LAST Seen 3 MONTHS Ago - What is HAPPENING with the CLASS 93 Testing Program & 93001..?

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  • Опубліковано 13 кві 2024
  • The bizarre roll out of the Rail Operations Group Tri-Mode Class 93 program continues - The first class example arrived into Bristol Portway docks from Stadler Valencia in Jun-23. The loco spent the majority of the remainder of 2023 at Wabtec Loughborough and mostly HNRC Worksop.
    The loco finally surfaced in early Jan-24 and was dragged to Crewe Coal Yard by 37901 for static testing with coaching stock. it quickly returned back to HNRC and bizarrely hasn't been seen again more than 3 months - What is happening with the loco class certification and testing..????
    Up to 10 class 93's were due to be shipped to the UK in 2023 - These are still at Stadler in Valencia and can be seen running around their in-house test track with no sign of shipping to the UK.
    Another example of modern day bureaucracy creating crazy length delays on the UK railway network...????
    Hope you enjoy the video! This is the only footage I have of 93001 from the 10 months it's spent in the UK..!
    #class93 #93001 #delays #testing #bureaucracy #ROG #railoperationsgroup #newloco #newlococlass #stadler #trimode

КОМЕНТАРІ • 87

  • @abloogywoogywoo
    @abloogywoogywoo Місяць тому +11

    37: Do I have to keep showing you youngsters how it’s done?

  • @kevinellis8869
    @kevinellis8869 13 днів тому +1

    Saw it all by itself in the down middle roads at Sheffield station yesterday morning (29 May).

  • @keithmatthews1673
    @keithmatthews1673 Місяць тому +12

    At least we still have reliable Diesels to drag the thing around.

    • @levelcrossing150
      @levelcrossing150 Місяць тому +4

      That''s because the reliable diesel was built in the UK.

  • @StowmarketRailfreight
    @StowmarketRailfreight Місяць тому +14

    This is happening a lot nowadays with the locos that come to the Uk. They get shipped over, run only a couple times and then sit in storage for months without much testing or they get returned back to where they were built.

    • @annatrindall9829
      @annatrindall9829 Місяць тому +3

      Well if that is the case, what the hell is the point of having them??

    • @StowmarketRailfreight
      @StowmarketRailfreight Місяць тому +3

      @@annatrindall9829 That’s how I feel. A huge problem we have

    • @paulfuller7409
      @paulfuller7409 Місяць тому +4

      Come on
      most locomotives that come here are running in service within a few weeks. Units are a different story

    • @annatrindall9829
      @annatrindall9829 Місяць тому +3

      If they're buggering about with the 93's, god knows how the 99's will work out?

    • @StowmarketRailfreight
      @StowmarketRailfreight Місяць тому +2

      @@paulfuller7409 fair point. My mistake.

  • @bennythebrit
    @bennythebrit Місяць тому +4

    It was due to undertow testing at RIDC (Old Dalby) which has been shut since December due to a landslip.

  • @NorthWestLevelCrossingsChannel
    @NorthWestLevelCrossingsChannel Місяць тому +2

    Excellent video as always 👍

  • @railquest
    @railquest Місяць тому +3

    Whilst it's at Worksop, there were some light loco test runs from Worksop to Sheffield last week (twice a day in each direction Monday-Friday) on RTT, though non of them ran. If they were intended to be 93 runs then we may be close to further action🤞

  • @TrainsPlanesSpotter02333
    @TrainsPlanesSpotter02333 Місяць тому +1

    Amazing Video

  • @stephendavies6949
    @stephendavies6949 23 дні тому +1

    At this rate there'll be 37s still running when the 57s & 67s areno more...

  • @TrainPlaneSpotter02
    @TrainPlaneSpotter02 Місяць тому +2

    Great Video I Wonder What’s Happening Whit The 93

  • @levelcrossing150
    @levelcrossing150 Місяць тому +8

    It's about time this country started building quality rolling stock once again.

  • @martinbalmforth2665
    @martinbalmforth2665 Місяць тому +2

    They were ordered for specific jobs, but in the time between ordering, and delivery, this work dried up. There is a current huge surplus of electric locos in the UK, but a huge diesel loco shortage. Vthey should have ordered diesels or bi mode.

  • @MrRocketguitar
    @MrRocketguitar Місяць тому +1

    37 to the rescue always

  • @paulfuller7409
    @paulfuller7409 Місяць тому +3

    Interesting
    I wondered what’s going on. But whatever it is everyone is keeping stum

  • @BIGV710
    @BIGV710 Місяць тому +3

    yes the class 93 are parked up at valencia at the back you can see them easy i was there 4 ays ago in my artic

  • @conceyullena
    @conceyullena Місяць тому +1

    Like 👍beatiuful video, greetings 🚂👍🙋‍♂️

  • @stevenmoran4060
    @stevenmoran4060 Місяць тому +3

    Ordering locos and then not using them is what happens when you let Tocs come up with whatever they want built anywhere but UK and then not required to pay for them, British Rail pays the bill.
    Not rocket science to stop Derby closing down and design and build engines and coaching stock here again.
    We are, or were, quite good at it example Mark 3 coaches in use daily well over 40 years and clas 90 and 91 locos in service for the same amount of time.
    The Spanish units for Transpennine services just about managed 3 years!
    BR stock and locos were on test for that amount of time before entering service!

    • @1chish
      @1chish Місяць тому +2

      Except that there is no such thing as 'British Rail' and these locos are being funded by private businesses. And as its their cash they can do as they please.
      And if you think the UK was any good at building locos then your rose tinted glasses need changing. The list of troubled locos is long and sad. Apart from which Derby can't build locos. They build complete trains (EMU, DEMU,DMU).

  • @johnson_street_IEMD
    @johnson_street_IEMD Місяць тому +6

    They bought them for what appeared to be a contract with Grand Union and somewhere along the line, GU switched their traction plan for Voyagers instead of Push pull sets? Surely ROG are scrambling round for work for these and if the c37s are doing good, them, without work, the cl93s are surplus ? Just a thought .. 🤔

    • @annatrindall9829
      @annatrindall9829 Місяць тому +2

      No comparison.. .a class 90 would kick a 93's butt all day long

    • @paulfuller7409
      @paulfuller7409 Місяць тому +1

      ???? Don’t think so

    • @johnson_street_IEMD
      @johnson_street_IEMD Місяць тому +1

      @annatrindall9829 lol nice one Anna .. yes, I mean, technically, the 93 is unproven, and so far, has sat alone whilst 93002 to 93010 have sat awaiting a shipping date amd what they are going to be doing is uncertain

    • @annatrindall9829
      @annatrindall9829 Місяць тому +1

      @@johnson_street_IEMD it just begs the question WHY spend all that money on new locomotives and then not use them? Doesn't make sense to me at all. Surely they could be used for freight, or maybe on the sleeper..

    • @johnson_street_IEMD
      @johnson_street_IEMD Місяць тому

      @annatrindall9829 I think, listening to the dialogue, it's also something down to certification from NR but beyond that, it does seem like they are keeping their intentions quiet for them.

  • @michaeltaylor1869
    @michaeltaylor1869 Місяць тому

    Another cracking video well done great camera work as usual I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on UA-cam bye for now Philip

  • @personwhotalkstomuch4898
    @personwhotalkstomuch4898 Місяць тому +1

    The problem is in my opinion that they are building them in Spain like the EMUs & DMUs but their spec on the OHLE is completely different to here in the UK, hence they’re having to do a lot of software programming to get them to work. Look at those EMUs that LNWR ordered a while ago, they are only just coming into service after being delivered ages ago, some still awaiting in sidings to be commisioned.

    • @trainsplanes
      @trainsplanes  Місяць тому +1

      You’d of thought they’d have addressed any OHLE issues in advance due to learnings from the class 88 entry into service.

  • @aviano72
    @aviano72 Місяць тому

    Hmm, interesting
    I generally love Stadler trains and this 93 looks great

  • @colinsheppard9662
    @colinsheppard9662 Місяць тому +9

    But it hasn’t ran on the mainline it’s been towed. The loco hasn’t ran under its own power on the UK network

    • @1701_FyldeFlyer
      @1701_FyldeFlyer Місяць тому

      Dont you mean 'hasn't run' on the mainline?!

  • @jimihendrix991
    @jimihendrix991 Місяць тому +2

    ...or maybe the 93 was in stealth mode and they are testing the 37.... 😉

  • @andrewreynolds4949
    @andrewreynolds4949 Місяць тому

    There’s been a decent amount of online discussion over whether much of a market exists for the sort of niche these could take, and I tend to side against them. The class 99 seems a decent concept, with the high demand on similar class 66 roles; but these seem to be much more like the the class 67, which have shuffled around and struggled to find work too much of the time.

  • @chunx06
    @chunx06 Місяць тому

    It was only ever bought as a demonstrator, will never see use full time

  • @lisaodd3196
    @lisaodd3196 Місяць тому +1

    I still can't decide if I love it, or hate it...

  • @sapphirejunction8993
    @sapphirejunction8993 Місяць тому +2

    Electricity costs too much???...just go ask DB about it lol

  • @paulfuller7409
    @paulfuller7409 Місяць тому +3

    The 93 has issues with network rail. They will not release the paperwork for it to run until it’s sorted. Also the unions need to pass it as well
    The 99 is a unknown quantity at the moment. But are slated to work out of Felixstowe at the moment. We will see.

  • @jacobstrains-vr6uw
    @jacobstrains-vr6uw Місяць тому +1

    why didn't ROG just keep the 47s and 57s instead of giving them to GBRF and buying new trains

    • @leonblittle226
      @leonblittle226 Місяць тому +2

      Because they are old, past worn out and the parts supply for them is getting non-existent. 57004 was basically scrapped to keep the small GWR fleet in service, and even then 57312 is on hire for the PAD-RDG shunt release job

  • @delticnapierdccsound4236
    @delticnapierdccsound4236 Місяць тому +1

    They should paint it pink n stick a trunk on the front!

    • @latexborg
      @latexborg Місяць тому +1

      Nellie the Elephant. If anyone knows what we are on about 😅

    • @delticnapierdccsound4236
      @delticnapierdccsound4236 Місяць тому +1

      @@latexborg I totally do.

    • @latexborg
      @latexborg Місяць тому

      @delticnapierdccsound4236 but will the 93 Trump off to the circus 🎪 🤔 😉

    • @keithmatthews1673
      @keithmatthews1673 Місяць тому +3

      Pink? I''d go for white!

    • @delticnapierdccsound4236
      @delticnapierdccsound4236 Місяць тому

      @@keithmatthews1673 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

  • @user-gi3xw5yc5u
    @user-gi3xw5yc5u Місяць тому

    Who is running the Railways nowadays?.

  • @CT-pv9gu
    @CT-pv9gu Місяць тому +2

    Seems a shame with these new locos. All that effort to build them and they hardly get used... Same with the 69s - what are they even used for?

    • @jamescollins3647
      @jamescollins3647 Місяць тому

      The 60s are very busy, there hasn't even been time to paint 69009.

    • @paulfuller7409
      @paulfuller7409 Місяць тому

      69 General user loco
      to release. 66 s for other long haul work

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Місяць тому +2

      69s have been all over the place; plenty on engineering trains,RHTT & freight use

  • @ThatVoxelBlock
    @ThatVoxelBlock Місяць тому

    I would not even call it a run I call it a delivery run I wander has it even moved under its own power
    Edit: I found a video of 93 006 but running not in the uk

  • @petersmith4455
    @petersmith4455 Місяць тому +5

    hi, why can't the clowns at RO group use exsisting 90 and 86 locos, these 93s look ghastly and the driver can't look out of the cab

    • @delbennett4534
      @delbennett4534 Місяць тому +1

      I agree totally, European crap

    • @StPetersLayout
      @StPetersLayout Місяць тому +3

      Using outdated locos isn’t the future everything old does need to be replaced

    • @nigelbevan8449
      @nigelbevan8449 Місяць тому

      Have to agree with you 💯% Peter.

    • @johnson_street_IEMD
      @johnson_street_IEMD Місяць тому +2

      86s are all gone bar 86101, 259 and 401 .. 90s ... there's 12 going spare at Crewe IEMD

    • @jacobstrains-vr6uw
      @jacobstrains-vr6uw Місяць тому +1

      I see what you mean but unless you add a small generator or run them with a generator vehicle a pure electric loco is useless to ROG which is why diesel bi mode and even tri mode makes sense to have

  • @nigelbevan8449
    @nigelbevan8449 Місяць тому +5

    Sorry to be a killjoy, don't like the shape of the 93. I first saw this type of locomotive on the back of a low-loader leaving Portbury docks a few months ago... There just doesn't seem to be any character to it... Sorry, just my opinion though.

    • @terrier_productions
      @terrier_productions Місяць тому +4

      The last UK locomotive to have any flair or character so far is the 68 in my opinion. Problem is that all to most new locomotives will be either electric or bi-mode