Here's my new Eternals Thanos and Starfox Deleted Scenes and Alternate Ending video. Post all your Thanos theories in the comments! Here's my Kit Harington Eternals Black Knight Deleted Scene too! ua-cam.com/video/Hx21UUaLBG8/v-deo.html
It was always obvious to me that Thanos was not a villain. Thanos spared the lives of the Avengers multiple times. Even when he stabbed Stark the wound was not fatal. He did not completely crush War Machine, and didn't kill Captain America when he had multiple opportunities. He could have crushed Wanda's head like a grape as well when taking Vision's infinity stone. Instead he petted her like a dog. He phased Banner into rock but didn't kill him, and spared Dr. Strange and the Guardians of the Galaxy too. Thanos believed that what he was doing was best for the universe. Deranged? Yes, but not pure evil.
This version of Thanos was also on “holy” mission. It wasn’t about only killing, but to fight a cause regardless of its costs. You could see Thanos in Endgame didn’t hesitate to kill, but kept being stopped by Avengers.
I agree that mcu Thanos is not pure evil. More like an anti hero cranked up to 11. I do kinda miss the comic version's infatuation with death, but in cinematic format I am prepared to accept such alterations.
I love how Thanos is being unveiled as more of an antihero than a villian, and how they"re providing new perspectives on his reasoning and methods for population control.
This makes more sense than saying that Thanos wanted to prevent the universe from going hungry. And it still makes not much sense, as populations would still just grow back. So destroying the infinity stones was really dumb.
@@maythesciencebewithyou They should have stuck with the comic book reasoning. Would have made "sense" and solidified his reasoning/character for who he really was.
It would be lovely if Thanos is included in the Eternals storyline going forward Maybe an opposite perspective of him as an anti hero type. Thanos' benevolent reasons for the snap were outweighed by his terrible means of achieving this goal I would like to see more of that moral struggle with a young Thanos trying to find his purpose in the universe
I mean it would still be an incredibly stupid plan, even if he snapped half the population of every planet to prevent the celestials from being birthed, they would get back to that population before long anyway, and the same thing would happen. It's a little more intelligent than the whole "resource deprivation" motive, but it's still incredibly stupid. This is honestly the issue with making bad narrative decision's, even if you slightly retcon it down the line, it doesn't make much more sense, especially because he destroyed the infinity stones, perhaps the only things capable of dealing with the celestials, when he was done. Thanos purpose in the MCU was apparently to be a very dangerous idiot with no understanding of population dynamics or the long term effects of his actions... I don't think you can argue his actions were benevolent, because he would have been granting those people a relatively short (compared to the grand scale of the universe) number of year's at best, meanwhile the people living on those planets are now going to come after him with a vengeance and try to reverse what was happening (he could have used the mind stone to erase their memory of the people gone at least). What he could have done was find a way to permanently limit those populations, or to increase the number of resources, or any number of things that make more sense. If he had spent half the time crusading around the universe as he had converting people to his cause and teaching them his ideology, he probably would have been far more successful. Thanos is the perfect example of a great character that was misused by the writer's 😐
@@AveSicarius Thanos wanted a better life for everyone, and harmony with nature. So wouldn't make sense kill 100% percent of the population, who would live better if there was no one to live?
@@leticia1609 he's not saying kill everyone and everything. He's saying Thanos could have found a different way to go about his plan of stopping the Celestial's (I mean he did have all the stones which grant a RIDICULOUS amount of power to the wielder).With those stones he DIDN'T have to kill anyone really, he could have honestly magicked a system of population control and used the stones to keep the populous safe from the Celestial's.
I have to say I'm really glad they deleted a lot of these scenes. The Thanos retcon would be awful. We spend multiple movies understanding Thanos' rationale and he specifically talks about the reason he believes overpopulation is a problem is there are finite resources that can sustain the population and this was the reason the population on Titan became extinct. There was never once anything about how overpopulation results in celestials being born and that is what destroys planets. Also, in Eternals, it clearly show that the entire planet gets destroyed during the birth of a celestial, not just the population. Titan is clearly still around, the population was just wiped out, so it wasn't a celestial being born that destroyed it. I think a better explanation would be that the original Eternals sent to Titan rebelled against Arishem (or another celestial that sent them there) and prevented the birth of the celestial there. Eros and Thanos are not Eternals sent there, but instead the children of an Eternal, similar to the comics, but unlike the comics, they are half titan as well. They would have been born after the original Eternals on Titan prevented the celestial being born. Thanos is eventually banished from Titan because of his proposal to kill half the population, but Eros remained there. Since the planet wasn't destroyed by the birth of a celestial it allowed it to grow in population to the point where it ran out of resources to sustain the population. Prior to the population of Titan being wiped out, some of the residents managed to evacuate. Eros' Eternal parent, who could also be the prime Eternal for Titan, chose to remain on Titan and sent Eros off planet, also passing on the prime eternal title onto him. Shortly before he was evacuated, his Eternal parent could have explained the Eternals on Titan's original mission and their origins, which would include the world forge. Eros is now looking for other Eternals on other planets across the galaxy, which is why he wasn't there to help stop Thanos. After Professor Hulk's snap to bring back the other half of the population, he went track down the Eternals on Earth, knowing they'd have a large and intelligent enough population to birth a celestial. This would explain: -How Thanos and Eros are brothers but Thanos didn't know or mention the Eternals in IF and Endgame -Why Eros has more knowledge about Eternals and Celestials than Earth's eternals -How Eros is able find the Earth's eternals and why he's deciding to seek them out now -Why Eros wasn't around to help stop Thanos
Great summation of points and ideas. Obviously, Marvel had quite a lot to do in order to clean all of this up. Your explanation of Titan's demise and Thanos's plan is much better than what was given to us here in this video breakdown. As you said, Thanos had a specific reason for wanting to eliminate half of the Universe's population, which had nothing to do with an 'Emergence'.
I think that the Thanos problem isn't over, in the comics Thanos was in a relationship with death and many heroes were brought back from the dead in the comics so thanos might be brought back or if you have seen loki their are alternate realities suggesting another thanos or universe where he won. But Thanos might be brought back.
I thought Death was in a relationship with Deadpool, but Thanos was in love with Death, but Death didnt like his way of doing things and killing people because it was too easy?
bro thanos is not going to get brought back, loki establishes beings that make the infinity stones useless. They are focused on Kang and Galactus. Most we might get is a cameo of him
@@Schlex Thanos will be brought back to team up with the Avengers or even Eternals (due to Starfox connection). It is heavily implied Celestials destroyed his home planet due to overpopulation hence why Thanos wiped half the universe population to stop celestials. You forget Thanos only needed the stones to complete his mission. If you know his background, he is powerful even without the stones. He never even used the stones against the Hulk... I guarantee he comes back. Seems a bit silly to introduce Starfox if they are not planning on bringing the Titan back
I find it REAlLY REALLY REALLY hard to believe anybody at Marvel would ever let an ending that killed the main MCU earth be filmed. There's just no way. What I do wonder is if there was an ending where they were successful in stopping the Emergence, but were still recalled and redeployed.
@@baneblackguard584 Well, that's my initial WTF--not only is Titan still there, but buildings, etc are too. Planet looked barren but intact--not exactly split like an egg as every emerging-Eternal image shows us. There are TONS of discontinuity here. Maybe the Eternals are being set up as Intergalactic Charlatans.
In the last Avengers movie there were clues that Thanos' explanation of the destruction of his home planet Titan was not the wholestory - when the Avengers approached the planet they noted it's axis was way off balance and the magnetic and gravitational fields were all shot to hell. Overpopulation and depletion of natural resources doesn't do the kind of damage to a planet the Avengers observed. An interrupted Emergence could certainly have done so.
@@rotyler2177 that isn’t really consistent with the character of Thanos presented in the movies. Titan was completely destroyed, his goal was to avoid that. Unless you are suggesting his part in preventing the Celestial birth, whereby they succeed in one way but still ultimately still failed to save the planet 🤔
@@rotyler2177 Thanos is an Eternal, he was constructed and doesn't have a "home" planet. Titan, the planet he refers to as his home planet, was just the planet the Celestials assigned him to, so it became his home just as the earth's Eternals became bonded to earth and it's people. And like them, Thanos discovered the true purpose they were there, and tried to prevent the Emergence. Thanos says the cause of his planet's demise was too many people, which had been assumed to mean he was talking about the overpopulation causing a depletion of resources, but now we know better. Look at Titan that we saw in the last Avengers movie - the planet clearly suffered major upheaval onto the effects of an aborted Emergence could create. Overpopulation doesnt cause a planet to tip over on it's axis.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 Thanos is not an Eternal. Or maybe he is but he is not constructed he is made of meat and blood. He is a child of Eternal and Deviant. He may know about emergence but he is not an eternal that was assigned to somewhere like others he just born there.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 in the comic version of the Eternals A’lars or “Mentor” & Sui-San were Thonos biological parents which makes him the first biologically created Eternal. . A’lars created a new species of eternals with technology & an ISAAC supercomputer in which him and Sui-San built the civilization on Titan. . This is prior to Thanos being born. . So i would say Titan is his home planet. . And he was not assigned to Titan
I wouldn’t rule out that this “stop the emergence” concept was just one factor, but ultimately his own ego and villain drive was still primary. Could have just been one of many other factors sending him down a path, but hard to believe that was his primary motivation.
I hope that Tiamut appears throughout the MCU from here on out............even within the Disney+ series as well! There's no way you can not have a frozen celestial permanently coming out of the Indian Ocean and it's not being talked about
Sort of a shame, scale of size of Tiamut in the Indian Ocean indicates that it wouldn't be the whole planet in size and what *could* have been done is Sersei could've performed the terrforming version of a "c-section" to let Tiamut depart. Oh well, massive stuff lost. It was mentioned Tiamut was part of that Unimind at the end as well, and could've helped make this happen, thus letting the Earth-MCU become a rarity TWICE now. Again, too bad the options weren't tossed away because Arashem is not part of the original and I think it odd that it has the six eyes whereas Galactus Helmet/Headware has those on it.
@@MediaTHREEH I don't understand, what do you mean that it is odd that it has six eyes. Arishem always had six eyes, if that's what you wanna call them. Also, explain the Galactus part too, I don't understand that either. Another thing is it would have taken a massive amount of power for Sersi to perform a C-section as you say to get Tiamut free from the planet. Do you know how hard that would have been?? Lol
I don't understand why a lot of people didn't like the Eternals. I watched this week and it was a nice movie. (edit: You all make some good points. I personally enjoyed it since I understood this movie was more like setting future plots for the Marvel universe. It could be better, but it was not as bad as many people suggest. I feel I will give it a solid 7/10. Not an amazing movie. Just good in general)
The story line is nice but the way it was directed and edited... not so much. I feel like the director lacks the passion for Marvel stories and it shows. I mean, she may be an Oscar winner but the previous Marvel movies directors have a Keen eye for detail. All in all though, not so bad.
It wasn't a bad movie...it was just SOOOO much going on. Justice League did this as well, but the thing is...most of us are very familiar with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, etc...so cramming them all into one movie wasn't as bad as Eternals who not only had more characters, but they're also lesser known Comic book characters in general. So I would have preferred if Eternals was a Series or a multi part film explaining the individual Eternals and the many...many...many time lines they lived in.
I don't know if this has been addressed in the comments yet, but Strange, Stark, Parker and the Guardians were *ON* Titan with Thanos when he told his story. You show footage of an emergence bursting the host world apart completely, so I do think there's still a big continuity issue. Plus, if you make Thanos' mission about preventing the emergences in order to preserve the lives of the people that would die, then you have to ignore that many worlds that got affected by the snap are not seed worlds. Ultimately, the snap cost a lot more lives than it would have to let the emergences play out. Trying to save Titan by reducing its population? Sure. But his subsequent mission falls apart, narratively speaking, especially since the snap doesn't prevent the Eternals from pushing overpopulation again. Their missions just got 50% longer, which is nothing if you have literal eternal life. As for why Starfox didn't stop Thanos from wiping out half of all sentient life in the universe, how about because the writers hadn't thought of him yet at that point? Some characters that get shoehorned in just can't be made to work in the context of what has come before, no matter how much you retcon. That applied to Captain Marvel, when she had been there during the ninetees all of a sudden, and it applies to the Eternals just as well, who are on a mission to push overpopulation but aren't allowed to intervene when someone tries to achieve the opposite.
You're always right on time with these breakdowns. Just rewatched Eternals last night with the extras. I still laugh every time you refer to Thanos' chin. 🤣
It could also be explained that Thanos has Madweary like Thena, since it’s a case of old memories and new ones clashing and it’s a glitch in their programming, Thanos could have Madweary and know the world is going to end but not exactly how, but he attributes it to overpopulation and self extinction rather than the planet itself being destroyed
I’m not sure if they’d go that route and try to humanise him. It would make his character a lot more layered and overall a better villain sure, but I’m not sure if they’d want to justify/explain his actions any further
I’m kinda hoping they don’t make Thanos an “adopted son” of A’lars, but just the mutated biological son of him. Like, they can make those externals able to reproduce and maybe the celestials did that as an experiment, but the results led them to stop producing eternals that could reproduce. Just seems more interesting that way.
Missed eternals in theaters by one day and finally watched it yesterday. Really liked it! Was surprised it got bad reviews compared to other MCU flicks. I am a sucker for space and high concepts tho
Well it's a little more sci-fi than a traditional marvel movie so I think that's the main reason for the bad reviews. The audience was expecting a story that follows the "Marvel" formula but got something else. It caught people off guard.
@@BlueSparkzVideos I still don't think that it didn't follow Marvel formula. It was no worse or better than many MCU movies and there are plenty of MUC movies that are worse than Eternal.
It got bad reviews because it is veeeerrryyyy slow moving, unfocused and could not figure out how to get us the audience how to care about its characters. So many times in that movie some on screen character would be crying but us in the audience did not feel a thing because we just didn't have any investment in them. And for every 5 minutes of action there was 20 minutes of slow, boring dialog and exposition. All through the movie when I saw it in the theater people were looking at their watches or even checking their phone notifications.
I still think that Thanos' logic is flawed regardless of the drive (purpose). Killing half of all life only delays the "inevitable". Instead why not just destroy all Celestial seeds?
Because the events set in motion was the only way for Kang to control the timeline 😂 any other smarter variant of thanos would’ve been zapped out of existence
Killing the celestial seeds still only delays the inevitable. Celestials will just create more. The real solution is to kill the celestials (seeds included). If the issue is overpopulation, then we wouldn't need new life on new worlds anyways.
Thanos theory! I thought it felt odd that the 'Alpha' deviant was developing a lot of intelligence and personality, just to be cut to bits by Jolies character. What if Thanos is actually a similar type of deviant from Titan that succeeded in absorbing all of the eternals from Titan, besides star fox who then became allied with him...
interesting theory. Only flaw in that is why doesn't he have 6 different abilities? I don't think he ia a deviant, he is an eternal like the rest of them but because of his mutation with the deviants it is possible for him to absorb powers from other eternals. Thanos isn't shown to have any powers outside of being really strong, smart and durable.
The comic kinda says starfox would agree on certain issues with thanos ideas which kinda proves that the intentions thanos had were done in evil manner but it was the same goal as eternals…..
Who wouldn't love to bring back Thanos to the Marvel universe.. I'm game, it'll be pretty cool to see a different version of him. Like we did in the "What If" series..
Might not be that difficult as at least in the comics, he is in love with lady death. And if I remember right, she doesn't like him. So if she banishes him from her realm, he would be immortal. Thus returned to the living. But who knows if they would use that.
I found the eternals made Thanos seem like he did all life an actual good thing because it slowed down the emergence of any celestial. It focused on Earth obviously but we would have to know it was happening all across the universe. There is also talk that Thanos had deviant in him(causing the purple and weird looks) Not sure if that was reason why he did what he did. I'm enjoying the deep thoughts that marvel is now putting into the movies.
6:44 Nooooooo !! Eternals didn't had timeline parallel to SpiderMan nwh or Shangchi or 2024 ending ! It actually had a timeline of May-June 2024 according to Wikipedia and even Disney plus Hotstar of India shows Eternals before Shangchi in the timeline order section of Marvel.
@@sureshmakwana8709 Sooooo Eternals happened before Shang-Chi but nobody talked about the fact that a giant celestial was hovering over earth? (Arishem). Not to mention the giant celestial that is not sticking out of the ocean lol. Amma need them to release that eternals documentary they managed to capture lmao
In essence thanos delayed the emergence and actually helped out many planets that were habitants to celestials ready to be born. Arishem the judges main purpose in the comics is to judge planets life forms after a certain amount of time, and if he likes what he sees he allows them to keep existing, if he doesn’t like what he sees he destroys that planet and solar system and restarts it again, cycle after a cycle
If the Red Skull refers to Gomorra’s and Thanos‘ “metaphorical father” rather than biological father, what about who he says Black Widow’s father is? Why didn’t he say Alexie?
Although I agree that it is a continuity error, Black Widow really only spent time with Alexei during their covert mission in the US. So maybe it doesn't count cause it's not enough. Also another reason why the Black Widow just doesn't work
I mean he wasn't really a father to her. They spent a handful of years together but he never really cared for her like an actual daughter. Hence why he left right away after they returned to Russia.
@@Oibble and her real father she didnt even know his name..... so this explanation is void, cause alexie more of a father than the one she never seen.......
BS. This is just retconning Thanos' mission. He made it very clear that culling half the population was about scarcity of resources to support life, not about reducing life to delay the Emergence. If it was about the Emergence, he would have just snapped the growing Celestials away, not half the population.
Don't worry, it's not canon, wasn't included. Thanos' intentions were as stated in infinity war. There was mention in the movie that a byproduct of the snap was delaying the emergence but it wasn't intentional
You're assuming the Infinity Stones can effect a Celestial in the MCU... Celestials were around BEFORE the Big Bang... BEFORE the Stones' creation. I would surmise that the Gauntlet would do squat against the likes of Areshem.
I like the idea that Thanos knew about the emergence. But if he did, why didn't he tell anyone? Even Gamora who he supposedly was comfortable enough around to talk about his plans, he never mentioned to her about the emergence. At least that's what I assume from her calling him insane which suggests he never gave her a proper good reason. Idk it's interesting and I refuse to accept any plot-holes lol
I'd imagine itd have something to do with Thanos knowing that hed have to also explain that theres literally a 50% chance of the person hes explaining the process to dying, and also he wasnt expecting that hed have to kill his only loved one to attain the soul stone
My guess is that If thanos wanted to stop the emergence, he for sure would've loved Titan a lot... So it would be very tragic for him, making it harder for him to tell anyone. That is a weaker reason but he also probably expect that no one would believe him. Or knowing about the emergence might cause an existential crisis knowing that you're life is pointless as you are just some sort of a charger for these celestials and will be killed afterwards.
I agree with you because Thanos wanted to destroy earth and build a new one because of the avengers reversing the snap, he had one mission of getting done with half of the population.. Then go for retirement, he can't be an internal
@@2thumms487 well he told Gamora about his plans to wipe out half the universe by snapping his fingers, he just never seemed to tell them about the emergence
But Titan wasn't destroyed by an emergence. They fought ON Titan.... with Thanos even mentioning how beautiful the planet once was. It still ended due to overpopulation and lack of resources. They may have stopped the emergence and that led to the planet's destruction further down the line, but it wasn't due to a Celestial since the planet was still there... just uninhabited.
the celestials don't completely destroy the planet, only break out of the crust killing all life. Titan had it's axis changed by 18 degrees, and its gravity was completely messed up. Something that an emergence could cause. Overpopulation and lack of resources don't change the axis of a planet
@@Aj-py8en they literally state that the planets the celestials are born from get destroyed. They even showed a planet getting destroyed from the birth of a celestial in the eternals movie. Even the director said she was planning on having the celestial in earth birthed which would've caused the earth to explode in the original ending. Titan is also smaller than earth so s celestial birthing from titan should've obliterated the damn thing way more easily than earth. Thanos statement made it sound like a war happened on titan because of lack of resources and overpopulation which could've caused the planets to get all f'd up the way it did considering the fact that titan was more advanced than earth so the weaponry they used against each other could've thrown the planet off balance.
@@Aj-py8en the movie inferred that the planets blew up (3:47), but they'll definitely need a better explanation like yours if they want to bring Titan into it.
This makes Thanos actually look like the good guy... I mean, what's the point of Celestials creating life and allowing it to develop just so they accumulate energy to support the emergence of a new celestial? Makes them sound like selfish assholes, like their existence and expansion is the only thing that matters.
When she signed "We haven't heard from any of them." she meant Sersi, Phastos, and Kingo because she's looking at the Earth. They don't know that Arishem took them to The World Forge to study their memories.
What i would really like to see as a show/series... is a history of each Infinity Stones... who has held them before, what happened to them... we know that the Celestial, Esson the Searcher had the Power Stone at one point.... and that Vormyr is in the heart of "Celestial Space".
Isn't a planet supposed to be completely destroyed in order for a Celestrial to be born? However in Infinity War, we see Titan is damaged but still exists. It looks more like an aftermath of constant global wars than a result of an emergence.
All this time, Thanos has been trying to bring balance to every planet he travelled to in the universe but to make things easier he wanted the 'Infinity Stones' to do so because he knew what was coming. He tried to explain himself but clearly he didn't come out with the whole truth because it was probably too much to explain and our avengers was just too stubborn to sit down and talk things through with him. Damn! 😂
@@DrewLSsix I will shred this universe down to its last atom and then, with the stones you've collected for me, create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost, but only what it has been given. A grateful universe. -Thanos
So all the planets have seeds? This is Stupid also after the snap only 100 years the population of earth will bound back. This stupid trying change Thanos origins on why he try to kill the half universe.
It would be fantastic if Thanos were to become a part of the Eternals tale in the future. Perhaps from the point of view of an anti-hero type. Thanos' good intentions for the snap were undermined by his dreadful method of doing it. I'd want to see more of Thanos' moral battle as he searches for his place in the cosmos as a young man.
Another cool video! Thanks! Two questions though: 1) If Eternals are created to blend in with the population of their host planet, why does Starfox look human. Did people on Titan look human? I assume they did, just based on the few comic book images in the video, but just checking. 2) In the alternate ending Tiamat emerged and Earth was destroyed, making the story of the Eternals belong to an alternate universe in the multiverse. But is this possibly still the case, even though Earth was not destroyed? Are there any confirmations/Easter eggs in Spiderman, Hawkeye of a giant stone titan in the Indian ocean? I don't remember. Maybe the Eternals are STILL in an alternate universe and they will crossover with the main MCU in a future movie.
In order for audiences to feel more empathetic, we usually implement human being or human-looking creatures so we won’t be really scared. That’s why most aliens from fiction are just different colored people or humanoid beings with similar limbs and body style to us.
Thank God someone is finally breaking this movie down the way it should be. The scale of this movie is so much greater than people give it credit for and you delved right into it! thank you!
Should’ve been broken up between two movies, or been a tv series. That way, they could’ve spent actual time developing things. Much easier to do that with 8 hours of show, instead of a 2.5 hour movie.
If Thanos knew about the celestials and wipe out half of the universe to stop them from emerging, why not use the stones to erase the celestials? or at least the sleeping ones
@@markk_g Ultravision can easily stomp group of Celestials if he has the stones. It took Supreme Strange to stop him, and Supreme Strange is much stronger than Celestials, heck he's probably ONLY less powerful than Living Tribunal and TOAA.
Weren't there two Celestials among the Cosmic beings who fought Thanos in Infinity Gauntlet? (Plus Galactus and Eternity) Thanos still won. So if Thanos' goal was to "save" life and the universe from the Celestials' threat, he should have targeted the Celestials directly. THe back story doesn't really make much sense to support the trillion + genocide.
I agree. I just commented that I don't like where their headed. It seems sloppy. The writers room needs to have better communication with their co workers. 😤 I'm not complaining but I don't want them to get complacent
@@DrewLSsix Charlie will often talk about what happens in the comics...it is relevant. And it's most relevant, when Thanos throughout Infinity War and Endgame makes his justification one of population control for the universe. Horrible, but an interesting take. It may end up being lazy writing, if Thanos is later revealed to be doing it for "noble" purposes. What, the Infinity Stones wouldn't work on Celestials, at all? They affected Peter Quill some.
I disagree, I think they're going to give a way to explain Thanos being born different. Thanos has a deviant gene that needs to be explained and by natural mutation make more sense to me
The deviants need to be explained certainly and on Titan they may have evolved differently just as the one on Earth was doing during the course of the Eternals movie. Then Starfox could say they are "brothers" in that they are both children of Eternals but not actually blood related beings. The "Titans of Titan" could therefore have been a people of Deviant DNA base on some level. There's a whole host of possible options here as to how this could've happened and thus escaped "Eternals Intervention" the way described going on with Earth. This story could've been handled so much better in hindsight, and we needed to have someone like Makaari around more in the movie to help explain some of this (the super-book reader she was).
I have a theory that a'lar the father of thanos and eros is a deviant that turned into eternal.. As u already saw in the movie, that when deviant absorbed eternals power they also absorbed eternals memories. Idk how many eternals that has been absorbed by this deviant, but i assume the last eternal that had been absorbed its power is the real a'lar, but with the power of a'lar and the memories of others absorbed eternals, it makes the conciousness of the deviant has been taken over by the real a'lar and makes a'lar is an eternal in deviant's body. i think after this incident, thanos and eros are born as a twin, in which thanos is dominant with deviant gene, while eros is more into like human gene..
Always giving the best and simplest explanations. My brain has been frying the past couple of days with all these new deleted scenes and theories about the celestials and eternals. THANK YOU!
With so many prime eternals rebelling after gaining knowledge of their true mission I find it difficult to believe that cersi (can't spell the damn name) would have done something about that when reprogramming the eternals after wiping their minds to quell any further rebellion or was that lost to him due to his own arrogance?
Okay I’m confused. If Thanos is an Eternal that means he was created in the “World Forge” by the Celestials right? 🤔 Edit: okay now I have my answers. Charlie pretty much covered it by the end of the video 😀
In the Comics... Eternals aren't androids. Thanos is an Eternal born with the Deviant gene (a Mutant). That's why he looks like Grimace, and his brother Eros looks "normal".
How are they gonna address the Celestial coming out of the ocean like that? That blows my mind to think about the explanation they are gonna give us. Just a thought
They don’t get on ships and leave. They die with the planet during emergence but their consciousness moves back to the factory for memory wipe and redeployment.
Why would you need to move a consciousness back to the forge just to factory-reset it? Simpler to just start with another copy of the mind in a new body. Just another plot hole in this movie.
In the comics Thanos and Eros are third-generation Eternals. Their grandfather was the original prime Eternal of Titan. (Sersi was able to let Sprite age so if Thanos and Eros were 'engineered' by their father aging until adulthood could have been part of their base design).
@@ScionStorm1 but she only made sprite age by MAKING her human while borrowing celestial energy...... shes literally number 18 from dragonball without powers now....
@@levondarratt787 hes a confirmed deviant- eternal hybrid in comics and mcu just neither explain the how or why cause eros is not in comics or mcu its very odd
In addition to learning the connection between Starfox & Thanos, I really want Starfox to find a way to activate Star-Lord's Celestial genes that's presumed lost because Ego's dead = I hope James Gunn makes that happen so Quill & Adam Warlock can battle the High Evolutionary (saving Rocket) in GoTG3!!!
I was good up till Loki's Disney+ series when the storylines started to branch out into different parallels (hence multiverse) & that's when I realized, the 4th stage of the MCU is actually a college course to a Master degree into Marvel Madness. Now, I won't worry as much to think that hard and just go for the ride.
the same "reason" why no other Avengers show up in Thor 2 to help defeat Malekith (so they can $h*t out solo movies, that don't make much sense after the first teamup movie, imho, but whatever)
I’ve always thought of the MCU Thanos as an anti-hero. It made him ten times more compelling than 616 Thanos. I hope we see some Thanos flashbacks in an Eternals sequel, if they make one.
the MCU Earth isn't even the main Earth, that'd be the 616 Earth (the MCU multiverse is actually a sub-multiverse, a facet of the Marvel multiverse... or some $h*t like that)
That is a good explanation for Thanos being an anti hero but then it raises the questions of why the eternals didn't interfere if his goal was in DIRECT opposition of the celestials. They were told not to interfere, but wouldn't that be the exact situation they were made to intervene in?
In MCU and Marvel comics( in all comics) is full with these kind of plotholes, or even worse, which is normal for comics. Welcome to the world of comic book and films, get use to it.😂😂😂
There’s also the possibility that Thanos didn’t know about the Celestial seed and eros decided not to interfere with that because it actually checks out
@Jackal Junkie I am not saying its a perfect movie, I am saying regardless its still a good movie and the degree of hate it got is completely undeserving. Its not a bad movie in general let alone within MCU movies. But I guess its matter of individual opinion.
@@tmac731 of course not. Did we hear the Russo brothers say this do we hear the “god” Kevin Feige say this…… I wish these “” influencers “”stop making of this nonsense and feed it to the masses🙏🏾
Didn’t feel this MCU movie.. I found it lacking in character development. Boring and lack luster. The CGI was on point but other than that wasn’t worth the watch.
Actually, they could've done that ending, where the earth got destroyed, then in the post credit scene, they can reveal it was just an illusion/or a vision from Starfox. Him saying "We could prevent all this from happening..." Eternals sequel. Just a thought
Actually, the eternals happens 7 days after the avengers snap, while far from home happens months after that, aswell as wandavision, falcon and the winter soldier, shang-chi... The eternals is the closest thing to endgame talking about the timeline, So no, no way home couldn't be happening at the same time as the emergence
@@droosef Ajak says so, she says they have 7 days to stop the emergence from the moment the avengers bring everyone back, and far from home is set months later, with Peter still mourning his death and those memorials trailers at the high school tv
Thanos blow a big hole in Titan, in the first Avengers movie (2012). First end credit scene, time 2:15:39. Brighten or increase your contrast. That's not a random moon, its Titan with a big hole in it. More evidence. When Star Lord arrived on Titan in Avengers Infinity War time 1:21:55 he says, WTH happened to this planet? It's 8 degrees off its access, gravitational pull is all over the place. You can only guess he arrived on the other side and couldn't see that part of the planet was missing.
You forgot that in the End Game Thanos' new plan was to wipe entire population, not just the half. He wanted to start all over again, he didn't care about the population, his sole concern was over population and over usage of resources.
@@next-level-consultants you missed the theory being discussed in the video. As per the youtuber Thanos wiped half the population to save the Titan and its population by stopping emergence. Wiping entire population would also kill the purpose of saving his planet and people. Got the point?
Also if he wanted to stop emergence to save his people, killing half of the population just on his planet would be much easier for him than wiping half the population of entire universe.
U missed the point as well, in the endgame titan is already destroyed, and he dont have reason to save titan, so when thanos changed his intention because of the stubborn avengers, it doesnt matter
I'm ready for starfox to meet guardians of the Galaxy ..... I'm also ready for Adam warlock and hopefully Captain marvel can meet the guardians as well...... I never doubt Kevin feige some things are kind of weak to me but overall he's getting and A Plus on this storytelling I have faith that the next installment of Star Fox and pip will be absolutely on time and phenomenal
If Starfox is a Prime Eternal like Ajak and you say Prime Eternals are "crazy powerful", how come Ajak got killed by the Deviants so easy? We never even got to see what powers Ajak really has other than her healing powers...
well considering ikirus fed ajak to a group of deviants, which is a scene in the movie it would completely explain how ajak was killed by a deviant, or did you just ignore the deviant "Kor" who absorbed ajak and gilgamesh's power?
@@MrKrispee that still doesn’t answer my question. Again, if as Charlie says that Prime Eternals are "crazy powerful", how did she get killed by the deviants so easy? If she’s "crazy powerful" why did she resort to shooting at the deviants with a shotgun? Lol
Nott all celestials are as gigantic as they have so far appeared in the MCU. Which could mean that while the birthing of a celestial on Titan could've caused an extinction level event, it may not have literally ripped the planted apart.
Everyone died on Titan. No intelligent life to draw energy from so the Celestial never emerged. No conflict with Infinity War. ...Unless Ego was supposed to be the Titan Celestial.
My only question remains is this : Whether or not Celestial population would have halved when Thanks snapped and brought in the blip ? And If so , shouldn't Celestials be grateful to Avengers and Earth in general for helping to bring back half of the celestials ? 🤔
Thanos's story makes sense, but he also becomes the villian after getting so angry with the Avengers, that he wants to just kill them all and he was going to enjoy it.
That's what make him fail in the End Game. He was destined to erased halft of the universe population, it was his destiny. He is inevitable as long as he follow his destiny. The moment he stray from that path, he fail.
it was implied that him wanting to reset the universe in end game was because life in the universe didn't understand that the snap was a lesson and an opportunity given to them to start anew and not make mistakes leading to their planets demise. Changing his story to be about the celestials ruins his nuance and makes him seem more shallow as a character.
@@Salmagros Actually leaks of multiverse of madness have said that Dr strange actually altered reality in the events of Endgame, Thanos was supposed to win. This is one of the many things Dr. Strange has done that is causing his universe to rapture, messing with what was "meant" to happen, now multiverse of madness is here, it's caused by more than just the events of spiderman no way home.
The whole all eternals are robots created directly and individually by celestials is beyond stupid and doesn't make sense since thanos was born a baby on titan smh.
Crazy Theory time. Surtur was an eternal baby, who Odin removed from the "planet" Asgard. Asgard looked like a planet torn in half kinda-sorta, with an edge. Odin could conceivably do all that with his magic and remove the eternal from the planet and banish it to an underworld, where Surtur waited until it was his time to consume the planet and grow as big as a house, I mean, mountain. Not the Marvel Comics version but the MCU version . . . I like that and I'm going to go with it.
I absolutely loved this movie, it's hands-down my favourite MCU movie by far. HOWEVER, I think they really didn't need to turn the Eternals into celestial robots. There's literally no need, and it just complicates things relating to Thanos, Starfox etc.
The entire movie messes up a lot of things, like the one guy who made the engine and stuff. The movie implied that he invented everything we know today, that’s a bit to much.and thanks isn’t a eternal. There also I gaint celestial head in the ocean. Everything. ALSO I think it’s hands-down the ABSOLUTE WORST MCU movie for the stated reasons.
@@GlitchCookin Phastos is based off Hephaestus from Greek Mythology, who they credit for inventing lots of things. So that’s not an issue. Thanos is an Eternal, both here and in the comics. Not sure what the story issue is with there being a Celestial in the ocean? This is a comic book movie, crazier stuff has happened.
Here's my new Eternals Thanos and Starfox Deleted Scenes and Alternate Ending video. Post all your Thanos theories in the comments! Here's my Kit Harington Eternals Black Knight Deleted Scene too! ua-cam.com/video/Hx21UUaLBG8/v-deo.html
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Eternals 2 has to happen
Do you think a version of Ikrias will show up again
I love your channel and I hope you will some day become the biggest marvel UA-camer
@@midknight2115 nah I don’t think it will happen . I mean clearly Ikaris shouldn’t even be able to survive that
It was always obvious to me that Thanos was not a villain. Thanos spared the lives of the Avengers multiple times. Even when he stabbed Stark the wound was not fatal. He did not completely crush War Machine, and didn't kill Captain America when he had multiple opportunities. He could have crushed Wanda's head like a grape as well when taking Vision's infinity stone. Instead he petted her like a dog. He phased Banner into rock but didn't kill him, and spared Dr. Strange and the Guardians of the Galaxy too. Thanos believed that what he was doing was best for the universe. Deranged? Yes, but not pure evil.
50% of the avengers got wiped out still - so makes sense why he would spare the rest he had to stay true to his word
Thanos face wasn't even a villains. Except his appearances on Guardians of the Galaxy and end credits scene in Avengers
This version of Thanos was also on “holy” mission.
It wasn’t about only killing, but to fight a cause regardless of its costs.
You could see Thanos in Endgame didn’t hesitate to kill, but kept being stopped by Avengers.
Thanos was pure evil. He was a religious zealot.
I agree that mcu Thanos is not pure evil. More like an anti hero cranked up to 11. I do kinda miss the comic version's infatuation with death, but in cinematic format I am prepared to accept such alterations.
I love how Thanos is being unveiled as more of an antihero than a villian, and how they"re providing new perspectives on his reasoning and methods for population control.
This makes more sense than saying that Thanos wanted to prevent the universe from going hungry. And it still makes not much sense, as populations would still just grow back. So destroying the infinity stones was really dumb.
@@maythesciencebewithyou was somebody elses problem at that point, thanos did his job
Tbh I'm pretty sure everyone understood his reasoning when Infinity War dropped
@@maythesciencebewithyou They should have stuck with the comic book reasoning. Would have made "sense" and solidified his reasoning/character for who he really was.
@@Neurodrill That the real purpose behind Thanos erasing half the universe was because he wanted Death's love?
It would be lovely if Thanos is included in the Eternals storyline going forward
Maybe an opposite perspective of him as an anti hero type.
Thanos' benevolent reasons for the snap were outweighed by his terrible means of achieving this goal
I would like to see more of that moral struggle with a young Thanos trying to find his purpose in the universe
I mean it would still be an incredibly stupid plan, even if he snapped half the population of every planet to prevent the celestials from being birthed, they would get back to that population before long anyway, and the same thing would happen. It's a little more intelligent than the whole "resource deprivation" motive, but it's still incredibly stupid. This is honestly the issue with making bad narrative decision's, even if you slightly retcon it down the line, it doesn't make much more sense, especially because he destroyed the infinity stones, perhaps the only things capable of dealing with the celestials, when he was done.
Thanos purpose in the MCU was apparently to be a very dangerous idiot with no understanding of population dynamics or the long term effects of his actions... I don't think you can argue his actions were benevolent, because he would have been granting those people a relatively short (compared to the grand scale of the universe) number of year's at best, meanwhile the people living on those planets are now going to come after him with a vengeance and try to reverse what was happening (he could have used the mind stone to erase their memory of the people gone at least). What he could have done was find a way to permanently limit those populations, or to increase the number of resources, or any number of things that make more sense. If he had spent half the time crusading around the universe as he had converting people to his cause and teaching them his ideology, he probably would have been far more successful.
Thanos is the perfect example of a great character that was misused by the writer's 😐
@@AveSicarius Thanos wanted a better life for everyone, and harmony with nature. So wouldn't make sense kill 100% percent of the population, who would live better if there was no one to live?
@@leticia1609 he's not saying kill everyone and everything. He's saying Thanos could have found a different way to go about his plan of stopping the Celestial's (I mean he did have all the stones which grant a RIDICULOUS amount of power to the wielder).With those stones he DIDN'T have to kill anyone really, he could have honestly magicked a system of population control and used the stones to keep the populous safe from the Celestial's.
@@leticia1609 based
He got be headed and then erased from time in 2014
I have to say I'm really glad they deleted a lot of these scenes.
The Thanos retcon would be awful. We spend multiple movies understanding Thanos' rationale and he specifically talks about the reason he believes overpopulation is a problem is there are finite resources that can sustain the population and this was the reason the population on Titan became extinct. There was never once anything about how overpopulation results in celestials being born and that is what destroys planets. Also, in Eternals, it clearly show that the entire planet gets destroyed during the birth of a celestial, not just the population. Titan is clearly still around, the population was just wiped out, so it wasn't a celestial being born that destroyed it.
I think a better explanation would be that the original Eternals sent to Titan rebelled against Arishem (or another celestial that sent them there) and prevented the birth of the celestial there. Eros and Thanos are not Eternals sent there, but instead the children of an Eternal, similar to the comics, but unlike the comics, they are half titan as well. They would have been born after the original Eternals on Titan prevented the celestial being born. Thanos is eventually banished from Titan because of his proposal to kill half the population, but Eros remained there. Since the planet wasn't destroyed by the birth of a celestial it allowed it to grow in population to the point where it ran out of resources to sustain the population. Prior to the population of Titan being wiped out, some of the residents managed to evacuate. Eros' Eternal parent, who could also be the prime Eternal for Titan, chose to remain on Titan and sent Eros off planet, also passing on the prime eternal title onto him. Shortly before he was evacuated, his Eternal parent could have explained the Eternals on Titan's original mission and their origins, which would include the world forge. Eros is now looking for other Eternals on other planets across the galaxy, which is why he wasn't there to help stop Thanos. After Professor Hulk's snap to bring back the other half of the population, he went track down the Eternals on Earth, knowing they'd have a large and intelligent enough population to birth a celestial.
This would explain:
-How Thanos and Eros are brothers but Thanos didn't know or mention the Eternals in IF and Endgame
-Why Eros has more knowledge about Eternals and Celestials than Earth's eternals
-How Eros is able find the Earth's eternals and why he's deciding to seek them out now
-Why Eros wasn't around to help stop Thanos
Great summation of points and ideas.
Obviously, Marvel had quite a lot to do in order to clean all of this up. Your explanation of Titan's demise and Thanos's plan is much better than what was given to us here in this video breakdown. As you said, Thanos had a specific reason for wanting to eliminate half of the Universe's population, which had nothing to do with an 'Emergence'.
This just goes to show how bad Eternals was, and almost destroyed / retconned everything that was good in the MCU.
How did titan entire planet shift on its axis by starvation?
Kevin F: "write that down ✍️✍️"
@@Slaughterproof @Shawnchamberlain y’all just aren’t nerds shut up
“With the nut sack chin” made me laugh so damn hard for no reason 😂
Thinos.
Chinsticles
I think that the Thanos problem isn't over, in the comics Thanos was in a relationship with death and many heroes were brought back from the dead in the comics so thanos might be brought back or if you have seen loki their are alternate realities suggesting another thanos or universe where he won. But Thanos might be brought back.
I thought Death was in a relationship with Deadpool, but Thanos was in love with Death, but Death didnt like his way of doing things and killing people because it was too easy?
@@maryna9117 I don't read comics much so that might be true
bro thanos is not going to get brought back, loki establishes beings that make the infinity stones useless. They are focused on Kang and Galactus. Most we might get is a cameo of him
@@Schlex Thanos will be brought back to team up with the Avengers or even Eternals (due to Starfox connection). It is heavily implied Celestials destroyed his home planet due to overpopulation hence why Thanos wiped half the universe population to stop celestials. You forget Thanos only needed the stones to complete his mission. If you know his background, he is powerful even without the stones. He never even used the stones against the Hulk... I guarantee he comes back. Seems a bit silly to introduce Starfox if they are not planning on bringing the Titan back
@@MarkSmith-js2sh that’s literally never implied at all. Its just a theory.
I find it REAlLY REALLY REALLY hard to believe anybody at Marvel would ever let an ending that killed the main MCU earth be filmed. There's just no way. What I do wonder is if there was an ending where they were successful in stopping the Emergence, but were still recalled and redeployed.
If they did there'd have to be some legitimate way to reverse it... otherwise there's no point.
Exactly Tiamut is dead.
that makes no sense lmao,
in the movie they almost make it seem like he was emerging without destroying the planet.
@@baneblackguard584 Well, that's my initial WTF--not only is Titan still there, but buildings, etc are too. Planet looked barren but intact--not exactly split like an egg as every emerging-Eternal image shows us. There are TONS of discontinuity here. Maybe the Eternals are being set up as Intergalactic Charlatans.
In the last Avengers movie there were clues that Thanos' explanation of the destruction of his home planet Titan was not the wholestory - when the Avengers approached the planet they noted it's axis was way off balance and the magnetic and gravitational fields were all shot to hell. Overpopulation and depletion of natural resources doesn't do the kind of damage to a planet the Avengers observed. An interrupted Emergence could certainly have done so.
Thanos destroyed his Homeworld as far as I understand. He decided a way to stop overpopulation and carried through with it. Im no expert tho.
@@rotyler2177 that isn’t really consistent with the character of Thanos presented in the movies.
Titan was completely destroyed, his goal was to avoid that.
Unless you are suggesting his part in preventing the Celestial birth, whereby they succeed in one way but still ultimately still failed to save the planet 🤔
@@rotyler2177 Thanos is an Eternal, he was constructed and doesn't have a "home" planet. Titan, the planet he refers to as his home planet, was just the planet the Celestials assigned him to, so it became his home just as the earth's Eternals became bonded to earth and it's people. And like them, Thanos discovered the true purpose they were there, and tried to prevent the Emergence. Thanos says the cause of his planet's demise was too many people, which had been assumed to mean he was talking about the overpopulation causing a depletion of resources, but now we know better. Look at Titan that we saw in the last Avengers movie - the planet clearly suffered major upheaval onto the effects of an aborted Emergence could create. Overpopulation doesnt cause a planet to tip over on it's axis.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 Thanos is not an Eternal. Or maybe he is but he is not constructed he is made of meat and blood. He is a child of Eternal and Deviant. He may know about emergence but he is not an eternal that was assigned to somewhere like others he just born there.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 in the comic version of the Eternals A’lars or “Mentor” & Sui-San were Thonos biological parents which makes him the first biologically created Eternal. . A’lars created a new species of eternals with technology & an ISAAC supercomputer in which him and Sui-San built the civilization on Titan. . This is prior to Thanos being born. . So i would say Titan is his home planet. . And he was not assigned to Titan
I wouldn’t rule out that this “stop the emergence” concept was just one factor, but ultimately his own ego and villain drive was still primary. Could have just been one of many other factors sending him down a path, but hard to believe that was his primary motivation.
There is also the fact that because of thanos having the deviant gene making him purple he was bullied and ridiculed by everyone
Didn't he say before that he tried once to do his plan and it didn't happen or something?
@@teammfmjamie I’m still trying to wrap my head around the revelation that eternals are synthetic
I hope that Tiamut appears throughout the MCU from here on out............even within the Disney+ series as well!
There's no way you can not have a frozen celestial permanently coming out of the Indian Ocean and it's not being talked about
Newest wonder of the world perhaps?...
Oh fuck theyre gonna capitalize a fuckin frozen celestial
@@thekirbycrafter7229 of corse they are!!! They'll even try to create a cult from it lol
Not frozen. It’s marble
Sort of a shame, scale of size of Tiamut in the Indian Ocean indicates that it wouldn't be the whole planet in size and what *could* have been done is Sersei could've performed the terrforming version of a "c-section" to let Tiamut depart. Oh well, massive stuff lost. It was mentioned Tiamut was part of that Unimind at the end as well, and could've helped make this happen, thus letting the Earth-MCU become a rarity TWICE now. Again, too bad the options weren't tossed away because Arashem is not part of the original and I think it odd that it has the six eyes whereas Galactus Helmet/Headware has those on it.
@@MediaTHREEH I don't understand, what do you mean that it is odd that it has six eyes. Arishem always had six eyes, if that's what you wanna call them. Also, explain the Galactus part too, I don't understand that either. Another thing is it would have taken a massive amount of power for Sersi to perform a C-section as you say to get Tiamut free from the planet. Do you know how hard that would have been?? Lol
I don't understand why a lot of people didn't like the Eternals. I watched this week and it was a nice movie.
(edit: You all make some good points. I personally enjoyed it since I understood this movie was more like setting future plots for the Marvel universe. It could be better, but it was not as bad as many people suggest. I feel I will give it a solid 7/10. Not an amazing movie. Just good in general)
It had amazing cgi
The story line is nice but the way it was directed and edited... not so much. I feel like the director lacks the passion for Marvel stories and it shows. I mean, she may be an Oscar winner but the previous Marvel movies directors have a Keen eye for detail. All in all though, not so bad.
I just watched last night. IMDb gives a 6.7 seems about right. Not bad.
@@jrodayeoh yes.
It wasn't a bad movie...it was just SOOOO much going on. Justice League did this as well, but the thing is...most of us are very familiar with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, etc...so cramming them all into one movie wasn't as bad as Eternals who not only had more characters, but they're also lesser known Comic book characters in general.
So I would have preferred if Eternals was a Series or a multi part film explaining the individual Eternals and the many...many...many time lines they lived in.
I don't know if this has been addressed in the comments yet, but Strange, Stark, Parker and the Guardians were *ON* Titan with Thanos when he told his story. You show footage of an emergence bursting the host world apart completely, so I do think there's still a big continuity issue. Plus, if you make Thanos' mission about preventing the emergences in order to preserve the lives of the people that would die, then you have to ignore that many worlds that got affected by the snap are not seed worlds.
Ultimately, the snap cost a lot more lives than it would have to let the emergences play out. Trying to save Titan by reducing its population? Sure. But his subsequent mission falls apart, narratively speaking, especially since the snap doesn't prevent the Eternals from pushing overpopulation again. Their missions just got 50% longer, which is nothing if you have literal eternal life.
As for why Starfox didn't stop Thanos from wiping out half of all sentient life in the universe, how about because the writers hadn't thought of him yet at that point? Some characters that get shoehorned in just can't be made to work in the context of what has come before, no matter how much you retcon. That applied to Captain Marvel, when she had been there during the ninetees all of a sudden, and it applies to the Eternals just as well, who are on a mission to push overpopulation but aren't allowed to intervene when someone tries to achieve the opposite.
You're always right on time with these breakdowns. Just rewatched Eternals last night with the extras. I still laugh every time you refer to Thanos' chin. 🤣
Haha word same
@Beans I've watched most of the deleted scenes online. I wish Disney+ would have had some as extras.
Ha! Just watched it last night as well!
Same! My mom decided to watch it since it now came out on disney plus! I missed so much watching it
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It could also be explained that Thanos has Madweary like Thena, since it’s a case of old memories and new ones clashing and it’s a glitch in their programming, Thanos could have Madweary and know the world is going to end but not exactly how, but he attributes it to overpopulation and self extinction rather than the planet itself being destroyed
This makes 0 sense
I can get behind that. if they go this route with thanos back story
I’m not sure if they’d go that route and try to humanise him. It would make his character a lot more layered and overall a better villain sure, but I’m not sure if they’d want to justify/explain his actions any further
@@thechubchubsarchives9355 ya we be a bit too much back traicking
@@juubicortex8178 Well explain your viewpoint then!
I’m kinda hoping they don’t make Thanos an “adopted son” of A’lars, but just the mutated biological son of him. Like, they can make those externals able to reproduce and maybe the celestials did that as an experiment, but the results led them to stop producing eternals that could reproduce. Just seems more interesting that way.
I agree with this. Perhaps the experiment is what lead to Thanos gaining the deviant mutation so the celestials stopped the experiment.
same... deviant gene
Mcu and comics is absolutely different, comics Thanos is savage and literally kill everyone brutaly just to please Death.
Missed eternals in theaters by one day and finally watched it yesterday. Really liked it! Was surprised it got bad reviews compared to other MCU flicks. I am a sucker for space and high concepts tho
I do feel that, literally watched just now the major downside this movie has it has so many concepts but so less time.
Well it's a little more sci-fi than a traditional marvel movie so I think that's the main reason for the bad reviews. The audience was expecting a story that follows the "Marvel" formula but got something else. It caught people off guard.
same
@@BlueSparkzVideos I still don't think that it didn't follow Marvel formula. It was no worse or better than many MCU movies and there are plenty of MUC movies that are worse than Eternal.
It got bad reviews because it is veeeerrryyyy slow moving, unfocused and could not figure out how to get us the audience how to care about its characters. So many times in that movie some on screen character would be crying but us in the audience did not feel a thing because we just didn't have any investment in them. And for every 5 minutes of action there was 20 minutes of slow, boring dialog and exposition. All through the movie when I saw it in the theater people were looking at their watches or even checking their phone notifications.
I still think that Thanos' logic is flawed regardless of the drive (purpose). Killing half of all life only delays the "inevitable". Instead why not just destroy all Celestial seeds?
Could be why they refer to him as the mad Titan.
Yeah that is a given. I think the point is that there will always be those who agree with it regardless of the level of insanity or justification.
Because the events set in motion was the only way for Kang to control the timeline 😂 any other smarter variant of thanos would’ve been zapped out of existence
Killing the celestial seeds still only delays the inevitable. Celestials will just create more. The real solution is to kill the celestials (seeds included). If the issue is overpopulation, then we wouldn't need new life on new worlds anyways.
Maybe the stones lack the power.
Thanos theory!
I thought it felt odd that the 'Alpha' deviant was developing a lot of intelligence and personality, just to be cut to bits by Jolies character.
What if Thanos is actually a similar type of deviant from Titan that succeeded in absorbing all of the eternals from Titan, besides star fox who then became allied with him...
That is why he ruined the rise of them by snapping
interesting theory. Only flaw in that is why doesn't he have 6 different abilities? I don't think he ia a deviant, he is an eternal like the rest of them but because of his mutation with the deviants it is possible for him to absorb powers from other eternals. Thanos isn't shown to have any powers outside of being really strong, smart and durable.
Thena killed him because even though he understood that the Eternals had been lied to, he still held on to his hatred of them.
Brother Thanos himself is an eternal
The comic kinda says starfox would agree on certain issues with thanos ideas which kinda proves that the intentions thanos had were done in evil manner but it was the same goal as eternals…..
Who wouldn't love to bring back Thanos to the Marvel universe..
I'm game, it'll be pretty cool to see a different version of him. Like we did in the "What If" series..
Might not be that difficult as at least in the comics, he is in love with lady death. And if I remember right, she doesn't like him. So if she banishes him from her realm, he would be immortal. Thus returned to the living. But who knows if they would use that.
he better has his helicopter if he does >:D
The only reason I'm watching at this point if for his return!! The messiah of marvel
I found the eternals made Thanos seem like he did all life an actual good thing because it slowed down the emergence of any celestial. It focused on Earth obviously but we would have to know it was happening all across the universe. There is also talk that Thanos had deviant in him(causing the purple and weird looks) Not sure if that was reason why he did what he did. I'm enjoying the deep thoughts that marvel is now putting into the movies.
I mean he is part deviant in the comics so...
It's kinda like Galactus in Earth X, in which Galactus consumes planets not simply to sate his hunger but to prevent new Celestials from being born.
Not all the planets have seed in them so this plot is stupid!
6:44 Nooooooo !! Eternals didn't had timeline parallel to SpiderMan nwh or Shangchi or 2024 ending !
It actually had a timeline of May-June 2024 according to Wikipedia and even Disney plus Hotstar of India shows Eternals before Shangchi in the timeline order section of Marvel.
@@sureshmakwana8709 Sooooo Eternals happened before Shang-Chi but nobody talked about the fact that a giant celestial was hovering over earth? (Arishem). Not to mention the giant celestial that is not sticking out of the ocean lol.
Amma need them to release that eternals documentary they managed to capture lmao
In essence thanos delayed the emergence and actually helped out many planets that were habitants to celestials ready to be born. Arishem the judges main purpose in the comics is to judge planets life forms after a certain amount of time, and if he likes what he sees he allows them to keep existing, if he doesn’t like what he sees he destroys that planet and solar system and restarts it again, cycle after a cycle
a la Rick & Morty "SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT" floating space heads lmao love it.
I’ll k
If the Red Skull refers to Gomorra’s and Thanos‘ “metaphorical father” rather than biological father, what about who he says Black Widow’s father is? Why didn’t he say Alexie?
Although I agree that it is a continuity error, Black Widow really only spent time with Alexei during their covert mission in the US. So maybe it doesn't count cause it's not enough. Also another reason why the Black Widow just doesn't work
I mean he wasn't really a father to her. They spent a handful of years together but he never really cared for her like an actual daughter. Hence why he left right away after they returned to Russia.
Alexei was the adoptive parent/ guardian of nat
@@Oibble and her real father she didnt even know his name..... so this explanation is void, cause alexie more of a father than the one she never seen.......
BS. This is just retconning Thanos' mission. He made it very clear that culling half the population was about scarcity of resources to support life, not about reducing life to delay the Emergence. If it was about the Emergence, he would have just snapped the growing Celestials away, not half the population.
Don't worry, it's not canon, wasn't included. Thanos' intentions were as stated in infinity war.
There was mention in the movie that a byproduct of the snap was delaying the emergence but it wasn't intentional
@@randomdaveUK it is canon, deal with it
You're assuming the Infinity Stones can effect a Celestial in the MCU... Celestials were around BEFORE the Big Bang... BEFORE the Stones' creation. I would surmise that the Gauntlet would do squat against the likes of Areshem.
@@donaldwiggins9890 If a few Eternals can kill a Celestial I don't think the Infinity Stones would have much trouble.
@@brandonreed09 It may not work. It's maybe like killing an elephant with a pistol
That’s actually answers a lot of our questions
I like the idea that Thanos knew about the emergence. But if he did, why didn't he tell anyone? Even Gamora who he supposedly was comfortable enough around to talk about his plans, he never mentioned to her about the emergence. At least that's what I assume from her calling him insane which suggests he never gave her a proper good reason. Idk it's interesting and I refuse to accept any plot-holes lol
I'd imagine itd have something to do with Thanos knowing that hed have to also explain that theres literally a 50% chance of the person hes explaining the process to dying, and also he wasnt expecting that hed have to kill his only loved one to attain the soul stone
My guess is that
If thanos wanted to stop the emergence, he for sure would've loved Titan a lot... So it would be very tragic for him, making it harder for him to tell anyone. That is a weaker reason but he also probably expect that no one would believe him. Or knowing about the emergence might cause an existential crisis knowing that you're life is pointless as you are just some sort of a charger for these celestials and will be killed afterwards.
Because it needed the strongest will and something to do with destiny i assume
I agree with you because Thanos wanted to destroy earth and build a new one because of the avengers reversing the snap, he had one mission of getting done with half of the population.. Then go for retirement, he can't be an internal
@@2thumms487 well he told Gamora about his plans to wipe out half the universe by snapping his fingers, he just never seemed to tell them about the emergence
But Titan wasn't destroyed by an emergence. They fought ON Titan.... with Thanos even mentioning how beautiful the planet once was. It still ended due to overpopulation and lack of resources. They may have stopped the emergence and that led to the planet's destruction further down the line, but it wasn't due to a Celestial since the planet was still there... just uninhabited.
I like the theory that titan was destroyed by a multiverse war
the celestials don't completely destroy the planet, only break out of the crust killing all life. Titan had it's axis changed by 18 degrees, and its gravity was completely messed up. Something that an emergence could cause. Overpopulation and lack of resources don't change the axis of a planet
@@Aj-py8en they literally state that the planets the celestials are born from get destroyed. They even showed a planet getting destroyed from the birth of a celestial in the eternals movie. Even the director said she was planning on having the celestial in earth birthed which would've caused the earth to explode in the original ending. Titan is also smaller than earth so s celestial birthing from titan should've obliterated the damn thing way more easily than earth. Thanos statement made it sound like a war happened on titan because of lack of resources and overpopulation which could've caused the planets to get all f'd up the way it did considering the fact that titan was more advanced than earth so the weaponry they used against each other could've thrown the planet off balance.
@@Aj-py8en the movie inferred that the planets blew up (3:47), but they'll definitely need a better explanation like yours if they want to bring Titan into it.
@@calebstephan2083 The matter could still be gravitated back together over time
This makes Thanos actually look like the good guy... I mean, what's the point of Celestials creating life and allowing it to develop just so they accumulate energy to support the emergence of a new celestial? Makes them sound like selfish assholes, like their existence and expansion is the only thing that matters.
But thats how all life works. Think about all the food you eat every day
But don’t they create life in the universe at the cost of one planet
When she signed "We haven't heard from any of them." she meant Sersi, Phastos, and Kingo because she's looking at the Earth. They don't know that Arishem took them to The World Forge to study their memories.
obviously this, but 90% here will never get this even if you force feed it with a spoon ;)
“Perfectly balanced as all things should be!” -The Mad Titan
Woah woah stole my whole flow
Not so mad anymore ^^
@@SIowpoke *Thano's spaceship enters the Pokemon world*
Bro I hadn't watched this channel in like 6-7 years. Couldn't find it for a long time. Happy to see you are still cranking the vids out.
What i would really like to see as a show/series... is a history of each Infinity Stones... who has held them before, what happened to them... we know that the Celestial, Esson the Searcher had the Power Stone at one point.... and that Vormyr is in the heart of "Celestial Space".
Isn't a planet supposed to be completely destroyed in order for a Celestrial to be born? However in Infinity War, we see Titan is damaged but still exists. It looks more like an aftermath of constant global wars than a result of an emergence.
The dude said in this fucking video the celestial was stopped by the destruction of Titan...... it couldn't be birthed if the population was dead.
@@nocte1988 at least he was smarter than you to understand the video 😂
Thanos is the only Eternal born through physically intercourse.
With Tiamut dead and frozen I'm wondering how they're going to explain that in future movies. Great work again as always Charlie
Most likely use it as a landmark or something
I was thinking what a waste turning it to stone. Atleast turn it into gold or vibranium … something useful to humanity
She didn't freeze them; rather she converted them into icy mountains.
I mean changed into another kind of substance.
If they even bring it up at all, they'll probably just have an off-hand comment about it
@@choppaa4204 🤣🤣
All this time, Thanos has been trying to bring balance to every planet he travelled to in the universe but to make things easier he wanted the 'Infinity Stones' to do so because he knew what was coming. He tried to explain himself but clearly he didn't come out with the whole truth because it was probably too much to explain and our avengers was just too stubborn to sit down and talk things through with him. Damn! 😂
Then what's up with his plan B? Destroy everything because he's pissed? Doesn't make a lot of sense if he really was trying to help.
He wasn't trying to bring balance he made things worse I wish people would stop defending him overpopulation has been debunked.
@@DrewLSsix I will shred this universe down to its last atom and then, with the stones you've collected for me, create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost, but only what it has been given. A grateful universe.
-Thanos
@@TheUnseenPath it's fiction, get a grip
So all the planets have seeds? This is Stupid also after the snap only 100 years the population of earth will bound back. This stupid trying change Thanos origins on why he try to kill the half universe.
It would be fantastic if Thanos were to become a part of the Eternals tale in the future.
Perhaps from the point of view of an anti-hero type.
Thanos' good intentions for the snap were undermined by his dreadful method of doing it.
I'd want to see more of Thanos' moral battle as he searches for his place in the cosmos as a young man.
Agree. He was killing people, brutally in some cases. That makes him hard to root for, not knowing his ultimate reason for doing things.
Unless they use the “What If” Thanos!
Another cool video! Thanks! Two questions though:
1) If Eternals are created to blend in with the population of their host planet, why does Starfox look human. Did people on Titan look human? I assume they did, just based on the few comic book images in the video, but just checking.
2) In the alternate ending Tiamat emerged and Earth was destroyed, making the story of the Eternals belong to an alternate universe in the multiverse. But is this possibly still the case, even though Earth was not destroyed? Are there any confirmations/Easter eggs in Spiderman, Hawkeye of a giant stone titan in the Indian ocean? I don't remember. Maybe the Eternals are STILL in an alternate universe and they will crossover with the main MCU in a future movie.
maybe two types of species lived on Titan.
In the comics people on Titan looked like normal humans... Thanos looked that way because he had a Deviant Gene
In order for audiences to feel more empathetic, we usually implement human being or human-looking creatures so we won’t be really scared. That’s why most aliens from fiction are just different colored people or humanoid beings with similar limbs and body style to us.
Thought the worst that something happened to you, Charlie. Glad to see you back today.
What happened.?
@@6bannu Nothing. Charlie just took a day off.
8:25 WTF LOL
That made me spit out my coffee 😂😂😂
Thank God someone is finally breaking this movie down the way it should be. The scale of this movie is so much greater than people give it credit for and you delved right into it! thank you!
The Russos should take notes from Chloe zao
It was still pretty shit tho.
Should’ve been broken up between two movies, or been a tv series. That way, they could’ve spent actual time developing things. Much easier to do that with 8 hours of show, instead of a 2.5 hour movie.
still more plot holes than plot
I've seen every mcu movie and I just couldn't get through this one
Just watched the eternals again on Disney plus! Can't wait to see what they do with starfox
Thanos considers the entire Black order as his children
If Thanos knew about the celestials and wipe out half of the universe to stop them from emerging, why not use the stones to erase the celestials? or at least the sleeping ones
Lol celestials predate the stones, the stones don’t do shit against them
For plot convenience
@@markk_g like they are normal stones in TVA...
@@markk_g Actually in the comics, he destroyed entities , beings wayyyyyyy more powerful than a celestials
@@markk_g Ultravision can easily stomp group of Celestials if he has the stones. It took Supreme Strange to stop him, and Supreme Strange is much stronger than Celestials, heck he's probably ONLY less powerful than Living Tribunal and TOAA.
I love deleted scenes and alternate endings, but I especially love them in Marvel movies
Where did you watch them
Lol “We can call him Thinos” now that’s funny 😄
Weren't there two Celestials among the Cosmic beings who fought Thanos in Infinity Gauntlet? (Plus Galactus and Eternity) Thanos still won. So if Thanos' goal was to "save" life and the universe from the Celestials' threat, he should have targeted the Celestials directly. THe back story doesn't really make much sense to support the trillion + genocide.
I agree. I just commented that I don't like where their headed. It seems sloppy. The writers room needs to have better communication with their co workers. 😤 I'm not complaining but I don't want them to get complacent
Thanos: not genocide... It would be fair and random.
Why are you comparing the comics to the movies? They are entirely different things. MCU Thanos didn't fight the celestial, so your argument is null.
@@DrewLSsix Charlie will often talk about what happens in the comics...it is relevant. And it's most relevant, when Thanos throughout Infinity War and Endgame makes his justification one of population control for the universe. Horrible, but an interesting take. It may end up being lazy writing, if Thanos is later revealed to be doing it for "noble" purposes. What, the Infinity Stones wouldn't work on Celestials, at all? They affected Peter Quill some.
@@WolfRamAndHart The infinity stones would work against the celestials.
I disagree, I think they're going to give a way to explain Thanos being born different. Thanos has a deviant gene that needs to be explained and by natural mutation make more sense to me
The deviants need to be explained certainly and on Titan they may have evolved differently just as the one on Earth was doing during the course of the Eternals movie. Then Starfox could say they are "brothers" in that they are both children of Eternals but not actually blood related beings. The "Titans of Titan" could therefore have been a people of Deviant DNA base on some level. There's a whole host of possible options here as to how this could've happened and thus escaped "Eternals Intervention" the way described going on with Earth. This story could've been handled so much better in hindsight, and we needed to have someone like Makaari around more in the movie to help explain some of this (the super-book reader she was).
I have a theory that a'lar the father of thanos and eros is a deviant that turned into eternal.. As u already saw in the movie, that when deviant absorbed eternals power they also absorbed eternals memories. Idk how many eternals that has been absorbed by this deviant, but i assume the last eternal that had been absorbed its power is the real a'lar, but with the power of a'lar and the memories of others absorbed eternals, it makes the conciousness of the deviant has been taken over by the real a'lar and makes a'lar is an eternal in deviant's body. i think after this incident, thanos and eros are born as a twin, in which thanos is dominant with deviant gene, while eros is more into like human gene..
Harry styles: “we’re all going in one direction “
Always giving the best and simplest explanations. My brain has been frying the past couple of days with all these new deleted scenes and theories about the celestials and eternals. THANK YOU!
In the thumbnail, Thanos looks like he's about to miss a free throw.
With so many prime eternals rebelling after gaining knowledge of their true mission I find it difficult to believe that cersi (can't spell the damn name) would have done something about that when reprogramming the eternals after wiping their minds to quell any further rebellion or was that lost to him due to his own arrogance?
Its Sersi and yes j know this comment was months ago
Given that they were standing on Titan in Infinity war, it seems unlikely that Titan exploded birthing a celestial, no?
The video said that the celestial on titan failed to be birthed I think at 3:59
@Lucas Guse what theory? The theory is titan was destroyed to prevent the celestial from being born.
@@DrewLSsix 🐑 Alert 🚨
Okay I’m confused. If Thanos is an Eternal that means he was created in the “World Forge” by the Celestials right? 🤔
Edit: okay now I have my answers. Charlie pretty much covered it by the end of the video 😀
But the confusion comes when we see the baby version of him in comics since other Eternals don't have that phase
I think he has a deviant gene thus causing the purple skin an that
In the Comics... Eternals aren't androids. Thanos is an Eternal born with the Deviant gene (a Mutant). That's why he looks like Grimace, and his brother Eros looks "normal".
Thanks I’d a titan, not a eternal.
Who knew that Josh Brolin and Harry Styles would have a movie together....
How are they gonna address the Celestial coming out of the ocean like that? That blows my mind to think about the explanation they are gonna give us. Just a thought
Considering the entire thing has been turned to Marble, there ain't much they can do with it now.
Probably, the place will become the new headquarters of the Avengers.
Avengers mountain probably. Like from the comics seeing avengers tower was sold and avengers compound was destroyed by thanos
Druig.
@@hrlnmlclm druig is offworld and strange would probably sense it even if druig was on earth
They don’t get on ships and leave. They die with the planet during emergence but their consciousness moves back to the factory for memory wipe and redeployment.
the uni-mind protects them, too
Why would you need to move a consciousness back to the forge just to factory-reset it? Simpler to just start with another copy of the mind in a new body. Just another plot hole in this movie.
A Thanos origin movie based on the events described is now an EPIC MUST.
During the Avengers movie, didn’t they show pictures of a young thanos? So he grew up? How does that fit?
In the comics Thanos and Eros are third-generation Eternals. Their grandfather was the original prime Eternal of Titan. (Sersi was able to let Sprite age so if Thanos and Eros were 'engineered' by their father aging until adulthood could have been part of their base design).
@@ScionStorm1 but she only made sprite age by MAKING her human while borrowing celestial energy...... shes literally number 18 from dragonball without powers now....
I think Thanos is a Deviant...always has been
@@levondarratt787 hes a confirmed deviant- eternal hybrid in comics and mcu just neither explain the how or why cause eros is not in comics or mcu its very odd
In addition to learning the connection between Starfox & Thanos, I really want Starfox to find a way to activate Star-Lord's Celestial genes that's presumed lost because Ego's dead = I hope James Gunn makes that happen so Quill & Adam Warlock can battle the High Evolutionary (saving Rocket) in GoTG3!!!
"Space grimace with a nutsack chin" 😂
I was good up till Loki's Disney+ series when the storylines started to branch out into different parallels (hence multiverse) & that's when I realized, the 4th stage of the MCU is actually a college course to a Master degree into Marvel Madness. Now, I won't worry as much to think that hard and just go for the ride.
Why has Dr.Strange not detected this threat to Earth and the Eternals till now and if he did why didn't he interfere in the Celestial's birth
the same "reason" why no other Avengers show up in Thor 2 to help defeat Malekith (so they can $h*t out solo movies, that don't make much sense after the first teamup movie, imho, but whatever)
Same way the Ancient One couldn't sense Ninja's in the her back yard?
Am I the only one who was utterly bored to tears by the Eternals?
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I hope they don't lose the fact that thanos and starfox are the only two Natural born eternals from titan
I’ve always thought of the MCU Thanos as an anti-hero. It made him ten times more compelling than 616 Thanos. I hope we see some Thanos flashbacks in an Eternals sequel, if they make one.
@Mister Majestic it’s a matter of preference, isn’t it?
I personally would’ve been all for that darker ending because personally It would’ve been very interesting.
If it wasn’t the main Earth then yea but since it was that ending makes no sense
@@C_itsNemo yeah that's true
the MCU Earth isn't even the main Earth, that'd be the 616 Earth (the MCU multiverse is actually a sub-multiverse, a facet of the Marvel multiverse... or some $h*t like that)
"You can call him Thinos" 🤣😂 nice Charlie
That is a good explanation for Thanos being an anti hero but then it raises the questions of why the eternals didn't interfere if his goal was in DIRECT opposition of the celestials. They were told not to interfere, but wouldn't that be the exact situation they were made to intervene in?
Having too good of a time with their normal lives 😂 🎉
They only did something when Ajak got killed.
In MCU and Marvel comics( in all comics) is full with these kind of plotholes, or even worse, which is normal for comics. Welcome to the world of comic book and films, get use to it.😂😂😂
There’s also the possibility that Thanos didn’t know about the Celestial seed and eros decided not to interfere with that because it actually checks out
Starfox should call upon Slippy Toad, Peppy Hare and Falco Lombardi. Oh wrong Star Fox. 🤣
Such a gem of a movie...I am loving it more and more as the days goes by. Still don't understand the hate that it got.
same def in my top 5 marvel movies
I don't get the hate either
It's pretty terrible
@@solo_dingo Yay!! the undeserved hate was indeed pretty terrible!
@Jackal Junkie I am not saying its a perfect movie, I am saying regardless its still a good movie and the degree of hate it got is completely undeserving. Its not a bad movie in general let alone within MCU movies.
But I guess its matter of individual opinion.
So if all the eternals are robots.. and Starfox the eternal is also a robot and Thanos is his brother.. is thanos also a robot ?
this makes no sense
This video is absolutely elite!! Thank you do much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If a celestial was inside of titan, why isn’t the planet completely destroyed instead it’s just thrown of its gravitational axis?
Thank you I looked at everyone comments 🐑 smh 🤦🏾♂️
@@delmarfrazier2727 there was no celestial inside of titan.
@@tmac731 of course not. Did we hear the Russo brothers say this do we hear the “god” Kevin Feige say this…… I wish these “” influencers “”stop making of this nonsense and feed it to the masses🙏🏾
@@delmarfrazier2727 facts but it’s fun to make theories
@@tmac731 if we talking fun cool 😎 but when you millions that’s clueless on the basics. It’s finna get weird!
Didn’t feel this MCU movie.. I found it lacking in character development. Boring and lack luster. The CGI was on point but other than that wasn’t worth the watch.
“for those of you who want to see the younger version of Thanos… we can call him Thinos.” lmaoo i cackled! 10:00
Actually, they could've done that ending, where the earth got destroyed, then in the post credit scene, they can reveal it was just an illusion/or a vision from Starfox. Him saying "We could prevent all this from happening..." Eternals sequel. Just a thought
That would be very risky, leaving a massive twist to a post-credit scene.
Good thought, but if that happened, the stakes of the movie would feel fake by then end. You know what I mean??
seems a little too "it was all a dream" which I think would be super annoying after watching a 2.5 hour film!
That would just leave a sour taste for viewers.
Actually, the eternals happens 7 days after the avengers snap, while far from home happens months after that, aswell as wandavision, falcon and the winter soldier, shang-chi... The eternals is the closest thing to endgame talking about the timeline, So no, no way home couldn't be happening at the same time as the emergence
Source: Trust me bro
I'd like to believe you so that all this makes sense but unfortunately Disney+ has the MCU listed in timeline order and this ain't it.
@@droosef Ajak says so, she says they have 7 days to stop the emergence from the moment the avengers bring everyone back, and far from home is set months later, with Peter still mourning his death and those memorials trailers at the high school tv
Thanos blow a big hole in Titan, in the first Avengers movie (2012). First end credit scene, time 2:15:39. Brighten or increase your contrast. That's not a random moon, its Titan with a big hole in it. More evidence. When Star Lord arrived on Titan in Avengers Infinity War time 1:21:55 he says, WTH happened to this planet? It's 8 degrees off its access, gravitational pull is all over the place. You can only guess he arrived on the other side and couldn't see that part of the planet was missing.
This is a whole lot of disjointed revisionism by the screenwriters.
You forgot that in the End Game Thanos' new plan was to wipe entire population, not just the half. He wanted to start all over again, he didn't care about the population, his sole concern was over population and over usage of resources.
Well if he wiped out the whole population that would be fine for him. It would set back the celestial's birth big time vs just half.
@@next-level-consultants you missed the theory being discussed in the video. As per the youtuber Thanos wiped half the population to save the Titan and its population by stopping emergence. Wiping entire population would also kill the purpose of saving his planet and people.
Got the point?
Also if he wanted to stop emergence to save his people, killing half of the population just on his planet would be much easier for him than wiping half the population of entire universe.
U missed the point as well, in the endgame titan is already destroyed, and he dont have reason to save titan, so when thanos changed his intention because of the stubborn avengers, it doesnt matter
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THEY SHOULD RELEASE A DIRECTORS CUT
I'm ready for starfox to meet guardians of the Galaxy ..... I'm also ready for Adam warlock and hopefully Captain marvel can meet the guardians as well...... I never doubt Kevin feige some things are kind of weak to me but overall he's getting and A Plus on this storytelling I have faith that the next installment of Star Fox and pip will be absolutely on time and phenomenal
and Nova.
Tired of Captain Marvel. Ready for Quasar(the original). And Richard Ryder- Nova Prime of course.
Adam Warlock and Pip is the usual combo
If Starfox is a Prime Eternal like Ajak and you say Prime Eternals are "crazy powerful", how come Ajak got killed by the Deviants so easy? We never even got to see what powers Ajak really has other than her healing powers...
well considering ikirus fed ajak to a group of deviants, which is a scene in the movie it would completely explain how ajak was killed by a deviant, or did you just ignore the deviant "Kor" who absorbed ajak and gilgamesh's power?
@@MrKrispee I think your missing the question
If the externals are so powerful
Ajax tried to kill a deviant with a shotgun
It made no sense
@@MrKrispee that still doesn’t answer my question. Again, if as Charlie says that Prime Eternals are "crazy powerful", how did she get killed by the deviants so easy? If she’s "crazy powerful" why did she resort to shooting at the deviants with a shotgun? Lol
4:23 this scene makes perfect sense with the info you just gave 👏
“Perfectly balanced as all things should be.”
But if there was an emergence on Titan, there would be nothing left. Which directly conflicts with how we see Titan in Infinity War.
Nott all celestials are as gigantic as they have so far appeared in the MCU. Which could mean that while the birthing of a celestial on Titan could've caused an extinction level event, it may not have literally ripped the planted apart.
Everyone died on Titan. No intelligent life to draw energy from so the Celestial never emerged. No conflict with Infinity War.
...Unless Ego was supposed to be the Titan Celestial.
Thinking back now thanos words hit differently
My only question remains is this :
Whether or not Celestial population would have halved when Thanks snapped and brought in the blip ?
And If so , shouldn't Celestials be grateful to Avengers and Earth in general for helping to bring back half of the celestials ?
🤔
the snap doesn't kill celestials, they're far more powerful
@@smallw2003 but apparently an eternal can kill one.
something you have to ignore in order to enjoy.
Thanos's story makes sense, but he also becomes the villian after getting so angry with the Avengers, that he wants to just kill them all and he was going to enjoy it.
That's what make him fail in the End Game. He was destined to erased halft of the universe population, it was his destiny. He is inevitable as long as he follow his destiny. The moment he stray from that path, he fail.
it was implied that him wanting to reset the universe in end game was because life in the universe didn't understand that the snap was a lesson and an opportunity given to them to start anew and not make mistakes leading to their planets demise. Changing his story to be about the celestials ruins his nuance and makes him seem more shallow as a character.
@@Salmagros Actually leaks of multiverse of madness have said that Dr strange actually altered reality in the events of Endgame, Thanos was supposed to win. This is one of the many things Dr. Strange has done that is causing his universe to rapture, messing with what was "meant" to happen, now multiverse of madness is here, it's caused by more than just the events of spiderman no way home.
Thumbnail looks like Thanos is at the free throw line 😂😂
The whole all eternals are robots created directly and individually by celestials is beyond stupid and doesn't make sense since thanos was born a baby on titan smh.
Crazy Theory time.
Surtur was an eternal baby, who Odin removed from the "planet" Asgard. Asgard looked like a planet torn in half kinda-sorta, with an edge. Odin could conceivably do all that with his magic and remove the eternal from the planet and banish it to an underworld, where Surtur waited until it was his time to consume the planet and grow as big as a house, I mean, mountain.
Not the Marvel Comics version but the MCU version . . . I like that and I'm going to go with it.
Love what you did there…mountain 😂ragnarok is a fave!
"Thanos" and his nutsack chin!! love it haha!
I absolutely loved this movie, it's hands-down my favourite MCU movie by far. HOWEVER, I think they really didn't need to turn the Eternals into celestial robots. There's literally no need, and it just complicates things relating to Thanos, Starfox etc.
It messes up a lot of things IMO. They really didn't need to do all of this.
The entire movie messes up a lot of things, like the one guy who made the engine and stuff. The movie implied that he invented everything we know today, that’s a bit to much.and thanks isn’t a eternal. There also I gaint celestial head in the ocean.
Everything.
ALSO I think it’s hands-down the ABSOLUTE WORST MCU movie for the stated reasons.
@@GlitchCookin Phastos is based off Hephaestus from Greek Mythology, who they credit for inventing lots of things. So that’s not an issue.
Thanos is an Eternal, both here and in the comics.
Not sure what the story issue is with there being a Celestial in the ocean? This is a comic book movie, crazier stuff has happened.
Eternals is a very conflicting film on the MCU... like how is everyone else ignoring that?
No one said they are robots, they are created yes but they can bleed, thzy ain'y no robot
you the man charlie 😎
Thanks!