Great review I've been sitting in a foldable chair for about entire semester of online school and it did me fine, but there were times were my back is just tired. I'll probably get a good chair in the future. When I went to a doctor's appointment afew months back they had one of these type of chairs, and man!, Those chairs were comfortable. Anyways, Great review man!
@@stromkabel I actually have the Embody. Bought it before I even tried the Sayl. Review here if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/RtRPlh4SXQo/v-deo.html Did you get yours?
The Gaming Sayl in my country has the Medley fabric instead of the Sync fabric, is it still worth getting over the regular Sayl? The regular Sayl uses the Cosmos fabric. The price difference between the two is about 37usd. Both don't come with the adjustable lumbar support.
Really enjoyed the review! Trying to decide what chair to upgrade to between this one and the Embody - the price difference between the two is a big factor. What would you say the biggest advantages are from the Embody compared to the Sayl? Ultimately, would you buy the Embody over the Sayl again? Thanks! (I'm gonna be spending so much time on my chair in the next few years, I'm doing my research before replacing my $20 steed that's served me well)
The Embody is more flexible in terms of adjustability, and I feel like it provides more back support than the Sayl. If you are going to be spending a lot of time in the chair, I'd go with the Embody, but you should try both of them before purchasing though.
Really looking forward to a video about quarantine in Thailand. I may have to spend 22 days there to allowed into Hong Kong (coming from UK), so I'm curious to see what it's going to be like
I thought about making one, but decided against it at the end. There are quite a few good videos on that already, you should check them out. For me, my quarantine was actually nice. I opted to pay a little more for a bigger suite at a good hotel, so I didn't feel like I was confined to a room. Let me know if you have any specific questions, I'd be glad to answer them. My advice is check the reviews of the ASQ hotel and plan at least a month in advance as they tend to be booked up.
Still debating between just coughing up the extra cash for the embdoy or going with the Sayl. I imagine the Embody would provide some more back comfort.
How is the seat cushion on this chair in terms of firmness/softness? Also how is the armspace? Like can you sit in it comfortable without using the armrest when you dont feel like using them?
Based on the 15 days I used the chair (while I was in a quarantine hotel), the seat cushion was very nice and supportive, not too soft and not too firm. While the arm space could be a slightly tight, I could still definitely sit comfortably without my arms touching the armrests too often. Hope this helps.
@@Brian-if5nd actually, the regular one with all the bells and whistles comes at $795, while the gaming one comes with everything that one has at a "standard height" model goes for $725, and the "high height" one at $775, so the gaming chair is actually cheaper
Thank you for taking the time to do this review, very helpful indeed making the buying decision. Way more informative than the one on the Herman Miller site!
I find the upright position is not upright enough at all. 5:12 when you go back to the stop your back is ~15 degrees from vertical. The neck/upper thoracic spine has to curve forward encouraging slouching or forward neck position -> honestly no idea why they designed it like this, we have these at my work and hate them, I end up having to sit straight with no support and lean back to rest every so often Cushion firmness and lumbar support is good though just this obvious design flaw
@@Glloo481 my housemate has a Secretlab gaming chair (the Titan one I think) which has really good adjustability. The seat cushion and backrest is quite firm though Tbh I've got used to my Hermam Miller chair now, I think when I wrote my original comment I wasn't sitting properly in it, you have to really push your lower back and glutes into the back of the seat before resting back. Also I didn't have the seat depth adjusted right
You actually can adjust the armrest, its an additional add on feature though. It won't move the whole armrest like Embody does, but will move the upper flat to the sides and forward/backwards. $60 for only height adjustable armrest and $70 for fully adjustable armrest (including forward and backwards). The seat depth adjustability is also something you have to add for $70 as an upgrade as it not come in default.
At first when I was looking at this chair I felt what a weird looking chair. Why is it made of plastic? But then I sat on in for several days. Now I know why it is so expensive. I was so naive to think that the Ikea Markus is expensive. Until I tried to Google if anyone else has the back pain problems like I did with the Markus. Boy oh boy the word "budget" is being used to describe it everywhere.
Haha, I thought the same but with the Jarvfjallet. I thought it looked so cool and was comfy enough testing it out at IKEA and also thought it was expensive at $279, until I found out more about Herman Miller, Steelcase and the likes. It is worth it to me for that crazy amount of money though.
No it isn't. Think about what you're actually investing in. You're investing in the health of your back for a product that will last at least a decade. People will happily pay 3k for a TV that looks slightly better than their previous, but when faced with something that actually provides serious improvement to your posture and overall back health people will go "wtf??? 500 for a CHAIR?? I can just sit on a stool for $10" If you're sitting down for extended periods every single day, a quality chair with good back support is very important in the long run.
Herman miller is a expensive brand yes. But... The health of your back is not worth the money? If you spend 90% of the time sitting for work I would highly recommend ergonomic chairs for healthy reasons.
People pay $500-$1,000 for a phone they change every 2-3 years. Pretty sure a $2,000 chair that will last at MININUM 12 years and serves to keep your health in place is very much worth it.
Great review I've been sitting in a foldable chair for about entire semester of online school and it did me fine, but there were times were my back is just tired. I'll probably get a good chair in the future.
When I went to a doctor's appointment afew months back they had one of these type of chairs, and man!, Those chairs were comfortable.
Anyways, Great review man!
A good chair makes a huge difference :) thanks man
i just ordered the gaming version of this chair, really looking forward to it
Enjoy!
Do you have it now? How is it?
@@stromkabel I actually have the Embody. Bought it before I even tried the Sayl. Review here if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/RtRPlh4SXQo/v-deo.html Did you get yours?
The Gaming Sayl in my country has the Medley fabric instead of the Sync fabric, is it still worth getting over the regular Sayl? The regular Sayl uses the Cosmos fabric. The price difference between the two is about 37usd. Both don't come with the adjustable lumbar support.
Great chair, but your desk is way too high, that's never going to be an ergonomic situation!
Really enjoyed the review! Trying to decide what chair to upgrade to between this one and the Embody - the price difference between the two is a big factor. What would you say the biggest advantages are from the Embody compared to the Sayl? Ultimately, would you buy the Embody over the Sayl again?
Thanks!
(I'm gonna be spending so much time on my chair in the next few years, I'm doing my research before replacing my $20 steed that's served me well)
The Embody is more flexible in terms of adjustability, and I feel like it provides more back support than the Sayl. If you are going to be spending a lot of time in the chair, I'd go with the Embody, but you should try both of them before purchasing though.
Really looking forward to a video about quarantine in Thailand. I may have to spend 22 days there to allowed into Hong Kong (coming from UK), so I'm curious to see what it's going to be like
I thought about making one, but decided against it at the end. There are quite a few good videos on that already, you should check them out. For me, my quarantine was actually nice. I opted to pay a little more for a bigger suite at a good hotel, so I didn't feel like I was confined to a room. Let me know if you have any specific questions, I'd be glad to answer them. My advice is check the reviews of the ASQ hotel and plan at least a month in advance as they tend to be booked up.
Still debating between just coughing up the extra cash for the embdoy or going with the Sayl. I imagine the Embody would provide some more back comfort.
It does, I personally like the Embody better, but the Sayl is definitely not a bad choice. I'll say that the back feels cooler with the Sayl.
This goes for 1000 usd in India,and the Aeron is about 1400 USD,is it worth paying more for the Aeron?
I have only sat in the Aeron briefly so I don't think I'm qualify to answer that question for you. For me, however, I think the Sayl is good enough.
Unrelated comment but what desk is that if you don’t mind?
How is the seat cushion on this chair in terms of firmness/softness? Also how is the armspace? Like can you sit in it comfortable without using the armrest when you dont feel like using them?
Based on the 15 days I used the chair (while I was in a quarantine hotel), the seat cushion was very nice and supportive, not too soft and not too firm. While the arm space could be a slightly tight, I could still definitely sit comfortably without my arms touching the armrests too often. Hope this helps.
@@MrExitStrategy thx
Good job mate , i ve just ordered the sayl gaming edition which is a lil more upgraded than the version you ve got so thank you for the review
Upgraded? It's just different colours 😂
Didn't realize they had the gaming edition, that looks cool!
Man wasted his money😂
@@Brian-if5nd actually, the regular one with all the bells and whistles comes at $795, while the gaming one comes with everything that one has at a "standard height" model goes for $725, and the "high height" one at $775, so the gaming chair is actually cheaper
@@Hhuiza0 cool
I have been sitting on it for the last 2 days, and I feel the net back is not soft and is unconfortable.
I can see the net back being a bit hard for some people, but for me, I think it provides good support and is comfortable.
Thank you for taking the time to do this review, very helpful indeed making the buying decision. Way more informative than the one on the Herman Miller site!
Glad it was helpful!
I find the upright position is not upright enough at all. 5:12 when you go back to the stop your back is ~15 degrees from vertical. The neck/upper thoracic spine has to curve forward encouraging slouching or forward neck position -> honestly no idea why they designed it like this, we have these at my work and hate them, I end up having to sit straight with no support and lean back to rest every so often
Cushion firmness and lumbar support is good though just this obvious design flaw
Do you know a good alternative that allows a full upright position?
@@Glloo481 my housemate has a Secretlab gaming chair (the Titan one I think) which has really good adjustability. The seat cushion and backrest is quite firm though
Tbh I've got used to my Hermam Miller chair now, I think when I wrote my original comment I wasn't sitting properly in it, you have to really push your lower back and glutes into the back of the seat before resting back. Also I didn't have the seat depth adjusted right
You actually can adjust the armrest, its an additional add on feature though. It won't move the whole armrest like Embody does, but will move the upper flat to the sides and forward/backwards. $60 for only height adjustable armrest and $70 for fully adjustable armrest (including forward and backwards). The seat depth adjustability is also something you have to add for $70 as an upgrade as it not come in default.
At first when I was looking at this chair I felt what a weird looking chair. Why is it made of plastic? But then I sat on in for several days. Now I know why it is so expensive. I was so naive to think that the Ikea Markus is expensive. Until I tried to Google if anyone else has the back pain problems like I did with the Markus. Boy oh boy the word "budget" is being used to describe it everywhere.
Haha, I thought the same but with the Jarvfjallet. I thought it looked so cool and was comfy enough testing it out at IKEA and also thought it was expensive at $279, until I found out more about Herman Miller, Steelcase and the likes. It is worth it to me for that crazy amount of money though.
@@MrExitStrategy I have the jjarvelete and had it for about 6months, it's killing my back, I've not had bad bachache before but I do now. Hate it
test
how tall are you ??
5'7"
What a great review!
That is too much for a freaking chair.
No it isn't. Think about what you're actually investing in. You're investing in the health of your back for a product that will last at least a decade. People will happily pay 3k for a TV that looks slightly better than their previous, but when faced with something that actually provides serious improvement to your posture and overall back health people will go "wtf??? 500 for a CHAIR?? I can just sit on a stool for $10"
If you're sitting down for extended periods every single day, a quality chair with good back support is very important in the long run.
Herman miller is a expensive brand yes.
But...
The health of your back is not worth the money? If you spend 90% of the time sitting for work I would highly recommend ergonomic chairs for healthy reasons.
People pay $500-$1,000 for a phone they change every 2-3 years. Pretty sure a $2,000 chair that will last at MININUM 12 years and serves to keep your health in place is very much worth it.
300 hours on the chair in just the last 14 days! That gives you 14 hours a week off chair?! When do you sleep? I hope it was a mistake.