When Metal Meets Beethoven: Classical Composer Reacts to Tina S. | The Daily Doug (Episode 354)

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  • #TinaS #MetalMonday #Beethoven #MetalBeethoven #WomensWeek
    In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm listening to a metal cover of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata (third movement). This classical piece, written in 1801, continues to find new life with each passing generation. Now, Beethoven meets the electric guitar in the capable hands of young Tina S. As a part of Women's Week here on the channel, I couldn't pass up an opportunity to feature Tina expertly playing the guitar. I hope you enjoy!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 842

  • @fnglert
    @fnglert 2 роки тому +324

    Many people underestimate how well Metal and Classical go together. I'm fully convinced that people like Tchaikovsky, Prokovief and Vivaldi would've been rock stars if they'd been alive today.

    • @leonardomedeiros669
      @leonardomedeiros669 2 роки тому +27

      Marche Slave by Tchaikovsky was the metal of its time - energetic, raw, brutal. The only difference is there was no amplification back in those days.

    • @MrTubularBalls
      @MrTubularBalls 2 роки тому +1

      @@leonardomedeiros669 Double bassdrums didn't exist either, and I don't think anybody was doing grunting or pigsqueals yet 😂

    • @csantana1971
      @csantana1971 2 роки тому +6

      They would be doing some Peogressive Metal for sure… or some Symphonic Metal or a mixturr of both

    • @IkmelAAA
      @IkmelAAA 2 роки тому +2

      Almost any music can be played on the guitar because it’s such a versatile instrument but it doesn’t mean that classical and metal/rock music in general are similar

    • @fnglert
      @fnglert 2 роки тому +6

      @@IkmelAAA Riiiiiiiiiight. That's why there's such a glut of metalbands incorporating classical elements. Because they're not similar whatsoever. And I'm Queen Elizabeth.

  • @renaudls
    @renaudls 2 роки тому +555

    hey Doug! thank you for having reacted to this video of my little protected Tina. I had the chance to teach her electric guitar from 13 to 18 years old, and also filmed and produced all these videos at that time in my studio. I must say that she never disappointed me, what a prodigy she was... a small precision concerning this version, it is an arrangement made by the incredible Italian guitarist, Michele "DrViossy" Vioni, who was kind enough to let us use his version. in any case, thank you for your various reaction videos that I watch very often! see ya. Renaud

    • @Frodojack
      @Frodojack 2 роки тому +87

      She needs to return to UA-cam and dazzle us with her brilliance. She's missed by millions.

    • @robertritchie2860
      @robertritchie2860 2 роки тому +60

      Hi Renaud, if possible some sort of update on how she is doing would be welcomed by many of us fans🙏

    • @alfaDude156
      @alfaDude156 2 роки тому +27

      I hope Tina is well and enjoy this "new" resurgency she's gotten with all these reactions on UA-cam.

    • @renaudls
      @renaudls 2 роки тому +45

      ​ @Robert Ritchie well unfortuntaley, I have no news from her for ages, as if she had disappeared from the planet

    • @AmarothEng
      @AmarothEng 2 роки тому +19

      @@Frodojack She disappeared and for a reason. Unless something terrible happened to her, it's very likely she chose to disappear as she probably didn't enjoy the fame and everything what comes with it, especially in the modern internet age. You may need to stop simping her so hard :P (that's a joke, don't take it personally).

  • @davidviteris
    @davidviteris 2 роки тому +43

    Tina S's cover of Steve Vai's "For the Love of God" is absolutely transcendent.

    • @PGGMusic
      @PGGMusic 2 роки тому

      Also try this: ua-cam.com/video/l5AQvPCPjwc/v-deo.html

  • @Phil-Paris-France
    @Phil-Paris-France 2 місяці тому +4

    TINA S 's TEACHER SAID : " hey Doug! thank you for having reacted to this video of my little protected Tina. I had the chance to teach her electric guitar from 13 to 18 years old, and also filmed and produced all these videos at that time in my studio. I must say that she never disappointed me, what a prodigy she was... a small precision concerning this version, it is an arrangement made by the incredible Italian guitarist, Michele "DrViossy" Vioni, who was kind enough to let us use his version. in any case, thank you for your various reaction videos that I watch very often! see ya." Renaud LOUIS-SERVAIS;

  • @Pewtah
    @Pewtah 2 роки тому +64

    Doug, about the dynamics: the technique she uses - known as "tapping" - needs amplification and high compression. So the dynamic range is very reduced, "every note has the same volume". You can not apply that on an acoustic guitar, that would be too soft. The magic of tapping is in the high speed you can play. Pieces like the 3rd movement of Moonlight fits perfectly to that.

    • @minaellysewarren2623
      @minaellysewarren2623 2 роки тому +19

      You absolutely can tap on an acoustic guitar -- see Michael Hedges, Jon Gomm, and tons of others.
      The difference in dynamics would generally be lacking in a piece that's just tapped out, though. The technique itself does provide more of a flat set of dynamics, at least on its own.
      However, there are plenty of other techniques and devices that could bring dynamics to any guitar piece -- a volume pedal (or use of a volume knob) would be an obvious choice, as would using clean and distorted tones, or varying the distortion, or changing picking techniques, or changing pickups...
      Pieces Doug has looked at, like Jason Becker's Air, which uses clean tones, still gets a few distinctive changes in dynamics between sections. Another would be Yngwie's Icarus Dream Suite Op. 3, although many of those changes are due to the instrumentation.

    • @babylemonade2868
      @babylemonade2868 2 роки тому +2

      Was going to mention Michael Hedges myself. He was amazing

    • @jimhardiman3836
      @jimhardiman3836 2 роки тому

      Wrong

    • @Spivonious
      @Spivonious 2 роки тому +1

      Joe Satriani - Midnight disagrees.

    • @MrTubularBalls
      @MrTubularBalls 2 роки тому +1

      Eddie van Halen recorded an acoustic tapping piece, cover by Paul Gilbert:
      ua-cam.com/video/_nqGGBcHH00/v-deo.html
      These are harmonic taps, and it's definitely softer than picking or plucking. But it's still doable.

  • @metalmark1214
    @metalmark1214 2 роки тому +97

    All of Tina's guitar covers have a combined total of 250 Million views. Other notables - For the Love of God, Through the Fire and Flames, Tornado of Souls, Comfortably Numb, Altitudes, The Loner, Eruption, Arpeggios From Hell

    • @andrewvaldez1710
      @andrewvaldez1710 2 роки тому +8

      Had me at Tornado of Souls. Gonna have to go check out her stuff now.

    • @andrejz8954
      @andrejz8954 2 роки тому +1

      Arpeggios*

    • @simonlesorcier
      @simonlesorcier Рік тому

      And Jason Becker's altitudes!

    • @metalmark1214
      @metalmark1214 Рік тому +2

      @@simonlesorcier yep, it's listed, great cover.

  • @32a34a
    @32a34a 2 роки тому +58

    Her version of Gary Moore's The Loner is pretty stunning. Just as beautiful as the original.

    • @joea7876
      @joea7876 2 роки тому +4

      I think Doug has yet to even do a Gary Moore piece....such a shame.

    • @32a34a
      @32a34a 2 роки тому +5

      @@joea7876 Tis is. Gary Moore's The Messiah Will Come Again live at the Montreux Jazz Festival
      in 1990 is easily one of the greatest guitar performances of all time. What he does with his 59
      Gibson Les Paul is just both pure magic and at times utter savagery. Just an epic epic video that
      can be seen on youtube.

    • @user_aikensc927
      @user_aikensc927 2 роки тому +2

      @@joea7876 Gary Moore was so overlooked by some. I'll never forget him doing "The Thrill Is Gone" with B.B. !! You could tell that Gary idolized him. He was awesome, may he RIP. ✌👍

    • @joea7876
      @joea7876 2 роки тому

      @@user_aikensc927 I was lucky enough to see Gary on the "Victims of the Future" tour back in 1983 from three rows back with Neil Carter, Bob Daisley, Neil Murray, and Ian Paice on drums, and Gary and the band was absolutely on FIRE at L'Amour in Brooklyn. He was absolutely brilliant and brutal and mind-melting on that album. Such a shame he isn't more appreciated by all....Doug should really pick something and go for it...

    • @richardurwin4432
      @richardurwin4432 Рік тому

      I watched them back to back and I prefer her version. I think she has more expression.

  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis 2 роки тому +17

    Tina S is a freak of nature. Mastered the guitar at 17 years old.
    Check out: LOVEBITES "Frozen Serenade" ( Live in Tokyo 2021 )

    • @onetymebigtyme
      @onetymebigtyme 2 роки тому +2

      yes
      Lovebites-
      Frozen serenade
      Edge of the world
      or Swan Song

  • @metalmark1214
    @metalmark1214 2 роки тому +77

    Thanks for doing my request Doug. Pretty phenomenal. Thanks for all the technical background. I discovered her back in 2016. Blew my mind.

    • @powerslave7876
      @powerslave7876 2 роки тому +4

      Nice request Mark, I keep waiting for Fates Warning since December.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks as always for your support of the channel, Mark!

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 2 роки тому

      @@Doug.Helvering Doug you should check out Max Ostro.
      He is a mix of Joe Satriani and Steve Vai. He is another young guitar prodigy. Great work on your channel.

    • @TheCkhutton12
      @TheCkhutton12 2 роки тому

      Tina is great but the transcription was made by Dr. Viossy on UA-cam. He does an even stellar job with the play through.

    • @jimhardiman3836
      @jimhardiman3836 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheCkhutton12 He's an old man. She's a teenager.

  • @gosmo4504
    @gosmo4504 2 роки тому +33

    I remember when I first saw her do "For The Love of God" by Vai. Wonderful talent

    • @lukaszp.3134
      @lukaszp.3134 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, I'm ('ve been?) still in shock listening "Tender Surrender". Huge talent!

    • @gosmo4504
      @gosmo4504 2 роки тому +1

      @@lukaszp.3134 No points for grammer or spelling You're good. I agree 100%

    • @jan-assarlaine8312
      @jan-assarlaine8312 Рік тому

      First time I heard it, sometime when it aired on MTV in the 90's, I was moved to tears because it was so beautiful.

  • @fredyair1
    @fredyair1 2 роки тому +7

    Beethoven was a Metalhead, the opening of the 5th Symphony is the first great metal riff in history.

  • @Alice-ic5fy
    @Alice-ic5fy 2 роки тому +9

    Tina's cover of Steve Vai , for the love of God, shows her impeccable skills on the weary bar, timing and precision. It's a must see reaction. This is why she was considered one of the world's best at age 15

  • @rhodrimorgan8386
    @rhodrimorgan8386 2 роки тому +10

    Holy f*ckballs!!! Absolutely loved that.
    Also having played guitar for near 20 years, how humbling. What a player. The dedication to nail it that cleanly is mind-blowing

  • @sagitt1856
    @sagitt1856 2 роки тому +11

    No! No! No! It's impossible. WOW! What a great transposition. What a great performance. Fluid play, touch without brutality. And did you see how fast she hits the strings? Breathtaking. She comes from another world! Yngwie is in trouble. Thank you Mark. Thank you, Master Helvering.

    • @JPR17
      @JPR17 8 місяців тому +2

      Listen to aliceimusic. She really puts Yngwie in trouble.

  • @shanebilowitz7261
    @shanebilowitz7261 2 роки тому +16

    Beethoven really shook things up. He was all like, "oh I'm supposed to put a recapitulation of theme A here? Nah. I'm gonna put an oboe cadenza here instead."

    • @sianpodmore4988
      @sianpodmore4988 2 роки тому +1

      Beethoven would have been totally up for metal if he'd had the machinery available

    • @Alewifes_Husband
      @Alewifes_Husband 2 роки тому

      @@sianpodmore4988 I can only imagine the first or second movements of Symphony #9 as Metal. That'd be astounding. Someone should, and probably already has, produced such thing :-)

    • @richardurwin4432
      @richardurwin4432 Рік тому

      @@sianpodmore4988 I've seen an analysis of Ode to Joy that says the violin comes in as it is closest to the human voice. The electric guitar beats a violin at that, every single time.

  • @lowdz68
    @lowdz68 2 роки тому +35

    Doug, you really must give Uli Jon Roth a try - he was the guitarist in Scorpions in the 70s when they were very experimental. He very much influenced Yngwie and he plays several classical pieces live, including the Four Seasons.

    • @ralfwegner917
      @ralfwegner917 Рік тому +1

      and there was Michael Schenker from Germany who played for UFO

  • @j.scottgallagher8391
    @j.scottgallagher8391 2 роки тому +9

    Japan's Lovebites "Winds of Transylvania" utilizes Beethoven's 5th. A must listen. All female heavy metal band.

  • @juliem6696
    @juliem6696 2 роки тому +17

    She's amazing. Her rendition of Steve Vai's For the Love of God is absolutely mind blowing. Btw, please do Pink Floyd Comfortably Numb.

  • @DarthMordax
    @DarthMordax 8 місяців тому +3

    Usually this piece represents one of the highest levels of technicality, precision, and endurance that most musicians strive to achieve on their respective instruments whenever the attempt is made to learn it. What I've always loved about Tina S's cover is how she looks almost bored while playing it, like it's too easy for her 🤣
    Absolute LEGEND.

  • @Plymouth888
    @Plymouth888 2 роки тому +15

    Just love the electric Guitar set in a classic position on the knee (with a foot stool no doubt). The left hand is like a dancing spider 👏👏

    • @gosmo4504
      @gosmo4504 2 роки тому +1

      Im trying to imagine doing that then the guitars just go back on the rack.

    • @Nako6009
      @Nako6009 2 роки тому +1

      It's actually pretty comfy but you need a foot stool so it's not always practical lol

    • @allancerf9038
      @allancerf9038 11 місяців тому

      Bravo Robert. I noticed it immediately. You and I are apparently the only two who seem to have noticed.

  • @angelomoshopoulos4369
    @angelomoshopoulos4369 2 роки тому +23

    This was amazing playing by Tina.
    Dr. Viossy's version is great also.
    She plays an incredible Yngwie also. Your analysis of the 3rd movement was incredible also. A lot of insight into Beethoven. Doug. It would be nice if you could include Rachel Flowers in the future either her playing ELP on organ or piano or Frank Zappa on guitar live with his son. Thanks

    • @robertodamico8081
      @robertodamico8081 2 роки тому +2

      I think Dr. Viossy's better. Much more cleaner.

    • @phungyi4947
      @phungyi4947 2 роки тому +3

      @@robertodamico8081 I have nothing against Tina S, she's clearly got it down.
      However, it really grates me that Dr Viossy (who's backing track she uses) never gets
      the recognition he deserves for being the original arranger and interpretation of this master piece.
      I also prefer Viossy's version as it does have better nuance.

    • @Sarklord
      @Sarklord 2 роки тому +2

      @@robertodamico8081 I was gonna comment on that too. Not only Dr. Viossy's version is cleaner, it was posted 5 years before Tina's video.
      His cover is the gold standard.
      The fact that his video has almost half the views of Tina with only 1 / 10 of the subs she has is a clear indication of which cover is .....the one.

    • @angelomoshopoulos4369
      @angelomoshopoulos4369 2 роки тому +2

      @@robertodamico8081 I think so also although both are impressive. It's also a weird guitar shape that Dr. Viossy plays with.

    • @petersilver4281
      @petersilver4281 2 роки тому

      I mean, she is literally cited Dr. Viossy...

  • @antoniocarlin5026
    @antoniocarlin5026 2 роки тому +12

    Yngwie Malmsteen and Ritchie Blackmore Plays Beethoven too!!! on guitar.... and on Piano: Rick Wakeman with his Beethoven Pathetique

    • @johngrenier3265
      @johngrenier3265 2 роки тому

      yngwie came to my mind too..... i also believe tso made an entire concept album based on beethovens last night on earth , as a kind of pop metal take

    • @antoniocarlin5026
      @antoniocarlin5026 2 роки тому +1

      @@johngrenier3265 Transiberian Orchestra made a concept album about Beethoven....

    • @antoniocarlin5026
      @antoniocarlin5026 2 роки тому +1

      @@johngrenier3265 Yes! the tso...but I think is a Christmas album... Jon Lord plays a beautiful version from Fur Elisa

    • @AJ_NL_1963
      @AJ_NL_1963 2 роки тому

      And Jon Lord has been influenced by Bach al lot. Metal and classical music are close to each other.
      It was my introduction to classical music.
      Concerto for Group and Orchestra is my first lp. And al if these releases are most important items in my huge collection

  • @47.000
    @47.000 2 роки тому +4

    This version, this entire piece, this guitar playing is the most furious of them all. I've watched this over a million times. Tina we miss you all. Love 💞

  • @dereks1264
    @dereks1264 Місяць тому +1

    I love the "what the hell is happening" look on people's faces the first time they experience her playing. She started learning classical guitar at age six (which you can tell by how she holds the guitar in this vid). She was 17 when this was recorded. I love her little smile at the end, where it looks like she didn’t even break a sweat, as if she's saying: "And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how it's done". Crazy tapping, hammer ons, pulloffs, bends, harmonics and mad flat picking. Ya gotta wonder what Ludwig would say if he came back and watched this. Aside from everything else, this is a master class in guitar techniques. I tried tapping along, to the bits where she is tapping, just trying to match the rhythm and not even trying to land on the strings and failed miserably. I think I'll take up the tuba.

  • @danwiesdamageinc
    @danwiesdamageinc 2 роки тому +8

    This was the last video Tina s. uploaded. It's like she said "I win" and went home with her trophy.
    If you're doing a female musicians week, you need look no further than Japan. I don't know what they're doing over there, but it's working.

    • @Wagoo
      @Wagoo 2 роки тому +1

      It's mad.. and sad. She reminds me of Marty Friedman and Jason Becker when they were kids effortlessly soloing in Cacophony.. but.. come on Tina.. we need you in our world!

  • @mrtnsnp
    @mrtnsnp 2 роки тому +5

    There is a recording by Dr. Viossy of the same piece. I think he (or his band) recorded the backing track.

    • @torretennine8080
      @torretennine8080 2 роки тому +3

      Here link to original version by Dr. Viossy
      ua-cam.com/video/MZuSaudKc68/v-deo.html

  • @RedLP5000S
    @RedLP5000S 2 роки тому +5

    She needs to be signed up like now. She would fit in a symphonic power Metal band perfectly. 🤘🏻 Tina can show Yngwie how it's done.

  • @Ando2k10
    @Ando2k10 2 роки тому +7

    Dr. Viossy created this arrangement, and his version has a bit more of the dynamics that you were talking about this version missing. You would like his channel, I think, because he has a lot of classical pieces arranged for guitar...Mozart, Bach, and many others.

  • @BrindleChase
    @BrindleChase 2 роки тому +7

    Tina S does Dr Viossy's arrangement with supreme skill! If you get the chance, check out Dr. Viossy's rendition and you'll see just how well she did!

  • @stevebury6560
    @stevebury6560 2 роки тому +5

    Tina was 17 when this was recorded.

  • @ProspectorAl
    @ProspectorAl Рік тому +5

    Beethoven would love it!

  • @kjc9trader491
    @kjc9trader491 2 роки тому +6

    Beethoven absolutely is "Metal" ~ as it was - back then ~ His music at the time was groundbreaking... Very much "Harder" than most anything else being produced at the time...

  • @trailrunner919
    @trailrunner919 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah man, Tina S was in my recommended vids back in 2016 playing Altitudes and was blown away by her technical ability at such a young age...Brilliant!!!

  • @stevenhopwood8195
    @stevenhopwood8195 2 роки тому +8

    Certainly an amazing guitar player. I wonder what Beethoven would have thought of this. Fantastic is what I think. ❤️🤘🎸🇦🇺

    • @matthiaskern5899
      @matthiaskern5899 2 роки тому +1

      I guess he would have hated it. Incedible playing but no feeling for the music itself. Makes no sense at all.

    • @nellgwenn
      @nellgwenn 2 роки тому +1

      It depends on how old he was.

    • @stevenhopwood8195
      @stevenhopwood8195 2 роки тому

      @@cinejourneys 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @nellgwenn
      @nellgwenn 2 роки тому

      @@cinejourneys What I mean is, he would have had to have heard it before he went deaf.

    • @MsKeylas
      @MsKeylas Рік тому

      @@matthiaskern5899 no feeling for music? Are you on crack or something? Just because she doesn't show emotions in a flashy way, doesn't mean that she doesn't ''FEEL the music'' . She does, and it is obvious. She is ''in the zone'' where everything disappears besides music she plays. In essence your comment is very rude and ignorant

  • @Pugwash.
    @Pugwash. 2 роки тому +1

    It's a good job we had you to talk us through this one Doug, because I wasn't sure what was happening. My fingers hurt just watching.

  • @0ParisFrance
    @0ParisFrance Рік тому +1

    In this page : Renaud LS (Tina S's teacher Renaud LOUIS-SERVAIS) comments :
    "hey Doug! thank you for having reacted to this video of my little protected Tina. I had the chance to teach her electric guitar from 13 to 18 years old, and also filmed and produced all these videos at that time in my studio. I must say that she never disappointed me, what a prodigy she was... a small precision concerning this version, it is an arrangement made by the incredible Italian guitarist, Michele "DrViossy" Vioni, who was kind enough to let us use his version. in any case, thank you for your various reaction videos that I watch very often! see ya." Renaud

    • @sastaffa
      @sastaffa Рік тому

      whatever happened to her? is she ever coming back? she is greatly missed by over 40 mil people.....

  • @irenegade164
    @irenegade164 Рік тому +1

    KILLER!
    She doesn't even look at the fretboard. She is the personification of the adage 'don't practice until you get it right - practice until you CAN'T get it wrong!'

  • @jah9253
    @jah9253 2 роки тому +2

    I'm a classically trained pianist and my favorite Beetoveen sonatas to play are all 3 movements of Moonlight, Pathetique, and Waldstein. Moonlight 3rd movement is a fun one to play, it's challenging to play but not as difficult as say the 3rd movement of Waldstein. I will say that the piece gets physically hard to play towards the end when I haven't been practicing it much. It certainly requires endurance.

  • @ericdepagne
    @ericdepagne 2 роки тому

    Thanks Doug. Great analysis, as usual, with lots of little details that make all the difference.

  • @magedogtag
    @magedogtag 2 місяці тому +5

    Face it man, Beethoven was writing heavy metal guitar solos almost his whole life. 😂

  • @AmatureAstronomer
    @AmatureAstronomer 2 роки тому +3

    The first movement is my favorite song of all time. I find this performance of the 3rd movement impressive.

  • @johnhawkins_twa
    @johnhawkins_twa 2 роки тому +2

    Doug, I was one of the many that asked you to react to this. Loved your analysis. I believe her teacher included the backing track to help the audience know that she's keeping a steady tempo throughout. You'll also notice that she doesn't look at the fret board very often. If you want to see/hear her covers that have a lot more feel/emotion in them I would suggest For the Love of God, The Loner, and Altitudes. If I remember correctly you reacted to Steve Vai performing For the Love of God. I believe you will enjoy Tina's version. She adds her own style to it so its not a note for note cover. If you choose to not react to Tina anymore, I hope you watch her covers for your own enjoyment. I just realized that even though I've been watching your reactions for awhile now, I haven't subscribed. I have taken care of that issue. Subscribed. Let's get you pass the 200k mark.

  • @tracycecil8010
    @tracycecil8010 2 роки тому +1

    Another great reaction Doug! This girl is unbelievable!

  • @herrroy4963
    @herrroy4963 2 роки тому +6

    She's absolutely amazing. That talent are very unique. I too wonder so much what happened to her.

    • @MsKeylas
      @MsKeylas Рік тому

      She is just focused on her studies in university

    • @KenFarnham
      @KenFarnham Рік тому +1

      She likes to play guitar but she didn't want to be a full time musician. She went to university. She will probably be professional in some science and keep guitar as a hobby/party trick.

    • @MsKeylas
      @MsKeylas Рік тому

      @@KenFarnham She studies in Law Degree area, at least from what I heard. And if she puts same focus and dedication into her studies as in her guitar skills it is no wonder that she has no time for making/posting videos. Plus people who complain that even while studying she should have time to make videos forget that she needs time also to have normal. teenager/young woman life which takes a lot of time

    • @allancerf9038
      @allancerf9038 11 місяців тому

      @@MsKeylas She reappeared last night.

  • @mooncritter721
    @mooncritter721 5 місяців тому +1

    That is so hard to do on guitar. I have been riffing for over 40 + yrs and this is amazing to me. She was wired for music at birth. She is only 17! I am 62 AND I COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THIS NO MATTER HOW MUCH I PRACTICE! I can play some Becker and some Malmsteen but BEETHOVEN? No way!

  • @petersilver4281
    @petersilver4281 2 роки тому +2

    I remember I brought this one up a while ago - glad you got to it, even if someone else pointed you to it!

  • @thebones
    @thebones 2 роки тому +2

    I was gobsmacked the first time that I heard this. I thought 'how can this be done?' Well it has been and it's brilliant - she is. I see that the first inversion of the flat II 'Neapolitan' chord has the same effect on you Doug as it does on me! Such a dirty chord.

  • @SobrietyandSolace
    @SobrietyandSolace Рік тому

    This is the kind of music I live for, I can’t think of anything more up my alley, honestly

  • @BogeyCDogRosey
    @BogeyCDogRosey 2 роки тому +2

    What I also love about LVB is his big, dissonant chords.

  • @fritsanjafa386
    @fritsanjafa386 2 роки тому +1

    Talking about Beethoven:
    In the late 60-ties, early 70-ties in the Netherlands there was a band called EKSEPTION.
    They had a big hit with a piece called "The 5th" , which was their 'version' of the first movement of Beethovens 5th symphony (obviously...). Their leader was Rick van der Linden (more or less the Dutch Keith Emerson). After that they also arranged a couple of pieces by J.S. Bach.
    Maybe, Doug, you could have a listen, just for fun...

  • @cecilethie9412
    @cecilethie9412 2 роки тому +4

    Wonderful! It reminds me a french guitarist, Patrick Rondat, same virtuosity with Vivaldi, amazing!

    • @One_Proud_Papa
      @One_Proud_Papa 2 роки тому +2

      BTW, Tina S is also French. So, maybe she was influenced by him.

    • @cecilethie9412
      @cecilethie9412 2 роки тому

      @@One_Proud_Papa thanks for the info! Yes, who knows :)

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance 2 роки тому +3

      Le professeur de Tina est un ami de Patrick Rondat, ils font des master class ensemble.
      Tina's teacher is a friend of Patrick Rondat, they do master classes together.

    • @cecilethie9412
      @cecilethie9412 2 роки тому +1

      @@0ParisFrance la boucle est bouclée ! Merci pour l'info !

  • @kkampy4052
    @kkampy4052 Рік тому

    I've watched this several times, gives me goosebumps every time. Catch the "Mona Lisa" smile at the end.

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance Рік тому

      Tina smiles 7 times in this video.

  • @vampjager8586
    @vampjager8586 2 роки тому +1

    Doug: It's a C sharp minor into a minor back.
    Me with zero musical experience: Ahh I see of course it is.

  • @bobr4987
    @bobr4987 2 роки тому

    I found your educated breakdown of Beethoven & Tina's work extremely fascinating. Thank You for that!
    Tina also covers Vivaldi's "Four Seasons: Summer".

  • @jimwilson5148
    @jimwilson5148 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for doing this one! I had never heard this amazing performance before. If I can make a suggestion for something for you to listen to (not necessarily as a reaction video, but just because I think you would really enjoy it) is Blues in Elf by the Don Ellis Orchestra off his Tears of Joy album. The beginning of the piece is a version for the first movement of this, but in 3 2/3 / 4 time. It also features a string quartet, a great sax soli, and a solo on quarter tone trumpet.

  • @caesarflickerman9880
    @caesarflickerman9880 2 роки тому

    Thank you for such a wonderful explanation. Your segment on "ABA" made it easier to understand.

  • @SobrietyandSolace
    @SobrietyandSolace Рік тому +1

    The ‘Banya’ track ‘Moonlight’ produced for the rhythm game Pump it Up is also based on this movement but the main melody is altered quite a lot. They have a lot of EDM classical remixes

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance Рік тому

      The 1st movement of the Moonlight Sonata inspired John Lennon to write the track BECAUSE on the Abbey Road album.

  • @ickelpete
    @ickelpete 2 роки тому

    OMG that impressive!!! what an amazing talent.

  • @robocopvn
    @robocopvn Рік тому +2

    we must give the credit to Dr.Viossy. He the one who arranges it!

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance Рік тому

      TINA S's teacher Renaud Louis-Servais comment 16/3/2022 on this page : "thank you Doug for having reacted to this video of my little protected Tina. I had the chance to teach her electric guitar from 13 to 18 years old, and also filmed and produced all these videos at that time in my studio. I must say that she never disappointed me, what a prodigy she was... a small precision concerning this version, it is an arrangement made by the incredible Italian guitarist, Michele "DrViossy" Vioni, who was kind enough to let us use his version. in any case, thank you for your various reaction."
      "I made her work on a lot of pieces, but only a part was the subject of videos. On the other hand, everything that has been filmed is online."
      Renaud

  • @germantoenglish898
    @germantoenglish898 2 роки тому +4

    Just waiting for a phone box to land and Bill and Ted to jump out.

  • @alfaDude156
    @alfaDude156 2 роки тому +2

    I love Tinas rendition of The Third Movement here, it is true to the original at the same time as it is pure metal.
    I recently went down the rabbit hole of UA-cam following the history of, and Who Began, Heavy Metal. Lot of debate between Black Sabbat and Judas Priest. Someone thow in some other bands and songs. "You Really Got Me" is the first song blah, blah, blah. I can only watch the selfproclaimed experts while shaking my head.
    Yea, Metal is a bit older then that, they just didn't have electrical guitars and distortion back then.

  • @VoIcanoman
    @VoIcanoman 2 роки тому +1

    Been a huge fan of Tina for years (I discovered her in...2018 I think), and this is one of her best performances. I've always said, if Beethoven were composing today, he'd be a metalhead of the highest order. It is fun to speculate as to what a talent like that would do with modern influences and technology (as for the instruments themselves, I think these would be pretty familiar to ol' Ludwig). I expect his band would be some vein of progressive deathcore, with midrange harsh vocals and off-the-charts technical virtuosity. But that's just a guess.

  • @MrBluehash1
    @MrBluehash1 9 місяців тому +1

    She is back again: SpinTwice❤

  • @peterhorne7203
    @peterhorne7203 5 місяців тому

    Doug, I'm a year late on responding to this but I wanted you to know that you have validated Tina's talent and debunked all of her haters at the same time.
    Nobody should spend 3 to 6 years practicing a piece like this to perfect it just to have a bunch of hacks dump on her.
    Thanks for this really honest and professional reaction 👍👍

    • @peterhorne7203
      @peterhorne7203 5 місяців тому

      Doug, I am so happy to come across your reactions.
      It is so refreshing to watch your reaction videos compared to most of the ones where people are just making fake facial expressions about what they are seeing or hearing and most often have no idea of what they are into.
      Please keep on doing your thing!

    • @peterhorne7203
      @peterhorne7203 5 місяців тому

      Any chance of you doing a reaction to Marcin Patrzalek performing his version of Moon light Sonata?

  • @peterzuehlke3636
    @peterzuehlke3636 2 роки тому

    Tina S is an amazing guitarist! To answer your question about dynamics on an electric guitar, you can roll the volume knob on the guitar. However, with this tempo, it would be more practical to employ a volume pedal (like the swell pedal on an organ).

  • @deadsightsx
    @deadsightsx 2 роки тому

    OMG! Tina S! how fun that you reviewed this one!

  • @pauloakley2124
    @pauloakley2124 2 роки тому +2

    Its like the Left Hand has 6 fingers ! 🤣🤣😳👌👍

  • @psionic6126
    @psionic6126 2 роки тому +3

    Hey Doug. Glad to see you discovered her. I would highly recommend "Max Ostro" when it comes to young talents. He got signed at JTC Guitar and you should listen his Jazz/Groove kinda stuff. That kid really leaves me speechless man.

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 2 роки тому +1

      I just asked Doug to check Max out in a different thread.
      Max is a mix of Vai and Satriani...
      Glad to see others know of Ostro's talent..

    • @psionic6126
      @psionic6126 2 роки тому

      @@old_man_with_cane3407 I was able to see Max live. Well, i wouldn't say he's a Vai/Satriani kinda player. He's got the whole package man. What can he actually play? : Yngwie Malmsteem, Vai, Satriani, Michael Romeo. He played them at the age of 15!! Now he is playing Guthrie Govan stuff and i don't need to tell everybody how difficult Guthrie's stuff is. But what really stands out to me, is his own music. Songs like "Promenade, or Joker, Groove on, are just pure magic mate.

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 2 роки тому

      @@psionic6126 i have heard all those pieces you mentioned by max.
      I have not seen him live yet. I have seen Satch and Vai numerous times as well as others. Max's groove and fluid movements are what remind me of Satch and Vai combined...
      Have a good one...

  • @mvanheden
    @mvanheden 2 роки тому +9

    You must listen to Tina when she play Yngwe Malmsteen and Dream Theaters Best of times. Her technique is just amazing.

  • @fespa
    @fespa 2 роки тому +1

    For a Metal Monday (Moon day) it was only fitting to have a Moonlight sonata. Great vid. Thanks.

  • @brucebowling6032
    @brucebowling6032 2 роки тому +2

    Tina S truly shreds, as does Lisa X. Young female guitarists who rock are always interesting. I wish I had half of their talent! I wish he did one of her originals. Does she have some? I only know her from covers. Doug already knows the piece, but her rendition is awesome! He could have shredders every day, but technique does not necessarily imply quality. Michael Batio is stupidly talented, but much of his music is an example of how fast he can play.

  • @jeffersoncosgrove1910
    @jeffersoncosgrove1910 Рік тому

    Love the choice to give the second theme a "half time" feel on the drums the first run through before going back to the more typical 2 and 4 on the backbeat as it repeats.

  • @matteogiberti3297
    @matteogiberti3297 2 роки тому

    Dr. Viossy (a.k.a. Michele Vioni) is an italian guitarist I've seen live many times with the band Mr. Pig and had a chat with Him a couple of times. On UA-cam there's his version of this piece of music and videos of his band which features as a singer the great Michele Luppi known also to be keyboard player in Whitesnake.

  • @ditmavic
    @ditmavic 2 роки тому

    Wow, that was amazing! Reminds me a bit of Yngwie J Malmsteen, he was another for electrifying classical pieces.

  • @Metal_Auditor
    @Metal_Auditor 2 роки тому +2

    I would recommend looking at Dr. Viossi’s video of this. It’s his arrangement, as she indicates in her video description.

  • @paulg-sg
    @paulg-sg 2 роки тому +3

    Fantastic Doug. I hope you will get to experience some Lovebites this week; I am sure you will totally geek out how they compose metal with classical sensibilities (& chops), not just metal covers of classical pieces. Recommended tracks that really highlight this: Edge of the World; Swan Song; Glory to the World.

    • @One808
      @One808 Рік тому

      A Frozen Serenade would have fit the bill too.

  • @ss_avsmt
    @ss_avsmt 2 роки тому

    Julliette V has some very original work in her albums. They're available on Bandcamp.

  • @torineg.847
    @torineg.847 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Doug ! I just heard this an hour ago and totally mesmerizing, I couldn't look away. What I noticed also is no expressions as she plays, like yup i do this in my sleep.
    Imagine Tina and Yngwie Malmsteen jam !
    Thanks for your videos doug !
    PS: Listen to Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement) - Cover Ft. Cole Rolland... There are some amazing guitar players no one's ever heard of.

    • @yogajedi3337
      @yogajedi3337 2 роки тому

      Yes, it's so obvious. She's just blasting out notes as written with no dynamics and understanding. Compare the original and other covers. But she's young and cute and that is more impressive for most fans.

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance 2 роки тому

      - You watched the video wrong, because Tina has a lot of expressions and she smiles... 7 TIMES in this video !!

  • @fredandpattychandler4130
    @fredandpattychandler4130 2 роки тому +2

    Definitely check out Uli Jon Roth's Symphony and on 7 string 36 fretted electric guitar. Incredibly well done. And a true innovator.

  • @zzuave2666
    @zzuave2666 2 роки тому +1

    A natural follow on from this would be Uli Jon Roth's Metamorphosis, his take on the entire Four Seasons with his electric 'Sky guitar'.

  • @matseriksson8177
    @matseriksson8177 2 роки тому +4

    Here's another woman, HIROMI UEHARA, playing an interesting and creative interpretation of the famous second movement
    of the LvB "Pathétique" Piano Sonata No 8 in C minor Opus 13:
    ua-cam.com/video/rCp3qGzkxig/v-deo.html

  • @nerdity275
    @nerdity275 2 роки тому +1

    Looks pretty relaxed too, definitely not her limit. If anyone would like some acoustic guitar magic, try Lucas Imbiriba - Sultans of Swing, beautiful arrangement and max. difficulty level.

    • @Psychprogrock
      @Psychprogrock 2 роки тому +1

      It's amusing to see the side-by-side comparison of Yngwie and her playing "Arpeggios form Hell" and notice who hits the limit. Spoiler: it's not Tina.

  • @chriss-nf1bd
    @chriss-nf1bd Рік тому +1

    On top of all this she makes it look so easy...

  • @hansmercier2809
    @hansmercier2809 2 роки тому

    Very impressive child virtuoso. Very happy you visited this. I believe she was only 17 at the time. Magical.

  • @robertakerman3570
    @robertakerman3570 2 роки тому

    I've heard of: 1)tickling the ivories 2)classical "Guitar" now, 3) welcome to Tina S World Wow!

  • @illegalquantity
    @illegalquantity 2 місяці тому

    Loved your reaction! It might not be perfect, but it's her cover, a huge talent's, and damn good to watch and listen to!

  • @davidsleith7222
    @davidsleith7222 2 роки тому +1

    Cheers for the react and break down - i know what she is doing, i just can't get my fingers to move that quick. her slides during her tapping is crazy good. Steve vai will always be my #1 guitarist, but Tina? dang girl.. best o luck in all ye do.

  • @drewrosecrans9728
    @drewrosecrans9728 Рік тому +1

    Nobody can touch Tina s 🤘🤘🎸💯

  • @micknordstrom2591
    @micknordstrom2591 9 місяців тому

    Totally amazing!

  • @MartijnHover
    @MartijnHover 2 роки тому +1

    The wonderful thing is that at your regular metal volume even Beethoven would probably have been able to hear it. :-)

  • @josephbishop3590
    @josephbishop3590 2 роки тому

    Thanks Doug! Tina is a great cover artist. Very technical. And her cover of Steve Vai’s FOR THE LOVE OF GOD is sensational.
    If you enjoyed Tina S, you’ll love Sophie Lloyd! Sophie is a great original artist as well as a good cover artist.

  • @SylviusTheMad
    @SylviusTheMad 2 роки тому

    Dr. Viossy is an online guitar teacher. On his UA-cam channel he has an impressive metal guitar version of Paganini's Caprice 24.

  • @katesjanice
    @katesjanice 2 роки тому

    My fav band is 70s Kansas. Kerry Livgren on lead guitar, piano, synth, mellotron, etc. wrote all of the wonderful prog songs that are so fabulous. He never took music lessons, can't read or write music, but grew up from the crib listening to classical music, particularly the romantic era. And it has spilled over into his songwriting. In my opinion, he is the finest rock composer, orchestrator, lyricist, and multi instrumentalist ever. You really must listen to their first 8 albums. It's absolutely easy to hear which songs were written by Kerry and which by Steve Walsh. This was a remarkable live band - all 6 members great musicians and so tight!
    Play Kansas please!! Journey to Mariabronn, Belexes, Icarus Borne on Wings of Steel, The Pinnacle, Song for America, Lamplight Symphony, Incomudro, the entire Leftoverture album, Dust in the Wind, Hopelessly Human, Relentless, Hold On, Curtain of Iron, Crossfire. All great Livgren songs. It's no wonder that he is known as "the Maestro".
    Love your channel!

  • @jan-ovepedersen5764
    @jan-ovepedersen5764 2 роки тому

    She plays Vigier Excalibur Custom guitars, she was endorsed by this French Guitar Maker and was on their artist list 5 yrs ago, she is not listed anymore. Anyway they make amazing instruments :-)

  • @keythinwatford7153
    @keythinwatford7153 2 роки тому

    A great choice. On the same lines I would like to recommend Dave Edmunds & Love Sculpture's version of Sabre Dance by Khachaturian dating from 1968.

  • @jeannettesimpson9778
    @jeannettesimpson9778 2 роки тому +3

    Carl Orff's "O Fortuna" is definitely metal.

    • @2760ade
      @2760ade Рік тому

      Agreed! A lot of classical music is essentially metal, it has the same passion. That's why I personally love both equally!

  • @sontinos528
    @sontinos528 Рік тому +1

    fuck the nuances, this is masterclass.

  • @ervinnagy2938
    @ervinnagy2938 Рік тому +1

    Wow. First opinion from someone with solid music background knowledge for me.. Thank you for sharing your opinion! Indeed, she 's out of this world (btw: Tina S and Valentina Lisitsa are my favorite players: question is: do we have their time to practice all that they learn) :)
    In fact, as a guitar and piano player, I felt that I am a beginner in music industry, and all I have to do is to thank them for sharing their achievements / knowledge to us. When I heard them playing (guitar / piano) I felt EXACTLY the feelings of composer.... It's not quite easy to play temper some notes with electric guitar but the way she's doing that is .... well ... no comment (she's well miles away above me (and I assume US), so I choose to keep quiet an listen)

    • @pedrocardenas7827
      @pedrocardenas7827 Рік тому

      Valentina y Tina 2 virtuosos de nuestra época que si hubieran nacido siglos atrás serian estrellas inconmensurables---

  • @dalejohnson2638
    @dalejohnson2638 2 роки тому +4

    She did several songs but sadly I haven’t seen anything from her in a while

    • @ManWithoutThePants
      @ManWithoutThePants 2 роки тому +2

      She apparently doesn't play guitar anymore or at least not professionally. I don't remember what she was doing as her main profession, but maybe she just shreds at the evenings for relaxation :)

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance 2 роки тому

      @@ManWithoutThePants Hahaha at 14 she was a schoolgirl !!

  • @gambledw
    @gambledw 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for all the background. Have heard many reactions to this but first time to hear the background of the composition. Not a guitar expert but I think electric guitar has limited dynamic range on volume.

    • @talaniel
      @talaniel 2 роки тому

      I do not think guitar has that much of a dynamics problem - depends on the force/speed you strike strings with + there is a volume knob :-)