This was incredibly helpful. I did not grow up with horses so now I'm saturating myself with proper technique. You have a new subscriber! Thank you so much!
Thank you!! Had horses for years, got out it about 20 years ago. Just got a great Quarter horse and noticed the cinch is sliding back after 30 min of riding. I dont have a breast collar, thinking i should get one. Thanks great video, great audio, great picture, great host!
It could be that the cinch is sliding back to where it needs to be. Ride with it and if it moves to a certain spot and stays then see how the horse acts. Could just be it's going where it needs to.
Thank you! This was very helpful. 🤠 I just got my TB mare and her high withers has kept me guessing if I am placing it right. Also, do you find bridge pads helpful with hollowing behind the withers? Thank you!
I have a mutton withered (flat withered), laid back should, short saddle platform purebred American Saddlebred. Hard to find the point of the wither. The saddles settles quite a way back on this horse. Saddles are a real problem for her. Currently riding in a half breed swinging fender (HorseProblems, John O’Leary, saddle, Australia). I am in NSW, Australia.
Hi Rosemary, our halfbreed saddles based on western trees ( and pads)aren’t the best fit for a large variety of backs, they mainly designed for quarter horses. But the traditional Australian made stock saddle( not poorly made Indian copies) with a wide gullet will fit a wider variety of backs and the padding will mould to that horses back. You only need a wool blanket under the stock saddle with a horse with mutton withers. I hope this helps.
Jeremy, the part on the breast collar that goes between the legs, is that supposed to be hanging low or tight to the body? I have seen both, but what is the correct way?
Id assume it should be as loose at the back cinch. Ude want to be able to get a few fingers through and when they lower their head it will become looser. You could lift your horse head up high for the first time you fit the breast plate and see how tight it is then you can loosen it from there. Just my opinion
If your saddle fits, you put it in the correct position, which depending on your horse and saddle may differ from what this video says, is actually putting the front of the bar tip in the soft pocket behind the shoulder blade instead of up on the withers, using a good wool saddle pad or blanket (nothing else at all, no other material, just wool) and a good mohair cinch placed correctly (it doesn’t have to be right behind the elbow where you usually see it. Wherever the rigging ring is on your saddle and how your horse is shaped determines where is needs to go. To start with run it straight down from your rigging ring and as long as it’s in front of the widest fattest part of your horse’s belly and still on the breastbone you’re good. If the cinch sits slightly behind the breastbone or behind the widest part of the belly do not move the saddle forward, just angle the cinch forward till it’s on the breastbone and ahead of the fattest part of the belly. It won’t move and neither will the saddle unless the saddle doesn’t fit your horse or is poor quality, in both cases a better saddle (older used is great) is in order. The cinch will move if it needs to. It may wind up being at an angle from your saddle and that’s perfectly fine and okay. By doing this I, nor my husband or anyone I know who does this has ever had trouble with saddles rolling or slipping, and we don’t even have to cinch up super tight, and we ride in some really steep and rough country sometimes. It’s only with synthetic materials and/or I’ll-fitting saddles and/or placing the saddle too far forward, that I’ve ever seen a rolling or slipping problem. Just make sure your saddle fits your horse well and the pad/blanket and cinch are natural materials and you should be just fine.
My saddle pad always slides back when I ride I don't like to really get off to fix it because it's back the same way in 5 minutes. And I don't like to cause discomfort to my horse I've tried a breast collar and tried tightening the girth a little more but that doesn't seem to work. Is there anything I can do about that?
They make pads that are designed to grip the hair better. A neoprene bottom saddle pad, a tacky too or pimple grip pad, or a 100% felt pad should do the trick.
In my experience all of those will still slip but also trap heat and trapped heat causes muscle atrophy. If your saddle fits your horse and you place it correctly, which, depending on the horse and saddle, may differ from what is shown on the video, is place the front of the bar tip in the soft pocket right behind the shoulder blade, then use a good wool (no synthetic materials) pad or blanket and I’ve never had the pad or saddle slip or roll and I’ve ridden in some pretty steep and rough country.
I have a bunch of saddles that seem to fit well without a pad. But I’m getting roughed up hair on both sides in a big spot behind on each side of the withers! Am I maybe placing the saddle too far back to cause that?? Thanks! Tried multiple saddle and pad combinations and I get the same issue! Thanks!
It could be the horse(s) just have a lot of fat in the pocket behind their shoulder blade which is actually where the saddle needs to sit and its ruffling the hair. If the saddle truly fits and you’re placing the front of the bar tip in that soft pocket behind the shoulder blade then just ride the horse(s) until it/they lose weight in that area and that fat pocket goes down. Once the saddle bar tip can actually sit down in that pocket like it’s supposed to then if the saddle fits and you place it and the pad properly and make sure to always slide back and not forward when saddling and unsaddling you shouldn’t see ruffled hair anymore. We had this problem with one of our mares. The saddle fit well but she had fat in her soft pockets behind her shoulder blades and the saddle couldn’t sit down in them like it should so it was rolling and ruffling the hair till we rode her more and she lost that weight. Now the same saddle sits down like it needs to and no more ruffled hair.
most roping collars are not long enough but i have seen people with small horses mount them that way. One of my clients had a leathersmith make her longer straps so that she could do hers around the swells.
This was incredibly helpful. I did not grow up with horses so now I'm saturating myself with proper technique. You have a new subscriber! Thank you so much!
Vet says put the saddle two inches behind the scapula. Placing saddle on withers will sore and damage eventually.
This is the best demo video I've seen so far. Thank you!
2 words for you Sir... THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Thank you Jeremy. Good lesson on saddling.
Do you have a video for an endurance saddle with V rigging?
Thanks for the excellent information about how to correctly saddle a horse. It was simple and informative. The horse looks like a sweetie!
Bonnie Barto I concur.
I've seen so many different lengths girths on horses maybe do a video on that subject.
thank you
Thank you. I just found you and I enjoy your straight forward and genuine style. It's obvious you're about the horses and that's great.
Thank you!! Had horses for years, got out it about 20 years ago. Just got a great Quarter horse and noticed the cinch is sliding back after 30 min of riding. I dont have a breast collar, thinking i should get one. Thanks great video, great audio, great picture, great host!
It could be that the cinch is sliding back to where it needs to be. Ride with it and if it moves to a certain spot and stays then see how the horse acts. Could just be it's going where it needs to.
Really appreciate the information you provided.
Great video thanks!
Thanks Jeremy... very informative and professional. Preciate you.
Great video, thank you!
Thank you!! This helps me very much! 😊
Great video and rationale for what you’re doing!
Great video. Very instructive regarding the collar and placement. Thanks. I need help with Saddle pad selection. Do you have any videos about that?
thank you for information . very nice
Perfect. He looks exactly like my palamino so that made it easy!
Thank you
Thank you! This was very helpful. 🤠 I just got my TB mare and her high withers has kept me guessing if I am placing it right. Also, do you find bridge pads helpful with hollowing behind the withers? Thank you!
yes Pulling Style Breast Collar. I get mine from Billy Cook Saddlery
great idea for u and i preach it all the time at my barn....dental care for horses!
Nice
I know this video was a while back but I have a question. Is this how you put an Aussie saddle on also? Thank you for your video.
Regarding the back cinch. How do you get the correct length for one
Thats really interesting about the breast collar. Great idea, Ill certainly try that.
I have a mutton withered (flat withered), laid back should, short saddle platform purebred American Saddlebred. Hard to find the point of the wither. The saddles settles quite a way back on this horse. Saddles are a real problem for her. Currently riding in a half breed swinging fender (HorseProblems, John O’Leary, saddle, Australia). I am in NSW, Australia.
Hi Rosemary, our halfbreed saddles based on western trees ( and pads)aren’t the best fit for a large variety of backs, they mainly designed for quarter horses.
But the traditional Australian made stock saddle( not poorly made Indian copies) with a wide gullet will fit a wider variety of backs and the padding will mould to that horses back. You only need a wool blanket under the stock saddle with a horse with mutton withers. I hope this helps.
Jeremy, the part on the breast collar that goes between the legs, is that supposed to be hanging low or tight to the body? I have seen both, but what is the correct way?
Id assume it should be as loose at the back cinch. Ude want to be able to get a few fingers through and when they lower their head it will become looser. You could lift your horse head up high for the first time you fit the breast plate and see how tight it is then you can loosen it from there. Just my opinion
What About the 'movement of the shoulder blade'??
What do you think about saddle pad liner, for non slip of your saddle on hills??
If your saddle fits, you put it in the correct position, which depending on your horse and saddle may differ from what this video says, is actually putting the front of the bar tip in the soft pocket behind the shoulder blade instead of up on the withers, using a good wool saddle pad or blanket (nothing else at all, no other material, just wool) and a good mohair cinch placed correctly (it doesn’t have to be right behind the elbow where you usually see it. Wherever the rigging ring is on your saddle and how your horse is shaped determines where is needs to go. To start with run it straight down from your rigging ring and as long as it’s in front of the widest fattest part of your horse’s belly and still on the breastbone you’re good. If the cinch sits slightly behind the breastbone or behind the widest part of the belly do not move the saddle forward, just angle the cinch forward till it’s on the breastbone and ahead of the fattest part of the belly. It won’t move and neither will the saddle unless the saddle doesn’t fit your horse or is poor quality, in both cases a better saddle (older used is great) is in order. The cinch will move if it needs to. It may wind up being at an angle from your saddle and that’s perfectly fine and okay. By doing this I, nor my husband or anyone I know who does this has ever had trouble with saddles rolling or slipping, and we don’t even have to cinch up super tight, and we ride in some really steep and rough country sometimes. It’s only with synthetic materials and/or I’ll-fitting saddles and/or placing the saddle too far forward, that I’ve ever seen a rolling or slipping problem. Just make sure your saddle fits your horse well and the pad/blanket and cinch are natural materials and you should be just fine.
What saddle is that?
My saddle pad always slides back when I ride I don't like to really get off to fix it because it's back the same way in 5 minutes. And I don't like to cause discomfort to my horse I've tried a breast collar and tried tightening the girth a little more but that doesn't seem to work. Is there anything I can do about that?
They make pads that are designed to grip the hair better. A neoprene bottom saddle pad, a tacky too or pimple grip pad, or a 100% felt pad should do the trick.
In my experience all of those will still slip but also trap heat and trapped heat causes muscle atrophy. If your saddle fits your horse and you place it correctly, which, depending on the horse and saddle, may differ from what is shown on the video, is place the front of the bar tip in the soft pocket right behind the shoulder blade, then use a good wool (no synthetic materials) pad or blanket and I’ve never had the pad or saddle slip or roll and I’ve ridden in some pretty steep and rough country.
I have a bunch of saddles that seem to fit well without a pad. But I’m getting roughed up hair on both sides in a big spot behind on each side of the withers! Am I maybe placing the saddle too far back to cause that?? Thanks! Tried multiple saddle and pad combinations and I get the same issue! Thanks!
I would try putting the pad higher and sliding it down to keep the hair down to help
It could be the horse(s) just have a lot of fat in the pocket behind their shoulder blade which is actually where the saddle needs to sit and its ruffling the hair. If the saddle truly fits and you’re placing the front of the bar tip in that soft pocket behind the shoulder blade then just ride the horse(s) until it/they lose weight in that area and that fat pocket goes down. Once the saddle bar tip can actually sit down in that pocket like it’s supposed to then if the saddle fits and you place it and the pad properly and make sure to always slide back and not forward when saddling and unsaddling you shouldn’t see ruffled hair anymore. We had this problem with one of our mares. The saddle fit well but she had fat in her soft pockets behind her shoulder blades and the saddle couldn’t sit down in them like it should so it was rolling and ruffling the hair till we rode her more and she lost that weight. Now the same saddle sits down like it needs to and no more ruffled hair.
@@kristencora thank you so much never thought of that but they are both chunky so that could absolutely be it!!!
@@kaelenallen742 No problem. Have a great day!
Nice, though I don't quite understand the purpose of the thing around its neck.
How is the breast collar mounted one the swell ?
I'm wondering if I could mount my roping style breast collar up high to get it off their shoulders?
most roping collars are not long enough but i have seen people with small horses mount them that way. One of my clients had a leathersmith make her longer straps so that she could do hers around the swells.
Hello
The Pull Style Breast Collar, is that what you call it?
I thought you weren't supposed to throw your saddle over with the stirrups hanging because it hits them in the side
proxy proxy it shouldn't freak the house out of it is properly trained in being saddled
Curtus Smith it's not for preventing and unnecessary spook its because it hurts
Um looking 4 a good cowboy and I love horess
Music competes with your voice..
The background music is distracting.