Sony APS C is BACK! 11mm f1.8, 15mm f1.4, 10-20mm f4 (Vlogging Paradise?)
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Sony APS-C is back with new vlogging lenses. 11mm f1.8, the Sigma killer 15mm f1.4, and a 10-20mm f4 power zoom that is 1 gram lighter than the 11mm prime. These lenses are insanely light, but do they suffer image quality? Are they the best lenses to vlog with the Sony ZVE10? Does this mean Sony is working on a new pro aps-c body like the a7000? No lens stabilization in any of the lenses, is that a deal breaker?
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Your incessant requests for 480fps or 240fps are tiresome. Dude, there are hard limits to the RAM required and file IO write speed. A good 1080p jpeg is 3-400KB, *240, that's 80-100MB/s write speed required. If you somehow manage to capture the sensor output into memory, process it from raw to jpeg so the quality isn't poop and spit it towards the storage.
Protip, unless a body has CF Express (or USB SSD option), the camera won't be able to support those superhigh frame rates - assuming the processor/board can do everything needed before the actual save to storage happens.
@@haploguy The Sony RX100 IV has 960 fps, it's not that hard.
@@haploguy Looks like you designed the cannon Cripple hammer
@@cameraconspiracies don't be coy, it's only for 2s@1136x384, do the math and you'll end up in the same place; assuming a 100% jpeg will weigh 90-100KB*960 that's almost 90MB/s, which it doesn't even write directly to the card; I assume the compression is worse and it's cached in whatever 128MB of RAM that camera has. No manufacturer will add the cost of such a feature (probably $25-50 if the body already supports CFE and only needs extra RAM or double that to add CFE too) for a feature so few need/require/use.
@@haploguy I think you should read up on satire. Also, who cares. Just enjoy the content.
Nice job on making the Toneh a thing Casey! I was in a camera store out in NS the other day and use the term (without realizing) and they shouted Camera Conspiracy 's 😆
That 11mm f1.8 was fantastic on the ZV-E10. Even without stabilization on it was good enough for all the static shots and on the skate board. So much nicer looking than a gopro or smart phone.
I mean gopro is rugged and pocket size. different uses for different scenarios.
Oh yeah kind of apples and oranges, but I think for the 'average vlogger' that yeet-it-off-a-mountain-ruggedness is not at all necessary and the image quality difference is quite large. Definitely a market for both though!
@@OttosTheName I have both the ZV-10 and the Gopro Hero 11. I think the 5.3K 60P video looks great: ua-cam.com/video/i_hID68iVjA/v-deo.html, better than what the ZV-10 brings with a wide-angle lens. The Hero 11 has 10bit colors, as opposed to the 8bit of the ZV-10.
@@markr041 thanks for the footage (i also was curious about the last-gen hero footage and to compare it with sony). However in my opinion the ZV-10 produces much more crisp videos, of course with appropriate lenses on it. The worst thing about sony for me is the rolling shutter, you really have to be careful to minimize it. Ideally for the good shots for every occasion is to have both the zv and the hero. My situation is kinda similar i have the zv (but for now only with the kit lenses and i am trying to find the best wide lenses) and insta 360 RS with 1inch mod which is pretty good for some action and water/underwater shots.
I dont even care for the products, im here for the comedy your channel is gold
I'm just happy Sony gave you these lenses to review.
Also, that 15 1.4 footage riding the board looked really cool
15:20 there is no current camera that deserves this lenses. So true Casey, so true :)))))
16:50 your attention to details is why your reviews are best :))))
What most impresses me is that while you were riding the skateboard i didn’t hear not the slightest wind sound, it was just you.
And that impressed me.
He is no longer vegan so no more excessive wind.
I see in the video you are trying to be so much nicer than you usually are 😄😄 for sony to keep sending you things in the future
Thanks Kase, I sincerely was looking into getting the 15mm f1.4 -- and I follow your other channels so this was a no-brainer
A review that is both timely and actually useful. What is going on!!!
A bit strange that they launch these without having aps-c bodies.
huh? It's not strange at all.
First 5 seconds of this video he answered my only question 😂😂😂 GENIUS!
This is the lens I have been waiting for Fuji to make for years. WTF Fuji.
For real but instead we get an 8 f3.5 like why. Another summit in September so maybe they'll announce a different wide prime then but I doubt it.
I hope Tamron, Sigma or Viltrox teaches Fuji a lesson on the xmount. 👽
but fuji already have viltrox 13mm f1.4 :D hahaha
@@reviewnesia9505 11mm is much wider than 13mm. Its much smaller, and lighter too. The Sony is a better lens for Astro, architectural, vlogging. Pretty much everything.
Could you test the 11 1.8 on a7s III and do catalyst browse stabilization to see if it gets rid of more vignetting?
+1 for this! Do this test please!
Thanks for showing what they look like on full frame.
UPDATE: These lenses work perfectly with the new (since this video) Sony fx30, which has IBIS, log gammas and 10bit color. Example with the E PZ 10-20mm f4 handheld: ua-cam.com/video/MR5WYonUQOQ/v-deo.html
That vignette frame gives you that nostalgic look actually.
I am waiting for your video with Sony A7iv camera. There are a few UA-camrs who, instead of sitting in the studio and telling a story, make a practical video out there that gives a good idea of the camera's performance.
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Sonyalpharumors lists a bunch of reviewers of these lenses but I know who should I check the first! Primes look so lovely indeed but the 10-20 should have had oss as it was rumored to have! Very good job Kasey! We all are waiting for a real apsc body in Sony ecosystem if it ever happens!
So Sony is now releasing new APS-C lenses having pretty much abandoned APPS-C cameras?
Maybe they will release a fuji mount ;)
Hint: They are not abandoned. New semi-pro lenses for a new semi-pro Sony APS-C camera in the pipe.
Well the lack of new camera's is probably related to the chip shortage. I have barely seen ANY aps-c camera's for sale in the last 2 years in Europe. Even the non-discontinued models. So when it comes to bodies I don't think they abandoned APS-C. It only seemed quite obvious that they abandoned the lenses for APS-C and wanted everybody to buy massive expensive FF lenses because they woul 'ugprade' at some point anyways. But after years of no APS-C lenses (or maybe a few) this is very confusing.
@@gunn1ng Announcing an a6700 and making enough of them to actually buy at a price that makes sense for APS-C is something Sony hasn't been willing to do with its chips for the last 2 years? The used bodies are selling at obscene premiums right now. (I should sell mine while I can, it's just silly)
These are not really for APS-C only. Sony is releasing new full-frame cameras with more advanced-AI stabilization that needs more cropping for video
Honestly, the 1080P on the a7S III is really good.
@Camera Conspiracies
About the prices:
Here in Germany the Sony 15mm 1.4 is DOUBLE the price of the Sigma 16mm. The Sony costs 850€ and the Sigma 350€. Thats some significant price difference.
Oh and another really important remark: What you want already exists: You can record 4k video with the zve10 and then in "catalyst browse" use the gyro data which the camera recorded in order to stabilize the footage. You either can let the program do everything or selct a crop ratio on your own. But usually a crop of 10% already stabilizes the video incrdibly well.
One drawback of this is that you need to use higher shutter speeds but the results can be extremly amazing imo.
I would go as far as to say stabilizing with "sony Catalyst Browse" is the best in camera stabilization solution to this date.
Ive seen samples which looked like they were filmed from a gimbal, thats because this mode essentially works as a gopro, nsta360go 2 or any other action cam in this mode with the gyro data.
I really dont know why so few people know of Sony catalyst if it is such an brilliant feature.
Maybe watch his video on catalyst browse :D.
To use Catalyst' with Giro data - it could be a good idea but:
:( The stabilizing process takes hours of your precious time.
:( You can only use it on one file at a time by default.
:( In addition: it fails sometimes.
@@attilak9373 hmm okay, but for very smooth footage I wouldnt mind it to tale some time 🤔🤷♂️
Honestly, I just would do sometjing else in the time where it is rendering
@@potatophil8432 Oh no, well that's awkward. I did not know that he already is familiar with catalyst browse, cause I have subscribed very recently.
But thanks for letting me know 😅
If only there was a Sony APS-C camera that didn't suck to go along with these lenses and the 16-55 and 70-350...
I actually do own the 70-350 cause i got it for ~600€ but i wouldnt ever buy the 16-55 for my a6300 its just not worth it compared to the sigma 18-50...But im not sure if there will be a new high-end apsc from sony in the near future. I really dont feel like buying the same 24.2 sensor again :/
You just described the Z50 and kit lenses, but the AF-C just isn't there yet. It doesn't even have the best Nikon mode Wide (L People) that the Zfc (identical) has. The 50-250DXVR kit is as good as the 70-300E AF-P which adapts very well btw.
The 11mm f1.8 (16.5 FF equivalent) would indeed be great with a 20% active stabe crop let's say => 19.8mm. Just need a ZV-E11.
That 15mm is nice but can't beat the Sigma 16mm price, and that's a slight middle finger from Sony to most of their APS-C shooters, although these lenses beat the competition in other aspects, like size, which is also a big deal for APS-C. At least we have more choices now, which is great.
05:38 like neistat just not at 40mph.. interesting lenses.. and the zv-e10 is like the only camera to ever appreciate in value
honestly love your content, hope to one day to have such a professional but yet enjoyable camera man like yourself.
Really love to get 11mm f1. 8 it will be best lens for Vlogging
Not an a7000 but the a6700 works great. I picked up the 11mm for it based on this video. Thank you. a6700 has insect eye detect. lol
me watching youtubers debate if 4K is good enough in 2022 in 360p.
After rewatching it boggles my mind how in deph of a creators and users view you show the performance of the lenses and combined with differend bodies, stabes, compared to Zeiss on FF and cross check.
And on top of that I enjoy your settle humor sprinkled all over it. Overlooked the zoom rocker on the 10-20? That reaction! 😂
I thought the Black Pro Mist filter ruined the image, the 15mm looked 10x better on both cams, the BPM filter made the image almost trash.
I would have to agree
I have so many issues with my Sigma 16mm f1.4 that I am considering to get the Sony 15mm instead. The Sigma's continuous auto focus for videos is unstable above apertures of f1.8, so I had to buy a Tilta focus wheel to remotely set the manual focus when shooting myself. Otherwise the focus keeps hunting and breathing. Also, the bokeh is completely uneven (left half of image is already blurred while right half is still sharp), so my background looks uneven. Sigma's customer support was not helpful at all and basically told me "it is what it is". Never had any of these issues with my Sony glass, so probably will replace everything Sigma over time.
Freakin love this video. Also now show the A6700.
Looks really good when your on the board 👏
Great video! Good to see you happy. (With the tech!)
Looks like it was garbage day on that street. Made me think you should do a throwback video and return to our old dumpster spot for a retro dumpster vlog...... Have a great week!
my sigma 16mm is still in my bag, can't see these nudging it out.
If you can just finally get red of that godawfall apsc sensor that we've been stuck for a billion generations now. It would be much better already. The readout speed on that sensor is just too slow. No matter how good the ibis, it will look shitty due to being in jellow jitter land with the rolling shutter.
Zeisss Batis 25mm f2 is 2 times more expensive than ZVE10. :)
ZVE10 should be so happy to be with it :))
Hey Camera Conspiracies, when you were testing animal eye detect, you didn't see the box, because in Sony aps-c cameras, when you enter 1080p 120fps, the autofocus reverts back to contrast detect. Same goes for Sony's digital clear zoom. If you want to test the animal eye detect, you should do it in 4k 24fps or 1080p up to 60fps. I know those are not magical, but at least you can test if the animal eye detect is any good and if it is worth striving for in the a7IV. Keep up the great work! 😁
It wasn't showing up, I was filming in 4k 24p when talking about it. It doesn't recognize squirrels.
@@cameraconspiracies The reason it wasn't recognising your squirrels may be something to do with their colour. I have two cocker spaniels, one black and one gold. Animal eye detect works great on the gold one where there is good contrast between the colour of the animal and its eyes so the image processing can 'see' the eyes. My black dog has very dark eyes so eye detect struggles to detect the eyes, which is understandable. At the end of the day its just a computer program looking for a certain pattern, so if theres no pattern to detect in an image of a black squirrel with black eyes one cant expect miracles. You need to bin those black squirrels and get some grey or red ones! Anyway, thanks for the original, entertaining and intelligent content. p.s. why are all the best camera/video related UA-camrs Canadian? (I'm in the UK).
Was this test with the SONY ZV-E10 Mark II ? I didn't catch it if you mention it. I wonder if there's a performance improvement with the Mark II.
I have no idea of the significance the the Vegetable Police thing (inside joke I assume) but I have decided I need this t-shirt in my life.
That's a loud truck lmao. As it passes it's really a van lmao
Will be interested to see how that 11mm goes for the star geeks
Certainly next to the Rokinon/Samyang 12mm f2 would be interesting to compare for Astro/Night performance… the 12mm optical formula is much older of course.
You are so hilarious! Nice video with good information. Thanks!
"Sloping down to boredom" 😂 Man I love MTF charts, but that got me
Looking forward to version 2 of this review with the A6700 camera. 😁
"These are attacks"
lmao
I prefer cloudy days the lighting is much more diffuse and even.
I can see Sony contracting you as a consultant / advertising executive 🧐 ...we all know the buttons on the side are for people that get bored with your videos
I remember because the autofocus would disable when using clear zoom?
That stormtrooper looking Zhiyun M3 is small enough to carry around with these tiny lenses.
I have the crane M3, I am not sure which lenses I`ll get yet, but it looks like I`m lucky and they`re pretty small and light :D
@@mihaiserbanescu8676 honestly, the 11f1.8, the 10-20f4, and a nice 24f1.4 should do everything you need except like bird or moon photography. If I could start again, I would do it that way. I almost never shoot longer than a 35mm equivalent.
@@-grey at the moment I have an 18-105mm glens, a 70-200mm g lens (it's for full frame so on crop it's 105-300mm) for insane portraits or some birds, the kit lens, my a6400 came with a 50mm f1.8 (not the sharpest at all). I was thinking to get the 10-18mm so it would be a great range, though, at F4, it's bad in low light. 10-20 is optically better but still F4 so that's why I'd need something like the 11mm F1.8/15mm f1.4 for low light vlog for example. Don't know if the 15mm it's wide enough though. On the crane M3 the 18-105 won't balance so it has to be light and short.
@@mihaiserbanescu8676 f4 isn't super versatile in low light, but I shoot it at 1/100 all the time and it's perfectly fine. You do need to adapt to embracing contrasting shadow as an element in the composition though. - 1 or 2 eV usually. And then written the scene for the light. It's hard to get a flat image with f4 at night.
@@-grey this is the reason why I got the 11mm F1.8 as well. If I do need to vlog in the evening or during night time, the F4 is not going to help me much, but the 11mm F1.8 will. Which is great! I could have been going for the tamron 11-20mm F2.8 but I have a feeling that it's focus leaves a lot to be desired.
Is the sony 11 with active stabilization cropping to 24mm FF equivalent or aspc 24mm , because wouldn’t the Sony 11mm cropped to 24mm just be pretty much the sony 15mm without active stabilization because that is like 23mm ff equivalent
Maybe ZV-E10's face priority auto exposure brightens face and sky at the same time.. I want the color of the sky to be blue. Can you turn off the face priority auto exposure feature and see the result? Will the face exposure look too bad?
Sony 15mm may be half the weight of the Sigma 16mm but it's also double the price! Plus AF was fine on the 16.
Yet the 11mm F1.8 looks gorgeous for vlogging! I would love you to keep it.
I had the 16mm and from near focus to infinity, it would just lose itself. sometimes would even forget to focus, it was bad compared to native sony lenses. that`s why I returned the product. the 15mm is what everyone wanted the 16mm sigma to be. can`t wait to get the sony`s.
@@mihaiserbanescu8676 Sorry dude, I have no any issues with my Sigma 16mm autofocus.
Sigma's killer for double price? Nice try, Sony :DD
What the..... a remote control skateboard? You used it as a camera slider? lol I got that 16mm that I used with my A6400 but now I have the A7 iii been looking at the Sony 16-35 f.2 for a while now, just so expensive. You have it?
Seems likethe 15mm 1.4 have a slightly better bokeh... or am I seeing wrong?What about the 10-20mm? I was thinking this one would be nice as it covers 10-20 but not sure of bokeh
Nice comparison.
You're too funny dude 😂. Enjoyed the video 🎉
Ahhh! I lived in that exact same Toronto apartment. That flooring and the covered couch and cheap-ass folding table...
All my friends lived in that same apartment. Did the city get a bulk discount on floor Jenga blocks?
Great work as usual sir :) ... personally I think the stabilisation looks awful. Eyes keep getting drawn to the jerkiness /wobbles in the corners.
Which ultra wide angle lens do you recommend for indoor real estate videography ?
It looks like Sony is about to announce new apsc camera. 100% by year end
Yep
the squirel is all black and had no contrast on it's eyes and body that's why camera was not able to find the eye to focos
Actually? The focus lengths with active stabe, are longer, you forgot the 1.5 crop factor already since it's a crop lens and camera
15:20 with cropping that is tinier the M43!
Your the only one I trust. Could you compare the 20mm 1.8 FF to the 11mm 1.8 on your A7Siii? Could you save the money and weight and go with the APSC option?
You saw the results, why would you cripple your a7s III to 1080p 60p?
@@cameraconspiracies actually I have the A7IV so 4k 60 is in crop. Wondering if any of these are worth while specifically for video.
@@sneakergearz Never buy aps-c lenses for full frame cameras, unless you want to cripple your full frame and only use aps-c.
“… oh she’s wide…. The least desirable of the three sisters”
Damn you crack me up.
I agree - I wish these companies would stop making all these apsc f/3.5+ lenses
10-20 is very interesting because it's tiny and probably sharper than the old 10-18, but I like shooting architecture and occasionally in the evening and no OSS is a real issue if you ask me. Not every tunnel, building, etc is lit all that well. The 11mm is interesting though! 15mm is 66% more expensive than the Sigma 16mm. So Sigma killer? Then it must be REALLY good.
and you can NOT find it used, sigmas are easy to find used
Great job brother
Stabb was legit. 11mm great.
ZV-E10 has much purer urine yellows than the A7SIII....
I know this has nothing to do with the situation but I needed your advice I was going to head and videotaping the meteor showers yesterday and I ended up getting a glimpse of a UFO and it came down and being my Panasonic G5 Mark II camera and now I'm without a camera and I was wondering if I should get that new Canon r7 before they return a Panasonic because of the auto focus problems and I was maybe going ahead and wanting to go with the bigger sensor as well so what do you suggest I do
I never understood the hype about ZV-E10. In what way it is better as a vlogging camera comparing to a6600? It has IBIS that is good enough for video. You just have to move mic somewhere else.
It’s like half the size. The zve10 is closer in size to the zv1 than the 6600. It also has an articulating screen. I owned a 6600 and sold it in favor of the zve mostly upon size and weight savings alone.
You should compare the Rokinon/Samyang 12mm f2.0 with that Sony 11mm
hi just love all your video can you please recommend me with lens is the right one for a sony a6500 for streaming very small studio
10:17 what kind of mouse with weird tail is that
@ 10:00 how did you make that hyper lapse, looks dope.
I don't think the Sigma is dead yet just because the Sony 15mm is double the price.
Would love to hear you on karaoke doing a Neil Diamond track. Just saying. ;-)
Would welcome your thoughts now in a A6700 world
Why not use the 11mm in studio? Too much distortion?
You were expecting the aps-c primes to cover FF sensor? I can understand that with zooms, but.. wouldn’t they market it as an FE lens in the first place?
It's my duty to check.
@@cameraconspiracies Fair enough.. I did enjoy your shocked face, btw. Carry on, Sir..
Mate! Please do one episode were you just stare into the lens for the whole video.
i miss the ghost walk in slow motion :D
I say wait for the Viltrox 13mm F1.4 to come to E-mount.
Your "Noo Yawk" sounded Cockney for some reason. 😂 Not impressed with the active stabilization alone for vlogging. Face it, nothing is really better than an action camera for walking vlogs. I just live with everything being in focus.
When I get my R7, though, I'm going to pair it with an adapted EF-S 10-18 and see how that works for vlogging and video. Not the fastest, but it may be the best available option right now for RF-S.
P.S. on a cloudy day, the BPM filter just looks like the lens is smudged. That's what I thought it was until I noticed the title.
I don't think it will have sync stabe. Just get a macro filter for your gopro for some slight Toneh :)
@@cameraconspiracies the EF/RF adapter works well with stabilized lenses and syncs with the IBIS. I expect no problem with the EF-S 10-18. Turned out, the unstabilized RF 16mm is unusable with the R5 and R6 for vlogging. However, it takes decent photos.
Did you make a how-to-walk like a vlogger video yet?
Ahh the Toneh
Sony, what I really want is a RX-10 V. But I'll take a $1500 APS-C flagship.
Anything smaller than medium format is DEAD.
That Pro Mist Filter looks like it might be covered in fingerprints. Doris Day looking.
It was completely fogged up for some reason.
Next episode: My electric skateboard was stolen
Thanks for your video! Loved it. What would recommend for just video recording (not vlogging)? The 15mm or the 11mm?
There's a very high pitched sound coming from the skateboard whenever you are vlogging from it. It's borderline giving me headaches. Am I the only one hearing it?
Kasey, get a faster computer, buy a fleet of ZV-E10's and you're set! Catalyst Browse for the win. Other Toronto UA-camrs seem to love it such as Mark Bennett
Do they come in SILVER for my WHITE ZV-E10?
Nice to see a fellow Torontonian doing great video reviews. Keep the amazing videos coming!
Not sure east of Yonge street is still Toronto.
9:50 : i think he realize he could have gotten hurt by not paying attention to the street traffic…