Vortec I have roped more animals than I can count on and off the ranch and none of my horses have needed this so called brace you talk about a tie down strap is for people who are to lazy or down know how to teach there horse to stay balanced when being rode ( and stay off the reins when you catch something ) most people don’t pay any attention to what there rein hand is doing when they rope and find them self pulling slack and the reins at the same time and then wonder why there horse throws his head up
I searched this matter out years ago and found the answer from JD Yates who gave that reason for the tie down. If the tie down is only for lazy, rein heavy, riders, why does every professional roper in the country use them? Why don't you see them used on barrel horses and in other horse events? Sure, you can rope without them, but why not give your horse every opportunity? The hit comes when the heel and calf horse stop hard and when a head horse faces. Think about it.
@@hannahstorandt-ruedy8676 The horse is tossing his head for balance and to avoid pain, and other reasons. One does not understand the needs of a horse if one uses a tie down. 'Ignoring the bit'............are you kidding. He tosses his head because of the pain inflicted by the hard hands through the reins to the bit. Pain from excess pressure. The horse moves his head up to relieve the pain.
The bit was designed as a pain compliance device. At best it causes discomfort. Don't get me started about the Vaquero tradition of the two rein and spade bit.
crying curry then you need to learn not to yank on the reins when you are pulling slack out of your rope and teach your horse that you know what you are doing now so he doesn’t need to throw his head up to counter your yanking the bit through his teeth
@@averyequestrian8716 I know a horse that broke a tie down, it was even a little loose, but he spooked and reared and pulled the his head up and it somehow broke
If people knew how to control there rein hand when they rope you wouldn’t have problems with your horse throwing there head up when you pull slack out of the rope. Tie downs are for lazy people that shouldn’t own horses. I have proven this before with roping bridle-less and when I pulled slack my horse stopped without any problem he was reading body position more than anything
I have shown reined cowhorse for years I have a horse that I have shown in the bridle I think he would make a good heel horse everyone tells me I need a tie down my horse gives to the bit and was always a good stopper I just don’t know why I need a tie down they say it is for balance but he didn’t have any problem with balance going down the fence your thoughts thank you
@@StewartTD1 Rope a few steers off of him without a tie down and see what he does. You'll know instantly on your stops where he places his head. then try a few steers with a tie down. Your horse will tell you what he does and doesn't like . experiment with him.
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I’m just here to read all the “know-it-all” comments. Lol 😂
You might just learn something that will make horses lives better.
The tie down is a tool that allows the horse to brace himself when taking the hit of a rope coming tight on the saddle horn.
Vortec I have roped more animals than I can count on and off the ranch and none of my horses have needed this so called brace you talk about a tie down strap is for people who are to lazy or down know how to teach there horse to stay balanced when being rode ( and stay off the reins when you catch something ) most people don’t pay any attention to what there rein hand is doing when they rope and find them self pulling slack and the reins at the same time and then wonder why there horse throws his head up
I searched this matter out years ago and found the answer from JD Yates who gave that reason for the tie down. If the tie down is only for lazy, rein heavy, riders, why does every professional roper in the country use them? Why don't you see them used on barrel horses and in other horse events? Sure, you can rope without them, but why not give your horse every opportunity? The hit comes when the heel and calf horse stop hard and when a head horse faces. Think about it.
Vortec I use one and I barrel race so no not necessarily just for that
Henry Henry every horse is different some horses need stuff that others may not need there not the same
@@vortec6209 Perhaps every professional roper is a lazy, rein heavy rider. its about the pay window not the art of roping.
1st, what does evading the bit mean? Second, would'nt suppling the horse bring the head down?
Yep.
A horse knows how to carry his head. Tie downs are unnecessary.
you are right ...
Tie downs are made to keep them from tossing their head, rearing, and ignoring the bit
Rodeo_Babe_ 2019 no, they are to help balance in turns for barrels or for roping:) they do not help with head tossing
@@hannahstorandt-ruedy8676 The horse is tossing his head for balance and to avoid pain, and other reasons. One does not understand the needs of a horse if one uses a tie down. 'Ignoring the bit'............are you kidding. He tosses his head because of the pain inflicted by the hard hands through the reins to the bit. Pain from excess pressure. The horse moves his head up to relieve the pain.
@@gerrycoleman7290 evade just like he said means to escape or ignore
The horse is evading the bit because the bits are archaic and all they do is cause pain. Not fun for the horse.
That horse doesn't even have a bit in lol
Basically correct.
The bit was designed as a pain compliance device. At best it causes discomfort. Don't get me started about the Vaquero tradition of the two rein and spade bit.
@@gerrycoleman7290 maybe you don’t need a horse if you can’t ride without a bit. You don’t need to show dominance to a horse. That isn’t real riding.
my horse broke a tie down
We call that a clue.
crying curry then you need to learn not to yank on the reins when you are pulling slack out of your rope and teach your horse that you know what you are doing now so he doesn’t need to throw his head up to counter your yanking the bit through his teeth
if you need to use a tiedown dont ride you ovouslly have no controll with horses and if h broke a tie down it was to short
@@averyequestrian8716 I know a horse that broke a tie down, it was even a little loose, but he spooked and reared and pulled the his head up and it somehow broke
Gee, we call that a clue.
If people knew how to control there rein hand when they rope you wouldn’t have problems with your horse throwing there head up when you pull slack out of the rope. Tie downs are for lazy people that shouldn’t own horses. I have proven this before with roping bridle-less and when I pulled slack my horse stopped without any problem he was reading body position more than anything
I have shown reined cowhorse for years I have a horse that I have shown in the bridle I think he would make a good heel horse everyone tells me I need a tie down my horse gives to the bit and was always a good stopper I just don’t know why I need a tie down they say it is for balance but he didn’t have any problem with balance going down the fence your thoughts thank you
@@StewartTD1 Rope a few steers off of him without a tie down and see what he does. You'll know instantly on your stops where he places his head. then try a few steers with a tie down. Your horse will tell you what he does and doesn't like . experiment with him.
When the rope slides on the horn the horse will be better balanced.
Unless you have won a gold buckle from the nfr. You have no idea what you’re talking about hahaha and no one should listen to what you have to say.
Animal abuser
Breyer lover 606 why it’s not hurting the horse in this vid and I’m not saying people don’t use them badly and abuse there horse but not in this vid
Says the little "tweenie" who jumps her plow horse with a running martingale.....