Fondant & Tylose- Learn to fix your fondant.
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- Learn how to make your fondant stronger to make molded details figurines and other details with your fondant. It also helps when your fondant gets too soft from too much color that has been added.
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Edna. I did cake decorations many, many years ago but a lot has changed since then. i am getting back into it and I will be using a lot of your instructions. Thanks for your generous sharing.
My pleasure!
Edna . I am glad I found you. You are a cake problem solver. Now I can do better with my cakes you are a pro, and I like to watch your videos. Thank you!
First time using tylos and fondant 😁 my granddaughters 9th birthday is coming and she wanted me to make her cake this year. THANK YOU for sharing your pointers. I am going to have her a great cake now instead of a floppy mermaid ocean cake God Bless you ♥️
It's my pleasure!
@@EdnaDelacruz thanks for sharing your knowledge its help me a lot
Hello! I am using a cookie stamp and an embosser stamp to add logo design on some fondant that I am going to place on some candy apples and cakesicles. I have store bought fondant and CMC powder. I did a "dry run" without tylose and my fondant cracked horribly. To get the best design, and not waste product or my time should I just add CMC right at the beginning?
If you are covering a whole cake in fondant, I typically don't add tylose to it unless the fondant is way too soft. Even when that happens, a tiny amount it's all I add. I mostly use the tylose for details or decorations that I might need to use a mold. Too much tylose and yes, it can crack. Works great when using molds or making bows but if you add too much of it to fondant, it can make it really difficult to cover a cake.
How do you keep from getting lint and dust in your fondant? I’ve been having trouble with that.
You have to make sure you are working in a clean environment. I used to teach a class in a Michaels and that was an issue. In my house that was never an issue. If you have open windows or dusty air duct, that might not help.
Edna De la Cruz Ok thanks. I do keep my apartment clean, but there is a vent right above where I was making it, so maybe that’s the issue. Someone also suggested using lint free towels and clothes.
@@Rach113 Yeah, the problem is not on you not cleaning your house, but air conditioner vents do collect dust and the spread it everywhere. If you are working near one then that might be why.
I went to a workshop recently and the lady said only wear clothes that are made of cotton when using fondant and only use hand towels and tea towels made of cotton.
Would you recommend using tylose powder if you need to make stand up decorations with fondant? Like a crown on a cake for example.... does it roll into string well?
Yes, I do like to add it. If it gets too dry because you added too much tylose, you can add more fondant to soften it.
Thanks for this very informative tutorial 💕💕💕💕💕
My pleasure!
Thank you so much for the detailed explanation
My pleasure!
Hi edna mam. Love to hear you. Have i to add tylose Powder to Fondant..if i want to cover a cake.
I don't really do it unless the fondant is too soft. Don't add too much because it will make the fondant too hard.
@@EdnaDelacruz Thank you so much mam. One more thing i wanted to ask is if can Ganache the cake and instead of refrigerating it can i keep it out at room temperature to harden...i dont want sharp edges just draping.
Thanks so much for expalaining in demo. Now i could also try it out but after purchasing the tylose powder haha. Cheers
Thank you so much for this! This is so helpful for beginners like me. Its my first time doing a full fondant cake with edible toppers. Ever if you're reading about it, its so much more convincing when you see it in actual application!! ❤️
Yes..Until you try it you won't know..lol. Glad, it helped!
Hi thank you for explaining everything clearly.
But I have question
I add cmc to fondant and made dinosaurs to my baby when I started it fondant was shiny but when it dried up it became dull .not shiny at all.
What should I do
Fondant doesn't stay shiny when it dries. You can spray or paint it with confectioners glaze if you want it shiny.
Useful searches .can we store leftover fondant mixed with tylose?if How many days?
It depends on how much tylose you have added. I If you added a lot, it will dry really hard. If you added less it can last a few days and maybe more depending on the amount.
Hi mam ...hope u'll be fine..
I have a problem that is when i use fondant toppers on whipped cream then after sometime the fondant starts melting...i dnt use tylose in fondant can i get rid from this problem by using tylose powder??? Help me please
Is best to add toothpicks to fondant toppers so they don't touch the buttercream. Also, is best to place them on the cake last minute to avoid this issue.
Thank u
Wow. Great tutorial. Thank you! 🥰
Glad it was helpful!
Hello what is the perfect mixture of fondant in covering a cake maam..pls help me..
I am not understanding your question. I am going to guess that you are wondering how much tylose to add to it? But I don't usually add tylose to fondant unless it's really too soft and I need to change the consistency. It's all about what works for you.
This is great
please can we use tylose and gelatin at the same time
My recipe doesn't use gelatin.
How much tylose should I add to marshmallow fondant that i will be using for letters and numbers
That depends on the amount you of fondant. start with a small amount of the MMF and test it. Sometimes, depending on the recipe you use, it can change the texture. Test in a small amount of fondant using small amounts of Tylose to see how it reacts and how you like the feel of it.
Thank you for defining so briefly
Thank you. How so you stop it from cracking when drying?
I made a solid fondant boat but as it's drying it's cracking. It moulded fine and I was happy with but now the cracks are showing. Please help!
If it is not fully dried then it will crack. If you are doing work like that, allow it to dry for a week at least. If it's too humid in your area, try using gumpaste instead.
Please what did you do to make the fondant stretching
Edna,it's really informative. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge 🌸😊
My pleasure!
This is a great tutorial, thanks.
Once you’ve made the decoration the way you what, how long does it keep for, and how is best to storage it? (I have to make some character figurines for a cake, and I want to make them as early as possible in case they don’t turn out well).
Thanks
let them dry fully in an open space that is not hot or humid. If you store them in sealed boxes and they are not fully dry they can get damaged by their own humidity. If the pieces are big, sometimes a couple of weeks is best so they dry fully. Once dry, you can store them in boxes. You can use soft paper or foam to cushion them in the box. Cardboard is better than tupperwear as it tends to let the air go around the box. Tupperwear works well if you are 100% sure that the piece is dry.
Edna De la Cruz thanks so much!!
And how long will they keep before the colour fades or they break down?
@@Kessiebear81 It really depends on the color you use. Is best to store in a closet that is dry and has no light so the colors won't be affected as much. I have pieces that are still in great condition after many years of being stored.
Edna De la Cruz awesome - thank you so much for the advice. Really appreciate it ❤️
Hi Edna, thanks for sharing. Can i cover my cake with fondant and my rose flower is made of buttercream mixture and my cake boarder is also buttercream would that be ok ?
I just missed this but I have done a border in buttercream but keep in mind that some colors might bleed into the fondant if they are dark. It rarely has happened to me but it has happened.
Hi hello edna thank you for your reply.
do you think that would be a good mix to use to make Fondant figuring toppers ?
This honestly will depend on the person. Some people love to use fondant and tylose. Other people like gumpaste. Some will combine gumpaste and fondant and some love using modeling chocolate. I personally like gumpaste but it really depends on the type of figurines you want to do.
what is the difference between gumpaste and a fondant with added tylose? when should you use each one? I'm so confused
Gumpaste is never used for covering a cake. It's mostly used for flowers and certain decorations. Fondant with added tylose can be used for decorations. Some people will use it for making flowers but I personally don't like it. Gumpaste has more elasticity and can be rolled super thin.
Thanks dear.. Seriously very helpful sweetheart
May i know what is called, the white board u are using, cause fundant not sticking on that board
It's a Celboard and it's one of my favorite tools. www.designmeacake.net/collections/gumpaste-tools/products/celboard
Can i cover the hole cake using this tylose method? And how to store it in the fridge? Please tell me
You don't want to do that. a very tiny amount of tylose can help a fondant that is too soft but if you add too much it will make the fondant really hard.
Wow Edna......you solve our problems before we asked to you.......awesome thank you very much
Hope it helps!
Hi Edna , I have some left over Gum Paste made with fondant and tylos. How long can I keep it in the refrigerator?
Easily for six months but make sure you seal it really well. If you don't I can dry out.
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Is there a good substitute to tylose it is very hard to find in kentucky
CMC is the only other substitute. If you don't have a cake supply store, I would suggest ordering it online.
Very helpful...thank you and God bless...
God bless you too!
Oh my god
Thank you so much for your his wonderful video , I found it very helpful for beginners like me 💖💖
I am glad it helped!
Hi where did you get that bow rolling cutter? That’s something I definitely need to buy!
Mine its an older one. The newer one is this one. I need to get me one of those! amzn.to/2HkxrY7
Hi . Thank you for this vid. Can you still eat the fondant with tylose?
Yes it's edible.
Thank you ❣️
Last question. Is this good for all weather?
@@lavidaurreta3795 Like everything done with icing, you have to be careful with hot weather.
Thank you so much ❤️💕
If I need to color my fondant, when would I do that? Before adding the tylose or After?
You can do it at any time but sometimes if you want an intense color, the tylose might lighten it a tad, depending on how much you add. YOu can always add more color if you want.
Edna De la Cruz ok great!!! Thank you so much 🙏🏻❤️
Gracias Edna. Great tutorial
Hello!!! Can we store fondant with tylose in fridge? Please response
I usually don't but some people do. Just keep in mind that tylose hardens the fondant depending on how much you add to it. So if you add a lot of tylose it will get dry and hard in a matter of days. If you just added a small amount and you want to place it in the fridge, make sure it's super well sealed. Fondant in the fridge hardens a bit so make sure to bring it to room temperature so you can knead it.
@@EdnaDelacruz Hello! Thank you for the response. What if I put the cake in the fridge with fondant details that has tylose? Is it ok?
@@yae-miko2325 I can't place my cake in the fridge where I live because it's hot and cakes tend to sweat a lot. If you are used to placing your cakes in the fridges with no condensation issues, then the fondant/tylose details should be fine. Some people place the cake in boxes in the fridge to help the cakes not too sweat. I would suggest to do a test and see how it works for you since everyone lives in different environments and I really don't know how a cake will react for you in the area you live. Summers are the hardest on the cake so it's the best time to do this kind of test.
Really useful and helpful thank you so much
What did you use to prevent sticky?
I put some shortening in my hands to knead it.
Hey , if I don't have tylose powder or Cmc thn if I can use cornflour?
Cornflour is not a gum. Some people use CMC but I never tested it.
can we save fondant mixed with tylose for later use?
It depends on the amount of tylose you added. If you added a lot for a firmer piece of fondant, it will dry hard. You can add more fondant to soften it and store it if you want. Usually, I do smaller portions just in case I have leftover, is not a big loss.
thank u so much dear
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us
Absolutely Awesome Video!
I made a bow using tylose but it broke by the morning. Why would that happen?
It sounds like it was not dry enough. When did you make it?
@@EdnaDelacruz 12 hours before using it
@@leenarakesh1 It will really depend on so many things. Do you live in a hot environment? Did you leave it to dry in an open space? If it had a weak spot and it was not dry fully it would break. Heat and humidity will not help with this either. I will be honest, I usually don't let my bows dry overnight unless the design requires it.
@@EdnaDelacruz how long would bows need... I live in Dubai
Nice very helpful and informative
Thanks so much I have learned so much from you!
Does a gumpaste dry hard as candy?
Yes
Mam how to store Fondant figurines?
You need to leave the outside in an open space for the least a week to make sure is fully dry. I tend to do it for 2 weeks because if there is any moisture left, then it can stay soft. Best to leave it to dry in an area where there's not a lot of light so the color doesn't get affected by UV light( away from windows). Once fully dry, you can store it in a box. You can make a bed of even toilet paper or foam and store it in a place that is dry. If there's too much humidity then it can affect the figure.
Good details and helpful tutorial
Thanks!
I am glad i found you. Thanks
Thanks!
Hello Edna! Thank you so much for your tutorial. I'm studying pastry and bakery on a local school and I'm having a lot of trouble because they want us to use a paste made of powdered sugar, glucose and tragacanth gum powder instead of fondant. And it crackes a lot. A lot. Do you have any advice I could use so it doesn't crack that much? Thank you!!
There are many recipes for fondant. That sounds like a basic recipe. If it's not made properly the fondant will crack. Is it a recipe they have?
@@EdnaDelacruz yes, they gave us the recipe on the school. If it were only me with this problems I could understand I'm the one not working on it/making it properly. But that's not the case. All of us are having the same issues
@@EiriSaiyuki Can you show me the recipe?
@@EdnaDelacruz Sure! 250 grs of powered sugar, 1 tablespoon of tragacanth gum, 1 tablespoon of glucose, and 2-3 tablespoon of water
@@EiriSaiyuki This is a small batch? Are you wanting to use this to cover a fondant cake? Or is this for gumpaste? My fondant recipe uses gelatin and a lot more sugar. I have both fondant recipes and gumpaste recipes in my website.
Thank you so much, i learn a lot.
Good tutorial for us newbies 😄
Question: can this be use for icing or buttercream??
Thank you
If you are asking if the Tylose with fondant mix can be used on cakes, yes you can but I use it mostly for decorations since the tylose will make the fondant dry a bit harder.
can we use cmc powder for swiss meringue or american buttercream
Is not really meant for buttercream but then again I can't say that with 100% assurance since I have never tried it.
Very informative..thank you
My pleasure!
Hello, Can i add tylose in my marshmallow fondant?
Yes you can but do a small piece to test the consistency first.
Edna De la Cruz thank u ☺️
You can use the Gallatin and glucose as the same time u use the cmc
Not sure if you meant to say gelatin but that is not used in this recipe.
Hi moms out there, i just want to share what i have learned, CMC powder branded as tylose powder is the chemical version of a natural powder called ‘Gum Tragacanth’. And CMC was only used in making medicines. My point is do not use too much tylose powder as our children were the one's who love eating fondant toppers. We do not want them eating those kinds of chemical treats. Suggest that for every 250g of fondant, use 1/4 tsp. of tylose powder only. 🙂
It's used for constipation. I understand that the dosage for a kid is one heaping spoon. I will also add that I am not a Dr. and I also tell my clients not to eat the flowers or hard details on the cake. Thanks for the info!
Can i use this in ice cream making
I haven't used it but it can be used as a stabilizer. You can't use too much because your mixture will crystallize. I've never used it but some people use G.M.S (Glycerol monostearate) for a smooth texture.
Hi Edna why not use gumpaste rather then doing this?
I don't personally consider this gumpaste because I like my gumpaste to be of higher quality but this works for many things. Let's say you are doing a colored cake and you need to stay with the same color to do a bow for the cake. It's easier to add tylose to the color fondant you already have from the cake and keep the same color. Also for those times where you are in a hurry and you haven't made gumpaste and you need do some detail for a cake. Sometimes I am doing some detail that is not worth using my gumpaste for and I rather save my gumpaste for something else since this is a fast fix.. I would never use this for flowers but it has it's uses and is worth knowing the information. When you start using it, you l will know if it's of your liking and what would you use it for. Even when you are doing stripes on a cake, a bit of tylose will help get those stripes to stay straight.
great content thanks Edna
Gracias por darnos muy buenos ideas. Men cantaría un video de usted decorando un pastel.
Thank u for sharing maam
My pleasure!
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure
Thanks a lot...It was too useful
Glad it was helpful!
Hi mam, we shouldn't use corn flour to soft fondant??
You can use cornstarch to knead if your fondant is sticky but don't over do it since too much can make your fondant dry.
@@EdnaDelacruz and how much tylos power can use in fondant
@@EdnaDelacruz and can you upload a video with using tylos powder, it will be more helpful for me, please dear
@@EdnaDelacruz and how can i dry my fondant? And how much hour before i can make my toppers?
@@meenalkachwaha4942 Just leave the piece to air dry in an open area. Preferably away from windows. I like to let them dry for a few days but keep in mind that thicker pieces might take longer to dry. Thinner pieces like flowers, take less time to dry. So if you are doing a thicker piece then I will suggest to give it 3 to 5 days to make sure it's fully dry.
Just purchased this from amazon
You can get it from hobby lobby too
Really useful, thanks!
Thank u so much.i learned so much more to you
You are awesome!!!
Thank you!
Is Tylose CMC?
They are kind of the same and you can use it if you don't have tylose. I still personally prefer Tylose. I have a blog that talks about this.
Tylos test very bed option how to use Aadhar
I am sorry, I am not understanding your question.
Thank you so much❤ ma'am
Thank you
Thnku so much mam
My pleasure!
Thank u miss❤
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wow amazing thank you
You are wonderful. Thanks!
I like this video!
Thnk you soooo much mam
Thank you so so so much you saved me, 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
I am glad it helped!
Your fondant recipe pleas
go to my website and look under recipes. You will find the link posted in the info section under the video.
Oky dear thank's
Thank u so much ❤️
Mam fondan melting how?
Is it hot where you live? Too much heat and humidity will affect sugar and make it melt.
@@EdnaDelacruz india
@@sonalganatra1552 You have high humidity in India and I don't know if you have rooms with air conditioner there. But when working with fondant or gumpaste it will be really hard to work in a humid environment. Some people learn to deal with the humidity but the pieces might still melt once they are finished. Is best to find a colder environment to work at. Best of luck!
Gd mrng very nicely explainef
Thank you
Before I thought putting tylose makes cake soft
too much Tylose can also hardened the Fondant or gumpaste.
Yes, you need to add small amounts and knead well, too much will make the fondant super hard and that ain't good.
C.mc pawdar use
I have a whole blog that talks about this. designmeacakeblog.com/2017/12/05/tylose-gum-tragacanth-gum-tex-what-are-the-differences/
Plz reply my message thanks
I haven't seen it. Can you ask me again. I guess I didn't receive a notification!
"Why would you like to work with a soft "condom" when you can add some "toilet" and make it easier".... These captions are WAY off 😂😂😂😂
hahahahaha!!! Gotta love the automatic captions trying to understand my accent!
Thanku so much maam