Dan Grieves is a short game god.. I already loved shortgame, but he really made me understands it. Props to the big guy for getting it so fast, really makes me appreciate what a talent Martin is
Very good technique summary - there is no one method or setup that always works - and it takes practice. Your ability to listen and learn Dan is a big reason you are a top athlete. Most people just do not listen - they hear what they want to hear.
I believe everyone that plays golf would benefit from Dan's teachings has helped me tremendously. only one person who doesn't need it is the dod king with those soft mitts
Love this! Great to have someone really question the detail. Think Dan needed some longer arms to help with the hip turn with Martin vs his other students though.
Well presented gents. Quite amazing how quickly Martin began seeing improvement soon as he followed Dan's instruction. Now I can't wait to hit some wedges.
OK ... OK ... clock system ... that is automatic due to the feel of restriction. This is awesome as I can work with that to further work on my shortgame. Great that you keep asking questions and refering to things. That deepens the understanding. Again ... awesome. Stay metal dude. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
About 20 years ago I read Dave Pelz's Short Game Bible and I dropped my handicap from 11 to 3.2 within 3 months of playing twice a week. Yes a legitimate handicap; my country club was strict about score entry.
3:00 He talks about 3 different release points , then later, when asked at what point the club should be released, he says @6:54 "you don't want it to be conscious. You are not really trying to make it happen". So then how do you make 3 different release points happen if you don't consciously make it happen???
The given Release happens more from the distinctly Different Stances and Setups of each of the 3 Releases due to Applying the Front, Middle, or Back of the Sole's Bounce. As was stated, the Turn powers the Stroke.
Never seen anybody asking Dan this many thoughtful questions. Yes, he is a god, but people should never do things "just because". This also brings the best of Dan because he gets to explain that his methods don't come out of thin air, they have good reasons behind a will put you in the best place to succeed. Great video! Congrats.
This was cool....something I am working on. But me, more 70 yards in....not 140!! This reinforces some of the things I have been doing....thanks bud! Good video!!
That 3/4 shot can be like a laser beam. I've been hitting it for almost two years now, like Moe Norman said, feeling like I'm pulling the flagstick out with my hands.
Good lesson, And best student i've ever seen. Dan made a masterclass of shortgame while you've made a masterclass of learning 🔥 I'll go share this video on Instagram right now ⛳
Very informative stuff as usual from Dan. Nice questions and back and forth, but got the sense that Martin already knew all the answers *and* already owns all those skills. The act was for us, the viewers. 🙂 Pretty sure it's legal, what with literary license and all. The big man is talented.
He dropped a ton of nuggets on you in a short time that will do wonders for your short game over time. Grip pressure at a minimum that can still support the club will be huge for you because I'm sure your grip pressure is off the charts. A key will be to not make a divot your short game shots even when taking a full swing. Next is when you told you to engage the ground behind the ball prior to striking the ball if you are opening the face and using he bounce. This will also be useful from further away from the green because it will deaden the strike and reduce the ball speed which will be really useful for you. Finally when he had you over club yet hit the ball the same distance as this will greatly tone down your "hit reflex" because instinctively you know that you have way too much club and so these shots will literally feel like chip shots and for your that will greatly increase your accuracy. I can't imagine how hard it is for you to develop touch at the speeds you generate as I know how tough it was for me swinging at 129 mph. That lesson alone though is going to greatly impact your game I assure you. Fantastic video Sir.
Martin's Golf IQ is obvious. He knows where Dan is going with the concepts before he even introduces them, the clockface approach to pitching being the obvious one. Loved this interaction between the 2 of them. I thought Martin might have knocked Dan down at the end with the back slap!
I watch everything I find that Dan is teaching in. Would love to see a video with your roles reversed, and you teach Dan how to hit 350+ driver. Well done Martin
I follow Dan for a while, read his book and recommend him to most people I know who have trouble in the short game. But I just noticed that his name is Grieve instead of Grieves :D
I wonder how Martin would fare on the PGA tour. He couldn’t use his long drive pedal-to-the-metal swing, but he probably still would have 20 yards on the longest hitters, e.g. McIlroy. He’d be coming into all the greens with short irons. Then it would just be a question of whether he putts well.
History suggests he would not do well. Gold is a combination of many skills. It would be like if a quarterback could throw the ball REALLY far and straight. Ok that's a start BUT can he read defenses, throw in front of/behind/lob over/ assess situations etc. Its 2 different worlds
I'm not sure if Dan will read this, but I'd be curious to know his thoughts on how those fat grips Martin and Bryson use, as to whether he thinks they would be or not be a problem with the short game, would they hinder say release 3 for example. Yes Bryson is awesome, but his own admission is hes far from the best short game on tour
It's amazing how bad the old way of teaching chips is. When I used to read golf books about chipping or watched youtube videos in the past, it ruined my chipping. When I started playing golf and before I read all that rubbish I had no trouble chipping.
This is the ultimate 2-man scramble team.
Haha! That is an AWESOME idea :D
Absolute dream team hey
if they had a kid together it'd be Bryson🤣
Haha
That would be great to watch!
Martin is a pro. He understands exactly what is being taught and his responses are always informative.
Why do you feel the need to tell people that. Enjoy hearing yourself talk? I can see no other purpose in your comment.
I've watched so many videos of You Tubers getting coached by Dan Grieve, but enjoyed yours the most. So much jam.
It's the on point questions Martin ask to realy try to understand it. This was so good. 💪🏻😎🤘🏻
@metalheads-golf proper good. So much jammy jam unlike some of the other wankers
This was a masterclass. Cheers Dan Grieve & Martin!!!
Please post more with Dan this is incredible! Great conversation!!!!
What ever Dan teaches always makes so much sense 10/10
What a great bloke Martin. Dan as well of course. A really clear and simple lesson. Much appreciated.
I think I've watched pretty much everything with Dan, also devoured his book, but there was something about this lesson that stood out. Fantastic!
You posed many insightful questions which helped me better understand Dan's techniques, especially about the scooping. Quality vid!!
I like that your open to learning. You know how to take a lesson. We all could learn from that.
Really intelligent questions Marty! Brilliant stuff. His book is enlightening 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
This is next level teaching. Brilliant student too 👏
I enjoyed this lesson for the back and forth about changing distance and trajectory with the same club. thanks Dan and Martin.
Dan Grieves is a short game god.. I already loved shortgame, but he really made me understands it. Props to the big guy for getting it so fast, really makes me appreciate what a talent Martin is
Not surprising Martin is a champion; he's obviously super talented, understands completely and is a light-speed learner. Amazing.
wish more people were as good students as you were in this video
thanks martin. that was pure gold. i think dan grieve is a superb teacher!! greets from canada
Nice to see Martin acting a bit more low key and respecting Dan's knowledge.
Pure GOLD! Thank you.
Hey folks that was awesome. Two Pros truly having fun and being very informative and educating.
Dan Grieves is amazing. Wish I had more time to practice all of his shots.
Great stuff. Couldn’t have a better guy than Dan to sort out your short game.
Dan is the man. A short game Master. 👍
Very good technique summary - there is no one method or setup that always works - and it takes practice. Your ability to listen and learn Dan is a big reason you are a top athlete. Most people just do not listen - they hear what they want to hear.
I believe everyone that plays golf would benefit from Dan's teachings has helped me tremendously. only one person who doesn't need it is the dod king with those soft mitts
he’s peaked out
Lovely respectful interaction from Martin… and wow, he just gets it and performs… imagine this guy on tour dialed to 70%
thanks for posting this! I've been watching Dan's videos and I purchased his book. He's great! Excellent video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Martin and Dan together = genius.
Love short game videos !! Thanks Martin 😎
Glad you like them!
Dan is a master teacher. So much better than most coaches I watch.
Martin, that was like Michelin restaurant desert , so delicious but so small. Good questions and even better answers by Dan. Thanks
Love this! Great to have someone really question the detail. Think Dan needed some longer arms to help with the hip turn with Martin vs his other students though.
Totally agree on the arm lol 😁
Dan is a master!
Martin had the right questions. Dan had the right answers. Two true professionals. Gratifying to watch.
Well presented gents. Quite amazing how quickly Martin began seeing improvement soon as he followed Dan's instruction. Now I can't wait to hit some wedges.
Some great questions during the session really has helped me understand the thoughts behind the techniques. Great job mate 👏
Great video. Dan, your approach always makes so much sense and Martin asks some very good questions. Very informative.
How on earth does Martin only have 157K followers. Come on peeps. This guy is a first class elite player. Keep up the great content, Martin.
Well done Martin. I also am trying to improve my short game.
OMG - loved that - more of this PLEASE!!!!!
Das ist wunderbar, Marty!
You can see how inquisitive Martin is - that’s why he breaks boundaries.
I dig the background music Martin!
OK ... OK ... clock system ... that is automatic due to the feel of restriction. This is awesome as I can work with that to further work on my shortgame. Great that you keep asking questions and refering to things. That deepens the understanding. Again ... awesome. Stay metal dude. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
For those of us who watch a lot of Dan's videos - the graphics in this one are the best, really help explain those different 'Releases'.
Maybe Martin gives Dan a long drive lesson?
Yes!!!
What's the value in that for Dan???
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About 20 years ago I read Dave Pelz's Short Game Bible and I dropped my handicap from 11 to 3.2 within 3 months of playing twice a week. Yes a legitimate handicap; my country club was strict about score entry.
wow, i think now no one use his tips
Going to take this to the next short game practice. I'll take any good short game gains!!!
3:00 He talks about 3 different release points , then later, when asked at what point the club should be released, he says @6:54 "you don't want it to be conscious. You are not really trying to make it happen".
So then how do you make 3 different release points happen if you don't consciously make it happen???
The given Release happens more from the distinctly Different Stances and Setups of each of the 3 Releases due to Applying the Front, Middle, or Back of the Sole's Bounce.
As was stated, the Turn powers the Stroke.
Never seen anybody asking Dan this many thoughtful questions. Yes, he is a god, but people should never do things "just because". This also brings the best of Dan because he gets to explain that his methods don't come out of thin air, they have good reasons behind a will put you in the best place to succeed.
Great video! Congrats.
Great teacher meets great student.
This was cool....something I am working on. But me, more 70 yards in....not 140!! This reinforces some of the things I have been doing....thanks bud! Good video!!
If you both would like to break the internet, then take on the Bryan Bros in a 2 man scramble. You and Dan versus those two. That would be epic!!!
That was brilliant. A giant sponge soaking up all of Dan’s wisdom
Shoutout to Martin for making this great video! Feel like he asked some good questions to get insight on why Dans short game plan is the way it is🔥
Glad you enjoyed it!
That 3/4 shot can be like a laser beam. I've been hitting it for almost two years now, like Moe Norman said, feeling like I'm pulling the flagstick out with my hands.
Awesome dialog! Lots to learn from that
Martin and Dan , unreal content mart 👍🏻🇬🇧
Good lesson, And best student i've ever seen.
Dan made a masterclass of shortgame while you've made a masterclass of learning 🔥
I'll go share this video on Instagram right now ⛳
Incredible video! I really learned a lot with this
The ultimate scramble team
Love that Dan is blowing up right now.
Very informative stuff as usual from Dan. Nice questions and back and forth, but got the sense that Martin already knew all the answers *and* already owns all those skills. The act was for us, the viewers. 🙂 Pretty sure it's legal, what with literary license and all. The big man is talented.
He dropped a ton of nuggets on you in a short time that will do wonders for your short game over time. Grip pressure at a minimum that can still support the club will be huge for you because I'm sure your grip pressure is off the charts. A key will be to not make a divot your short game shots even when taking a full swing.
Next is when you told you to engage the ground behind the ball prior to striking the ball if you are opening the face and using he bounce. This will also be useful from further away from the green because it will deaden the strike and reduce the ball speed which will be really useful for you.
Finally when he had you over club yet hit the ball the same distance as this will greatly tone down your "hit reflex" because instinctively you know that you have way too much club and so these shots will literally feel like chip shots and for your that will greatly increase your accuracy. I can't imagine how hard it is for you to develop touch at the speeds you generate as I know how tough it was for me swinging at 129 mph. That lesson alone though is going to greatly impact your game I assure you. Fantastic video Sir.
Longer video with him please
The wedger of the group!
even wedgier now!!
@@MartinBorgmeierLDNext time you play Breaking 50 with Bryson, you will really be the wedgie master!
Great video! Martin Borgmeier is the Terminator of golf 😂
Awesome, thank you for this!
Martin's Golf IQ is obvious. He knows where Dan is going with the concepts before he even introduces them, the clockface approach to pitching being the obvious one. Loved this interaction between the 2 of them. I thought Martin might have knocked Dan down at the end with the back slap!
Great science on controlling height for accuracy.
Amazing. So good. Thank you 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!!!
I feel like Martin learns things so dang quickly! Rick Shiels took hours/days to figure out release 1. 😂
140 a chip for Marty...wow
Dan is the short game master..thanks for the Martin.
My thoughts have always been that once the ball leaves the club you have no control of it. Does not matter if you stop 6 inches or 3 ft further.
Martin, it would be interesting to see a follow up video. You playing 9 holes with his teaching.
Yes!
I watch everything I find that Dan is teaching in. Would love to see a video with your roles reversed, and you teach Dan how to hit 350+ driver. Well done Martin
Great idea!
I follow Dan for a while, read his book and recommend him to most people I know who have trouble in the short game. But I just noticed that his name is Grieve instead of Grieves :D
What camera did you use to record this video? The image is outstanding!
Fantastic video!
Fantastic!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Accurate headline...
Oh man watch out now! Martin just learned short game from the guru himself! Now watch how his game significantly improves.
Martin Borgmeier got the hang of the instruction quickly and it won't take him long to get used to and good at it.
I wonder how Martin would fare on the PGA tour. He couldn’t use his long drive pedal-to-the-metal swing, but he probably still would have 20 yards on the longest hitters, e.g. McIlroy. He’d be coming into all the greens with short irons. Then it would just be a question of whether he putts well.
History suggests he would not do well. Gold is a combination of many skills. It would be like if a quarterback could throw the ball REALLY far and straight. Ok that's a start BUT can he read defenses, throw in front of/behind/lob over/ assess situations etc.
Its 2 different worlds
That would be one hell of a scramble team
Question…on the first shot to that pin distance…why not just pump a 9or 8 iron and let it fool like a putt?
I'm not sure if Dan will read this, but I'd be curious to know his thoughts on how those fat grips Martin and Bryson use, as to whether he thinks they would be or not be a problem with the short game, would they hinder say release 3 for example. Yes Bryson is awesome, but his own admission is hes far from the best short game on tour
Gotta have those sorts mitts
Lovely
Short game at 150 ! 😂😂 some days thats my 7i full swing!😂
It's amazing how bad the old way of teaching chips is. When I used to read golf books about chipping or watched youtube videos in the past, it ruined my chipping. When I started playing golf and before I read all that rubbish I had no trouble chipping.
The old way in golf is truly the worst of any sports with history. The progressivnes is still way to low. But ... this one ... was great. 💪🏻😎🤘🏻
What club are they using here?
But, Martin is already the wedger of the group
now wedgier than ever
Put these two together you have Bryson DeChambeau!
Dude nice commentary on sky during the U.S open
Twins! The new Arnie and DeVito
Martin + dan > tiger + jack
Gold right here
Martin is a flat out good golfer -- If he masters 150 yards and in + improves his putting -- look out !