John Thornton, 'Religion, the Kingdom of Kongo and The Slave Trade'

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  • Опубліковано 21 кві 2021
  • (04-21-2021)
    Part of the Virtual W. E. B. Du Bois Lecture Series
    John Thornton received his PhD in African history in 1979, and after stints at the University of Zambia, Allegheny College, the University of Virginia and then Millersville University after 1986, he joined the Boston University faculty in the fall 2003. His specializations include Africa and Atlantic History, as well as world history. He is the author of The Kingdom of Kongo: Civil War and Transition, 1641-1718 (1983); Africa and Africans in the Formation of the Atlantic world, 1400-1680 (1992); The Kongolese Saint Anthony: Dona Beatriz Kimpa Vita and the Antonian Movement, 1684-1706 (1998); Warfare in Atlantic Africa, 1500-1800 (1999); and in 2007 with Linda Heywood published Central Africans, Atlantic Creoles, and the Foundation of the Americas (Cambridge University Press, 2007), which won the Melville J. Herskovits Prize that year. His latest book, A Cultural History of the Atlantic World, 1350-1820 (Cambridge University Press, 2012) won the World History Association’s Prize for the Best New Book in World History in 2012.

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  • @derrickbaustin
    @derrickbaustin 2 роки тому +11

    His research identifies that Kikongo people went into their Soul to find Self or ancestor Gods is correct. Those of us today that practice New World Kikongo practices go within and find our Self and, or ancestor Gods. Thank you for your research!

    • @ilna4813
      @ilna4813 3 місяці тому +1

      Bakongo* people :) Kikongo is the language

  • @DubS3332
    @DubS3332 3 роки тому +9

    I’m really disappointed in Gates. He does everything in his power here to trivialize Barbara Ruiz’s extremely valid points.

  • @RoutesRootsEthnographics
    @RoutesRootsEthnographics Місяць тому

    I am 20 mins in. And I appreciate the maturity of the information on the topic.

  • @MrRJS27
    @MrRJS27 3 роки тому +2

    Thornton's first book was an amazing accomplishment of research and interpretation. 15:30 onward is where you get some of that stuff.

  • @billiondollarbaby973
    @billiondollarbaby973 2 роки тому +2

    Has anyone mentioned the book Recreating Africa? Its an amazing book on this topic of African religion, and its transfer and evolution in the Americas.

  • @victor-su2xh
    @victor-su2xh 2 місяці тому

    Kikongo has a large influence in the Americas that can also be seen by the Palenque of Colombia a lot of words they use is derived from Kikongo/ Loango Kingdom ....as a Congolese i can recognise similar words

  • @rootz2go
    @rootz2go 2 місяці тому

    Taa Kora moved from Denkyira to some Asante provinces, I believe.The Akan had mobile deities.

  • @2kric
    @2kric 3 роки тому +7

    Saving this for a long car ride, thanx

  • @pawsy_doggu7fz
    @pawsy_doggu7fz Рік тому

    Thank you ❤

  • @Gessela
    @Gessela 2 роки тому +1

    I'd posit that the public forms of religions would have more room for quick shifts/evolution than those of the initiated underground systems.

  • @adphoto5681
    @adphoto5681 Рік тому +2

    Mr Barbaro nailed this John, I don't think John is telling any truth about the Kongo.

  • @shakkamusa2366
    @shakkamusa2366 Рік тому +8

    Africans can never be anything but one the Creator created them to be because who they are is written in their DNA. We can fool ourselves to believe that we are Christian, Muslim or whatever, but that is only superficial because we also believe and practice what is in our DNA. Our delusion that we are something other than what we are is what has destroyed us as a people. The Kingdom of Kongo was a great power until they started following a god their ancestors knew nothing about. Now look at Kongo. When you accept someone else's god and customs, you have given away who and what you are, thereby rendering yourself their slave.

    • @fabbeyonddadancer
      @fabbeyonddadancer Рік тому +1

      That doesn’t make logic sense . Religious identity is not genetically deterministic

    • @jsamc
      @jsamc Рік тому +1

      @@fabbeyonddadancer Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

    • @deamorebeaute2412
      @deamorebeaute2412 Рік тому

      ​@@fabbeyonddadancer *The religion you practice has nothing to do with your DNA.

    • @legoat8818
      @legoat8818 10 місяців тому

      @@fabbeyonddadancerwell to bad you can’t comprehend what he’s saying

  • @slambk
    @slambk 2 роки тому +3

    Greetings out there, interesting talk .... really appreciated ...at 1:32:47 , Yes in my language it's YESU sounds YEZU, ISSA or ISA as YEZU his name to the other side (Arabic) But to my side ISA sounds IZA means come and if u read the Bible prophecy indeed you will find it... YEZU is the one who came from or send to Us from YAh (Yahweh) and there u get that, example The one in my language is YANDI or to emphasize it should be YANDI'NA so like to say Come Jesus = IZA YEZU that can be use by calling someone near to you or to come toward you, IZA or KWISA, KWIZA hope that will help the IZA in arabic simple help us to bring that line of the One who came etc... or the one (Who's) sent .... any way my language can't be translated directly as what am trying to do....thnx

    • @ProjectHyena
      @ProjectHyena 2 роки тому +2

      Doesn't it matter what his name is, Catholism in Kongo justified slavery. In what is today Angola in 17th century people either had to accept Catholism or Portuguese vasal or or were subjected to slavery. 5.5 millions enslaved people were taking from what use to be kingdom of Kongo.

    • @truth2powermillions400
      @truth2powermillions400 Рік тому

      @@ProjectHyena Exactly

    • @jean-pierremuchuba6509
      @jean-pierremuchuba6509 Рік тому

      Isnt this just an interpretation of the colonial phylodophy. Yezu, Jesus...wouldnt have been Kongo.

  • @kongolese4693
    @kongolese4693 2 роки тому +5

    🇦🇴🇨🇩

  • @urielortiz3648
    @urielortiz3648 Місяць тому

    They weren't crushing nothing Christian they were crushing the truth! Tata nzambi ampungo tulendo not the government aproved Crete doctrine

  • @ProjectHyena
    @ProjectHyena 2 роки тому +4

    Kingdom of Kongo where atlantic Chattel slavery all began.

  • @meocean5499
    @meocean5499 2 роки тому +2

    🇦🇴 🇦🇴 🇦🇴

  • @1330m
    @1330m 2 роки тому

    so good . informative
    1st century Israel = 21st century Korea . You have to know that .
    Amazing historical events are taking place there .
    Longitude 127 Seoul Okinawa Soul Axis -- Bahai Faith Rael
    Jesus Huh kyung young Magnificent aletheia

    • @krackmusik97224
      @krackmusik97224 Рік тому

      Can you explain what you wrote here I'm interested

  • @urielortiz3648
    @urielortiz3648 Місяць тому

    Blind followers that have nobreal discernment just trying to satisfy the world or thereselves instead of the will of the father