I trained a little bit in the Can-Am wrestling school but i'm glad I never took wrestling as a full career. I wouldn't have been able to navigate the douchey highschool politics.
@@joshuaG_Sea it's more forgiving than polyurethane sports flooring, its kinda like falling onto the box part of a mattress. The wood gives and bounces a bit but it does knock the wind out until you get used to it.
This is just beyond stupid and high school like! “Oh I am upset that you got a 1st class seat on the flight. However I won’t take it from you so I can use it to punish you later on”. What and really? So dumb, ridiculous and childish!
I haven't listened to the full video yet. Was that poor Victotia being given a 1st class seat by Trish and then chewed out later on? If it isn't, then evidently there is form for this.
If you look at it.. whatever Miz has accomplished right now he REALLY deserves it. He got bulled so bad in the locker during the Ruthless Aggression era that probably any other man woulda just packed their bags and went home but he didn't. I'd love for him to get one last feud with John Cena that would be awesome.
No proof he was ever really bullied though. Benoit went off on him one time because Mike wasn't paying attention to his surroundings and spilled his food on another talents bag. He was temporarily "kicked out" of the locker room for that (and I'm sure other) transgression. JBL would take shots at him on commentary when he started wrestling on SmackDown, but that was within kayfabe. Michael Cole would stick up for Mike and JBL would act humbled when Mike would win his matches. There aren't any stories I'm aware of concerning Mike actually being hazed/bullied behind the scenes.
@@quentinkaasa47 doesnt need to be I watched miz since he was a young dude you can definitely see the cringe egotistic attitude that he had in the early days and just played it on screen. Definitely, it would have rubbed other wrestlers the wrong way.
@@quentinkaasa47temporarily? No, he was kicked out and had to change in the public restroom, permanently. Until undertaker invited him back after Benoit did what he did.
The thing with Shelly Martinez was that both her and Melina Perez started their careers at around the time (Shelly a few months before). They trained at the same wrestling school, wrestled at the same indie promotions and were even kayfabe sisters. They were said to be genuinely very close friends for years and Martinez stood up for Perez. Might not have been the wisest thing to do, but she wanted to defend/protect her friend. Perez on the other hand... Not too long ago she did an interview and was asked about the incident. Basically, the way she told the story, she made it sound like she and Martinez didn't even know each other. I understand if they drifted apart and as Perez' star started growing she decided to upgrade, but to pretend they hardly knew each other when they've got a well-documented past. This to me, in addition to the Trish Stratus snub, getting kicked out of the locker room, stories of her being a biotch, etc. make Perez very unlikeable.
Melina Perez once tweeted a photo of one of John Morrison's E.D. med prescription bottles with his address on the label after a falling out with him. She's a pyscho. Also, there were tons of rumors at that time that Shelly and Batista had hooked up at one point so I am not sure she was confronting him on behalf of Melina or if she was confronting him because she was jealous. Also, Shelly Martinez herself was not been known to be the most stable person back then either. Rene Dupree told a story about living in the same apartment complex as her and how she left her dog unattended for days when she first went from OVW to Smackdown and how unbothered she was when he asked her about it.
The older I get, the more I learn that the vast majority of wrestlers are psychos, treat wives and GF's like garbage, have disdain for the fans, treat other talent or employees like garbage, and expect everyone to worship them.
I don't like how him and his camp badically vilified Kevin Sullivan and allegedly manifactured a lot of stories to push that believability that he was a bad guy, when he was essentially a home wrecker. (Funny how Lita and to a much lesser extent, Edge, were vilifed so much. Benoit didn't feel any backlash) It also brushes of on fans who either don't know about real life workplace expectations, or simply forego any convention irl.
Ironic that older wrestlers claim that they “wrestled in a time when men were men” and all that BS when they pull a Degrassi at every little infraction.
Shitting in each others food, drugging and stripping fellow wrestlers and leaving them naked in the hallways of hotels, shitting in peoples luggage…yep, such manly activities.
Melina has basically denied the Shelly Martinez story, but now that Shelly story is now corroborated by Richards. So Melina is not looking credible, oh well. I wonder if anyone can answer if Lita actually kicked her out of the locker room and why?
It's funny how most fans say that Benoit was a super nice n chill guy regarding autographs and taking pictures, but a total jerk backstage with the talent lol
I trained at Squared Circle under Fuego 14 years ago and this was the culture, especially the Ontario indies. Fuego himself was a good man, if a bit of a guy you didn't wanna piss off. but some of the people at his school (and who later spun out into all the other places) literally do this to this day. After a year and a half and then one Quebec tour? I was done. I can relate to the Matt Striker story. People like that don't *want* to be adults and show you what you do wrong and even when you constantly say - as an 18, 19, 20, 21 year old kid - you don't want to start anything, you get egged on and they treat you like ass so they can frame any action against you as justified. They still do it too, even some of the referees. Mouthing off to cosplayers and telling stories in instagram pages and what not to try and get you canceled. For cosplay. The lowest of the low hanging fruit in pop culture. (EDIT: Full disclosure, I am not entirely faultless. I fell into it after *being* egged on and *did* make an ass of myself in the process. Nevertheless...) These are overdeveloped children who all want the top spot and they will ruin you just to stay there.
I understand Shelly was trying to be a good friend, but she probably should’ve minded her business because Melina doesn’t even talk to her anymore. (Which is messed up)
A good analogy is this - find a group of stray feral cats - dump a bag of food - and you'll see them do the same BS you will see in some (not all) wrestling locker rooms. Seriously - that's exactly how it is sometimes. 97% of the other people that you will meet will be friendly and fun to be around - but be aware of that other 3% - they do exist and their douchebaggery has no limits.
@@BlackjackDSapolisthat’s why I don’t fully believe the whole “the locker room and backstage is so much better now in wwe” bs I always hear. There’ll always be stooges and douches trying to snake their way to the top.
Don Callis sucks at his job. Guy barely had any success in the business until AEW came about. He gets reactions from their dwindling audience, but only in an ironic sense. He's nothing like Paul Heyman.
Gimme a break 😂 He really isn't anywhere near as talented as Paul and there was no need to insult him like that 😒 I get he is being spoken of well in this video, but that is a loony thing to say 😂 Oh and the small matter of potentially being a sex pest too might just be an issue as to.why he isn't a bigger deal today.
@@Paotato69Or you are blinded by your love for it. He was hating on Don, not AEW. AEW made him the most relevant he has ever been (since he wasn't in WWF long), and was on air when it was at its most popular. Unless you wish to argue that AEW hasn't lost a huge amount of viewership in the past couple years? Where is the hate?
Yo i love what podcast has done with ex wwe wrestlers. Really dope stuff. Yo steven richards for some reason i still remember you in SDVS RW. Good ole days stay blessed man. Keep up the good work 👊
Don’t forget Don also was with NJWP then Jericho got him his job at TNA to AEW . Don had Kenny and Jericho as his friends to help which leads me to believe Don is very likable guy .
I’m still lost on this first class ticket thing. Are these guys buys first class tickets for themselves and then being forced to give up their seats or were they given to them by the company?
Problem is Wrestlers court picked on the wrestlers lower down the ladder, the top guys were never bothered, who's going to bring Undertaker to court if he's "The Judge" doesn't seem right or moral
I can totally understand Matt Striker rubbing people the wrong way. He's said on other media outlets that he has ADHD and can be a lot to handle at times. There was a point in the WWE when he was doing commentary that he was so annoying and childish that I had to stop watching the product.
I heard it was Scott Armstrong's bag that Miz had under his KFC meal or whatever the fuck. Benoit just decided to take umbrage to it on Armstrong's behalf. I loved Chris as a wrestler but I've never heard one positive anecdote about him backstage.
8:20 that was actually one of the Shane Twins (Gymini, The Johnsons, etc) that drank one of Booker T's Red Bulls... Paul London shared that story on Rene Dupree's show.
I think part of the problem with the WWE locker room at the time was a lot of the guys viewed themselves as proper badasses but they were making their money through "play fighting" (to quote Jim Ross)
You say that, but they haze the hell out of you. Daniel Puder of all people got draaaagged for shooting on Kurt Angle. Grown man. MMA fighter. Won the Tough Enough... never offered a contract. The locker room just BTFO of him.
@SawyerCombat I understand, brother. But Puder had the same mindset and got bent for it. Stevie here has talked about Steve Blackman and Shamrock, but those seem to be outliers versus the norm. The locker room protects itself whenever possible
@@SawyerCombat sure! But he beat the pants off Angle, an Olympic champion, and that alone was grounds for his ass being grass. Seems to me the only ones people feared in that locker room were Shamrock or Blackman. And boy Stevie tells a story about what Blackman did to Bradshaw lemme tell ya
It just seems like if a person stood up for themselves, like a wrestler being told to dress in the hallway, the others would've respected. One thing I've learned about people in general is they don't like to fight people that will fight back. You just heard from the video about Matt Striker...
@@phabiorules Puder said he allowed that to happen to fit in. Puder didn't stand up for himself. He could've recked Guerrero and Benoit if he wanted to...
Hayes "rewarded" Jeff with Kane's ticket after they won the tag titles. Kane almost missed the flight. They tried to move but JBL made them stay and "take the punishment" which was just a bottle of Jack. Not justifying it but it was a rib on the brothers and far less serious than others which were straight up abuse.
I worked independents in the Midwest for a few years and a well know group of workers put me on trial in wrestlers court. I was many hours away from home and relying on everyone for my ride, so I had to just take it. They meant well and it was some kind of initiation or something, but that was it for me. I became a 40 miler after that and just enjoyed the business for what it was. Any ideas I had or taking part in the wrestling business at large were done after that. I didn’t want anything to do with it.
Why are we complaining about wrestlers being childish? The whole thing is a character pageant performance for grown ups who didn't get enough attention growing up. Craving the cheers and jeers of thousands of adoring fans.
Dave Batista comes across as a really down to earth dude nowadays, I guess he wasn’t always like that, to get someone fired just because they had a verbal confrontation with you, and the fistfight with Booker over him acting like he was better than everyone else, I guess he wasn’t always this super nice guy he portrays now.
17:27 RAVEN ONCE SAID VINCE MCMAHON HAD A CHANCE TO BRING IN METALLICA TO A WRESTLEMANIA IN THE 90S AND PASSED BECAUSE HE HAD NO IDEA WHO METALLICA WAS.
All I remember from that was a bunch of masked guys beating up an unconscious Undertaker while Hassan was choking him with a camel clutch and a string.
@@jd9119 Haha exactly the same here man. I do remain pretty sure they left Undertaker in the ring after taking him out, or it went off air while they still had the camel clutch or string around Taker's throat.
@@ChrisMS0815 yeah i personally don’t know why they would blame someone else for that unless it was really one of the bashem brothers and London got it wrong but who knows
I served on submarines and honestly we've suffered from the same phenomenon for a long time Obviously there's a qualification process and you have to learn your job and support the watchbill--but there's too much hostility toward new guys and many of them are given a hard time... and it's prejudicial to good order and discipline. That "you have to pay your dues" bullshit is usually just a bunch of dumb fuck-fuck games. I was older when I enlisted and wasn't having any of that shit.
Honestly, as someone who watched and loved wrestling all the way from the mid 80s to the mid 2000s most of these shoot interviews, I have heard that talked about the WWE locker room after WCW went out of business really made me lose a lot of respect for a lot of WWE people. I’m sure half of WCW’s roster would’ve loved to have worked for WWF, but they were punished for working at another company when WWF didn’t even want them. Look I’m not saying like buff bag didn’t have issues but even when I hear his story I feel like what he said is true but they’re using the fact that it’s him and they knew that no one would believe his version of the story but if you look at what they did to every WCW personality, they did everything they could to bury them. They signed most of them to one year contracts and just job them out to WWE guys. I’m sorry I just don’t respect bullies and when you are treating another human badly because you know if they defend their selves that they will lose their livelihood then no I don’t think the undertakers really a tough guy that’s a bitch move .
The saddest wrestlers court story has to be Chad Wick’s. His treatment during his short run in the WWE was honestly heartbreaking. Hearing these stories though…these stories are the reason I laugh when guys like Taker imply that this new generation of wrestlers are soft. Taker’s generation acted like a bunch of high school mean girls. Not to mention they only messed with guys and girls they knew couldn’t and/or wouldn’t do anything about it. Yeah, such hard, manly men 😂
I remember Tank Toland's shoot interview where he talked about Chad's mistreatment and Wrestler's Court. To the point where there were piles of money on tables,basically them betting how long it would take them to fight or him to break down.
Question, what year did the Miz come into the WWE ? 05, 06 ? Also when did the issue with benoit’s bag happen? like how long before the benoit tragedy ?
Mike was a part of season 4 of Tough Enough in 2004 and was the runner-up. The show had been canceled at that point so it took place entirely on SmackDown. He was then given a developmental contract and returned to the main roster in the Summer of 2006 to host that years Diva Search. Shortly afterwards he began wrestling on SmackDown. The locker room incident with Benoit happened when he was still a rookie on the main roster, several months before the murders/suicide.
i think muhammad hassan was put up to go to eddie about the camelclutch as a rib against the both of them, but eddie got angry and hassan got the issues with everyone after that.
I dunno if he got wrestler's court, but he was supposed to win KotR that year. He got buried for a while as a jobber. That's when they decided to have Stone Cold win KotR which is how we got Austin 3:16. History is funny like that
@@acecashman1237 yeah, iirc the Clique ran it by Vince beforehand and he gave them the okey, but then some Oldtimers (including Cornette I think) got real mad so they had to apologize and someone needed to be punished. Hall and Nash were out the company and Shawn was the champion at the time. So Trips was the only one they COULD punish
This is insane. Basically roid monkeys in their underwear that practice play fighting, trying to act tough while simultaneously acting like kindergartners.
I never understood really why UPN opposed the Hassan/Al Qaeda attack on The Undertaker so much. It was taped and coincidently was aired on the day of the subway thing. And on top of that, everybody knows that wrestling isn't real. It's a show and Hassan was a bad guy. He was going to lose to The Undertaker.
Its no blooming wonder so many wrestlers end up on drugs having to deal with a bunch of grown men acting like a bunch of girls constantly(trying to stop swearing btw lol)
The thing is nobody "HAS TO DEAL" with anything. Every single person in the wrestling business choses to be there. If they didn't like that much, they could just get a real job like everybody else has. That's why I don't buy "the victim" mentality.
@@jd9119 have you heard the stories of how these supposed hard men act like school girls, it's truly sad, I totally understand they can leave and go somewhere else it seems to be a problem everywhere
No, Shelly is in reference to Shelly Martinez (she was Ariel the vampire girl on WWE's 2006 / 2007 version of ECW and Salinas in 2007 / 2008 TNA, but gained more of a cult following as herself, Shelly Martinez, on the indie circuit and social media after her first TNA run).
@@alesitercrimson24It's bullying, and it's fucked up considering he was quoted in an interview that he hates bullying and bullies, while being one of the biggest ones.
@@alesitercrimson24 You misunderstood. Shelly was confronting Batista about sleeping with Melina, because she was upset with him for stealing Melina from her long time boyfriend, John Morrison.
You know there were so many wrestlers in so many territories, we'll never truly know who invented what move, every time. Guys traveled around and wrestlers would see another wrestler do a move, so then they'd go to another territory and do it themselves. Eddie might've truly believed his dad or uncle invented the move, but that doesn't mean they necessarily did invent it.
No. The move is always credited to Gory, but the Shiek popularized the name. When Gory created it, he called it la de a caballo or a horse mounting choke. Shieks' character being of Middle Eastern descent titled it the camel clutch as part of his gimmick. His nephew Sabu used it and called it the Arabian Clutch, Rusev called it the Accolade, the standing version being the Steiner Recliner. Moves get name changes often enough or just different enough to be credited to someone else, but in this instance, Eddy was in the right to use the maneuver by birthright
Pretty much top guys back then liked to throw their weight around and target people they knew couldn’t or wouldn’t fight back, but complain that people these days not walking around with egos are soft when they aren’t as easily threatened. Got it.
That’s stupid that British people didn’t take a terrorist attack on their country as serious we did. People really are so numb to big tragedies and people dying.
What the hell does an artistic expression of a made up character on television have anything to do with that? It’s called free speech and freedom of expression. Maybe you’re one of those people who believes in censorship, but I don’t.
Svcks bc Shelly was standing up for her friend and likely Melina didn't do anything to deescalate the situation or try to help Shelly keep her job. (Or maybe Melina wasn't even present) Shelly strikes me as a loyal friend who fight tooth and nail for her friends, and often doesn't get that in return from her friends. Even Steven here admits to not doing anything to stop them.
Stevie Richards is moving right up there with Cornette and Maven for favorite wrestling channel that tells backstage stories.
I feel Stevie is more honest. Sometimes Maven feels like he’s trying to get a job in WWE.
Grown adults acting like kids basically
When people say that, they need to realize that kids/children act much kinder and with respect to each other.
More like high schools teens.
It makes sense that wrestlers act like Drama high school students. They left high school and started doing violent stage plays.
this is by far the most down-to-earth, smart and differenciated, no-bs podcast in wrestling
Props to Rey for making an attempt to stick up for Palmer Cannon.
I trained a little bit in the Can-Am wrestling school but i'm glad I never took wrestling as a full career. I wouldn't have been able to navigate the douchey highschool politics.
What does it feel like hitting the mat? Does it knock the wind out of you? I’ve never stepped foot in a ring
Jr high politics
@@joshuaG_Sea it's more forgiving than polyurethane sports flooring, its kinda like falling onto the box part of a mattress. The wood gives and bounces a bit but it does knock the wind out until you get used to it.
@@vileluca that’s fascinating. Thanks for sharing! I love to talk with people who have trained.
@@joshuaG_Sea The trick is to exhale as much as you can before you hit.
Wrestlers court is a bunch of bullies picking on the new guy. There you go, explained it for you
And the women.
some jobs are like that too, you are a threat to them or you will have to check them and let them know you are willing to fight
@@mykoniichistorychannel never heard about that for the women, who was involved in that
This is just beyond stupid and high school like!
“Oh I am upset that you got a 1st class seat on the flight. However I won’t take it from you so I can use it to punish you later on”. What and really?
So dumb, ridiculous and childish!
I haven't listened to the full video yet. Was that poor Victotia being given a 1st class seat by Trish and then chewed out later on?
If it isn't, then evidently there is form for this.
So basically wrestling is like Mean Girls?
Who would have thought that a load of roided up actors would be such insecure mean girls?
If you look at it.. whatever Miz has accomplished right now he REALLY deserves it. He got bulled so bad in the locker during the Ruthless Aggression era that probably any other man woulda just packed their bags and went home but he didn't. I'd love for him to get one last feud with John Cena that would be awesome.
Yup! He's an anti bully guy! Til this day he talks about that
No proof he was ever really bullied though. Benoit went off on him one time because Mike wasn't paying attention to his surroundings and spilled his food on another talents bag. He was temporarily "kicked out" of the locker room for that (and I'm sure other) transgression.
JBL would take shots at him on commentary when he started wrestling on SmackDown, but that was within kayfabe. Michael Cole would stick up for Mike and JBL would act humbled when Mike would win his matches.
There aren't any stories I'm aware of concerning Mike actually being hazed/bullied behind the scenes.
@@quentinkaasa47 doesnt need to be I watched miz since he was a young dude you can definitely see the cringe egotistic attitude that he had in the early days and just played it on screen. Definitely, it would have rubbed other wrestlers the wrong way.
@@quentinkaasa47temporarily? No, he was kicked out and had to change in the public restroom, permanently. Until undertaker invited him back after Benoit did what he did.
@@quentinkaasa47 No proof? He's literally talked about it in interviews multiple times. JBL and Benoit were basically trying to make him quit.
8:00 Booker T actually talks about that on Undertaker's podcast. It was one of the Basham brothers who tool the Red Bulls.
Booker said it was an MMA fighter not a Basham Brother that took the Red Bull
@@hopeflorence6748I'm almost positive they agreed it was a Basham Brother...no?
The thing with Shelly Martinez was that both her and Melina Perez started their careers at around the time (Shelly a few months before). They trained at the same wrestling school, wrestled at the same indie promotions and were even kayfabe sisters. They were said to be genuinely very close friends for years and Martinez stood up for Perez. Might not have been the wisest thing to do, but she wanted to defend/protect her friend.
Perez on the other hand... Not too long ago she did an interview and was asked about the incident. Basically, the way she told the story, she made it sound like she and Martinez didn't even know each other. I understand if they drifted apart and as Perez' star started growing she decided to upgrade, but to pretend they hardly knew each other when they've got a well-documented past. This to me, in addition to the Trish Stratus snub, getting kicked out of the locker room, stories of her being a biotch, etc. make Perez very unlikeable.
Melina Perez once tweeted a photo of one of John Morrison's E.D. med prescription bottles with his address on the label after a falling out with him. She's a pyscho.
Also, there were tons of rumors at that time that Shelly and Batista had hooked up at one point so I am not sure she was confronting him on behalf of Melina or if she was confronting him because she was jealous. Also, Shelly Martinez herself was not been known to be the most stable person back then either. Rene Dupree told a story about living in the same apartment complex as her and how she left her dog unattended for days when she first went from OVW to Smackdown and how unbothered she was when he asked her about it.
Dont forget when Eddie, Benoit and Bob Holly took liberties with Daniel Puder in the royal rumble
Bob got his from Brock.
This type of behaviour is not what comes to mind when you day PROFESSIONAL Wrestling
Just about every backstage story I've heard about Benoit hasn't been a good one.
The older I get, the more I learn that the vast majority of wrestlers are psychos, treat wives and GF's like garbage, have disdain for the fans, treat other talent or employees like garbage, and expect everyone to worship them.
I don't like how him and his camp badically vilified Kevin Sullivan and allegedly manifactured a lot of stories to push that believability that he was a bad guy, when he was essentially a home wrecker. (Funny how Lita and to a much lesser extent, Edge, were vilifed so much. Benoit didn't feel any backlash)
It also brushes of on fans who either don't know about real life workplace expectations, or simply forego any convention irl.
It's because you're a soft mark. You think wrestling is like an office job. Benoit was wrestling.
@@ButWhatIfItIs Wrestling isn't an office job. "Workplace expectations". Little lib.
Ironic that older wrestlers claim that they “wrestled in a time when men were men” and all that BS when they pull a Degrassi at every little infraction.
Shitting in each others food, drugging and stripping fellow wrestlers and leaving them naked in the hallways of hotels, shitting in peoples luggage…yep, such manly activities.
Taker in particular shared those sentiments, which is hilarious given he led the Wrestlers' Court stuff
Melina has basically denied the Shelly Martinez story, but now that Shelly story is now corroborated by Richards. So Melina is not looking credible, oh well. I wonder if anyone can answer if Lita actually kicked her out of the locker room and why?
Eddie had a temper... i could definitely see it
A lot of roids
He tried to outwrestle Kurt Angle backstage and even said that was a dumb idea
I hate to stereotype but look at his background.
@@JamesN-g2n lol the "roid rage" myth again. I guess everybody who has ever had a hot temper was on roids.
@@darnelldarden9429so why doesn’t Chavo have the same reputation
It's funny how most fans say that Benoit was a super nice n chill guy regarding autographs and taking pictures, but a total jerk backstage with the talent lol
That’s because anyone who praises benoit are psychos themselves
Guy was a POS. No idea why people make excuses for him.
Miz getting the "last laugh" over Benoit is kind of a low bar to clear.
I trained at Squared Circle under Fuego 14 years ago and this was the culture, especially the Ontario indies. Fuego himself was a good man, if a bit of a guy you didn't wanna piss off. but some of the people at his school (and who later spun out into all the other places) literally do this to this day. After a year and a half and then one Quebec tour? I was done. I can relate to the Matt Striker story. People like that don't *want* to be adults and show you what you do wrong and even when you constantly say - as an 18, 19, 20, 21 year old kid - you don't want to start anything, you get egged on and they treat you like ass so they can frame any action against you as justified.
They still do it too, even some of the referees. Mouthing off to cosplayers and telling stories in instagram pages and what not to try and get you canceled. For cosplay. The lowest of the low hanging fruit in pop culture.
(EDIT: Full disclosure, I am not entirely faultless. I fell into it after *being* egged on and *did* make an ass of myself in the process. Nevertheless...)
These are overdeveloped children who all want the top spot and they will ruin you just to stay there.
I understand Shelly was trying to be a good friend, but she probably should’ve minded her business because Melina doesn’t even talk to her anymore. (Which is messed up)
Wrestlers are childish psychos at times
Yep. And it is disgusting.
So wrestlers are kindergarteners in adult roided out bodies? 😂
Sounds pretty accurate.
And they are the most Insecure ppl on the planet
A good analogy is this - find a group of stray feral cats - dump a bag of food - and you'll see them do the same BS you will see in some (not all) wrestling locker rooms. Seriously - that's exactly how it is sometimes. 97% of the other people that you will meet will be friendly and fun to be around - but be aware of that other 3% - they do exist and their douchebaggery has no limits.
@@BlackjackDSapolisthat’s why I don’t fully believe the whole “the locker room and backstage is so much better now in wwe” bs I always hear. There’ll always be stooges and douches trying to snake their way to the top.
@@d.52555 that stuff exists whether you work for WWE or if you work at Burger King. You will always have people like that.
I would love to have a full conversation between Stevie and Raven linked on this channel. Please do it!
Imagine if Don Callis had been pushed properly in WWE. He would still be there right now just like another Paul Heyman almost
Don Callis sucks at his job. Guy barely had any success in the business until AEW came about. He gets reactions from their dwindling audience, but only in an ironic sense. He's nothing like Paul Heyman.
@quentinkaasa47 you sound very blinded by AEW hate because that's not true.
Don Callis is amazing would have been a great manager in WWE
Gimme a break 😂
He really isn't anywhere near as talented as Paul and there was no need to insult him like that 😒
I get he is being spoken of well in this video, but that is a loony thing to say 😂
Oh and the small matter of potentially being a sex pest too might just be an issue as to.why he isn't a bigger deal today.
@@Paotato69Or you are blinded by your love for it.
He was hating on Don, not AEW. AEW made him the most relevant he has ever been (since he wasn't in WWF long), and was on air when it was at its most popular. Unless you wish to argue that AEW hasn't lost a huge amount of viewership in the past couple years? Where is the hate?
Yo i love what podcast has done with ex wwe wrestlers. Really dope stuff. Yo steven richards for some reason i still remember you in SDVS RW. Good ole days stay blessed man. Keep up the good work 👊
Don’t forget Don also was with NJWP then Jericho got him his job at TNA to AEW . Don had Kenny and Jericho as his friends to help which leads me to believe Don is very likable guy .
I’m still lost on this first class ticket thing. Are these guys buys first class tickets for themselves and then being forced to give up their seats or were they given to them by the company?
Problem is Wrestlers court picked on the wrestlers lower down the ladder, the top guys were never bothered, who's going to bring Undertaker to court if he's "The Judge" doesn't seem right or moral
Yeah I never heard about Rock or Stone Cold being in wrestlers court
I can totally understand Matt Striker rubbing people the wrong way. He's said on other media outlets that he has ADHD and can be a lot to handle at times.
There was a point in the WWE when he was doing commentary that he was so annoying and childish that I had to stop watching the product.
How are you going to tell someone they can’t dress somewhere lol I would be beat up daily I’m small as hell but don’t back down regardless
Love your online work since the early 2010s stevie. Appreciate all you’ve done for wrestling.
Goldberg did that bc its Goldberg... hes used to getting his way w things for no reason
I heard it was Scott Armstrong's bag that Miz had under his KFC meal or whatever the fuck. Benoit just decided to take umbrage to it on Armstrong's behalf. I loved Chris as a wrestler but I've never heard one positive anecdote about him backstage.
8:20 that was actually one of the Shane Twins (Gymini, The Johnsons, etc) that drank one of Booker T's Red Bulls... Paul London shared that story on Rene Dupree's show.
I think part of the problem with the WWE locker room at the time was a lot of the guys viewed themselves as proper badasses but they were making their money through "play fighting" (to quote Jim Ross)
There is no way in hell I would let another grown man tell me that I'm banned from a locker room lol
You say that, but they haze the hell out of you. Daniel Puder of all people got draaaagged for shooting on Kurt Angle. Grown man. MMA fighter. Won the Tough Enough... never offered a contract. The locker room just BTFO of him.
@SoraMatt I've done MMA for 25 years the last thing I'm going to do is let a grown man especially a pro wrestler tell me what to do LOL
@SawyerCombat I understand, brother. But Puder had the same mindset and got bent for it. Stevie here has talked about Steve Blackman and Shamrock, but those seem to be outliers versus the norm. The locker room protects itself whenever possible
@SoraMatt I get what you're saying to brother but Daniel Puder was probably one of the weakest MMA fighters out there!
@@SawyerCombat sure! But he beat the pants off Angle, an Olympic champion, and that alone was grounds for his ass being grass. Seems to me the only ones people feared in that locker room were Shamrock or Blackman. And boy Stevie tells a story about what Blackman did to Bradshaw lemme tell ya
Im still completely shocked that the subs are still under 100k, come on people, tell everyone you know about this channel.
It just seems like if a person stood up for themselves, like a wrestler being told to dress in the hallway, the others would've respected. One thing I've learned about people in general is they don't like to fight people that will fight back. You just heard from the video about Matt Striker...
Or their gear would get destroyed and management would be told they have a bad attitude
Although Daniel Puder learned what happened if you stood up for yourself.
Benoit was a "locker room leader." If Mike had attempted to circumvent Benoit's command it would have gotten him more heat with the locker room vets.
@@phabiorules Puder said he allowed that to happen to fit in. Puder didn't stand up for himself. He could've recked Guerrero and Benoit if he wanted to...
@@quentinkaasa47 he already had heat. Plus, it was JBL that kicked him out...
Eddie had a point about Gory and the clutch
Hardy's didn't deserve that. They were there years before Kane was.
Kane the character maybe but not Glenn the person.
Hayes "rewarded" Jeff with Kane's ticket after they won the tag titles. Kane almost missed the flight. They tried to move but JBL made them stay and "take the punishment" which was just a bottle of Jack. Not justifying it but it was a rib on the brothers and far less serious than others which were straight up abuse.
Knowing what we know now, Miz got off lightly after crossing Benoit.
Well, he didn't. As in, he shouldn't have been punished to that extent at all.
But as far as their temperaments and bad attitudes? Yeah.
It wasnt shawn spears who drank booker's red bull it was doug basham!!!
I heard it was one of the Gymini.
I worked independents in the Midwest for a few years and a well know group of workers put me on trial in wrestlers court. I was many hours away from home and relying on everyone for my ride, so I had to just take it. They meant well and it was some kind of initiation or something, but that was it for me. I became a 40 miler after that and just enjoyed the business for what it was. Any ideas I had or taking part in the wrestling business at large were done after that. I didn’t want anything to do with it.
Why are we complaining about wrestlers being childish? The whole thing is a character pageant performance for grown ups who didn't get enough attention growing up. Craving the cheers and jeers of thousands of adoring fans.
Another Awesome 👍😎👍 episode in the books!!! Thank you James and Stevie!!
EDIT: The guys didn't carry Undertaker away. They carried Daivari away. It is a common mistake.
It wasn't even Hussan. It was Daivari that the masked men carried.
Yes, terrorists carrying him as a "martyr" , just heinous storytelling
@@MikeJr9284 Good catch.
@@geedee1264he sacrificed himself for the greater good
Dave Batista comes across as a really down to earth dude nowadays, I guess he wasn’t always like that, to get someone fired just because they had a verbal confrontation with you, and the fistfight with Booker over him acting like he was better than everyone else, I guess he wasn’t always this super nice guy he portrays now.
Whooo better than Kanyon?
Glacier used to beat him up all the time in WCW.
... ah... they seem like terrible people. A shame...
Jerry Lawler was such a Dick to Matt Stryker at WrestleMania 26.
17:27 RAVEN ONCE SAID VINCE MCMAHON HAD A CHANCE TO BRING IN METALLICA TO A WRESTLEMANIA IN THE 90S AND PASSED BECAUSE HE HAD NO IDEA WHO METALLICA WAS.
The taker thing with Hassan was taken off due to the London bombings that happened on the same day and it was sky tv that got upset and rightly so
That sums up life not just wrestling
Falling Down is an excellent movie.
Mandela effect: Taker was not the body carried from the ring by the black dressed guys.
All I remember from that was a bunch of masked guys beating up an unconscious Undertaker while Hassan was choking him with a camel clutch and a string.
@@jd9119 Haha exactly the same here man. I do remain pretty sure they left Undertaker in the ring after taking him out, or it went off air while they still had the camel clutch or string around Taker's throat.
Wrestling is pretty much a kid sport…😂😅
"Oh, Meanie NO" 😂
Stevie is my favorite wrestler
Lol #10 is the one who drank Booker's red bull haha
Who’s the interviewer? Seen him in a few wrestling interview vids and feel like he should get some credit
Ivory was the attorney for the WWE women that lost volleyball to the Diva Search women.
Thanks. Makes no sense why Ivory would have been singled out.
@@quentinkaasa47 She’s done a few shoots about it that you can find on UA-cam
So it was Shawn Spears in the Booker T Red Bull story?
Booker T and Undertaker talked about that story recently on Taker's podcast and they said it was one of the Basham brothers.
@@ChrisMS0815 witch was wrong it was one member of the Johnson’s Paul London shared the story on cafe de Rene
@@andrewramsdale You're right, I saw that episode but I wasn't sure.
@@ChrisMS0815 yeah i personally don’t know why they would blame someone else for that unless it was really one of the bashem brothers and London got it wrong but who knows
Sounds super super lame
I served on submarines and honestly we've suffered from the same phenomenon for a long time Obviously there's a qualification process and you have to learn your job and support the watchbill--but there's too much hostility toward new guys and many of them are given a hard time... and it's prejudicial to good order and discipline. That "you have to pay your dues" bullshit is usually just a bunch of dumb fuck-fuck games. I was older when I enlisted and wasn't having any of that shit.
We're gonna watch Stevie mate....we dont need the teenager thumbnail face 😂
At 8:17, that wasn't Shawn Spears, it was Chad Dick.
Honestly, as someone who watched and loved wrestling all the way from the mid 80s to the mid 2000s most of these shoot interviews, I have heard that talked about the WWE locker room after WCW went out of business really made me lose a lot of respect for a lot of WWE people.
I’m sure half of WCW’s roster would’ve loved to have worked for WWF, but they were punished for working at another company when WWF didn’t even want them. Look I’m not saying like buff bag didn’t have issues but even when I hear his story I feel like what he said is true but they’re using the fact that it’s him and they knew that no one would believe his version of the story but if you look at what they did to every WCW personality, they did everything they could to bury them. They signed most of them to one year contracts and just job them out to WWE guys.
I’m sorry I just don’t respect bullies and when you are treating another human badly because you know if they defend their selves that they will lose their livelihood then no I don’t think the undertakers really a tough guy that’s a bitch move .
So we finally found out who took Booker T’s Redbull.
I can understand why Don Phallus was forced to dress in his car. He's "the network" and you can't trust those guys.
The saddest wrestlers court story has to be Chad Wick’s. His treatment during his short run in the WWE was honestly heartbreaking.
Hearing these stories though…these stories are the reason I laugh when guys like Taker imply that this new generation of wrestlers are soft. Taker’s generation acted like a bunch of high school mean girls. Not to mention they only messed with guys and girls they knew couldn’t and/or wouldn’t do anything about it. Yeah, such hard, manly men 😂
I remember Tank Toland's shoot interview where he talked about Chad's mistreatment and Wrestler's Court. To the point where there were piles of money on tables,basically them betting how long it would take them to fight or him to break down.
"Everyone pays their dues... except Brock." they're the lamest kind of bullies.
@@RD-zx6py Brock probably pulled a Larry Bird. "I'm not bringing any of you water and I'm not carrying any bag that isn't mine"
Question, what year did the Miz come into the WWE ? 05, 06 ? Also when did the issue with benoit’s bag happen? like how long before the benoit tragedy ?
Only a few months before
@@RaysHomeVideosDang .
Mike was a part of season 4 of Tough Enough in 2004 and was the runner-up. The show had been canceled at that point so it took place entirely on SmackDown. He was then given a developmental contract and returned to the main roster in the Summer of 2006 to host that years Diva Search. Shortly afterwards he began wrestling on SmackDown. The locker room incident with Benoit happened when he was still a rookie on the main roster, several months before the murders/suicide.
i think muhammad hassan was put up to go to eddie about the camelclutch as a rib against the both of them, but eddie got angry and hassan got the issues with everyone after that.
Did HHH ever get wrestlers court for the Curtain call in madison square garden??
I dunno if he got wrestler's court, but he was supposed to win KotR that year. He got buried for a while as a jobber. That's when they decided to have Stone Cold win KotR which is how we got Austin 3:16. History is funny like that
doubt it, only the execs were pissed. Vince and the boys didn't give a shit
To this day I’m still wondering was it work? The curtain call, it could have been a work?
@@acecashman1237 yeah, iirc the Clique ran it by Vince beforehand and he gave them the okey, but then some Oldtimers (including Cornette I think) got real mad so they had to apologize and someone needed to be punished. Hall and Nash were out the company and Shawn was the champion at the time. So Trips was the only one they COULD punish
He lost for a LONG time, killed his run
What a bunch of babies
i knew why the miz was banned because of chris benoit
This is insane. Basically roid monkeys in their underwear that practice play fighting, trying to act tough while simultaneously acting like kindergartners.
Wait....is that vanessa del rio in the thumbnail????
Ohhh, look who it is... Its ol' White Socks himself
I never understood really why UPN opposed the Hassan/Al Qaeda attack on The Undertaker so much. It was taped and coincidently was aired on the day of the subway thing. And on top of that, everybody knows that wrestling isn't real. It's a show and Hassan was a bad guy. He was going to lose to The Undertaker.
Sponsors won't allow any bad press. Gotta protect the money
Haha so the booker t six feet under story was about Sean spears!!!! Hahaha😂
Who’s Shelly?
Shelley Martinez she was with Kevin Thorn in WWE ECW as Ariel
Shelly Martinez needs therapy, she got into many squabbles. She was the problem
I don’t understand that guy talking . The accent is strong , talk slower.
Its no blooming wonder so many wrestlers end up on drugs having to deal with a bunch of grown men acting like a bunch of girls constantly(trying to stop swearing btw lol)
The thing is nobody "HAS TO DEAL" with anything. Every single person in the wrestling business choses to be there. If they didn't like that much, they could just get a real job like everybody else has. That's why I don't buy "the victim" mentality.
@@jd9119 have you heard the stories of how these supposed hard men act like school girls, it's truly sad, I totally understand they can leave and go somewhere else it seems to be a problem everywhere
Guys, I enjoy the show, I like you both, but the AI thumbnails have got to go. They look awful.
The mouth edit in the thumbnail is weird
Is Shelly, Melina's real name?
No, Shelly is in reference to Shelly Martinez (she was Ariel the vampire girl on WWE's 2006 / 2007 version of ECW and Salinas in 2007 / 2008 TNA, but gained more of a cult following as herself, Shelly Martinez, on the indie circuit and social media after her first TNA run).
@@johnpenguinthe3rd13
Thank you, I was wondering who Shelly was as well. 👍
Never knew she was involved with Batista. Wow he got her and Melina. Thats awesome
@@alesitercrimson24It's bullying, and it's fucked up considering he was quoted in an interview that he hates bullying and bullies, while being one of the biggest ones.
@@alesitercrimson24
You misunderstood.
Shelly was confronting Batista about sleeping with Melina, because she was upset with him for stealing Melina from her long time boyfriend, John Morrison.
Didnt the original sheik invent the camel clutch
I've always heard it was Gory.
You know there were so many wrestlers in so many territories, we'll never truly know who invented what move, every time. Guys traveled around and wrestlers would see another wrestler do a move, so then they'd go to another territory and do it themselves. Eddie might've truly believed his dad or uncle invented the move, but that doesn't mean they necessarily did invent it.
No. The move is always credited to Gory, but the Shiek popularized the name. When Gory created it, he called it la de a caballo or a horse mounting choke. Shieks' character being of Middle Eastern descent titled it the camel clutch as part of his gimmick. His nephew Sabu used it and called it the Arabian Clutch, Rusev called it the Accolade, the standing version being the Steiner Recliner. Moves get name changes often enough or just different enough to be credited to someone else, but in this instance, Eddy was in the right to use the maneuver by birthright
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Undertaker gets backstage pull n does the opposite thing as Kevin Nash it seems
I’m convinced that if I were in wrestling I would’ve been arrested for going off on this high school bullshit drama
Dude enough with these thumbnails. Comes across as awful clickbait
Pretty much top guys back then liked to throw their weight around and target people they knew couldn’t or wouldn’t fight back, but complain that people these days not walking around with egos are soft when they aren’t as easily threatened. Got it.
That’s stupid that British people didn’t take a terrorist attack on their country as serious we did. People really are so numb to big tragedies and people dying.
What the hell does an artistic expression of a made up character on television have anything to do with that? It’s called free speech and freedom of expression. Maybe you’re one of those people who believes in censorship, but I don’t.
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jackel and scorpio are the best thing about the attitude era??..Ookkkkk
When people compare wrestlers to kids i say compare them to highschool teens
Bc I've seen kids acting way more mature than any of them.
Svcks bc Shelly was standing up for her friend and likely Melina didn't do anything to deescalate the situation or try to help Shelly keep her job. (Or maybe Melina wasn't even present)
Shelly strikes me as a loyal friend who fight tooth and nail for her friends, and often doesn't get that in return from her friends.
Even Steven here admits to not doing anything to stop them.