British guitarist analyses Tina S's total lack of ANY inadequacy!!!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Tonight after many requests I'm taking a look at Tina S playing through her version of a Beethoven classic!
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I've been playing for 45 years. I have my master's degree in solo classical guitar performance. I'm considered to be very talented. Compared to this incredibly gifted lady, who I'm convinced is an alien from a far more technically developed planet, my playing sounds like my instrument. Is 4 rusty metal strings attached to a long steel pipe. Folks, you are listening to as close to perfection as it gets. I was at a concert in Lyon, France with her and Joe Satriani. They were playing simultaneously and at one point, Joe just stopped playing and walked over to Tina just to watch her. His face had a look of sheer joy and disbelief. When asked what he thought of Tina's playing, he stammered and murmured, "Fuck me sideways. She passed genius level lifetimes ago and has achieved perfection." this, from Joe Satriani, a true God.
Tina, le français est ma deuxième langue, et je voulais vous addresser dans notre langue maternelle. Le niveau d'expertise que vous démontrez, le cœur bouleversant et le sentiment que vous apportez à chaque pièce, me font pleurer et me font sourire plûtot au même temps. Merci beaucoup d'avoir partagé votre cadeau avec nous-autres, puis avev le monde entier
Thanks Fil :) you know why I'm thanking you :) I've heard very recently that Tina S deliberately left UA-cam because of some very nasty comnents/allegations/accusations that she's a fraud. Further, it's been said that she "speeds up the video to make it appear to be faster“. My response to that is as follows: the ONLY sort of person who could be stupid enough to make such a notion public couldn't be a guitarist. Or, if they are, they are enraged by the fact that a 17 year old could exhibit such mastery, and they themselves will never amount to anything more than a pint of piss. We REAL guitarists are only too aware of what both her hands are doing, and listen carefully you ignorant trolls, her hands match the sound output. I'm deeply offended (but not at all surprised) that anybody would soil such purity and brilliance with these jealous, petty accusations. I've reached out to her in a series of long tweets in French, reassuring her that her presence is vital to the guitar playing community. She has value. You trolls are mere placeholders. You Fil, your reaction vids are the best because you articulate what the players are doing in terms we understand. Most of the other vid reactions are genuine, but "fuck, what the.... Shit dude, what?" just doesn't feed the admiral's cat :) Keep doing your quality analyses. They are as valuable and appreciated as the playing. Cheers!
Hi, OG. To be honest, I can't offer you an explanation because I can't find the original post to which you responded and I'm sure it is quite dated. Sorry. If it was disparaging to Tina in anyway I'm sure it was intended experimental sarcastic. I have the utmost respect and regard for her and would defend her under any circumstances, and have on many. Beyond that, I can't be more specific.
I particularly like this video and it's commentor because he takes apart her performance with the knowledge of a true professional who's been there and points out many of the things that make her and this performance so special. If I've said otherwise elsewhere, I apologise.

OG Gamer Palm Springs, CA
randolph timm plays with such carelessness? Your question, or your point, doesn't make much sense. That, or you didn't communicate it on the level that you intended, because my take away was "what did he just say?" I'm very reluctant to discuss my own credentials until I encounter a post like yours. You say that you "obviously" interact with gifted, or on the spectrum kids. How is this obvious to a group of total strangers? I said earlier that I have a master's degree in solo classical guitar performance. But, being the insane over achiever that i am, I also have a PhD in Psychology, Deviancy and Aberrant Behavior. So I'm not understanding your post at all. Can you rephrase it maybe? I'd actually like to pursue this aspect of the convo. And to the illiterate fool calling Dolphin all kinds of ridiculous things, I'd put those stones back in your pocket, bro. You have no right to throw them. His comments are thoughtful and clear. Whether or not you agree couldn't be less important. My guess is that the allegory eludes you completely. Mores the pity.
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Just curious, OG.. You sure this was me?? Doesn't sound like me.🤔
Did he get screwed sideways?
I'm a pro guitarist. I'm 56 and been playing since I was 10. I REALLY sold out to play guitar by the time I was 12. I can tell you that in my teen years guitar was almost a religion for me. I worked SO HARD to get to where I got. I can tell you from a technical standpoint I didn't even get close to this. At my best I was able to play most of the EVH stuff. Kids, understand - To get as good as Tina is from a technical standpoint, you can't have any "life." Guitar must become your "life." People like this tend to make it look easy. The beginner may watch this and think, "wow. I'd like to do that." Understand it will take most of your waking hours to get this good. You'll have time to eat, shower, and take care of bodily functions. Video gaming? Forget it. Social media? No way. Binge watching Neflix or really any other form of entertainment? Nope. Guitar has to become all of those things or you will NOT get this good.
Amen! I say to people they can play like this. But they will never have the available time to play like this! People don't realise it's literally a way of life. Jason Beckers mum said he never let go of his guitar, even at dinner he'd bring it to the table. It is literally spending every spare moment on the fretboard. I sacrifice some practise time for answering comments, but I can live with that! 😂👍
JdNtBrLrTi i have to disagree on that one, I'm at my 2nd year of playing and I can play like her, and I haven't been totally taken over by it, you don't have to give up all entertainment to get this good.
@@isaiahorta6049 can you post a video? no hate, just curious
@@MrFlyingPanda l second that.
@@isaiahorta6049why don't you post a video of you playing like her?
There are very very very few guitarists who ever reach this level of proficiency ... to reach this level at 17 is simply incomprehensible. Show this video to ANY guitarist and their jaw will hit the floor. Her speed and accuracy is stunning. She was at 17 one of the top guitarists in the world ... bar none.
Lisa X and hundreds of others have done it at 8 years old CK her out. She got Paul Gilberts attention and he invited her over to jam so at that age she's jamming with the best at this type of stuff. Still not for me. I find it boring. Like Yngwie after 3 minutes boring gotta walk out JMO
he`s a phucking thief ... stolen videos 🖕 👎🖕 👎🖕 👎
just wow!
Prodigy
People are saying she has no emotion. That is called concentration! It's like a game of chess. She's thinking miles ahead in the tune of any normal person. Keep on Rocking Tina S.
I looked a some videos of her at 4 or 5 years old playing classical guitar, she had that same expression, she was awesome, even at such a young age! Her expression is called concentration, and being totally in the moment! This is what total genius looks like! Amazing!
The f is wrong with them? What she is doing isnt easy whatsoever. They expect her to laugh while playing too? Of course she has to be in her A game
exactly, what game is more emotional ? chess or nba ?
and she is sped up a bit ;)
You gotta look at the through the fire and flames Video if you wanna See her smile :)
With the Steve Vai cover she shows more expression. For me it's always there, in her playing..
I don't even play guitar and she makes me want to quit it
Johan Liebert 😄
dont quit, the guitar makers will go out of business :)) seriously do NOT quit ! if LvB could do it so can everybody else, except django reinhard, he'd probably do it better.YOU CAN DO IT. seriously awaiting a youtube video ;
@@hansti1 lol ok even tho I don't play
I already did lol ! I bought a Les Paul and it's been in my cupboard for 3 years
Johan May the covid-19 demon MISS YOU ENTIRELY ! Ya made me laugh out loud !
People complaining about no expressions on Tina...are you crazy!!!? Every single brain cell & billions of synapses are just trying to keep up with her finger action. You go young lady!
it isn't just facial expressions all her music is very mechanical and blank.
@@MrAtrophy
Agreed, it's very well practised but with no feel. Pure sign of autistic savant and/or OCD, like all those young Asian "genius" pianists. I've observed Tina's maturation over the years. Some years ago she was totally anti-social, with the same mechanical obsession on the fretboard. Gradually, from all the accolades and Facebook support, she's become a a little more sociable (when not playing) -- very similar to Angelina Jordan. Sigh ... many people are so often impressed with virtuosic fireworks they can't discriminate feel from technique.
@@MrAtrophy Watch her Megadeth cover, for Tina it's intense lol
Not complaining just noting and understand completely often by the time I've got something to the point I'm happy with it and I'm not this proficient, it's hard to get the emotion it becomes a technical exercise,
But music is first and fore most an emotional art form so in a way I find these at odds , this shows often in the studio where first try at a solo are often the best , less clinical sounding , and besides who doesn,t like a good guitar face ,
@divorcedme
No my friend, I'm not claiming to be a "better" guitar player than TinaS, just adding my 2 cent's worth of information and opinion relevant to the OPs statement re facial expressions. If you look about the world you will notice this common thread, that musicians of many kinds make varying facial expressions dependent upon the nervous processes in their brain (mind), some of which reveal concentration or relaxation, stressful contortions or blissful peace, etc, and some are just plain blank. Let me ask you -- how can some "genius" musician, at the cutting edge of virtuosity, NOT make expressive indications of their extreme nervous processes? Every high level player does it to some extent. But observe the behaviours and expressions of those with autism spectrum and you will notice the similarities of "not being there" emotionally. TinaS sometimes chews gum while playing. Do you know why? It is a device to stop teeth grinding, coming from an extremely tense jaw (ie unconscious brain sectors), unable to be relaxed by will power. Just saying. Along with the mechanistic feel of her playing commented by many other guitarists not overly "amazed" by her fast fingerwork, it's all just part of the syndrome. Like it or leave it according to taste; understand it better or just live with a misunderstanding. Not my business.
Who , the hell, would dare put a Thumb Down on such a play. The girl is pure Extra Terrestrial performance. Most 20yrs olds can barely even count to 100, let alone speak a language adequately. She plays guitar like we take a walk. Way to go Tina. I admire you. 1000 Thumbs UP from me. Your music and play are inspiring.
i agree with you 100 percent
E.T is the word, lets kill here, the americans do....
only a reflection of tonio k
@@hansti1 At least we Americans tend to be fluent with the English language, just as we _try_ to become fluent in a foreign language before we dare to converse in it. What's _your_ excuse?
And no, we will _not_ be killing any ETs, nor will we be killing Tina S. On the contrary, if I owned a string of nightclubs with stages for live music, I'd be offering her a contract right about now! With her guitar mastery, she'd bring in the crowds and pack my establishments with paying customers every night, no doubt!
@@BloodyBay kinda sounded like tonio k. we're americans we love everyone?(check it out: one big(happy) family :))
My lord........couldn't help but giving her a standing ovation half-way through......in my living room......lol. Sheer brilliance.
This is simple....this girl is phenomenal..
Go Tina.....🎸🙏🇬🇧
Just for fun, I took the time to go through the video and count how many notes Tina hits on the way through this piece. She plays for 5 minutes and 58.72 seconds and hits 2540 notes for an average of 7.08 notes per second for the whole piece. That is astounding!! I miss Tina and hope she comes back to UA-cam soon or, better yet, goes on tour. I'd like to think she might tour with the Trans-Siberia Orchestra one day. I think she would fit in with that group like a glove. So freaking talented and a pure technician with the guitar.
7.08 notes per second??? It is hard to comprehend that speed. The best test to take for anyone whether a guitar player or flute player, is to put all your fingers on a flat surface and start to tap them in any order you choose. Watch a timer and get to the point where you are tapping at 7 taps per second Now, here is the trick, continue that tapping at 7 per second for the next 5 minutes without a glitch.
It's actually not too difficult to comprehend, as on the guitar it's possible to tap 6 or 7 notes onto the fretboard with tapping. Although it's much more common to see 5 to 6 fingers being used as Tina does here. As soon as you fret the notes you'll have 6 in rapid succession, if you remove them again in sequence, that's 12 notes, which will all happen in a fraction of a second. For a better appreciation, just tap your nails onto a hard surface in sequence, like you're waiting for something, then imagine every time you lift your finger from the surface you'd get another note. You'll soon be able to imagine the speed going on 🙂
@@jeffreyburley4033 The really scary thing is, she sometimes is only hitting 1 or 2 notes per second which means at times she is going far more quickly without missing a note. The best news is she's back with a band called Spin Twice. I cannot wait until they tour in my neck of the woods.
@@wingsofpegasus I appreciate your taking the time to educate me very much; it is incredibly kind of you. I've tried a number times in my life to play a few instruments including guitar, bass, piano, flute and, one time (literally), clarinet (I blew a correct note the very first try - LOL). Anyway, I never put in the time or effort to become proficient; however, I appreciate great music in all its forms. I enjoy videos like yours because they give me insights into how music is put together and formed through rules and methods I didn't know existed. I think if I had been introduced to these things at an earlier age, I may have found a bit more success. It doesn't mean I couldn't do it now as I recently learned how to draw but I did it every single day for 2 years to get to my current level which is pretty good as I can draw photo-realistic portraits if I take the time (usually 4-8 hours). I'm happy with that but would like to apply it to something musical. We'll see in the next year.
Thanks again for taking your very important time to provide me with new knowledge. I am a fierce supporter of Tina S. and hope to see her on tour with her new band if they visit Canada. Cheers and all the best.
She's beautiful and insanely talented, a perfect target for trolls.
She has a work ethic that trolls are unfamiliar with.
can we just be real, she lacks emotions. One can point this truth out and not be a troll, or hater. Reality is how it is and even tho shes insanely good when it comes to mechanical play - she still lacks the emotions when shes playing. Yes i play guitar myself, yes not even close as good as her and probably i never will cause i dont play that much. I can still just point this out and not be a total asshole. Get real man.
Such a sad fucking culture of dismal jerks tearing down good talented people.
@@TheBlackfall234 She lacks emotion? How the fuck do you know that? I'd love to see you make that criticism to her face and how stupid that would make you look. May I suggest John Tess at Red Rock? You'll absolutely love it. Just full of sappy emotion.
I can guarantee you that she has no life. It would be nothing but practice all day.
She's my favorite guitarist. I love how she plays everything completely effortlessly. I wish she'd come back.
She’s back. Spin Twice is her band I believe.
@@Heidi.M Yeah, Heidi I hope she rips off some solo work there. She needs to be out on her own like Gary was and Steve Vai still is. but they stand up and walk around she didn't. but with this band she is standing up but her play hasta be suffering. I mean you can't do the stuff she was doing back then walking around and jumping all over the place. I mean that Beetoveen thing absolutely blew me away!
I following her for a while. She's in lack of nothing. She's a living legend.
Being able to play a piece flawlessly is all practice and ability. I would like to see her free jazz or blues playing and what she can come up with off the cuff. Often two very different skills. Many people can play flawless compositions but cant open jam to save their life
I’ve been at it for 50+ years and am nowhere near this level. This is the upper limit of what is technically possible on the guitar. Absolutely incredible technique.
No, it's not. I love her playing but what say- John Williams does is far more difficult. Perhaps almost infinitely more difficult. And as a classically trained guitarist (which is why Tina, in this video only that I know of, is playing the guitar on her left leg not her right) would be the first to acknowledge this.
I'm soon 65yrs of age, played since I was 9yrs old. Started with Chet Atkins finger style, some hard fast Yngwie stuff about 10 years ago. But after first hearing Tina S and seeing how focused she is really gives
you an appreciation of her talents. I used to practice 9-12 hours a day, never learned to read music. She is the one that the very best musicians stand in awe of. What Michael Jackson is to pop music, Connie Talbot to Britain's got Talent, Tina is to Guitarists. Wow Thanks for posting this great video.She has been my guitar hero, not just for her skills, but her humbleness.
She's modest, never wears anything revealing like most of the ladies in YT to "catch" likes, subs ..she's all talent nothing else.
She makes all the guy's jelly, she's amazing!!
Like the few technically great guitarists, when she is playing you are not looking at her face… or her legs etc; you are mesmerized by her hands, and your eyes are probably closed anyway so YOU can concentrate on what what you are hearing.
My brain can barely process what I'm hearing let alone seeing. I can't do both. Phenomenal doesn't even describe this.
She was born to be a legendary guitarist.
Normally I'd agree 100% however, her uploads cover a time period from when she first started lessons at age 6 so I wouldn't sider her (obvious) talent a birth right or call her a savant, sh'es worked very hard, long hours to be this good, and clearly...it's paid off!
She was trained to become a legendary guitarist.
If she was a doctor...….She'd cure cancer...……….She's beyond incredible. Beyond Talent. Amazing...…….
and cure covid
I have been a fan of this young lady for several years. I've probably watched most of her videos several times over. I enjoyed the split screen with her matching Malmsteen. She is in my opinion better. She is all business when she plays. One video she made shows a quick smile just before melting her guitar. Her abilities and perfection have brought tears to my eyes. She plays with such skill and concentration having totally mastered nearly every technique known. She is just simply a joy to watch and there is none better. There will always be those who criticize. But there will always be those of us who will always love her for the enjoyment she has brought us. By the way I'm 75 and still pickin.
Cool!
Marcus Aurelius
: Awesome dude!
In fairness, Malmsteen wrote “Arpeggios From Hell” while Tina covered it. I don’t know if it’s possible to play more technically efficient than Tina, but you could say the same for Yngwie. On top of that, Rising Force was written, recorded and released by the time Yngwie was Tina’s age. So, yeah. Malmsteen is a monolith.
Marcus Aurelius Well put 👍🏻 I have also been a fan and I have to say I have never heard such a young person play with such greatness in my whole life.
+Marcus Aurelius "a quick smile before melting her guitar" Now....... imagine a perminate smaile on her face as the guitar melts HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now..... technically....... a lot of people try their whole life to get what she has "technically" and never even gets close to the technical skill she has. When she ever learns to let the guitar play HER and the moment the guitar melts HER! Her skill will tripple from that moment forward.
There is only 1 person that can litterally just stand their with their guitar and a microphone and hold a whole stadium hostage........ that would be George Strait.... The guy has more #1's than ANYONE from ANY gnre....... Elvis the king?????? ok..... if you insist....... George is midas cus if he touches it, its instant GOLD and king can gold not buy :) lol.
She has the whole piece memorized so well that she doesn’t have to look at the frets as she plays... Bravo Maestro!!!!
I have mastered facial expressions. Now got to learn how to play the guitar.
Paul Christian she has a perfect poker face.
That's funny
Check expressions of "veena srivani" while she plays her instrument. You will like it.
Paul Christian , me, too...😁
Paul Christian 😄
Big deal...I could do this! If I had 13 fingers, 1,000 years to practice and um, yeah, I can't do this.😳
😂😂😂
I have been playing and practicing guitar for nearly 45 years. The best I can do is play a 64th note. That's 16 individual notes each second. Unfortunately, I can only play one of them. Just one. This girl plays her heart out. I"m impressed.
dude,wats ur damage.u pissed a girl kicked ur ass on guitar?
You're being too hard on yourself... 12 fingers will do just fine.
lol, great comment.
This girl is wonderful
People explain it away as her being"talented"
No shit Sherlock, but it's so much more than that
It's the hours upon hours of ceaseless dedication that is required to do what she's pulling off here, it's staggering
It's a 24/7 dedication to the craft.
Awesome job!
I can only imagine what the future holds for this young woman
The sky's the limit ❤️
To quote Connor McGregor when he was at the top opf the MMA game... "This is an obsession. Talent does not exist, we are all equals as human beings. You could be anyone if you put in the time. You will reach the top, and that's that. I am not talented, I am obsessed."
First time I've seen/heard of Tina S. How have I never? This is amazing.
As I scrolled down through the comments and read that this young lady had been criticized it quite saddened me. She is an exceptionally tallented young lady. I love that " game face " as I call it. She's just so totally into her craft and loving it. It's a joy to behold! All the hours of practice have paid off and I hope she continues. I think Beethoven would have loved her! She's marvelous!
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Anyone criticizing her talent deserves to be slapped silly. There's always some slimeball waiting in the wings ready to tear down someone's amazing talents. Jealous?? Apply yourselves and put in the work like she obviously did, lazy stupid cunts.
jelous assholes always belittle people that are better than they r.so yeah...some dumbasses talk shit about her.I hate those stupid pricks
@@rickleblanc8900 yup I am not jealous and love this young gorgeous French guitar virtuoso lady. My dream girlfriend/future wife would play guitar or bass and we could have a band together.
@@larrysmithart7241 yup I get dumbies constantly insulting my videos and playing but I never claim to be a guitar virtuoso lol.
Tina Is the best guitarist in the world, The end💕
Great technical skill i appreciate her enormous skill but not really the sounds or music i want to hear. No such thing as best guitarist depends on individual taste
the dooo
Thousands and thousands of UA-cam commenters who are blessed with the gift of absolute unblemished certainty.
Tina and Marcin Patrzalek are among my top 10 greatest guitarists. Probably 7 and 8 (only because they've decades to move up).
...Guthrie Govan...
Can you imagine going to a high school talent show and hearing that?!😳🤯
If you were on next, you would probably not bother
Can you imagine her walking into a guitar shop and looking around?
I see the stretch of her hand as well as the strength-it that makes sense…unbelievable. I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t see this video analysis. Thanks @WingsofPegasus Rock!
While this degree of technicality requires thousands of hours of learning, it also takes raw talent. As you can see in the comments from experience guitarists, they've been playing their entire life and have come to the realization that they'll never be able like Tina S. That doesn't detract from their expertise, it just means that they can't play like Tina. She has a gift, and she capitalized upon it. Everyone can run and get into shape, but only the truly gifted can become a top athlete. Genetics ensures that everyone is not equal in specific ways. Not everyone can become a virtuoso.
Precisely.
Perfectly stated. I'm definitely a talented classical guitarist. But it would take 3 more lifetimes for me to be able to play at the level she does in 17 short years of life. She inspires me, she enfuriates me, she delights me, she makes me want to smash all of my guitars and light a bonfire. Lol
@@oggamerpalmspringsca7844 I agree completely. It terrifies me that today's generation (and as an Oakland, CA cop friend said, millennial is a state of mind and ranges ages 6-86!) says "if I worked that hard I could be that good." No, you could not. Then, think of classical pianists like Valentina Lisitsa. Her parents thought she was at musical academy; she often wasn't because it took her 3 days to learn a piece that took other students 3 weeks to 3 months...there are levels.
You can't polish a turd, as John Lennon said. While you can (auto-tune) his point is well taken. One could practice nine hours a day and without musical talent, you'll never, EVER be able to perform like Tina - nor should you try!
@@Allan-et5ig too right! I've had noisy arguments with non musicians who insist proficiency is merely a question of dedication and time. I'm glad that's not true, for obvious reasons. I've tried to explain that without the innate spark of talent and aptitude, one could spend (waste) a lifetime to reach levels of mediocrity at very best. Then I'm told I'm an elitist snob, and dismissed as one would a garden variety asshole. Without even a rudimentary understanding of the way music works, (the talent piece), the likelihood of becoming adept would have the same lack of success as if you were to try and explain what "green" is to a blind man. Impossible. There's no frame of reference to draw upon. So while I'm perturbed by the "thumbs down" and the outrageously stupid comments that accompany them, I understand why these brat babies feel compelled to post them.
@@oggamerpalmspringsca7844 You were shabbily treated without cause. One of my medical doctors drove swiftly to his son's high school to ask why the son got a commendation for finishing 6 out of 8 and a fancy medal, in a swim meet. (The Dad didn't bitch out the boy who tried his best, fyi...that wasn't his concern.)
The sheepish swim team coach said (hope you're sitting down) "everyone that participates is an equal winner whether they are first or last." So the Dad qualified and said "while I don't agree, you mean, trying is everything right?" Coach replied NO, I MEAN sixth-place is as good as first."
The Dad is from Russia and was in his twenties when cronyism had taken over in the old Soviet Union. He said this kind of thinking was frighteningly familiar.
A bit far afield from the creeps who called you elitist - but not a million miles away.
Best, Allan
Damn girl Ludwig himself is about to come out of the grave to high five you!
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Love this comment. One of my 1st impressions while watching this was thinking to myself "The western Masters were metal as f***". Beethoven, Bach and Mozart baby. Their music was transcendent. They were products of their generations but they would do just fine in this generation. I would love to have seen what JSB could have done with modern instrumentation.
@@chrislawrence328 just the reverse.
I can't tell you how many times I've watched this video and others of hers . But , every time I do I am just awestruck . She is obviously talented and that look is one of pure dedication . No one should doubt that she has put in HUGE amounts of time practicing and has earned every level of success she has achieved . This skill wasn't given , she earned every bit of it . PK
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There's a little bit of both involved, Genetic ( god given?) skill and years of hard work.
Whenever I watch this performance, I am overcome by the beauty, the relentless force, and the soul on display, and the tears flow. I enjoyed your analysis and commentary, Pegasus, but it was also a blast to watch you watch a master
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She is a Goddess, I have been watching her videos for a few years now and every time I see her ,the tears start trickling down my face. What a wonderful young woman!
She is the female version of Yngwie Malmsteen. She's magnificent.
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My thoughts exactly! Has same sound.
Aww, don't be so mean!
@Danny Bowen You know what's sad? Gender identity bullshit has become so overblown, that idk anymore if someone is genuine about it or joking about it, but I assume.. joking? I hope :D
Pardon me for what I am about to say, but Malmsteen is lightyears behind this girl. He's just fast tremolo picking and a few tapping here and there. This girl seems to be a more complete guitarist. Regards.
A true prodigy... A phenom.
429 losers that are jealous that they can’t remotely approach playing like her, or be capable of providing Phil’s wonderful commentary.
430....sounds like noise
@@VLove-CFII loveless lifeless brainless it is noise you don't hear anything that isn't noise brainiac
nah, emotionless noise. technically impressive, no soul.
Richard McEllan robotic
@@VLove-CFII alright let's see you do it.
I'm amazed by 2 things here. One is the skill and ability this girl has. Few play like this even with tons of practice, she has natural talent underneath all of the training and should be recognized for that...I hope she continues because she has the gift. Two, what is there to be negative about here? In fact why comment negative on anybody? She's an excellent guitar player doing things few can. If it's not your thing then leave it at that. People bashing others on the internet only make very plain their own inadequacies. Thanks Fil for putting this out there and for your thoughtful take on her skill and level of expertise, as well as, reminding people that you don't get to this level of excellence without putting in the time.
No problem ☺
FIL, when I first saw the thumbnail I was taken by the lines of her positions of her legs, the body of the guitar and the neck. As though taking all of nuances of location out of the setup to focus on the physical playing, and then you started the video, Pow! Amazing!
First time hearing her, definitely not the last! Thank you very much!
Tina is basically the Messi of guitar. I'm not even kidding.
I'm 53, been playing since I was like 10 or 12, and I have never seen anything like this, it really is amazing.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the reason she hasn't posted since 2016 is that she's burned out. She's truly amazing.
What else could she do on guitar now? She went to college, studied law, and rumour has it, opened a music publishing business.
She started getting hate mail calling her a fake etc. I heard that she went to college and has since recently returned to play more music and videos! I also read that it took her 3 months to get this down pat and it was done in one take.
I know how hard pieces like this are to learn, you literally have to learn them one bar at a time and gradually bring it all up to speed and then you need to get to the point where you can play it all in one take with no show stopping errors.
This guy understands just how much work this takes so I respect his opinions here
Thanks!
@@wingsofpegasus you're very welcome!
I was a musician in high school, playing the trumpet. I can also play guitar but just enough to do chording. But when I watch a person like this perform, even having experience playing a musical instrument, I simply cannot comprehend someone with this type of ability. I'm sure there may be a few others in the world that can get to this level of achievement but I'm thinking those odds are one in a billion. With about 8 billion people in the world, that means there might be 7 others that can do what she does, especially on a guitar. Very thought-out and informative review. Thanks.
LOL not a single person here making negative comments is even close to her
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...neither are any of us who leave positive comments!
I've always like the the quote "A good musician practices until he gets it right. A great musician practices until he can't get it wrong." She's obviously the latter. I don't see how she picks that fast, much less how she fingers the strings so fast. And she'll just keep getting better. I would like to hear her play it with the guitar not so dirty, just to make more notes come through better.
Picking that fast isn't so much the trick, it's picking that fast from the wrist that's... I can't... I think I'm developing carpal tunnel syndrome just imagining attempting it myself.
I loved her channel. Very talented. Kudos for giving her a spotlight!
No problem!
I was introduced to her through this video. She is amazing! Thankful for such thoughtful analysis in all your videos. I love learning about the techniques and artist history. Your analysis are the best! Please keep them coming.
Tina S is stunning.
My father was a classical pianist. I remember him playing this piece. At age 4 (in a non musical family), he could play hymns from church with both hands on the keyboard. However he had no family support necessary to reach professional standard. To them it was little more than a party trick.
After WW2 In his late 20s he moved back home & took extended time off work to practice. There is a story that during winter 1947 his mum brought him a mug of tea. When he got around to picking it up it was frozen solid.
His top local music teacher told him he could not teach him anything. He won a scholarship to Britain’s top music university but he did do have the money to support himself.
He never became a professional musician.
Sad - of course. Unusual? Absolutely not. You need talent of course but also the right circumstances, finances and a huge amount of luck.
That's what I call: a cool story bro.
I don’t care if it’s real or not; I cried
She's one with the guitar. Her fingers are epic. She plays it cool like Knopfler, the expression is in the music not the face.
I love the fact that you pointed out the time it takes. Most people that don't play have no idea. I find I can learn things but don't have the time to really nail it down. With work kids and life in general. Thank you for sharing. And she is truly amazing.
Hello. Tina is French and she was 17 years old on this video. She started the guitar at 6 years old. This guitar is an Excalibur from the French luthier Vigier. Cordially.
the comments on her cover of ''through the fire and flames'' were awful. i can understand why she stopped posting. people are awful on internet, between the video being sped up or having multiple takes edited together, and of course, those complaining she has no expression on her face, makes you wanna punch the fucking screen. always complaining, people can't just appreciate what some others can do. this is sad.
Yeah it's just jealousy.
@@wingsofpegasus exactly, and it's really unfortunate. i am all for constructive criticism, but being mean is just pointless
There are always annoying comments, but she seems to get it WAY worse then normal, and I have no idea why. Is it she is more talented then average, so she attracts more bad comments? I do not know.
She is slayinnng it!
What?!?!
People demanding facial expressions as a prove for feeling is stupid. Shes just a kid and is prob not confortable with a camera...
Such ability! My mom was an Oxford Piano grad who could play several different instruments. She taught as well and she tried to get me to practice every day, but I wanted to roam the fields and farm with my grandparents. Now I wish I had practiced! Stay with it while young. Like Fil said, that's when we have the time, not after we have a job, mortgage and family.
She makes it look so easy, such talent!! Simply amazing
Instantly shocked and amazed !! Immediately fell in love with her talent Thank You Fil for this beautiful gift !!
I've been playing for like 50 years and I'm still learning to play one note really well. When I see an artist play at this level, It is so beautiful I just want to go down to the crossroads and make a deal.
What do you mean go down to the crossroads. She was the one that thought the devil
Thanks for sharing this! I confess I have never heard of this highly gifted musician before and I am very grateful for learning about her. I will seek out her performances and recordings.
Revised all your Old Videos here and Still loving it. Here ever since 5k and can't get enough of it. Great video FIL.. God Bless
Yeah, she's amazing. I've been watching her for a while. There are a lot of great guitar players, but a smaller handful of players worth drooling over as players of extraordinary talent. She's one of those. It's not only that she's playing all of that here (and other pieces), but she makes everything look effortless and then manages to add some emotion and a special touch of her own. I don't know if she plans on going into music as a career, but, man, she can play with the very best of them.
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Believe it or not, it has come to my attention that she is such a prodigy that she does not to need to practice as much as you assume -- not two years, not two months; less. Her age has nothing to do with it. No one on the planet can play as well as she can. Absolutely no one. Everything she does with the guitar is super human. Bravo, Tina!
This girl is among the top 1% of guitar players in the world. I can't imagine too many people being able to come close to her. Wow!!!!
She is in the top 1% of the top 1% lol
I am absolutely mesmerized by the fingers of her left hand. Spellbinding.
At seventeen, her mastering of the sound, her tecnic, and her timing is simply AMAZING !!!!!
She is quite amazing. And nicely spotted the classical guitar position - always jumps out when you see that.
Thanks for underlining how much PRACTICE this takes..... I think many people simply don't realise what goes into something like this.
Piano-wise, I think I could still play the first movement by heart, the second with the sheet and could never play the third properly.
Jesus, xxx hours a day for 8 years doing set pieces, arpeggios, scales, contra chromatics and I still couldn't play the efffin thing on the instrument it was written for.
And Tina just goes and does it on the guitar. No eyelids batted.
Hats off.
Wow. I'm glad you interrupted. I needed it to take a breath, or I might have suffocated from forgetting to inhale.
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Make no mistake about it. This girl would have NO LIFE!!. Guitar all day every day. That's all she would do. To get this proficient the focus has to be intense. Virtuoso? No. Absurd practice? Yes.
I lost track how often I listened to this piece now.
Even if she sticks to the tracks she uploaded already, it's wonderful she shared them.
Just keep in mind - composers used an orchestra to transport the emotion of this pieces.
It's litteraly possible to feel Beethoven in this take. Wonderful.
You have opened my eyes, and ears, to performers and performances that I haven’t been exposed to before. Thank you, you are enlarging my world and life.
She's incredible and your analysis is top notch!
Love reading the comments from experienced musicians appreciating her talent! Thanks Fil for pointing out her talents and techniques!😍
Someone commented that to earn this much skill requires a commitment that practically eliminates all other facets of living a normal life. It should be appreciated that Tina, during all these years of dedicated practice, was also a full-time student in France. I've read only one interview with her, by a guitar publication, and she was asked a question about her career. Her thoughtful reply: "I have no career. I'm only 15. I am a student."
Yeah everyone is a full time student until the age of 16 here by law! 😂
True. If I had it to do over, I'd be an accountant. Now I'm too old for the road.
It doesn’t matter how many times I watch her play this, I am always in complete awe. That a human being could be this talented at anything is simply magical.
Tina is a legend on UA-cam. Sadly she doesn’t put out videos any more. I hope she is well and still playing.
Birth name: Tina Setkic
Born: 7 April 1999, Paris, France
Genres: Heavy metal, Shred metal, rock
♫♫ pure genius ♫♫♥♥♥♫♫
She's incredible and that is an understatement. You very well could be seeing one of the all time greatest guitar players ever,and She's only going to get better
So happy to stumble upon your channel and see your critique of Miss Tina. I agree with everything you mention about her, especially regarding how much time it must take to achieve this level of proficiency. My only regret is that it’s been over 3 years since her last video, and she’s released nothing since she turned 18. I’m afraid that we may have seen the last of this wonderful young musician. I hope to be proven wrong, but I’m guessing she’s moved on to another endeavor. At least we have a small catalog upon which to draw and contemplate “what may have been.” Cheers!
I had never heard of her. 23 years old now--17?!!! 👏👏👏👏👏
Look for Evlee, I think she's 13.
Absolutely blows my mind. How beautiful. Luck to you Tina.
Golly! I've never heard of her and was surfing UA-cam and I gotta say...she's the best guitarist I've ever heard. I'm 49 years old and her tone and skills are absolutely perfect! Then you throw in speed and Technic and she's untouchable. I'm happy I went surfing today.
This young woman is amazing.
I love how she looks away like she's thinking, "hmm, perhaps a ham and cheese for lunch"..."did I shut the window?" hmm-
This piece obviously took a great deal of time and practice to master, and yet she makes it look _dead simple!_ That's an enviable degree of guitar mastery, right there! :-)
I know, she's just so talented and natural
She is an unbelievable talent. I am learning the Moonlight third movement on the piano at the moment. It is a very difficult piece and I could never have imagined someone transcribing this onto electric guitar! Of course it is disappointing to those of us who appreciated her playing that she is not posting at the present, but people change. Technically she may believe she has achieved all she wanted to and is doing something new.. Whatever she is doing, I hope she is content and may be at some point she will return, but if not, we have still had the pleasure of those performances she has shared with us.
most girls her age listen to pop music, the fact that she spent the time and effort to become this great is awesome
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@Bill Ilkovski Eastern music (though mostly from Japan), now that's music to my ears.
@Bill Ilkovski Why? Is western music "simple" and "immature"? And what eastern music would it be? Indian? Javanese? Korean? Chinese? Japanese? Aborigin? Or arabic? Or gypsy? Both of these two may also be considered "eastern", you know?
Most girls her age are doing selfies with their mouth wide open
She has put hours, days, months, years into this... so to say no emotion is not going in is complete b.s..
I totally agree, and to refer to her as looking like someone with Autism/OCD like 'The Dolphin' commented, is disgusting. I have children with autism who are very expressive in their facial expressions, especially whilsr playing their guitars. This young lady is amazing, no one could claim otherwise in my opinion. I guess there aew some jealous people out there who wish they had a fraction of Tina's talent.
Affected grimacing is overrated! Skill comes first.
Tina's picking is perfect. No extra movement! The feet hands is a blur! I can't imagine moving at that incredible speed. Wow!
She's actually miming here, but no doubt can play this piece!
I've learned from personal experience that those who A. Believe Jimi Hendrix is the best guitar player ever (I'm not saying anything negative about him) and B. Spend their time hating on guitarists that are obviously incredible, either don't play guitar or are really bad at it.
@mark totton So it would appear that you're one of those people. Hahaha.
@mark totton So then you're just a hater? Hmm...
mark totton I wouldnt give him the time of day. Any actual guitar players criticism will be taken as a hater/troll. So many people cant seem to handle criticism with her playing. Sad cause she is ok but there is a ton of her videos that im not impressed
@@shredfactor7and Totten. Those are all great players! My personal favorites are probably Eric Johnson and Paul Gilbert.
There is no best guitarist ever. For me, Jimi is the guitarist with the combination of technical abilities AND creativity AND feel who I like most. And, btw, Tina S is awesome.
She's exceptionally good. I just think that watching this makes me want to play more and keep pushing.
I don't think this level of playing is impossible but very difficult to have the hours to put in.
But just to give others some hope, if you want to get seriously better, then you'll have to find those hours. I played for over 30 years 'coasting' as I felt my speed and technique were good enough. But then, some shred monster next to me in guitar shop played at breakneck speed and blew me away.
Did I quit? No, no freaking way.
I fell back in love with my new guitar and have been putting in 2-3 hours a day.
Alternate picking has sped up, I can drill on multiple strings whilst improvising.
I've made more gains this year than in the past 10 years.
You have to be brutal with what you practice. Analyse every note, find ways to minimize movements and hand tension, play the pattern over and over again, then more.
You sometimes play the pattern the following day and gain 20-30% extra speed...then have no idea why.
These little gains that spike keep happening and is enough to keep me practicing. I doubt I'll be hitting the level of her playing any time soon, but that's going to push me more, not less.
The best comment I've ever seen about Tina!!!
This young woman is exceptionally gifted ... proud of you, Tina.
Yes, 'total lack of ANY inadequacy' is just the right phrase.
Been following Tina for years. She beats 99% of syndicated guitarist. I've been playing since 13 and have never been or ever will be to her level. She's gifted. Definitely needs to be writing her own music. Which is where the true talent is.
She trilled with her pinky faster than I can with my index finger. wow
Thank you for doing a review of Tina and her skills... I have loved her work for some time now 🎶💕🎶 Rock On Fil
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Fil my favorite UA-camr!!!
I'm a year late to the party, but I made it. (whew)
I had just watched her video as it just showed up in my recommended, and right below there you wait to enlighten me further. 👍
My Mother, now 92 is/was a classical pianist, I grew up with so much exposure to many great works. When I saw the piece this artist had listed on this particular video; I thought, oh? This young lady blew me away, it's kinda late here in the states but I'll share it with Mom in the morning.
And once again I truly get a kick out of the shear joy you get watching & listening to these phenomenally talented musicians.
Thank you brother, I hope all is well across the pond. ✌
Thanks for this I don’t understand why people think she’s fake and the video been messed with. All I can say is it must be jealousy.
Tina is so amazing and talented and so beautiful as well.
I have watched so many of Tina S analysis videos and this one is the best one. Seems like many of the people who are trying to analyze her playing are just standing with their mouths open without a clue of what to say. They just seem not qualified. Good job Wings of Pegasus.
Once again Phil, Great Job on the analysis of such a phenomenon, Tina. My 1st view of her and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears, the video couldn't even keep up!!! Thank-you!
Tina is pretty much a worldwide sensation because of this and other videos. Sadly, she dropped out of sight and this was the last video she posted on UA-cam. Seems she was getting quite a bit of flak as to whether or not she was actually playing these pieces, and she took it rather personally and actually set all her videos private for a while, but later set them to public again. Where she is, or what she's doing is a mystery, and I really really wish she would come back and assure her fans that she's OK, and just dealing with real life situations... so Tina, if you're out there sweetie, please leave a message on your channel. We miss you!!!😍🎼🎸 🤘😁🤘 *EDIT:* I'm amazed that some of the naysayers have actually followed her to here! If you people ever watched someone that is fairly young and plays bluegrass on whatever instrument (guitar, mandolin, fiddle, etc.), you will also notice a distinct lack of emotion because the style is so technically challenging, that every note counts, and you're generally too busy concentrating on 'getting it right', than smiling for the crowd. It goes away once you get older and more experienced, but never completely. Tina excelled at everything she played and posted to YT, and I think she deserves all the praise she can get... beautiful young lady, incredible technique, and sound to boot. Once again, great review Fil!! 😉👍👍
Yeah I hope it's not because of negative comments. UA-cam can be a nasty place, even with my relatively small channel I get some abuse. But I'm much older and I know how these things work, the haters are ALWAYS people with no music or videos of their own. When I call them out on it, they always go silent!
@@wingsofpegasus Very true. I believe most negative comments are out of jealousy probably from people who aren't even musicians. Yours is a wonderful, informative channel and from the vids, I have seen of you are a great musician. Basically an all round nice person
Musicians rarely, if ever, criticize because they've been there, done that.... Usually it's the mp'3 players that bitch and moan.....
Dil, I love how you carry yourself & how you don't respond in a rage, as do some.
You keep your channel friendly. Thank you so very much. Not sure how old you are, but it's possible I'm yr grandmother's age & I prefer an attitude of fairness & a lack of vulgarity, unless you catch your toe on the hearth or fall through the floor! (Having done both, I assure you, I turned the air blue.)
@@wingsofpegasus it is obvious, even to the irrelevant, that her technical proficiency is superior. I think that maybe she has stumbled into creativity issues. It is one thing to execute a Beethoven piece excellently, and another to write somthing on your own that you can be remembered for. If this is the case and Tina is reading this, I would humbly advise her not to give up. Music (art) is something you create first and foremost for your own pleasure. So, there you go. Let it all be out, and for heaven's sake, leave the comments of armchair critics aside.
I have a lot respect for her talent and dedication. Tina S played for 6 minutes? Wow
Hi Phil, I had commented to Tina and Connie Talbot before, that if they teamed up they would be an unstoppable force. Both just so incredibly talented and national treasures to their respective homelands.I use a thumb pick and could never transition to using a flat pick. I noticed Tina
using both flawlessly. By the way Phil your commentary is the best I've seen on Tina S. "Keep up the Great Work."
I'm a blues Player from Texas and I love Tina S.