Relationship Scientist REVEALS 3 CLEAR SIGNS He'll CHEAT (Don’t Miss THIS RED FLAG!) | Macken Murphy

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    Today we welcome the inspiring Macken Murphy. Macken isn't just a behavior scientist; he's a master at decoding the little things we do and say that reveal a lot about our relationships and what we're really looking for in love and life. Whether you're single, dating, or just love understanding more about the people around you, Macken's insights are going to open your eyes to the complex world of human attraction.
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    0:00 Intro
    00:04:03 - Men Cheat More Than Women
    00:07:48 - The Benefits and Reasons for Infidelity
    00:11:33 - Motives for Women to Cheat
    00:15:09 - Repercussions of Non-Monogamous Relationships
    00:19:02 - Undermining Society with Unemployment and Disruptions
    00:22:52 - Red Flags and Infidelity
    00:26:30 - Body Count and Promiscuity Stigma
    00:30:30 - Women's Perspectives on Sexuality and Jealousy
    00:34:07 - Overcoming Jealousy in Relationships
    00:38:07 - Eliminating Jealousy in Relationships
    00:42:01 - Symptoms of Romantic Love and Relationship Survival After Infidelity
    00:45:53 - The Mating Crisis and Risk Reduction
    00:49:48 - Extra Pair Copulation in Socially Monogamous Species
    00:53:26 - Understanding the Impact of Cheating on Relationships
    00:57:09 - Attracting infidelity and bad pickers
    01:00:50 - Understanding Narcissism and Improving Relationships
    01:04:29 - The Power of Compliments in Relationships
    01:08:08 - The Downside of Being Extremely Physically Attractive
    01:12:05 - The Benefits and Costs of Dating Someone Above Your League
    01:16:13 - The Experience of Eating an Apple
    01:19:51 - Improving Relationships and Sexual Satisfaction
    01:23:42 - Living in Accordance with Your Values
    01:27:53 - Embracing and Trusting the Process
    #greatness #inspiration #motivation

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  • @lewishowes
    @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +317

    Thanks to Macken for sharing his expertise with us! Leave a “YES” if you enjoyed this and share the biggest moment for you. And make sure to subscribe to never miss out on inspiring content like this again UA-cam.com/lewishowes

    • @elizabethabbruzzese
      @elizabethabbruzzese 2 місяці тому +24

      Thank you for this interview. As a single mom with two little ones I was just curious to know if you could please set up an interview for single moms and how they can go about finding a future husband. How to navigate through the dating life to find a husband. What qualities to look for and any other information that would be useful.

    • @OnyejinakaChisom
      @OnyejinakaChisom 2 місяці тому +9

      I love your vast knowledge ❤ thank you sir for this

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +8

      So glad you enjoy the channel! Thanks for being here!

    • @FoxcHoney
      @FoxcHoney 2 місяці тому +4

      🎉YES!!❤😊

    • @FoxcHoney
      @FoxcHoney 2 місяці тому +16

      The biggest moment for me was when the subject of trauma from betrayal came up.

  • @MayaChadalavada-nz7qg
    @MayaChadalavada-nz7qg Місяць тому +367

    I did not cheat on my ex who cheated on me. Instead I filed for divorce and he was surprised 🤣. Bye bye ! Now he can cheat freely.... It has been the best decision of my life to divorce him.

    • @valeriajakab8112
      @valeriajakab8112 Місяць тому +17

      I did the same.

    • @EmilceMaldonadoPaul
      @EmilceMaldonadoPaul Місяць тому +20

      I did the same.....freedom

    • @elizabeetle13
      @elizabeetle13 Місяць тому +22

      You did him a favor! When I got divorced I told my ex now he could be as lazy and promiscuous as he wanted.

    • @lucid_747
      @lucid_747 23 дні тому +6

      You took the High Road 🙌🏼

    • @Portia620
      @Portia620 22 дні тому +8

      😂😂 YES! Set them free!!! 😂😂

  • @TheKandidKate
    @TheKandidKate Місяць тому +955

    I asked a very beautiful woman what it was like to be so beautiful. She said it was lonely because people were afraid to approach her to talk with her.

    • @heide-raquelfuss5580
      @heide-raquelfuss5580 Місяць тому +43

      At the same time...she does not get harrased so much, like other women experience.
      It saves her horrible stress, abuse...

    • @dot510
      @dot510 Місяць тому +66

      @@heide-raquelfuss5580 But you also get dismissed a lot, passive agression etc. I get you though

    • @colettejaques2559
      @colettejaques2559 Місяць тому +61

      Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.................

    • @akrossmann1631
      @akrossmann1631 Місяць тому +77

      What is really a challenge is being beautiful. tall, and smart!
      Just love life, it is purely a miracle you are alive!

    • @Lightenupwithlaura
      @Lightenupwithlaura Місяць тому +25

      Can relate… :/

  • @ShivaLadiva-sb9nw
    @ShivaLadiva-sb9nw Місяць тому +405

    For me a major causevof cheating is lack of respect and communication cause being dishonest is being disrespectful to another person. Cheaters are dishonest people.period.

  • @simoneelhallak4433
    @simoneelhallak4433 Місяць тому +249

    “Don’t expect loyalty when you don’t offer honesty “

    • @bookofbrah
      @bookofbrah 26 днів тому +4

      That hits hard!

    • @snblee
      @snblee 21 день тому +3

      “If this person doesn’t want to be with me than what’s the point…”

    • @snblee
      @snblee 21 день тому +8

      “If this person doesn’t want to be with me than what’s the point…”
      “It would be the greatest gift to let me go if you don’t want to be with me.”

    • @snblee
      @snblee 21 день тому +12

      I’m at 30yrs, finally leaving a repeat cheater. 😢

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  21 день тому +6

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @murphymacken
    @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +953

    Thank you so much for having me on Lewis! I really enjoyed the conversation.

    • @deeandleaann
      @deeandleaann 2 місяці тому +31

      Your insight and research are amazing and helpful. Thank you for helping me understand human behavior better. 😊

    • @patrick.h11t
      @patrick.h11t 2 місяці тому +15

      Thank you for the information you've shared. Im looking forward to seeing more interviews of you.

    • @melindacollins3483
      @melindacollins3483 2 місяці тому +28

      I like how you gave more insight to the stress that is caused after being cheated on it makes so much more sense to call it post infidelity stress disorder and it has been so hard to date and fully trust someone new after being cheated on

    • @liznewark
      @liznewark 2 місяці тому +18

      Thank you for pointing out that in order to discuss a topic you need to do substantial (over a year) of academic research

    • @elsbells.
      @elsbells. 2 місяці тому +11

      Well done Macken. Very interesting as always.

  • @JanetMacCallum
    @JanetMacCallum Місяць тому +206

    I'm pretty sure I had PTSD (or PISD) form a major betrayal from a significant other. As much as I have sought therapy and tried to get over my trust issues it has impacted me long term. People need to think twice about leading a double life and betraying their partners.

    • @elizabeetle13
      @elizabeetle13 Місяць тому +22

      Same here. I had my heart and soul broken to pieces when I was 23 and never fully recovered. But, it hardened me in a positive way. I never got hurt again.

    • @JanetMacCallum
      @JanetMacCallum 28 днів тому +3

      @@elizabeetle13 that's a shame it happened to you so young :(

    • @amadeagottlieb
      @amadeagottlieb 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@elizabeetle13 Never say never!

    • @elizabeetle13
      @elizabeetle13 22 дні тому +4

      @@amadeagottlieb NEVER. And you can bet your life on that.

    • @Portia620
      @Portia620 22 дні тому +1

      I was PISD too but now laughing! big Big Mistake!

  • @lori-annefay4138
    @lori-annefay4138 Місяць тому +48

    I think "cheating" often comes down to opportunity. Men expect free time at the end of a workday or week. Women with kids and a home to look after simply do not have the same time or energy.

  • @monaissakarim7569
    @monaissakarim7569 2 місяці тому +479

    What i really really appreciate that the speaker is fair and says it when he its not his area of expertise. He doesnt pretend that he "knows" everything and has the answer's to everything.

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +13

      Thank you :)

    • @karolinaks4192
      @karolinaks4192 2 місяці тому +14

      Yes. It’s refreshing that an academic on a popular podcast acknowledges what is not his area of expertise . It makes him much more more credible.

    • @1764s1985
      @1764s1985 2 місяці тому

      @@murphymacken😢😢

    • @andreavanda5402
      @andreavanda5402 2 місяці тому +3

      But there's way too much that he's not an "expert" in. I mean, these questions are all related to his area of study. Maybe he should familiarize himself with more.

    • @melgm002
      @melgm002 Місяць тому +1

      Why not get someone who is an expert then

  • @a.d.2206
    @a.d.2206 Місяць тому +55

    This man is the perfect mix of confidence and humility

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому +4

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @draandreadiaz6055
    @draandreadiaz6055 2 місяці тому +431

    He’s EXTREMELY careful with his opinions. LOVE IT ❤

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +8

      I'm glad!!

    • @gigi9301
      @gigi9301 2 місяці тому +5

      Wishy Washy Click Bait Blah

    • @kyliejackson-bell810
      @kyliejackson-bell810 2 місяці тому +16

      Give him 10 years and he’ll say it how it is 😂 beautiful soul though

    • @tuchus8781
      @tuchus8781 2 місяці тому +17

      So many woke ready to attack. He's smart

    • @mezlandia
      @mezlandia 2 місяці тому

      @@gigi9301life isn’t a sure thing

  • @SummerSnow716
    @SummerSnow716 Місяць тому +213

    Jealousy is not totally about insecurity; it is about the trust and communication created between the partners. If your partner doesn't help provide psychological safety, then jealousy is more pronounced. Prolonged jealousy tells you that something is wrong.

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому +13

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts!! 🧡

    • @camillemanly3800
      @camillemanly3800 Місяць тому +19

      THIS. If there’s communication and both let it be known they love and desire their partner, then there won’t be jealousy.

    • @jesssc402
      @jesssc402 Місяць тому +8

      Lack of those things creates insecurity though

    • @sophine7189
      @sophine7189 Місяць тому +7

      ​@jesssc402 EXACTLY! For the life of me I don't understand why people can't see or understand it goes right back to insecurities. Whenever you feel insecure in your relationship because of a lack of trust and communication, it causes you to feel insecure about yourself and your decision of being in this stagnant relationship. It's quite simple to understand. I'm starting to believe the problem is that people don't understand what insecure means.

    • @DeniseDawson-dl9wc
      @DeniseDawson-dl9wc Місяць тому +3

      How true

  • @Jenergy84
    @Jenergy84 2 місяці тому +434

    Ok I listened so you guys can know...
    1. Family History
    2. Sexual inclinations ( whether you care if your in love or not with your partner you sleep with)
    3. Body Count/ verse Age

    • @elisachang7393
      @elisachang7393 2 місяці тому +11

      Where does he list the three?

    • @Smartartin
      @Smartartin 2 місяці тому +33

      Doesn’t, I had a struggle trying to sum up what was said..

    • @marinalovric2700
      @marinalovric2700 2 місяці тому +5

      How age has influence?

    • @cinderling5472
      @cinderling5472 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@@dianevadino Oh :/
      Thank you very much for your effort ❤

    • @mariabatubara6494
      @mariabatubara6494 2 місяці тому +3

      Thanks! ❤❤❤

  • @stampandscrap7494
    @stampandscrap7494 Місяць тому +72

    People arn't attraced to narcissism. They are attracted to people who appear confident. Unfortunatly narcisists look very confident.

    • @szszszsz95395
      @szszszsz95395 10 днів тому +2

      Only on the surface. Look deeper.

    • @Lemur2008
      @Lemur2008 3 дні тому

      Yet they are the most insecure, jealous, and paranoid people ever.

  • @etaokha4164
    @etaokha4164 Місяць тому +62

    He cheated on me at 6 months pregnant and cheated on me again on my birthday which was the final discard. Their Egos constantly need that Fix and when they dont get it, they go somewhere else. Period!

    • @di_decaire
      @di_decaire 23 дні тому +4

      They seem to be awful when you deserve more happiness.

    • @senyakome
      @senyakome 21 день тому +4

      I hope you are going well! Sending you and your baby a virtual hug. 🤍

  • @user-vi3re9wr3o
    @user-vi3re9wr3o 2 місяці тому +284

    To sin or not to sin… so many people have killed their conscience

    • @ladyvirgo9514
      @ladyvirgo9514 Місяць тому +5

      💯

    • @TonganJedi
      @TonganJedi Місяць тому +4

      Sin is a religious concept that not everyone buys into. I certainly don't.

    • @ladyvirgo9514
      @ladyvirgo9514 Місяць тому +4

      @TonganJedi "Sin" is to error. We all do that but I agree on the Religions twisting it.

    • @ImKar333
      @ImKar333 Місяць тому +10

      ​​@@TonganJediWell, we all usually know what we are about to do is wrong or right, right? You don't have to believe in sin, to be a decent human being. You just have to be humane.

    • @melissamilam-hw9dt
      @melissamilam-hw9dt Місяць тому +2

      The idea of Sin is a fantasy. You're just an animal.

  • @cece9770
    @cece9770 2 місяці тому +337

    Being more physically attractive means fewer people have any real desire to understand you as a person. There are LOTS of disadvantages actually. Especially amongst women, there tends to be more jealousy and envy leading to unwarranted hurtful behavior, ostracizing, bullying…
    Being more physically attractive means that you end up attracting more shallow people, which results in fewer meaningful relationships, which leads to more loneliness and depression. Men (and women) tend to assume that a beautiful person is not going to be loyal or faithful BECAUSE they assume you can’t be happy with your meal and want to sample the entire menu.
    Being beautiful means you are targeted more as an object to be conquered, and so we tend to be on the receiving end of more lies and deception because we’re viewed as merely a prize to be won.
    Beauty is and always will be a curse as far as I’m concerned.
    Oh and the backlash I assume is coming for first insinuating that I might believe myself to be beautiful, and then having the gall to speak negatively about the perceived advantage. How dare I? People will say it’s all for attention. The reality is that I’m lonely and depressed because no one has ever loved me for my personality. If I had a nickel for the number of times I’ve had someone tell me that they aren’t in love with me, but in love with the IDEA of being with me…

    • @aubz81
      @aubz81 2 місяці тому +45

      I too would have a pile of nickels. I agree, men love the IDEA of being with me, but once they get to know me... they're out. I'm 'too real', apparently. Whatever, I'll be too real and enjoy my life! (And those proverbial nickels!)

    • @franklydarling....7244
      @franklydarling....7244 2 місяці тому +15

      Counting even your assumptions that a person would say this to you because a majority of people DO NOT speak this way.......
      If you had a nickel for each time a person told you they were "in love with the idea of being with you," you would certainly have less than $20.
      $20 would equate to 400 people......
      Let's get real.

    • @cece9770
      @cece9770 2 місяці тому +44

      @@aubz81 yep! I suspect it’s because they tend to put us on pedestals. An ideal they’ve built in their minds, and then when they realize we’re just regular people they are disappointed.

    • @cece9770
      @cece9770 2 місяці тому +21

      @@franklydarling....7244 lol it’s an expression. 🙄

    • @franklydarling....7244
      @franklydarling....7244 2 місяці тому +9

      @@cece9770 I was trying to be kind.
      After reading your "thesis" about how hard it is for you to be so attractive and viewing your profile picture, there are so many things I could make commentary on....but I digress.
      My entire point would be: "Get real."
      As in actual reality.
      Ma'am, you're average at best. And that is no insult. With all sincerity, I would consider it a blessing. ❤️🤗

  • @rosebooth9263
    @rosebooth9263 2 місяці тому +121

    What an impressive gentleman. As a 28 year old, witnessing the level of maturity and humbleness that he possesses was refreshing. In my opinion, the smartest person in the room tends to be the person who acknowledges that they do not know everything. Excellent podcast all around. Great job Macken & Lewis!

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +6

      🙌

    • @jinhub2175
      @jinhub2175 Місяць тому +1

      Exactly

    • @suzanneemerson2625
      @suzanneemerson2625 Місяць тому

      But what’s up with the hair hat? Hmmmm…..

    • @lindan8729
      @lindan8729 11 днів тому

      @Rose: In my opinion, he’s too young to know what he’s talking about and therefore said nothing concrete.

  • @AniaBumba
    @AniaBumba 2 місяці тому +270

    What an emotionally mature young man! Very admirable.

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +11

      👍

    • @sabinekoch3448
      @sabinekoch3448 2 місяці тому

      Real scientific thinking- no “woke” nonsense.

    • @99balloons71
      @99balloons71 Місяць тому +2

      From what I've seen, A male having an affair is as common as weeds.

    • @faithrobin6124
      @faithrobin6124 Місяць тому +2

      @@99balloons71what do you mean?

    • @DjMicr0dot
      @DjMicr0dot Місяць тому +7

      @@99balloons71 dear Lord where do you live lol I've never met a young man like that in Austin Texas anywhere so please explain

  • @B.I.D_Group
    @B.I.D_Group Місяць тому +19

    Never get into a relationship with someone that is insecure - this goes for in business relationships as well

  • @BunnyRabit-yo3lx
    @BunnyRabit-yo3lx Місяць тому +50

    Jealousy is a natural negative emotion and I believe, like anxiety, is a type of evolutionary warning signal to the body. It's only toxic if it goes unchecked.

  • @stariadreamtea
    @stariadreamtea Місяць тому +68

    Watched the entire thing. He's so engrossing and his voice + body language is hypnotic. He's quite humble and mature. Wonderful.

  • @MaxsMom-bv6hf
    @MaxsMom-bv6hf 2 місяці тому +216

    Cheating is a stroke for the ego. Nothing more, nothing less!

    • @SM-qb7ce
      @SM-qb7ce 2 місяці тому +7

      @MaxsMom-bv6hf YESSS I AGREE!!! 💯%

    • @bonezbaaaby
      @bonezbaaaby 2 місяці тому +10

      BUT, it helps to know the potential underlying biological temptations so we can become aware and avoid them

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 Місяць тому +16

      So that's another way of saying it's done by those lacking self esteem? I'm guessing yes.

    • @sherralieberry-majeski5972
      @sherralieberry-majeski5972 Місяць тому +6

      For men.

    • @sherriflemming3218
      @sherriflemming3218 Місяць тому

      I've Scanned 250,000 Brains This Is Really How Men Think and Lisa Biyeu podcast
      Accurate study. ( Testosterone- impulse control)
      Getting The Love You Want by Harville Hendrix IMAGO
      Are You The One For Me? by Barbara DeAngelis
      Safe People by Henry Cloud
      The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker

  • @StrongSingleMom
    @StrongSingleMom Місяць тому +46

    When he said boyfriends do lots of nice things for you I couldn’t help but laugh

  • @porschajohnson1890
    @porschajohnson1890 Місяць тому +26

    Interviewer Question: Why not just break up before cheating? Interviewee's Response: "Why would you quit your job before securing another one?" That was such a good parallel! It's called Mate Switching. I don't agree with anyone cheating, but the response sure does put things into perspective for those of us who have asked the why not just break up question!

    • @healthadvisor464
      @healthadvisor464 29 днів тому +11

      When someone "secures" the next person before leaving the relationshiT, you are dealing with a narcissist. Primarily a covert. The worst, and most deceitful type of thing to have a connection with.

    • @chrissemenko628
      @chrissemenko628 25 днів тому

      ​@@healthadvisor464Keeping a backup goalie

    • @junejourney1051
      @junejourney1051 6 днів тому +3

      Well you are dealing with a soul heart and mind which your job doesn’t have any of this!! Finding another person while you are in relationship is completely different thing than job… this means you are seeing human as objects nothing more!

    • @simoneelhallak4433
      @simoneelhallak4433 5 днів тому +1

      I learned in psychology that men generally are inclined to appreciate novelty “things that are new”;
      as opposed to women: the data suggests that women are attracted to partners who provide them with feelings of security.

  • @malaykaayyaz696
    @malaykaayyaz696 17 днів тому +3

    I like that he's not sounding like an EXPERT but as a scientist.

  • @mlreed8929
    @mlreed8929 Місяць тому +88

    I know a guy who is polyamorous. He loves having relationships with several women, and he admitted he loves "a good catfight!" So he likes it when women are fighting over him, trying to compete for him. He likes seeing the jealousy. And he was full of secrets. He kept so much of himself private, so you would never get 100% of him. That was a huge red flag to me. I feel our society today has learned all this, and that is why monogamy is much better... people are loyal to one another, you share more of yourself with each other, and there is trust. Trust is the foundation of a good relationship. This builds true love and happiness. Sneaking around behind someone's back and lying to them leads to a lack of trust and, therefore, a lack of beautiful happiness. I feel that there are great blessings for those who are in a loyal, committed relationship. I'm reminded of one of the 10 Commandments - Thou shalt not commit adultery.

    • @tlafleur8433
      @tlafleur8433 Місяць тому +2

      These people here and so many like them do not even consider the 10 commandments.

    • @tealkerberus748
      @tealkerberus748 Місяць тому +5

      That's not polyamory, that's a mess. Real polyamory means communication, respect, consent, and supporting each other - not creating jealousy and conflicts.

    • @tealkerberus748
      @tealkerberus748 Місяць тому +3

      @@tlafleur8433 The ten commandments were written for a community where every man who could afford to support a second wife was expected to have one. It's not adultery to have sex with your spouse, no matter how many spouses the law allows you to have.

    • @Oreo-qn3lk
      @Oreo-qn3lk Місяць тому +9

      Sounds like the guy you were talking about was grandiose narcissist. ❤️💜

    • @JillBausch
      @JillBausch Місяць тому

      That man is most likely a narcissist. Run away fast. They are dangerous, with the mentality of a cruel child.

  • @SanctuaryGoodLife
    @SanctuaryGoodLife 2 місяці тому +83

    I wish being a good parent and Uncle, Aunt, Cousin, sibling, friend, and Neighbor were still important for status in Western culture.

    • @janedoe1498
      @janedoe1498 Місяць тому +1

      Sociologically and psychologically (the fruit) development of the human nature moved the western concept which is good and bad yet harder but was meant... sadly

    • @celestialstar8115
      @celestialstar8115 Місяць тому +1

      This doesn’t happen in east either. Hasn’t happened in centuries

    • @Southernly
      @Southernly Місяць тому +1

      Me too 😞

  • @tomigirl30
    @tomigirl30 2 місяці тому +116

    11:06 this was me. After catching my partner cheat on me 3 times the last one lasting for 2.5 years I cheated. I planned it and it was a way for me to take some control back. I then worked on financially separating our house, got plans in order then ended things. Took me over a year, but never looked back.

    • @rhodagunn5075
      @rhodagunn5075 Місяць тому +12

      Me too. When I was 24 and lived with my partner I came home and caught him in bed with someone else. It broke me. Not out of revenge, but out of desperation to try and somehow reser the balance, and like you said take control back- I thought maybe if I did it too it might be something I could then accept and move on from that he broke my trust and heart. Of course it did not work, and nothing felt repaired or better afterwards. Seems obvious now it wouldn't have, but young love and young heartbreak you're just grasping at straws sometimes. I've never cheated since and I know I won't again. Doing it back can never repair the betrayal or bring any kind of closer or healing. Just prolongs the pain I think.

    • @junejourney1051
      @junejourney1051 6 днів тому

      Doing same sin only you end up losing respect for yourself… don’t let their behaviors change who you are

  • @andreiadetavora8471
    @andreiadetavora8471 2 місяці тому +107

    I'm a clinical psychologist (from Portugal). What a fascinating topic!! Great guest. Bright, intellectually honest and eloquent.

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +12

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @donnaknudson7296
    @donnaknudson7296 2 місяці тому +75

    What really is disappointing and perplexing is that one of the most spiritually and important things in life- love- depends so much on shallow things, like physical attractiveness and status. It makes no sense and I guess it's just one of the maddening things about this world. What he says about attractiveness and how people perceive and value you depends so much on that is true. I know because I have experienced both worlds. I'm a middle aged woman who used to be pretty. The thing is that I didn't even know I was pretty and frankly didn't care. But when I became middle aged I noticed major differences in the way I was regarded and perceived. This whole time when I was younger I just thought people were the way they were because they really liked who I was as a person. But I found that is not so and finding that out cuts deep.

    • @andreavanda5402
      @andreavanda5402 2 місяці тому +26

      Ditto! It's quite shocking to realize at an older age how superficial most people are.

    • @donventura2116
      @donventura2116 Місяць тому +13

      Love is often shallow because at worst we are just animals and at best we may have the excuse that we are imperfect beings that can not observe our own divine nature and respect others for who they are and not what we see.

    • @user-yq4xm2cd7b
      @user-yq4xm2cd7b Місяць тому +9

      Yep I gave almost the same reply to someone else before this. I was hot & sexy & didn't know it, & they say I was beautiful, I didn't know it. They just wanted what they could get.

    • @coolbreeze5683
      @coolbreeze5683 Місяць тому +9

      Everyone inevitably figures this out at some point in their lives and the ones who do the judging are eventually the ones who will be judged (that includes their own self-judgement). That's how karma works in life.
      I've never been beautiful or sought after so I've always seen the true nature of society. I'm in my late 40s and I'm happier now than I was when I was younger. I don't really care about people's opinions of me and I'm used to cultivating joy within myself. I have good, authentic close friends and family.
      I just go about my day with gratitude for what I have and leave other people to their own since their karma is none of my business

    • @mizum3458
      @mizum3458 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@donventura2116I dont really understand what you said, but I easily often find a lot of things to admire about almost everyone I've met even if they're unattractive to me. Even some feminists.... Because some of them have some bits of good somewhere inside of them, like understanding how to use devices and software's I can't even grasp the knowledge of although most of them can be annoying when they get all political and overly social justice on a lot of things double standard

  • @nvk743
    @nvk743 Місяць тому +16

    “The data couldn’t be further from my heart” damn mans got his life in order

  • @colormecrazywithkim5837
    @colormecrazywithkim5837 2 місяці тому +68

    I agree about jealousy.....it's natural. If there is excessive jealousy, there is a reason why. You've had bad experiences in the past, or the person may be trying to get you jealous. My personal feelings.

    • @artandscience1
      @artandscience1 Місяць тому +1

      Often there's no reason why, except a man's territorialism.

  • @hhlagen
    @hhlagen 21 день тому +8

    Sooner or later the price is paid for infidelity. A person may not see it coming but it does and when it happens the consequences are indescribabley painful.

  • @kyliejackson-bell810
    @kyliejackson-bell810 2 місяці тому +50

    I truly think it’s a combination of age and pain… thank you for sharing. I used to feel intense jealousy (for good reason, not all the time) but if I’d walked away I would’ve saved myself myself from heartbreak. I don’t regret it, but it’s hard to not wonder how different life would have been. My second relationship, he cheated it hurt but I was okay, honestly he did me a favour, unfortunately he was also horrible and scary and it did take me several years to safely get away but now I have built a wonderful life that I love. I have a great relationship and I’ve found the love of my life, I’ve allowed myself to be loved which is truly amazing. At 41 I think the key to my happiness is not being dependent. I would be heartbroken if my man cheated but I would be okay… there is power and freedom in that, I’ve never felt that way

    • @miss_whipps
      @miss_whipps Місяць тому +4

      You're inspiring. I just experienced the heartbreak of being cheated on for the first time, and it was within a VERY codependent relationship. I can see how the impact would have been different (no less painful, but less devastating and injurious to my self esteem) if I had been more self sufficient, financially, emotionally, socially, etc. I hope to securely establish myself and become more whole before I consider a new relationship. Happy for you, I respect and admire your insight!❤

    • @AlexiaSummerPrather-xr4tm
      @AlexiaSummerPrather-xr4tm 23 дні тому

      1o​@@miss_whipps

  • @jacqueinebuss5514
    @jacqueinebuss5514 Місяць тому +20

    A little jealousy is something I think you have no matter what when you care about the other person.

    • @Zazezoo
      @Zazezoo 28 днів тому

      Men also naturally have that protected jealousy. It’s only when it’s excessive that’s when it becomes concerning and unhealthy!

  • @_jules86
    @_jules86 2 місяці тому +95

    Macken Murphy.. keep doing what you’re doing. What a fascinating human!

  • @bethb.6813
    @bethb.6813 2 місяці тому +45

    Yes. I am divorced and haven't dated for a quarter century, but am thinking about trying again. I appreciate the insights that Dr. Machen Murphy shared from the data and that he was humble in sharing this information, properly limiting it to what he knew from his data or saying where else the information came from. Despite his youth, we can all learn a thing or two about both science and character from Dr. Machen Murphy.

    • @elizabeetle13
      @elizabeetle13 Місяць тому +1

      Oh dear, why would you want to break your string? I haven't had a man in 18 years and I cannot imagine trying again.

  • @camillegallagher7828
    @camillegallagher7828 2 місяці тому +52

    "1)In terms of how you behave, live in accordance with your values as opposed to the vicissitudes of your base emotions and chance thoughts.
    2) Think more about cultivating your obituary virtues as opposed to your resume virtues.
    3)The person you pick is the most important choice you make so be careful with that and think of it as a skill you want to be excellent at in maintaining that."

  • @alejandradaly9456
    @alejandradaly9456 27 днів тому +3

    "I'm not committed emotionally to any ideas .." Crucial !

  • @dr.florence
    @dr.florence 2 місяці тому +45

    I loved this! As a fellow researcher, though in the humanities, I LOVES him citing studies and his general honesty , carefulness and humility. Soooo different from those self-styled arrogant coaches on healing podcasts like this.

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +2

      Thank you for the kind words

  • @TheTialalande
    @TheTialalande 2 місяці тому +23

    The piece on creating an environment that would make somebody want to be around and not feel like They're in a cage. I totally get that. It takes a lot of self-reflection to really get there.

  • @Priyanka_Bagh
    @Priyanka_Bagh 2 місяці тому +19

    Can’t get over how well you communicate Macken!

  • @melissaschenk2649
    @melissaschenk2649 Місяць тому +8

    I learned the hard way that marriage, (the monogamous union of man and woman for life) is the most sacred thing on the face of this earth and better stated the most sacred thing in the universe. We are horrible at it and most of the world's problems can be traced back to sexual infidelity. Those people who mate with one person for life have a rare and beautiful gifts few of us find. When we see it, it glows with beauty and reminds the rest of us how short we all came. We skirt around sexual restraint and fidelity because we can't live up to the impossible standard. But we deny not only ourselves but future generations the privilege of having it in doing so. Having only one partner that you mate with for life, forsaking all others, is of such high value we don't even strive for it or when it is mentioned roll our eyes in disbelief. It is hard work, too hard for this culture and we have paid a very dear price for that. Great video. I liked it a lot.

  • @josusa1647
    @josusa1647 Місяць тому +26

    Btw…reason it’s so depressing is because I have a very attractive husband that I love very much and the competition is exhausting

    • @jarkachalmovianska7812
      @jarkachalmovianska7812 Місяць тому +10

      He would not have married you if he would not find you attractive. Chill.

    • @Zazezoo
      @Zazezoo 28 днів тому +3

      @@jarkachalmovianska7812Exactly! Plus not all women would agree that he’s very attractive 😅

    • @pcharm3711
      @pcharm3711 17 днів тому

      Oh god hopefully he does make you feel like you're competing for the place in his life? 😢

  • @mickie1154
    @mickie1154 Місяць тому +7

    I really learned SO much from this! Which led me to an awakening of a huge need for an answer to this: I must to change me. I must change from being drawn to narcissists. How can a person do this? Tell me. I will do it immediately.

    • @Mercermm
      @Mercermm Місяць тому +2

      Get more self secure and sure of yourself. Narcissist love to be able to control you. Good luck.

  • @googlespyfranchise9089
    @googlespyfranchise9089 2 місяці тому +21

    Wow, such humility, compassion and thoughtfulness. Especially moved by his empathy for the sufferers of infidelity.
    Such a dude.. seems to have an absence of grandiosity, which is refreshing given its prevalence in a lot of online talkers.
    Mind you.. if I like someone then that’s probably a warning sign.. I thought Huberman was great, my ‘picker’ is broken. In fact the police could probably use me as a psychopath detector.. whoever I like- that’s the person with the bodies in the basement 😅 (yes I am remaining single whilst I sort it out ha).

    • @shabarney
      @shabarney 2 місяці тому +1

      Me too such a shame!

  • @shellshelly5552
    @shellshelly5552 2 місяці тому +65

    Lewis….The lack of jealousy means YOU accepted yourself fully. Self worth, confidence leaves no room for jealousy.

    • @mrs.c5471
      @mrs.c5471 Місяць тому +17

      I was never jealous of my husband, UNTIL he destroyed my world, my trust, my faith. I really don’t believe even now I’m “jealous” rather I’m more “aware” and listen to my gut.

    • @johnnydi2231
      @johnnydi2231 Місяць тому +3

      I completely lack this quality.... And am currently going through the worst pain of my entire life because of it. And I have no idea how to deal with it, or how to completely rewire myself atp?!
      I am in constant pain and can't stop it. So I'm just screwed. And it hurts in an almost inexplicable way! 💔

    • @MS-sr6mj
      @MS-sr6mj Місяць тому +1

      Not in my experience. I know someone who is very insecure, but he is never jealous.

  • @cm4644
    @cm4644 2 місяці тому +11

    Mate poaching, 100% success! He would not even make contact if he didn't already decide when saying 'Hi"

  • @user-bi4hf6vq1d
    @user-bi4hf6vq1d 2 місяці тому +53

    Excellent interview and information. I appreciate that he gives credit to others who have done the studies and research! Giving credit where credit is due and admitting when he may not have the stats or answers. Very refreshing! Mac is very intelligent and knowledgeable as well as Wise for the number of years he has walked this path...

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +5

      Cheers!!

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +6

      Thank you for taking the time out of your day to check out the interview! So glad you enjoyed it🧡

  • @polkadolt
    @polkadolt Місяць тому +11

    Don’t confuse LIMERENCE for LOVE!

  • @B3ck05
    @B3ck05 23 дні тому +5

    You can get ptsd from non physical trauma such as emotional abuse. Other than that, fantastic interview.

  • @tracymullane8818
    @tracymullane8818 Місяць тому +4

    Jealousy isn't a bad thing, as the way he's describing it. It's totally dependent on the kind of respect or priority your partner is showing you, in relation to the intimacy you share- whether they are or not- and/or whether or not you have an anxious attachment style. Which is kind of embarrassing- to have an anxious attachment style. Just check in on the relationship with dignity as necessary.
    Being protective of the relationship is healthy and fine.

  • @v9b23j
    @v9b23j 2 місяці тому +35

    Online dating is similar to speed dating in the sense that both men & women have multiple options and choices to make in a brief time frame based on very little information they can garner from each other. Similarly, I think it's fair to assume that both men & women prioritize physical attractiveness over other traits when they engage in online dating apps.

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +5

      Correct, they do!

    • @sherriflemming3218
      @sherriflemming3218 Місяць тому +2

      Online is The Paradox Of Choice - Ted Talk
      Women swipe 5% due to being more discerning - higher mating standards.
      Men swipe 60% to create more options.

    • @zenguro
      @zenguro 20 днів тому

      What else is there to do online anyways? It's shitty superficial, and all those 7s that might be super into you and hot in bed, you don't even gives those a chance.
      Also, 50% of women use online dating apps for a purpose other than dating or finding a mate. They just abuse it as a attention magnet. And are content with it.

  • @VanessaDiazNYC
    @VanessaDiazNYC 2 місяці тому +8

    Fantastic podcast! Loved the acknowledgment at the end Lewis! 😊

  • @divine.healing
    @divine.healing 2 місяці тому +25

    At 39 I couldn't agree more about Lewis' jealousy insight 🔥🔥🔥

  • @stavokg
    @stavokg 2 місяці тому +10

    What a wonderfully kind guest! Such interesting and helpful information! Thank you.

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @alexwagnerautorin
    @alexwagnerautorin 2 місяці тому +23

    your choice of guests is just fantastic! thank you so much

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +1

      You're welcome, your support means a lot!

  • @thepowerofyourtrueself4794
    @thepowerofyourtrueself4794 20 днів тому +1

    What a humbled man Macken is, very refreshing, thank you Lewis for bringing this man into your show, its a tremendous asset for all of us to get such insights into complexities of human behaviors and relationships.

  • @zaynaa4377
    @zaynaa4377 2 місяці тому +19

    I love when 😂 macken takes off his specs when talking about something serious

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +5

      for emphasis!

    • @andreiadetavora8471
      @andreiadetavora8471 2 місяці тому +1

      @@murphymacken 😅🤣 You're terrific!

    • @99balloons71
      @99balloons71 Місяць тому

      That is observant of you. Its good you enoyed from different perspectives. I love it that he has researched such important topics and sharing generously so much of his findings.

  • @brightpage1020
    @brightpage1020 2 місяці тому +23

    Thank you, gentlemen, for this discussion.

  • @morganadavies8319
    @morganadavies8319 Місяць тому +4

    I appreciate Lewis' honesty and self reflection in this session

  • @BREEZYDENVER
    @BREEZYDENVER 2 місяці тому +9

    Thankyou so much this was amazing, this whole production of the video, the editing, the guest, the questions... round of applause

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +1

      Appreciate your support. Thank you for watching! 🧡

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому

      thanks so much :)

  • @karenpeatey6226
    @karenpeatey6226 2 місяці тому +7

    YES YES YES
    Life changing info - brilliant guys Thankyou
    Just on the lying segment I remember an expert commenting - our body can’t lie but our brain can
    That’s why there are always tell tale body language giveaways
    We lie all the time it’s a part of life - we have a dark side that knows we have to mask our darkness
    Sometimes we’re trying to be nice but we just can’t
    Like being in a relationship that we haven’t learned to master or the partner wants a commitment we’re not ready for
    Or in A job we hate
    So in these situations we lie Even to ourselves
    The body will take over - feel sick more often
    Have an affair or self sabotage
    Fascinating topic

  • @mariaclarasoares9648
    @mariaclarasoares9648 2 місяці тому +14

    So, smart and so young!!! Great interview!!!
    Extremely humble ! Nice

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +2

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @idaliahernandez1083
    @idaliahernandez1083 2 місяці тому +19

    I love listening to every statement on this interview. Lewis, i must confessed that ever since I found you i have found great minds as wel;l and I started following them to listen their content. Thank you for always bringing to your platform great minds and sharing with us great information that's to our benefit for growth. Definitely, you are the best out of all these many great minds and I love every time you leave the guest in awe with your questions. They are all on point. Again, THANK YOU! ❤

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much for your kind words 🧡

  • @RavenC1357
    @RavenC1357 Місяць тому +7

    I love this. I wish more men and women liked these kinds of relationship podcasts

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому +2

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @whiplashbeauty
    @whiplashbeauty 2 місяці тому +15

    This has been one of the most fascinating and informative conversations! Great interview Macken & Lewis! Thank you!

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +1

      So glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching🧡

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you!!

  • @ileniaherrera9987
    @ileniaherrera9987 Місяць тому +3

    Just wow! Great interview! Well done young man. Thank you for sharing.

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @sagewaters1185
    @sagewaters1185 Місяць тому +4

    A huge downside of being attractive is that everybody wants a piece of you. Every single person you encounter will do anything they possibly can to get a piece of you in one way or another. So therefore our dissatisfaction doesn't come from having too many options. It comes from every single person that wants to engage with me is a potential serious danger and threat to me in my family. Simply because of what I look like. My dissatisfaction comes from this wonderful person that I thought was going to be. My friend is only here because I look good on their arm or I can get them into the cool places. Some beautiful people are just as beautiful on the inside! That's a ignorant blanket statement to say pretty people have it easier!
    Pretty girls are probably attacked more! Pretty girls have more girls jealous of them.....etc

  • @vauoia6064
    @vauoia6064 16 днів тому

    Thank you for this podcast. Great conversation. Literally ALL of the questions asked are questions that have been living rent free in my mind and I didn’t have a clue where to find decent answers.

  • @ilsevdg1194
    @ilsevdg1194 2 місяці тому +14

    "he can do better".... This conversation is not about love. Its about arranged, negotiated relationships.

    • @terewilliams1555
      @terewilliams1555 Місяць тому +1

      interestingly enough, arranged marriages have the lowest divorce rate. Maybe we can learn something ...

    • @ilsevdg1194
      @ilsevdg1194 Місяць тому

      @@terewilliams1555 Hey there! Thank you for your reply and I respect your opinion! I agree that nothing is black and white. But the superficial considerations as discussed , are only marginally important in the long run. That is my conviction and experience. And, well, the author of the study himself also seems to disagree in real life. Go to 1:14:00. Divorce rates are not just the reflection of the (real) success of the marriages. They're also the reflection of the cultural differences in attitude towards divorce, socioeconomic circumstances etcetera. You could get Lucky in an arranged marriage and naturally evolve to a deeper connection with your partner. But if you follow your heart and intuition from the beginning (which is much wiser than your calculating mind), then your chance of real success, real matrimonial bliss, is bigger, I believe.

  • @BOT-dv9lz
    @BOT-dv9lz Місяць тому +5

    Its two ways to be a father. 1 biological and 2 upbringing wich is the way that are really are important for a human. Its probably not the best to not have both, but having one good father the whole upbringing instead of no one or one bad.

  • @margaretwilliams5398
    @margaretwilliams5398 Місяць тому +4

    Lewis I can relate to what you shared about jealousy and at a certain point I just completely let go and realized you can’t control others.

  • @elisemiddleton2660
    @elisemiddleton2660 Місяць тому

    Yes! This was interesting and informative, it’s a new perspective to consider with a different approach.

  • @kristahackleylmt2064
    @kristahackleylmt2064 2 місяці тому +9

    Ha! All my looks and personality ever did was get me harassed at about every job I've ever had! I've had to leave jobs and States because of abusers and sexual harassment. I'm living life differently now! Whistleblowers RISE UP!

  • @bestestfriend2023
    @bestestfriend2023 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you for bringing Mack on here! Yay! ❤

  • @Alfir33
    @Alfir33 2 місяці тому +10

    This is the most interesting interview. Huge respect. So bright and inspiring!

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much for your feedback 🙂

  • @ktmaree
    @ktmaree 2 місяці тому +4

    Amazing video, I absolutely loved this!

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @chriestinenpape
    @chriestinenpape 2 місяці тому +14

    I really enjoy this podcast and appreciate both of their expertise and experience!

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому

      So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching🧡

  • @dolleydano2057
    @dolleydano2057 2 місяці тому +5

    I really love and enjoy this conversation very detailed. Thank you both

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @zarinatiger6244
    @zarinatiger6244 2 місяці тому +5

    The jealousy part is true on both ends in my opinion. I mean it's flattering in the beginning then it must die down otherwise it becomes uncomfortable and uncontrollable leading to an unhappy miserable relationship ❤ thank you @Lewis enjoyed this interview✨️

  • @DeirdreMFox
    @DeirdreMFox 2 місяці тому +2

    Awesome interview, Macken has a bright career ahead of him.

  • @colleenwoods5065
    @colleenwoods5065 2 місяці тому +40

    Thank you for having this guest on, Lewis! I appreciated his humility as he referenced a number of times that he's young and just starting out in his field. We all start somewhere. I think we can do ourselves and society a service by encouraging those in his generation who are illustrating their passions/interests in a way to improve the lives of others. I hope his app assistants couples to have deeper and more meaningful conversations💓 Thanks again, Lewis!

    • @murphymacken
      @murphymacken 2 місяці тому +6

      Thank you for the kind words.

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому +3

      You're welcome, thank you for watching! 🧡

  • @CorinneAudibert-qy6nm
    @CorinneAudibert-qy6nm 2 місяці тому +10

    Fantastic interview. Refreshing humility, emotional intelligence and big brains here.

  • @ingridquintanilla8057
    @ingridquintanilla8057 Місяць тому +3

    Absolutely love Macken’s delivery ! He’s so good

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much for your feedback 🙂

  • @ronitairengbam8107
    @ronitairengbam8107 21 день тому

    Nicely expressed, calm comparison between too. Cool studies 👌

  • @irinasolarova2636
    @irinasolarova2636 Місяць тому

    This was so great! I couldn’t believe his age vs his level of maturity and humilty.

  • @mcc1873
    @mcc1873 Місяць тому +5

    The cost of beauty for a woman is the inevitable experience of aging she will experience both lookism, and ageism 10 fold not due to ego or entitlement but through her entire interaction with the outside world. It is amazing the reach of appearance has

    • @elizabeetle13
      @elizabeetle13 Місяць тому +1

      I can see that point. I was never attractive so getting older doesn't bother me. It's the old "when you've got nothing, you've got nothing to lose" mindset.

  • @ufojeo
    @ufojeo 2 місяці тому +8

    Regardless if he doesn’t have the life experience most old heads have, it’s still worth a listen. He’s a scholar and literally does studies on infidelity. This is quite similar to psychologists who do studies, the only difference is the age. Keep an open mind and don’t follow what other people’s ego say on here 🙄

  • @TeriHuebert-tq7kf
    @TeriHuebert-tq7kf 21 день тому +2

    I love this channel!! I just discovered it today and I’m binging.

  • @laureenprice8123
    @laureenprice8123 Місяць тому +2

    Excellent interview! He gave so much useful information!

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @omradiant
    @omradiant 2 місяці тому +9

    Fantastic interview!👍

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому

      Thank you for taking the time out of your day to check out the interview! So glad you enjoyed it🧡

  • @monikaherbichova1047
    @monikaherbichova1047 2 місяці тому +3

    Wow that was fascinating interview Thank you ❤

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому

      So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.

  • @enlightenyourself5200
    @enlightenyourself5200 Місяць тому

    Such a professional and responsible approach to sharing his expertise and his caution where it’s not his area but weighing in with such a vast knowledge of other areas that overlap. I really appreciated this genuine and very insightful conversation into men and women and the many aspects of fidelity . Thank you both 😊

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому

      I appreciate your feedback, thank you so much for watching! 🙌

  • @lindaerdey3887
    @lindaerdey3887 2 місяці тому +2

    Awesome content!❤

  • @annettepaul3584
    @annettepaul3584 2 місяці тому +21

    I’m enjoying the content. I believe science tells us a lot and is overlooked in conversation. Psychology is a research based science too actually.

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  2 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for being here 🧡

  • @user-or3rk4vl5j
    @user-or3rk4vl5j Місяць тому +3

    This young man has studied his his filled and knows what he is talking about! I appreciate his candor. I appreciate him, saying this isn’t socially acceptable, but this is what I found, and he just goes with the truth! And I appreciate that greatly!

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому

      Thank you so much for your feedback 🙂

  • @justinanorwath3847
    @justinanorwath3847 2 місяці тому +1

    I want to share this to my network and more. Thank you Lewis and Macken for this knowledge about infidelity etc 🎉❤

  • @ElDrom_Belle
    @ElDrom_Belle Місяць тому +2

    Wow, the guest is so young and yet so utterly mature and insightful. Whatcan impressive young man. Once again excellent choice Lewis, bravo

    • @lewishowes
      @lewishowes  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching! I'm glad you liked it!