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Simple answer: He already knew the eternals would stop the emergence... While kang is a strong foe he can't possibly go up against Celestials, he might win once out of 100 times.
@@almendratlilkouatl Incorrect, here's why: Kang is a conqueror that wants to conquer other timelines, he does not erase them, nor can he anyway, he doesn't have this power. Timelines can only be pruned before the reach that "nexus" line, as stated in Loki. He who remains, a variant of Kang, is the one that weaponized Goliath to end the multiversal war... well sort of... He "ISOLATED" his universe. I say isolated in quotations because that's exactly what he said. He did not destroy the multiverse he does not have this power. He isolated his universe from others and created the TVA to prevent it from branching, calling it "the sacred timeline". At the end of loki you can see the "sacred timeline" making small branches. However it also started to connect to the OTHER universes it had been isolated from, you can see it connecting to a different branch that did not sprout from the sacred timeline at all, but instead was its own independent strain, meaning the multiverse was always there, our universe was just completely disconnected from it thanks to He who remains This was also explained by Kate Herron, director of Loki. Yes I know its confusing, I was lost at first.
To think that the Celestials are this powerful already seems unfathomable to some, but just wait until other entities like The Living Tribunal gets introduced into the MCU in the future.
@@TChalla616 eh, I'm gonna be honest I don't like intros to huge characters because it usually doesn't end well in a cenamitic perspective. If marvel does do this in the future, they really got to pull it off without any bullshit and make it top quality. For instances, you look at DC CW's Legends of Tomorrow. That didn't end well when they tried to bring in HUGE characters. I'm not against it. I think it should be really cool, but Marvel CAN NOT ruin it while doing so in anyway. You know, what I'm sayin? I hope I didn't confuse you or anything like that. I like the idea of bringing these types of characters, but if Marvel is going to do it, they got to do it right.
I would love to see Knull on his symbiotic dragon with his necrosword made from dead celestial. That would be amazing. But I think they will never make him into movie it would be similar to Thanos. But it is my favorite villain :D
@@jamesricker3997 He was born in the year 3000 or something like that. Earth literally has to survive for him to exist. Pretty sure its in his best interest to keep Earth alive.
I mean Kang is definitely weaker than celestials (and a lot of other beings i bet) in terms of raw power but living outside the timeline, manipulating it and understanding it, is a whole different thing kind of power.
Tme doesn't even matter to the Celestials, they are eternal and nigh invilnerable. Kang and The TVA doin their dumb little time shit would be like ants to them. There is very few suuuperbeingd who could hurt or kill a Celestial. knull, Franklin, Galactus, odin and a few others and then truly godlike things such as Eternity and the Living Tribunal and such are then only ones who can do anything to them
@@weshal5732 The Celestial named Eternity. Both Eternity and its counterpart Infinity are the literal manifestation of all creation. The only celestial above them is the One above All arguably the most powerful Marvel ever.
Why do people think Kang is strong enough to "stop the celestials", he is just a time traveler with advanced weapons. In the MCU, he has probably seen all the events that happened, and made changes, which is why he remains after the end of time, but he doesn't control time😒
To be honest, in comics Kang did have a weapon that could kill a celestial. Axe Jarnbjorn, weapon once forged for Thor. Two... let's say, agents of Kang who went rogue killed Celestial Gardener with it. And Thor after reclaiming the axe and doing some time-travel killed Exitar the Exterminator, celestial planet-killer. Of course, such weapon would work only against lone celestial. Against entire host of them...
I do think the simpler answer is that there isn't much Kang could do directly against the Celestials. He just has to stay out of their way and outlast them. Might be a different story for the Conqueror versions of himself since maybe they have crazy tech that could let them handle that. But the guy we saw in the Loki series? Less pure power and more just pure knowledge. Which is pretty handy in terms of controlling the timeline and managing things. Just there are limits to what Kang can do even with the TVA at his beck and call.
I don’t agree, from how they’ve been shown thus far I’d say their may be a set of them for every universe maybe and when pruning timelines the whole thing gets erased and so he essentially can just deal with celestials, maybe not head on in just a fight but with his resources he can just get rid of them. Because if even they make use of the infinity stones then it’d make sense that Kang is above them
he stopped every universe that wasn't his timeline from developing the celestials death wasn't in his timeline at that point so he doesn't interfere, pretty simple
@@demontiming3234 Celestials are higher dimensional beings, what we see in the movie was just their avatars, read some comics. There is nothing Kang could to to Celestials
Correction: Actually, Eternity wasn't the one that created the celestials. The Celestials were created by the First Firmament. The celestials were existing before Eternity. In The Ultimates comic everything was explained. The Celestials existed long before Eternity and even before Eternity's predecessor. They existed before four of Eternity's predecessors. The Celestials are the ones that led to the creation of Eternity.
people need to forget comics when talking about mcu. yall sound like broken record. always playing the same music. this is not comics, is cinema. it is different
I think the celestials are beyond time and space, literally in the comics, they existed before eternity. Eternity was created after the first firmament was broken into an infinite amount of pieces. Only few characters are on par with them. Ex: Galactus, Franklin Richards, Phoenix Force, Knull, Marques king and some are way stronger than them like the beyonder, fulcrum, oblivion, living tribunal and etc.
Eternity, made after them or not, is above them and above all beings less than Living Tribunal. Unless that's been superceded since, that was made clear in the Infinity Sagas.
God doom is the man him franklin with galactus as his herald and molecule man. Dc got doc manhattan and superboy prime batmanhattan who laughs and Wally west with doc ms power
Being a non diehard comic book fan, this names sounds dumb, why can't they just stay within the celestials. This is absurd, "the living tribunal"? Wtf that's a dumb name "Knull"? Wtf is that, whoever came up with that is a nerd "The Beyonder" a 5yr old can come up with a better name than that This keeps getting bs the longer it goes
I would definitely say Eternity has a few more natural predators than just the Cosmos, especially those space deities that exist outside the manifestation of a single universe or multiverse. Like the Living Tribunal or the Phoenix.
@@eavyeavy2864 maybe not the Living Tribunal, but the Phoenix is definitely a predator. Especially when it takes corporeal hosts. Most universal threats and actual apex predators like Galactus literally honor the Phoenix as a being of immense power that they respect. You don’t get that kind of street cred by just being neutral space entities. Phoenix is a powerhouse predator.
I just watched it for the first time the other day bc I haven't really had the urge to watch it. So it was definitely confusing in the beginning found some stability in the middle then completely went south. It's not horrible.. I just think that it needed to be a 6 or 7 episode Disney plus series. They got lucky with Guardians of the Galaxy
The reason the timeline becomes the near perfectly circular loop is due to him being alive still. Based on how the timelines work, no one ever actually leaves their timeline, it just makes a new branch. So even where he is, he is still part of his timeline, and that timeline would be represented in the timeline visual, which would become an entangled loop appearing structure as his influence goes back over new starting timelines. One could theorize his tangling like he was and crosslinking so many timeline variants would be the cause of the spontaneous timelines.
It's simple to me. The celstials simply have way to much power for him to actually stop them. Kang is still a regular dude and even if he can travel and control time can he actually do anything about the celestial creation or do anything to existing ones. I just dont see any possibility for him to really stop them.
@@dog947 Kang is more like an unkillable enemy since even if you do succeed, he overwrites his death and adapts. His focused madness and ingenuity make him nearly impossible to contend with unless you can lock him in time. Despite his incredible power, Celestials pretty much can only be hurt by other Celestials or similar energy level capabilities.
@@dog947 It's mainly the Celestials having infinite energy to do whatever they want. Limitless beings not meant to rivaled in any capacity by anyone but other Celestials. It's why every new "greatest cosmic threat ever" Marvel unveils mentions the ability to survive an encounter with the Celestials.
I love this breakdown! A point I was arguing about with someone was about how much truth He Who Remains was actually telling Loki and Sylvie, and how much he was withholding. This is a great point echoed in your video.
can you make a hierarchicy of all the beings in the mcu currently? i’m kinda confused how kang just rose to power and became god of the mcu basically and how he is more powerful than the celestials
I think he just outlived them. He took himself out of the cycle, outside of time. For all their power, the Celestials exist within time and would eventually be subject to entropy and the heat death of the universe.
Marvel has the capability to actually give us something good. They’re one of the few companies who can still blow us away with a movie, shut us up, and take our money happily. With how complex all these story lines are becoming, we need this clarity more than ever. The actors themselves need to read the comics they’re portraying like it’s also the script, because it is.
Curious to see how they advance the plot. If Areshem judges the Earth worthy, what happens to the Eternals he took with him? Do they keep their memories? Get to go back? Get mind wiped and repurposed?
I see it going a few ways. If he deems it unworthy, they could have Thor team up with the Eternals to fight the celestials which would lead to knowing the truth about Thors birth mother. This happened in the comics
I’m going to guess that he will judge them unworthy and the Eternals will expose his secret plot to use them to kill his rival Tiamut. The other Celestials will stop him from destroying Earth and punish him accordingly except he will escape their judgement and they’ll have to bring in Galactus to take him down.
I mean. Kang was never THAT powerful in the comics/source material as to stand up to the Celestials. You're assuming here that he actually had as much control as he claims, when in reality, he was just focused on other *Kangs* not happening. That doesn't really affect the rest of the universe at all, and wouldn't involve the Celestials. After all, the only reason he went after Loki was because Loki was affecting Earth's timeline directly and he was a known and (to an extent) manageable enemy. Celestials and many other cosmic beings would just obliterate him.
Technically him and the TVA were obliterating celestials regularly if you take into account that he was pruning all of these timelines and they just ended up getting eaten by Alioth.
@@ekanastone That is assuming that's really what was happening. Essentially you are trusting the bad guy to be telling the truth, instead of embellishing it to serve his purpose.
Kang don't have the power to deal with the celestials so i think that the celestials are just above all that bc there is no way kang can beat à celestial he never got this power in the comics
Just a minor correction on the astrophysics part. Our sun (Sol) total lifespan is around 10 billion years so it has about 5 billion years left. And as a side note on that, it will get hotter as it ages so Earth has about 1 billion years of being able to sustain life left before all the water boils away.
And if you want perspective on how insignificant we are. Modern Humans have only been around for maybe, maybe 1 million years and that's being forgiving. But also I million years is nothing compared to billions of years, We have alot of time left.
@@unclerico1106 just read a article that the earth core is cooling faster then expected! Sadly our planet will be die before our sun expands to the point it starts covering every planet in our solar system! 😬
@@TrigunV4S Yeah, but they originally thought that the sun burning out in 5 billion years would happen before the Earth’s core cooled. It was thought it could take tens of billions of years or even up to 91 billion years. As long as it doesn’t happen too much in the next billion years, or won’t matter to humanity or other life on Earth. Also, one billion years is when water itself begins to boil off of Earth. By that time humans will need to be off Earth. I read that perhaps up that point humans and life might survive in certain pockets or lines around the globe, but it seems to me that humans need to be getting off Earth in the next 500 million years or so. As was said earlier, all versions of humanity have only been on Earth for about 2.3 million years or so, and Homo Sapiens maybe 40k years. I think whatever we do, millions of years will be more than enough time to do it in, or we really weren’t meant to survive.
In Loki it's explained that everything in the universe gets "deleted" when it's moved into the future. So technically Kang did stop the celestials. But only in the timelines that were deleted. What I would like to see is how Doctor Strange deals with a TVA deletion lol. Another implication is no matter what, Kangs existence means earths celestial is always stopped because he lives far into the future and obviously that can't happen if the celestial hatches.
as the tiamunt came from the core of the earth, so the plates of the earths should have moved which eventually leads to crashing of continents but in movie it was shown like taimut came from layer of the earth which was close to earth.
They definitely need to explore the effects of tiamut coming out the earth like tsunamis, earthquakes because I know it caused disasters in near by countries. He was to big to not effect near by continents. What continents you think were effected?
I hope at the start of black panther 2, wakanda is providing aid to the countries effected by tiamunts emergence. This could connect with the rumors of Namor being introduced in black panther 2.
Also, even though there are individual sub Eternities that embody a single universe, you forgot to mention that there’s a multiversal iteration of Eternity made from the sum total of all the countless Eternities.
As strong as you imagine the Celestials, Galactus is there to feed on them, a level far above them only occupied by forces such as Phoenix, maybe the Living Tribunal although that is disputable, and in turn not on the level nor is anything of the One Above All, hence the name, or just Stan Lee.
Plus Knull, Odin, Franklin, Beyonders..there is actually quite a few really but none of these little TVA and Kangs and shit even stand a chance against Celestials LOL
Lol as powerful as Odin is, I wouldn’t place him in the league of The Beyonders or White Phoenix of the Crown or even Knull. The aforementioned are cosmic entities that live beyond a single firmament of a universe. They’re multiversal entities, and in the case of The Beyonders and Phoenix, omniversal. Odin is a product of a single universe, across multiverses.
Galactus is there to feed on them while they’re still growing. Once born, galactus stands no chance against a celestial. Tiamat was stronger than Galactus in the comics. Galactus would fare well against lesser Celestials but he’s no match for Arishem.
The Celestials are operating on a much grander scale than Kang, as long as he doesn’t interfere with their main mission in universal expansion they just ignore him. Don’t forget that the Celestials FAR predate the Big Bang in that they existed since the time of the First Firmament, and that after rebelling against him and defeating the Aspirants, they splintered themselves to live within each universe of the resulting 2nd cosmos... ie an Arishem exists in each universe but it’s the very same Arishem overall.
@@sensebastian9722 No, MCU is still part of the Marvel Multiverse, and in each universe there can be an infinite amount of timelines, the Celestial armor is essentially a puppet controlled by beings from the hyperspace plane, once when Earth 616 Thor connected to a celestial, He saw thousands of universes that the celestial was currently working in, and MCU is apart of the Marvel multiverse, they work for Eternity. Essentially once you kill a celestial it'll just be a minor inconvenience and they'll still be working in infinite of other universes.
I sort of do too, but at the same time I think it might not be the right time for him because Multiverse of Madness is already probably going to cover a lot of other stuff. I definitely see Kang and Loki/Sylvie playing a role in AatW Quantumania though because that one seems to be based more on alternate timelines whereas Multiverse of Madness just seems to be about multiverses in general and would probably have more to do with What If...? Season 1 than Loki Season 1 given what we know so far.
changing past don't change the present. The conquer don't need to protect the past, to keep existing, actually, keeping another timelines, would create another conquerers and the war. He keeps because he wants 1 timeline to keep going.
There was a theory I heard that the reason why immortus/he who remains didn't stop the avengers from traveling through time is because the the events from endgame (the time traveling) is the beginning of the creation of Alioth from the breaks and tears of reality and Alioth was the reason immortus/he who remains won the kang multiverse war. So if they didn't let the avengers travel through time reality wouldn't start to break, Alioth wouldn't come to be, and immotus wouldn't have something for him to win.
From Ego's existence we can see that not all celestials are like arishem so my question is if Aliath is also a celestial. Kang stated that he used him to destroy every other universe and win the multiversal war, which means that it in some capacity he beat all the other celestials.
You mean He Who Remains? Kang(s) are just the early iterations of him, hell-bent on conquering other universes. HWR is the one who created the TVA and found a way to harness the power of Alioth for his own ends.
i would've liked if they emphasized a bit more on the size of Arishem during the movie and if they showed people's perceptions and shock and reactions to him, just so the feeling can be stronger
I think Kang had things play out the way they did with the Avengers for a couple reasons. Probably the easiest or smoothies way to accomplish multiple things at once. Take Thanos off the board and occupied with a task. I'd wager Kang could have approached Strange in one of his "14 billion" + visions of the future and just told Strange what to do and why. Strange is very much about keeping the multiverse clean and by themselves. He, once, protected the Time Stone and protect the universe.
If he can let Thanos get the infinity stones and orchestrate the whole thing with the avengers why couldn't he just stop Thanos from being born or something idt he has that much control
@@jeffphisher3801 Or it's just more we don't yet know as to why it might have needed to play out that way. Maybe not the easiest or generic just stop him from being born but what came from the ripples of Thanos actions played into Kang's favor. As the years continue and more movies come out we'll get more....or we won't. I hope we do though. I'd love more of an origin/history of Thanos.
Kang the Conqueror won't actually show up in a movie until Ant-Man 3. But they'll probably be some teasers and easter eggs for him in Doctor Strange 2.
I'm sure Legion isn't cannon to the MCU but he spoke about multiple branches on season 3 episode 6, it was cool to know that marvel had the multiverse thought out back then. 😉
@@KelticTim MCU movies & Disney + shows don't treat even these Marvel Television shows which were supposed to be Canon properly, Now even outside MCU properties are canon
@@KelticTim Essentially none of Marvel Television properties are canon, or atleast not canon to Main Timeline/Universe, and in case of DD & Kingpin, I'd say they are reboot not Netflix version
When I think of kang or he who remains...I think of a chessboard...the people in the mcu or the comics are basically chess pieces while kang is the one moving those pieces...while he might not be strong enough to face cosmic threats he can make a scenario where the right mix of characters can face the said threats... His limits really are the same as that of a chess player How far can his plays go?...Universal?...multiversal? It all depends on kang himself
I wonder if we’ll gonna see a Kang The Conqueror variant first before we see him officially in Ant-Man and The Wasp Quantummania , which would be pretty crazy, but probably we’l get like Easter eggs in multiverse of madness
So if Kang created the path and the timeline is already projected, does that mean Dr. Strange can only see the end of the timeline? meaning he could only see the future with his time stone (which he did in Infinity War) in this timeline? So when he said he saw only 1 way for Tony Stark to snap, it means that that was the end of the timeline.
What if he didn’t intervene because he knew the Eternals would stop the birth of the celestial on earth. So there wasn’t a reason for the tva to be involved
That's my thought as well. His mere existence is proof that the Eternals would always succeed in stopping the Emergence, otherwise Kang would ever have been born. It's the same reason the Celestials won't destroy the earth or humanity.
I honestly think Kang would probably try to stop the Celestials from the emergence if the Eternals did not successfully stop Tiatum from destroying where he's supposed to be born and become He Who Remains.
I would've mention this could've been a different version of earth (another timeline) but then the Eternals named dropped Roger's and the Avengers (along with Thanos). Then again, this still could be another timeline, since there are variants of the beings.
But to say Kang assisting eternals with preventing and nullifying the emergence of Tiamut for HWR's existence would make for a good cataclysmic war in the MCU.
@@jfyne03 yeah agreed. I'm just saying that HWR will do everything he can to be born again in the cycle of the sacred timeline. But everything's possible now since there's no sacred timeline.
I’ve always understood it as Kang would not exist without the events of the MCU past, present, and to the 31st century on Earth, so he did not involve himself in any of those specific events as to not diverge the timelines where he is born. What the Avengers did was supposed to happen, as it was just a blip of an event that lead to Kangs birth. Changing any of these events may lead to timelines where he will never exist. I also think this is how in the Avengers movies (if they still do Kang Dynasty) will defeat Kang. They will change events to prevent his birth, and I think what Rhodie said about killing Thanos as a baby in Endgame, was really just foreshadowing on how they’ll ultimately defeat Kang.
@peaceful man gods in marvel are in charge or control something... ego was neither...ego was not a God or god ... ego didn't seem to know for sure. ..a marvel God would know ...ancient Celestial type ; yes a Celestial; no....but he was was ancient. And I am not we won't see ego again
Good point about the sun still having a good amount of life time left on it, but I think they could find an easy way to mend a workaround into the story somewhere.
3:11 According to the VFX supervisor of Loki, this is the Collector’s ship, which previously appeared in Avengers: Infinity War. 8:51-9:05 I’m really confused by the change in sound quality that happens at this point.
I've always been hyped up about the celestials since they got teased in Ragnarok & Guardians of the Galaxy. Aside from the propaganda and a bit messy plot build ups of Eternals, I can't wait for more of Celestials.
But what's crazy if the Eternals didn't stop the emergence And it did happen earth would of been destroyed and Nathaniel Richards couldn't ever be born in the future.
For some reason I seriously want them to start crossing over between franchises and in the end all these beings combine back into the one conscience they split from in this reality, or are simply his Herald's and their defeat summons him: Unicron, the Chaos Bringer. That'd be kinda cool, IMO, though maybe I should watch less Transformers Armada.
What would be so cool is if kangs variants were in each movie and new series. Like each new movie Kangs variants were the villain. They would beat them until they reach the final crazy version of Kang. Then all the avengers and what not have to help
IMO it'd be even more awesome if this universe eventually connects to other franchises and Galactus and some others are in fact Herald's/Agent's of Unicron or The Abyss or something.
@@jaijoerik6233 The celestials cant be pruned and they are aware of the multiverse, the armor is a puppet and they come from the Hyperspace plane, Comic Thor connected to a celestial and saw thousands of universes that the celestial was operating in, Universes, Like comic universe, mcu, etc not these rip off timeline universes
@@tradersendeavors The TVA had pruned the Living Tribunal who is more powerful than the Celestials. Also the MCU and and comics are different they operate by completely different rules and lore.
I mean all of this stuff is just your opinion assuming that the MCU will follow the comics verbatim. As far as we know, what Arishem said was how it happened.
@@Agent-ej1qg yeah but bro, lets not get comics involved with the mcu. It’s much more different in the mcu, if only we got more of odin it would be lit
Emergency awesome is always spot on with his videos, however, he misunderstands time travel/ altering in the mcu. Kang can’t affect anything that has already happened in the mcu. He is from the future. All that would happen is that he would create a new future. Everything that’s already happened happens no matter what he does. He can only control the timelines that are growing, eliminating them because they haven’t happened yet.
Many people havent grasped the concept of time manipulation in MCU so far. Kang didnt manipulate all time and not all powerful. He created the TVA that sits in a pocket dimension (similiar to the one where Kang council is held). These dimensions are outside time. So Kang going to different part of a single universe and killing someone doesnt make him powerful than celestials. Remember he harnesees Alioth to maintain the timelines. Branching(creation of new timeline not universe) is prevented by the time bomb which actually just transports all the affected contents to the dimension where Alioth lives.
Didn't the first firmament/cosmos create the celestials and the aspirants to worship it? If I remember correctly, the celestials were the original deviants and went against their creator/ original purpose to explore life. Something tells me if they do a variation of this story, then galactus indeed is their recompense and I'm here for it.
I love the MCU's concept of the universe but it's not really backed up with current knowledge of cosmology. And that's fine, it's fictional and makes an interesting plot device. But bringing actual scientific facts to the mix makes the whole scheme look messy. For example, heat death refers to the universe expanding indefinitely and chilling out so much that there's no thermodynamic activity. The heat death explained in the video is really something that is called the Big Crunch. And in order for the Big Crunch (or heat death in the video) to occur, the Sun doesn't have to run out of fuel. So theoretically, it's not given that the universe has 10 billion years of time left just because the Sun has the fuel for that time.
Last thing I read is that scientists now believe we are in the last stage of the universe because of dark matter. Based on what they stated, we could have as little as six billion years left. Of course, that all sounds super frightening, but even one billion years is 1,000 million years, and oldest record of humanity is maybe 2.3 million years. Essentially, even if humans could get two billion years (a tremendous amount for any species), that is so much time we would be cosmic entities ourselves and probably outside of space/time. We could just watch another universe be born.
Well, now I have to wonder if Ego was some kind of rogue Celestial. What would have happened to Tiamut if Ego had succeeded with his plan? Was his overall plot to replace the Celestials with himself?
No. Actually the celestials created ego as an experiment. Galactus goes after planets that have the celestial seeds on them. What galactus doesn't do is go after organic things. Just the planets with seeds. What the celestials are trying to do is evolve. So they created ego and studied him so they could fix any issues they may have seen. I bet if ego did succeed tiamut would have been an organic celestial instead of a mechanical one.
Simple answer, If kang´s origin is at a future point on earth, Thanos or celestial acts do not affect him as of now as it is history to him, he knows the outcome. His main concern is with nexus events that may lead to a new kang variant. Well that was his main issue until now, because there are more of him now, and the 1 running the TVA now wants more realities. which means Thanos or celestial acts we see affect only 1 reality, we dont know how it was resolved in another.
I don’t see how kang could beat a celestial…doesn’t he just time travel and have super badass tech?…I just don’t see how that could ever top the celestials powers
That's the least of it, he who remains for all we know has been at peace and boredom for a timeless years He hasn't really explored military potential since he has total control. The TVA is just the police but there is no army in the universe above it Think of what his army would look like But on the whole celestials are too important to wipe out They build and maintain the universes
I like the comics better personally, haven't seen the movie yet but as I understand it regarding Galactus, he was the passenger to the energy that remained after the previous universe died. He and that energy exploded into the universe currently in the comics I have. Galan of Taa took Billions of years to become Galactus thru a special incubation chamber he made. The galaxies began populating and then Galactus was forced from his chamber by a civilization from the planet he crashed on. (SPOILER- the Watchers must watch every Celestials egg/planet as a punishment because they didn't kill Galactus when he was transforming) Galactus has 2 purposes. 1- to limit how many Celestials can occupy the universe by eating the planets the eggs are in, (they destroyed 1 universe by overpopulation). 2- to be the remaining energy left after our universe dies that starts the next big bangs universal beginning. He was created in the last universe as humanoid and road that energy beings death to begin ours. He was destined as Galactus to fight the Celestials growth. They are not good guys as they deenergized Tiamut (the most powerful Celestial) and sunk him into they earth because they broke the rules about destroying earth as they were supposed too but chose not to. They silenced Tiamut before he could tell The One Above All. BTW a special sword can chop off a Celestials head (Nowwhere) so they can die.
I don't get the hate this movie got. I loved it!! It was so much deeper than that cookie cutter formulaic MCU movie. This deserves way better reviews than No Way Home, which is just every neckbeard and simp's wet nostalgia dream
LMAO... I love how you try to lift up eternals as some kind of special movie.. when it is the exact same marvel neck beard simp trash puts out all the time... The movie is trash because it's marvel and Disney milking the simp fan boys for every penny they can get and you lemmings line up to do it
Celestiales and eternals have the same job just like robots doing what their creator programmed them to. Celestials don’t know what’s what they are told what is and what isn’t. Great video Charlie
The first phermament created the celestials who rebelled against it and those loyal to him and when they killed it the first multiverse was born and what was left of it was made into eternity
Kang sits outside of Eternity. The multiverse consist of multiple eternities. Eternity is the embodiment of one timeline. That means each timeline has its own eternity. Since Kang can see those timelines and can interact with them, he must sit outside.
From 05:05 ti 06:09 - if he allows the cleistials to enternals to humans evolve then so he can become what he is then. that means in the person from the 31st century (time frame) how he know he he need to make celeistials ?
One of the best things about dude is that he never takes credit for himself when he achieves something he always respect us the audience he is teams he is profile in all off his video be congratulat ourselves this achievement more tomo 💕💔🥰🥰🥰💔💕
Each kang variant have some of the greatest powers in the universe and some of them is knowledge and precision. Knowledge to evolve and last long than others and precision to intervene when and where and when you shouldn't.
Does that mean that Kang is technically like a father to all of the Eternity's? Do these other cosmic beings beyond eternity exist at the end of time with he who remains? I get that the celestials die, but at the end of the sacred timeline has eternity died as well? If it still exists would that make it the longest living and largest eternity of all?
In MCU, changing the past, does not changes the future, as seen in end game. So I think Kang does not need the celestials for being the he who remains....
This doesn't even really need to be a question - Kang's only concern, because it has the most significant impact on everything that exist across infinite universes, is to ensure that the multiversal war doesn't happen. The snap or the Eternals are absolutely nothing by contrast to the impact of the multiversal war.
actually, I think that's exactly what he wants. If you remember, he kept taunting Sylvie in an attempt to get her to kill him so he could start the multiverse war, in which he would win since he's like the God of the multiverse.
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Kang was probably gone by the time the celestials were on earth .
Most likely Kang The Conqueror was gone out of reality when the Celestials popped up on Earth
The place where you show a side shot in which " He Who Remains " stay looks like a side shot of what's in this video of Eternity!!🧐🤔
Homie Kang made them do it.
Kang knows it all
Ego’s story is fascinating in that, instead of growing into a giant living being that would burst out of the planet, he bonded with it and became it.
Yeah and it makes sense could also mean there are different types of celestials
I never thought about it like that
He’s not a celestial. That’s only in the movies.
So this means, he who only remain gonna 'dust out' coz earth's celestial didn't born right?
Ego isn't a celestial he's just ego the living planet. In the comics he isn't a celestial
Simple answer: He already knew the eternals would stop the emergence... While kang is a strong foe he can't possibly go up against Celestials, he might win once out of 100 times.
Winning thousand times is good but winning one time is called unique
i mean there are practically an infinite amount of emergences with an equal amount of eternals right?
@@almendratlilkouatl Incorrect, here's why: Kang is a conqueror that wants to conquer other timelines, he does not erase them, nor can he anyway, he doesn't have this power. Timelines can only be pruned before the reach that "nexus" line, as stated in Loki. He who remains, a variant of Kang, is the one that weaponized Goliath to end the multiversal war... well sort of... He "ISOLATED" his universe. I say isolated in quotations because that's exactly what he said. He did not destroy the multiverse he does not have this power. He isolated his universe from others and created the TVA to prevent it from branching, calling it "the sacred timeline". At the end of loki you can see the "sacred timeline" making small branches. However it also started to connect to the OTHER universes it had been isolated from, you can see it connecting to a different branch that did not sprout from the sacred timeline at all, but instead was its own independent strain, meaning the multiverse was always there, our universe was just completely disconnected from it thanks to He who remains
This was also explained by Kate Herron, director of Loki. Yes I know its confusing, I was lost at first.
@@Unknowndeformity2227 Yup Kang is a really cool Villain! I'm not downplaying him at all, look at what he can achieve with just his brain.
@@lol-ot4pn Yep! All throughout the main MCU Universe & the multiverse.
To think that the Celestials are this powerful already seems unfathomable to some, but just wait until other entities like The Living Tribunal gets introduced into the MCU in the future.
Ohhhh boy one above all too
Wait until they introduce The Beyonder, or The One Above All!
@@TChalla616 Who would you like to see cast as The Beyonder? I think Keanu Reeves would be awesome XD
@@TChalla616 eh, I'm gonna be honest I don't like intros to huge characters because it usually doesn't end well in a cenamitic perspective. If marvel does do this in the future, they really got to pull it off without any bullshit and make it top quality. For instances, you look at DC CW's Legends of Tomorrow. That didn't end well when they tried to bring in HUGE characters. I'm not against it. I think it should be really cool, but Marvel CAN NOT ruin it while doing so in anyway. You know, what I'm sayin? I hope I didn't confuse you or anything like that. I like the idea of bringing these types of characters, but if Marvel is going to do it, they got to do it right.
I would love to see Knull on his symbiotic dragon with his necrosword made from dead celestial. That would be amazing. But I think they will never make him into movie it would be similar to Thanos. But it is my favorite villain :D
I think Kang knew the eternals would stop the birth of Tiamut. He has been engineering the timeline to ensure the survival of earth and its people.
Did he tho... he knew eeryhting about the time line to a certain point bf branching. After that he said it himself, he didn't know shit
He also didn't dare to get directly involved out of fear of the celestials
@@jamesricker3997 He was born in the year 3000 or something like that. Earth literally has to survive for him to exist. Pretty sure its in his best interest to keep Earth alive.
He probably knows it all because it happened before he exists. Simple logic.
@@newkingscontent8533 Not anymore , we have yet to hear the story of how he so quickly took over the TVA when hwr died
I mean Kang is definitely weaker than celestials (and a lot of other beings i bet) in terms of raw power but living outside the timeline, manipulating it and understanding it, is a whole different thing kind of power.
Tme doesn't even matter to the Celestials, they are eternal and nigh invilnerable. Kang and The TVA doin their dumb little time shit would be like ants to them. There is very few suuuperbeingd who could hurt or kill a Celestial. knull, Franklin, Galactus, odin and a few others and then truly godlike things such as Eternity and the Living Tribunal and such are then only ones who can do anything to them
Thank you! Someone who understands it.
@@87warrchild who dat
@@weshal5732 The Celestial named Eternity. Both Eternity and its counterpart Infinity are the literal manifestation of all creation. The only celestial above them is the One above All arguably the most powerful Marvel ever.
@@87warrchild eternity isn't a celestial tho, he is an abstract
Why do people think Kang is strong enough to "stop the celestials", he is just a time traveler with advanced weapons. In the MCU, he has probably seen all the events that happened, and made changes, which is why he remains after the end of time, but he doesn't control time😒
To be honest, in comics Kang did have a weapon that could kill a celestial. Axe Jarnbjorn, weapon once forged for Thor. Two... let's say, agents of Kang who went rogue killed Celestial Gardener with it. And Thor after reclaiming the axe and doing some time-travel killed Exitar the Exterminator, celestial planet-killer. Of course, such weapon would work only against lone celestial. Against entire host of them...
Agreed. Kang seems unlikely to able to affect the Celestials.
He does he prunes things out of exhistance
cellestials are at the end matter and energy
they live they can be killed
@@kailenmitchell8571 in the comics he literally had weapons that could kill Celestials you just talking
Exactly
I do think the simpler answer is that there isn't much Kang could do directly against the Celestials. He just has to stay out of their way and outlast them. Might be a different story for the Conqueror versions of himself since maybe they have crazy tech that could let them handle that. But the guy we saw in the Loki series? Less pure power and more just pure knowledge. Which is pretty handy in terms of controlling the timeline and managing things. Just there are limits to what Kang can do even with the TVA at his beck and call.
I don’t agree, from how they’ve been shown thus far I’d say their may be a set of them for every universe maybe and when pruning timelines the whole thing gets erased and so he essentially can just deal with celestials, maybe not head on in just a fight but with his resources he can just get rid of them. Because if even they make use of the infinity stones then it’d make sense that Kang is above them
@@demontiming3234 he can't deal with them, have you not seen the power they got in the comics?
The celestial are immune to mortals but let the living tribunal or eternity show up, they’ll act different
he stopped every universe that wasn't his timeline from developing
the celestials death wasn't in his timeline at that point so he doesn't interfere, pretty simple
@@demontiming3234 Celestials are higher dimensional beings, what we see in the movie was just their avatars, read some comics. There is nothing Kang could to to Celestials
Correction: Actually, Eternity wasn't the one that created the celestials. The Celestials were created by the First Firmament. The celestials were existing before Eternity. In The Ultimates comic everything was explained. The Celestials existed long before Eternity and even before Eternity's predecessor. They existed before four of Eternity's predecessors. The Celestials are the ones that led to the creation of Eternity.
Yes but remember this is a different multiverse so they are going to change a lot of the story so it isn’t predictable/subject to heavy shoulders
This is why I read comics. Why other graphic novelists should read comics. Not listen to other ppl read comics to them. Knowledge is power.🤔🤦🤷
@@Naomi-xu4hq it's not different. It's not even Canon. Mceu isn't marvel comics. The true continuity.
people need to forget comics when talking about mcu. yall sound like broken record. always playing the same music. this is not comics, is cinema. it is different
@@humphreyodiase5958 it is canon to the cinematic universe
So imagine one of the celestials like arishem breaking the sacred timeline and how akward it would be for the tva to arrest him
😂
Bruh
They would ask him to take a small form
But when he enter TVA his powers deactivate and dude become huge
👮
We're gonna need some BIGASS handcuffs y'all! 😜
Technically, all they'd have to do is reset the timeline, ultimately sending it to the void where alioth kills them all
7:52 “we got a good hot minute before they’re gonna turn the lights off”😭😭💀💀💀😭
I think the celestials are beyond time and space, literally in the comics, they existed before eternity. Eternity was created after the first firmament was broken into an infinite amount of pieces. Only few characters are on par with them. Ex: Galactus, Franklin Richards, Phoenix Force, Knull, Marques king and some are way stronger than them like the beyonder, fulcrum, oblivion, living tribunal and etc.
Eternity, made after them or not, is above them and above all beings less than Living Tribunal. Unless that's been superceded since, that was made clear in the Infinity Sagas.
True
God doom is the man him franklin with galactus as his herald and molecule man. Dc got doc manhattan and superboy prime batmanhattan who laughs and Wally west with doc ms power
The watcher?
Being a non diehard comic book fan, this names sounds dumb, why can't they just stay within the celestials. This is absurd, "the living tribunal"? Wtf that's a dumb name
"Knull"? Wtf is that, whoever came up with that is a nerd
"The Beyonder" a 5yr old can come up with a better name than that
This keeps getting bs the longer it goes
I would definitely say Eternity has a few more natural predators than just the Cosmos, especially those space deities that exist outside the manifestation of a single universe or multiverse. Like the Living Tribunal or the Phoenix.
Lt or Px aint predator
@@eavyeavy2864 maybe not the Living Tribunal, but the Phoenix is definitely a predator. Especially when it takes corporeal hosts. Most universal threats and actual apex predators like Galactus literally honor the Phoenix as a being of immense power that they respect. You don’t get that kind of street cred by just being neutral space entities. Phoenix is a powerhouse predator.
I just rewatched the Eternals and came away liking it more the 2nd time. I feel like it's one of those movies you miss a lot the first time around.
I Agree
It’s easily the worst marvel movie ever made and it’s barely even a real movie. This movie sucked ass
@@larrythecableman6963 lmfao what
@@larrythecableman6963 I agree.
I just watched it for the first time the other day bc I haven't really had the urge to watch it. So it was definitely confusing in the beginning found some stability in the middle then completely went south. It's not horrible.. I just think that it needed to be a 6 or 7 episode Disney plus series. They got lucky with Guardians of the Galaxy
It’s much more simple than that. Kang isolated HIS timeline, meaning all MCU events before the year 3100 are part of his timeline.
The reason the timeline becomes the near perfectly circular loop is due to him being alive still. Based on how the timelines work, no one ever actually leaves their timeline, it just makes a new branch. So even where he is, he is still part of his timeline, and that timeline would be represented in the timeline visual, which would become an entangled loop appearing structure as his influence goes back over new starting timelines. One could theorize his tangling like he was and crosslinking so many timeline variants would be the cause of the spontaneous timelines.
It's simple to me. The celstials simply have way to much power for him to actually stop them. Kang is still a regular dude and even if he can travel and control time can he actually do anything about the celestial creation or do anything to existing ones. I just dont see any possibility for him to really stop them.
Yeah that's my theory (until we know more). Kang can't do anything about the Celestials so he just plans around them
You're thinking of he-who-remains at the end of Loki. Kang is really powerful and might be able to stop them.
@@dog947 Kang is more like an unkillable enemy since even if you do succeed, he overwrites his death and adapts. His focused madness and ingenuity make him nearly impossible to contend with unless you can lock him in time. Despite his incredible power, Celestials pretty much can only be hurt by other Celestials or similar energy level capabilities.
@@87warrchild yea I agree but still Kang isn't just some "regular dude
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@@dog947 It's mainly the Celestials having infinite energy to do whatever they want. Limitless beings not meant to rivaled in any capacity by anyone but other Celestials. It's why every new "greatest cosmic threat ever" Marvel unveils mentions the ability to survive an encounter with the Celestials.
I love this breakdown! A point I was arguing about with someone was about how much truth He Who Remains was actually telling Loki and Sylvie, and how much he was withholding. This is a great point echoed in your video.
can you make a hierarchicy of all the beings in the mcu currently? i’m kinda confused how kang just rose to power and became god of the mcu basically and how he is more powerful than the celestials
Thanks for the video request!
Can't wait for that video
Cosmos mean universe Kang is outside the multiverse
He’s not stronger than them lol
I think he just outlived them. He took himself out of the cycle, outside of time. For all their power, the Celestials exist within time and would eventually be subject to entropy and the heat death of the universe.
Marvel has the capability to actually give us something good. They’re one of the few companies who can still blow us away with a movie, shut us up, and take our money happily. With how complex all these story lines are becoming, we need this clarity more than ever. The actors themselves need to read the comics they’re portraying like it’s also the script, because it is.
Curious to see how they advance the plot. If Areshem judges the Earth worthy, what happens to the Eternals he took with him? Do they keep their memories? Get to go back? Get mind wiped and repurposed?
I see it going a few ways. If he deems it unworthy, they could have Thor team up with the Eternals to fight the celestials which would lead to knowing the truth about Thors birth mother. This happened in the comics
I’m going to guess that he will judge them unworthy and the Eternals will expose his secret plot to use them to kill his rival Tiamut. The other Celestials will stop him from destroying Earth and punish him accordingly except he will escape their judgement and they’ll have to bring in Galactus to take him down.
@@robertsanssouci2093 BOOOO🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅 that’s not happening🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅
Earth isn't worthy
Hawkeye will save the day with a special arrow that will kill Arisham.
I don't know why everyone hated this movie but I loved it 😍
I mean. Kang was never THAT powerful in the comics/source material as to stand up to the Celestials. You're assuming here that he actually had as much control as he claims, when in reality, he was just focused on other *Kangs* not happening. That doesn't really affect the rest of the universe at all, and wouldn't involve the Celestials. After all, the only reason he went after Loki was because Loki was affecting Earth's timeline directly and he was a known and (to an extent) manageable enemy. Celestials and many other cosmic beings would just obliterate him.
Technically him and the TVA were obliterating celestials regularly if you take into account that he was pruning all of these timelines and they just ended up getting eaten by Alioth.
@@ekanastone That is assuming that's really what was happening. Essentially you are trusting the bad guy to be telling the truth, instead of embellishing it to serve his purpose.
Bruh he controls allioth the creature that was born from the tears of reality it gives him power of cosmic level
Kang don't have the power to deal with the celestials so i think that the celestials are just above all that bc there is no way kang can beat à celestial he never got this power in the comics
@@WandererD I do believe him because we saw it with our own eyes, on multiple occasions.
That was a fkn great breakdown. 👍🏽
Just a minor correction on the astrophysics part. Our sun (Sol) total lifespan is around 10 billion years so it has about 5 billion years left. And as a side note on that, it will get hotter as it ages so Earth has about 1 billion years of being able to sustain life left before all the water boils away.
And if you want perspective on how insignificant we are. Modern Humans have only been around for maybe, maybe 1 million years and that's being forgiving. But also I million years is nothing compared to billions of years, We have alot of time left.
@@unclerico1106 just read a article that the earth core is cooling faster then expected! Sadly our planet will be die before our sun expands to the point it starts covering every planet in our solar system! 😬
@@TrigunV4S time to start working on that Dyson Sphere
@@TrigunV4S Yeah, but they originally thought that the sun burning out in 5 billion years would happen before the Earth’s core cooled. It was thought it could take tens of billions of years or even up to 91 billion years. As long as it doesn’t happen too much in the next billion years, or won’t matter to humanity or other life on Earth.
Also, one billion years is when water itself begins to boil off of Earth. By that time humans will need to be off Earth. I read that perhaps up that point humans and life might survive in certain pockets or lines around the globe, but it seems to me that humans need to be getting off Earth in the next 500 million years or so. As was said earlier, all versions of humanity have only been on Earth for about 2.3 million years or so, and Homo Sapiens maybe 40k years. I think whatever we do, millions of years will be more than enough time to do it in, or we really weren’t meant to survive.
@@TrigunV4S just read an article about it, its gonna take millions of years possibly billions. We will be ok.
In Loki it's explained that everything in the universe gets "deleted" when it's moved into the future. So technically Kang did stop the celestials. But only in the timelines that were deleted.
What I would like to see is how Doctor Strange deals with a TVA deletion lol. Another implication is no matter what, Kangs existence means earths celestial is always stopped because he lives far into the future and obviously that can't happen if the celestial hatches.
as the tiamunt came from the core of the earth, so the plates of the earths should have moved which eventually leads to crashing of continents but in movie it was shown like taimut came from layer of the earth which was close to earth.
They definitely need to explore the effects of tiamut coming out the earth like tsunamis, earthquakes because I know it caused disasters in near by countries. He was to big to not effect near by continents. What continents you think were effected?
Asia
I hope at the start of black panther 2, wakanda is providing aid to the countries effected by tiamunts emergence. This could connect with the rumors of Namor being introduced in black panther 2.
@@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 South America and USA would face a big disaster
Also, even though there are individual sub Eternities that embody a single universe, you forgot to mention that there’s a multiversal iteration of Eternity made from the sum total of all the countless Eternities.
As strong as you imagine the Celestials, Galactus is there to feed on them, a level far above them only occupied by forces such as Phoenix, maybe the Living Tribunal although that is disputable, and in turn not on the level nor is anything of the One Above All, hence the name, or just Stan Lee.
Plus Knull, Odin, Franklin, Beyonders..there is actually quite a few really but none of these little TVA and Kangs and shit even stand a chance against Celestials LOL
Lol as powerful as Odin is, I wouldn’t place him in the league of The Beyonders or White Phoenix of the Crown or even Knull. The aforementioned are cosmic entities that live beyond a single firmament of a universe. They’re multiversal entities, and in the case of The Beyonders and Phoenix, omniversal. Odin is a product of a single universe, across multiverses.
Galactus is there to feed on them while they’re still growing. Once born, galactus stands no chance against a celestial. Tiamat was stronger than Galactus in the comics. Galactus would fare well against lesser Celestials but he’s no match for Arishem.
@@MrBlonde47 Good choice of words.
In the comics Galactus was shown to be stronger than a single Celestial but not 3 at once. A group of that size defeated Galactus rather easily.
The Celestials are operating on a much grander scale than Kang, as long as he doesn’t interfere with their main mission in universal expansion they just ignore him. Don’t forget that the Celestials FAR predate the Big Bang in that they existed since the time of the First Firmament, and that after rebelling against him and defeating the Aspirants, they splintered themselves to live within each universe of the resulting 2nd cosmos... ie an Arishem exists in each universe but it’s the very same Arishem overall.
So Arishem is a nexus being Celestial
only in the comics though its most likely different in the mcu
@@sensebastian9722 I actually think that this should also apply to the MCU as it’s Earth-199999 and still part of the larger Marvel Multiverse
@@sensebastian9722 No, MCU is still part of the Marvel Multiverse, and in each universe there can be an infinite amount of timelines, the Celestial armor is essentially a puppet controlled by beings from the hyperspace plane, once when Earth 616 Thor connected to a celestial, He saw thousands of universes that the celestial was currently working in, and MCU is apart of the Marvel multiverse, they work for Eternity. Essentially once you kill a celestial it'll just be a minor inconvenience and they'll still be working in infinite of other universes.
I hope we see a variant of kang in multiverse of madness
Iron lad is a younger version of Kang. Iron lad is the founder of Young Avengers
I sort of do too, but at the same time I think it might not be the right time for him because Multiverse of Madness is already probably going to cover a lot of other stuff. I definitely see Kang and Loki/Sylvie playing a role in AatW Quantumania though because that one seems to be based more on alternate timelines whereas Multiverse of Madness just seems to be about multiverses in general and would probably have more to do with What If...? Season 1 than Loki Season 1 given what we know so far.
changing past don't change the present. The conquer don't need to protect the past, to keep existing, actually, keeping another timelines, would create another conquerers and the war. He keeps because he wants 1 timeline to keep going.
There was a theory I heard that the reason why immortus/he who remains didn't stop the avengers from traveling through time is because the the events from endgame (the time traveling) is the beginning of the creation of Alioth from the breaks and tears of reality and Alioth was the reason immortus/he who remains won the kang multiverse war. So if they didn't let the avengers travel through time reality wouldn't start to break, Alioth wouldn't come to be, and immotus wouldn't have something for him to win.
How many Kangs got snapped do you reckon
From Ego's existence we can see that not all celestials are like arishem so my question is if Aliath is also a celestial. Kang stated that he used him to destroy every other universe and win the multiversal war, which means that it in some capacity he beat all the other celestials.
when you realise just how far ahead is Kang compared to rivals
You mean He Who Remains? Kang(s) are just the early iterations of him, hell-bent on conquering other universes. HWR is the one who created the TVA and found a way to harness the power of Alioth for his own ends.
i would've liked if they emphasized a bit more on the size of Arishem during the movie and if they showed people's perceptions and shock and reactions to him, just so the feeling can be stronger
I think Kang had things play out the way they did with the Avengers for a couple reasons. Probably the easiest or smoothies way to accomplish multiple things at once. Take Thanos off the board and occupied with a task. I'd wager Kang could have approached Strange in one of his "14 billion" + visions of the future and just told Strange what to do and why. Strange is very much about keeping the multiverse clean and by themselves. He, once, protected the Time Stone and protect the universe.
If he can let Thanos get the infinity stones and orchestrate the whole thing with the avengers why couldn't he just stop Thanos from being born or something idt he has that much control
And if he does it's for a way bigger reason that stopping Thanos cuz he's a threat to his rule
@@jeffphisher3801 Or it's just more we don't yet know as to why it might have needed to play out that way. Maybe not the easiest or generic just stop him from being born but what came from the ripples of Thanos actions played into Kang's favor. As the years continue and more movies come out we'll get more....or we won't. I hope we do though. I'd love more of an origin/history of Thanos.
Damn, everything goes fck up just because Avengers when Time travel to snap back half of living being back...... wtf.
this certainly brings up a bunch of possibilities for future plot points, thanks Charlie!
you answered lots of my questions. thanks.
Is Kang coming in multiverse of madness ?
That be awesome 🔥🔥
Kang the Conqueror won't actually show up in a movie until Ant-Man 3. But they'll probably be some teasers and easter eggs for him in Doctor Strange 2.
@@emergencyawesome That’d be a sweet post credits tease
@@emergencyawesome that would be a great post credits tease believe it or not
so excited for him! he's literally a human who became a Godly being with just his smarts, fav character
I swear the moment Marvel introduces Franklin Richards, I'm going to lose my shit and I'm a grown ass man. 😂
I really enjoy all the Eternals content. I feel that they didnt get a fair shake with some people
I loved it, I can’t wait to see more of Angelina give her more screen time in something. I just wonder does she still have mad weary.
Excellent recap/overview. This does give a better understanding of the overall aspect. Thanks.
I'm sure Legion isn't cannon to the MCU but he spoke about multiple branches on season 3 episode 6, it was cool to know that marvel had the multiverse thought out back then. 😉
@@KelticTim MCU movies & Disney + shows don't treat even these Marvel Television shows which were supposed to be Canon properly, Now even outside MCU properties are canon
@@KelticTim Essentially none of Marvel Television properties are canon, or atleast not canon to Main Timeline/Universe, and in case of DD & Kingpin, I'd say they are reboot not Netflix version
Feige vs Loeb & Perlmutter politics
Man I miss Legion
@@aidanmaupay it was exiting “farooq.,…Amal farooq is the shadow king!!! ofcourse!!” After majority of characters perished
When I think of kang or he who remains...I think of a chessboard...the people in the mcu or the comics are basically chess pieces while kang is the one moving those pieces...while he might not be strong enough to face cosmic threats he can make a scenario where the right mix of characters can face the said threats...
His limits really are the same as that of a chess player
How far can his plays go?...Universal?...multiversal?
It all depends on kang himself
I wonder if we’ll gonna see a Kang The Conqueror variant first before we see him officially in Ant-Man and The Wasp Quantummania , which would be pretty crazy, but probably we’l get like Easter eggs in multiverse of madness
Did you not watch Loki?
@@videochannel5183 thats not Kang The Conqueror, he is a kind variant of Kang The Conqueror. he is talking about the evil one
Isn't ironlad a varient of Kang?
@@theeyeofeyes he said he wonders if we'll see a KTC variant 1st before we see him in Ant Man 3. That's why I asked if he saw Loki
Yeah I'm pretty sure they will show him before that movie but only in the cosmic movie ones bot street level ones
“ Hot minute until they turn the lights off “ good one 😂
Now bring in the Beyonders into this and you get a much worse predator.
No one rivals Doom! NO ONE! Doom is supreme!
So if Kang created the path and the timeline is already projected, does that mean Dr. Strange can only see the end of the timeline? meaning he could only see the future with his time stone (which he did in Infinity War) in this timeline? So when he said he saw only 1 way for Tony Stark to snap, it means that that was the end of the timeline.
He maybe saw uptil Thanos's defeat, not after that
What if he didn’t intervene because he knew the Eternals would stop the birth of the celestial on earth. So there wasn’t a reason for the tva to be involved
That's my thought as well. His mere existence is proof that the Eternals would always succeed in stopping the Emergence, otherwise Kang would ever have been born. It's the same reason the Celestials won't destroy the earth or humanity.
Not that the TVA could do anything, they're just a bunch of human variants with 31st century tech.
Time travel exist
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I honestly think Kang would probably try to stop the Celestials from the emergence if the Eternals did not successfully stop Tiatum from destroying where he's supposed to be born and become He Who Remains.
I would've mention this could've been a different version of earth (another timeline) but then the Eternals named dropped Roger's and the Avengers (along with Thanos). Then again, this still could be another timeline, since there are variants of the beings.
But to say Kang assisting eternals with preventing and nullifying the emergence of Tiamut for HWR's existence would make for a good cataclysmic war in the MCU.
@@jfyne03 yeah agreed. I'm just saying that HWR will do everything he can to be born again in the cycle of the sacred timeline. But everything's possible now since there's no sacred timeline.
@@klavenqt Which would make for an amazing Multiversal war, that was teased
Glactus: stop playing WITH MY FOOD!
Celestials: no
Literally saw this the other day and thought, how does KANG fit into all of this
good video... keep up the good content
Thanks, will do!
I hope we see eternity in eternals 2
They'll cover more Marvel Cosmic Mythology in the space based movies.
Hopefully we can get another Eternals.
Galactus is the price
I’ve always understood it as Kang would not exist without the events of the MCU past, present, and to the 31st century on Earth, so he did not involve himself in any of those specific events as to not diverge the timelines where he is born. What the Avengers did was supposed to happen, as it was just a blip of an event that lead to Kangs birth. Changing any of these events may lead to timelines where he will never exist. I also think this is how in the Avengers movies (if they still do Kang Dynasty) will defeat Kang. They will change events to prevent his birth, and I think what Rhodie said about killing Thanos as a baby in Endgame, was really just foreshadowing on how they’ll ultimately defeat Kang.
I think of it like this..... Ego is a Celestial being but not a Celestial, if that makes sense
Ego said to Peter that he is small Celestial but I don't think he is a Celestial at all.
@@peacefulman2718 small g God
@@Jersey-Kenn like Odin? Odin one shots Ego for sure
@@peacefulman2718 Right thats what came to my mind too
that makes sense
@peaceful man gods in marvel are in charge or control something... ego was neither...ego was not a God or god ... ego didn't seem to know for sure. ..a marvel God would know ...ancient Celestial type ; yes a Celestial; no....but he was was ancient. And I am not we won't see ego again
Good point about the sun still having a good amount of life time left on it, but I think they could find an easy way to mend a workaround into the story somewhere.
"The ocean is so salty because people pee in it."
-Goku
3:11 According to the VFX supervisor of Loki, this is the Collector’s ship, which previously appeared in Avengers: Infinity War.
8:51-9:05 I’m really confused by the change in sound quality that happens at this point.
I've always been hyped up about the celestials since they got teased in Ragnarok & Guardians of the Galaxy.
Aside from the propaganda and a bit messy plot build ups of Eternals, I can't wait for more of Celestials.
When did they get teased in Ragnarok? I don't remember
But what's crazy if the Eternals didn't stop the emergence And it did happen earth would of been destroyed and Nathaniel Richards couldn't ever be born in the future.
I feel like Phastios just provided your brain planet with the technology needed to explain why Kang didn't stop the Celestials. Lol that was brilliant
I want to see Beyonder, Eternity, Galactus and Knull in MCU, that would be epic for sure.
For some reason I seriously want them to start crossing over between franchises and in the end all these beings combine back into the one conscience they split from in this reality, or are simply his Herald's and their defeat summons him: Unicron, the Chaos Bringer. That'd be kinda cool, IMO, though maybe I should watch less Transformers Armada.
What would be so cool is if kangs variants were in each movie and new series. Like each new movie Kangs variants were the villain. They would beat them until they reach the final crazy version of Kang. Then all the avengers and what not have to help
The living tribunals head was in the pruned area (forgot what it’s called)
If this comic universe is so thrilling, imagine how thrilling real universe will be, once we have discovered and accessed most of it
One is imaginary to make us interested
IMO it'd be even more awesome if this universe eventually connects to other franchises and Galactus and some others are in fact Herald's/Agent's of Unicron or The Abyss or something.
with the resources we currently have we won't live to see it happen only aid the future to achieve goals started from people before us
Excellent analysis 💯
Appreciate that!
If they are creating galaxies with their hands like that, do you have any idea how big the Celestials are? How do you even fight that?
Prune time baby
@@jaijoerik6233 but celestials are beyond that?
@@jaijoerik6233 The celestials cant be pruned and they are aware of the multiverse, the armor is a puppet and they come from the Hyperspace plane, Comic Thor connected to a celestial and saw thousands of universes that the celestial was operating in, Universes, Like comic universe, mcu, etc not these rip off timeline universes
@@tradersendeavors The TVA had pruned the Living Tribunal who is more powerful than the Celestials.
Also the MCU and and comics are different they operate by completely different rules and lore.
@@restored8777 The TVA had pruned the Living Tribunal so I think it’s pretty safe to assume that could also prune the Celestials.
I mean all of this stuff is just your opinion assuming that the MCU will follow the comics verbatim. As far as we know, what Arishem said was how it happened.
I love how they portrayed Arashin in The Eternals especially when he was looking a planet earth he was enormous.
Wow This is a lot of info. Thanks
Imagine odin vs the celestials. No one understands how powerful odin actually is
Galactus, well fed, against a whole lot of heroes including thanos or Odin himself. The comics already answered that.
Odin fought against the celestial and was beaten badly
@@Agent-ej1qg yeah but bro, lets not get comics involved with the mcu. It’s much more different in the mcu, if only we got more of odin it would be lit
@@coldest8982Odin is literally dead in MCU
@@thecreator9913 that’s why I said “Imagine” 🥱
that black hole scene - just gave me goosebumps
Emergency awesome is always spot on with his videos, however, he misunderstands time travel/ altering in the mcu. Kang can’t affect anything that has already happened in the mcu. He is from the future. All that would happen is that he would create a new future. Everything that’s already happened happens no matter what he does. He can only control the timelines that are growing, eliminating them because they haven’t happened yet.
Exactly I hate that ppl keep saying orchestrated all the shit up to infinity war and shit
Many people havent grasped the concept of time manipulation in MCU so far. Kang didnt manipulate all time and not all powerful. He created the TVA that sits in a pocket dimension (similiar to the one where Kang council is held). These dimensions are outside time. So Kang going to different part of a single universe and killing someone doesnt make him powerful than celestials. Remember he harnesees Alioth to maintain the timelines. Branching(creation of new timeline not universe) is prevented by the time bomb which actually just transports all the affected contents to the dimension where Alioth lives.
He who remains would be like during infinity war “pfft, Thanos had his moment”
And now we have Loki.
Didn't the first firmament/cosmos create the celestials and the aspirants to worship it? If I remember correctly, the celestials were the original deviants and went against their creator/ original purpose to explore life. Something tells me if they do a variation of this story, then galactus indeed is their recompense and I'm here for it.
Galactus is definetly coming!!!! I just hope they do silver surfer justice!!!!
I love the MCU's concept of the universe but it's not really backed up with current knowledge of cosmology. And that's fine, it's fictional and makes an interesting plot device. But bringing actual scientific facts to the mix makes the whole scheme look messy. For example, heat death refers to the universe expanding indefinitely and chilling out so much that there's no thermodynamic activity. The heat death explained in the video is really something that is called the Big Crunch. And in order for the Big Crunch (or heat death in the video) to occur, the Sun doesn't have to run out of fuel. So theoretically, it's not given that the universe has 10 billion years of time left just because the Sun has the fuel for that time.
Last thing I read is that scientists now believe we are in the last stage of the universe because of dark matter. Based on what they stated, we could have as little as six billion years left. Of course, that all sounds super frightening, but even one billion years is 1,000 million years, and oldest record of humanity is maybe 2.3 million years.
Essentially, even if humans could get two billion years (a tremendous amount for any species), that is so much time we would be cosmic entities ourselves and probably outside of space/time. We could just watch another universe be born.
Well, now I have to wonder if Ego was some kind of rogue Celestial. What would have happened to Tiamut if Ego had succeeded with his plan? Was his overall plot to replace the Celestials with himself?
No. Actually the celestials created ego as an experiment. Galactus goes after planets that have the celestial seeds on them. What galactus doesn't do is go after organic things. Just the planets with seeds. What the celestials are trying to do is evolve. So they created ego and studied him so they could fix any issues they may have seen. I bet if ego did succeed tiamut would have been an organic celestial instead of a mechanical one.
In comics ego is an elder of the universe not an celestial
@@styxx5613 bro where are getting this from????😂😂mcu changes a lot of things from the comics to the movies
I'm just imagining a tva for celestial.. "That's dude didn't give me a ticket!" In a celestial voice...
Kang truly does love himself and fears himself at the same time
Simple answer, If kang´s origin is at a future point on earth, Thanos or celestial acts do not affect him as of now as it is history to him, he knows the outcome. His main concern is with nexus events that may lead to a new kang variant. Well that was his main issue until now, because there are more of him now, and the 1 running the TVA now wants more realities. which means Thanos or celestial acts we see affect only 1 reality, we dont know how it was resolved in another.
I don’t see how kang could beat a celestial…doesn’t he just time travel and have super badass tech?…I just don’t see how that could ever top the celestials powers
That's the least of it, he who remains for all we know has been at peace and boredom for a timeless years
He hasn't really explored military potential since he has total control.
The TVA is just the police but there is no army in the universe above it
Think of what his army would look like
But on the whole celestials are too important to wipe out
They build and maintain the universes
I like the comics better personally, haven't seen the movie yet but as I understand it regarding Galactus, he was the passenger to the energy that remained after the previous universe died. He and that energy exploded into the universe currently in the comics I have. Galan of Taa took Billions of years to become Galactus thru a special incubation chamber he made. The galaxies began populating and then Galactus was forced from his chamber by a civilization from the planet he crashed on. (SPOILER- the Watchers must watch every Celestials egg/planet as a punishment because they didn't kill Galactus when he was transforming) Galactus has 2 purposes. 1- to limit how many Celestials can occupy the universe by eating the planets the eggs are in, (they destroyed 1 universe by overpopulation). 2- to be the remaining energy left after our universe dies that starts the next big bangs universal beginning. He was created in the last universe as humanoid and road that energy beings death to begin ours. He was destined as Galactus to fight the Celestials growth. They are not good guys as they deenergized Tiamut (the most powerful Celestial) and sunk him into they earth because they broke the rules about destroying earth as they were supposed too but chose not to. They silenced Tiamut before he could tell The One Above All. BTW a special sword can chop off a Celestials head (Nowwhere) so they can die.
I don't get the hate this movie got. I loved it!! It was so much deeper than that cookie cutter formulaic MCU movie. This deserves way better reviews than No Way Home, which is just every neckbeard and simp's wet nostalgia dream
LMAO... I love how you try to lift up eternals as some kind of special movie.. when it is the exact same marvel neck beard simp trash puts out all the time...
The movie is trash because it's marvel and Disney milking the simp fan boys for every penny they can get and you lemmings line up to do it
Woo! Yeah baby, It's what I've been waiting for!
We need that sequel asap come on feige bring on galactus and silver surfer
Celestiales and eternals have the same job just like robots doing what their creator programmed them to. Celestials don’t know what’s what they are told what is and what isn’t. Great video Charlie
The first phermament created the celestials who rebelled against it and those loyal to him and when they killed it the first multiverse was born and what was left of it was made into eternity
Cool! Thanks so much Charlie for this breakdown!
Kang sits outside of Eternity. The multiverse consist of multiple eternities. Eternity is the embodiment of one timeline. That means each timeline has its own eternity. Since Kang can see those timelines and can interact with them, he must sit outside.
Kang is still a mortal so he shouldn't exist outside of all the eternities. That's just stupid and silly.
From 05:05 ti 06:09 - if he allows the cleistials to enternals to humans evolve then so he can become what he is then. that means in the person from the 31st century (time frame) how he know he he need to make celeistials ?
One of the best things about dude is that he never takes credit for himself when he achieves something he always respect us the audience he is teams he is profile in all off his video be congratulat ourselves this achievement more tomo 💕💔🥰🥰🥰💔💕
Each kang variant have some of the greatest powers in the universe and some of them is knowledge and precision. Knowledge to evolve and last long than others and precision to intervene when and where and when you shouldn't.
Does that mean that Kang is technically like a father to all of the Eternity's? Do these other cosmic beings beyond eternity exist at the end of time with he who remains?
I get that the celestials die, but at the end of the sacred timeline has eternity died as well? If it still exists would that make it the longest living and largest eternity of all?
In MCU, changing the past, does not changes the future, as seen in end game. So I think Kang does not need the celestials for being the he who remains....
This doesn't even really need to be a question - Kang's only concern, because it has the most significant impact on everything that exist across infinite universes, is to ensure that the multiversal war doesn't happen. The snap or the Eternals are absolutely nothing by contrast to the impact of the multiversal war.
actually, I think that's exactly what he wants. If you remember, he kept taunting Sylvie in an attempt to get her to kill him so he could start the multiverse war, in which he would win since he's like the God of the multiverse.