Great video..The F-14 was always the dream plane to build.. I still have the plans I bought from MAN magazine back in the 80s when we had ducted fans.. Wow, you build for Jet Hanger Hobbies.. I remember them.. They had a great F-14 kit that I always wanted so I can build one my way.. PNP is nice but too easy.. Looking forward to the maiden flight.. By the way , that's a beautiful A-7 in the background..
+PatBALEX Thanks! I hear you! Yeah, my dad (Larry Wolfe) is the owner of JHH. Which F-14 kit are you talking about? The smalelr EDF or the 1/10 scale (never really was a full kit). I just recently picked up an unstarted DCU F-14 kit which I'm really stoked about. It's the same size as the 1/10 scale my folks have, just fully engineered so I don't have to figure it all out, haha! A big F-14 has always been my bucket list build. :)
+The RC Geek I think it was the parcel kit that didn't have the wood.. My old MAN plans are for a 90mm fan but Wow,, you got a DCU kit.. I first saw one at the Toledo Expo back in the early 90s.. I still have a picture of the kit on display.. After that I never hear from them again.. I think I may still have JHH's web address written down somewhere.. I'm going to have to look them up again.. Thanks.
+PatBALEX My folks are still selling builders kits, the web address is www.jethangar.com. There aren't too many places you can buy builders kits anymore unfortunately. Are the MAN plans the same as what are known as the Avonds plans? OR are they something different? The Avonds plans were for twin glow fans and drawn at 1/10 scale.
+The RC Geek I believe they're the Avonds plans.. Plans are for 46 size Ducted Fan glow engines.. And they show how to use 2 coffee cans as ducts.. Thanks for the web site.. I hung on to them until I became a better builder..
I was 13 when top gun hit the movies and remember sitting in the theater as if it were just yesterday!! By far my Favorite fighter jet of all time!! Great job. I believe skymaster Develops a bigger one.
Yeah, the F-14 is just an awesome brute force fighter and one of my favs as well. Skymaster does have a 1/7 scale tomcat...that's also about a $20,000 model too by the time it's all said and done. I actually have a 1/10 scale Tomcat I plan to build once I can clear the bench of some other projects.
Woah at first I was like ahh this guy is calm and cool but when you start assembly I guess you had to many cups of coffee cause I couldn’t keep up...jk I was like 8 when topgun came out I can remember crying when goose dies, but yeah I’m getting this plane now 🙏 thank you
Sounds like your father and some friends of mine are in the same business. They built the Spruce Goose for Rocketeer, Also a F-117 full size for the movie Executive Decision (there's a good story behind that with MP's from a near by base). The F-117 has been in multiple movies also including Philadelphia Experiment 2, and many more.
Take a look at this video, it goes through the programming: ua-cam.com/video/5jyhcCBc0mk/v-deo.html That being said, it requires 9 channels to get the full span flaps and maintain the aileron functionality. If limited to 8 channels, it may be worth just sticking with the stock setup. Or, if full span flaps is a must, you could look at tying the flaps and ailerons together mechanically and using them as flaperons.
The reason I watched this vid(which is a great vid btw)is because I keeping getting ads on other vids I’m watching for this rc plane. When I went to ‘visit advertiser’, it brings me to a website called ‘winter rose’. The jet is listed for $19.99 + $14.99 shipping. I’m surprised that UA-cam openly and blatantly allows scammers to come on here to poach and rip people off. But hey if they’re paying for advertising then I guess it ok, right UA-cam?
Dude where did you get the F14 Tomcat from, I need one, and Top Gun is the Best Movie I watched it a Billion times and its still my favourite movie. No one can beat Top Gun and its Star Aircraft, The Legendary F14 Tomcat.
i received Freewing F14 last week and flew twice. Everything was fine... I used Spektrum DX9 and used my 9 receiver. How can I use the same as your setup? Your aileron setup is same as flaps for take off and landing. The wing sweep in when fly faster , the aileron does not need to do at all. How can I set up for all these? Your F14 setup is like the Real one?
I’ve done my care share of turbine ops. The reason I don’t go that way mostly is because the events I fly at locally don’t allow turbines. So, I stick with electric so I can fly the airplanes I want to at the events. SoCal isn’t overly turbine friendly.
Yeah, that's a complete scam. Highly doubtful that what you see is what you will get..if you get anything at all. I've seen a few similar ads on facebook where they've taken flight footage from various internet outlets (including motion rc) to make an advertisement. For example showing an RC F-22 for $60 using Freewing F-22 footage. Yeah, I don't think so. If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
I got a whole lot of airplane for about $20....same plane, not through Motion RC or a typical retailer, because it was a promo price. Given I'm a Top Gun fan, I may do an aggressor Cat...just because
I’ll be curious to know what arrives. One guy on here had some micro metal earth kit arrive of some other airplane. Again, don’t expect it to be a freewing tomcat. If it’s too good to be true, it usually is.
Yes, you could do tailerons only and full span flaps with 8 channels. One of the aileron servos would require reversing, so that could be handled through a y harness with servo reverser.
The only means of partial sweep that I know if is to mechanically rig the wings such that full aft sweep is partial sweep. It's shown in the instructions. They use retract units, so they only move full direction either way until they hit the microswitch in the units.
Awesome build review! Quick question: Did the radio set require 9 channels? Based on how you set up the flaperons and the different configs in swept vs open, I'm counting at least 8. Do you still fly this thing all these years later? I'm just getting back into the hobby after 20 years and have been really impressed on how far electric has come!
i am going to buy Freewing f14 with two battery :6S-5500 mah of 45C for Wild Scorpion. The size is 53x49x148 mm HxWxL, 806 g. Can these batteries fit them in F14 ?
The F-14 with the wings extended is a great flying airplane! It's a very user friendly configuration. That said, you do want to be n experienced pilot flying high performance aircraft. Also, with the wings swept, you do need to be on your game a bit more and ensure that it's setup properly. I love how this Tomcat flies personally.
+pshkong My statement was that it's about a 60% mix and actually I converged to 56%. this is only valid for full span flaps as with the stock flap setup, I didn't find that much of a mix was needed.
So, there’s not a lot of reinforcement in the gear area and the foam can get soft over time. On my refinish, I embedded some carbon tubes. I will be talking about that in my refinish series once it’s done, but there are some pictures of what I did on my Facebook page: facebook.com/860366194001501/posts/3729059920465433/
Hello, do you know if it´s possible on a dx9 or any radio to give you warnings about speed? I mean wouldn´t be nice a stall warning for this kind of jets
+daniel alessandrini There is a way to do that, but it requires telemetry and an airspeed sensor. You could then setup a warning to go off at a certain speed that you know is close to stall speed. That being said, the F-14 gives a fair warning when it's close to stall. The wings actually start to rock which is an indication to increase the speed.
I use my Spektrum dx9 and use rx 9 and follow yours: ch 1 Throttle ch 2 elevator 1 direct into receiver ch 3 elevator 2 direct into receiver ch 4 Rudder (from the board) ch 5 gear (from the board) ch 6 flaps (from the board) ch 7 aileron 1 (direct from the wing of the plane) ch 8 aileron 2 (direct from the wing of the plane) ch 9 swept: (from the board) and use Aircraft Type in my Spektrum to Elevon A. It does not work...what others do I need to do?
yes, you need elevon control setup. Can you be more specific as to what isn't working? Is it just the mixing? Which controls aren't working? Did I send you the Dx9 file that I have for this setup?
The deactivation of the flap and aileron is done through the swing wing switch assignment. When the wings are swept back, your aileron and flap mixes should be "off" or deactivated. Then when the swing wing switch is moved to the extended wing position, the flap and aileron mixes should be "on" or activated.
+RCWASPOVISION Yup! :) He also did Iron Eagle 1 & 2 and Firefox. We still have the molds for the models that were made...except Firefox. People still ask about that one from time to time, haha
+The RC Geek Wow, that's impressive mate! I remember watching a "Making of Top Gun" back in the 80's and how they used the scale jets in some scenes. Watching the movie recently I was trying to pick them. lol!
Chris, Would the 12 Ch Sky Flight Hobby 2.4GHz Tx, and Rec sold at Banana Hobby be OK for this ship? Would really prefer not to spend 200-500 bucks for the Futaba's and what-alls!! Thanx, Gb bg
I'm not familiar with the Sky Flight radio. What kind of mixing capability does it have? I'm guessing that it could be made to work somehow, but I don't know anything about the features.
I just got a Freewing F-14 Tomcat PNP 90mm EDF Did u use this on your F-14 ? Admiral RX1000 10-Channel DSMX I’m new into this RC World… Can I use this RadioMaster TX16S MKII V4.0 Hall Gimbals ELRS JP4IN1 Transmitter Remote Control Multi-protocol OpenTX with this Admiral RX1000 10-Channel DSMX ?
As far as I know that should work (I’m most familiar with Spektrum). You need a minimum of 7 channels for this model and that appears to provide 10 channels, so gives you options if you want to explore custom programming.
The airplane is marginal on grass with the stock power system. It does it, but the acceleration to takeoff can take a while depending on the depth and smoothness of the grass. There's an upgraded inrunner power system that will help reduce the takeoff ground roll on grass which has given guys the best success.
I started setting up my Spektrum 9 channel receiver and realized I needed an aux5 channel. I wasn't 100% sure what went into the Aux4 channel (Flap or Variable Sweep Wing). So I guessed Flaps. That left the Variable Sweep Wing with no where to plug into. So my question is, are you y-harnessing the "Flap and Variable Sweep Wing"? Or are you using a 12 channel receiver? BTW, I copied the Spektrum/Model setup you suggested. Thanks again for that!
Jeff, I'm guessing that you're plugging everything directly into the receiver? There's not enough channels to do that with the 9 channel. The only items required to be plugged directly into the receiver are the ailerons. Everything else is routed through the control board in the airplane (though, you can route tail servos directly too). Otherwise, you can y-harness the flaps, but it may require reverser in the loop too depending on the servo orientation.
The RC Geek that’s what I’ve got. Both ailerons going into auxiliary 2 and auxiliary 3 channels. And everything else going through the board. But that DX file not working. I’ll need to find someone with a working F14 and using Spektrum. Did you use a 9 or 12 channel receiver? After using up channels 2 & 3 for the ailerons. I only had aux 4 available but I still needed to plug in the Flap and Variable Sweep Wing connections. So I pulled out a 12 channel. So not really sure what my problem is.
Yeah, I'm not sure why you're ending up with extra channels required. What specifically isn't working about the file? Here's the channel assignment list that was in the zip file with the Dx file. If you're assignments are aligned with this, it should work. Aux 4 is the wing sweep. Rx port assignments are: Throttle-throttle Aileron: Right Tail (elevon) Elevator: Left Tail (elevon) Rudder: Rudder Gear: Gear Aux1: Flap Aux2: Aux2 (wing rt aileron) Aux3: Aux3 (wing lt aileron) Aux4: Aux4 (wing sweep) Aux5: Aux5
I still can not understand... Can you have another UA-cam in detail how to set up for my spectrum dx9 and the rx 9 ch. ? Please detail in a UA-cam for F14. Most other people would like to see yours in detail. Thanks
I've considered this, but the difficulty is that I don't have this setup on a spektrum since I've been using airtronics. I do have a couple dx model files I can email you though. Shoot me an email through my contact form at thercgeek.com and I can send what I have.
Also, here are a couple notes from my friend who setup his F-14 on a Dx9. Using my DX-9, I kept the stock aileron and elevator chanels from the board to the receiver. Then I separated the two aileron chanels and made them my Aux2 and Aux3. From there, you are able to set up a mix from Aileron to Aux 2 and Aileron to Aux 3 and have it be one sided, so only the one side raises when inputitng roll. Lastly, I had my wing sweep on a single two-position switch that is also a flight mode switch. Then, in your mixes for Aileron to Aux2 and Aux3 you can set it to enable only in the selected flight mode. I also used the mix in a flight mode to dissable my flaps with wings swept with a Flap>Flap mix that's simply -100% and enabled in the swept flight mode. 1 throttle 2 aileron 3 elevator 4 rudder 5 Gear 6 Aux 1 - Flap 7 Aux 2 - AileronR 7 Aux 3 - AileronL 9 Aux 4 - Wing Sweep
+blinkguy4ever I will cover more of this in my flight review when I get that finished up. In order to do what I've done exactly, you need a minimum of 9 channels as the ailerons need to be plugged directly into the receiver using 2 aux channels bypassing the stock electronics board. From there, to actuate the ailerons, you need to use a channel mix mixed with your aileron channel. I assigned my swing wing switch to the aileron channel mix such that it's on with wings extended and then off with the wings swept which then disables the ailerons in the swept wing config. Within the channel mix is where you assign the deflection of the aileron servos. Note that it will not work in combination with dual rates since it's outside of the actual ailerons channel. Also, I tied my aileron dual rates to the swing wing switch so that with the wings swept, the ailerons automatically reduce to low rates. This is important as the airplane will otherwise be crazy touchy in roll with the wings swept on tailerons at high rate. Note that you get plenty of authority running tailerons only, I've flown the airplane in that configuration and it works very well. However, you will need to move the ailerons input to max deflection for a decent 360 degree roll. I found the stock taileron/aileron combo too hot for my liking. I don't like my airplanes rolling like a drillbit. I'm using an Airtronics SD-10G radio, so can really only talk to that. However, the methodology should be similar. If you're limited on channels, then we'll have to figure out some other options. Running tailerons only is a good option if channel limited.
Hi, I am planning to use 2 6000mah 55c packs, the measure at 148 x 49 x 64mm and 810g, size wise they fit in, but I'm worried about balance issues, some guys say that the plane balances best with lipos that weight about 750g, so 810g might be a bit over weight. what are the weight of your 5800s and did you have any balance issues
I just put one of the 5800 packs on the scale and it came out at 850g, so I think you're good. The airplane does balance a little nose heavy there, but the airplane flies awesome at that CG. Which 6000 packs are they? Can you send me a link to them? Also, I'm not sure if you've seen it, but if not my flight review is here: ua-cam.com/video/aemFYyQq6KY/v-deo.html
Chris, do you think that the landing gear plates and the extended plywood battery tray are a good add on? Seems like a decent amount of modding to install them.
Well, reinforcing the gear mounts in some way isn’t bad. The gear mounts as is can get soft over time, especially if the runway is rough and/or you have some hard landings. On my most recent one, I simply embedded and glued in some carbon tubes behind and above the gear which seems to have really stiffened them up. I have my first f14 refinish video posting next month hopefully which will talk about the modification.
@@Thercgeekso you think the battery tray mod I can forego? I know it is something you should do before gluing the fuselage. It is there only thing stopping me from starting there build. I sent you an email to the one you have listed. Don't want to gum up your comments with all my questions!
Reinforcing the nose probably isn’t bad, but I don’t find it a necessity. if you’re operating from grass, may not be a bad idea. I don’t have any reinforcement in the nose area on mine.
@@Thercgeek Thanks for the recommendation Chris. I originally chatted with you a few months ago asking if I could fly it off grass, I have since then found a field with a paved runway mainly for this plane, lol. I downloaded your DX9 config file and noticed that it is spec'd for a 9 channel receiver. I wanted to have the comfort of SAFE along with AS3X so I bought a Spektrum AR8360T which is only 8 channels. What am I losing by not having the extra channel, and can I adapt your DX9 config for 8 channels?
With the 8channels, you won’t be able to do all the programming mods I did. That requires both ailerons to be on separate channels that get mixed in separately. Mostly, you could set it up to disable the ailerons with wings swept with the 8th channel by connecting the ailerons on a yharness and setting them up on the 8th channel.
Hey Chris, is your last name Halton? I ask because years ago I purchased a F14 plan sheet designed by Matt Halton, which sure looks like the Prototype you first built, (Balsa const.) with a W/S of 57" (extended)?? Thanx for the "DANGER ZONE" Vid, great job, and EXCELLENT info.! Gb bg
Thanks! :) My last name is actually Wolfe. The F-14 prototype is from the Matt Halton design...I helped develop a kit from that design for my folks (jethangar.com) with permission from Matt. It was an awesome flyer!
Hi ....I noticed you are using a fhss3 airtronics receiver that is meant to be used with analog servos only. I'm pretty sure the servos in pretty much all Freewing planes are analog so you are flirting with servo failiure somewhere down the line. The frame rate is too high for analog servos. I love these pnp jets from freewing but it really sucks i cant use my expensive fhss3 receivers with them unless you change the servos to digital. Have you had any issues???
Hi Alex, I was concerned with this initially, but I have not had any issues at all to this point. I somewhat recently replaced the taileron servos with hitech digitals mostly because the stock servos are pretty sloppy and marginal for the task they are asked to perform.
Thats great to hear. Definitely will test on the bench before I fly if I decide to use that receiver with the new Stinger 90 I'm awaiting. Thanks for the reply.
The issue is once you get to composite construction, the price increases substantially. So, the foam allows for an inexpensive and accessible model. There is an F-14 all built up wood kit available from jethangar.com which is probably on the same order of cost as this one. There's also a 1/7 scale all composite F-14 too from skymaster, but it is an order magnitude more expensive.
The RC Geek wow thanks for the info I’m learning to fly with an Apprentice for six months and then I moved to a fan jet for six months and then I move up to the real deal turbines
www.autors.tw/shop/product_info.php?products_id=196 these are what I'm using. I am currently working in Asia so other big name brands aren't exactly available here,but ive been using this company for a few years and they've worked fine in my windrider 737 twin as well
well in my windrider 737 I have 2 1850kv outrunners with 2 Ztw-80esc, I run one of those 6000mah 55c battery for 2 motors, pulls 108A 2200W, after a 4 min run only the plugs are warm(XT150 5mm) and its need holding up better than my other 5000mah 30c battery, after 3 mins the wires and plugs on the 30c battery is very hot(can hold it to unplug it but you wouldn't want to hold it for very long)
Very thorough and succinct. Thanks! Look forward to the flight review.
+EDFjetflyer Thanks!
Tony Hawk is that you!?!
I thought the same thing
Just got my F-14 Tomcat and getting ready to assemble
Nice!!
@@Thercgeek I got it to the point where I got everything but Wing sweep
What is u b e c / b e c
I love this jet. Just bought a Freewing 80mm L39. I think this will have to be next!
Awesome!
Great video..The F-14 was always the dream plane to build.. I still have the plans I bought from MAN magazine back in the 80s when we had ducted fans.. Wow, you build for Jet Hanger Hobbies.. I remember them.. They had a great F-14 kit that I always wanted so I can build one my way.. PNP is nice but too easy.. Looking forward to the maiden flight.. By the way , that's a beautiful A-7 in the background..
+PatBALEX Thanks! I hear you! Yeah, my dad (Larry Wolfe) is the owner of JHH. Which F-14 kit are you talking about? The smalelr EDF or the 1/10 scale (never really was a full kit). I just recently picked up an unstarted DCU F-14 kit which I'm really stoked about. It's the same size as the 1/10 scale my folks have, just fully engineered so I don't have to figure it all out, haha! A big F-14 has always been my bucket list build. :)
+The RC Geek I think it was the parcel kit that didn't have the wood.. My old MAN plans are for a 90mm fan but Wow,, you got a DCU kit.. I first saw one at the Toledo Expo back in the early 90s.. I still have a picture of the kit on display.. After that I never hear from them again.. I think I may still have JHH's web address written down somewhere.. I'm going to have to look them up again.. Thanks.
+PatBALEX My folks are still selling builders kits, the web address is www.jethangar.com. There aren't too many places you can buy builders kits anymore unfortunately. Are the MAN plans the same as what are known as the Avonds plans? OR are they something different? The Avonds plans were for twin glow fans and drawn at 1/10 scale.
+The RC Geek I believe they're the Avonds plans.. Plans are for 46 size Ducted Fan glow engines.. And they show how to use 2 coffee cans as ducts.. Thanks for the web site.. I hung on to them until I became a better builder..
PatBALEX, A-7, the Man Eater ! Doesn’t the intake look like a sharks mouth ? The Carrier I was on had a man sucked into an A-7 on the flight deck...
I was 13 when top gun hit the movies and remember sitting in the theater as if it were just yesterday!! By far my Favorite fighter jet of all time!!
Great job. I believe skymaster Develops a bigger one.
Yeah, the F-14 is just an awesome brute force fighter and one of my favs as well. Skymaster does have a 1/7 scale tomcat...that's also about a $20,000 model too by the time it's all said and done. I actually have a 1/10 scale Tomcat I plan to build once I can clear the bench of some other projects.
Thanks!!! Built this for my daughter. You are awsome.
It has been a while since I watched it, but your understanding of Top Gun might be off a bit. Great video.
Nope, it’s totally a love story between iceman and maverick! 🤪. Thanks for watching!
Stunt double for the Birdman for sure! Love the vid and tips as I'm buliding mine now. I'm nervous just thinking of the maiden!
Good luck on the maiden! It’s a great flying jet.
Hi Chris. Very nice and illustrative videos. Thnx for sharing
Thanks for watching! :)
Woah at first I was like ahh this guy is calm and cool but when you start assembly I guess you had to many cups of coffee cause I couldn’t keep up...jk I was like 8 when topgun came out I can remember crying when goose dies, but yeah I’m getting this plane now 🙏 thank you
When get rev’d up, I really get rev’d up! 🤣
@@Thercgeek lmao
Great video Chris!
Thanks Tony!
Sounds like your father and some friends of mine are in the same business.
They built the Spruce Goose for Rocketeer, Also a F-117 full size for the movie Executive Decision (there's a good story behind that with MP's from a near by base). The F-117 has been in multiple movies also including Philadelphia Experiment 2, and many more.
Very cool!
Could you please show me how to setup full span flaps on 8ch with all your throughs
Take a look at this video, it goes through the programming: ua-cam.com/video/5jyhcCBc0mk/v-deo.html That being said, it requires 9 channels to get the full span flaps and maintain the aileron functionality. If limited to 8 channels, it may be worth just sticking with the stock setup. Or, if full span flaps is a must, you could look at tying the flaps and ailerons together mechanically and using them as flaperons.
Absolutely amazing
Chris, do you have a video of your radio setup for this plane? Thanks, Jayson
Yes, there are a couple. This is the latest one: ua-cam.com/video/5jyhcCBc0mk/v-deo.html
The reason I watched this vid(which is a great vid btw)is because I keeping getting ads on other vids I’m watching for this rc plane. When I went to ‘visit advertiser’, it brings me to a website called ‘winter rose’. The jet is listed for $19.99 + $14.99 shipping. I’m surprised that UA-cam openly and blatantly allows scammers to come on here to poach and rip people off. But hey if they’re paying for advertising then I guess it ok, right UA-cam?
Yeah, it’s unfortunate. I’ve seen those ads on Facebook too. The bottom line, if it’s too good to be true, it usually is...
is it me or this guy looks just like Tony Hawk
I’ve heard that before. 😂
Exactly like Tony.
Yeah!!!
try an Iranian tomcat paint sceme..... looks awesome in camo
+DeiselDemon I hear you on the Iranian camo...but there are plenty of very interesting US schemes I'd rather go for. ;)
Dude where did you get the F14 Tomcat from, I need one, and Top Gun is the Best Movie I watched it a Billion times and its still my favourite movie. No one can beat Top Gun and its Star Aircraft, The Legendary F14 Tomcat.
Thanks Dude
i received Freewing F14 last week and flew twice. Everything was fine... I used Spektrum DX9 and used my 9 receiver. How can I use the same as your setup? Your aileron setup is same as flaps for take off and landing. The wing sweep in when fly faster , the aileron does not need to do at all. How can I set up for all these? Your F14 setup is like the Real one?
Is the freewing f14 worth getting? How does it fly? Is it durable? Thanks
The FW F-14 is a great flying jet. It’s still one of my favorite freewing aircraft.
Stupid question, but does it come with the battery packs and transceivers for the controls or did you have to buy it separately?
It does not. Those are items to be supplied by the modeler.
Have you thought about doing a conversion from edf to turbine?
I’ve done my care share of turbine ops. The reason I don’t go that way mostly is because the events I fly at locally don’t allow turbines. So, I stick with electric so I can fly the airplanes I want to at the events. SoCal isn’t overly turbine friendly.
Today i received an ad from Wingo.store with what appeared to be this exact model.. for $9.99 minus battery. What's the scam?
Yeah, that's a complete scam. Highly doubtful that what you see is what you will get..if you get anything at all. I've seen a few similar ads on facebook where they've taken flight footage from various internet outlets (including motion rc) to make an advertisement. For example showing an RC F-22 for $60 using Freewing F-22 footage. Yeah, I don't think so. If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
Yea I got an ad from some website for 19.99. I feel bad for people who actually wasted their money
Same. I eventually got a laser cut metal puzzle of a biplane 45 days later instead of this cool plane
I got a whole lot of airplane for about $20....same plane, not through Motion RC or a typical retailer, because it was a promo price. Given I'm a Top Gun fan, I may do an aggressor Cat...just because
Has it arrived yet? Don’t expect to receive an rc tomcat for that price.
@@Thercgeek given it's coming directly from China....it'll take a while
I’ll be curious to know what arrives. One guy on here had some micro metal earth kit arrive of some other airplane. Again, don’t expect it to be a freewing tomcat. If it’s too good to be true, it usually is.
So I have a dx8 gen2 ....I'm wondering if this is going to be enough channels to set it up the way u did??...thanks
To set this up exactly as I did requires 9 channels unfortunately because each of the ailerons require their own separate channel.
@@Thercgeek so for the 8 channels I would only be able to fly tailerons and the full flaps as well or no?...and thank u again for helping me
Yes, you could do tailerons only and full span flaps with 8 channels. One of the aileron servos would require reversing, so that could be handled through a y harness with servo reverser.
Great Info - Is there capability for a partial wing sweep or is all or nothing ???
The only means of partial sweep that I know if is to mechanically rig the wings such that full aft sweep is partial sweep. It's shown in the instructions. They use retract units, so they only move full direction either way until they hit the microswitch in the units.
I really want it!How much?
Check out motionrc.com
Awesome build review! Quick question: Did the radio set require 9 channels? Based on how you set up the flaperons and the different configs in swept vs open, I'm counting at least 8. Do you still fly this thing all these years later? I'm just getting back into the hobby after 20 years and have been really impressed on how far electric has come!
Yeah, to setup the airplane the way I did here requires 9 channels. You need 2 channels for the ailerons to work as flaperons too.
i am going to buy Freewing f14 with two battery :6S-5500 mah of 45C for Wild Scorpion. The size is 53x49x148 mm HxWxL, 806 g. Can these batteries fit them in F14 ?
Those should fit. They appear to be a very similar footprint to the 5800s that I'm using.
I want to get this one but a lot of people are saying it’s so hard to fly. What do you think?
The F-14 with the wings extended is a great flying airplane! It's a very user friendly configuration. That said, you do want to be n experienced pilot flying high performance aircraft. Also, with the wings swept, you do need to be on your game a bit more and ensure that it's setup properly. I love how this Tomcat flies personally.
Is it 16pct elevator compensation or 60pct for the full span flap? Thanks!
+pshkong My statement was that it's about a 60% mix and actually I converged to 56%. this is only valid for full span flaps as with the stock flap setup, I didn't find that much of a mix was needed.
Also I see RCINFORMER advised of some landing gear issues. Is this true or any issue with said gear. Thanks
So, there’s not a lot of reinforcement in the gear area and the foam can get soft over time. On my refinish, I embedded some carbon tubes. I will be talking about that in my refinish series once it’s done, but there are some pictures of what I did on my Facebook page: facebook.com/860366194001501/posts/3729059920465433/
@@Thercgeek do you know if I could stick a spectrum receiver with safe and As3x in there?
Yeah, one of the newer smart receivers should work. You need minimum of 7channels for this one, so keep that in mind when shooing for receivers.
Hello, do you know if it´s possible on a dx9 or any radio to give you warnings about speed? I mean wouldn´t be nice a stall warning for this kind of jets
+daniel alessandrini There is a way to do that, but it requires telemetry and an airspeed sensor. You could then setup a warning to go off at a certain speed that you know is close to stall speed. That being said, the F-14 gives a fair warning when it's close to stall. The wings actually start to rock which is an indication to increase the speed.
The RC Geek thank you very much!
I use my Spektrum dx9 and use rx 9 and follow yours:
ch 1 Throttle
ch 2 elevator 1 direct into receiver
ch 3 elevator 2 direct into receiver
ch 4 Rudder (from the board)
ch 5 gear (from the board)
ch 6 flaps (from the board)
ch 7 aileron 1 (direct from the wing of the plane)
ch 8 aileron 2 (direct from the wing of the plane)
ch 9 swept: (from the board)
and use Aircraft Type in my Spektrum to Elevon A.
It does not work...what others do I need to do?
What doesn't work? Do you have all of the mixing setup between the surfaces?
No...please tell me use the mixing setup. Did i use Elevon correct or not?
How can I deactive the flap and the aileron when the wing sweep ...
yes, you need elevon control setup. Can you be more specific as to what isn't working? Is it just the mixing? Which controls aren't working? Did I send you the Dx9 file that I have for this setup?
The deactivation of the flap and aileron is done through the swing wing switch assignment. When the wings are swept back, your aileron and flap mixes should be "off" or deactivated. Then when the swing wing switch is moved to the extended wing position, the flap and aileron mixes should be "on" or activated.
Holy crap, that was your dad?!
+RCWASPOVISION Yup! :) He also did Iron Eagle 1 & 2 and Firefox. We still have the molds for the models that were made...except Firefox. People still ask about that one from time to time, haha
+The RC Geek Wow, that's impressive mate! I remember watching a "Making of Top Gun" back in the 80's and how they used the scale jets in some scenes. Watching the movie recently I was trying to pick them. lol!
Chris, Would the 12 Ch Sky Flight Hobby 2.4GHz Tx, and Rec sold at Banana Hobby be OK for this ship? Would really prefer not to spend 200-500 bucks for the Futaba's and what-alls!! Thanx, Gb bg
I'm not familiar with the Sky Flight radio. What kind of mixing capability does it have? I'm guessing that it could be made to work somehow, but I don't know anything about the features.
Hi, do you think the discharge rate of the Turnigy nano-tech 6000mah 6S 25~50C Lipo Pack it´s ok for this plane? thanks
+daniel alessandrini Yup, the nano 6000s will work fine. I'm using them in a higher amp application than the F-14 and they perform very well.
great thanks a lot!
Where do you buy it?
Motionrc.com
I just got a Freewing F-14 Tomcat PNP 90mm EDF
Did u use this on your F-14 ?
Admiral RX1000 10-Channel DSMX
I’m new into this RC World…
Can I use this RadioMaster TX16S MKII V4.0 Hall Gimbals ELRS JP4IN1 Transmitter Remote Control Multi-protocol OpenTX with this Admiral RX1000 10-Channel DSMX ?
As far as I know that should work (I’m most familiar with Spektrum). You need a minimum of 7 channels for this model and that appears to provide 10 channels, so gives you options if you want to explore custom programming.
Thx ☺️ 😊
Would I be ok flying off grass?
The airplane is marginal on grass with the stock power system. It does it, but the acceleration to takeoff can take a while depending on the depth and smoothness of the grass. There's an upgraded inrunner power system that will help reduce the takeoff ground roll on grass which has given guys the best success.
I started setting up my Spektrum 9 channel receiver and realized I needed an aux5 channel. I wasn't 100% sure what went into the Aux4 channel (Flap or Variable Sweep Wing). So I guessed Flaps. That left the Variable Sweep Wing with no where to plug into.
So my question is, are you y-harnessing the "Flap and Variable Sweep Wing"? Or are you using a 12 channel receiver?
BTW, I copied the Spektrum/Model setup you suggested. Thanks again for that!
Jeff, I'm guessing that you're plugging everything directly into the receiver? There's not enough channels to do that with the 9 channel. The only items required to be plugged directly into the receiver are the ailerons. Everything else is routed through the control board in the airplane (though, you can route tail servos directly too). Otherwise, you can y-harness the flaps, but it may require reverser in the loop too depending on the servo orientation.
The RC Geek that’s what I’ve got. Both ailerons going into auxiliary 2 and auxiliary 3 channels. And everything else going through the board. But that DX file not working. I’ll need to find someone with a working F14 and using Spektrum.
Did you use a 9 or 12 channel receiver? After using up channels 2 & 3 for the ailerons. I only had aux 4 available but I still needed to plug in the Flap and Variable Sweep Wing connections. So I pulled out a 12 channel. So not really sure what my problem is.
Yeah, I'm not sure why you're ending up with extra channels required. What specifically isn't working about the file? Here's the channel assignment list that was in the zip file with the Dx file. If you're assignments are aligned with this, it should work. Aux 4 is the wing sweep.
Rx port assignments are:
Throttle-throttle
Aileron: Right Tail (elevon)
Elevator: Left Tail (elevon)
Rudder: Rudder
Gear: Gear
Aux1: Flap
Aux2: Aux2 (wing rt aileron)
Aux3: Aux3 (wing lt aileron)
Aux4: Aux4 (wing sweep)
Aux5: Aux5
been looking your videos on F14 and nice setup!! I need help to set the same way you have it with my DX9 can you help ?
Sure! Shoot me an email through my contact form on my website (thercgeek.com) and I can send you a DX9 file.
ty I did send you an Email!
Reply sent. Sorry for the delay, I was out of town this past weekend.
The RC Geek np is all good ty
I still can not understand... Can you have another UA-cam in detail how to set up for my spectrum dx9 and the rx 9 ch. ? Please detail in a UA-cam for F14. Most other people would like to see yours in detail. Thanks
I've considered this, but the difficulty is that I don't have this setup on a spektrum since I've been using airtronics. I do have a couple dx model files I can email you though. Shoot me an email through my contact form at thercgeek.com and I can send what I have.
Also, here are a couple notes from my friend who setup his F-14 on a Dx9.
Using my DX-9, I kept the stock aileron and elevator chanels from the board to the receiver. Then I separated the two aileron chanels and made them my Aux2 and Aux3. From there, you are able to set up a mix from Aileron to Aux 2 and Aileron to Aux 3 and have it be one sided, so only the one side raises when inputitng roll. Lastly, I had my wing sweep on a single two-position switch that is also a flight mode switch. Then, in your mixes for Aileron to Aux2 and Aux3 you can set it to enable only in the selected flight mode. I also used the mix in a flight mode to dissable my flaps with wings swept with a Flap>Flap mix that's simply -100% and enabled in the swept flight mode.
1 throttle
2 aileron
3 elevator
4 rudder
5 Gear
6 Aux 1 - Flap
7 Aux 2 - AileronR
7 Aux 3 - AileronL
9 Aux 4 - Wing Sweep
how much one like this?
This F-14 is available through MotionRC.com and sells for $549.
hey buddy. I need some help setting the tailerons just like yours? how do you do that? thanks man
+blinkguy4ever I will cover more of this in my flight review when I get that finished up. In order to do what I've done exactly, you need a minimum of 9 channels as the ailerons need to be plugged directly into the receiver using 2 aux channels bypassing the stock electronics board. From there, to actuate the ailerons, you need to use a channel mix mixed with your aileron channel. I assigned my swing wing switch to the aileron channel mix such that it's on with wings extended and then off with the wings swept which then disables the ailerons in the swept wing config. Within the channel mix is where you assign the deflection of the aileron servos. Note that it will not work in combination with dual rates since it's outside of the actual ailerons channel. Also, I tied my aileron dual rates to the swing wing switch so that with the wings swept, the ailerons automatically reduce to low rates. This is important as the airplane will otherwise be crazy touchy in roll with the wings swept on tailerons at high rate. Note that you get plenty of authority running tailerons only, I've flown the airplane in that configuration and it works very well. However, you will need to move the ailerons input to max deflection for a decent 360 degree roll. I found the stock taileron/aileron combo too hot for my liking. I don't like my airplanes rolling like a drillbit. I'm using an Airtronics SD-10G radio, so can really only talk to that. However, the methodology should be similar. If you're limited on channels, then we'll have to figure out some other options. Running tailerons only is a good option if channel limited.
+The RC Geek thanks a lot for the input buddy!
+blinkguy4ever No problem. I should have my flight review up in a couple weeks.
+The RC Geek can't wait : )
Hi, I am planning to use 2 6000mah 55c packs, the measure at 148 x 49 x 64mm and 810g, size wise they fit in, but I'm worried about balance issues, some guys say that the plane balances best with lipos that weight about 750g, so 810g might be a bit over weight. what are the weight of your 5800s and did you have any balance issues
I just put one of the 5800 packs on the scale and it came out at 850g, so I think you're good. The airplane does balance a little nose heavy there, but the airplane flies awesome at that CG. Which 6000 packs are they? Can you send me a link to them? Also, I'm not sure if you've seen it, but if not my flight review is here: ua-cam.com/video/aemFYyQq6KY/v-deo.html
The RC Geek
Chris, do you think that the landing gear plates and the extended plywood battery tray are a good add on? Seems like a decent amount of modding to install them.
Well, reinforcing the gear mounts in some way isn’t bad. The gear mounts as is can get soft over time, especially if the runway is rough and/or you have some hard landings. On my most recent one, I simply embedded and glued in some carbon tubes behind and above the gear which seems to have really stiffened them up. I have my first f14 refinish video posting next month hopefully which will talk about the modification.
@@Thercgeekso you think the battery tray mod I can forego? I know it is something you should do before gluing the fuselage. It is there only thing stopping me from starting there build. I sent you an email to the one you have listed. Don't want to gum up your comments with all my questions!
Reinforcing the nose probably isn’t bad, but I don’t find it a necessity. if you’re operating from grass, may not be a bad idea. I don’t have any reinforcement in the nose area on mine.
@@Thercgeek Thanks for the recommendation Chris. I originally chatted with you a few months ago asking if I could fly it off grass, I have since then found a field with a paved runway mainly for this plane, lol. I downloaded your DX9 config file and noticed that it is spec'd for a 9 channel receiver. I wanted to have the comfort of SAFE along with AS3X so I bought a Spektrum AR8360T which is only 8 channels. What am I losing by not having the extra channel, and can I adapt your DX9 config for 8 channels?
With the 8channels, you won’t be able to do all the programming mods I did. That requires both ailerons to be on separate channels that get mixed in separately. Mostly, you could set it up to disable the ailerons with wings swept with the 8th channel by connecting the ailerons on a yharness and setting them up on the 8th channel.
What was the weight rtf?
interman 77 I think the airplane comes in at about 11 lb. I didn't weigh it.
Thank you.
All the pics I've seen the real Tom Cats have tail rudder that are dihedral
Correct, the tails are canted outwards on the full scale. They are on this model too.
Hey Chris, is your last name Halton? I ask because years ago I purchased a F14 plan sheet designed by Matt Halton, which sure looks like the Prototype you first built, (Balsa const.) with a W/S of 57" (extended)?? Thanx for the "DANGER ZONE" Vid, great job, and EXCELLENT info.! Gb bg
Thanks! :) My last name is actually Wolfe. The F-14 prototype is from the Matt Halton design...I helped develop a kit from that design for my folks (jethangar.com) with permission from Matt. It was an awesome flyer!
Love en Indonesia aceh
Hi ....I noticed you are using a fhss3 airtronics receiver that is meant to be used with analog servos only. I'm pretty sure the servos in pretty much all Freewing planes are analog so you are flirting with servo failiure somewhere down the line. The frame rate is too high for analog servos. I love these pnp jets from freewing but it really sucks i cant use my expensive fhss3 receivers with them unless you change the servos to digital. Have you had any issues???
Hi Alex, I was concerned with this initially, but I have not had any issues at all to this point. I somewhat recently replaced the taileron servos with hitech digitals mostly because the stock servos are pretty sloppy and marginal for the task they are asked to perform.
Thats great to hear. Definitely will test on the bench before I fly if I decide to use that receiver with the new Stinger 90 I'm awaiting. Thanks for the reply.
Why they don’t build these planes out of carbon fiber or light wood but stronger than styrofoam
The issue is once you get to composite construction, the price increases substantially. So, the foam allows for an inexpensive and accessible model. There is an F-14 all built up wood kit available from jethangar.com which is probably on the same order of cost as this one. There's also a 1/7 scale all composite F-14 too from skymaster, but it is an order magnitude more expensive.
The RC Geek wow thanks for the info I’m learning to fly with an Apprentice for six months and then I moved to a fan jet for six months and then I move up to the real deal turbines
Tony hawks younger brother
Shoot, I taught him everything he knows! :p
The last time I checked Tomcats were boys not girls
Haha
www.autors.tw/shop/product_info.php?products_id=196
these are what I'm using. I am currently working in Asia so other big name brands aren't exactly available here,but ive been using this company for a few years and they've worked fine in my windrider 737 twin as well
Thanks for the link. The packs are very light for the capacity and c rating. Very interesting!
well in my windrider 737 I have 2 1850kv outrunners with 2 Ztw-80esc, I run one of those 6000mah 55c battery for 2 motors, pulls 108A 2200W, after a 4 min run only the plugs are warm(XT150 5mm) and its need holding up better than my other 5000mah 30c battery, after 3 mins the wires and plugs on the 30c battery is very hot(can hold it to unplug it but you wouldn't want to hold it for very long)