The DCEU Iceberg Explained
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- Literally 1/3 of this iceberg is just cancelled films and shows lmao. DC and Warner Bros really liked announcing things they'd never make. There's over 30 of them in this video
Background footage
• Injustice 2 The Movie ... - Injustice 2 (IGN)
• Batman: Arkham City - ... - Arkham City (Project Raw)
• Justice League Heroes ... - Justice League Heroes (Omega Primus)
• Injustice: Gods Among ... - Injustice (Gamer's Little Playground)
Articles/sources
www.nytimes.com/2020/02/18/mo... & www.denofgeek.com/movies/matt... - articles about Ben Affleck's struggles
www.themarysue.com/jared-leto... & ew.com/movies/jared-leto-clar... & www.mtv.com/news/aspogt/suici... - articles about Jared Leto's controversies
www.hollywoodreporter.com/fea... - article about Ray Fisher's time working with WB
• THE BATMAN - Ben Affle... - Supervoid Cinema's video on the Batfleck film
nerdbot.com/2021/04/26/the-mo... - review of the Motherbox Meal
comicbook.com/movies/news/bat... - article about Batgirl
www.hollywoodreporter.com/mov... - article about the Lobo film
• JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK - ... - Supervoid Cinema's video on Justice League Dark
people.com/movies/ezra-miller... - article about Ezra Miller's controversies
• The Original Plans for... - Owen Likes Comics' video on Justice League 2 & 3
finance.yahoo.com/news/zack-s... - article about the open pod
screenrant.com/krypton-tv-sho... - article about Krypton
www.hollywoodreporter.com/mov... - article about the Wonder Twins
www.yahoo.com/entertainment/i... - article about Ike Barinholtz interaction with Jared Leto
www.gamesradar.com/ben-afflec... - article about Ben Affleck's Batman film
comicbook.com/dc/news/green-l... - article about HBO Max's Green Lantern show
www.wired.com/brandlab/2015/1... - in universe WIRED article
www.digitalspy.com/movies/a84... - article about Aquaman saving Clark
www.cinemablend.com/news/2568... & www.gamesradar.com/chris-mcka... articles about the Nightwing film
• Jason Momoa reveals Za... - Jason Momoa says Aquaman is canon to the Snydercut
movieweb.com/justice-league-d... - article about Justice League Dark
www.cbr.com/the-suicide-squad... - article about the original Squad 2021 ending
www.gamespot.com/articles/sui... - article about Joel Kinnaman's tattoo
www.esquire.com/entertainment... - article where Snyder answers questions about Justice League
www.thegamer.com/halo-emblem-... - article about the Halo easter egg
nerdist.com/article/the-flash... - article about the scrapped Flash cameos
www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent... - article about Dwayne Johnson trying to take over the DCEU
• A Superhero Serena Wil... - Serena Williams Wonder Woman commercial
00:00 - Intro
01:43 - Tier I: Justice League
44:05 - Commercial Break 1
44:36 - Tier II: Shazam Family
01:17:57 - Commercial Break 2
01:18:27 - Tier III: Justice Society
01:49:12 - Commercial Braek 3
01:49:42 - Tier IV: Birds of Prey
02:16:03 - Outro
Music (in order)
• Justice League Task Fo... - Justice League Task Force (Genesis)
• Justice League Task Fo... - Justice League Task Force (SNES)
• Superman - Sega Genesi... - Superman (Genesis)
• The Death and Return o... - The Death and Return of Superman
• The Flash - Sega Maste... - The Flash (Master System) - Розваги
Ran out of room for links so here’s the rest of the articles and videos I intended to link in the description
deadline.com/2018/03/ava-duvernay-new-gods-movie-warner-bros-dc-jack-kirby-1202338680/ & www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/ava-duvernays-new-gods-james-wans-the-trench-dc-movies-not-moving-forward-at-warner-bros-4159843/ - articles about New Gods
web.archive.org/web/20211013014756/www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_films/the-addams-family-director-barry-sonnenfeld-confirms-dcs-metal-men-is-in-active-development-exclusive-a188737 - article about the Metal Men film
www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/constantine-hbo-max-series-in-works-1304447/ - article about Constantine show
www.digitalspy.com/movies/a42600693/dwayne-johnson-dc-universe-denies-takeover/ - article where Dwayne Johnson claims he didn't try and take over the DCEU
www.ign.com/articles/suicide-squad-directors-cut-hopes-die-as-david-ayer-himself-is-done-with-dc? - article about the Ayer Cut
twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1688419559827726336 - David Ayer tweet about the Ayer Cut
www.inverse.com/entertainment/the-flash-bad-cgi-vfx - article about the bad Flash CGI
www.thewrap.com/greg-berlanti-says-dc-films-booster-gold-movie-still-development-warner-bros/ - article about the Booster Gold film
web.archive.org/web/20201127012839/movieweb.com/joker-harley-quinn-movie-decu-canceled/ - article about Harley Quinn vs The Joker
www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/vksd37/actress_caroline_kwan_claims_that_her_friend/ - reddit post about the cancelled Flash series
comicbook.com/dc/news/deathstroke-solo-movie-joe-manganiello-dceu-zack-snyders-justice-league/ & sports.yahoo.com/gareth-evans-deathstroke-movie-details-131617458.html - articles about the Deathstroke film
thedirect.com/article/justice-league-zack-snyder-sequel-comic-project-cancelled - article about the Justice League Motion Comic
www.ladbible.com/entertainment/film-and-tv-margot-robbie-reveals-why-she-dislikes-being-half-nude-as-harley-quinn-20190105 & www.koimoi.com/hollywood-news/when-margot-robbie-defended-her-uncomfortable-yet-fun-harley-quinn-outfit-by-saying-she-didnt-wear-it-just-because-she-wanted-guys-to-look-at-her-as/ - articles about Margot Robbie's opinion on the 2016 Harley design
web.archive.org/web/20201112015458/www.denofgeek.com/movies/green-lantern-corps-movie-release-date-and-more-details/ - article about the Green Lantern Corps movie
batman-news.com/2019/07/06/christopher-mcquarrie-pitched-both-superman-and-green-lantern-to-warner-bros/ & collider.com/christopher-mcquarrie-man-of-steel-2-green-lantern/ - articles about Christopher Mcquarrie's Green Lantern film
deadline.com/2020/07/jason-momoa-frosty-the-snowman-live-action-warner-bros-stampede-1202975009/ & movieweb.com/jason-momoa-justice-league-investigation-fake-frosty-snowman-announcement/ - article about the Frosty situation
ua-cam.com/video/xe35j-4Ips4/v-deo.html - WarpingFist!'s video on the Batfleck film
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157670061523247 & www.artstation.com/artwork/LdNor - concept art for Justice League Dark
ew.com/movies/ben-affleck-will-not-direct-batman-james-gunn-dc-movies-after-justice-league/ - article about Ben Affleck being done with DC
www.cbr.com/zack-snyder-dceu-movie-arc-epic-emotional/ - article about Justice League 2 and 3
screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-jimmy-olsen-death-explained-zack-snyder/ - article about Jimmy Olsen
collider.com/wonder-woman-amazon-origin-story-changes-patty-jenkins-connie-nielsen/ - article about the origin Amazons origin
ew.com/movies/jared-leto-clarifies-suicide-squad-gifts/ & comicbookmovie.com/suicide-squad/ike-barinholtz-recounts-jared-letos-insane-behavior-on-suicide-squad-set-a127871 & www.mtv.com/news/aspogt/suicide-squad-cast-jared-leto-joker - articles about what Jared Leto did during filming
deadline.com/2023/12/jason-momoa-peter-safran-aquaman-1235680244/ - Jason Momoa talking about Aquaman 3
finance.yahoo.com/news/buy-flash-nft-just-weeks-161953677.html - article about Flash's NFT release
www.cinemablend.com/news/2398902/zack-snyder-confirms-the-dceu-lex-luthors-dark-origin - article where Snyder confirms Lex killed his dad
ua-cam.com/video/Knw-Hmo4GZE/v-deo.html - DC - The World Needs Heroes
deadline.com/2023/10/francis-lawrence-constantine-sequel-keanu-reeves-1235588219/ - article about Constantine 2
www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/5ba5oe/dceu_general_zod_has_no_dick/ - reddit post about that Zod theory
deadline.com/2021/03/warner-bros-d-c-films-chernin-hourman-film-gavin-james-and-neil-widener-1234716614/ - article about Hourman
Do a warhammer 40k iceberg
@@RoyGuerrero1904no
@Pig3636, are you excited about Deadpool 3
@@Pig3636 ok I understand
@@Wizardmaster85_3.0eh
The era around Aquaman and Shazam was a time I actually thought the DCEU was going to survive.
After headless superman I knew it was joever
why? 😭
@@currentlyunnamedsorry the first Shazam was actually decent
Lol copium
@@basedbrit4206 tbh it was barely watchable
Ryan Gosling being the joker would have been detrimental to the internet
Litterally me living in a society 😂
drive to the literally me society
The internet would've broken lol
Take a shot every time pigpen says ''this isn't happening because the DCEU is death''
And every "HOWEVER"
Or every way he tries not to say Suicide Squad
@@realyungjoe "but then again"
I am ready to meet the DCEU 😂😂
and every "cancelled"
I can't believe Ryan "literally me" Gosling was considered for the Jonkler
IMO they should have gone with him.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 apparently he turned it down because he didn't want to sign on to a multi picture contract
@@marlonclark-pp9wg eh understandable…but he’s done deadpool 3 times now so eh
@@jakespacepiratee3740 that's Ryan Reynolds we're talking about Ryan gosling
There is lore reasons why Googling considered for the Jonkler? Is Warning Bruh stupid?
all the DCEU's behind the scene dramas are more engaging than the movies itself
Worthy of Documentary
This is all going to make a very engaging docu-series one day
The fact that WB were stupid enough to fire an innocent Johnny Depp from Fantastic Beasts. And kept a guilty Ezra Miller and Amber Heard in the DCEU makes me sick.
@@Person-wz6iy While Marvel/Disney are almost too quick to axe a talent after allegations come out, it is a stark contrast to WB seeming to encourage their talent while shielding them from criticism
@@Person-wz6iyyeah
Ryan gosling as the joker would do irreparable damage to this generation's men
Expicaly w margot
The hierarchy of power on UA-cam is about to change
What? That’s ominous…
@@markricheard1870 it’s the meme from the black Adam press tour
@@benquadrinaros8692Now Rock thinks he can do the same to WWE 😂😂
@@lewisaino#wewantcody
romeoproductions99 Cody should clap back at Rock saying since James Gunn doesn't want you now you want to ruin WM 😂😂
TL;DR, Warner Bros Execs being indecisive for 2 hours
Warner bros execs being indecisive for 10 years summarised in 2 hours
Not *just* indecisive. Also very poorly decisive.
@@TheStraightestWhitest ik 😂
Jajaja
im not even 30 minutes in but I love all the "alternate" names for the two squad movies
The Batgirl one honestly makes me so sad. Not only because of the dark and disturbing implications of it being deleted, but also they could've easily rebranded it as a DC Elseworlds labeled film, and reworked to be set in the Burton/Schumacherverse after Batman Forever (ignoring Batman and Robin) and reshot JK Simmons scenes.
Oh well, here's hoping Leslie Grace returns as Batgirl in James Gunns DCU. Also, thank Dwayne Johnsons Black Adam centric plans for the DCEU never happened.
Or an edit that establishes that jk simmons plays james gordon jr and that hes the son of the original jim gordon from those films
@@AquaFan1998 could work.
Yeah but also the movie has gotta be that bad for them to right if off tho.
As a DC fan, this video upset me because it was just a full 2 hours of showing how WB was like “Hey you know that character that fans love that we just announced is gonna get a movie/ TV show? WE DONT!” *Cancelled*. WB is such a joke. Still loved the video Pigpen. Keep up the great work
I am so PISSED off what they did to Zack Snyder. 😤😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Maybe one day it will be good but hay definitely not today
@@who-ny5oe hot take I’m kinda glad they didn’t do the synder verse yes it’s sad with what happened also he sais in this video that the synder verse is not going to happen
In Blue Beetle, there was a cut line of dialogue referencing "Supergirl of Metropolis." So blue beetle would've continued the Flashpoint DCEU It was changed to Superman
Also for SS2 Not only would black adam be the main protagonist, Supergirl would be as well under magical mind control As part of a cult of black adam sacrificing young girls.
"Avengers: endgame yourself squad" Oscar worthy title right there
Pigpen makes the best icebergs perfect content to listen to while gaming
Or while making ideas for other videos
Sadly that Universe never had spotlight on one of DC's most important fighters being Green Lantern
Due to the 2011 green lantern film not being recieved well. Ofcourse he had to be put in the back burner
@@lawrencelord9777The Animated Movies were cool do
@@lewisainoI’d actually argue the animated movies were even more inaccurate.
Green lantern the animated series was fun. It also delved in to the other lanterns like the red, blue and orange lanterns.
No but seriously
HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING A CINEMATIC DC UNIVERSE AND *NOT* HAVE GREEN FUCKING LANTERN?!
This almost makes me want to eat a cockroach burger because I'm just born to be wild like that
Nevermind, most of this iceberg is depressing
Of course the DCEU Batman would have merch, he’s all about branding
Strange confused and entertaining is a great way to describe this universe
With this video I found out that Blue Beetle was part of the DCEU. I legit thought that movie was made for a separate continuity just like The Batman or Joker were.
Him treating Jimmy Olsen as a domino is hilarious. It’s almost worse than not giving a shit lol
44:52 The idea of using audio from the cut bathroom scene from Joker immediately followed by Teen Titans Go Beast Boy saying “Waffles waffles waffles” would have been the funniest tonal whiplash in the history of tv shows.
The Black Adam drama was such a fun time. HIERARCHY
Captain America is my favorite superhero, i would love an iceberg about him and his side of the Marvel universe
OPRAH? OPRAH AS AMANDA WALLER?
So many choices in that segment made my head spin, but that one had me flat out pausing the video to think.
So much potential, wasted but I'll always remember the good times
What good times? 💀💀
😂@@corazonenalmibar
Of the characters introduced in the comics, the Man of Steel prequel comic had Supergirl, as just Kara Zor-El, introduced in it. Although unlike the Supergirl we saw in the Flash, she isn't Superman's cousin, as the story she's in takes place thousands of years in the past. I think said comic had the Kryptonian ship on Earth and the open pod, but I'm not sure if it's what spawned the Supergirl theory.
Also, weird coincidence how there have been 2 entries to cap off DC icebergs, involving the SA of Wonder Woman and Amazonians. Just shows how some people in both DC and WB, shouldn't be trusted with these characters.
*R.I.P. DCEU (2013-2023)*
Hope James can truly create a Redemption Franchise
@@lewisaino to be honest I’m afraid it will just be the MCU but DC characters
@@jakespacepiratee3740Maybe weirdly enough that can save it
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I mean is that so much worse than what the majority of DCEU is?
@@thatoneantoid51 eh I preferred the more serious tone of the DCEU. Personally I am so tired of every character in the MCU being reduced to jokers and jesters trying to make as many lamé jokes within a 6 second timeframe
The other G.O.A.T of icebergs back with another video
I'll be honest, the fact that you know your next iceberg won't do good but you WANT to make it for you and your audience makes me feel mad respect for you! Keep up the good work! This was a nice tribute to this messy cinematic universe
somewhere in some weird and quirky timeline Ryan Gosling became the Joker he would've become into yet another Internet Sexyman
This video is the final goodbye to the DCEU
Damn, you could make an entire iceberg just from the cancelled projects. That’s how many of them there are LMAO.
RIP the DCEU, 2013 - 2023 (technically 2024 if you count that tie in comic)
Very excited for a Captain America Iceberg! Love your videos, I listen to them on my night shift job.
I hate that most part of the entries are "This movie/series was announced/in development, but it was cancelled". Don't get me wrong, that's not a problem with the iceberg or the video, but is so sad to know that so many opportunities were lost and wasted because of WB 😢
It's so criminal that we don't have a Static Shock Movie. I loved the series so much as a kid. And I looked up to the series and the morals it shares.
700 likes
7000 views
All in 7 hours
I hope people stay active and give you all the support! I love these icebergs!
55:45 IT'S THE FREAKIN MAAAAAN
Been looking forward to this one ever since you announced plans for it!
It's always the "you see" for me!
I hate how noticable it is
Pigpen you literally post videos on stuff I’m interested in. You’re literally the best man. Keep it up
I just wanted to say I appreciate your videos a lot and I like how tou edit your videos. I been here for awhile and always enjoyed these. Excited for this one
something interesting about Aquaman 2 and it's $430 million box office number is that it's actually the highest box office a DCEU movie has seen since Aquaman 1 in 2018
Unfortunately for the Warners and their trained lemmings, a good figure is a billion dollars.
Jimmy Olsen was truly treated dirty in the DCEU, they could’ve just made him a background character for comic book nerds then needing to kill him off.🐱
The commercials are always such a nice touch, dude
Love the video as always appreciate the hard work
Hell yeah love seeing another video by pigpen!! Thanks again for all the work you put into these!! Hope your 2024 is going well too!!
Finally a watchable video my feed was dry until now thanks pigpen
Isn't it crazy UA-cam has more content than ever, yet most of it is unwatchable garbage?
Finally on time for a vid again, thanks for these videos theyve supoorted me for years
The amount of engagement is insane, great video
You are the best,Keep up the great work🔥🔥
This is very cool. Was more interested in the DCEU than the MCU and more of a DC fan over all so this is cool. Love your icebergs man. Very educational lol
As a long time fan I gotta say. I love the moments like saying suicide. Where you can’t say the word suicide because of UA-cam rules. So you come up with creative work arounds.
Is there a Green Lantern iceberg coming perhaps? Since Flash got a one i hope GL ones coming soon (both are as popular id say " and GL fans could use finally some good content celebratinf a whole franchise Just like u did Superman or WW for example.
Love your vids btw! You're easily the goat of iceberg vids! ✌️
Green Lantern iceberg is coming out this year dw
@@Pig3636 yesss
Love These iceberg videos, i watch them all day at work.
The thing is that the "Lex Luthor Jr." thing isn't entirely consistent. Im pretty sure at one point in BVS you can see a newspaper that mentions "Lex Luthor's father, Lionel Luthor"
I guess his mom could of been called Alex, that way he's technically Lex Luthor junior
I found your channel about a week ago and I’ve already watched about half of them so when I clicked this one I thought I was watching an older one so when I saw few hours ago I went … nice
The amount of time and effort Pigpen puts into these is worth a like and subscribe. I’m proud to say I’ve been a fan since the Transformers Iceberg (insane to think that’s 3 years ago)
Finally, I was waiting for this one!
Man most of the entires were so sad. 😂 great job as always though!!
black adam was the movie that hurt me the most out of the dceu. I had such how hopes for a darker take of an anti hero or villain story.
There are many things i can see and pick out which would of made it a better movie. It now may be years till we get a new black adam appearance.
Snyder's vision for the DCEU was god awful, and it sounds like what we got was not the worse of it. my goodness. we dodged a bullet by cancelling the DCEU.
Please do the X-Men iceberg next. That one would be so rich in content.
Also why do you pronounce Etrigan EE-TRY-GUN lol
That’s how people said it was pronounced
This franchise needs to be studied I always thought that WB was trying too hard to catch up to marvel instead of create their own universe which inherently tanked most the projects that came out, it’s really unfortunate because for me DC has way more compelling characters and stories but ig now maybe we’ll get to see what james gunn has in store 🤷🏾♂️
Fortnite comic
Wise words
You mean Trash the Magazine
37:34 37:38 37:40 37:42 37:42 37:44
Yes, fortnite comic indeed 🗿
Thanks for still making funni ice burg
12:04 I legit slammed the table as soon as I heard deathstroke was gonna be in the movie, one of my favourite dc characters and yet didn’t get a chance to show up
i love you pigpen, you're the most underrated iceberg channel
I going to miss DCEU Pigpen but I can wait to see James Gunn DCU universe such as Superman Legacy
Unified Pegpen
Yay, one of my favorite UA-camrs dropped a new video! Time to grind COD and listen to it!
To be honest this iceberg is probably the best thing to come out of dceu
Nice to see you post man
Damn Bryan Cranston is the perfect choice but at least we got him in Batman year one :D
Respect for acknowledging Sam as Cap and that his accomplishments and Steve's are their own :)
16:20 I am completely confused what he meant by this I’m genuinely at a loss of words this is like cult leader talk. This is a great video, but I’ve never been more frustrated since the alien iceberg on how much loss potential and frustrating corporate choices have been made. You could argue that aliens had made a lot of weird decisions from the past 30 years, but the DC universe is like not even barely 10 years old. And the only thing that’s consistent is inconsistency. Also don’t trust anything. The rock says he is a pathological psychopathic liar. The man will lie about anything. He’s lied about the first time going to In-N-Out about like seven times now just for free promotion.
1:22:38 this entry pisses me off because I love that character so much in the Comics and 1:39:22 I remember reading that comment when it came out, and I am so frustrated. And the whole idea of Zeus, being a kryptonian is just even more infuriating.
Drink everytime he says "however". How long until you're in a coma
You’ll die
@@Pig3636HOWEVER...
i always thought the dceu was scrapped due to bombing movies but after seeing this endless rabbit hole of cancelled movies and delayed projects and unfinished ideas and whatever the fuck else i'm surprised this lasted for as long as it did, ive never seen this much development hell surround a single franchise oh my god
I really hope the next one is daredevil!! I’m so excited for all the potential icebergs. Otherwise we are gonna have icebergs entries of unfinished icebergs haha
Hulk is going to be HYPE.
So fucking sad hearing about everything they cancelled
I wasn't even a big fan of the DCEU to begin with
The goat Pigpen dropping another banger
For some reason I thought you already did a DC iceberg lol. Either way great video
Also, I am so glad these awful films are over with.
Great iceberg again but I'm hype on the gundam iceberg 🗣🔥
LUPIN III iceberg would be cool love the vid
Wow hearing Snyder’s trilogy plans it is not shocking they didn’t want to do that cause that sounds just so shitty
It's so funny that Darkseid only won because Batman fucked his friend's partner
The brony joke in peacemaker is a dig at stephen amell who plays green arrow in the arrowverse
Hey, loved this video. As someone who works in a warehouse driving a forklift and needs stuff to listen to I appreciate these long videos and the detail you went into.
Are you a fan of Star Trek and/or would you do a video on that franchise? Daniel at Trekbbs has made up a picture of one of these icebergs. It's kind of wild.
"I have this idea for a film involving one of our tentpole superheroes and we can fill some of the supporting character roster with characters from the comic books."
"Great idea. Solid. One suggestion: GIVE THOSE CHARACTERS THEIR OWN FILMS! YOU'RE GREENLIT! ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS!"
"Uh, that's spreading ourselves a bit thin. If those B-List supporting characters get their own films then they are going to need their own supporting characters from the C-List-"
"Great idea. NOW GIVE THOSE SUPPORTING SUPPORTING CHARACTERS THEIR OWN FILM! YOU'RE GREENLIT! ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS"
"Uh....fuck it."
-DC/WB, I presume
Pigpen uploads video. Me happy
The holy grail of all Dceu content is finally here!
You mentioned how there was only one novel (that aren't novelizations) part of the MCU which is incorrect as there's 3 (I believe 3) Captain Marvel novels telling Carol's experience before the movie. They're rather unknown so it's no problem they went under the radar but I thought it was worth mentioning.
You should make a part 2 for the Star Wars iceberg I think there's more topics to talk about
57:43 i remember getting a BVS comic book by a cereal box when i was younger it was cool but the comic i got always confused me was it canon or not due to having random halo looking aliens attack the city
I don't know if anyone else also remeber that one too
J.J Abrams was legalized bank robbery at Wb and kinda have to respect it
Loved this video!
There was also an audio drama that was released with The Flash, titled The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus, which apparently takes place after the movie, in the new timeline. Assuming Aquaman 2 takes place before the timeline reset in The Flash, it technically makes the audio drama the last DCEU story chronologically.
Can't wait for the Green Fantern iceberg!!
Also...(55:43)
what happened to Batgirl will forever piss me off
I will say my favorite entry is the scrapped justice league trilogy plans cause it has the batman and lois lanes son becoming the new batman (which i asked about on twitter lol)
If Matt really did tell Ben not to do Batman for his health, what an amazing friend he is
Or didn't want to ruin ideas
It's a bummer for him personally. Affleck said being Batman was a childhood dream. but between fan reaction, executive meddling, and a messy divorce in his personal life he got to live that dream...at the time his life was a living nightmare.