Comparing the effectiveness of whey, casein, and other protein sources for driving muscle growth

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    This clip is from episode 299 ‒ Protein: muscle protein synthesis optimization, quality sources, quantity needs, and the importance of resistance training with Luc van Loon, Ph.D. Luc is an internationally renowned expert in skeletal muscle metabolism.
    In this clip, they discuss:
    - What are the differences between whey and casein protein?
    - How do the use cases differ between whey and casein?
    - How much protein can you absorb from one meal and how does protein source affect this metric?
    - And more
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  • @R900DZ
    @R900DZ Місяць тому +2

    This is really great info , thanks

  • @HalfLapJoint
    @HalfLapJoint Місяць тому +2

    I'd love to know how yeast protein powder compares to whey.

  • @seanjohal7
    @seanjohal7 Місяць тому +10

    I have been having 100 grams of protein, OMAD for years, with cycling on and off fasting. Lifestyle and work hours forced this way of eating, and it works for me. I never knew of extra benefits, and always thought I would stop this way of eating, but here I am still doing it, and getting results. I never talk about it to everyone, because not everyone thinks like us on here. We are still in a misinformation infested society. Somethings turn out for the best. Quality of protein matters, and as with everything being healthy is a expensive trip still.

    • @ilcomendante
      @ilcomendante Місяць тому

      Misinformation infested? A much better description is that people are biased, and so becomes research, information etc.

  • @Mind2MotionGolf
    @Mind2MotionGolf Місяць тому +1

    What about egg white powder?

  • @HakuCell
    @HakuCell Місяць тому +2

    6:36 no anabolic response after a vegan meal, while massive anabolic response after a ominovorous meal of equal calories and protein.

  • @user-mr9yy3yf9q
    @user-mr9yy3yf9q Місяць тому +1

    Be interested to learn of the qualities of liquid, pre-digested protein packets like Frog Fuel and Pro T.

  • @alimckay3278
    @alimckay3278 26 днів тому +1

    Is there a difference between males and females, particularly as women lose their estrogen and its effects on muscle protein synthesis?

  • @someguyusa
    @someguyusa Місяць тому +3

    You should do studies on higher amounts of protein consumption under things like OMAD. Assuming western standard meal times is an irrational bias for optimal human reaults. Humans certainly have not shared a 3x daily meal schedule across history.

    • @DILFDylF
      @DILFDylF Місяць тому +2

      It is not irrational to assume that humans eat more than one time a day. The fact that you have to specify OMAD, or any other type of low frequency eating, is self evident that it's not normal, and even if it WERE normal, it's likely not optimal for hypertrophy, so you're off base either way.

    • @Mee0tchy
      @Mee0tchy Місяць тому

      But you're making assumptions with words like "likely" and "normal". I think it would be nice to have more studies on OMAD to offer some real insight into whether it is detrimental. Up until this interview I was convinced that spreading protein intake out over the day was superior, now I'm not so sure.

  • @reallythere
    @reallythere Місяць тому

    Why is casein so bad in taste when in powder form but it's 80 percent in milk

    • @ShrinkiesWife
      @ShrinkiesWife Місяць тому +1

      There was research done on Casein by Dr Colin Campbell. IIRC, his research raised concerns re: casein. One of the other issues with casein, is that it’s a factor in what makes dairy products ‘taste good’.

    • @reallythere
      @reallythere Місяць тому

      @@ShrinkiesWife yet pure casein powder is bitter and horrid...odd

    • @JasonBuckman
      @JasonBuckman 4 дні тому

      Pure casein powder mixed in water tastes like milk to me.

  • @user-fv1jn1gw5w
    @user-fv1jn1gw5w Місяць тому +3

    Summary?

  • @Joseph1NJ
    @Joseph1NJ Місяць тому +6

    Maybe the YT algorithms are too aggressive feeding me these protein videos. But I'm starting to think protein for these YT influencers are like pizza vidoes for food tubers, they bring the clicks. There's nothing new here folks, move along, move along.

  • @amethndiaye8322
    @amethndiaye8322 Місяць тому +7

    I thought it was Jocko Willik 😂…Nice thumbnail clickbait trick

    • @Skinnyriver
      @Skinnyriver Місяць тому +1

      Ha ha that’s why I clicked

  • @JohnSmith-vy4lh
    @JohnSmith-vy4lh Місяць тому +2

    People who need to take more protein, like cancer suffers , should eat organic eggs and organic hemp seeds.

    • @quantumfx2677
      @quantumfx2677 Місяць тому +2

      So should men when they get older. I definitely had to increase protein and being in my 50s it's made a huge difference to going stronger than ever.

    • @osint6372
      @osint6372 Місяць тому

      @@quantumfx2677 hOW MANY GRAMS per day ? based on your weight.

  • @rubenmatossoto6801
    @rubenmatossoto6801 Місяць тому +3

    That study seems to have missed something important. Why jumping from 25g to 100g? Does 45g would have lower protein synthesis than 100g? 🤡

  • @osint6372
    @osint6372 Місяць тому +6

    EAT FOOD NOT POWDER...!!!!!!

    • @beardy7124
      @beardy7124 Місяць тому +16

      Ill eat whatever fits my goals.

    • @DILFDylF
      @DILFDylF Місяць тому +10

      Protein powder is literally food. Maybe if you laid off those other powders you'd be more sensible. Hey-oooooo

    • @adamz.5844
      @adamz.5844 Місяць тому

      ​@@DILFDylFDon't you tell Doctor Rockso how to live his life, B-B-B-BABY.

    • @osint6372
      @osint6372 Місяць тому +1

      @@TruthOnly24 Powders affect the liver....There is no need for powders. I eat organic food and grass fed everything......A single Turkey burger made at home is 21 Grams of protein....If I add two eggs to that I get to 33 grams....That's plenty for me....

    • @davidneal6920
      @davidneal6920 Місяць тому

      I don’t eat powder. I snort it. Awesome pre workout

  • @patricio3841
    @patricio3841 Місяць тому +5

    Adult's should not be drinking that amounts of lactose. Both costs sisyemic inflammation though out the body, especially if your an over 30 lifters.

    • @laza6141
      @laza6141 Місяць тому +2

      Cheese is king.

    • @R900DZ
      @R900DZ Місяць тому +1

      What amount?

    • @celerywarrior6493
      @celerywarrior6493 Місяць тому +16

      Exercise causes temporary systemic inflammation too. Better get rid of it.

    • @laza6141
      @laza6141 Місяць тому +16

      @@celerywarrior6493 I can't believe that some people still shit on dairy products , if you are lactose intolerant i get it , but if you're not it's a great source of protein.

    • @rickjones5399
      @rickjones5399 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@celerywarrior6493well that's where you gotta use your brain to learn where to set limits on what things