Why Amazon, UPS and Others Are Filling Warehouses Along This Arizona Highway | WSJ
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- Amazon, Walmart, UPS and other companies are filling warehouses along Arizona’s Loop 303. This 17-mile stretch of highway outside Phoenix has become a logistics hub for companies looking to avoid supply-chain bottlenecks.
WSJ explores how this real estate hot spot has become one of the fastest-growing distribution markets in the U.S.
0:00 Industrial real estate
0:30 What’s happening?
2:04 Availability and access
3:18 Population growth and supply chain
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Its terrible that none of these are connected to the rail system, instead they use the least efficient mode of transit, trucks. But that's mainly because the Class 1 railroads fail at doing basic tasks like marketing and actually serving any costumers besides long distance freight.
So it should have been a railway that is a logistics hub. The class one railroads are horrible in every way.
I love your videos
Hey Alan, love watching your videos. However, it doesn't matter if these warehouses are built next to rail or not if they are built on land that is farmable and is able to bring down food prices. It's asinine to build buildings on top of land that is actually able to grow food on and lower food prices for average Americans. You can't eat buildings.
@@WPaKFamily The looming water shortages are going to make farming in Arizona untenable sooner rather than later. It will be come useless "farm" land if undeveloped.
@@WPaKFamily Yea but those land in Arizona is not actually suitable for agriculture. It's dry and arid. Probably more productive to put storage facilities there.
We moved out here 10 years ago and loved the solitude and open space. Having worked in distribution for the last 20 years I understand the growth and have watched these buildings go up, but it is heartbreaking to see all this land and family farms get chewed up.
Family farms are dwindling and agriculture consumes too much water. We're in a serious drought, so as heartbreaking as it is, it's economically better in the long run to see this kind of development replace agriculture.
yup and all of the people from other states that disrespect the land here should leave tbh
@@s.hocker9222 so we’re just gonna have to rely on China to get our food? I would rather have farmland then more suburbs full of out of staters who move in and make the place a bore
@@s.hocker9222 it's economical better until we are starving due to crop failure in other areas.
@@JK-pt5kq Its amazing how productive the Dutch farmers are on a relatively small amount of land. I don't see that happening in the U.S.A. anytime soon. I love agriculture, but its very difficult. Food has been relatively cheap in the U.S.A. Prices have been rising at retail grocers. Someone recently told me that when he was recently married 55 years ago they purchased all their food for $5 a week.
Kinda crazy that there's no freight rail connecting the port to the warehouse 350 miles away. It's a fixed route. The benefits of trucks aren't realized.
There is a rail hub actually not far from there off Grand Ave.
This was EXACTLY my first thought. So much money and carbon emissions wasted using trucks for this purpose. With all the companies in that region it behooves them to cooperate in building a robust rail system.
Yeah. The problem with trucking is that it is about 3 times more expensive than freight. Trucks also emit about 12 times more pollution per ton mile than diesel trains.
Trucking is still an essential part of supply chains for shorter routes, but long distance routes should be served by trains or ships whenever possible.
Trucks can drive to rail depots. Companies like Amazon own their own intermodal containers that they shuttle back and forth to the rail depot. Other companies like HubGroup and JB Hunt specialize in leasing intermodal trailers and shuttling them to rail hubs.
@@maniswil2 it's detached from these warehouses though
You do not see solar panels on these roofs for a couple of reasons. The owner of the building will not incur the cost of solar installation because they typically do not pay the electric bill. The tenant typically will not install solar because they will most likely not be in the building long enough to recoup the initial cost. When you find a situation where the same company owns and occupies the building (UPS) you will usually see solar
Sounds like simple regulation would do it good. Enforce it's requirement and it's better off for everyone.
Dog wait till you see how hard SRP rapes us on solar. It’s unreal expensive and they wipe out our reserves right before summer. Straight robbery
It’s the buy back rate, it doesn’t even make financial sense to put on your home!
@@cjorgie1 yup. The sunniest state means these power companies wouldn’t make money. Greed > global warming as always.
@@TyGuyPS5 Simple solution - if solar is actually cheaper than other means, people will install them either at the individual level or at the utility level. Don't fret little mind.
So crazy how big that highway has grown. I bought my first house about 20 years ago right next to it and that was a two lane highway with a few stop signs. Now it’s a full fledged freeway and yes it was all farmland back then.
Desert before farmland.
and what did they grow?
Lots of vegetables, in the winter!
It was supposed to have been a major freeway 20 years ago, but funding for the massive system that exists today dove when the late 80s bust dried up the sales tax revenue. Therefore, they concentrated on the inner-city portion 1st b4 expanding outward. The 303 was the last portion to be completed. It's been a long time coming.
@@lovly2cu725 it says in the beginning of the video
As someone who lives right off the 303 for the last 20 years I remember when it was just a 1 way road each day. Glad to see that they kept the giant baby cut out lol.
17 years by the White Tanks in Buckeye. I remember when there was an intersection at Olive and 303. Not sure why they eliminated the ability to travel west on Olive to enter the park for the White Tanks.
Me
Live in Goodyear but head to Costco in Surprise often. What is the story behind the big baby??
@@cde3cvr my biggest hang up about 303 is heading south to the 10 and the lanes are backward.
I know which to use but still deal the morons that try to correct at the last moment...the lanes are only marked!
@@cde3cvr I'm baffled too.
Apparently Camelback to the west connects now.
The reason is simple: this area is easily accessible from Interstate 10 coming in from southern California without having to deal with the horrible traffic you can often get in Phoenix.
Truckers passing through Phoenix
Traffic in Phoenix sucks, but it's a paradise compared to SoCal traffic.
Traffic in Phoenix is a breeze compared to the Bay Area.
I live right next to all this stuff. The amount of buildings going up is INSANE.
303 was built SPECIFICALLY for this type of growth. When construction started many many years ago, there were questions as to why such a big highway was to be constructed so far from existing residential and commercial space. It’s one of my favorite things about my home city of Phoenix; forward thinking.
And the population of the metro area will likely pass 10 million by 2035
You can see that 303 was built for future growth. Look at all the on and off ramps to nowhere there are along the loop They'll just at the roads to the ramps as the area grows
Arizona does it right. Unlike Southern California who underplanned when building their freeway system.
Forward thinking?? Have you heard of the drought?
@@Dlu9999 getting rid of farmland is better for the drought since agriculture is the leading cause of it 🙄
And how exactly is providing water for the explosion of millions of square feet of commercial buildings and millions added to the population NOT a major contributing fact to drought? And frankly probably much more of a contributor being as water is now not used to water life but now also for sanitary reasons! It’s really just a swap for something worse now we need more water to sustain the square footage being built AND the influx of people coming for the job and the temporary cheaper cost of living…. The population growth alone is much more cause for concern than any farm land in ARIZONA!!! where do you think we get our water from?? Even worse how do you think every public area with a green field and trees are watered? Especially our public parks and schools? The fact that the water used to water the landscape of our public areas is NON POTABLE no mater what you do to it is concerning and is really only done that way because we can barely afford to water the population… In this climate either way is not really conducive to what the state has to offer especially in that area but at least farm land could sustain the surrounding areas with fresh local produce
@@candyp6746 when agriculture accounts for about 80% of the water use in Arizona, getting rid of millions of square feet of farmland is beneficial. If all farms were removed from the southwest and replaced with commercial buildings the water use would decrease drastically.
I'm a native to Phoenix, and after the insane increases in rent and seeing as how more and more of these companies are moving out here, I'm fairly certain I'll be looking to another state to live in soon. This is getting to be too much.
As an outsider, I truly don't see the appeal of Phoenix. Every other city in AZ seems nicer.
@@spacetoast7783 The desert is beautiful out there. Unfortunately the endless sprawl of nothing but car centric suburbs & strip malls, plus the increasing lack of water makes it just a hellscape imo.
What are you talking about Jake
Honestly same. It breaks my heart seeing how our home is being changed so drastically. I remember being able to see the roadrunners and other critters running by. Being able to see the vast uncovered sunset sky with clear mountains in the distance. Now? I barely see any of the animals I used to, the sky is covered by tall buildings, and the mountains are almost always hazy from pollution. There has to be a better way to support the population growth without tearing up the whole desert to do it.
@@rock2946 Denser, transit oriented development. Stop building for cars, start building for walkable neighborhoods. You walk around blocks in the very center of Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale and see empty lots, abandoned buildings, etc. Build condos and apartments there instead of digging up the desert.
I really hope that they combine the logistics centers there because a rail connection is possible
If only we didn't murder our rail development after ww2. The system was truly something
Combine? What does that mean? Also the rail situation is a bit of a mess today. They can't even handle what they have right now.
@@EM-cz4rd Because we need to nationalize the railroad tracks, instead of letting the monopoly companies own that vital piece of infrastructure. Nationalization would solve so many logistics problems ongoing in the united states.
Trucks can do the work 😏
I just drove this road last night. My gf’s uncle lives out there in Surprise. We haven’t visited for 3 years due to the pandemic. Went out there for dinner last night and had a convo at dinner about it. It’s actually nuts how big these are in person…it’s like 5 miles of just empty warehouses
Lived in East Mesa when it was new. 88-00. Power road was the end of the freeway. Superstition springs was new. It took 45 mins to get to N Scottsdale down Rual rd. Then came the 101. It’s crazy how much AZ has grown. My old neighborhood is ghetto now and is considered central Mesa now. I hated the jobs in AZ and the heat. Moved when I was 25 to Oregon. The only thing I miss about Az is the cooler winter and the roads.
the roads are great-no snow to chew them up
You mean Far East Mesa, borderline to Apache junction. Because Mesa all together is an old city.
It's 60 out right now, just got some rain. Hopefully summer heat is finally gone!
I miss what Mesa and Gilbert use to be. I miss going out super early in the morning when there weren't any cars on the roads. Now every hour of the day just feels so busy and congested...
If the Colorado river water isn't managed right there won't be a growing industrial market in Arizona anymore.
Only a third of Pheonix's water comes from the Colorado, most comes from local groundwater and from other local rivers.
The point is that water is running out. Arizona is a lost cause.
A pipeline of desalinated water is being developed jointly with NV. There will still be severe water restrictions as they should’ve been decades ago. Heavy reuse of gray water is also part of this solution. It works well for Israel
Transitioning as much industry away from agriculture in the area could save it. I lived in Phoenix briefly and always thought it was so stupid that you'd drive pass endless acres of farmland when driving west of the city.
@@tjs200 that will run out to.
The key to all of this is the turnaround time. From Long Beach you can hit west Phoenix in 8 hours and comply with regulations of wheel time. The cities of buckeye and Goodyear wouldn’t exist without these limits and cheap land.
Amazing how much has changed around here. I remember Loop 303 being a two lane road with stop signs and nothing but farm land.
UA-cam Teezy T Phoenix
It also helps avoid California laws and high cost of doing business. Thanks again Newsom!
That's the biggest draw of Arizona. Funny this video didn't mention that.
The I-10 connecting California to the Goodyear/Phoenix area is going to be the future problem. Its already a constant line of transport trucks and will only continue to increase on this mainly 4 lane highway. I agree with another comment that its too bad rail is not being utilized enough or added too, to supplement the growing demand.
thats what I was wondering. what should be done? a parallel stretch of freeway to clear up the 10?
@@keepsteddy there is room for at least one additional lane in each direction for most of the highway.
I live right here. It's been crazy weird just to drive by, but we got a free stretch of freeway within a minimal loop of freeways full of bottlenecks and perpetual construction. I can't complain.
303 was my shortcut between Vegas and Tucson, in early 2000s it was still a two lane road, just fields of agriculture out there.
I fly a small plane all over the country. There are huge pools of warehouses going up everywhere. It’s amazing! Bad economy? As a whole I see huge subdivisions being built, traffic everywhere, interstates clogged with tractor trailer trucks, my on board collision avoidance screen shows skies full of jet traffic. And personally I find it impossible to hire anyone to do anything- “we’re busy” is the standard excuse. 🤔
I actually did the plumbing on 3 of those new buildings. Called Park 303 phase 2 and 3. 18’ deep in the deepest part. A little over a mile of pipe
Cool, how far is it from Cave Creek roughly? I visit family in Scottsdale/fountain Hills and play around in Cave Creek on side-by-side‘s. I enjoy the open space of Cave Creek a little more but I have been told that there’s been a lot of building there too.
@@northjerseykevin409 it’s not too far from Cave creek.
Just depends on what part of 303 you are on.
What I would call the northern end of 303 is about 20- 25 minutes from CC.
It’s all booming out here.
But the interest rate hikes have slowed down the price hikes . And no more sold in 3 days or even 3 weeks anymore. Back to the normal 3 months to move a residential house.
@@DaveEPie thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Amazing how fast things slowed down once those rates went up. I look forward to spending some more time in that area. I’m a carpenter by trade and my family out there always says there’s plenty of work.
@@northjerseykevin409 yes bro.
I am a carpenter also 😁.
Check out Prescott. Much cooler. Beautiful. Plenty of work here at the moment.
Lower wages than California- but a good trade off.
Take care.
Why aren't those those sunbaked warehouses shaded with solar panels?
Because they spike the heat, and we no longer have the government subsidies so they are a money losing proposition.
Because APS power company is so greedy they will make it hard as possible to get solar and once you connect solar they will not pay you for excess power provided even tho they sell it back at a premium. APS is a parasite
Haboobs son
Most building in Phoenix should have solar panels. Would make a lot of energy.
@@GenericUrbanism And cut the air-conditioning cost by providing shade
Sad for those who were raised on this area.. sad to see this Farm Land All gone 😔
are you kidding? those farmers walked with $millions.
Farmland uses up the most water out of any other land use. It doesn’t belong in Arizona.
Well, it's not sad to see those alfalfa farms that feed Saudi horses gone. Good riddance to those
@@johnnynephrite6147 sad to see the land gone. Never said why did they sell it. Just seem sad to not see fields of whatever gone. Alfalfa, cotton whatever it was. Just changing the view with huge concrete building seems sad to me.
We are running out of water. The farms had to go. Warehouses are better then more HOA communities. Lord knows we don't need no more HOA communities
Um...until not long ago, L303 was a 2 lane blacktop with traffic lights at every major intersection. Going from Buckeye to Surprise once took me 45 minutes, now 20 minutes. That was ALL farmland on both sides of the 303...it was called Surprise Farms not long ago. Northern Parkway (formerly Northern Ave) is being built as a highway from the 303 to the 101 to take traffic off Bell Rd.
303, south of the 10, is rumored to continue south to be linked up to the recent completion of the northern extension of the 202, enabling car and trucks to travel along the 10 toward Tucson by travelling south of Phoenix before hooking back up with the 10 near Pecos Rd in Chandler.
They cheapened the 202 and didn’t connect it to the 303
Those 2 by passes have helped a bit alleviate some congestion but still sucks from 6-9 am
I used to live out there...I totally understand it.
Kinda insane how fast these warehouses go up.
Still in the valley though.
Everything is growing
ADOT really needs to repave all of the major freeways here: I10, 60, 202, 303. The rubberized asphalt have reached the end of their useful lifespan and cracks are everywhere. Arizona freeways used to be the best in the country in terms of smoothness and quietness, but now they suck.
I was drinking the Koolaid with rubberized asphalt. In hindsight, it was a scam with a purpose. About 15 years ago, ADOT wanted to widen US 60 in Tempe. But the people living in the apartments adjacent to the freeway were protesting about additional noise. Someone dreamed up rubberized asphalt to facilitate building these third lanes. It is unbelievably quiet and smooth, too. So they covered all the, originally, concrete freeways too. But they misrepresented the life of the rubberized asphalt. ADOT didn’t have the money in their budget to replace it but they add to remove it. So all those freeways today have the rubberized asphalt ground off and are back to the concrete
I agree. I do Uber and love driving over the repaved parts of the freeway. They need to repave it all
as someone from the inland empire whose city has been infested with warehouses, this is gross :(
you hate more employed people in your city ?
@@drwalka10 $16.50/hr isn’t anything to celebrate, it’s a slap in the face in this economy
@@drwalka10 yes, i do
What does a 23 year old know about anything?
@@NosebergEatzbugsVonShekelstein sorry that i don’t think factory warehouses is a good thing for anyone - including the employees. being a fan of soulless capitalism isn’t a sign of maturity. maybe if you had done well in school, you could actually have a good, fulfilling job :)
Your Phoenix, AZ label at 0:42 is way east over Scottsdale...
0:42 that is solidly part of Phoenix's metro area
Live in Phoenix area back in 2008 and traffic was BAD. I can't imagine how bad it is now. Rents are now crazy high as well.
I live in a small town in Arizona. Casa Grande, AZ.
There is so much open space here that we have major distributors open up warehouses and factories here.
Within 2 miles, there is a Walmart/Fritos/Lucid Motors(EV vehicle) and many more well known brands here.
Currently they are building an immense race track here and multiple more warehouses are opening up here.
Everyone said ADOT was crazy to build the 303 but look at it now. It's going to be a mini phoenix very soon!
Logistically, idk why ANY company would build an industrial warehouse in the Southwest when it's drying up. It's bad now. I can't imagine what the situation may be in 15-30 years.
Thanks Amanda, next time these international corporations should just ask your advice before flushing millions of dollars down the toilet. Just like all these green politicians and celebrities should be told that climate change is going to flood out those oceanfront properties they keep building and buying.
If all the city's I've been to, New York, Chicago, San Diego, LA, Charlotte. Phoenix easily has the best designed layout. Give yourself 1 week there and you'll learn the layout.
I live in the Inland Empire, and it is a constant battle with warehouse space and the community not wanting more development, especially warehouses.
Keep an eye on the Central Valley - Bakersfield, Visalia, Fresno, and Tracy are budding logistics centers and Visalia’s Industrial Park alone is growing fast
I was wondering why companies would move all the way to AZ. I assume that everywhere in between the Inland LA area and the 303 are too expensive? Or is there too much regulation in CA to build a huge hub?
@@marcusyu2655 Taxes would also be a thing
The 303 use to be great to ride my bike on, there was little to no traffic. Now the 303 is a freaking madhouse.
California plates passing on the right and weaving through traffic @90 mph. It was much better as farm fields.
Thank you, it works perfect!
Yup I go this route driving from Colorado to my dentist in Los Algodones great Hwy
Arizona is a great state overall
Lots of opportunity
Moved to Phoenix from Va 4 years ago, if you live here and don’t have a job, and are not disabled, you’re just a lazy individual! They are practically begging people to take jobs, and the rate of pay compared to Va is staggering!
@@danieljohnson4530 but the cost of living does not meet the wages. Where these warehouses are being built are not cheaper areas to live in AZ .
@@Dlu9999 I literally work at one of the warehouses and live in a nice gated community in Phoenix, soo umm WRONG!
@@danieljohnson4530 gated community? So you moved 4 years ago when it was cheap.. that explains . I’m talking about the average person here. And especially the ones coming from out of state now trying to start out their lives here. Come on think dude.
@@Dlu9999 I can tell this is the only place you have ever stayed!!! You sound just like the guys at the job that are from here and don’t know anything about the opportunities afforded to you here!!! Go live in Va for a couple years then come back and holla at ya boy!!!
WSJ never fails to hype up the worst parts of our dystopian failing society.
YOU ARE A GIFTED WORDSMITH; THEY SHOULD GET GRETA THUNBERG OUT THERE TO RAIL AGAINST THE CARBON FOOT PRINT AND SCOWEL "HOW DAAARE YOU" !!!
Its so cool seeing a video of this place when i drive down that road all the time, i actually did most of my hours with my learners permit on that road.
Soon it will be bumper to bumper semi trucks, and smog everywhere in a valley!
I lived in the Chicago area for decades and it was awful with all the truck traffic. Literally every 6th vehicle was a semi. You're always stuck behind a slow moving truck. And then all the railroad crossings and getting stopped by mile-long trains, over 100 cars long and going 15mph. It was maddening. Now I live in the southeast, in the country. No trains, few crossings, and maybe a truck here and there. What a difference.
Why not use rail to transfer between LA and Phoenix?
theyre not smart like you bro
Cause america and we poorly manage rail cause short term profit for railways
Self driving semis on a fixed rout will be the cheapest in the next 5-7 years
@@financeroyce474 Is that in Elon years or real world years?😅
that would make too much sense
This is actually heart breaking to know that farm land is being replaced with ware houses to house and distribute product mostly from Asia. And to think phoenix has grown to 5mil and it shows no signs of stopping any time soon is mind blowing! The cost of living is going to match cali much sooner rather than later at this rate…
those so called farm lands are sitting their doing nothing other than getting baked under the scorching sun......About time it's put to good use........Farming in these deserts not a good idea considering the drought
Demand for cheap stuff by Americans. Instead of buying commodities, real life stuff, they want the latest tennis shoes, tvs phones etc. The dollar goes to Asia, an the American gets shoes that won’t last more than a year or two.
It's part of the international road system that is set to run from South America to Canada.
There are plans for a major fright hub west of Wickenburg where an air port for cargo only, rail and highway for this hub will be built.
It's huge.
I moved to Phoenix two years ago and I love it here.
I really like these short educational videos. Hehe, even though these don't matter to me, they are still interesting in a short and high quality format.
The Southern Pacific east west main line RR runs just south of Phoenix and there are a number of RR tracks that connect to various commercial areas already. There is also a RR line that runs north shouth through Phoenix that connects the SP and the Santa Fe main trans continental RRS
SP has been UP for many years now. SF is BNSF.
right thru Sun City & im nw of Phx about 25 miles
Union Pacific mainline runs thru Eloy and Gila Bend, Az. Burlington Northern mainline runs thru Ash Fork, Az. Right in the middle of Phoenix, both the UP and the BNSF have terminal yards which are connected
What is actually being said is that CA's taxes are SO HIGH that it's cheaper to truck everything 350 miles away. There is SO MUCH space in CA.
Ps. Great comment I read about a railway for costs and cleanliness.. Guess which state doesn't want to make it easier for out of state businesses??
Lived 4 blocks from KAKE TV station for 10 yrs. '60-'70. Loved it
Most rediculous part is that so many of the warehouses already built are laying empty! I live on a County Island right here.... The City of Glendale has annexed all of this land from the County in a most interesting maner! Glendale have doen this to earn Tax Dollars..... Poor infrastructure and bad designs have already led to issues locally! IMHO This project shou;d have been based down by the I10 Intersection, but as we all know Glendale would have been out of the loop on that whole deal! Follow the Money! A Huge Trcuk stop was planned back in the day down in that area that wuold have been a god end for not only CDL traffic but also travellers running across the I10 East to West.... There are zero facilties for trucks in this whole area. The one that was being proposed was kicked out due to public concerns in the area... So Glendale should make someone build one withing in this rediculous concrete jungle awau from Schools and residents... They have had ample time to plan this, but the Glendale is a Broken City short on staff and resources in the Town Hall..... Anyone who has had any dealings with the Glendale Planning Departmenst and associated Departments will know exactly what I am talking about!
Did you know that Jackrabbit, North of Indian School is Litchfield Park?
@@RJMay3 Actually Yes! A whole piece that runs west from actual Litchfield Park is classed as Litchfield Park...
@@ecossearthur In 2010, i was an enumerator for the Census. My first batches to address were Buckeye, 85326 and 85396. One day I drew this place in Litchfield Park. I was expecting to have to go down the 10 when navigation sent me north on Jackrabbit. It sent me to that neighborhood behind Verrado HS.
@@RJMay3 From what I understood back in the day, before all any of the developments it was to do with the Post Office Zip Code... I have a Post office on the other side of the now 303 and Glendale but that's Waddell 😆
@@ecossearthur Verrado was an afterthought in the early 2000's. It was annexed to Buckeye by DMB.
All of Buckeye north of the 10 is 85396...but mail for there comes out of 85326 by Miller Rd and 85.
Im too familiar with the nuances in the area west of Luke, due to having to pick up medical passengers back there.
Surprise is broken down to so many zip codes i still dont know the final count.
I do know that Sun City Festival (and its one gas station) is on the border of Surprise and Buckeye.
They should definitely build a railway to this area from the port
Phoenix is one fastest growing and best cities!
When I moved to Phoenix in January 2021 the 303 was barren and free to ride on, now it's white knuckle like the 101 was
The same thing is happening in East Mesa Arizona along the San Tan 202 freeway.
I'm shocked everytime I see the growth next to the 202 at Hawes. Warehouse going up at an alarming rate right next to the airport
Bring all that to Tucson too!
What's a Tucson?
NO
Won't happen. They have to drive farther, through the city of Phoenix (a traffic bottleneck), and would easily exceed the maximum 1-day trucker daily drive time. If there were a direct rail connection for freight from CA for the short-haul, maybe, but Phoenix is probably still easier, particularly WEST Phoenix since you don't have to travel through Phoenix itself.
Another factor in building in A.Z is the C.A.R.B California air resources board has plans to limit trucking in inland empire warehouses and restrict hours of operation based on air quality! Also they plan on eliminating diesel fuel and medium and HD diesel trucks starting in 2027, Other crazy enviro policies make building here near impossible.
Moved to AZ from NY in 09 right off the 303 and el mirage Rd. AZ has changed a lot since then but maybe to fast for its own good.
I live near the 303, I've seen it go from a small 2 lane high way to what you see today. Let me tell you we can't stand the sight of all those warehouses.
303.
They're not that bad dawg. You want farmland go to buckeye and inhale that sweet aroma of cowshit
@@AM-vk2yq 😂
GROW A HEDGE
The individuals at the local government level that believe these type of short sighted development projects are the future are unbelievably foolish. Local governments will often cater to groups with tax incentives and modified building regulations to build these ridiculous warehouse complexes while touting jobs and regional prosperity as a benefit to their community. Meanwhile these buildings are hastily constructed with little regard to environmental impacts in the area. When they are done the community is left with at BEST a workplace for low paying, low skill jobs, often with a much smaller group of employees than originally touted in the proposal while simultaneously being left to support crumbling infrastructure with extreme truck traffic around the clock. When the tax breaks end the companies will move out leaving you with an empty shell of a building, unemployed citizens, and an eye sore of an industrial area that can't be used for anything but storing products that are not and will never be produced there. Thankfully the developers that built the buildings and brands that rented the space will be able to "take the money and run" onto the next crossroad down the highway to do it again. Enjoy your warehouses small town America!
I took a job on one of those warehouse. It got me off the road and home everyday.
Cost of living in Phoenix has gone up by like 100% in the last 2 years due to all this growth. Tons of people moving here. Been here 33 years and it WAS a good place to live but not at CA prices so I'm out.
A major factor missed in here is how close they will be to i11 as ADOT gets moving on it
Don’t hold you breath on I 11. Not one single cent will be spent on it in the next 5 years.
@@RT-gq3bh That's NOT entirely correct, I11 will be using some sections of current highways/freeways, and those are being, or even have been (US93) improved.
You are correct, I11 will use US 93 from outside Congress, Az to Hoover Dam, where the real I11 begins. Currently, there are more than 33 miles of this highway which aren’t even divided. They do have a plan to make some of this divided. A real Interstate Highway has restricted access with exit, entrance and overpasses. And nobody is even thinking about this, let alone planning it. Maybe 20 years from now, this will be a real Interstate.
So the warehouses are following the customers,
into a waterless desert.
right, good luck where theres no water
Colorado river....
@@tesla82111 Needed For Crops ??
TELL THAT TO LAS VEGAS & CALI & UTAH & COLORADO
@@danjohnston9037 WHAT CROPS? NOTHING GROWS HERE.
Everyone here complaining about not using the rail system clearly don't live in AZ. The line runs straight to the heart of where the facilities are and distributes from a hub. This is more efficient and cost effective then running a specific line to every wherehouse. There would literally be zero room left for actual roads and infrastructure for the rest of the city!
What are they going to do for water?
That is exactly what I was thinking! Where are all these warehouses and homes that will be developed around it get water
Americans are going to be big mad when amazon, ups, fed ex, and others buy up all the abandoned lined and create a high-speed network. People will say the government should have done it because the private companies are charging too much for tickets. When people realize they can get on a train and travel at times faster or more comfortably on a train....
That would of sounded good 100 years ago. Nobody in the USA rides trains. Trains are incredibly inefficient for spread out suburbs where the majority of people live. In cities like New York they work. Trains are for poor people, and the average American though not a millionaire is still in a different world even compared to someone per say in England.
@@maniswil2 That did happen a hundred years ago. Trains go where lines are built so that is an issue that can be fixed. Trains are not for poor people that can be seen throughout the entire planet. In fact, who is actually saying that? Seriously, who is saying trains are for poor people? The people in the suburbs that you insinuate don't use trains because they are horribly inefficient?
Also, qualifying a national problem using world wide economic standards through a subject term (poor), is an intellectualyly dishonest comment. we all know it.
@@maniswil2 PS the fact you think british people are substantially more well off is kind of strange too. Where do you find this data? Who says these things? Seriously.
@@maniswil2 because we’re forced to use cars 😂
News Flash....already happening. Just 2 miles from my house in Mesa, AZ is a new Amazon distribution center opening soon. Just a mile or so down the road from that, a Facebook data center. And 30 to 40 new warehouses have gone up in a 10 square mile area just south and east of where I live.
should have also pointed out the new Taiwan Semi Conductor Factory which also falls in the highlighted area of the 303
This makes me feel better about the future.
Just 7 years ago I would start my morning commute on 303 South at 6:30AM and I would see a handful of other vehicles. Now, it's just a few years away from being as bad as the 10. This is how it looked in 2015 - ua-cam.com/video/2kzu9o6eJ6M/v-deo.html
These warehouses should be built around a railway corridor. Not just along a highway. It's better for the environment to use trains for long-distances.
We used to live in Joliet IL and warehouses ruined that area - massive amounts of diesel trucks pounding the local roads to dust 24-7
do some research on Perris/Moreno Valley it's mind blowing how many warehouse's have been built here in just the last 5 years and they are still building more
I have lived in this area off and on since 1996 I can't believe how many warehouses have been built
Stop moving to the freaking desert, people!
The desert is preferable to California
Destroying our world with warehouses
BLAME AMAZON
Did we really lose much in the exurbs of Phoenix? It has to go somewhere.
As the water levels at Lake Mead drop, deciding to develop warehouse space in Phoenix must take in the cost of transporting millions of tons of bottled water.
whats up with all the train bots? y'all want horse and carriages too? 😂
Hear that, Phoenix? You can be the new Bakersfield!
Is that where warehouses are being built as well?
WE DONT HAVE STUPID NEWSOM REGULATIONS
@@lovly2cu725 no you just hate REAL freedom is all.
With no ocean 😭😭😭
Arizona needs to drastically improve their interstate/freeway infrastructure. Need to build the I-11 to Las Vegas, extend the I-17 up to the I-70 in Utah.
WE WILL GET RIGHT ON IT
Good luck doing that 17 north of Flagstaff. On the other hand Tucson can use a loop or two.
Climate wise, I would consider a city, believe or not, like Detroit or Milwaukee, even though I have only been to the latter, and live in Arizona.
I-17 isn’t getting extended. I-11 needs to be finished up to Vegas though.
Build rail here. It's a fixed route to the seaport. Get those trucks off the highway.
I just moved to the Phoenix Metro area from Wisconsin. This is a BOOM town. Phoenix is already the 5th biggest city in the country and it's going to keep climbing.
Not really an ideal situation for the climate….. watering all those people is the problem we have to pull from other sources.
Same process that happened to Fontana, Rialto in CA.
I'm born and raised in this area, was just a little kid when the loop 303 was being constructed. this logistics industrialization bs is literally sucking the life out of my native desert landscape, we won't make it much longer...I miss my farms...
Ditto... We have an Fing warehouse in our back yard now on our County Island! Glendale Sucks!
WHAT DID THEY GROW?
80% of all Americans are on the east coast, 20% on the west coast, 60% of the20% are in Los Angeles County lol
Still 5 million people in the PHX metro area, along with over 6 million in the state. Combine that with LA, Salt Lake City, Denver, Albuquerque, Las Vegas, And El Paso. That’s more than enough people to justify a central hub in PHX.
@@Matthew.602 I literally was just stating an interesting fact that I learned that had no other meaning. So idk what you’re talking about in regards to justification…..
@@kpsalm I was providing useless info like you were lol all good ma
@@Matthew.602 two useless comments. Love it!!
Project clarius @1:11 currently working on doing the concrete with suntec there !
Highway 35w in Fort Worth is just like this. Warehouses are booming all around where I live.
Sunbelt will be uninhabitable in ten years due to global warming. Bad bet. I'd look north again as families give up on the southwest and move back to Midwest.
they will milk the cow till the last drop
GLOBAL WARMING?🤣
Please cover how this population boom in a desert is also not sustainable or fair to residents who have had their families their for years
What’s not sustainable is lifestyle, not living.
ITS NOT LIKE THEY ARE BUILDING ON ALREADY POPULATED AREAS
That's similar to what's happening in Aberdeen, MD (Belcamp)
Before something like this happens, there will be droves of unfinished residential and commercial projects in the near future similar to what went on over 10 years ago here.
Love seeing the American economy continue to invest in itself.
They should be doing it on land that is not able to grow food on. Farmers should not be selling their land that food can grow in to companies who are going to build buildings on. It's asinine.
@@WPaKFamily didn't realize Phoenix had such good farmland
@@Skyberg21 All I'm saying is that if there is farmland, and you can grow crops on it, then DON'T build anything on top of it and ruin it. It's just stupid.
@O. M. Never think that we have enough farmland in America. That's a dangerous thought to have.
@@WPaKFamily So we just can't build anything in America then? By your logic anything can be farmland if you're including Phoenix.
Literally build a train please
you are talking about freight lines right ?
Feel free to do it, and while you're at it bring back horse and carriage. Lets look into the future not the past.
@@maniswil2 congrats on the dumbest take of the day
@@maniswil2 room temp IQ
@@patriot9487 you must live somewhere very cold
Definitely gotta check out US 40 in West Jefferson, Ohio. Right off of I70 and booming with warehouses being built up left and right
Building roadway capacity is crucial to economic prosperity
Removing farmland for low pay warehouse jobs that will soon become automated. Sounds like the Phoenix west valley sold out for a cheap buck.
The City of Glendale did! They keep mentioning Phoenix but this is all the doing of the City of Glendale and big Money!
GROWING WHAT?
Wouldn't it make more sense if we created a land port? By having a freight train carry the goods to the land port in PHX instead of just having it trucked to the port?
As if sense ever dictated anything 😂
@@skp8748 touché 😆
They should make the railroad network more efficient than using trucks, in Colorado there is a railroad network connected to warehouses to be precise in Northeast Denver, the area is the largest logistics center in Colorado.
theres so many industrial wear houses where i live (chicago)
and zero solar panals on top, great Murica
Doesn't even matter. It's stupid to build buildings on land that is able to grow more food and bring down food prices in this country in the first place.