ND filters I would like to know if this is possible without getting weird distortion, vignetting etc.
There is no distortion stacking an ND atop the cpl, but you get a very small filter ring vignette at 14mm. It's really not bad, but I've been playing with the new magnetic set from Kase and they stack with no vignette. Both are great filters optically.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto hi Hudson (not Henry sorry for that), thanks for your reply ! Is it right that the Nisi hood for the 14-24mm also fits the 24-70 and 70-200mm ? That would be great because i would be able to use the 112mm filters for all three lenses !!
Sadly NiSi's only fits my 14-24, but the Nikon plastic one does. It also fits the 20 1.8. It's connections are a little thinner than NiSi's and only the 14-24 has the wider grooves to fit it. I mentioned it to them when I tested it.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto ok , the Kase filter ring might block eventual light leakage on the original Nikon hood for the 14-24mm. But I have to find out (don't have the Kase filters yet). Keep you updated.
@@gosman949 yes from their website! Good price but the micro USB cable it out of stock so will not delivwe until they get some more (D850 anyway). Good price and t
As ever, you are one of a small hadful of guru-educators in the field to whom I look for learning and knowledge. You are in fact my favourite source of continuing professional education for its gentle, unvarnished delivery, clarity, precision and honesty. I also am blown away by the beauty of your photography and the natural, family-oriented simplicity with which you appear to conduct your life. My warmest thanks!
Awwww, thanks for that! Made my morning. 🙏
Thank you Hudson for your dedication. I have the z50, upgraded from my D3100. I greatly enjoy it with my F-type lens.
Great video! I will be ordering the NISI holder for my 100x150 NISI filter (on the 14-24 1.8 S). Thanks for your great content, Hudson!
The colour cast on the Lee ND filters is well known. They've introduced a set of Pro Glass IRND ND filters that have no colour cast, but they are a touch on the expensive side
Kase is really making the only affordable neutral high quality filters I've tried. Hoya's Solas and HD3 filters are kind bendingly good too, but also not cheap.
Hi Hudson grt information.
If 100mm fliter is sufficient for this lens why did nikon make a 112mm unusuall screw in filter thread hood?
Maybe they would have given a 100mm screw in filter thred for the lens itself..
I like kase for what they're doing but obiously scared to use these clip in filters in humid n dry lands
Any chances that they may come up with front magnetic filters for this lenses?
May you and your family have a Happy and Safe New Years, Hudson! Thank you for all the knowledge you shared this year, looking forward to learning more from you next year.
So appreciated James. The same wishes for you and your family.
this is the vid I've been waiting for! Many thanks. Happy New Year to you, to your lovely family, and to all those friends reading this! God Bless and Stay Safe
THanks Patrick. You too!
Many thanks Hudson, for such informative vids, cheers from Wales. I'll buy you a beer if you ever come over..
Boy, I learn a lot on this channel!
That makes my day to hear!
I picked up the Kase filter set and love them... great value for the price!
Appreciate this is a two year old video… still love my Lee Filters. Changed the Big Stopper for the Pro Glass IRND 10 stop which doesn’t have a blue cast. If you drop Lee glass filters they will shatter, whereas some competitors glass filters will literally bounce!
After the last 2 years with Kase, I could NEVER go back to threaded or rectangular. The Revolution magnetic system is so simple and fabulous to work with. Deploy, swap and stack effortlessly. The optical quality is as good as any other I've tested. And they are optical class just like Lee, but tempered to resist shattering unless brutally treated, in which case they shatter too. www.hudsonhenry.com/kase I've converted a lot of shooters. No complaints yet with the Revolution system. None. ;-)
For those who aren't aware that 112mm holder that comes with the 14-24 also fits the 24-70 and 70-200.
@Anon 42 means if you wanted to you could use 112mm filters on all 3 lenses.
Stuart, that's rad. I didn't know that till your comment. Thank you! I'll amplify it with credit. The Nisi filter holders don't fit nearly as well as the original plastic Nikon 112 threaded hood. Anon, the hood won't really be optimal for avoiding direct oblique light on the lens, but it will let you share thos big filters out front with no fear of vignetting.
Great ATS Hudson, gave me lots to think about! Thank you. And happy New Year!
Glad you enjoyed it! You too!
Lota of great information. Excellent use of the filters. Thank you for your efforts. 👍 😊 😌 Happy New Year 🥳
Thank you! You too!
Update: for those in the uk....I spoke to Nisi following this video, and they tell me their 112m circular filters should be in the uk by the end of the month ie end of Jan 2021.
Thank for the detail testing info. But with the new Z8 available now, is the Kase work with Z8 with build in sensor protect? Thank you in advance.
Hey Hudson, for your test did you use the older LEE resin Big Stopper or the new ProGlass IRND Filter? I couldn't quite quite catch which you were using in the video.
Hudson, I noticed that the Kase clip in filters has a UV filter and a Neutral night filter. Would it make sense to have one of these in your camera at all times to protect the sensor from dust? Per you charts, there may be a slight degradation in sharpness?
I'm gonna say no Jay. I'm sure people will do it, but your sensor isn't in any danger of damage. You'd need to blow off and clean the UV just like you do the sensor. The sensor is really very easy to clean in these cameras and the UV filter is only going to add the possibility of degrading the image without giving you any added protection (like a UV in front of your lens element) or effect (like polarizing or ND).
Great video. You will end up costing me money if you keep talking about this 14-24! Have a blessed and happy new year! I hope to see you snd shoot some cool stuff in 2021.
I'd love that man. Tetons??? :-) You'll love it if you get that lens. Happpy New Year to the whole fam.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto the Tetons would be amazing!
I really do believe this is the best video review I've watched on this subject. First time here, but I'm subscribing for more. BTW, I have a Zeiss Milvus 15mm with a 95mm front element - which filter holder (Kase or Nisi) would you recommend?
I'm sure the video I put up today will answer that one for you. Hit me up with any questions you have and check out my store at www.hudsonhenry.com/kase I had the opportunity to test both brands over a long period of time as well as others. The image quality difference is virtually non-existent. What wins me over is the ease of use and thin size of the Kase glass.
Happier new year. I enjoy your videos. Nice work. You ought to look at Breakthrough filters. They are very color true and now make dedicated filters for the Nikon 14-24 z
I tested them years back against Hoya's HD3 and Solas lines and liked the Hoyas better. They are really nice though.
Hi Hudson, and Happy New Year. As a landscaper, i tend to find the 14-30 a bit smudgy on the edges at 14mm, (mostly all i shoot at with the lens),...even at F/5.6 to F/8. Does the 14-24S clean this up? Debating on if I should sell the 14-30 and spend another 1500 for the 14-24.
OH Yeah, It's crazy in the edges. Even wide open. ua-cam.com/video/vTKMA86fylg/v-deo.html I honestly think it's worth it if the budget is there. I adore it. I have links at www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks Thanks Ryan.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for your feedback.
Thanks for this. I don't have the 14-24 S (sticking with the 14-30 for now). I do own the NiSi Advanced Kit and a couple of other NDs. As your tests illustrate, they are superb, with no perceptible colour shift.
I use the Epson V750 for my vintage film images (35mm, medium and larger format) and often use the wet scanning kit (didi a tutorial on that), which really makes a difference.
Yep, I've used wetscans with my Minolta dimage scan multipro (which does up to 6x9) and also a v750 flatbed. I can attest the results with the Z7 and a good backlight are comparable if not better with a very small fraction of the effort and time. :) ya, NiSi makes great glass.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto The flatbed comes into its own with larger negs.
How did the Lee Filter fit the NiSi holder? I know the Lee Big Stopper is a lil thicker than NiSi 10 stop
It fit perfectly.
Happy New Year. Great Video. I have the Nikon Z 24-70 mm lens with the new Z6II. Just love it. Would you consider just getting the NiSi 82 mm Neutral Density 6 or 10 stop filter? Or would I be better off getting a larger filter and adaptor?
Do you mean the 2.8 24-70? Do you plan to get the 14-24? My favorite 82mm is really Hoyal Solas IRND, but if you buy the 14-24, then you can slap it's 112mm hood on the 24-70 2.8 and the 70-200 2.8 S lenses as well. That might make the 112mm filters makes sense. You just need a Nikon 14-24 112mm hood. It fits that whole 2.8 Zoom S trinity system.
Hudson I bought a 14-24 S last week and returned it. Coming from Canon I felt my wide angles were much sharper. Now I’m back to the drawing board for a wide angle and considering the 14-30 F4. Is that the route to go as many folks on YT seem to give it high praise, or do I go back to the 14-24 and try again. I loved the built quality of the lens, but was hard to justify the 2k+ price tag.
You must have had a bad copy. It's the sharpest ultrawide I've ever shot in my life and that includes Zeiss primes. I've never heard of a bad copy of an S lens, but I suppose it's possible. The 14-30 is great, but I sold it the instant I did this comparison... ua-cam.com/video/vTKMA86fylg/v-deo.html
Hi Hudson, awesome video!! Have you looked at the new Kase Rear ND Nikon 14-24 F2.8 set ND8+ ND64+ND1000, the ones you slide in the special area on the 14-24?
Hi Hudson, did the 112mm NiSi filters from B&H come with the leather pouch? They don’t list it in their “In The Box” description (only the warranty), and in accessories, the first item shown is a filter pouch, so it kind of threw me off track and I haven’t ordered them yet. I posted a question to them, but they have yet to answer. That said, do you have a preference between the 112mm screw-in system vs. their 100mm square approach? Thanks and a very Happy New Year to you and your family!
Yes, they come in the leather pouches inside the box. If you have the 24-70 2.8 S and/or the 70-200 2.8 S, then you might consider the round filters. All three lenses accept that big 112mm Hood the 14-24 comes with so you can share the round filters. The Nisi square and round holder doesn't fit very well on the other lenses. Only the 14-24.
Hudson, great video as always. I'm a little confused on how I can use a grey/white card.
If I use a filter that has an unwanted colour cast, and also a 18% grey card, or a white card, can I simply use the white balance dropper in Lightroom to select the card, and that will correct for all the colour cast? Or is white balance only part of it and I also need to correct hues etc.?
Keep up the great work! I'm really looking forward to this Z 14-24 2.8 once I save up for it.
Happy New Year to you and the family Hudson! Thanks for the work and sharing! Off topic...my Z 70-200 f2.8 VR S lens came this week...absolutely incredible! (used your link of course bud). I really wanted the 14-24 but the filter situation is just too hard a pill for me to swallow...I already have PolarPro's Cinema line of ND/CP and the PM Edition II VND filters by PolarPeo and love them, nice stuff ...hard to justify carrying more filters for just ONE lens. So I picked up Z 20mm f1.g S...it's great for astro and video and it takes the filters I have....also I have the AF-S 10-24mm DX I can use with the FTZ adapter for a wide zoom.
The 20 is a gem. I keep waffling on selling mine now that I have the 14-24. I have to do some side by side star work first. I did just figure out (with a comment here on UA-cam), that the 70-200 accepts that big 112mm threaded Hood from the 14-24 S. So does the 24-70 2.8 S. Why doesn't Nikon market that news? Crazy. You could use the 112s with any of the holy trinity Z glass!
@@HudsonHenryPhoto That's interesting.....seems typical of Nikon but yeah they should include that in the marketing for all of those lens...that makes the 14-24 a little more viable. Maybe someday.
Hey Hudson, I am looking for a new 10 stop 100mm filter, aand I have a NiSi filter holder.
Is there anything preventing me from using a Kase filter on a NiSi holder?
Great. Channel. With regards to ES2 vs Nikon Scanner - what are you doing to remove dust on the images that Nikon Scanner did automatically with ICE?
Blow them off with a Rocket blower and use a microfiber very carefully if necessary. ICE was nice, but the time savings, ease of use and quality possible with the ES-2 make it highly unlikely I'll ever use anything else for 35mm.
Hey Hudson, I recently bought the Nisi filter holder for the Nikon Z 14-24 S to use with my lee big stopper! To my surprise there is a dual flare that appears @14mm, it goes away beyond 20mm! have you had a similar experience? I was using a Z6II.
I much prefer the Kase system. www.hudsonhenry.com/kase I haven't had leaks in my NiSi testing, but the Kase stuff is just so good.
I wonder if refocusing with the Kase behind the lens filter would improve its result. It's known that putting glass between a lens and sensor can change the focus point.
No, I did focus it. I used my Z7 in the studio which doesn't have the Focus hold setting. I was surprised how easy it was to autofocus or manual focus with the 10 stop in place. These new cameras rock.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hi Hudson - thanks for the reply! I've been thinking of getting one of the Kase filters for my Sonys to minimize dust cleaning. And dust caught on them would be less obvious as the same dust on the sensor glass. I shoot a lot of timelapse and I really hate spotting dust.
For sure about how easy it is to focus with NDs with mirrorless - it's no issue. I've used 10 stop ND on my a7III 10-15 minutes after sunset and not only can I see the subject on the LCD, but the exposure is always close to right on! By the way - I'm a PDXer as well. Glad to see you're representing the PNW.
Hi Hudson, Did you notice any vignetting at the widest lens setting...?? I bought the expensive B+W 112mm circular polarizer and I was disappointed that it suffers from vignetting between 14mm and right around 18.mm which is not good. thanks...
Bummer! No, they are very thin. In fact I tested it stacking an ND with the polarizer over it (it's thin and has no outer threads and it has only the tiniest, itsy bitsy vignette at the extreme corners at 14 and it's gone by a tick past 16 with them stacked.
and hoya hd nano 82mm cir-pl? how much will the sticker be?
Hey Hudson. Thanks for comparing the filters, as I ha e been shopping for both UV @ND 5 or 6 stop and 10 stop for my 24-70mm f4 Z lens. Have always used Hoya, but having trouble locating the Solas filters in 72 mm. Amazon has the Hoya ProND 6 stop in 72 mm. Is it worth waiting until the Solas is available? Happy Holidays to you and family.
Hey Ken,
I'd go to Hoya, use my discount code from the links page www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks and consider getting an 82mm and adapting up to it. That way if you decide to get the 14-30 or another lens with a bigger ring, you'll be set. I really never buy filters smaller than 82 for that reason. EXCEPT, for UV filters as a protection for my front element and then I tend to only use HD3 UV filters since I just don't see any image degradation and they are bombproof.
Two Questions… What camera backpack were you using in your test shots? And, where did you find the thin aluminum case for your “Colorcheckr 24” and White/Grey card (back side of my Colorcheckr 24)? Any search I do comes up with the large case that the Colorcheckr system came in.
I'm so blown away by NYA-EVO bags, you can't imagine how great they are. It's all in my links: www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
I'm in Costa Rica right now, but if you're adding any the big datacolor checker, you pull out the cards and reverse them. It's easy.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks! I have the Colorcheckr 24. I was more interested in the aluminum case holding yours. Mine is currently in a flimsy hard paper sleeve.
Have an amazingly good 2021. Keep well, keep safe and be happy. p.s. I have been using the Lee big stopper for years on my DLSR and have alway found the colour shift a pain. Then having to run a number of colour corrections in CC (Yes I am a CC user sorry). When I have save I bit of cash I am thinking the 14-24 f2.8 will be my first Z lens with may be a set of NiSi filters. Thanks.
You too John. Ha, I use CC too. I've used PS since version 4 and I've organized LR since version 1. I also use ON1 and I vastly prefer finish editing with for a lot of reasons, speed, simplicity, flexibility, presets that leave underlying raw processing intact, but I'm never far from CC. You won't regret that lens one bit. If you consider using my links, I"d much appreciate it.
Man i'm glad you did this video as i purchased the 14-24; although the Z7ii is on "backorder"
Hudson, at this point you have both the 14-30 f/4 and the 14-24 f/2.8 S lenses. Since you got the latter, do you find you still have some use for the f/4, or do you now find it completely redundant?
I'm selling the F4 for sure. In a perfect world it might be a lens to take on mountaineering trips, but the new one isn't that heavy or large and it's just hard not to choose it over the F4 as good as that F4 is.
I have a couple NiSi filters & I really like them. I have their Night Sky Filter and a couple round (screw in) 6 Stop ND filters (a 72mm and a 77mm).
Really good quality glass. No doubt they're in at the top of the game.
I'm confused as to what the Night Sky filter does. Please explain.
@@gosman949 It cuts down on the light pollution and restores a more natural colour to the image. Here is a link to the NiSi website where it explains it.
en.nisioptics.com/nisi-natural-night-filter
Shooting the filter box, holding up two fingers etc. Nikon need to build in some sort of stacking/bracketing markers. Be so useful to be able to bookend frame sequences. 👍👍
Hi Hudson grt information.
Nisi square vs Nisi screw in filters . which one do u prefer. What are the pros n cons of both choices?
If 100mm fliter is sufficient for this lens why did nikon make a 112mm unusuall screw in filter thread hood?
Maybe they would have given a 100mm screw in filter thred for the lens itself.. What do u think?
I like kase for what they're doing but obiously scared to use these clip in filters in humid n dusty dry lands
Any chances that they may come up with front magnetic filters for this lenses?
I much, much prefer kase now that I've tried all the brands. Check out why www.hudsonhenry.com/kase on and I love the 112 form factor. Zero concerns with vignetting even stacking. Especially with the ultra thin and simple kase design. Love that the Nikon 112 hood snaps right on the 24-70 2.8, 70-200, 50 1.2 and 14-30 as well. Brilliant.
hey another great compilation of info here. Question, what lightening are you using for your video here? Looks so even and well lit.
In the field, just natural overcast even forest light. In the studio... You wouldn't believe it. hot lights, panel lights, KINO lights. I think I have to hit about 13 switches to get it set up. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Yes I should have been more clear, I was referring to the studio, and that phenomenal lol, Would love to see a behind the scenes sometime.
Great video, very informative! Quick question, if you stack a 112mm nisi CPL and an ND filter will it introduce vignette at the wide end? Thanks!
Great question, just tested that quick here... You can stack them Polarizer out (it has no outer threads and is very thin). There is a miniscule bit of vignetting (I mean tiny) at 14mm, but it disappears by 16. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Excellent! Thanks for taking the time to test that out
Hey Hudson. Great insight into all of this. I learn so much from watching your videos. I’m a little late to the party here but only recently bought the 14-24 f2.8 S lens and immediately bought the Nisi round filter holder with 6 and 10 stop NDs to go with it. I did not realize until this video that Nisi also made a v6 100mm Square filter holder. I already have a Nisi 100mm v6 holder to fit both my 24-70 S and 70-200 S lens. So have I wasted a lot of money buying the dedicated round hood and filters for the 14-24 S? Should (could) I have simply bought an adapter ring for the Nisi v6 holder I already have to attach it to the 14-24 and use the same 100mm square filters instead of carrying two systems?
I suppose it depends on what and where you are shooting and the amount of gear you can carry around. For me, the NiSi lens-hood solution allows me to keep a filter on the lens to protect it from damage. For my 82mm 24-70 and 77mm 70-200, I am using the rather elegant and sexy Polar Pro Summit system with its proprietary filters but this system does not work with the 14-24. Such a shame… Also, as an alternative to the Kase rear-end ND filters which fit across the camera sensor, I am using the Haida rear-end filters which fit into the lens, following the replacement of another piece of plastic with a metal piece. I prefer the idea of adding my filter to the lens rather than the camera.
Are the Lee and Nisi filters interchangeable? I have a Lee holder but want to use the Nisi 10 stop.
Yep. They sure are. It's in my links. :-) www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
Hi, just wonder if Nisi Hood fit 24-70, 70-200, and 50/1.2? The original Nikon HB-97 fit all.
No NiSi built thier hood to the wider grooves of the 14-24 and it does not fit the other lenses. It's also really unnessesarily heavy. I'm not a fan at all. The hb-97 is by far the better of the two I think.
Hey Hudson, here my dilemma, what would you choose the nikon z 14-24 f/2.8 or a combo z 14-30 f/4+ 20mm f/1.8?
14-24. It's so great and it's lighter/smaller than the two others combined. ua-cam.com/video/vTKMA86fylg/v-deo.html The only caveat is if you have a lot invested in high end 82mm filters you love to work with at wide angle. Then it's a big expense to switch to 112mm. I have links here: www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
nice video. did you compare Z 14-24 F/2.8 with more affordable Z 14-30 F/4 (which can use nisi V6) ?
ua-cam.com/video/vTKMA86fylg/v-deo.html
thank you ! super tuto. The title of this 2020 tuto didn't indicate Z 14-30mm was compared.
Is there a filter system for the Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG HSM ART or the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED Lens that you would recoment?
@@johanfehr1740 no. I never used filters with my old 14-24 AFS. There are ways, but they're so awkward. The new HB 97 hood system for the Z 2.8s is worth it's weight in gold. So simple.
@HudsonHenryPhoto OK.
Will the HB 97 hood system work with my 14-24 AFS lens?
@@johanfehr1740 nope. Sadly no. It fits the 14-24 S, 24-70 2.8 S, 70-200 S, 50 1.2 S and 14-30 S. Honestly, the 14-30 S is FAR sharper wide open in the corners than the 14-24 AFS at F4. The shorter flange distance and wider mount opened a new world of performance for the engineers designing S glass. The new 14-24 is flat astounding. For well over a decade, I adored my 14-24 AFS but I can't imagine going back to it now.
Thanks for the very informative review, Hudson. Can you stack two 112mm round filters without vignetting at 14mm? I am sure many, like me would stack a polarizer and ND. Thanks!
There is just the tiniest little bit of vignette in the tips of the corners putting the polarizer outside the ND. It's gone by 16. The polarizer has to go outside as it has no outer thread.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the info, Hudson. Much appreciated!
Just found you Chanel picked up my z6ii loving it
I suffer from serious gas and have to lean down my camera gear can you maybe give some thought feedback etc on the z6 replacing D500 and D850
Anyway Love your content and way you present keep it up
PPS pretty. lol local park
Sorry second question
I have the Nikon 14-24mm f mount could I use that with the case in body filter and will the focus lock wok with the older lens
I think you should be able to see and focus with the old 14-24 too. I haven't tried it, but it's more about the camera sensor and AF than the lens. :-) I think you might struggle with an F4 or F5.6 lens just because it doesn't let in as much light wide open, but not the 2.8s. :-)
Hi, see with the 14-24 2.8 S and the supplied nikon HB-97 hood, do you get any light leaks with the kase magnetic 112mm? They claim not but I see the gap when looking at the hood from behind?
None of the S lenses with hoods have EVER shown any evidence of light leaks ever for me and they all have those little vents. The hb97 in particular? I've used it with cpl, 6, and 10 stop kase filters stacked to get 120s at high noon. No leak at all. Don't worry for a second. I always laugh when I see people claiming it's an issue. It's not.
@HudsonHenryPhoto Hudson thank you so much for your reply. I am a LE nut and I use a Lee 100mm system on the 24-70 2.8S and adore it so I wanted to get a 6, 10 and polariser from kase and stack...keep it simple.
That hb97 snaps right on all the 2.8 S zooms. You'll find the Kase far more neutral than Lee. I have all of that at www.hudsonhenry.com/kase :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks, I will check this out
@@HudsonHenryPhoto getting error when I use my home, or work address - This item will be removed from your cart because there are no delivery methods available for your address.
Kase KW Revolution 112mm Magnetic ND1000 10 Stop Neutral Denisty Filter & Adapter
Kase KW Revolution 112mm Magnetic ND1000 10 Stop Neutral Denisty Filter & Adapter
Thank you for this video! Have you ever REALLY needed info and said hell with it, I will search UA-cam fingers crossed and boom- some smart credible person is there telling you EXACTLY what you need to know. On July 9 I am going to London my 3rd time this year and I just got a Nikon z7II with the "holy trinity" lenses in 2.8. I couldn't find a filter for the 14-24mm and couldn't really find good info with searches- My "search-fu" is weak today. Anyhow lifesaver!!! Oh- using the wide angle for some cityscape and interior stuff. I assist with some gov't agencies in the UK in my real job and I am fortunate enough through these great folks to get some great access to historical buildings but lugging a ton of gear isn't an option.
Did you notice anu blurring issue in corner with kase clip in 10 stop at 14mm?
I really don't use the clip in. I love the round magnetics. No blurring with any of the filters from them that I've tested. They're very close to optically perfect.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for your reply .I recently imported this kase clip in as my back up system as I recently move to 14-24s and z7ii from D850 and tamron 15-30
What are your thoughts on breakthrough photography filters?
They make nice stuff. I preferred Hoya's HD3 and Solas filters when I ran comparisons a while back. I don't think you'll go wrong getting the top of the line Hoya, Kase, NiSi, or Breakthrough filters. I've been running some tests and those brands just stand out for optical quality. Kase is sending me some 112 filters for the 14-24 to test and I'll report back on those too.
Did kase magnetic filters for this now? ?
They sure do. Www.hudsonhenry.com/kase
I am dying for Breakthrough to release their filters for the 12-24 2.8. Breakthrough is such an amazing company and their filters are truly top tier. ... also Kase should be releasing a 112mm mag set shortly. I was looking on your ATS links I cant find the grey card u were using in the links even though it is pictured in your "accessories"
It's part of that larger datacolor at with the colorimeter and cube. I usually carry the little colorchecker I linked in the description from xrite. :)
I had gone off even looking at the 14-24 and plan to keep the 14-30 with my NISI Filter Kit with the flat glass Filters ..So Hudson will that 100mm NISI Filter Holder hold my current NISI 100x150 Flat glass Filters as no ways could I afford the Circular 112mm screw in filters
Yes it does, 100x100mm and 150x100mm filters fit perfectly.
@@peterlooper7956 Thanks So much Peter ..this is the best news of 2020!!
Peter's right. It fits any 100mm filters. :-) No vignetting.
Hi Henry, why you choose UV filters over NC? All the best in 2021, cheers!
NC, UV, Sky the goal of any of them for me is to have as little effect as possible on the image while protecting the lens in rough situations. I eschewed them for years till I scratched a couple of front elements and Hoya asked me to test thier HD3 UV series. I was blown away. I still sometimes remove them for a special scene. It's like a second better lens cap that you can shoot through and pull off to have a perfectly clean element for that special shot. Or it's like armor if the sand and saltwater is blowing.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for a quick response! For the same purpose I got NC for my lenses but always lack of confidence to keep them on shooting. Regards
Hi Henry, is it possible to stack the Nisi 112mm circular filters ? I have the 112mm CPL from Nisi but before adding the ND filters I would like to know if this is possible without getting weird distortion, vignetting etc.
There is no distortion stacking an ND atop the cpl, but you get a very small filter ring vignette at 14mm. It's really not bad, but I've been playing with the new magnetic set from Kase and they stack with no vignette. Both are great filters optically.
Oh first name's Hudson, but no big deal.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto hi Hudson (not Henry sorry for that), thanks for your reply ! Is it right that the Nisi hood for the 14-24mm also fits the 24-70 and 70-200mm ? That would be great because i would be able to use the 112mm filters for all three lenses !!
Sadly NiSi's only fits my 14-24, but the Nikon plastic one does. It also fits the 20 1.8. It's connections are a little thinner than NiSi's and only the 14-24 has the wider grooves to fit it. I mentioned it to them when I tested it.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto ok , the Kase filter ring might block eventual light leakage on the original Nikon hood for the 14-24mm. But I have to find out (don't have the Kase filters yet). Keep you updated.
Might be too late now, but Foolography is having a 1/2 off sale. Picked up the model for D850 for $132 including 2 day FedEx shipping
You'll LOVE it.
Did you order it from Germany? Looks like the sale is still on!
@@gosman949 yes from their website! Good price but the micro USB cable it out of stock so will not delivwe until they get some more (D850 anyway). Good price and t