I would never have thought of using a polarizer for wet leaves for photos in the woods! Game changer! Your intro scene was breathtaking! Awesome video!
I realized this a couple of days ago when I was walking through the woods with polarized sunglasses. I wanted to caputre what I saw because it was beautiful but all the pictures turned out bad. In fact that's why I rewatch this vid :-P
I bought the Kase system from the Kase stand at the photography show earlier in the year. I was talking to Andrew Yu, who’s a director there. He showed me some raw long exposure images of Salford Quays in Lightroom that had absolutely no colour cast. They are really good. I went home and sold most of my Lee stuff. No regrets.
Thank you Nigel for another great video. I ordered a Kase filter kit a few days ago and it's backordered. Sigh... Another great thing that no one ever seems to mention about magnetic filters is how easy it is to combine a polarizing filter with an ND filter relative to doing the same thing with screw-on filters. With screw-on filters we can’t adjust the polarizing filter if we put the ND filter on first because it’s too dark. But if we put the polarizing filter on first and adjust it, it is difficult to avoid changing the orientation of that filter when we screw on the ND filter. With these filters it is easy to add and adjust the polarizing filter and then snap the ND filter on top of it. Done! No fuss!
That initial drone footage is spectacular! I appreciate where you are coming from, on the use of filters. It is such a faff, having to carry multiple sets of filters and then the lens hood won't fit on..... I must check out Kase. Thanks Nigel.
Nigel, just to update...I ordered and received my new Kase filter system and absolutely love it! In fact, I just sold my LEE set-up. Thanks again for the great video.
Great video Nigel, they just seem to be getting better if that's at all possible, nobody produces such variable footage with all the help and advice that you share with us, for which we are grateful, there is nothing like getting advice from a professional photographer, unlike many who just vlog, cannot wait for the Skye videos as I go there every year and have just come back from a three week holiday in Scotland, and I am in fact watching your latest video in the Yorkshire Dales where I am here for a week, Regards, Colin.
2 1/2 years later, I"m so glad I saw this video. I have been looking at buying NiSi fliter holder and KASE graduated ND filters for the past three days. Almost went ahead and bought them. And only real reason I wanted them was to shoot a sunset at the beach I'll be at in a couple of weeks. 🤦🏻♀️.But, you're right.... I can certainly work with my images in post. And I don't want to carry all that equipment as I will be limited on space. I'll save my money and invest in the magnetic filters instead. I currently have some by Breakthrough Photography, but I really like the idea of the magnetic ones. Thanks for always putting out great content Nigel.
Now THAT'S the way you start a video! Have a drone follow you while you narrate. Extremely professional and creative!!! Thanks for the advice as well Nigel!!!
Thanks for the video Nigel - Been using the Kase magnetic system for the last month or so and very impressed. They recently brought out some spare adaptors so you can have more than one lens ready to go. Nice video and pretty much sums up my approach to filters
I dont normally buy things i see on Youtbe videos but have to say these KASE magnetic filters are great they make life so much easier. The people at KASE were really helpful as well and your 5% discount code came in handy so thanks very much Nigel.
i struggled with fitting filters on my camera with all the bulky fixtures. the KASE filter system is awesome. I am so glad I watched the video. Thanks a million.
Hello! Kase recommends going up one dimension in diameter, for example 82mm to 95mm to avoid vignetting problems. Is this anything you have experiences of?
Great tool information. Perhaps you can spend a video on creating a “Graduation Filter” effect in PhotoShop😊 Very interesting sneak preview on your Scotland workshop. Looking forward to your video!
While it can seem a faff to use graduated neutral density filters in the field, it could be argued it's much more of a faff to have to create the effect in post processing afterwards, or to have to take two different images for blending in Photoshop; besides, I like to get my photos as right as possible in camera. I won't be ditching my graduated neutral density filters anytime soon!
I love your honesty!! And, your casual manner with your videos. It is quite refreshing. Excellent video on filters by the way. The thing I find very interesting is that we both shoot the same gear, Nikon Z7 & Fuji X-T3 and we have similar tastes in photographs.
I started off using circular filters but when I stacked them, two filers, I noticed a bit of vignetting creeping in on the edges. So I decided to try the filter holder system. Yes, there is a grad filter in LR but sometimes it has it's own problems. Maybe I'm not adjusting it correctly but if the highlights in the sky are almost blown it's hard to bring back the sky. Yes, I suppose you can expose for the bright sky and then expose for the ground and blend in Photoshop but not all of us have Photoshop. Yes, I know one can do an HDR blend in LR but sometimes the results are not what I hoped for and maybe I'm a bit too picky. I can see where weight makes a big difference. I did a 2.6 mile round trip hike to take pics of waterfalls yesterday and lugging around equipment can be challenging. If they could make a light weight magnetic mount that can do the things a filter holder system can do (best of both worlds so as not to get vignetting) I think I may switch. Thanks for another great video.
Good points. I'm not a purist by any means, but I lean towards trying to "get it right" in the field...IMO post processing should be limited to cropping and a few minor global tweaks. Maybe I'm just getting old.
@@garfieldirwin Same here!!! I don't enjoy spending hours editing just a few images. I would like to get it right in the field. I would rather spend more time outside. The older I get the more I want to be outside because I know eventually I may not be able to get out.
I appreciate the disclosure of your work experience. My beef with filters is that I am fanatic about using hoods, and swapping filters makes this difficult. a drop-in system might be ideal to support various filter usage
I've ordered a K&F concept variable ND. My Cokin set up (despite the it's wide angle holder) caused vignetting on my 77mm diameter lenses, ok on 67mm and lower. And I agree, they are a pain to set up 😱. Lee filters etc are to expensive for my tastes
I also use Lee holders and hi-tec filters, but not often. the only filter I am going to buy will be a Polar Pro variable ND for video, I'll def look into these Kase filters though
After years of using filters, the only filter I use now is a circular polarizer. Sometimes I find myself needing an ND filter, but I'm just too lazy lol
Hi Nigel your videos are so simple to follow and understand love watching them .Again my passion is Motorsport photograph i only use a polarized filter for race tracks it takes away the white glare on the cars windscreens plus brings out the fabulous colours of the cars . However i used a UV filter when i went to Rally GB a couple of years ago .and because i could get closer to the cars .A stone hit the end of my lens lucky it only damaged the filter had i not had it on my Canon f4 would have had a chip in the front glass .So when i shoot rally cars i always keep a U V filter on .
First time here. I dont believe I have ever commented on a first view but....exceptions and all that. Good job with explaining things. I believe the best picture ever taken includes getting the picture taken with a good knowledge of what you want the end result to be. As my Dad used to say, there is only so much a Bessler 22c can do. Yes we are in a digital age now and Lightroom and a few others are amazing but it sure is better not having to fix something that isn't broken to begin with.
One of the parts of long lens + polarizer photography I struggle with is distortion. There's a lot about "the glass" or "the coating" matters, but based on your special background would love to hear your thoughts. So hard to tell what's heat island, what's general lens distortion, and what's filter (esp. a circular polarizer) in shots. Would love some insight there with pixel peeping.
Nice video again dear Nigel ❤❤ , as you said I have't ever thought about graduated ND. I do have a normal ND filter for water photos like the lakes, but a polarizer filter is my best friend and 90% of my photos are with it on.
Hi Nige, can’t wait for next Sunday buddy, really excited already! I believe you’re not very far away from me and I still live in hope to bump into you one of these days to thank you in person for all your wonderful videos. It’s been such a pleasure and inspirational experience to follow your deserved success with your channel over these few short years. Regards, Dazza. 🇬🇧
Great video. I have watched at least a dozen videos on the different filter systems. This one pointed out what I think is the key deciding point for me: I don’t really have a need for a graduated filter. I am very proficient Photoshop. Eliminating the need for a graduated ND, makes the magnetic systems a viable option. Your background in deposition technology also sold me as I have >30 years experience as a Semiconductor Lithography Engineer. I trust Science! Thanks for get me off the fence!
'And you don't want it to smudge'...10:45 water smudges lol. Seriously though I do like the idea of these magnetic filters. I love using filters and the fact I can keep them on plus the lens cap and stick the camera straight back in the bag with them on would be a big plus. I will look them up now but I fear they will be expensive.
Thank you so much for this recommendation. I was looking for a simpler solution to my current filter system. Just like you, I find these so cumbersome. Especially when it is windy. I will definitely buy these.
Late onto this, only just looking at filters and I noticed you had a Fuji XT3 with a 10-24mm lens attached. This is what I use and would like to know what size of filter you opted for? 77mm is minimum so I'm told and maybe even 82mm with appropriate step up rings would be even better to ensure no vignetting on the wider lenses....but interested to see what size you used and if you suffered any vignetting. Thanks for another great video. So glad I came across your chanel and subscribed immediately!!
@@zweiche Yes, I opted for the larger 82mm size and everything is fine. 77mm will work and I there are a couple of youtubers who have this size on the XT3 but if you are looking at wide angle then 82mm is the best way to go.
@@NJM1948 ty i just changed my order from 77 to 82 . How do you find magnets 🧲 , are they strong enough to walk by them attached to lens with neck strap ?
@@zweiche No problem with the strength of the magnetism - they are secure. However, I only ever use one at a time so can't comment on multiple filters used together.
@@NJM1948 appreciate , my money was only enough for 6stop nd and cpl , i only bought 2 filters , i hope they will be enough, and i might consider stacking both for longer exposure , also i guess 6 stop will be good for video as well
I still have the screw-in filters from twenty years ago (and the Lee drop-in graduated ND which I never use any more, either). I am going to try the magnetic system since I need ND filters, anyway. I can also buy two bases and don't have to swap screw-in filters on the two lenses I use the most that use the same 77mm filter. Brillant!
So is the polarizing effect the only thing that can't be duplicated in Light Room/Photoshop? What about colored filters when doing black and white? A cool thing you can do using two regular polarizers (non-circular) is stack them together and rotate one of them. They will go from a slight density filter to almost opaque. This will also keep the autofocus from working. I think you can avoid having to use an ND filter by adjusting the ISO and the darkest F-stop.
I think the comment that ND grads aren't needed for correcting high dynamic range assumes you are shooting digital. If you are shooting medium or large format film it gets very expensive to bracket. There's also something quite magical about getting the exposure balanced well in a single shot, especially on slide film! It's really lovely to look at it on a light table and have it look great already.
Was just about to buy a set of Lee ND filters when I found your video, thanks for your advice and for saving me some money. Always worth doing thorough research!
Personally, I have stopped using granduated ND filters and just stick with solid (non-variable) ones. I guess It's a matter of preference though. Mainly because I feel that is the one time I'd rather create the effect in post than in camera (And thus, have the effect baked into my image). RAW processing software has gotten so good over the years, I don't see much of a need for using a graduated ND filter (I do have a few, but haven't used them in at last the past year or two). Usually the two filters of choice for my photograph is a CPL and something like a 3 or 6-stop ND filter. (When traveling i carry a few different NDs just in case, but if I'm out for a hike, it's usually just a CPL and a 6-stop ND).
Hi, Nigel. Thats a great idea. As a Fuji shooter, which sise Kase Circular Magnetic filters are you using please? I am uncertain which to go for, either the 77mm or the 82mm. I intened to use the XF10-24mm lens fo looking to avoid vignetting. Mant thanks as it would avoid me making a costly mistake.
I do a good bit of long exposure so I need ND filters. I use the Manfrotto Xume magnetic system with my Hoya filters. I buy all my filters in 82mm and a step up ring if the lens is not 82mm so that I can use one set of filters on all my lens. I don't use Grad ND filters for the reasons you stated, save so much space and weight and time.
I use this system now and loooove it. All except the magnetic lens cap which always comes off in my camera bag. Simple to use, zero colourcast and a sexy leather pouch - whats not to like 😜
The leaves (and everything else) are almost ALWAYS wet where I live... lol. My CPL practically lives on my camera for that reason. I'd prefer it not to, but for the majority of shots I take, it does improve results.
A polarizer works on any kind of reflected light especially when take at right angles from the sun. It works on dry leaves too, just not as dramatically as when they are wet.
@@djolley61 not on „any kind”, however. It doesn’t cut off light reflected off non-metalic objects, only polarised light - eg. coming from water or glass srfaces.
LOL - You crack me up, Nigel. I'm half expecting and maybe even hoping your next video to be shot from the surface of Mars with a wide angle drone coming up from a deep cavern while you prattle on about, "It's not always about trees. Don't make the same mistake I did and forget to look at the color and the warmth of the shy and the tones it brings to the overall landscape. Remember to let the picture come to you." No, Mr. Danson. Sometimes it is all about location. Great opening segment. Really great location!
I have a set of Cokin's ND and I don't use them much really. However, whenever I need to, I just put on the ring on the lens and hold the filter with a clipper and that's it. No holder, no fuss. Ironically though, as much as polarizer is typically used to reduce reflections, in fact I use it sometimes to enhance reflections (specially in still life and product shooting). Have you tried infrared filters?
Back in the day, I used to work for Hughes Aircraft as well. Thanks for sharing another great video. That opening drone footage is stunning. I really like the idea of these filters as I hate carrying so much around. I'll need to check them out. Thanks again.
I actually have to disagree one one point here. Namely the graduated filter. My x-t2 even if it has decent dynamic range is nowhere near the dr beasts of nikon for instance and many times I've been using it I simply haven't been able to take multiple exposures stacking them in lr. I simply can't pull out the same amount of details from shadows or highlights without balancing it on site so to speak. And thanks for the tips with the polarizer when shooting leaves. Haven't thought of that at all 😊
@@NigelDanson Haven't tried much on the other hand but I find it very difficult to nail the exposure properly to the extent that I can get two perfectly exposed pictures when dealing with exposures time of about 6-10 minutes. Guess I need to give it a try again though. What are those problems?
@@oneeyedphotographer Well... Thats a bit of the problem. Convert a "two stop" difference into 8 minute exposure when going by the manufacturers list is pretty darn tricky tbh. It might be 7 minutes but it can without any problems go up to 9 or even close to 10 depending on the situation och the amount of filters you use. That's why I prefer graduated filter. Its easier to get right the first try. But I get what you are saying!
Love the simplicity of the Kase system, never heard of it before. Over time I’ve chosen my kit to work around lee’s Seven5 system which I suppose limits the types of lenses I can choose but it’s all about simplicity and compactness when I’ve dropped and broken all the filters I’ll give Kase a go.
you all prolly dont give a damn but does someone know a trick to log back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid forgot my login password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Zechariah Donald Thanks for your reply. I found the site thru google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. Takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Thank you for this beautiful video, I am convinced of the importance of simplifying the shooting process and therefore limiting the equipment to carry in landscape photography. So I'm more likely to buy the circular filters, BUT, I have a 14-24mm sigma f2.8 without screw thread... And it's a lens that I use a lot in landscape. I don't want to buy a kit of square filters and a kit of circular ones. In this case what would you recommend? Thank you
I have a set of Cokin NDs and Cokin ND Grads. They have a magenta cast of you stack them. I bought a Tokina 11-20 and they don’t fit. I was thinking of upgrading to Lee or something but I really have all but stopped using them so I didn’t bother. Far happier to bracket or trust Lightroom to recover enough highlights or shadows. I have decent polarisers for my main lenses. I use them a lot so money well spent. And some cheap circular 10 stoppers off Amazon. I rarely use one but when you need one, you can’t replicate it. I got lucky because they don’t affect sharpness much and are pretty colour neutral.
Thanks for this Nigel. Started off using Hoya screw-ons. Wanted better glass so got the Nisi system great filters but definitely not robust. Quite fiddly to mount - feel thin. Already broken one polariser & damaged another. Not much sympathy from Nisi either, despite my research finding some pros have similar issues. Might check out the Kase system. 👍
I revisited Elgol a year or so ago, and those boats moored in the bay look familiar. :) If you get the chance take the boat trip from the pier to Loch Coruisk, or even better if there's lots of time do the costal walk from Elgol via The Bad Step (you can always walk there and get the boat back). Happy memories. Elgol is a magical place though, fantastic atmosphere.
Great video. Is it better if your lens thread is 77mm to use a larger filter such as 82mm in order to get rid of vignetting? In other words, does using the same size filter cause vignetting?
Thanks and interesting. I often use CPLs as I do enjoy the images they help me render - I’m talking about places such as Australia and the American SW. Next March we’re off to Namibia and I’m concerned about blown highlights and wonder if multiple exposures taken over +/- a few stops will work? Or just get a magnetic step-up ring ND/VND. Thanks.
I’m a few years late but this is a great video! Thanks. I find grads to be a huge help for shooting Time lapses or video so there’s that. But dynamic range is getting so good that it’s not really necessary all the time!
Oooo those Kase filters look rather natty! I tend to leave a polariser on all the time. PITA when I want to add another filter on, or the Lee adapter / ring, and have had problems with the filter getting stuck or stuck together! This could be a perfect solution! But as I tend to leave the polariser on and carry the camera on my strap, are they likely to get knocked off easily???
Nice video - I like the idea of the Kase screw on filters but like me if you have different lenses with various filter thread sizes it's going to be a costly investment!! But I'm guessing step up rings will work too .
Thanks Nigel and sorry I didn’t bump into you this time. Love seeing other photographers visit Skye and seeing their perspective on familiar places. Look forward to next few videos and great info about filters. Never owned any yet and think I’ll stay that way after your advice. 👍 Thanks
Hi Nigel, thanks for the video. It's always such a disappointment to buy into one system, only to find there is a better system around the corner.I use Lee filters with great results, but I do find the filters are hard to clean on the fly in wet conditions (especially fine sea spray). I'm not sure I will update any time soon, however the Kase filters look like the solution. Nice recommendation.
I find this series to be genuinely interesting and useful. I know some of most of the subject matter being covered, but they really add context and detail. PhD?! Should we address you more appropriately... Doc Danson?
I have a Panasonic Lumix FZ2000 bridge camera, and it has a built in ND filter with different gradations. So the only filter I carry is a polarizer. Interesting video as always, thankyou Nigel
I have the Benro System and I love it.. I get the system you are showing...looks awesome very simple but I'm not about to change. There is always something new.. I can't keep up..LOL Thanks for all this info...great vlog!!
Thanx for the filter advice Nigel, I currently use Cokin P series with my Pentax K3ii and the polariser I use most often but sometimes I use screw on UV filter just to protect my lenses. I'm still working on learning ND filters and their benefits and a lot to take in at times. Best wishes safe travels wherever you are going.
Very intreresting ideas and suggestions. It's been a while since you did this video, but I find it very informative and up tp date as I prepare for my upcoming trip to Ireland in two weeks. I appreciate all your suggestions, from your experiences. 👌👍😎👀📷
Thank you as always Nigel for your excellent work. What is your opinion on neutral UV filters as a protector for our lenses. I diligently use my hoods, but I feel that additional piece of glass is a bit extra protection. Thank you
I will have to check out those kase filters, some many different systems out there it get confusing, your video make it seem simple. Cant wait for the Sky video next week, I am a bit biased towards the Scottish videos.
I think the Isle of Skye is my favourite part of this planet (that is, in summer when it's not raining). Good point about using post production to avoid using some filters. I'm still keen to carry some filters with me.
Hi Nigel, very interesting video, but a few thought about the Kase filter system. It is, I assume not possible to use the lens hood. And that I think is a disadvantage. Looking forward for the next video!
Correct - still can't use lens hood - one of the many reasons I still dislike filters. but these are the best of what is available (or what I have found)
Great video and very timely as I’ve been looking for a alternative to my Lee Seven5 System. On the Fujifilm 10-24mm f4 which Kase filter size are you using? Obviously I want to avoid any vignettes if stacking 2 filters so unsure whether to go the 72mm or 77mm. Oh BTW this year’s calendar looks awesome and cheers for the cards.
Hello Nigel Danson. Great drone footage 👏 Quick question.. What if do we need to use these filters on different lenses with different diameter? Do we have adapters available for all the lenses? Is there any universal adapter to hold these magnetic filters? What is the best possible way to use these filters? Ur thumbnail is a Nikon z system which u didn't talk about in the video.
I would never have thought of using a polarizer for wet leaves for photos in the woods! Game changer! Your intro scene was breathtaking! Awesome video!
I realized this a couple of days ago when I was walking through the woods with polarized sunglasses. I wanted to caputre what I saw because it was beautiful but all the pictures turned out bad. In fact that's why I rewatch this vid :-P
I started using a polarizer almost full-time because I noticed you could change color saturation on surfaces, at least some of the time.
I bought the Kase system from the Kase stand at the photography show earlier in the year. I was talking to Andrew Yu, who’s a director there. He showed me some raw long exposure images of Salford Quays in Lightroom that had absolutely no colour cast. They are really good. I went home and sold most of my Lee stuff. No regrets.
Dissipating cows... is that where evaporated milk comes from? Love the vids, THANKS!
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A cow that gets an abortion: "De-calfinated". Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...
Thank you Nigel for another great video. I ordered a Kase filter kit a few days ago and it's backordered. Sigh... Another great thing that no one ever seems to mention about magnetic filters is how easy it is to combine a polarizing filter with an ND filter relative to doing the same thing with screw-on filters. With screw-on filters we can’t adjust the polarizing filter if we put the ND filter on first because it’s too dark. But if we put the polarizing filter on first and adjust it, it is difficult to avoid changing the orientation of that filter when we screw on the ND filter. With these filters it is easy to add and adjust the polarizing filter and then snap the ND filter on top of it. Done! No fuss!
"...so I feel like I know quite a bit about lens technology, coating technology..." understatement of year given that thesis!
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That initial drone footage is spectacular! I appreciate where you are coming from, on the use of filters. It is such a faff, having to carry multiple sets of filters and then the lens hood won't fit on..... I must check out Kase. Thanks Nigel.
I really like #1 tip the best and your quick summation of all of them "a pain in the a**" - can't wait for next weeks vid - Wow!
Nigel, just to update...I ordered and received my new Kase filter system and absolutely love it! In fact, I just sold my LEE set-up. Thanks again for the great video.
Great video Nigel, they just seem to be getting better if that's at all possible, nobody produces such variable footage with all the help and advice that you share with us, for which we are grateful, there is nothing like getting advice from a professional photographer, unlike many who just vlog, cannot wait for the Skye videos as I go there every year and have just come back from a three week holiday in Scotland, and I am in fact watching your latest video in the Yorkshire Dales where I am here for a week, Regards, Colin.
That opening scen with the camera moves around you on the cliff is absolutely amazing
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Funnily enough I purchased the Kase Polariser this week as having limited feeling and mobility in my fingers I find it so much easier to use.
Brilliant point and sorry about your fingers. It is great that you are still out there shooting photographs! Don't let anything stop you!
@michael - I have a rare neurological condition which means that my nerves are slowing dying so I am losing all feeling in my fingers.
OMG what a beautiful opening scene!!!
2 1/2 years later, I"m so glad I saw this video. I have been looking at buying NiSi fliter holder and KASE graduated ND filters for the past three days. Almost went ahead and bought them. And only real reason I wanted them was to shoot a sunset at the beach I'll be at in a couple of weeks. 🤦🏻♀️.But, you're right.... I can certainly work with my images in post. And I don't want to carry all that equipment as I will be limited on space. I'll save my money and invest in the magnetic filters instead. I currently have some by Breakthrough Photography, but I really like the idea of the magnetic ones. Thanks for always putting out great content Nigel.
Now THAT'S the way you start a video! Have a drone follow you while you narrate. Extremely professional and creative!!! Thanks for the advice as well Nigel!!!
Thanks for the video Nigel - Been using the Kase magnetic system for the last month or so and very impressed. They recently brought out some spare adaptors so you can have more than one lens ready to go. Nice video and pretty much sums up my approach to filters
I dont normally buy things i see on Youtbe videos but have to say these KASE magnetic filters are great they make life so much easier. The people at KASE were really helpful as well and your 5% discount code came in handy so thanks very much Nigel.
i struggled with fitting filters on my camera with all the bulky fixtures. the KASE filter system is awesome. I am so glad I watched the video.
Thanks a million.
Hello!
Kase recommends going up one dimension in diameter, for example 82mm to 95mm to avoid vignetting problems. Is this anything you have experiences of?
Was wondering the same thing.
Magnetic filters...brilliant! And here İ thought nothing could surprise me. That İS helpful! Cheers!
The cut at 11:16 had me like woah! So beautiful!
Great tool information. Perhaps you can spend a video on creating a “Graduation Filter” effect in PhotoShop😊
Very interesting sneak preview on your Scotland workshop. Looking forward to your video!
It's the simplest thing honestly and will save you hundreds of dollars
While it can seem a faff to use graduated neutral density filters in the field, it could be argued it's much more of a faff to have to create the effect in post processing afterwards, or to have to take two different images for blending in Photoshop; besides, I like to get my photos as right as possible in camera. I won't be ditching my graduated neutral density filters anytime soon!
I love your honesty!! And, your casual manner with your videos. It is quite refreshing. Excellent video on filters by the way. The thing I find very interesting is that we both shoot the same gear, Nikon Z7 & Fuji X-T3 and we have similar tastes in photographs.
I started off using circular filters but when I stacked them, two filers, I noticed a bit of vignetting creeping in on the edges. So I decided to try the filter holder system. Yes, there is a grad filter in LR but sometimes it has it's own problems. Maybe I'm not adjusting it correctly but if the highlights in the sky are almost blown it's hard to bring back the sky. Yes, I suppose you can expose for the bright sky and then expose for the ground and blend in Photoshop but not all of us have Photoshop. Yes, I know one can do an HDR blend in LR but sometimes the results are not what I hoped for and maybe I'm a bit too picky. I can see where weight makes a big difference. I did a 2.6 mile round trip hike to take pics of waterfalls yesterday and lugging around equipment can be challenging. If they could make a light weight magnetic mount that can do the things a filter holder system can do (best of both worlds so as not to get vignetting) I think I may switch. Thanks for another great video.
Good points. I'm not a purist by any means, but I lean towards trying to "get it right" in the field...IMO post processing should be limited to cropping and a few minor global tweaks. Maybe I'm just getting old.
@@garfieldirwin Same here!!! I don't enjoy spending hours editing just a few images. I would like to get it right in the field. I would rather spend more time outside. The older I get the more I want to be outside because I know eventually I may not be able to get out.
I appreciate the disclosure of your work experience.
My beef with filters is that I am fanatic about using hoods, and swapping filters makes this difficult. a drop-in system might be ideal to support various filter usage
I've ordered a K&F concept variable ND. My Cokin set up (despite the it's wide angle holder) caused vignetting on my 77mm diameter lenses, ok on 67mm and lower. And I agree, they are a pain to set up 😱. Lee filters etc are to expensive for my tastes
WOW! What a viewpoint!! I got magnetic filters and finally, I can EASILY take off the CPL filters!
I also use Lee holders and hi-tec filters, but not often. the only filter I am going to buy will be a Polar Pro variable ND for video, I'll def look into these Kase filters though
I have used the kase filters for 18 months now. Awesome filters. The magnetic ones are on my list, really love the concept and simplicity of them.
2:35 “...which doesn’t make me love it any more...” LOL
I always enjoy your wit and perspective, Nigel. Thanks for another great video.
Help me! I'm still laughing!!!
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After years of using filters, the only filter I use now is a circular polarizer. Sometimes I find myself needing an ND filter, but I'm just too lazy lol
Hi Nigel your videos are so simple to follow and understand love watching them .Again my passion is Motorsport photograph i only use a polarized filter for race tracks it takes away the white glare on the cars windscreens plus brings out the fabulous colours of the cars .
However i used a UV filter when i went to Rally GB a couple of years ago .and because i could get closer to the cars .A stone hit the end of my lens lucky it only damaged the filter had i not had it on my Canon f4 would have had a chip in the front glass .So when i shoot rally cars i always keep a U V filter on .
First time here. I dont believe I have ever commented on a first view but....exceptions and all that.
Good job with explaining things. I believe the best picture ever taken includes getting the picture taken with a good knowledge of what you want the end result to be.
As my Dad used to say, there is only so much a Bessler 22c can do.
Yes we are in a digital age now and Lightroom and a few others are amazing but it sure is better not having to fix something that isn't broken to begin with.
One of the parts of long lens + polarizer photography I struggle with is distortion. There's a lot about "the glass" or "the coating" matters, but based on your special background would love to hear your thoughts. So hard to tell what's heat island, what's general lens distortion, and what's filter (esp. a circular polarizer) in shots. Would love some insight there with pixel peeping.
Fantastic to see you all again.
That opening shot was a crazy flex!
Nice video again dear Nigel ❤❤ , as you said I have't ever thought about graduated ND.
I do have a normal ND filter for water photos like the lakes, but a polarizer filter is my best friend and 90% of my photos are with it on.
Manfrotto do a magnetic ring to make all your screw on filters a simple clip on and off, which are a great too.
Nigel, you're an inspiration! Love seeing all your videos.
Hi Nige, can’t wait for next Sunday buddy, really excited already!
I believe you’re not very far away from me and I still live in hope to bump into you one of these days to thank you in person for all your wonderful videos.
It’s been such a pleasure and inspirational experience to follow your deserved success with your channel over these few short years.
Regards,
Dazza. 🇬🇧
Just love Skye, the Quiraing, Loch Coruisk etc. look forward to watching that blog. All the best from Callander.
Great video. I have watched at least a dozen videos on the different filter systems. This one pointed out what I think is the key deciding point for me: I don’t really have a need for a graduated filter. I am very proficient Photoshop. Eliminating the need for a graduated ND, makes the magnetic systems a viable option. Your background in deposition technology also sold me as I have >30 years experience as a Semiconductor Lithography Engineer. I trust Science! Thanks for get me off the fence!
'And you don't want it to smudge'...10:45 water smudges lol. Seriously though I do like the idea of these magnetic filters. I love using filters and the fact I can keep them on plus the lens cap and stick the camera straight back in the bag with them on would be a big plus. I will look them up now but I fear they will be expensive.
Thank you so much for this recommendation. I was looking for a simpler solution to my current filter system. Just like you, I find these so cumbersome. Especially when it is windy. I will definitely buy these.
Interesting filter system! How is the vignetting when stacking a couple of those filters?
Late onto this, only just looking at filters and I noticed you had a Fuji XT3 with a 10-24mm lens attached. This is what I use and would like to know what size of filter you opted for? 77mm is minimum so I'm told and maybe even 82mm with appropriate step up rings would be even better to ensure no vignetting on the wider lenses....but interested to see what size you used and if you suffered any vignetting. Thanks for another great video. So glad I came across your chanel and subscribed immediately!!
any news on this? I am on same boat Nigel
@@zweiche Yes, I opted for the larger 82mm size and everything is fine. 77mm will work and I there are a couple of youtubers who have this size on the XT3 but if you are looking at wide angle then 82mm is the best way to go.
@@NJM1948 ty i just changed my order from 77 to 82 . How do you find magnets 🧲 , are they strong enough to walk by them attached to lens with neck strap ?
@@zweiche No problem with the strength of the magnetism - they are secure. However, I only ever use one at a time so can't comment on multiple filters used together.
@@NJM1948 appreciate , my money was only enough for 6stop nd and cpl , i only bought 2 filters , i hope they will be enough, and i might consider stacking both for longer exposure , also i guess 6 stop will be good for video as well
Thanks Nigel. I sold my Lee kit a while ago for exactly the reason you stated :) Have ordered a Kase kit now.
Yeh. Good overview mate. I too use Kase Filters and have a been a big advocate for them for years now here in Italy.
I still have the screw-in filters from twenty years ago (and the Lee drop-in graduated ND which I never use any more, either). I am going to try the magnetic system since I need ND filters, anyway. I can also buy two bases and don't have to swap screw-in filters on the two lenses I use the most that use the same 77mm filter. Brillant!
This presentation is The Facts of Life about using filters. Am a novice and getting to understand filters better. Thumbs Up for the sharing.
So is the polarizing effect the only thing that can't be duplicated in Light Room/Photoshop? What about colored filters when doing black and white? A cool thing you can do using two regular polarizers (non-circular) is stack them together and rotate one of them. They will go from a slight density filter to almost opaque. This will also keep the autofocus from working. I think you can avoid having to use an ND filter by adjusting the ISO and the darkest F-stop.
I think the comment that ND grads aren't needed for correcting high dynamic range assumes you are shooting digital. If you are shooting medium or large format film it gets very expensive to bracket. There's also something quite magical about getting the exposure balanced well in a single shot, especially on slide film! It's really lovely to look at it on a light table and have it look great already.
Was just about to buy a set of Lee ND filters when I found your video, thanks for your advice and for saving me some money. Always worth doing thorough research!
Awesome - you won’t regret that decision
Personally, I have stopped using granduated ND filters and just stick with solid (non-variable) ones. I guess It's a matter of preference though. Mainly because I feel that is the one time I'd rather create the effect in post than in camera (And thus, have the effect baked into my image). RAW processing software has gotten so good over the years, I don't see much of a need for using a graduated ND filter (I do have a few, but haven't used them in at last the past year or two). Usually the two filters of choice for my photograph is a CPL and something like a 3 or 6-stop ND filter. (When traveling i carry a few different NDs just in case, but if I'm out for a hike, it's usually just a CPL and a 6-stop ND).
Hi, Nigel. Thats a great idea. As a Fuji shooter, which sise Kase Circular Magnetic filters are you using please? I am uncertain which to go for, either the 77mm or the 82mm. I intened to use the XF10-24mm lens fo looking to avoid vignetting. Mant thanks as it would avoid me making a costly mistake.
Update. I purchased the 82mm version. Can stack 3 filters without any vignette. And there brilliant to use.
@@abacab1701 Hi which mm is it on that lense and do you have a direct link to the kit you purchused?
I do a good bit of long exposure so I need ND filters. I use the Manfrotto Xume magnetic system with my Hoya filters. I buy all my filters in 82mm and a step up ring if the lens is not 82mm so that I can use one set of filters on all my lens. I don't use Grad ND filters for the reasons you stated, save so much space and weight and time.
I use this system now and loooove it. All except the magnetic lens cap which always comes off in my camera bag. Simple to use, zero colourcast and a sexy leather pouch - whats not to like 😜
The leaves (and everything else) are almost ALWAYS wet where I live... lol. My CPL practically lives on my camera for that reason. I'd prefer it not to, but for the majority of shots I take, it does improve results.
A polarizer works on any kind of reflected light especially when take at right angles from the sun. It works on dry leaves too, just not as dramatically as when they are wet.
@@djolley61 not on „any kind”, however. It doesn’t cut off light reflected off non-metalic objects, only polarised light - eg. coming from water or glass srfaces.
I totally agree on filters with you. My circ filter is my most used. The long exposure is nice but also a trick in the end.
LOL - You crack me up, Nigel. I'm half expecting and maybe even hoping your next video to be shot from the surface of Mars with a wide angle drone coming up from a deep cavern while you prattle on about, "It's not always about trees. Don't make the same mistake I did and forget to look at the color and the warmth of the shy and the tones it brings to the overall landscape. Remember to let the picture come to you." No, Mr. Danson. Sometimes it is all about location. Great opening segment. Really great location!
I have a set of Cokin's ND and I don't use them much really. However, whenever I need to, I just put on the ring on the lens and hold the filter with a clipper and that's it. No holder, no fuss.
Ironically though, as much as polarizer is typically used to reduce reflections, in fact I use it sometimes to enhance reflections (specially in still life and product shooting). Have you tried infrared filters?
Dang! I only have two real thumbs for this brilliant presentation! So here’s the virtual 5 star version 👍👍👍👍👍 😃
Back in the day, I used to work for Hughes Aircraft as well. Thanks for sharing another great video. That opening drone footage is stunning. I really like the idea of these filters as I hate carrying so much around. I'll need to check them out. Thanks again.
Good discussion. That drone shot of you on the peak is awesome.
Thanks Nigel, i love your videos and newsletter. As a new photographer, they help a lot.x
I actually have to disagree one one point here. Namely the graduated filter. My x-t2 even if it has decent dynamic range is nowhere near the dr beasts of nikon for instance and many times I've been using it I simply haven't been able to take multiple exposures stacking them in lr.
I simply can't pull out the same amount of details from shadows or highlights without balancing it on site so to speak.
And thanks for the tips with the polarizer when shooting leaves. Haven't thought of that at all 😊
Hi - you can pull out more by stacking. Loads of videos on it if you search UA-cam. Also - grad filters cause problems in all but seascape situations.
@@NigelDanson Haven't tried much on the other hand but I find it very difficult to nail the exposure properly to the extent that I can get two perfectly exposed pictures when dealing with exposures time of about 6-10 minutes. Guess I need to give it a try again though.
What are those problems?
@@oneeyedphotographer Well... Thats a bit of the problem. Convert a "two stop" difference into 8 minute exposure when going by the manufacturers list is pretty darn tricky tbh. It might be 7 minutes but it can without any problems go up to 9 or even close to 10 depending on the situation och the amount of filters you use. That's why I prefer graduated filter. Its easier to get right the first try. But I get what you are saying!
Love the simplicity of the Kase system, never heard of it before. Over time I’ve chosen my kit to work around lee’s Seven5 system which I suppose limits the types of lenses I can choose but it’s all about simplicity and compactness when I’ve dropped and broken all the filters I’ll give Kase a go.
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Thank you for this beautiful video, I am convinced of the importance of simplifying the shooting process and therefore limiting the equipment to carry in landscape photography. So I'm more likely to buy the circular filters, BUT, I have a 14-24mm sigma f2.8 without screw thread... And it's a lens that I use a lot in landscape. I don't want to buy a kit of square filters and a kit of circular ones. In this case what would you recommend? Thank you
I have a set of Cokin NDs and Cokin ND Grads. They have a magenta cast of you stack them. I bought a Tokina 11-20 and they don’t fit. I was thinking of upgrading to Lee or something but I really have all but stopped using them so I didn’t bother. Far happier to bracket or trust Lightroom to recover enough highlights or shadows.
I have decent polarisers for my main lenses. I use them a lot so money well spent.
And some cheap circular 10 stoppers off Amazon. I rarely use one but when you need one, you can’t replicate it. I got lucky because they don’t affect sharpness much and are pretty colour neutral.
Thanks for this Nigel. Started off using Hoya screw-ons. Wanted better glass so got the Nisi system great filters but definitely not robust. Quite fiddly to mount - feel thin. Already broken one polariser & damaged another. Not much sympathy from Nisi either, despite my research finding some pros have similar issues. Might check out the Kase system. 👍
Fascinating to hear about your background. Maybe you could do an episode on your journey from “normal person” to photographer
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I revisited Elgol a year or so ago, and those boats moored in the bay look familiar. :) If you get the chance take the boat trip from the pier to Loch Coruisk, or even better if there's lots of time do the costal walk from Elgol via The Bad Step (you can always walk there and get the boat back). Happy memories. Elgol is a magical place though, fantastic atmosphere.
Thanks for the advice!
Thanks to youtube for drawing my attention to your channel, Nigel :)
Subscribed and still enjoying!
Great video. Is it better if your lens thread is 77mm to use a larger filter such as 82mm in order to get rid of vignetting? In other words, does using the same size filter cause vignetting?
Thanks and interesting. I often use CPLs as I do enjoy the images they help me render - I’m talking about places such as Australia and the American SW. Next March we’re off to Namibia and I’m concerned about blown highlights and wonder if multiple exposures taken over +/- a few stops will work? Or just get a magnetic step-up ring ND/VND. Thanks.
I must say that kit from kase I have been looking at and I think it's where I am going to head. Great stuff.
Really very informative vlog, Nigel. Very precise and handy. Thank you.
I’m a few years late but this is a great video! Thanks. I find grads to be a huge help for shooting Time lapses or video so there’s that. But dynamic range is getting so good that it’s not really necessary all the time!
Ultimate opening scene! Amazing!
I wasn't "into" photography when I visited Skye many years ago. If only … Looking forward to next week's video. I don't have any filters at all.
Awesome drone shot and great explanation!!!!
11:50 is simply awesome and it's a good thing drone's aren't afraid of heights!
Oooo those Kase filters look rather natty! I tend to leave a polariser on all the time. PITA when I want to add another filter on, or the Lee adapter / ring, and have had problems with the filter getting stuck or stuck together! This could be a perfect solution! But as I tend to leave the polariser on and carry the camera on my strap, are they likely to get knocked off easily???
Nice video - I like the idea of the Kase screw on filters but like me if you have different lenses with various filter thread sizes it's going to be a costly investment!! But I'm guessing step up rings will work too .
Great video, thanks for taking the time. Looking forward to next week's, that looks like a beautiful spot.
Thanks Nigel and sorry I didn’t bump into you this time. Love seeing other photographers visit Skye and seeing their perspective on familiar places. Look forward to next few videos and great info about filters. Never owned any yet and think I’ll stay that way after your advice. 👍 Thanks
Yep - good move! Polariser is the one if you do go that way...
Maybe I’ll just get a pair of massive sunglasses and use them. I also have ski goggles o could use 😂
Hi Nigel, thanks for the video. It's always such a disappointment to buy into one system, only to find there is a better system around the corner.I use Lee filters with great results, but I do find the filters are hard to clean on the fly in wet conditions (especially fine sea spray). I'm not sure I will update any time soon, however the Kase filters look like the solution. Nice recommendation.
Yeah - but they will be fine and if you are like me only use them sparingly
I find this series to be genuinely interesting and useful. I know some of most of the subject matter being covered, but they really add context and detail. PhD?! Should we address you more appropriately... Doc Danson?
Ha ha - thanks
I have a Panasonic Lumix FZ2000 bridge camera, and it has a built in ND filter with different gradations. So the only filter I carry is a polarizer. Interesting video as always, thankyou Nigel
Built in ND filters are great!
I have the Benro System and I love it.. I get the system you are showing...looks awesome very simple but I'm not about to change. There is always something new.. I can't keep up..LOL Thanks for all this info...great vlog!!
Really wonderful content, learning lots about photography and enjoying your shots! Keep it up mate
Thanx for the filter advice Nigel, I currently use Cokin P series with my Pentax K3ii and the polariser I use most often but sometimes I use screw on UV filter just to protect my lenses. I'm still working on learning ND filters and their benefits and a lot to take in at times. Best wishes safe travels wherever you are going.
Is UV filter necessary when shooting in a very sunny day? I'm considering buying one to protect the camera and lenses
Very intreresting ideas and suggestions. It's been a while since you did this video, but I find it very informative and up tp date as I prepare for my upcoming trip to Ireland in two weeks. I appreciate all your suggestions, from your experiences. 👌👍😎👀📷
Thank you as always Nigel for your excellent work. What is your opinion on neutral UV filters as a protector for our lenses. I diligently use my hoods, but I feel that additional piece of glass is a bit extra protection. Thank you
I will have to check out those kase filters, some many different systems out there it get confusing, your video make it seem simple. Cant wait for the Sky video next week, I am a bit biased towards the Scottish videos.
I think the Isle of Skye is my favourite part of this planet (that is, in summer when it's not raining). Good point about using post production to avoid using some filters. I'm still keen to carry some filters with me.
Hi Nigel, very interesting video, but a few thought about the Kase filter system. It is, I assume not possible to use the lens hood. And that I think is a disadvantage.
Looking forward for the next video!
Correct - still can't use lens hood - one of the many reasons I still dislike filters. but these are the best of what is available (or what I have found)
Great video and very timely as I’ve been looking for a alternative to my Lee Seven5 System. On the Fujifilm 10-24mm f4 which Kase filter size are you using? Obviously I want to avoid any vignettes if stacking 2 filters so unsure whether to go the 72mm or 77mm. Oh BTW this year’s calendar looks awesome and cheers for the cards.
Hello Nigel Danson. Great drone footage 👏
Quick question..
What if do we need to use these filters on different lenses with different diameter?
Do we have adapters available for all the lenses? Is there any universal adapter to hold these magnetic filters? What is the best possible way to use these filters?
Ur thumbnail is a Nikon z system which u didn't talk about in the video.
There are filter adaptor rings. Im going to buy the kase 82mm and use a step down filter rings when i need to. I hope they have a big stopper.