@@buihoanglong6053 people really thought that Shiori is going to be the brooding, above it all type but she turns out to be a dork. Many thought Fauna is going to be the seiso persil white but turns out she's quite loaded with cursed knowledge.
It's funny how the more you listen to them, the more you realize how different their tastes are but because both of them are the compromising type, they can still somehow keep going HAHAHAHA It's like I'm watching a dysfunctional couple who's somehow still together and it's extremely fun.
Applaud to both of them though. It is hard to keep an interesting conversation going and entertaining an audience while having different interest/opinion.
They also show they can at least meet halfway on things, plus this is one conversation out of many they had during the stream, they could have possibly found some overlaps in taste as the stream went on.
@@majesticfox Strangely enough, it's the way they're trying to find a middle ground that is entertaining to watch. It's fun to see them suddenly go quiet after a topic, and one of them immediately starts a random topic.
Truthfully. When I've read fanfiction better than the real deal. Yeah I gotta admit. If I could go back in time I'm slapping 10 year old me for thinking the pirate anime and bleach weren't cool. At least I've heard more positive comments in the last few years.
Fauna is the goth that "stopped" being goth. Shiori is the goth that is still goth... Technically in terms of stages, fauna is more advanced than shiori. You don't stop being goth btw, you just hide it better... Letting it boil under the surface, concentrating it, becoming... Stronger.
I do feel like shiori held back her actual knowledge of naruto With how much she reads / age ain’t no way she did not read it when it came out But her saying that the cutoff point is when he tries to kill you was pretty funny XD
I think Fauna just like the character, but never really watch/read Naruto (she already admittedit in some clipped I watched) .. So, yeah, as character itself, SasuSaku looks cool and cute.
To be fair to Sasuke, Masashi basically threw him from wherever he wanted him to wherevere he wanted him to be for the next plotpoint to be smooth and easy to get to. You have to actually think of the scenario from his frame of mind, development, and personality for a lot of his back and forths to make sense more than you do with characters like Naruto, and I sometimes wonder if that's more a reflection on him maybe feeling a bit spiteful toward the character he didn't even originally have in the story, or wanting to rush through his parts cause he liked the ideas that went with Sasuke, but wasn't really as invested in writing his character inbetween or beyond those points. Also, based on the canon light-novel, his reasoning for that journey revolve around a few things. Namely him making sure the work that needs to be done for the village from the outside gets done, but also him fearing getting close to anyone because of the Uchiha curse of hatred and how it overtook him. Like, with Naruto, he doesn't have to fear the other half of that bond dying so much. With anyone else, he does even if he's around, and he's afraid the loss will send him spiraling right back into an obsession with revenge and thinking only with hatred. Also, if you wanna be that critical of how the story went, most of the show revolves around people trying to force feelings onto Sasuke that he himself doesn't just naturally have. Itachi with the clan and 'Tobi.' Sakura and Ino and the whole love thing. Naruto and friendship to the point where he believes he should control Sasuke's location and activities. Orochimaru wanting to literally take his body over. The path he had for development wasn't really the best for a optimally sane brain. I mean, the only person he had to answer very sensitive questions about the truth of what happened to his clan was Fucking Danzo, who has the bedside manner of a gluttonous Honey Badger.
Okay but fr, while I haven't seen the Sonic movies, I've heard good things. Cursed Sonic was funny, but with the identity crisis the series was having at the time, and had been having since 2010, Sonic fans needed the change. For us, it wouldn't just be "haha, the funny bad movie". It would be "SEGA, please treat this franchise we love with more respect!" Not to mention, there are way too many people who will make something like that the entire identity of the series. You still can't watch one of the 2000s Sonic games without people getting obnoxious with Snapcube references. You still can't get a new 2D Sonic game without people dunking on it because it isn't the Genesis games but again. Essentially, if it was almost any other series, I would agree with Fauna. But Sonic really needed that break. And Detective Pikachu? Goated film. I loved it so much when I watched it.
Eeeh... Taste may differ, but taste does not define a personality... This means basically that they like the different things, but they like their things just as much the other dislikes it. Common bahavior.
What Fauna like is the Alternate World version of Sasuke where he's a fuck boy and treat Sakura (and probably a lot of girls) like a princess. Naruto is an evil emo there but it's interesting, at least.
To be fair Sakura did try to kill Sasuke first, something about how she couldn't stand to see him become any more evil, so I guess there is a little bit of wrong doing on both sides. Honestly I actually feel like I do understand where Sakura's and Sasuke's feelings are coming from at that point in the story and I think it's really well written and I really like that things ended up working out and that it didn't happen instantaneously, I like that it took a long time and I liked the mutual understanding and compromise they came to in both the arc where Sarada meets Sasuke for the first time and the one Sasuke punched that velociraptor in the throat. Sure Sasuke may not always be around but they seem to have made their long distance relationship work.
I mean, Sasuke was a renegade and intent on destroying Konoha village when Sakura went to kill him. He was a threat to the lives of everyone she knew. That said, she still couldn't go through with it, and that gave him the opening to actually make a killing strike. This happened twice in quick succession; Sakura would be dead by his hand if not for Kakashi and then Naruto saving her.
@@Metaknight180 I think this is all because Kishi tried to have his cake and eat it too. What I mean by that is that he tried to write Naruto like it's one of those teenage Disney sitcoms (like ANT Farm or Girl Meets World) where the only problems are tests and bullies and also a ninja story where you have to save the village/world in order to keep it from being destroyed (or, at least, in Konoha's case, being destroyed more times than it already has). This is why he wrote Sakura as a typical teenage valley girl instead of someone who's meant to be in the military which was why she couldn't kill Sasuke. She still had the mentality of a high schooler at the time. This was also why he wrote Naruto to be a doofus, a goofball, a horndog (he can't stop thinking about Sakura) and a dumbass but that's irrelevant here. I like Naruto but I *cannot* deny that it's atrociously written at times. If you wanted to make a high school anime, make a high school anime and if you want to make a military anime or at least a military school anime, then make *that* kind of anime. Don't try to mash the two together like they're a 2 for 1 deal, Kishi. That's all I'm sayin'.
I wouldn't called very well written but definitely it's not as Bad as people make it look. Sasuke show in intances on early Naruto that he has feelings for Sakura and in Shippuden he only tries to kill her because that man at his lowest he is ever been. And I gotta Say i really like their relationship in Boruto, one of the few good things of Boruto
Is it even "shipping" if it's canon? I mean, they are married lol And to be fair, every first generation kunoichi in Boruto is basically a non-character anyway, so it's not like it matters that much. Even more so than in a normal shounen. I don't know, i've watched like, 6 episodes lol I'm more of a Baki guy myself.
@@kiawelb To be fair in the opening episode/chapter Boruto literally told the audience that it's not about his dads story any more it's about his story so it's not really fair to expect the old characters to have too much presence but also I get where you are coming from even some of the new characters get so little screen time that I couldn't even tell you their names but also I think the desire to know more about the characters comes from the good character design and writing, people wouldn't be so upset if they didn't care and it's better to have people wanting more character development then wanting a character to have less screen time, I never see anyone complaining about how the whole world revolves around a certain character or claiming that the story would be better if some specific character was removed. Also shipping just refers to the relationship between two characters it doesn't have to be romantic and it can be cannon or fan fiction, it's just most people only use it in a romantic matchmaking context.
@@kiawelbFor most of us who followed Naruto from the beginning, we think in the same terms we did as it was ongoing for 12 years and not exactly stuff that happened at the final hour lol
I really liked Sasuke x Karin too... Mostly coz I think Karin is way hotter than Sakura lol. Her "bite me and get a surge of chakra" ability(?) could make for _noice_ hentai plots.
I love Fauna voice but I had many similarities with Shiori... so yeah, Sasuke+Sakura is a piece of sheet. One of Kishimoto biggest mistake, better make Lee+Sakura and Sasuke+Red Hair Glasses girl whose name I forgot.
The problem with Karin x Sasuke is the same problem that NaruHina had, which is that it's such a one sided relationship. The girl is crazy in love with the guy but the guy just see her as a friend (Sasuke tried to kill Karin but thats other story)
@@elektra8535NaruHina wasn't really fully 1 sided. Naruto has shown that he cares for Hinata just as much as he does for Sakura. Especially the Pain Arc. Dude went full 9 tails rage thinking he killed her.
SasukeXSakura is probably the most toxic ship of the series. Especially since in the last chapters just before his final fight with Naruto he fully laid out just how delusional and shallow the infatuation was on Sakura's part. Him being with her was throwing a dog a bone.
I don't hate the SasuSaku pairing. I just hate the two character individually. They actually deserved each other to be perfectly honest, they deserve to have a disfunctional relationship. lol 😂
In fairness to Fauna, I kinda thought SasuSaku was fine, just wished they didn't write post Shippuden Sasuke to be like... that. Honestly all the endgame ships were what I wanted, it's just that I don't think it was meant to go beyond that series and now we have to deal with Boruto.
Fauna went full on delulu with Sasuke lmao. He treated Sakura like trash. Feels like he only got Sakura pregnante once for the sake of continuing his bloodline and then went to go fuck off lmao
Shiori and Fauna are like that meme of the two girls taking a selfie in a car with the rainbow hair and the goth make up.
Shiori is indeed the rainbow hair one
Girly goth and gothy girl
@@buihoanglong6053 people really thought that Shiori is going to be the brooding, above it all type but she turns out to be a dork. Many thought Fauna is going to be the seiso persil white but turns out she's quite loaded with cursed knowledge.
Fauna voice is one of the cutest in Hololive-EN
"I *think* my cut off point is when they try to KILL YOU"
This interaction was gold, Jerry. GOLD!
This is like the nicest version of shipping wars, lol
The tremors of war rumble beneath this light discourse, like two generals meeting for the final negotiations on the day before it starts lmao
It's funny how the more you listen to them, the more you realize how different their tastes are but because both of them are the compromising type, they can still somehow keep going HAHAHAHA It's like I'm watching a dysfunctional couple who's somehow still together and it's extremely fun.
Nah it's awkward friends trying to get along in a school task group 😅
If they're not in one group, they never want to talk maybe 🤣
It's the former goth girl trying to relate to the girl that stayed a goth after highschool because they were besties and still want to be 😂
Applaud to both of them though. It is hard to keep an interesting conversation going and entertaining an audience while having different interest/opinion.
They also show they can at least meet halfway on things, plus this is one conversation out of many they had during the stream, they could have possibly found some overlaps in taste as the stream went on.
@@majesticfox Strangely enough, it's the way they're trying to find a middle ground that is entertaining to watch. It's fun to see them suddenly go quiet after a topic, and one of them immediately starts a random topic.
I think my new enjoyment in life is just to listen, while two nerdy vtuber girls chat about anime and games.
A lot among us have been doing that for some years already, and that is very good! We welcome newcomers!
@@kwj_nekko_6320among us
@@kwj_nekko_6320 recommend some vtubers like that please
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Even after this her feelings for Sasuke won't change 😂. Her head canon is true strong to even overwrite whole naruto...
I am sure her head canon is much better than the actual story.
Literally Eida with Omnipotence, fanfiction no jutsu lmao
Truthfully. When I've read fanfiction better than the real deal. Yeah I gotta admit. If I could go back in time I'm slapping 10 year old me for thinking the pirate anime and bleach weren't cool. At least I've heard more positive comments in the last few years.
Can't believe Faunashi-sensei blatantly favored Moomsuke and SakuRyS over Baeruto...
I hear SakuRys and I only can remmember 2 words:
PERO, PERO.
They are like polar opposites but Shiori is trying to relate with Fauna.
I think shiori is into something, maybe if your crush tries to kill you or pierces your chest/abdomen with his hand then its time to get over him
Fauna is the goth that "stopped" being goth. Shiori is the goth that is still goth... Technically in terms of stages, fauna is more advanced than shiori. You don't stop being goth btw, you just hide it better... Letting it boil under the surface, concentrating it, becoming... Stronger.
Fauna no longer needs dark colors to be goth. It’s in her veins.
Fauna has mentioned wearing lolita coords irl, I don't think she's hiding anything
becoming nerdier even
I do feel like shiori held back her actual knowledge of naruto
With how much she reads / age ain’t no way she did not read it when it came out
But her saying that the cutoff point is when he tries to kill you was pretty funny XD
I think Fauna just like the character, but never really watch/read Naruto (she already admittedit in some clipped I watched) .. So, yeah, as character itself, SasuSaku looks cool and cute.
She only watched the first part. She dropped shippuden.
@@NargusJynk yeah, Shippuden is where Sasuke went into irredeemable territory for me. Dude killed a LOT of people.
I still can´t get over the suspiciously similar to Animal Crossing sounding bgm
no, it's legally distinct
That's Creature Passing
@@IsTheOrderASapling Damn you for making me laugh😭
Fauna with the redflags
To be fair to Sasuke, Masashi basically threw him from wherever he wanted him to wherevere he wanted him to be for the next plotpoint to be smooth and easy to get to. You have to actually think of the scenario from his frame of mind, development, and personality for a lot of his back and forths to make sense more than you do with characters like Naruto, and I sometimes wonder if that's more a reflection on him maybe feeling a bit spiteful toward the character he didn't even originally have in the story, or wanting to rush through his parts cause he liked the ideas that went with Sasuke, but wasn't really as invested in writing his character inbetween or beyond those points.
Also, based on the canon light-novel, his reasoning for that journey revolve around a few things. Namely him making sure the work that needs to be done for the village from the outside gets done, but also him fearing getting close to anyone because of the Uchiha curse of hatred and how it overtook him. Like, with Naruto, he doesn't have to fear the other half of that bond dying so much. With anyone else, he does even if he's around, and he's afraid the loss will send him spiraling right back into an obsession with revenge and thinking only with hatred.
Also, if you wanna be that critical of how the story went, most of the show revolves around people trying to force feelings onto Sasuke that he himself doesn't just naturally have. Itachi with the clan and 'Tobi.' Sakura and Ino and the whole love thing. Naruto and friendship to the point where he believes he should control Sasuke's location and activities. Orochimaru wanting to literally take his body over. The path he had for development wasn't really the best for a optimally sane brain. I mean, the only person he had to answer very sensitive questions about the truth of what happened to his clan was Fucking Danzo, who has the bedside manner of a gluttonous Honey Badger.
cursed kirin opinion is cursed
she's called cursed kirin for a reason XD
Her cursed taste for sonic is omg how do you even like the first Sonic it is horrifying😂
Shiori: Stop liking what I don't like!
Fauna: Stop not liking what I like!
Sasuke couldn’t even recognize his own daughter
Talking about Sasuke and his mission like he went out for milk and keeps forgetting to get the milk
The duality of Goths:
Reminds me of when Bae constantly reiterated that she could "fix" pancakes-kun
I hope like every anime discussions are like this...respect on what you like and dislike and just fun exchange
Shiori is so based. Fauna whyyyy
Bruh, shiori favorite husbando are kaneki & scaramouche. 😑
@@harfi212 We all make mistakes in life
@@majorquackquackI think Kaneki was a joke just because he has 2 hair colors like her.
If you read and think about a little on SasuSaku you see how messed up it is and how much Sasuke does not deserve Sakura at ALL
sasuke just takes the choke play to the next level..
He did give Sakura a ring though, didn't he? They had their special moments.
Okay but fr, while I haven't seen the Sonic movies, I've heard good things. Cursed Sonic was funny, but with the identity crisis the series was having at the time, and had been having since 2010, Sonic fans needed the change. For us, it wouldn't just be "haha, the funny bad movie". It would be "SEGA, please treat this franchise we love with more respect!" Not to mention, there are way too many people who will make something like that the entire identity of the series. You still can't watch one of the 2000s Sonic games without people getting obnoxious with Snapcube references. You still can't get a new 2D Sonic game without people dunking on it because it isn't the Genesis games but again. Essentially, if it was almost any other series, I would agree with Fauna. But Sonic really needed that break.
And Detective Pikachu? Goated film. I loved it so much when I watched it.
Both of them have different taste but somehow still gives the same vibes. i love my goth oshis
Eeeh... Taste may differ, but taste does not define a personality...
This means basically that they like the different things, but they like their things just as much the other dislikes it. Common bahavior.
Sasuke treat Sakura like a princess, just in this context Sasuke is an 17th century french REVOLUTIONARY
What Fauna like is the Alternate World version of Sasuke where he's a fuck boy and treat Sakura (and probably a lot of girls) like a princess. Naruto is an evil emo there but it's interesting, at least.
I mean since Fauna likes Sasuke so much she's probably the one who sealed him in that tree in Boruto's Dad Son's show currently.
So deep talk about sasukra
The title is a mouthful lol
No way fauna like sasuke damn this hurt a lot ngl 😅
To be fair Sakura did try to kill Sasuke first, something about how she couldn't stand to see him become any more evil, so I guess there is a little bit of wrong doing on both sides. Honestly I actually feel like I do understand where Sakura's and Sasuke's feelings are coming from at that point in the story and I think it's really well written and I really like that things ended up working out and that it didn't happen instantaneously, I like that it took a long time and I liked the mutual understanding and compromise they came to in both the arc where Sarada meets Sasuke for the first time and the one Sasuke punched that velociraptor in the throat. Sure Sasuke may not always be around but they seem to have made their long distance relationship work.
I mean, Sasuke was a renegade and intent on destroying Konoha village when Sakura went to kill him. He was a threat to the lives of everyone she knew. That said, she still couldn't go through with it, and that gave him the opening to actually make a killing strike. This happened twice in quick succession; Sakura would be dead by his hand if not for Kakashi and then Naruto saving her.
Your point became wrong when you said it was well written when in fact, it was not.
@@Metaknight180 I think this is all because Kishi tried to have his cake and eat it too.
What I mean by that is that he tried to write Naruto like it's one of those teenage Disney sitcoms (like ANT Farm or Girl Meets World) where the only problems are tests and bullies and also a ninja story where you have to save the village/world in order to keep it from being destroyed (or, at least, in Konoha's case, being destroyed more times than it already has).
This is why he wrote Sakura as a typical teenage valley girl instead of someone who's meant to be in the military which was why she couldn't kill Sasuke. She still had the mentality of a high schooler at the time.
This was also why he wrote Naruto to be a doofus, a goofball, a horndog (he can't stop thinking about Sakura) and a dumbass but that's irrelevant here.
I like Naruto but I *cannot* deny that it's atrociously written at times. If you wanted to make a high school anime, make a high school anime and if you want to make a military anime or at least a military school anime, then make *that* kind of anime. Don't try to mash the two together like they're a 2 for 1 deal, Kishi. That's all I'm sayin'.
I wouldn't called very well written but definitely it's not as Bad as people make it look. Sasuke show in intances on early Naruto that he has feelings for Sakura and in Shippuden he only tries to kill her because that man at his lowest he is ever been. And I gotta Say i really like their relationship in Boruto, one of the few good things of Boruto
They are different yet similar
Fauna’s canon sasuke is just adult sasuke ngl
How can they be so different and yet exactly the same at the same time?
The math ain't mathing.
Oh no she’s a SasuSaku shipper, guess nobody is perfect lmfao
Is it even "shipping" if it's canon? I mean, they are married lol And to be fair, every first generation kunoichi in Boruto is basically a non-character anyway, so it's not like it matters that much. Even more so than in a normal shounen. I don't know, i've watched like, 6 episodes lol I'm more of a Baki guy myself.
@@kiawelb To be fair in the opening episode/chapter Boruto literally told the audience that it's not about his dads story any more it's about his story so it's not really fair to expect the old characters to have too much presence but also I get where you are coming from even some of the new characters get so little screen time that I couldn't even tell you their names but also I think the desire to know more about the characters comes from the good character design and writing, people wouldn't be so upset if they didn't care and it's better to have people wanting more character development then wanting a character to have less screen time, I never see anyone complaining about how the whole world revolves around a certain character or claiming that the story would be better if some specific character was removed.
Also shipping just refers to the relationship between two characters it doesn't have to be romantic and it can be cannon or fan fiction, it's just most people only use it in a romantic matchmaking context.
@@kiawelbFor most of us who followed Naruto from the beginning, we think in the same terms we did as it was ongoing for 12 years and not exactly stuff that happened at the final hour lol
I really liked Sasuke x Karin too... Mostly coz I think Karin is way hotter than Sakura lol. Her "bite me and get a surge of chakra" ability(?) could make for _noice_ hentai plots.
Lmao the kirin is so picky
BRUH ISNT ONE OF HER HUSBANDOS SCARAMOUCHE?!?! DUDE TRIED TO KILL MC AND MULTIPLE OTHER PEOPLE!!!
Fauna is a bit weird. Shiori is much more relatable.
Might on the verge of holoEN: civil war right there lol.
Just from this conversation you can tell which one of them watched Shippuden and which one of them stopped after the first series 😂
Two cows, two different ideas
Wonder what Fauna would think of the, um, recent Chip and Dale movie.
I love Fauna voice but I had many similarities with Shiori...
so yeah, Sasuke+Sakura is a piece of sheet. One of Kishimoto biggest mistake, better make Lee+Sakura and Sasuke+Red Hair Glasses girl whose name I forgot.
The problem with Karin x Sasuke is the same problem that NaruHina had, which is that it's such a one sided relationship. The girl is crazy in love with the guy but the guy just see her as a friend (Sasuke tried to kill Karin but thats other story)
@@elektra8535NaruHina wasn't really fully 1 sided. Naruto has shown that he cares for Hinata just as much as he does for Sakura. Especially the Pain Arc. Dude went full 9 tails rage thinking he killed her.
oh no biggie he just tried to kill you LMAO ye don't understand how they still got married
You lack hatred
Sasuke is a King. Spice of life, Fauna hyper based. Friendship with shiori is over.
SasukeXSakura is probably the most toxic ship of the series. Especially since in the last chapters just before his final fight with Naruto he fully laid out just how delusional and shallow the infatuation was on Sakura's part. Him being with her was throwing a dog a bone.
Fauna is Sakura. Waiting for Sasuke to return.
I'm entirely with Shiori on this one. Detective Pikachu was enjoyable, and Sasuke is a turd, to put it mildly.
Yeah. Shikamaru and Temari was my favorite couple in the series. They actually had chemistry. Sasusaku feels forced.
I agree fauna, I can't change it I like sasuke and sakura better lol. I just love sasuke's character design when he's a father
Well I'm subscribed to Shiori now..
I don't hate the SasuSaku pairing. I just hate the two character individually. They actually deserved each other to be perfectly honest, they deserve to have a disfunctional relationship. lol 😂
In fairness to Fauna, I kinda thought SasuSaku was fine, just wished they didn't write post Shippuden Sasuke to be like... that. Honestly all the endgame ships were what I wanted, it's just that I don't think it was meant to go beyond that series and now we have to deal with Boruto.
Fauna went full on delulu with Sasuke lmao. He treated Sakura like trash. Feels like he only got Sakura pregnante once for the sake of continuing his bloodline and then went to go fuck off lmao
hmm
The only good sasusaku pairing is the badly drawn Sasuke with any of the sakura
Your goth gf tryin to impress your goth mom
It feels weird whenever I find someone that un-ironically likes Sasuke.
Fauna is crazy so it makes sense. She turns her fans into trees.
Tbf, his character is edgeness personified. Not surprising to see some kids admire him.
You will be surprise how many girls like sasuke type character. Elira from niji like sasuke too.
whyyyyyy fauna sasusaku is so ass💔😭. sasanaru >>>>
Sasuke is the worst.
Remember everyone Sakura is so useless that she gave birth to an Uchiha that needed glasses.
Am very sure she doesn't need glasses. Those are just Karin gifts
Fix the damned subtitles.