Is the TIE INTERCEPTOR the MOST UNDERRATED Star Wars Ship?
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Today, we examine what may be the most UNDERRATED Starfighter in the Star Wars Universe -- the Tie Interceptor? More about one of the Galactic Empire's most famous ships on today's Star Wars Lore video!
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I agree that the the interceptor does make an ultimate dogfighter however it comes at the cost of a high learning curve. And it works more for the imperial as they have the luxury of training their pilots more and so they are able to survive better in a more vulnerable craft than an average rebel pilot may in the same craft. So, I think that is one reason why having shields while possibly being a crutch also is a very needed component of the rebel ships, along with a hyperactive as it allows them to make quick hit and run attacks rather than all out slug fests which the lesser trained rebel pilots may die more in, and the hyperdrice allows you to make an escape if things are going wrong.
Although I am pretty sure you know this all already.
"Your generic TIE grunt is just plain suicidal. And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty. But the TIE Interceptor pilot, he's suicidal and bloodthirsty. When you see a squad of those maniacs flying your way, you'd better hope your hyperdrive is operational."
- Kyle Katarn
Was about to post the same. As usual Kyle nailed it.
@@roshankattil8584 Kyle isn't debating against the technical superiority of the TIE Defender. He is simply stating that you're dealing with a different kinda crazy, when it comes to Interceptor pilots, who typically consisted of bloodthirsty adrenaline junkies.
Tie no shield lowest fire power you need to be suicidal to fly those. Tie D you earned your place you deserves the best things with ion engines so slaughter those rebels scum without impunity. Tie IN barely improvement on speed it wont save you from a mistake but with this six laser cannons straped on two engines so did your enemy, show to those cowards who hide behind their shield who are true master of galaxy.
This...all of this quote!
Roshan Kattil yeah, but Interceptor pilot’s aren’t as “babied” as much as it were. A few hits and they’re dead, they fight like every shot could very easily be their last.
Me, a TIE interceptor lover since the TIE Fighter game: “It is unavoidable”
I love the TIE interceptor because of SWBF 2
@@AgentLTK I have little experience in that game's starfighter mode but the TIE Interceptor truly is a beautiful craft no matter its depiction.
“It is only natural”
The Interceptor is the best in that game because it was gloriously simple.
As you progress through TIE Fighter's campaign, you are in increasingly complex ships where you have to manage shield direction and charge (they did not auto-balance after being hit and would not charge unless they were balanced), lasers, ion cannons, warheads, beam weapons, and eventually SLAM boosters. It makes you faster and deadlier, sure (though that's debatable with the Assault Gunboat) but you're spending more brainpower sorting through everything.
The Interceptor is a lot like it appears in Suqadrons though. Keep your speed up and your guns charged. That's all you have to worry about! Oh and have a few missiles if you want them!
Greg Mitchell Yeah that was a massive part of the craft that made it so fun. All you need to focus on is flying well and a little bit of power management and it was enough to see you through most problems it encountered.
I was actually surprised when I realised that First Order didn’t utilised TIE Interceptors as base for their main starfighter. It would look way cooler and make more sense. Especially if we consider the fact that we seen V-Wings in episode III which in few shots looked almost like their successors, the TIEs. TIE Interceptors from episode VI could have played similar role for the FO fighters.
Agreed, was very disappointing to see new First Order tie fighters based off the original. Doesn’t make much sense in universe. Simple answer, the original Tie design was chosen for mass fan recognition, appealing to even the most casual SW fan (hEy iTs a TiE fIgHtEr, I rEmEmBeR tHaT!)
concept art of TFA had Interceptors as base vehicle, JJ is just stupid "OH NOSTALgiiAiaIA, MYSTERY BOOOOX" and picked repainted TIEs
I think Disney's star wars is less for the fans and more for middle aged men who wanna relive their childhood... It's a quick cashgrab for the mouse. And nothing more.
I honestly think that the basic FO tie should have been the Tie Hunter and used the Tie Scimitar as the two seat bomber
Cause then it'd make little sense for the xwings to wipe the floor with them this time around.
I think the TIE Interceptor doesn't serve a role that requires a hyperdrive. As you said it's primarily a dog fighting ship, and in the SWU those types of battles occur mostly around planets, stations, and capital/escort ships. There isn't a need to add extra components that may slow the ship down. Unless you get left by your Star Destroyer and end up getting chased all over a planet by an X-Wing pilot with a hard-on for Imps.
Julio Martinez Shields would be the only thing needed for a Dog Fighter like this one. Shields in Star Wars also get rid of air resistance helping it go faster so you can further out maneuver the X-wing with a Boner
NightShadowDark The Nomad the thing of it was, the engine power more or less negated the drag issues, keeping it above the X Wing in speed in atmosphere, and its wing arrangement could actually make atmospheric combat advantageous for a skilled Interceptor pilot. It was the standard TIEs that lost a whole host of maneuvers removed by atmospheric flight.
Nuvakwahu Hm Interesting.
Michael Andrei Palon Boner is to obvious
Haha I love (and get) the last sentence
Why the First Order never focus on using TIE Interceptors as their main infantry ships baffles me so much.
@@jonathanzentelin2815 I think he means using TIE interceptors as their main fighter in space battles.
@@lepopcornnaisseur546 Yeah considering how effictice they are or better yet an upgraded version of the tie hunter to match the power and speed of the rebel fighters.
Its because Disney are morons and don't understand SW and everything in it.
@@DeathMetalThrasher ja
They used tie ba baron interceptor. Which ......
It's also underrated as a Lego set...
One of my fave models
They need to remake one
Exactly
I agree
At least they made a red one
The tie defender was a true monster though. If that had hit main production instead the alliance would have been in serious trouble as shown in rebels.
And they could have replaced all the ties if they hadn't wasted all the credits on death stars...
the 1st Death Star isnt impractical imo, just protect the trench with cheap corvettes and frigates and its pretty much set
The Defender is such a monster that it starts to feel like an abomination to me.
Generally, the balance between the Empire and Rebels is that the imperial fighters are faster and more numerous, but the rebel fighters have more staying power.
The Defender is simply the best in every single category. It's the A-Wings speed and maneuverability with the B-Wings armor and weapons. Which always makes it feel like a fanboy fighter for people who want their darling TIEs to be god-like and superior to everything without really needing any skill. It's a silly ship.
@@Yora21 well, it actually makes sense considering thrawn personally had a heavy hand in creating it. With a whole planet really dedicated to it...
@@Yora21 the Empire could design high-quality ships if they didnt waste all their money on Star Destroyers
The tie defender was a monstrous fighter... but it was also monstrously expensive and difficult to produce.
Eck: eh, the Interceptor's pretty lame, its flimsy and niche as hell.
*plays X-Wing Alliance*
Eck: that thing, it scares me.
Love it!
It’s only scary if you are in a Y-Wing. The Interceptor is an easy kill.
I'm not sure the performance in a video game is a good benchmark for comparison due to legendary vaguelys of balancing... 😁
C S The X-Wing novels actually follow them pretty closely most of the time. There is so much conflicting canon information I just stick to these four games and the X-Wing novels since they stay consistent. Even the original trilogy is inconsistent and full of plot armour.
The Interceptor had A-wing maneuverability with even more firepower. They were pretty damn unpleasant to go against but an absolute blast to fly, basically became my dream ship after X-Wing vs TIE Fighter
The interceptor is the best fighter
Loved it since I first saw jedi back in the mid 80s
The fighter was the fastest and six blasters but the agility was key the skill the pilot was the real reason I love it it forces you to gain your ace skills you get hit your dead but if you become an ace the interceptor would become deadly
Pilot skill over relying on tech shields to say relying on your skill to live made you an ace plus understanding your fighter and your enemy
Baron fel was the best of the best
yes I’m an imp interceptor fan boy 👍
I still have the big Interceptor model that you had to assemble yourself. Or beg your parents to. Remember that thing? About a foot wide and gray?
@@AF-tv6uf
LEGO UCS TIE Interceptor?
Although that was more around two feet...
@@VestedUTuber No it wasn't a Lego thing, it was a large toy that you had to put together out of the box. I forget what company.
@@AF-tv6uf
Probably either Hasbro or Kenner, then.
I would love to see a dog fight battle happen between all the pilots who claim to be the best in the galaxy lol
Keeping costs in mind, as well as standard Imperial doctrine, you wouldn't need a hyperdrive on the Intercepter, and as is, it is by far one of the best crafts in it's class.
If you need them for hit n' run attacks you could always pair them with a Quasar or a Gozanti. The lack of a hyperdrive is only really a problem if you need to get away, as seen in the last trailer. In any case, if the Imperials were to copy the Rebels hit n' fade tactics they would need to send something other than Intercepters, as the effectiveness of these tactics rely on missiles/torpedoes to do most of the damage.
In some of the books, the X-wing series in particular, you hear about shields saving fighter pilots on more than one occasion, so those might be effective as long as their installation doesn't interfere with the Intercepters mobility.
If the choice was between a hyperdrive and shields I'd think shields would be better, if you had to choose. Also helps keeping the costs down, and outfitting an entire galactic navy with ships can't be cheep.
Don't forget imperial doctrine was to prevent pilots from being able to defect.
Fighter pilots are the most independent, and thus the most vulnerable to rebel propaganda. So keeping the crafts dependent on Imperial transport means the pilots have no ready access to escape Imperial control without risking flying another vessel.
Personally I never saw the Interceptor an a bad fighter. A Squadron of Tie Interceptors would be pretty effective at the roles needed. The Fact they don’t have shields is just sad and dumb, Rogue Squadron called Tie Interceptor Pilots “Bloodthirsty and Suicidal” witch with just some Shields you can make sure more pilots survive to fight longer. Shields are not a Crutch they are a tool, so personally if I had to choose a stock interceptor Id rather have some RZ-2s witch are normally Shield than a Tie Interceptor. Granted Modified Tie Interceptors are probably some of the best Interceptors in the galaxy.
shields don't make a diff if they have enough fire power to bypass it in a secound.
Garmr Well then that depends on how good your shields are, and if they can even hit you in the first place. If a Tie Interceptor had Shields then most likely a X-wing and A-wing’s Blaster Cannons unless at max power probably wouldn’t one shot you, and even if they were Max Power hitting you can put all power into Shields or Speed most likely neutralizing it
Then you have to sacrifice speed and firepower generally, unless you're spending the kind of resources required to drop a Royal TIE Interceptor down, which there's a reason they were pretty much only used to protect the Emperor and sometimes an exceptionally important leader or station in at most a group of three.
A wings pilot took away there shields
Remember that the Imperial Royal Guards flew modified TIE Interceptors which WERE equipped with both Hyperdrives and Shields. Clearly there is room for modification
Royal Guard TIE Interceptors are sweet! Easily my favorite Star Wars fighter.
Yes, but how prohibitively expensive is it? How miniaturized are those components to fit? They're used to protect the Emperor and that's about it, maybe a few to especially high value and important Imperials.
@@pubcle no question about it, but I was specifically referring to the physical space limitations
That version of the TIE Interceptor should be the one passed for mass production
@@TerminatorGundam300 Far too resource-intensive for the purpose. The Royal TIE Interceptors were built to fully invest into the fight and be able to take on small ships, to be highly versatile and protective ships. The standard TIE was made for patrolling and screening, purely to intercept and reduce the effectiveness of enemy fighters. The TIE did not need to be independently capable, that wasn't what it was designed for in the combined arms doctrine of the Empire.
Eck today: Man, I guess Ive been underestimating the TIE/in Interceptor.
Eck a few days from now: Hmm... maybe the Imperial Class Star Destroyer really is the best Capital ship.
I would actually like to see Eck reevaluate other Star Wars ships.
No defending the ISD really, at least not in its role as the Empire's one-size-fits-all warship. The ISD is a great battleship, perfect for slugging it out with other capital ships or performing orbital bombardment. But battleships are expensive, manpower and resource hungry, and they lack versatility. (This is one of the many reasons no real life Navy fields them anymore) I think Eck has addressed this before, but the Empire would have been much better served by diversifying its fleet and leaning more on multirole ships like cruisers and corvettes. Battlegroups built around 1 or 2 ISD's would have served the Empire far better than just producing more and more of the same ship.
I think the thing you are forgetting is imperial doctrine was control through fear. The ISD's were designed to look scary, so that their presence would force compliance.
@@Cylus1527 See, the ISD really was a great ship. The problem read that the Empire tried to use them for things it wasn't made for. It would have ruled the Clone Wars if they hadn't ended, and the next time someone showed up with actual capital ships for it to fight, they were built as part of a strategy to defeat specifically the ISD.
It is a castle in space that has its own siege weapons.
It is also fast and can carry a huge amount of fighters, troops, armour, and supply.
It is imperial authority mobile
Starship Dealer: "Okay, let's finalize this! I can give you six TIE Interceptors or two X-Wings for the same price."
Me: "What's that over there?"
Starship Dealer: "Oh, good eye! That's the TIE Defender, our latest model in the series."
Me: "Six TIE Interceptors and six TIE Defenders should fill my Dreadnought hanger nicely." *Clunks down a bag of credit chits*
Starship Dealer: "Very good, sir. Now...may I ask where you got that Dreadnought cruiser? Are you a member of the Corporate Sector Authority, or are you a private party?"
Me: *Clunks down half again as many credit chits* "Does it really matter?"
Starship Dealer: *Writes something down on the bill of sale while sliding the bags of credits behind his desk* "Imperial Moff...fully licensed to make own purchases...done! Where would you like these delivered?"
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I only like because you must have hurt your fingers writing that
Only 12 light fighters for a dreadnought hanger sounds like a massive waste of space.
@@chengyunma4497 I always thought so, too. I was going by the listed capacity of a Dreadnought cruiser in the old Star Wars Rebellion PC game. Both the Rebel Alliance and the Empire could build them, and they were my favorite mainstay capital ships during the early phase of the game.
@@chengyunma4497 Well the Dreadnought class cruiser is kinda small so a hanger that can hold twelve fighters is pretty extravagant.
Chengyun Ma Hey 12 is better than none
I saw "Return of the Jedi" in theaters in 1983 with my best friend.
When the Interceptor showed up on screen, we were both hooting and pointing at it like idiots. "What is THAT?!" "Look at that thing!".. it looked sooooo good compared to a standard TIE.
I was hooked immediately.
It has been, and always will be my favorite Star Wars starfighter.
Personally, I would go even further to say that it's not just TIE/IN, but also TIE/LN that is underrated.
Sure, lack of protection is an issue. But the first rule of fighting is to not get hit, which is achieved by either destroying the target first or to evade incoming fire. The latter is achieved by TIE's superior maneuverability, while the two laser cannon can deal with any threat it came across. Most form of protection add considerable mass, hinder ships maneuverability while didn't actually provide that much protection in return (even X-wings can't take more than a few hits).
People seem to forget that TIE/LN were doing well against most non-Imperial starfighters before the Rebel got their hands on X-wing, which by that time, TIE/LN was already about a decade old, and it's only natural that state-of-the-art X-wing would be designed in parts to exploit TIE/LN's weakness.
I personally don't see much problems with TIE not having hyperdrive. They are designed as integrated part of the fleet, not really as stand-alone fighter like X-wings.
The thing with the basic TIE is that a fighter focused entirely on maneuverability at the expense of anything else is entirely dependent on its pilot's skill level (take it from someone who mains an Origin M50 in Star Citizen), and the Galactic Empire was using them as their rank-and-file fighter. The basic TIE is a capable ship in the hands of the right pilot, of course, but the Empire was stuffing everyone and their grandmother into the cockpits of those things and hoping that numbers would reduce the liability caused by the individual pilots' skill levels.
If I was in charge of deciding who gets to fly what, I'd assign the rookies to something more survivable (Defenders, Avengers, Aggressors) and give the LNs to people who can handle them. Or better yet, replace the LNs with DNs (Remote piloted drone fielded by the Dark Empire in Legends, looks a bit like if a Vulture Droid was built based on TIE series design specs) so that losing a fighter doesn't mean also losing the pilot.
I think it's worth pointing out that in A New Hope, Ties are trading near even against X-wings. The deflectors don't really let the X-wing tank hits or anything like that - we see short bursts of laser fire from Ties turn them into fireballs quickly enough.
The tie fighters are a clear reference to Japanese Zeros from WWII. And it is true that a skilled pilot would be able to out- dogfight any other fighter. Unfortunately for the Japanese (and by extension the Empire) solo dogfights are rendered obsolete by proper wingman tactics. The US developed these mid way through the war in the Pacific and almost immediately the battle for air supremacy turned in favor of the US. Yes, if fighting only one enemy at a time superior speed and maneuverability will allow you to avoid getting hit. But if your enemies refuse to engage in one on one fights and always work in pairs then it is unlikely that you will get a shot off without also exposing yourself to enemy fire. And the enemy is far more durable than you.
The experience of even skilled Tie pilots should be frustration as they are unable to safely get a bead on any rebel fighter while having to constantly dodge attacks that are fatal to them while their enemy can safely tank a few volleys.
Fly better
This is something I would voice among friends in the Star Wars community for a while now. The early TIE series is a respectable design that did its job well enough. Basically the idea of a cheaper and quicker to make V-wing that is meant to take on pirates and criminals who are dumb enough to take on the Empire. Outdated by the time of the Rebellion yes but even then as mentioned in this thread they actually still did well in spite of that fact even in the films.
Yes, they very attractive ships
A 10
Looks way better than the ugly looking TIE fighter
They are the most deadly looking fighters in Star Wars cannon.
All TIEs are underrated thanks to all the games (and novels taking inspiration from those games) giving Rebel ships hugely more defenses than they ever had in the movies.
I disagree, shields in the X-Wing simulators aren't all that hot. Now the Rogue Squadron games? Yeah they made TIEs too weak and player ships too tanky.
In the 90s games, the TIEs were way more maneuverable, and more numerous. I think that made it pretty balanced and fitting the lore.
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 Yeah it wasn't till Rogue Squadron that TIEs became a total joke.
Sheilds, in a fashion similar to Kevlar vests arent 'blaster proof' merely 'blaster resistant' - a few salvos and that X-wing becomes little more than flaming debris
Agreed.
Something to keep in mind is that we a baseline TIE fighter, while only having two laser cannons, has those cannons be stupid powerful as all energy from the power pack is going to either the engines or weaponry since there’s no shields, life support, or hyperdrive.
The result is that even basic TIEs are flying glass cannons, with their strafing runs throwing up explosions comparable to 40-50mm shells, using the strafing run in TFA as an example.
Theres a better, even more underrated figher, that is interestingly also an Interceptor: The CIS Trifighter. It even more cheap and mobile. Plus it doesnt need a pilot (which is fine for an interceptor). Plus, it carries rockets. The Tie Interceptor might the best at his role, but the Trifighter is the bestest.
Seriously. Too bad you can't do (at least the last time I played it) CIS vs Empire in Battlefront II.
my fav fighter in PSP version of battlefront II
@@mbogucki1 S.W.B.F.2 destination mustafa space battle....
The republic V- Wing is an other underrated craft interceptor.....
in the early clone wars there really shouldnt been a way the CIS should have lost fights as they could of just used their fighters for kamikaze runs, and you see like one pass from a squadron of droid bombers cripple a venator, the shows really does the CIS injustice
even in cost a Vulture droid cost 40,000 and a V-19 cost 75,000 credits just for the fighter you then got to put the cost of the clone on top
The TIE Interceptor doesn't need a hyperdrive. An interceptor's role is to stop other small craft from getting near your capital ships. The Empire didn't need to use hit and run tactics only to defend against them. So why make an "expandable" more expensive to produce?
I would assume that a hyperdrive probably would be just as expensive as the entire fighter you install it into. Especially when the fighter has a simple and lightweight construction.
I don't see what TIEs would gain by having hyperdrives. They can be made ready for launch in hyperspace and they don't have to carefully taxi out of hangars. As soon as their carrier ship jumps out of hyperspace, they can release the docking clamps and have the whole squadron lined up for attack in seconds.
Large carriers are expensive ships, but for the Empire (though not for the Imperial Remnant) money is not an issue, and neither is access to shipyards and construction resources.
@@Yora21 Not to mention, the hyperdrive would presumably draw power and increase weight of the fighter, thus reducing its performance in battle. Plus I dont even think carriers are that expensive, at least purpose built ones like Quasar Fire or even old Lucrehulk's. They seem to get thrown around alot.
2:41 TIE Interceptors were a combination of speed and destructiveness
>gets bodied by a Y-Wing
😂😂😂😂😂
2:41 TIE Interceptor: good combination of speed and destructiveness
Y-wing: I'm about to end this ship's career.
lol, the Y-wing was too slow to save his buddy in the A-wing though
RIP A-wing guy.
@@nick-hu1nx Meh. He wasn't paying attention and not even chasing anything...
@@bencoomer2000 ha, just a chill ride in the Chad armor of a Y-wing
The Empire had a large enough navy to take the Interceptor where ever it was needed unlike the Rebellion which had fewer ships and needed its fighters to be able to operate away from capital vessels. So I don’t think it was a flaw in the design, that coupled with the fact that shields allowed pilots to become lazy so to speak were two of the Interceptors greatest advantages over other fighters.
There is opportunity cost as well. Why add shields when that power could go towards more speed and firepower and the weight saving to more manuverability.
If i was modding a TIE interceptor i'd add a small number of missiles maybee 4 or 6 and perhaps boost the sensors. Nothing more
To quote a TIE pilot in the novel Death Star, "I prefer dodging fire over hoping it bounces off."
i would add the weakest shield i could. light enough to not make a difference in performance but just strong enough to tell me that there is someone behind me. even the best pilots have bad days and a well placed shield though weak can save you from unexpected death.
@@thatguybrody4819 or at least a particle shields and enough energy shields to resist a wing fire it’s only match in a dogfight
I think interceptors are fine without hyperdrive - apart from special variants, of course. Their role is in the name and they fit perfectly.
You know I find it kind of funny the fact that lot of people don't realize the roll Tie fighters play in the Imperial Navy. They're all basically interceptor why put a hyperdrive on something that's basically designed to be an escort.
@@DJ-kp7mf maybe on few so the ship can immediately have cover after a jump
Underrated? Tell that to Lt. Kasan Moor and the 128th Tie Interceptor Squadron! Heck no.
In a vacuum the TIE Interceptor is one of the best star fighters of all time in star wars. The problem is the same one that afflicts most of the TIE line. It is so concerned with the ship being cheap it ends up relying heavily upon the skills of the pilots.
Skilled
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Yes it needs shields. If you don't have them then you will lose those expensive pilots to random cr@% they simply didn't see coming. There is no amount of git good scrub that is going to enable you to see everything in the chaos of a massive battle, or clue you in to an ambush before the shooting starts.
And it needs missiles. The Interceptor is meant for anti star fighter action. It simply doesn't need massive torpedoes that can crack capital ship hulls. Smaller ordinance is not only cheaper and easier to carry, but can be faster and more agile while still having enough punch to down enemy fighters. Plus it gives your pilots more options to fight without risking their lives.
Hyperdrive doesn't really matter honestly. It just makes sense to have the majority of the fleet's fighting power use carriers. What the Empire really needed was fleet diversity. Specifically they needed a branch of their fleet to be a dedicated rapid response force. The response force will likely want as few carriers and as many hyperspace capable ships as it can get. It simply works better with the necessarily different strategies and doctrines of such a force. The only question is which branch of the navy you want this fighter to be in. Fleet composition and logistics, not fighter design or performance.
In summary, the best TIE is the Chir'daki.
2:42 Two T/I get owned by a Y-Wing.
Obviously something like a T/D, even a T/A is likely better power/performance-wise, but balancing cost vs ability, the T/I is probably best. It's nimble, fast, quad gunned. Hard to beat.
Yeah, shields might make a pilot a little more complacent, but getting killed in a TIE by a stray shot or debris from something you just blasted also sucks.
I hate the "shields make you complacent" argument. Shields might keep you from dying before you get good at piloting. That is all.
As someone who beat every (possible) mission in the original Rogue Squadron using the TIE Interceptor, I think the ship is possibly one of the best starfighters in the galaxy. It puts everything into speed and maneuverability, so a skilled pilot can use it's relatively high firepower to devastating effect. The lack of shielding is.. a detriment, but that can be compensated for with skill.
I told everyone I knew that watches you, "He's gonna learn real quick how scary TIEs can be, and learn even faster how scary an Interceptor is..."
Suicidal and Bloodthirsty.
Just slap some shields and a hyperdrive on the Interceptor and it’s good.
Like they did in XvT Balance of Power? :D
If I recall in Legends that's what they did, and they kept using it up until the Yuuzhan Vong crisis. I don't know when exactly they switched over from the upgraded TIE models to the TIE Predator.
That exists. Its called the TIE/d Defender.
Then it is called Tie Advanced. Add some ion cannons and more speed for a Tie Defender :)
Then you have a TIE Avenger.
The tie interceptor is my favorite tie variant
Mine too
Same! It’s amazing! Idk how it could possibly be underrated!
Mine is the tie defender, but the interceptor is definitely a close second
Word, blob bob.
Blob Blob an excellent choice! 🧐
I used to prefer look of TIE Interceptor to regular TIE, but since every TIE and their mothership has fancy solar panel arrangement, i have started to like the classical TIE more and more. If everyone is special, nobody is.
I'm not a huge fan of the new trilogy but I will say the reverse color scheme on the TIE-fo looks really cool.
@@thelonious2213 I thought solar panels are dark blue
A hyperdrive on an interceptor really only makes sense for a squadron of them, given to essentially an elite strike force who's mission is to harass rebel forces in hit and run attacks. Otherwise, I don't think I'd bother in the Empires position
#AskEck what do you think the empires Navy look like if the Tarkin doctrine wasn’t adopted? Would they have made efforts to go with more efficient ships that have a more of a survivability rate? For example making all ships having shields? That’s an example of course, I’d love to get your opinion on this.
As cool as the Interceptor is my preferred Tie variant is the Hunter.
I wish that Disney and Lucasfilm would officially canonize the Chiss Clawcraft, which is a TIE Hunter that is better in almost every conceivable way because it was designed by Chiss.
@@anthonylamonica8301 they'd probably canonize the Clawcraft before the Hunter..
The tie hunter is my favorite star fight it’s pretty much a interceptor mixed with a x wing then add twin ion cannon
I know of a few instances in legends where Interceptors were retrofitted with shielding and hyperdrives like those flown by Admiral Trigit and his escorts at the end of Wraith Squadron but it was observed that such customisation compromised speed and manoeuvrability enough that an X-Wing was able to catch up as they were fleeing.
Maybe a wing level shields would work or heavier shields with more powerful propulsion
I'd still go with Thrawn's design, the TIE Defender.
Yes, it has an expense, but the craft is superior and would run circles around most craft. Thrawn has a good head on his shoulders, and I'd trust any design of his.
The Interceptor is my hands down favorite TIE design. I love the Defender for it's capabilities, but aesthetically I love the Interceptor.
The tie interceptor is probably my favorite Star Wars fighters. It’s shape and body look amazing and it is more practical than the tie fighter.
We see TIE interceptors with hyperdrives and shields in some of the X-Wing and maybe in one of the Wraith Squad books (been a while since I read them) But they were always reserved as a bug out craft for a high ranking Imperial officer and that is a huge, huge waste. Your average high ranking Imperial Navy officer while he might know how to fly the ship.... thats about where his skill is going to end, they spend much much more time commanding larger ships. Put a squad of those together and you have a huge advantage.
Even though an interceptor with hyperdrive and shield is slower then one without it still is much faster then a X-Wing. Put a squad or several squads together and give them escort duty. Then you can have your ships out already as you jump into high risk areas and you don't have to worry about the delay in launching and recalling them. You could also send them into Rebel or suspected Rebel territory and preform some of the same hit and run strikes. Granted this is really only likely to happen after the NR forms and the Empire is on the run but still. An interceptor without shield and hyperdrive isn't as effective as it could be.
Plus the best pilots would get shields as they are valuable assets
I never thought it was underrated. I thought its was well known how cool it is, more laser cannons, more nimble, and it looks way sleeker
Lots of people love to hate on any fighter without shields, even though the shields dont seem to do much for them.
@@lenkagamine4145 why does durability matter if you one shot supposedly durable fighters
while shield's do let some piolets be able to let there be mistakes, the empire still should have had shield's in their ship's since shields are able to be used correctly with the right piolet in it, and they offer that margin of error that could save their life if need be
Yeah but keep the shields light to keep the speed and low cost like a wings or z95s at least have particle shield to defend vs debris or small asteroids and energy shields stray laser fire or outdated laser fire or craft like the a wing the only common fighter that can match its mobility
It also messes up an economy geared towards moving fighting age men to Imperial ranks indefinitely so the worlds have no men to rebel with. You need spots to fill, and you can't do that if everyone stays alive all the time. So, you don't outright kill them, or make things obviously dangerous, but you do remove handrails, set up a culture of skill and bravery as better than lazy cowards with shields, have stormtrooper "Elite" training always have a few fatalities because they were "unfit".
I all ways love the tie interceptor and the tie hunter and the tie defender (;
Yep,the Tie Interceptor is an ace's fighter. It is probably the best fighter in the hands of a top tier pilot in all of Star Wars
Vindicator cruiser vs a gladiator cruiser its been a long time since you did a vs
Personally I prefer A-wings, but I would fly interceptors if I had to do something VERY cheap. And if the Tie interceptors had hyperdrives... They'd be really good, as long as it didn't drag on their combat effectiveness.
"And if the Tie interceptors had hyperdrives"
That's a TIE Avenger.
@@VestedUTuber You might be right. Didn't the Avenger also have shields though? It also has a pretty long side profile
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Pretty sure it does but mainly to the same degree as its predecessor, the TIE Advance.
As for the side profile, it's long compared to a normal TIE but it's only a bit longer than other TIE Advance sized ships, and it's still smaller than a Lone Scout, -flying barn door- Punisher or Silencer. Plus it's not as tall as the "pod and panel" style TIEs.
Some senior officers had hyperdrive modified interceptors in place of shuttles (though I don’t think we see many outside the X-wing books) and Thrawn introduced a shield equipped version into use (though I don’t think they ever entirely replaced the stock version); even ordinance launchers could be fitted if desired. Neither version suffered for the modifications so you could very well do so. If anything it seems like the interceptor was a rather versatile craft that could be modified for any number of roles if needed.
The interceptor is AMAZING in starfighter assault
Definitely, it’s more or a less a direct upgrade to the fighter
Pretty easy fix to just give them hyperdrive rings or a hyperdrive capable shuttle. That way you have a coordinating mind behind a squadron being sent out to intercept or recon. Slapping some kind of shield, even if it’s just covering the rear would go a long way to survivability for the interceptor. Yes it has the powerful in front and fast but a lucky shot can cripple or kill even a ace tie pilot which is an unbelievable bad cost.
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*Faction Versus Battle*
The Sith Empire *[Star Wars Old Republic]* vs the Covenant *[Halo].*
*Oh My Starclan!*
*TIE Intercepters vs Phasers?
TIE Intercepter: *nervous sweating*
Phasers: *Ah, More Cannon Fodder.*
What would the Star Wars equivalent of a P-40E?
I've been saying this for years. The Interceptor is the best standard-issue starfighter used by either side of the conflict and it is by a pretty wide berth.
At least when it comes to dogfighting and air superiority. Use a Y-wing if you need a bombing run.
The A-wing is almost too fast, to the point where I often found in the old games I had little time to do anything as I zoomed past my target, so I had to slow down and lose all my advantage. And the Interceptor has much more damage output and mobility.
The X-wing doesn't know what it wants to be, and in its attempt to cover all it's bases, just ends up being standard.
The Standard TIE is not fast enough or otherwise mobile enough to really overcome it's shortcomings. It's okay, but the X-Wing is better.
The TIE Bomber sucks. It either needs intense shielding or, even better, much higher speed and acceleration. It doesn't actually need to be as agile as the Interceptor, but it should have as much pure speed.
The Y-wing is awesome, but plays a fundamentally different role.
The A-wing has to be used differently, its more of a hit and run fighter. Dive in and if you miss the enemy keep going so they cant retaliate. Dont know if you can use it like that in the game, just talking from experience with high speed planes in flight sim games.
as for bombers, I'd say the B-wing is the best one. Y-wing is adequate but doesnt really shine in any particular capacity.
@@lenkagamine4145 For the record, all of this came from my experience in the Star Wars: Tie Fighter and X-Wing games.
I totally agree conceptually with the B-wing, but they didn't give you a lot of time in that ship and the time they DO give you proves it to be an extremely technical ship that has a high potential but a lot of bizarre oddities holding it back, largely due to its extremely unoptimized shape.
While the Y-Wing is easy to hit if you're strafing it from above, the B-Wing is easy to hit from almost any angle other than straight from above or below. This is especially bad as a bomber because you need to be directly approaching the big capital ships to do that and you're just a much easier target than the flat Y-wing for those ship's anti-fighter weaponry.
Also, because your guns are so off from center compared to the cockpit, you basically have to adjust your aim differently depending on how far away a foe is. And this is extremely awkward. Sure, you need to adjust your aim for all sorts of factors anyways, but this needlessly adds another factor.
But I'd say the worst thing is that if at ANY point you have to fly very close to anything, debris, a capital ship, anything at all, the odds of you smashing into that thing are extremely high because of how hard it is to keep situational awareness of your craft.
Now to be fair, ALL of this is the sort of thing you can get used to and compensate for. But a good user interface is meant to make it so that you don't NEED to compensate. As such I just can't give the B-Wing my approval. Even with much lower specs and outdated tech, I still think the Y-Wing is just fundamentally better.
And yeah, I get that the A-Wing is meant to be used differently, but again it's extremely high specs actually make it struggle with this, in my experience.
Don't get me wrong, it's still a very good ship and it probably competes with the X-Wing for my second favorite ship that is currently playable in Squadrons (which is why I didn't go over the B-Wing at all originally).
But for the hit and run tactics you describe, it moves so fast that it often doesn't have time to actually do enough damage to take out your target. At least in my experience.
It actually fares better in Squadrons from what I've seen, due to how you can mod your ship. Giving it the mod that decreases top speed while increasing turning speed is a great match for it. I haven't done enough testing to see if it's twin cannons do as much damage as the Interceptor's four. If so, then it will be as good, I'd think (or better, due to shields). Although even then, I tend to like the spread of the 4 cannons better myself. It's more forgiving of not being exactly on target, especially for targets with small profiles like the Y-Wing from behind.
I mean, I know I'm talking like some sort of authority, but this is just me relaying what my experiences were with the old games and my very little experience so far with the new one. It's just my opinion.
TIE Interceptor all the way! I'll probably main in the interceptor when Squadrons comes out.
You know no ones watched the entire video when they're commenting this early
The Royal Guard Interceptor was my absolute favorite fighter in Star Wars Galaxies. This was despite the obvious favouritism they gave to the x-wing. They gave it THREE weapon mounts and only 1 for the interceptor which completely flies in the face of ALL lore.
TIE ships were cheap and expendable just like how the empire viewed its soldiers. Rebels needed more sturdy ships because they have to use guerilla tactics in the war and I'd imagine good pilots were harder to come by so they wanted to keep them alive a bit better.
The imperial troops were well trained and equipped but they were numerous due to the sheer population and resources of the empire
There is value in a fighter being able to take some damage. If a rookie doesn't survive, they never become a veteran, and the skill ceiling of their craft isn't relevant. Though I do think the TIE interceptor is probably the best starfighter in widespread Imperial service.
In Legends it isn't unheard of for Tie interceptors to have shields or a hyperdrive, but that means increased cost and less maneuverability. I don't think hyperdrives should be standard issue on the interceptor, but perhaps a piece of optional equipment for special operations squadrons to give them more range and independence for their missions.
The "agility is more important than armour" approach was tried and tested in WW2 - some nations such as Japan, Russia, and Italy tried this approach, while Germany, Britain, and the US mostly went with what we now consider to have been the conventional approach for WW2 fighters.. With good reason since, apart from the initial shock of the Zero, combat experience was that while the really GOOD pilots could thrive with the lighter designs, most pilots did better with a little more armour as long as they used tactics that employed their strengths rather than trying to dogfight a Zero or a Yak-3. Higher survival rates among the greener pilots, as well as reducing losses in general, also gives pilots more of an opportunity to get the experience to BECOME aces. As a result, both Russia and Japan were switching to the more conventional approach by the end of the war.
Which probably could be translated to the TIE Interceptor replacing the regular TIE Fighter. Ace squadrons would be really scary with it. Regular squadrons probably wouldn't be that much better off than with regular TIEs.
In terms of hyperdrive... given the Interceptor's mission parameters and Imperial expectations (pilots are expendable, and they'll usually be in control of the battlespace afterwards), it's probably not all that essential. They're intended to achieve fighter superiority while capital ships do the heavy lifting. A multirole ship which can be expected to present more of a threat to a capital ship on its own would benefit more from the hyperdrive, but at that point you're looking at adding ordnance launchers and possibly shields as well as a hyperdrive... which is basically making it a TIE Avenger.
Your damn right this ship is underrated!!!!
You can fly LITERAL circles around a X-Wing mid-flight!!!
No, because I've always thought they were the best mass-production TIE around. :)
I don't feel a hyperdrive is particularly valuable as the Empire bases everything around Star Destroyers, and if not that, Tonn-Falks or some other converted carrier. The Empire's idea of a sneak attack is an interdictor of some type, which is going to have an escort, which is going to be able to carry some TIEs. If you really need a fast moving hit and run squadron for some reason, you might as well use Avengers or Defenders or even Assault Gunboats
Tie interceptors are great ships and deadly in the hands of a capable pilot. Used correctly, no hyperdrive is not a problem but the lack of shields is an issue for 3 reasons.
1. Effective Training should stop you becoming over reliant on the shields and keep you sharp.
2. Even the best pilot makes mistakes occasionally. The shield will help prevent losing your best pilots through occasional minor mistakes.
3. It is said of pilots that good judgement comes from long experience but achieving long experience is seldom the result of bad judgement…. Similarly, x-wing stories state that pilots have a high chance of death in their 1st 5 combat missions (and after which survival rates increase). Combat experience is crucial to building skills and a shield will help get past the rookie stage.
Adding a shield to an interceptor is possible but slows it down. I believe it is still faster than the x-wing when carrying shields so would be the superior dog fighter but the X-wing is still the better all rounder if you want to mix anti fighter with a capability against larger vessels in a single type (which is generally cheaper than mixing types)
The X wing and Tie fighter are supposed to reflect the mustang and zero respectively. This is why the X wing has longer range, greater firepower and greater durability while the Tie fighter sacrifices all this for speed, maneuverability and low cost. The Tie Interceptor just takes this oppositional relationship even further by focusing even more on speed and maneuverability while adding more firepower.
So in a 1 on 1 dogfight a skilled pilot will always win with a tie interceptor (zero) against an X wing (p51 mustang). This is why in the early war in the Pacific the US took massive casualties to its pilots and planes. However, with proper squadron tactics that avoid ever engaging in 1v1 fights that werebdevelioed by the mid war the tables turned rather drastically and as time went on Japanese casualties became so high that kamikaze attacks actually became more efficient than conventialan air assaults.
So, to answer you question of which ship is better, I would say it depends. A skilled pilot planning on fighting 1v1 dogfights will want a tie interceptor. But if I were planning on my fighter wings acting as a unit, cared about the safety of the pilots, and wanted my air (in this case space) wings to be able to accomplish more varied objectives than intercepting enemies, then I would choose the X wing.
In fact, the X wing was by far the best designed fighter in Starwars. Its durable and heavily enough to threaten capital ships, maneuverable enough to engage in dogfights and is perfectly designed for the sorts of squadron level tactical maneuvers that render individual dogfighting prowess moot. A well drilled and disciplined X wing squadron should be a match for even the most elite to interceptor squadron simply because in group fights durability trumps maneuverability (as the pacific theater in WWII proves).
I have never underestimated the TIE Interceptors, but I do prefer the A-Wing and the V-Wing (the fighter of the Republic, not the speeder with that same name)
Speaking of the A-Wing, the fact that they were faster, and even more manuvrable than the TIE Interceptors, even after all I have heard of it, makes the A-Wing even more of an impressive interceptor
I hope with the X-Wing and TIE INTERCEPTOR you can switch fire modes.
Stutter, dual then Quad shots!! 🤯😍🤤
TIE hunter fixes all the problems, has hyperdrive, shields, proton torpedo launcher, they even threw the b-wing ion cannon on the thing for good measure. the ultimate marry sue starfighter.
you dont need a hyperdrive on your interceptor, and in fact it would be kinda stupidly wasteful and unnecessary even. Putting a hyperdrive on a multirole fighter/bomber however makes entire sense. theyre designed for different jobs. the interceptor, is as its name implies, used for intercepting enemy fighters and providing air defense for your carrier. thus, as the interceptor is attached to the carrier, burdening them with the extra mass of a hyperdrive is only going to hamper their mobility in dogfights. And well, if your carrier gets destroyed then that does suck, but by that time youve already lost, and at least from the empire's perspective, failure is not an option.
Oh hell yeah it is. I think it's my favorite OT starfighter.
Its always been my favorite Star Wars Starfighter design. Glad its getting some love.
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May you do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man faction versus video soon please?
I really love the TIE interceptor, it's fast and agile, not too fast to be uncontrollable, just give it some canon first order tech and armor and it'll do very very well, if I was an imperial pilot I'd definitely take this over the Defender if it had shields.
Dude if I could make a video with eckhartsladder, my life would literally be complete not even playing.
Squints are good for their price and if you have a carrier full of them with a lancer escort, then it is a great interception force, add an interdictor to that. and you have a swift fast response interception squad. Granted without a large capital ship for heavy support, it might be limited in the rolls a squad of that makeup could do, but squints are hand down the best in their cost range.
As long as you keep pilot quality up, high skill/low cost fighters like the Tie series are a great investment. But as soon as you start skimping on training, those same fighters turn into death traps.
I think that would choose the ti defender because hit had a hyperdrive and I think that it would help the crumbling empire because they could do more hit and run attacks. also the tie defender was extremely fast ass Darth Vader states the Jedi would have. gasped at the speed and mobility of the tie defender the tie x1 was the only ship the came close to. but I still think that the tie defender is better because if the shields that were more of a crutch. Thrawn used them as shields to protect his SSD form a salvo of ion blasts.
A tie interceptor with a hyperdrive is only useful in combat if it were useful in hit and run attacks or you needed it to arrive before your capital ships for some reason. Hyperdrive equipped interceptors just don't fit into imperial war doctrine.
Next you should compare the tie whisperer to the tie interceptor that would be a great comparison
This is my opinion. TIES Are for protection as they are small and fast. Interceptors are able to be the strike force they are faster and have better weapons so a small squad of these things is nothing to sneeze at
i love the trailer TIE pilot was having trouble and even got hit, but then he took his helmet off activating his plot armor.
The First time I saw the Tie Interceptor, I fell in love with it. It has been my favorite Star War Star-Fighter ever since.
While the best defense against getting hit is just not getting hit in the first place you still want to have analog back ups or just back ups in general to give you a little extra time at least the only reason why the tie interceptor works is because it so fast and so agile but when even a glancing shot can completely destroy your fighter it’s a big problem
So a starfighter min-maxing attack over defense.
Definitely the type everyone is going to nerf.
I’ve always really liked the tie interceptor. It looks cool I like the design and its personally one of my fav imperial ships.
I think the eta-2 Jedi interceptor is actually better than the TIE interceptor
liked the video first thing I always trust that your videos will always be good
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They used to be terrifying in the Star Wars Xwing miniatures game in the hands of a skilled pilot.
The hyperdrive is definitely a must have for any star fighter that is intended to be used for long range power projection. So if the Interceptor were to truly become the main star fighter of the Empire, then yes, it would need one to be effective.
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That’s my choice
Re: hyperdrives: The Empire's decision to not make mass use of hyperdrives is far and away the largest blunder they made.
The TIE series is heavily influenced by the IRL Mitsubishi A6M Zero, a light fighter with excellent maneuverability and moderate firepower designed to escort bombers and engage hostile defenders in enemy airspace. And that's the most important feature: as an escort, it had _excellent_ flight range. All of this was at the expense of heavy armor and heavy weapons. Early British and American forces in the Pacific were caught off guard especially since their commanders refused to spare newer aircraft from the European theater of WW2.
The problem was that without the range advantage as Allied fighters attacked Japanese positions, the Zero was extremely vulnerable on defense. Allied aircraft had heavier armor and self-repairing fuel bladders and some were equally as fast. The defensive shortcomings became more glaring as the offensive strengths were reduced.
The Rebel hit and run tactics mitigate the TIE Interceptor because it cannot pursue enemy fighters into hyperspace or micro jump across a system to stop a fleeing blockade runner. Within the scale of Star Wars it is always on the defense where it's extreme speed and limited range are liabilities instead of strengths. And that's why the TIE Defender and its more generalist variations ultimately replace the early TIE series.
I'd argue the TIEs have more in common with the Spitfire in terms of their overall function as short range, defensive craft. As you said, the Zero was designed to operate over long distances to bring the fight to the enemy. Several models of the Spitfire share the aggressive performance of the TIE Interceptor's aggressive performance in speed and maneuverability as well as its limited combat range compared to their counterparts.
IIRC One of the first things Thrawn did, after he reorganized TIE engagement doctrine (increased number of TIEs per enemy thus increasing TIE survivability overall), is made shield generators standard on all Interceptors making the ships almost as durable as an X-Wing as a standard load-out.
It made a lot more sense for his campaign than during the height of the empire due to the fact that most warlords had all the resources & manpower and weren't too willing to give Thrawn much. (If he lost something, he was going to have a hard time replacing it.) And he was operating a more guerilla style of warfare against the new republic. So ships hyperdrive capable are perfect for hit and run attacks and surprise strikes.
I've never thought of the tie intercepter was underrated. I've always though it was good it's just too frail for my taste. Simple as that. A good ship just not my thing.
Plus the intercepter is not a ship just anyone can use and use well. So having ships like x-wings mixed in I think is fine.
Shouldn’t the TIE Interceptor be faster than an A-Wing?
There’s that scene in Starfighters of Adumar where General Fenir’s TIE rockets up into orbit faster than any other ship on the planet, but maybe there weren’t any A-Wings.
The role of an interceptor is to be able to catch bombers and gun them down, so in theory it just has to be fast enough to do the job. In practice, though, the fact that the TIE Interceptor was slated to replace the original TIE means that it would also have to be able to handle fighters and other interceptors. My guess is that it trades some straight-line speed for superior maneuverability while still being able to fill its interceptor role.
Give me a Chiss Claw-craft ALL DAY!!!
The Tie Interceptor has always been my favorite Starfighter in the original trilogy. It's a shame there hasn't been a Lego set of it in years, it's the one I've wanted forever.
The Tie Interceptor has been my favorite starfighter ever since Tie Fighter on the PC.
"Gamma One is the Emperor's stool pigeon!" (Loved that mission)
There's one thing I feel is often overlooked when talking about shields on spacecraft: they are not there just to protect you from being shoot at. Actually, I wouldn't even call it their most important job - they are there to give you protection from radiation.
I know, Star Wars is a fictional universe, but I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in some old guidebooks, and it makes a lot of sense. Space is full of stuff emitting radiation that depending on its type can be harmless, potentially dangerous in a long term or just directly fatal. Shields offer you protection from termal radiation when you fly near a star, they stop gamma rays from a sun going nova and they protect the electronics of your craft from all sorts of electromagnetic interference. I feel like any spaceship without shields would need excessive amounts of maintenance with its electronic systems, would make its crew much more likely to die of cancer and would be much less durable than the same craft with shields due to mechanical stress caused by sudden heating and cooling of its haul in response of radiation from nearby suns.
Good memory. The reason that Naboo ships have a traditional Chrome exterior harkens back to the time before reliable shielding was developed, and they needed some way to not give their pilots and crew cancer from stellar radiation; at least, this was the reason acknowledged in Legends.
The TIE Interceptor has always been one of my favorite star fighter designs in any scifi universe. It just has one of the most intimidating profiles ever, it's such a shame that it doesn't get nearly enough screen time.
Top 3 TIE ships
1.TIE Hunter
2.TIE Defender
3.TIE Phantom
Poet Scotty yes tie hunter
Nice seeing you giving the TIE Interceptor some respect. It really is underrated.
I think that having hyperdrives on them after Endor would have been good as the Empire was now on the back foot, but that would have increased the cost.
How can you not love the fighters of our beloved imperial navy 🤩