ZEEKR 7X shows how far behind legacy automakers are
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- We had a blast in the mountains outside Guangzhou to try the new ZEEKR 7X - whilst it may not be the most outstanding EV against its Chinese competitors, on the global stage not much can come close.
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dollar for dollar, chinese cars are untouchable by legacy automakers
With all the choices from around the world and the US market is stuck with just a few, sickening!
stellantis is on suicide watch, like diddy
Stop kicking dead horses
they invested money in Leapmotor, who knows that brand might save them lol
@@ristekostadinov2820 it's their only hope lol
Legacy car makers like VW should be worried. My Skoda Enyaq Sportline has no rear usb/12v ports, no automated tailgate, no frunk despite free space to have one, already has the tech for adaptive/predictive cruise control in car but VW expect me to pay £270 to unlock it. Next car will be a legacy ICE car or Chinese EV
Is this basically a Lotus Eletre in a different dress?
No. People should not make the mistake that a Geely owned brand is the same as an established European brand even if they use the same platform. The amount of modifications to the platforms and engineering feel and personality into how the car drives makes them different. Lotus spent a considerable amount of time tuning that chassis and steering and throttle and such to make the car drive a particular way and the Zeekr won't drive like the Lotus.
@@benjaminsmith2287 EV6 and Ioniq5 are on the same platform, different brands and drive entirely differently. My question stands, despite your desperate attempt to appear knowledgeable. Thanks for your efforts though.
@@GingerPiston I answered your question. If you think platform means same car, then yes, that's what it is.
Same based from thw Geely SEA platform. But tweek based on the brand. Same ev architecture to save cost but different mode in driving.
This car is designed in Sweden, built in China.
Elliot, the Zeekr X in The Netherland is priced at a starting price of €42.490. Chinese cars will be taxed in the near distance future. This 7X definitely looks very appealing, but don't expect this to sell around Model Y prices, simply because the Zeekr X is at that price level already.
Then we haven't even talked about the weight. In our country combustion engine cars are taxed on their weight. Soon EVs as well. This behemoth will cost you €213 A MONTH on tax alone.
They may cut back on the battery pack for Netherland market. 😂
Why is it so heavy?
Looks like a work in progress with this one. Thanks Elliott.
I'd argue that it looks a lot better than 'Germanic' on the inside
Olaf is already hoisting the white flag.
A really nice car that I would seriously consider if Zeekr fixes a serious flaw, that most Chinese car manufacturers make when introducing a car in Europe. No 40/20/40 backseat or at least a load through hatch for our ski or fishing rods. I would never buy a car without it. Nio with it's ET5 Touring and EL6 know what Europeans want, but most Chinese manufacturers don't, and that even goes for Zeekr. They say its designed in Sweden, but not many Swedes want such a car without room for their skies, so it is definitely designed for China, not Europe.
I agree, but a lot of brands that you would expect a ski hatch from have removed them as well, like Volvo and Audi. Shame, really!
Dont forget chinese cars sold in europe often cost 50-100% more and also have poor highway assist implementation and buggy software.
This is not Tesla model Y competition for me looks like class above, Land Rover Velar, Porsche Macan, competition 😊❤❤
Elliot great video
Exactly...this is more of Li auto L6 competition as that car is selling very well in China...Onvo is a direct competitor to model Y. Reviewers are either asked to compare to model Y or they miss out on segments...
Groundbreaking and better than legacy brand with the same chinese standard interior like in every other chinese ev?
The 7X’s curb weight lies in the 2298 - 2475 kg range. The gross weight reaches 2800 - 2910 kg, depending on the powertrain option.
Curb weight 2300kg and gross weight of 2910 in AWD version.
That is about right with such big battery pack.
About 400 kilos more than current model Y, but it feels like u get more kilos for ur money :D
OP reviews car like a real estate agent sells houses. This is an EV. When do you discuss the electronics? Does the car pre-heats the battery and is there a button for it? How much does the car hold? What are the drive modes? Can it auto park? Questions an EV buyer would ask when making a buy.
From now on, I would call the legacy automakers "others".
Theres no way this will be cheaper than model y in Europe
As for EU prices - This costs 239k RMB, while the 001 is 269k RMB. The 001 costs 59 990€ in Germany. If this 7X is 11.15% cheaper than the 001, then that would put it at 53 301€ or 1700€ below the Model Y Dual Motor Long Range. The ID.4 may be a bigger competitor in Germany specifically, as they are quite cheap there, but nice nonetheless!
Seems like a pretty good deal to me!
Sad part is that the europe 001 is worse than the china version..
The world needs another 3 ton SUV which when it reaches Europe will be £50K.
It's not 3 tonnes. He's accidentally quoted the gross weight
In Malaysia most assess that byd seal have better dynamics than model 3. Just a common western narrative
Its alright i suppose. Nothing looks outstandingly different on the inside or outside. Is the headline click bait ?
3000kg, this will affect range, the Merc EQS was 2600kg. The Tesla Model 3 LR is 1849kg. So Zeekr 7Z has a lot of work to do.
It's not 3 tonnes. He's accidentally quoted the gross weight
its really fun to shop aund in China, loads of choice! its crazy to think 4-5 years ago this would not be the case
Love it !!!
Tesla model y is over rated .. most feel they just jittery and hard ride
like the car, but your review left me a bit confused, really. You didn't praise anything as being particularly outstanding, other than the front lights, and yet, this is the best electric SUV in the world? When we've got things like the KIA EV9? Ok that's in a totally different price bracket, but to call it 'the best', it really has to be the best.
The other downside is that here in Australia, the zeekr sedans and wagons won't go on sale because they'll stick to selling SU fing Vs and nothing else.
The Zeekr models will be coming to Australia
Zeekr is coming to Brazil and I'm looking forward for a test drive on the LFP version. That would be my choice.
Hopefully this comes to the UK. Would be useful to get range in WLTP
I like most Zeekrs but this one is very meh inside and out
Why is some of the video footage flipped horizontally?
This seems to be a common occurrence, and I assume that it is to get round copyright.
An atypical SUV which drives like an ordinary SUV. The Tesla MY is a proper driver's car, it's super at that stuff. But I understand that non-enthusiast/mainstream drivers don't care about things like that so much. They want comfort, utility, and tech. All that the MY is still super at, but you get those things in the Zeekr for virtually nothing on top.
Why is this an SUV? Isn't more ground clearance implied?
Why do almost all electric cars have glass roofs? They are unbearable in Australia.
I think maybe people are stupid.
Yes agreed, everybody else is really really stupid, you're truly the smart one 🙃
1. ground clearance up to 230mm on specs with air springs and 190mm on specs without
2. 7X has physical sun shade for its glass roof
It's beautiful until you notice how ugly the lower grill is ,then you can't unseen it
We need EV that are cheap, light and fast charging with a battery that makes sense with daily drive. Most people would not need more than a Smart car size with 100km range.
Sorry, did you say 3000kg, what the hell? The Model Y is 2000, is the Zeekr made of stone?? I don’t want to find out how a 3-ton car brakes on icy roads
3000 kg??? It will be pretty scary to drive fast, no matter how capable the car is.
Thanks for this clip.
But I must totally disagree about this "Legacy Auto doomed" take.
Zeekr is owned by Geely, so are Lynk&Co, Polestar and Legacy - Volvo. So they have a solid economic base.
But fun fact is that Geely is depending, and trusting, in Swedish engineering.
Zeekr, Lynk&Co, Polestar and Volvo are all developed and designed in Gothenburg.
Polestar and Volvo HQ are in Gothenburg and Geely has from the start stayed away from interfering.
(When Volvo was owned by Ford, Volvo went down in everything)
Today the EV market have a set back, but the Legacy Auto brands have other options then EVs. Take Legacy - elephant Toyota, they are just watching the struggle, while going direct to solid state tech.
Imo the leading EV company today is Hyundai/KIA/Genesis. A Legacy Auto brand. They have a lineup with very different and interesting models, also at good prices. An impressive development in just a few years.
Elon... take note.
(Ha ha, yeah sure..)
Higher ride height?? Excellent if it is. Too many electric suv aren’t actually that high. I have a feeling the price will be about double a tesla when it arrives in australia
Does it have the new 5.5C batteries?
ESG legislation in EU & UK is pushing for greener transport but they also don't want to undermine car manufacturer profits and jobs so raise taxes to make it uneven. Why is the UK trying to help EU protect EU jobs? Just let us buy Chinese cars
What is greener about a Chinese EV?
@@edc1569 Nothing greener about a Chinese EV. The government is pushing the green agenda and making it difficult for consumers to buy somewhat better EV's than the current market offerings. No one in the UK cares about preserving VW Group jobs in Wolfsburg, we would rather have affordable options from BYD, Geely, BAIC, etc in our market.
The official number of weight is 2300kg empty and 2800kg when full
Does it have v2G or v2L?
Love it. 30 minutes ranting what is not good, but the result is it’s the greatest car. How is this car ahead in respect to assistant systems? I like the design outside, inside looks fine as well and the buttons are good. But I don’t see anything really distinctive.
Zeekr make compelling cars, too bad they are Chinese, that's a no-go for me
Why are you here then
@@shaundudley4576 💯
I'm guessing that anti China content from US sponsored mainstream media influenced your thinking?
the car weight is 2400kg
It’s almost 1000kg heavier than the Tesla Model Y is that correct?
Yes, more powerful motor, 20kwh more on battery pack. Just keep in mind, Tesla motor is lot more flimsy build compare to cars design to be reliable. Earlier model S has motor problem because they push the weight saving too much. Using motor can only handle half of the power than it actually can in a reliable way.
I thought it was about 300-400kgs heavier? The lightest model Y is 1960kgs right? And the heaviest is just over 2,050kgs with fluids.
No. Reviewer probably confuses max gross weight vs kerb weight
Drove a zeekr 001 here in The Netherlands and I was not impressed at all. Besides some of the materials it felt like a poorly tuned car. Kind of like a cheap car with nice materials.
It felt kind of loose and unresponsive, and the infotainment was just a joke to use. A bit slow, and messy. Sound proofing also was not anything special.
After that I test drove a Polestar 4 and despite being on the same platform it was instantly noticeable that Polestar knows what they are doing. 001 did not feel like a 60-70k car to drive, Polestar 4 definitely did.
I keep telling people to stop believing them propaganda. Flights to China are cheap! Go to Shanghai rent a car or take the train and go to Chongqing. It'll open your eyes at how fast the country is progressing and why the "West" is threatened. It was Japan in the 90s to early 2000 that was very high tech. From late 2000 onwards it'll be China. Now do the same from New York City to say Denver. In between you'll see towns that will remind you of or worst than 3rd world countries.
Seems to me the only selling point of this thing is the price. Problem with that is that Chinese prices don't translate to UK prices. A BYD Seal is about £19,000 in China, but £45,000 here. Convert 239000 at the same rate and you've got a £60k car. And that could increase if import tariffs are dumped on Chinese EVs, as seems to be happening all over the world.
Apart from the price, what I learned from watching this review is that it's a big SUV with only 5 seats. It rolls in corners, poor feedback through the steering wheel, and the overall handling isn't anything clever. There's piano black everywhere. The seats aren't overly supportive or comfortable. The interior materials are cheap. It has an iPad glued to the dashboard, because modern car designers don't know how to design. The rear USBs can't be accessed with three people in the back. As for the lack of bings and bongs with the self driving, that won't happen over here either, EU rules will make sure they're turned on.
If you think BMW and Merc drivers will switch to this, and not an iX, e-tron or EQ series, you're delusional. They're not going to swap the prestige badge and superior build quality or driving experience for an unknown Chinese car that's average, at best.
So, after almost 19 minutes of a review, there's absolutely nothing exciting, revolutionary or even interesting about that car that would make me want one. I really cannot see in what way legacy manufacturers are lagging behind. It's not world-beating in performance, efficiency, technology or design.
The only flaw in your argument is that nobody is buying many EQs and iXs... And pricing is just a function of tariffs.
Europeans will lose out anyway. Not like an EQE SUV is cheap or any good😂
Is it better than byd atto 3?
It is at least 2~3 grades better than the Atto 3!
Door battery wouldn't open!!! hahaha. Also no tesla inlet.
3 tons!
Un france, a véhicule that weight 3000 tons, you've got to have a truck permit. Jezzzz, that car is too heavy
Xi will buy Macron's mamma, he has no say.
No. It is not the best! It do not have the battery swapping technology and not the best in technology too! New launch NOVO is the best EV with far better technology and come with battery swapping technology!
you should mention you work fir them😅
The car looks ugly and mainstream inside. It might be cheaper than European or American cars, but I will always support the local economy!
No 7 seat
Another "TMY wannabe" chinese comercial ⁉️STOP writing/speaking " TESLA " in all your videos ... BORING !! 🤮
😂This is lot better than Model Y. The Y is build on a aging plateform, which the same as model 3. And inferior build quality is. Well, not justify for the price is a polite way to put it.
@@林振华-t4v Which TMY ⁉️😂 or Which TM3 ⁉️😂 Zeekr, Lynk&Co COPIED everything from VOLVO !! 🤣🤣 BORING !! 🤮
Looks good. But please stop saying "Germanic." German products are no longer world leaders and many German brands have awful designs and quality issues.
Did they pay you to advert their product? Just one more Chinese state-supported here-today-gone-tomorrow pop-up car maker. Very soon, The EU will add a serious amount of import tax to the sales price to level the market.
Don't EU and USA companies have state-support as well (punitive tariffs, subsidies etc?).
Geely as a brand has some of the least support from the CCP out of any Chinese car maker. Also geely has a decent track record with their brands and Zeekr is aggressively expanding so it doesn't seem like it will just 'go away'
Geely is incredidle. but I like the ICE Geely cars as well.
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Mercedes and BMW left the chat….😂…Germans only sell name no quality….high price quality very low….
boring.
Here we go again. Didnt you rate that Xiaomi that is falling apart and catching fire all over China?
They pump out these videos (under government scrutiny) and talk about how great they are but never tell you when a car has massive safety flaws and thousands of daily complaints from owners.
This is a car reviewed under strict Chinese laws (you have to paint China and Chinese products in a positive light or they won't allow you to release it).
As a result, one of the most dangerous cars released in decades has nothing but glowing reviews.
You do your bit for Chinese propaganda mate. Dont upset your CCP minder though.
It appears that you are the one who is heavily influenced by US sponsored narratives about anything Chinese
CLTC is rubbish
Did you say 3000kg? That is just obscene. A car of that size with that battery should be about 2500kg. The McLaren you compared it to is less than half the weight. Very poor journalism. I will not subscribe nor watch any more of your videos.
He compared the power with the McLaren not the weight 😂😂😂😂
Don't let the door hit you on the way out 👋
2900kg is the gross weight so when it's fully loaded with passengers and towing I'm pretty sure. In reality it does weight a bit under 2500kg
😂😂😂😂
Sorry but the Renault Scenic is better than this car, so I don’t see the point of claiming that legacy automakers are doomed. Some are, but some aren’t. Is this all clickbait ? Are you paid for this video ?
They zeekr him here, they zeekr him there
Those Frenchies zeekr him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell? 🏴🥸
3:38 3000kg??
3 Tons????
@@Clickworker101 3 metric tons or 3 tonnes
@@tuppenceworth5485 metric tons
@@tuppenceworth54853 metric tonnes.
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Love it !!!