My friends and families... this is a taste of our next episode with @drpeterbohossian, and what a meal that one will be for the brain. We were both in Jacksonville to judge at the Incubate Debate national finals, which you'll be hearing more about from us in the months ahead.
In the University of Life, intelligence without wisdom is a boat without water: It won't take you anywhere worth going. Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies. Universities don't teach the most important information, because they simply don't have it. And nothing can be understood correctly until one has found the "Philosopher's Stone" for oneself: the fact that "GOD" is the Mind that is ALL and there simply isn't anything else! All mysteries have been unveiled, for those who are ready. Seek and ye shall find...
You're wrong. Stanford University has a total student population of 18,283, which includes 8,049 undergraduate students and 10,234 graduate students. In terms of staff, Stanford University employs approximately 15,878 staff members as of the latest available data. This includes both academic and non-academic staff, reflecting the university's significant investment in maintaining a high staff-to-student ratio (UnivStats).
@@malirk "Specifically, there were 15,750 administrators, 2,288 faculty members, and 16,937 students. The paid help of 18,038 (administrators plus faculty) outnumbered the customers (students) by 1,101."
Universities created this Frankenstein monster and now their own creation has turned on them, it's poetic justice in a sense but the consequences for the rest of society are dire unfortunately.
As a uni graduate of the 1970s, when I look back, this unfolding explains a lot of what my experience was back then. The take-over, the shift from debate to "we have the one and only answer," was in its infancy. So debate was still a "thing." Unfortunately, I fell under the spell for many, many years. Then I was expected to swallow (irony intended) the men can be women thing. And it's okay to abuse children. Game over. The scales came off my eyes.
@@carolynbrightfield8911 wow, your story really resonates with me. I'm a 32yo Millennial and I never went to college, but I was also a lifelong liberal (never was an ideologue, just believed the MSM). I reached the same breaking point you did, they are trying to gaslight us into accepting things we know are morally wrong and they're trying to flip objective reality on it's head and act as if you're the bad guy for remaining grounded in objective reality.
@@carolynbrightfield8911 Wow, your story really resonates with me. I'm a 32yo Millennial and I never went to college, but I was also a lifelong liberal (never was an ideologue, just believed the MSM). I reached the same breaking point you did, they are trying to gaslight us into accepting things we know are morally wrong and they're trying to flip objective reality on it's head and act as if you're the bad guy for remaining grounded in objective reality.
@@carolynbrightfield8911 2020 was my breaking point, for the reasons you mentioned and a myriad of other reasons as well. Now that I've been doing a deeper dive into the ideologies that drive the left, I'm horrified at the dark underbelly of where the ideas I used to support comes from. I've become a moderate conservative who supports a lot of what the MAGA/America First movement is advocating for, I still have some disagreements but I'd say I agree with conservatives about 90% of the time these days. Sorry for the long reply lol.
I think there is a reality of how bad Trump is that many people can't acknowledge. I was really hoping Trump would "Lock her up" but everything on his campaign trail turned out to be lies. Make America Great Again seems to only mean, "Put me back in office". He doesn't have any plans and we know he doesn't make good on promises. Where is his health care plan he promised?
I went from working in industry to a chemistry professor at a liberal university in 1990. I thought I had entered an insane asylum. For a long time I thought I was the crazy one. I had an ah ha moment when Jordan Peterson's faculty turned on him. I thought if a top notch professor like him could be targeted, what possible chance did I have?
@@malirk I taught until 2014. Politically my department was mostly conservative. The in fighting was about power and control. In industry the goal was the success on the project we were working on. I felt free to voice my opinion. You were rewarded for your efforts and success. I never doubted I was respected. My personal life and opinions were of no consequence. That was not the case in my department or the university. I can give you an example not involving me. One professor in another department was all about the university. He went to every event, he served as chair in his department, he received a huge grant to revamp a course for non majors, he served on numerous committees and to my knowledge was an excellent teacher. When it came time for his promotion to full professor, he was ranked 1st in all of the sciences by the promotion committee. He was not promoted. The excuse given was "it was not his time". Clearly he simply ticked off someone who was in a position to take their revenge. He ended up suing the university. He got promoted, received all his back pay and became one of the walking zombies. He was so bitter he came in to teach his classes, became a "gentleman farm" and took up a bunch of hobbies. That was the difference between academia and industry.
Love that. ‘Why do I have this level of confidence in my conclusion? ‘ becomes a very important question when the consequences of the answer are large.
Love Mr. Boghossian! It's nice to hear an intelligent, logical voice for a change. 😩 This interview reminds me of something I read recently, that the people who believe these things are NOT rational or sane and one of the biggest mistakes logical people make is trying to rationalize it. To wrongly think that sone people they always thought were smart, reasonable or rational people must have a actual logical reason for believing in something like "gender theory" but THEY DON'T! You can't give them that benefit of doubt, there's no logic to it. You can't even use logic in a debate with people radicalized by this ideology because they ARE insane, neural processes have actually been altered. It's like trying to argue with a narcissist, someone who gaslights and will deny they called you a vulgar name 5-minutes ago, saying they don't know what you're talking about and questioning YOUR sanity! There's no arguing with a person who just believes they are right and who have a whole mob backing up their insanity! If people don't respond to good, rational arguments based on logic and facts - they're gone! Apparently there is a window of time when they are being drawn into it, during which it IS possible to bring them back down to earth, but after that their brain chemistry is altered and it's essentially impossible to reason with them. It's similar to Republicans (or even liberals who argue against the insanity) who have lost lifelong friends over political beliefs because "progressives" are so filled with hate, illiberalism and loss of logic skills they're willing to throw away a 30-year friendship over it. 😢😢 I personally had to basically stop using FB because of my mother's old hippie friends post so much vitriolic comments & memes about Trump, Christians, conservatives, and Republicans and weird pro-islamic things with this gross smugness and snarky hateful laughter! I think back to the late 60s & early 70s when I was 5 to 10-years old and listening to all of the things they complained about and literally none of them have changed or grown in any way, but I have. They probably regret teaching me the only important thing I learned from them, which was to think for myself! 😂😂
Excellent conversation! BUT allow me to compliment the aesthetics of the podcast: the clarity of image, the nice defined border, even the second angle of the guest MAKES SENSE! I go crazy when the angle is at 90 degrees i.e side view...which is unappealing and makes no sense what so ever! The second view is at about 45 degrees which is very appealing and flows nicely!
Thanks! I’m glad to hear our obsession with quality resonates. While I love talking to people in person, there’s real benefits to this remote style shooting for eye contact and use in some of the documentaries we are developing. Stay tuned!!
We trans widows hope to have a voice and very soon. Boghossian thinks the kids should be the focus. We, adult human females, abused by "trans" are able to report the corruption.
A thousand thumbs up on this one. Married to a man who successfully masked his autism from the psych industry professionals for 35 years, I can relate a little to that position of society's seeming acceptance that it's okay to lie to a woman about your core being and the man gets validated, praised etc
It goes without saying that one should steelman opposing arguments rather than strawman them. However, I'm not sure that it's fundamentally YOUR responsibility to steelman the other side, it's more important to place the onus of steelmaning upon the person who pushes forth the argument in the first place, and hold them accountable, and if they become emotional because they are projecting an old childhood wound, than they need to be dismissed in most cases.
But it sure makes someone holding a nonsense belief feel awkward when you can make a better argument for their nonsense then they can make… and maybe makes them more willing to reconsider it.
@@DadSavesAmerica I don’t think that you can win (ultimately) by reasoning with them. You can really only win by crushing them, not persuading them. Dismissing their arguments (I.e. that biological men can become women) as the nothingness that it is is important, as the correct way to deal with nothing is to dismiss nothing. You cannot argue with them as if though nothing were something. Moreover, their allegiance to nothing (a false belief) is a projection of unresolved emotional issues from the past, ie people that want to get on the trans rights bandwagon project a rejected, abandoned or victimized part of themselves onto the trans person, and in so doing they confuse their projections with reality. When their projections are threatened, it forces them to feel the projected emotions, which they must have denied. This is the explanation for trump derangement syndrome, and if you want more sanity and more of the truth, it must bring to awareness first everything within our society that would reject it, and it will be ugly.
Peter has an important message but would have appreciated a few concrete examples from his own teaching that would give an outsider more insight into why he gave up (besides not being able to get an appointment to air his concerns)
I think that maybe, we should stop all funding of any kind of college and universities and pull their accreditation until they change their curriculum to reflect those degrees that fill necessary and profitable areas that are healthy and productive for society. Our responsibility as adults and guides to our youth if to help them reach their healthy potential and become responsible, healthy, productive members of society.
At 8:02 "Why would a rationale, sane, thoughtful person think that this is true?" Obviously rationale, sane, and/or thoughtful is missing from that person. :) I'm all for steelmanning the arguments for the progressive, woke, cultural marxist, or whatever they are, but I'm left thinking the only way an individual could hold some of those opinions is if they are indeed lacking in rationality or sanity. For example, the closest we come to truly settled science is that we are a sexually dimorphic species, but when the topic du jour became the rejection of that idea, the "scientific" research showed up right on queue to support it from the social, so-called, sciences. What do you call a person who believes a well-sold lie? Rational? No, they can't be acting rationally even if they think they are. Sane? Again, no. For the same reason: Their mental constructs do not reflect reality. But it seems everywhere you look in general society, these ideas have been swallowed: Laws about pronouns; corporate training tailored to reflect this "new reality"; conversations that would have been weird even for tumblr 15 years ago, are now happening all over the place. We are inside the spinning top and it has started to destabilize. I'm afraid we are too close to the axis of rotation to be able to apply enough force to re-stabilize it. That means either to force will have to be external (a truly horrifying thought) or it will have to be an orchestrated, united response, which seems infeasible once you realize the people who hold this ideology have implanted themselves everywhere: Every tier of the education system; board rooms; HR departments; virtually any form of media that you encounter; the vast majority of tech; the list goes on. In 1999 the effort to control the language was in full swing with "political correctness". Control the language, control the thoughts.
“I taught critical thinking” 😂 not that it is funny. But it’s so absurd right now when I hear “critical thinking” together with “teaching”😂 is the immediate reaction…
My friends and families... this is a taste of our next episode with @drpeterbohossian, and what a meal that one will be for the brain. We were both in Jacksonville to judge at the Incubate Debate national finals, which you'll be hearing more about from us in the months ahead.
Thanks for our interview, John. I had a great time and really enjoyed our conversation!
It was a real treat, my friend. Keep fighting the essential fight for sanity and critical thinking, brother!!!
Thank you for helping me find clarity in this crazy world....
In the University of Life, intelligence without wisdom is a boat without water: It won't take you anywhere worth going. Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies. Universities don't teach the most important information, because they simply don't have it. And nothing can be understood correctly until one has found the "Philosopher's Stone" for oneself: the fact that "GOD" is the Mind that is ALL and there simply isn't anything else! All mysteries have been unveiled, for those who are ready. Seek and ye shall find...
You know things aren't going well if the critical thinking professor quits.
Just a reminder that Stanford now has more staff than students
As an Australian, 😮
That's interesting. Are the staff at Stanford U. usually very Woke? My sister is there. She has become very Woke.
@@gemox3225
The whole area is nutty.
You're wrong.
Stanford University has a total student population of 18,283, which includes 8,049 undergraduate students and 10,234 graduate students. In terms of staff, Stanford University employs approximately 15,878 staff members as of the latest available data. This includes both academic and non-academic staff, reflecting the university's significant investment in maintaining a high staff-to-student ratio (UnivStats).
@@malirk "Specifically, there were 15,750 administrators, 2,288 faculty members, and 16,937 students. The paid help of 18,038 (administrators plus faculty) outnumbered the customers (students) by 1,101."
We stand with Peter
Thank you for sharing your experience with us, the University’s need to be shut down.
Universities created this Frankenstein monster and now their own creation has turned on them, it's poetic justice in a sense but the consequences for the rest of society are dire unfortunately.
As a uni graduate of the 1970s, when I look back, this unfolding explains a lot of what my experience was back then. The take-over, the shift from debate to "we have the one and only answer," was in its infancy. So debate was still a "thing." Unfortunately, I fell under the spell for many, many years. Then I was expected to swallow (irony intended) the men can be women thing. And it's okay to abuse children. Game over. The scales came off my eyes.
@@carolynbrightfield8911 wow, your story really resonates with me. I'm a 32yo Millennial and I never went to college, but I was also a lifelong liberal (never was an ideologue, just believed the MSM).
I reached the same breaking point you did, they are trying to gaslight us into accepting things we know are morally wrong and they're trying to flip objective reality on it's head and act as if you're the bad guy for remaining grounded in objective reality.
@@carolynbrightfield8911 Wow, your story really resonates with me. I'm a 32yo Millennial and I never went to college, but I was also a lifelong liberal (never was an ideologue, just believed the MSM).
I reached the same breaking point you did, they are trying to gaslight us into accepting things we know are morally wrong and they're trying to flip objective reality on it's head and act as if you're the bad guy for remaining grounded in objective reality.
@@carolynbrightfield8911 2020 was my breaking point, for the reasons you mentioned and a myriad of other reasons as well. Now that I've been doing a deeper dive into the ideologies that drive the left, I'm horrified at the dark underbelly of where the ideas I used to support comes from.
I've become a moderate conservative who supports a lot of what the MAGA/America First movement is advocating for, I still have some disagreements but I'd say I agree with conservatives about 90% of the time these days. Sorry for the long reply lol.
Brilliant. ❤ Peter is always real, always good.
Peter is struggling to recover from a serious case of "TDS." Wish him well for a full recovery from this troubling malady.
I think there is a reality of how bad Trump is that many people can't acknowledge. I was really hoping Trump would "Lock her up" but everything on his campaign trail turned out to be lies. Make America Great Again seems to only mean, "Put me back in office". He doesn't have any plans and we know he doesn't make good on promises. Where is his health care plan he promised?
Love Peter! Brilliant conversation
Peter is a beacon of intellectual honesty. Peter, please run for office.
I went from working in industry to a chemistry professor at a liberal university in 1990. I thought I had entered an insane asylum. For a long time I thought I was the crazy one. I had an ah ha moment when Jordan Peterson's faculty turned on him. I thought if a top notch professor like him could be targeted, what possible chance did I have?
You were teaching at a university in 1990 till when? What was so bad in your chemistry department?
@@malirk I taught until 2014. Politically my department was mostly conservative. The in fighting was about power and control. In industry the goal was the success on the project we were working on. I felt free to voice my opinion. You were rewarded for your efforts and success. I never doubted I was respected. My personal life and opinions were of no consequence. That was not the case in my department or the university. I can give you an example not involving me. One professor in another department was all about the university. He went to every event, he served as chair in his department, he received a huge grant to revamp a course for non majors, he served on numerous committees and to my knowledge was an excellent teacher. When it came time for his promotion to full professor, he was ranked 1st in all of the sciences by the promotion committee. He was not promoted. The excuse given was "it was not his time". Clearly he simply ticked off someone who was in a position to take their revenge. He ended up suing the university. He got promoted, received all his back pay and became one of the walking zombies. He was so bitter he came in to teach his classes, became a "gentleman farm" and took up a bunch of hobbies. That was the difference between academia and industry.
HAHAHAHA! Prof. Pete! This was one of my favorite professors! I took a few of his classes.
Love that. ‘Why do I have this level of confidence in my conclusion? ‘ becomes a very important question when the consequences of the answer are large.
One of the very few to listen to on Wokeness ❤
What is wokeness and how is it negatively impacting our lives?
Ideology is destroying science, logics and ethics.
Love Mr. Boghossian! It's nice to hear an intelligent, logical voice for a change. 😩 This interview reminds me of something I read recently, that the people who believe these things are NOT rational or sane and one of the biggest mistakes logical people make is trying to rationalize it. To wrongly think that sone people they always thought were smart, reasonable or rational people must have a actual logical reason for believing in something like "gender theory" but THEY DON'T! You can't give them that benefit of doubt, there's no logic to it. You can't even use logic in a debate with people radicalized by this ideology because they ARE insane, neural processes have actually been altered. It's like trying to argue with a narcissist, someone who gaslights and will deny they called you a vulgar name 5-minutes ago, saying they don't know what you're talking about and questioning YOUR sanity! There's no arguing with a person who just believes they are right and who have a whole mob backing up their insanity! If people don't respond to good, rational arguments based on logic and facts - they're gone! Apparently there is a window of time when they are being drawn into it, during which it IS possible to bring them back down to earth, but after that their brain chemistry is altered and it's essentially impossible to reason with them. It's similar to Republicans (or even liberals who argue against the insanity) who have lost lifelong friends over political beliefs because "progressives" are so filled with hate, illiberalism and loss of logic skills they're willing to throw away a 30-year friendship over it. 😢😢 I personally had to basically stop using FB because of my mother's old hippie friends post so much vitriolic comments & memes about Trump, Christians, conservatives, and Republicans and weird pro-islamic things with this gross smugness and snarky hateful laughter! I think back to the late 60s & early 70s when I was 5 to 10-years old and listening to all of the things they complained about and literally none of them have changed or grown in any way, but I have. They probably regret teaching me the only important thing I learned from them, which was to think for myself! 😂😂
Peter Boghossian is a fine thinker - I would like to have studied with him. Has he written a book?
How to have impossible conversations
If only there was a way to look that up.🤔
Excellent conversation! BUT allow me to compliment the aesthetics of the podcast: the clarity of image, the nice defined border, even the second angle of the guest MAKES SENSE! I go crazy when the angle is at 90 degrees i.e side view...which is unappealing and makes no sense what so ever! The second view is at about 45 degrees which is very appealing and flows nicely!
Thanks! I’m glad to hear our obsession with quality resonates. While I love talking to people in person, there’s real benefits to this remote style shooting for eye contact and use in some of the documentaries we are developing. Stay tuned!!
Right on. Down with Communism.
We trans widows hope to have a voice and very soon. Boghossian thinks the kids should be the focus. We, adult human females, abused by "trans" are able to report the corruption.
A thousand thumbs up on this one. Married to a man who successfully masked his autism from the psych industry professionals for 35 years, I can relate a little to that position of society's seeming acceptance that it's okay to lie to a woman about your core being and the man gets validated, praised etc
The function of University is to create activists whom will be used to advance agendas
Now they're busy destroying the universities themselves.
you are a Cheyenne Dog Soldier ==we need more for America like you.
Thinking has stopped. Only reaction is left to make a decision or express a viewpoint.
It goes without saying that one should steelman opposing arguments rather than strawman them. However, I'm not sure that it's fundamentally YOUR responsibility to steelman the other side, it's more important to place the onus of steelmaning upon the person who pushes forth the argument in the first place, and hold them accountable, and if they become emotional because they are projecting an old childhood wound, than they need to be dismissed in most cases.
But it sure makes someone holding a nonsense belief feel awkward when you can make a better argument for their nonsense then they can make… and maybe makes them more willing to reconsider it.
@@DadSavesAmerica I don’t think that you can win (ultimately) by reasoning with them. You can really only win by crushing them, not persuading them. Dismissing their arguments (I.e. that biological men can become women) as the nothingness that it is is important, as the correct way to deal with nothing is to dismiss nothing. You cannot argue with them as if though nothing were something. Moreover, their allegiance to nothing (a false belief) is a projection of unresolved emotional issues from the past, ie people that want to get on the trans rights bandwagon project a rejected, abandoned or victimized part of themselves onto the trans person, and in so doing they confuse their projections with reality. When their projections are threatened, it forces them to feel the projected emotions, which they must have denied. This is the explanation for trump derangement syndrome, and if you want more sanity and more of the truth, it must bring to awareness first everything within our society that would reject it, and it will be ugly.
Peter has an important message but would have appreciated a few concrete examples from his own teaching that would give an outsider more insight into why he gave up (besides not being able to get an appointment to air his concerns)
OK - you've made some great points over the past half-a-dozen years or so - what's the plan now?
I think that maybe, we should stop all funding of any kind of college and universities and pull their accreditation until they change their curriculum to reflect those degrees that fill necessary and profitable areas that are healthy and productive for society. Our responsibility as adults and guides to our youth if to help them reach their healthy potential and become responsible, healthy, productive members of society.
What happened in 2012?
7:45 They don't want to find out what's true though. These people are in a cult. They deal with beliefs... Not facts or truth..
Logic and reason is racist 😄
PB has TDS
At 8:02 "Why would a rationale, sane, thoughtful person think that this is true?" Obviously rationale, sane, and/or thoughtful is missing from that person. :) I'm all for steelmanning the arguments for the progressive, woke, cultural marxist, or whatever they are, but I'm left thinking the only way an individual could hold some of those opinions is if they are indeed lacking in rationality or sanity. For example, the closest we come to truly settled science is that we are a sexually dimorphic species, but when the topic du jour became the rejection of that idea, the "scientific" research showed up right on queue to support it from the social, so-called, sciences.
What do you call a person who believes a well-sold lie? Rational? No, they can't be acting rationally even if they think they are. Sane? Again, no. For the same reason: Their mental constructs do not reflect reality. But it seems everywhere you look in general society, these ideas have been swallowed: Laws about pronouns; corporate training tailored to reflect this "new reality"; conversations that would have been weird even for tumblr 15 years ago, are now happening all over the place.
We are inside the spinning top and it has started to destabilize. I'm afraid we are too close to the axis of rotation to be able to apply enough force to re-stabilize it. That means either to force will have to be external (a truly horrifying thought) or it will have to be an orchestrated, united response, which seems infeasible once you realize the people who hold this ideology have implanted themselves everywhere: Every tier of the education system; board rooms; HR departments; virtually any form of media that you encounter; the vast majority of tech; the list goes on.
In 1999 the effort to control the language was in full swing with "political correctness". Control the language, control the thoughts.
“I taught critical thinking” 😂 not that it is funny. But it’s so absurd right now when I hear “critical thinking” together with “teaching”😂 is the immediate reaction…
Nowadays, what universities call "critical thinking" is in fact leftist indoctrination.
Jordan Peterson number x
Communism