@@josep9599 you're missing the point.....we're in agreement that he's probably the most high profile youtube tennis analyst, but this clip has generated less than 20K views. That's not Gill's fault. It shows that this sport is in a sad, sad state of affairs. Almost nobody watches the US Open men's final because of NFL week 1, been that way for over 25 years....at least we can agree Gil is truly based
Petchey’s analysis is extremely in-depth, good, and unbiased. This was a really fun watch overall. And agreed on Rune. At this point the hate he gets for little things is more about reputation than him actually doing anything wrong.
As much as I have been super impressed by Rune's performance in Grand Slams this year, I don't see Alcaraz losing this match. He just has a slightly more complete game overall.
I DISAGREE WHEN HOLGAR REALLY WANTS TO WIN A MATCH LIKE BEATING NOVAK TWICE ( PARIS OPEN) AND CARLOS ( PARIS OPEN) HE HAS THE HEART AND WILL TO DO IT. NOW SAYING THAT I DON'T SEE RUNE BEATING NOVAK IN 5 SETS BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT MATCH UP. IF IT GOES 5 SETS I SEE CARLOS WINNING BUT RUNE CAN TAKE IT IN 4 SETS. I WILL WATCH THE PARIS OPEN AGAIN TO SEE HOW RUNE BEAT CARLOS IN A BIG MATCH.
Jack the problem is your trusting rune too much for 1 look what he did at RG vs Casper and 2 his body will break down and 3 that match in Bercy don’t mean anything the only thing that does is make Carlos out for revenge
Rune has done well, but his opponents(Cerundolo, ADF and Dimitrov) kind of choked as well. Holger may have powerful strokes that could give Carlos problems, but I don't see him physically having enough to get through Alcaraz considering his previous grueling matches.
I really thought Eubanks would feel the pressure of the moment, instead I see highlights of him smacking it like nick with the finese of fed. Wow. Ice in his veins.
He made so many bad shots but also really good shots as well. Dude looks like a lot of fun. Tsitsipas needs a lot of introspection. Beaten by Novak at the AO, toyed with by Carlos at the FO and now losing to a nobody at Wimbledon.
@@Whatreally123if eubanks threatens or even beats Medvedev, I think we could give Stef the benefit of the doubt of being unluckily knocked out by some real high quality tennis.
@@RaphaelBas1995given Berrettini is a better grass player than Dimitrov and Alcaraz won his match easier than Rune... I'd say alcaraz had a more impressive win
Not only are you great alone, as an analyst, you also give the right cues and space for guests to speak. I've watched many podcasts where you are the guest, and it feels like the host has just invited you to listen and they waffle on about what they feel.
I hope Sinner arrives healthy and mentally fit. He def has nerve issues and at times a lack of killer instinct. We saw what happened to Grigor today where he basically blew it, more so than Holger won it and Sinner can fall into that trap as well.
I'm a die-hard Alcaraz fan but I totally love Holger too - for his passion, his athleticism, his prodigious talent. Also I have no desire to live in a vanilla world - thank god for personality. Holger makes me laugh - he's petulant and peevish, he can be immature and a gamesman - but he is fabulous too. I'll take all of it
You nailed it! I got into this exact issue on the Wimbledon chat today! I told the people that ESPN has a hand in the scheduling of all matches. Now, do they do ALL the scheduling- no! It's a collaborative effort with the tournament director. People responded that ESPN had no say! Lol! When you spend millions of dollars for television rights- you damn straight will hv a say when matches get played!
Disagree on your statement that Rune has only shown good character in the past year. There was a big incident in late April with him erasing a contentious clay mark in a match against Fokina, which was being discussed with the umpire and referee at the time.
U make fokina seem good by sayin it alright to Call supervisor bc he dont believe in a hawkeye Call on a 40-0 Ball…… 10-15 min. of stoppage bc. Supervisor was never gonna inspect anything on the court - if anything he goes to watch slow motions - and let game go on as ruled. Madrid was disgusting against him.
Great analysis overall, but I think you guys failed to mention the effect that Eubanks’ ability to serve and volley may have on this match. Stef has shown that this is an effective strategy when executed well, and I think Chris will use this even more often than he has the rest of the tournament. This will not allow Daniil to stick with the strategy of “quantity of balls” and May be the difference maker.
Rune definitely emerging as an interesting player. First if he doesn't have physical issues I think he's emerging as a really great match player. He just seems really tenacious and winning the close matches. He also seems to be a really fluent mover and has an excellent ability to hang in the point even when he's on the defensive. Also think he;s very reliable in terms of not making unforced errors and in that regard is more in the Djokovic/ medvedev mould. Guys like Korda, Sinner or Alcaraz just seem to make more errors. Agree with Petch that Rune has great hands round the net and then his backhands is basically top three on tour. Think for Rune the forehand is the slight weakness. He hits it great in to out and down the line and can hit well inside in if he has time in his backhand corner. But feel his cross court forehand off an opponents cross court forehand is weak and maybe really weak. He can mask that by taking an opponents cross court forehand and re-directing down the line but over time think opponents are going to pick up on the fact that for the moment he's not hitting the cross court forehand with any real power or direction.
True Carlos makes a lot of errors - when he's playing sloppy. But when his A game is out - he's formidable. They're both still cooking (can't recall how Djoko was playing at 20 - I think he bloomed late if I remember right - 23?)
Love the idea for this segment but I sorta feel like you said very little about the matches. Especially Alcaraz Rune - you talked about it the longest but there wasn't much analysis/previewing. Very exciting match so I would hope for some more in-depth coverage. Can we get a prediction or something? Maybe talk a bit about their route to this point and how their grass game has looked? Big fan, just pointing it out!
Mark actually analysed pretty well how Holger won the match against Grigor, but ultimately since they don't have real weaknesses, as they are both so good, and have so many options. But Mark also talked about making sure Holger gets to the backhand, and the spot serving, and the physical element of a 5 setter. After the match there will be plenty to talk about!
Holger is growing on me. Seems to be filling an energy void that has been lacking the in the tennis world. Still I need to see more results as confirmation that he is in the long haul. Hopefully, because he would be great for the game
So excited for alcarune match it's going to be the starting point of the new great tennis rival. Matteo kind of disappointed me (same was dimi) y'day but I don't want to take any credit from Carlos. I have never seen Hubby that good. Very unlucky had to battle Novak so, relatively, early in the tournament. stef tbh looked tired and at times like he was wasn't trying as hard as he should. Also: "fix your fokin bh man what are you doing!" Eubanks is just the definition of the dark horse. Hope he can keep up and give meddy hard time.
Soooo good to hear a Comm praising and rating technique and how it can lose a player points instead of rating and crediting power. So sick of the 'how much power' talk and speed stats. Thank you Petch
"Hunting" is such a good way to describe Holger's net approach.He's proving to be a brilliant player. I've been waiting for Rune/Alcaraz for ages, more than Alcaraz/Djoko. The 2 are such equals but to my (maybe biased) mind Alcaraz is just a tad more in front.
They might be equals in the matchup but career-wise alcaraz has a massive lead. 1 masters and some masters finals for rune vs 4 across multiple surfaces for Alcaraz and a slam title/more weeks at number 1 than Medvedev. People equate them in terms of career achievements because rune has beaten Novak more I think.
Wouldn't want to argue with Mark (so fabulous to listen to him) but I think Carlitos is quite fired up to win Wimbledon - I think he's pumped and feels he can do it. There's a different confidence in him - he WANTS a rematch with Djoko and announce his arrival
If set 3 went to TB and Novak won, Hurkacz would've been gone without ever getting broken. How much has this happened in a slam? Anyway originally had Hurkacz as a contender but heard the courts were slower, although might all be negligible on grass for a serve bot. Still don't think you win serve bot your way only to a slam title.
If the matches on center court absolutely have to start at 1:30 pm and not before, with current curfew, then don't sandwich the matches. Just put either two man's matches or three woman's matches.
Novak had a good idea. He said they should warm up on a different court and come onto center court ready to play. It would cut out at least an hour and keep the court in better shape. Obviously starting earlier is better
Against top players berrettini just can't hide his backhand. I love his game. Phenomenal serve and forhend great volleys. Can play drospshots. Improved his movement but his backhand is too much of liability
This berrettini is strong in his upper body but suffers from lack of muscular mass in his legs (training legs wouldnt much as its a genetic thing). Legs matter in tennis not upper body generally speaking
Dennis that is not true what’s slowing down the matches is when it’s raining and there playing indoors the ball is slower to go through the court when the roof is open it’s a lot faster
Cricket evolved from the standard 5-day test match, to the 50-over one-day match, and now to the wildly popular 20-over format. Something should definitely be done to shorten tennis.
Tsitsipas seriously needs an introspection. Beaten by Novak at AO which was expected, toyed with by Carlos at the FO (expected byt not like that) and now losing to a debutant nobody. Jeez. And Berrettini had nothing but his serve and even that wasnt firing as good as Hurkacz or Novak's. Carlos played some amazing ahots but it was more of Berrettini losing. So many unforced errors and ahots whoch looked almost careless.
Oh man did you not see the Carlitos forehands? I mean he ripped a few of them. Some amazing gets. I didnt think Berrettini played that bad. Alcaraz was just better.
@@buzzfunk yes his forehands were darn good. Berrettini played very poorly. So many forehands, backhand winners missed. So many shots into the net. C'mon, Carlos played well no doubt but Berrettini was poor.
I agree that Novak was pretty average in those tiebreakers and a better player would have capitalized. That being said, Djokovic has proven time and time again to raise his level in the final rounds of a slam. He will get better and will likely lift the trophy.
everyone has weaknesses, i think novak has the fewest on this surface. with two days of rest he should look a lot better vs sinner than he did vs rublev
Berdych beat Federer a few times at big tournaments, including I believe 2 wins at slams. Definitely not comparable. Yup 2 wins at slams: Wimbledon 2010 and USO 2012. Pushed him to 5 sets at AO2009, beat him at Miami 2010 and Cincinnati 2011, Dubai 2013. Berdych was a real rival for Fed from 2009-2014 or so.
Someone pls explain the logic behind the curfew. I fead the reasoning but it makes no sense. I mean everywhere across the world mat hes go on late into the night but what the issue here is concern for local residents and safety of the crowd? Cant they make an excuse for 2 weeks? Or atart early atleast at 10pm? Weird.
That Djokovic vs Hurkacz match was an atrocity on the eyes. It just would not end. Every aspect of Hurkacz’s game outside the serve was terrible, but the serve was so good Djokovic couldn’t even get it in play. Meanwhile Djokovic lost all his rhythm and began spraying errors… ugh. I swear Hurkacz’s average forehand speed was 40 MPH and his depth was nonexistent. The biggest challenge Djokovic had from the baseline was having to move forwards every time Hubie hit a forehand. Glad it’s over. Alcaraz vs Berrettini was slightly underwhelming, but still a good match. Alcaraz showed he’s an elite returner on every surface and can mix up return positions with the best of them. His forehand was in its usual nuclear form, and he was playing super freely for a guy playing probably a top 5 player and top 3 server in the draw. Rune vs Dimitrov was the marquee matchup of the day. Amazing quality from both guys. This was the best I’ve seen Holger play at a slam, and the best I’ve seen Dimitrov play in best of 5 in a long time. I was upset he had to go home with a loss after the performance he turned in. Rune vs Alcaraz is gonna be incredible, and for the third round in a row, Alcaraz is involved in the most interesting match.
While the mat h was weirdly bad, Novak again showed why he is the GOAT. His fame was off and he made quite a few uncharacteristic errors. Yet he had his serve which was immaculate and one game where Hubert serve dipped, Novak immediately capitalised. Berrettini was so bad. Both weren't playing that well in the first set but Carlos warmed up and got going but it was more of Berrettini playing really badly than Carlos playing amazing. Carlos made some amazing shots but Berrettini was horrible. I expected more from him.
P are you seriously saying the best returner in the world in 2023 wasn’t very good and the only reason why he won was Matteo was garbage for the last 3 sets lol to you
@@colethomas903 you're reading my comment wrong. Never said Carlos didn't play well. Just that Berrettini hardly offered a challenge 2nd set onwards. He had nothing but his serve and made so many unforced errors. Expected a lot more from him.
Please stop with the bullhorn on Rune's "bad behaviour". He's got a temper, but aside from the Ruud incident there's really nothing to see. He clearly loves tennis and enjoys a fair fight, even with Italian or Spanish audiences acting very badly. Rune explodes onto the biggest stage with such ferocity that his opponents (and their fanboys) try everything to put him in his place. Thing is, his 'place' is at the very top...
The dead air argument isn’t perfect. These are singular athletes. They are the product. They need rest to play better. Why rush them? Baseball is a team sport, put in a fresher player.
You know the ATP tour is laughable joke if Safuilin makes a slam semi before Rublev. No wonder Novak will play till he’s 50. And keep winning. The tour is mentally weak outside of Meddy and also Carlitos can be trusted too. Sampras must be shaking his head watching this tour now. Safin and Hewitt coming up at least were tough kids that took him down. Not scared of the older guys.
Novak in 3 or 4 over Andre. Andre has to take the 1st set (as every contender). Andre's forehand versus Novak's all-around game. No contest unless Andre plays EPIC & Novak is sub-par. Sinner wins - not sure as have not watch either in Wimby-23. Meddy/Eubanks (the debutant) will be interesting. Taking Meddy in 4 or 5 unless Eubanks can be extra aggressive with low errors count in sets 3-4-5. Meddy takes set 1. Eubanks set 2. If Meddy gets up 2-0 sets, it's over. Rune has to be SUPER aggressive to have a chance. Carlos in 4 or 5 sets. So Sinner Alcaraz & Meddy/Nole. Sinner will have his chances against Alcaraz though Carlos movement & speed is superior. Meddy must take set 1 or he is in deep trouble. Thanx Mark & Gill. Cheers, Milan
@@RallyVozac Thanx Vozac for the correction! Carlos-Danil give the edge big-time to Carlos. Maybe Meddy takes a set. So Carlos in 4 unless Meddy is playing EPIC then Carlos in 5. Djoker in 4 off of Sinner. Nole always getz better after Stef & Yanik taking 2 sets off of him. Carlos/Novak final. As it should be is my prediction. Novak in 5 sets for #8/5th in a row & #24. Cheers, Milan
@@TuningintotheOne4BLN I see it hard for Alcaraz against Rune. Probably a 5 setter...Medvedev handling Eubanks without much drama and than losing to Alcaraz in 3 sets. Djokovic Rublev 3 sets of which one will go deep. Sinner might win Djoker if goat has an off day. I can also smell 24 soon in the kitchen but lets wait
Are you complaining? Djokovic probably REQUESTED back to back night matches. He likes playing at night. Stop trying to find some “anti-Novak” conspiracy in everything. This is literally favoritism towards Djokovic, the same way Nadal always asked for day session matches at RG.
@@SJ-di5zu yeah, “probably” because everyone prefers playing against a curfew - you do know that unlike the other majors, Wimbledon is the only one with a curfew…thought not. Why bother to think when you’ve made it this far in life?
I,m the only one who is afraid of Sinner losing his match?? I love Sinner but he hasn,t faced any decent player yet. And Saffiullin has nothing to lose, and Sinner i don,t think he had time to recover from his recent unexpected losses. I see him as an upset alert.
@@colethomas903 Sinner was cheated out of a set, Rublev should have won the 3rd then would have won the 4th, Eubanks felt sorry for Medvedev in the 4th. So on balance all my predictions were correct! ps the only game that surprised me was the Rublev one, Joker played better than I expected.
curfew & start at 1.30pm are nonsense! slam difference from master & the rest is 3 out of 5 sets to test players in all aspect! break a game into 2 or 3 like normal tournament due to such reasons then better remove the slam as it defeats all purposes! beside rune/alcaraz, the other 3 matches are straight forward!
I dont understand why you guys arent sincere. Carlos had an extremely easy draw (Sinner too) anf will lose almost certanly to Rune who is the first real challengue here and remember Rune always beats Carlos
Andres when Carlos easy draw faces tougher competition then sinner not playing a top 78 player til the semis when that happens for Carlos let me know carlos has had hard draws in 95% of the tournaments from IW 2022 til now
Not a fan of mark, too much of a rune fan club. Rune just has drama every single match, how you guys condone unsportsmanship behaviour, some worse than others, is beyond me
A lot of pundits like Rune, maybe because they admire his talent but I just can't get on board with it because I find his demeanour so arrogant and bratish
Gill's guests on the show often seem to be a little under-prepared, less articulate, and tending to go off on tangents or using filler phrases. In particular, here it looks like Mr. Petchey seems to be just looking down on a laptop camera in random, badly lit spot in his house haha, while Gill has a full professional setup and an appealing background. I mean thousands of people get to watch all of this for an hour... In sports, most casual fans can figure out the most obvious conclusions themselves. It may be different on Lex Friedman when guests explore a wide variety of complicated topics in-depth, but if it's about Rublev-Djokovic, got any stats we haven't heard yet? Any word from a coach or an insider if a player has the sniffles or had a bad practice or w/e? It seems only Gill (and Amy on "Three") comes up with new insights and gives a clear, concise presentation. Obviously any online personality can have their fans, and I myself follow a drunk football podcaster but the appeal will have a hard ceiling. Edit: This was a bit critical but obviously comes from a big fan of the show, so I guess that's a good opportunity to make my first contribution!
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Massive fan of Mark Petchey, great to see him on the channel!
Love this one Gill, keep it going, probably the best tennis analysis channel on youtube..
in all fairness he's probably the only tennis analyst on youtube
@@dylandrogba9723there’s many smaller channels, but not as thorough as Gill Gross.
@@dylandrogba9723I follow 4 or 5 tennis analysis channels on youtube, and I always go to Gill first
Not "probably" but for sure!
@@josep9599 you're missing the point.....we're in agreement that he's probably the most high profile youtube tennis analyst, but this clip has generated less than 20K views. That's not Gill's fault. It shows that this sport is in a sad, sad state of affairs. Almost nobody watches the US Open men's final because of NFL week 1, been that way for over 25 years....at least we can agree Gil is truly based
Nice to hear from Petch, he is definitely at his best when he dives into technical analysis.
Great to see Petch , very insightful.
Petchey’s analysis is extremely in-depth, good, and unbiased. This was a really fun watch overall. And agreed on Rune. At this point the hate he gets for little things is more about reputation than him actually doing anything wrong.
As much as I have been super impressed by Rune's performance in Grand Slams this year, I don't see Alcaraz losing this match. He just has a slightly more complete game overall.
I DISAGREE WHEN HOLGAR REALLY WANTS TO WIN A MATCH LIKE BEATING NOVAK TWICE ( PARIS OPEN) AND CARLOS ( PARIS OPEN) HE HAS THE HEART AND WILL TO DO IT. NOW SAYING THAT I DON'T SEE RUNE BEATING NOVAK IN 5 SETS BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT MATCH UP. IF IT GOES 5 SETS I SEE CARLOS WINNING BUT RUNE CAN TAKE IT IN 4 SETS. I WILL WATCH THE PARIS OPEN AGAIN TO SEE HOW RUNE BEAT CARLOS IN A BIG MATCH.
Jack the problem is your trusting rune too much for 1 look what he did at RG vs Casper and 2 his body will break down and 3 that match in Bercy don’t mean anything the only thing that does is make Carlos out for revenge
Nothing impressive...
If he can't beat ADF easily on grass either Dimitrov,so what he is doing?
Rune has done well, but his opponents(Cerundolo, ADF and Dimitrov) kind of choked as well. Holger may have powerful strokes that could give Carlos problems, but I don't see him physically having enough to get through Alcaraz considering his previous grueling matches.
Nah, Alcaraz got no game for grass
Thank you 🙏 Gill you’re the best analysis 💯agree with you keep up the great job 👏❤️🙏🇬🇧
Really enjoy Petchey's calm and measured way of analysing things, enjoyed this one Gill!
Thank you Gill, this is gold!
52:34 forgetting about the double bounce against Cerundolo
That was a complete non-issue.
@@SJ-di5zu for you, maybe not. For a lot of other fans, it was certainly an issue.
It was likely a game changer that resulted Cerundolo losing a set.
Fantastic collaboration between the two of you- love these kinds of videos man keep it up
Fantastic Gill, thanks for your top shelf content with quality guests too 👌👏
I really thought Eubanks would feel the pressure of the moment, instead I see highlights of him smacking it like nick with the finese of fed. Wow. Ice in his veins.
He made so many bad shots but also really good shots as well. Dude looks like a lot of fun. Tsitsipas needs a lot of introspection. Beaten by Novak at the AO, toyed with by Carlos at the FO and now losing to a nobody at Wimbledon.
@@Whatreally123if eubanks threatens or even beats Medvedev, I think we could give Stef the benefit of the doubt of being unluckily knocked out by some real high quality tennis.
I was impressed by Holger Rune's performance today. Wouldnt be surprised if he eliminates Alcaraz.
What about Alcaraz though? Didn’t he also have an impressive performance? (Genuinely asking, I couldn’t watch either match cause I was at work).
@@RaphaelBas1995given Berrettini is a better grass player than Dimitrov and Alcaraz won his match easier than Rune... I'd say alcaraz had a more impressive win
@@RaphaelBas1995 I wasn't able to watch Alcaraz' match. However, I just watched the highlights and he looked on fire 🔥.
It's gonna be a great match
I don't see him winning against Carlos but i see him being "pain in the ass" for Carlos and i think it's going to be a long long long match
Ordinarily, Berrittini is a better gras court player than Dimitrov, but not this year. That being said, I give Carlos the edge over Rune.
Not only are you great alone, as an analyst, you also give the right cues and space for guests to speak. I've watched many podcasts where you are the guest, and it feels like the host has just invited you to listen and they waffle on about what they feel.
Safi-U-lin, I heard that! :) Thanks for the analysis, too
I hope Sinner arrives healthy and mentally fit. He def has nerve issues and at times a lack of killer instinct. We saw what happened to Grigor today where he basically blew it, more so than Holger won it and Sinner can fall into that trap as well.
What game were you actually watching?
I'm a die-hard Alcaraz fan but I totally love Holger too - for his passion, his athleticism, his prodigious talent. Also I have no desire to live in a vanilla world - thank god for personality. Holger makes me laugh - he's petulant and peevish, he can be immature and a gamesman - but he is fabulous too. I'll take all of it
Me too I do love that boy ...way to go Rune❤😂
Why do you like Rune? He is a cheater, a homophobe and a liar.
No second chances? No space for mistakes or personal growth? Not sure I want to be a part of a world like that
Alcaraz +1.
How can you like rune when he is a cheat and dirty player, go take a serious deep look at the mirror for 10mins bro
@@rogerreverence4737 you don’t have to like him. I do. You do you
Wim scheduling is all about TV and not about on ground safety at all
You nailed it!
I got into this exact issue on the Wimbledon chat today! I told the people that ESPN has a hand in the scheduling of all matches. Now, do they do ALL the scheduling- no! It's a collaborative effort with the tournament director.
People responded that ESPN had no say! Lol! When you spend millions of dollars for television rights- you damn straight will hv a say when matches get played!
Alcaraz Vs Rune is the matchup I’m looking forward to…the other 3 I’d be shocked by any upset
It looks like that upsets are over together with the circus player Tsitsipas
Great work bringing on Petchey, Gill. Thanks.
Fascinating!
Disagree on your statement that Rune has only shown good character in the past year. There was a big incident in late April with him erasing a contentious clay mark in a match against Fokina, which was being discussed with the umpire and referee at the time.
U make fokina seem good by sayin it alright to Call supervisor bc he dont believe in a hawkeye Call on a 40-0 Ball…… 10-15 min. of stoppage bc. Supervisor was never gonna inspect anything on the court - if anything he goes to watch slow motions - and let game go on as ruled.
Madrid was disgusting against him.
@@hyphorse Actually the Hawkeye said it's out, while the foxtenn they were using said it's in. It's not for Rune to erase the mark either way.
Great analysis overall, but I think you guys failed to mention the effect that Eubanks’ ability to serve and volley may have on this match. Stef has shown that this is an effective strategy when executed well, and I think Chris will use this even more often than he has the rest of the tournament. This will not allow Daniil to stick with the strategy of “quantity of balls” and May be the difference maker.
Rune definitely emerging as an interesting player. First if he doesn't have physical issues I think he's emerging as a really great match player. He just seems really tenacious and winning the close matches. He also seems to be a really fluent mover and has an excellent ability to hang in the point even when he's on the defensive. Also think he;s very reliable in terms of not making unforced errors and in that regard is more in the Djokovic/ medvedev mould. Guys like Korda, Sinner or Alcaraz just seem to make more errors. Agree with Petch that Rune has great hands round the net and then his backhands is basically top three on tour. Think for Rune the forehand is the slight weakness. He hits it great in to out and down the line and can hit well inside in if he has time in his backhand corner. But feel his cross court forehand off an opponents cross court forehand is weak and maybe really weak. He can mask that by taking an opponents cross court forehand and re-directing down the line but over time think opponents are going to pick up on the fact that for the moment he's not hitting the cross court forehand with any real power or direction.
True Carlos makes a lot of errors - when he's playing sloppy. But when his A game is out - he's formidable. They're both still cooking (can't recall how Djoko was playing at 20 - I think he bloomed late if I remember right - 23?)
Love the idea for this segment but I sorta feel like you said very little about the matches. Especially Alcaraz Rune - you talked about it the longest but there wasn't much analysis/previewing. Very exciting match so I would hope for some more in-depth coverage. Can we get a prediction or something? Maybe talk a bit about their route to this point and how their grass game has looked? Big fan, just pointing it out!
Yes, i agree, we have been waiting so much for this Rune/Alcaraz, we need to hear more analysis, a prediction video will be top quality.
Mark actually analysed pretty well how Holger won the match against Grigor, but ultimately since they don't have real weaknesses, as they are both so good, and have so many options. But Mark also talked about making sure Holger gets to the backhand, and the spot serving, and the physical element of a 5 setter. After the match there will be plenty to talk about!
Gill predicted Alcaraz to win in 4 sets, right at the end of the video.
Holger is growing on me. Seems to be filling an energy void that has been lacking the in the tennis world.
Still I need to see more results as confirmation that he is in the long haul. Hopefully, because he would be great for the game
Not a fan of rune and never will be, he cheats and is a dirty player
Yea I hate rune
Put mark petchey's name in the title . Petchey, robbie koenig and pete odgers are the best tennis commentators currently
Mark Petchey is awesome!
Mark is at his best when he dives into technical analysis.
The chances of Rublev beating Djokovic are none to none.
😂😂😂😂😂
Yes i agree, i don,t know how they talked so much time about this Nole/Rublev match, and i was expecting more talking about Alcaraz/Rune
Yep. Even with a Djokovic injury, I'm sure the Serb would find a way through.
With Rublev's backhand ,he would have trouble to beat me..
Easy 3-0 Novak
Jon u mean 4 sets ha ha
So excited for alcarune match it's going to be the starting point of the new great tennis rival. Matteo kind of disappointed me (same was dimi) y'day but I don't want to take any credit from Carlos.
I have never seen Hubby that good. Very unlucky had to battle Novak so, relatively, early in the tournament.
stef tbh looked tired and at times like he was wasn't trying as hard as he should. Also: "fix your fokin bh man what are you doing!"
Eubanks is just the definition of the dark horse. Hope he can keep up and give meddy hard time.
Idont like late start times
That's what Novak asked to change
Josh me too but I don’t see it changing
Soooo good to hear a Comm praising and rating technique and how it can lose a player points instead of rating and crediting power. So sick of the 'how much power' talk and speed stats.
Thank you Petch
Can’t wait for Rune Alcaraz tie of the round for me .
"Hunting" is such a good way to describe Holger's net approach.He's proving to be a brilliant player. I've been waiting for Rune/Alcaraz for ages, more than Alcaraz/Djoko. The 2 are such equals but to my (maybe biased) mind Alcaraz is just a tad more in front.
They might be equals in the matchup but career-wise alcaraz has a massive lead. 1 masters and some masters finals for rune vs 4 across multiple surfaces for Alcaraz and a slam title/more weeks at number 1 than Medvedev. People equate them in terms of career achievements because rune has beaten Novak more I think.
I stand corrected, Gruskin or Petchey I don't mind 😂
Wouldn't want to argue with Mark (so fabulous to listen to him) but I think Carlitos is quite fired up to win Wimbledon - I think he's pumped and feels he can do it. There's a different confidence in him - he WANTS a rematch with Djoko and announce his arrival
Siner went to semifinals without facing a guy who is in the first 75 on ATP list. I don't think that was happened ever before on GS
If set 3 went to TB and Novak won, Hurkacz would've been gone without ever getting broken. How much has this happened in a slam?
Anyway originally had Hurkacz as a contender but heard the courts were slower, although might all be negligible on grass for a serve bot.
Still don't think you win serve bot your way only to a slam title.
SureI I shrrr I don’t think a serve bot ever wins a major
If the matches on center court absolutely have to start at 1:30 pm and not before, with current curfew, then don't sandwich the matches. Just put either two man's matches or three woman's matches.
Jimmy lol
Novak had a good idea. He said they should warm up on a different court and come onto center court ready to play. It would cut out at least an hour and keep the court in better shape. Obviously starting earlier is better
MB that 2nd part of what he said was no practice on CC til matches started on Monday
Against top players berrettini just can't hide his backhand. I love his game. Phenomenal serve and forhend great volleys. Can play drospshots. Improved his movement but his backhand is too much of liability
Pas that’s why he’s 0-10 against top 10 players in majors
This berrettini is strong in his upper body but suffers from lack of muscular mass in his legs (training legs wouldnt much as its a genetic thing).
Legs matter in tennis not upper body generally speaking
I have heard they start so late because theres a sponsor lunch. I cannot confirm, but if thats the case it is a pathetic reason.
So impressed by Carlitos returning against Matteo. Alcaraz neutralised one of the best servers on grass, wow
I felt that Jarry was more a tought match for Alcaraz than Berrettini.
@ricardlopez598 Jarry served better, check the percentages, very high on 1sts
David that’s what the best returner in 2023 does
LETS GO HULGAR RUNE!
The courts have been drastically slowed down and that is why they are talking 45 mins longer.
Dennis that is not true what’s slowing down the matches is when it’s raining and there playing indoors the ball is slower to go through the court when the roof is open it’s a lot faster
Cricket evolved from the standard 5-day test match, to the 50-over one-day match, and now to the wildly popular 20-over format. Something should definitely be done to shorten tennis.
don't watch. problem solved
Tsitsipas seriously needs an introspection. Beaten by Novak at AO which was expected, toyed with by Carlos at the FO (expected byt not like that) and now losing to a debutant nobody. Jeez.
And Berrettini had nothing but his serve and even that wasnt firing as good as Hurkacz or Novak's. Carlos played some amazing ahots but it was more of Berrettini losing. So many unforced errors and ahots whoch looked almost careless.
P Hurkacz serve is way bigger then Matteo
Oh man did you not see the Carlitos forehands? I mean he ripped a few of them. Some amazing gets. I didnt think Berrettini played that bad. Alcaraz was just better.
@@buzzfunk yes his forehands were darn good. Berrettini played very poorly. So many forehands, backhand winners missed. So many shots into the net. C'mon, Carlos played well no doubt but Berrettini was poor.
After Hurcatz's serve...Matteo's looked off.
Yes. I don't get why he won't get a coach
I disagree about not seeing any cracks in Novak's game. He has played 3 nervy tiebreaks but got away with it. That could cost him in a SF vs Sinner.
I agree that Novak was pretty average in those tiebreakers and a better player would have capitalized. That being said, Djokovic has proven time and time again to raise his level in the final rounds of a slam. He will get better and will likely lift the trophy.
True
false try again
everyone has weaknesses, i think novak has the fewest on this surface. with two days of rest he should look a lot better vs sinner than he did vs rublev
Rublev - Djokovic is like Berdych- Federer or Gasquet-Nadal. Result is given beforehand.
Berdych beat Federer a few times at big tournaments, including I believe 2 wins at slams. Definitely not comparable.
Yup 2 wins at slams: Wimbledon 2010 and USO 2012. Pushed him to 5 sets at AO2009, beat him at Miami 2010 and Cincinnati 2011, Dubai 2013. Berdych was a real rival for Fed from 2009-2014 or so.
Also, matteo is considered a servebot, not sure what bubble mark is living in
Someone pls explain the logic behind the curfew. I fead the reasoning but it makes no sense. I mean everywhere across the world mat hes go on late into the night but what the issue here is concern for local residents and safety of the crowd? Cant they make an excuse for 2 weeks? Or atart early atleast at 10pm? Weird.
P it’s because the train leave at 11.30 that’s why also due to noise
@@colethomas903the British are just very petulant people
That Djokovic vs Hurkacz match was an atrocity on the eyes. It just would not end. Every aspect of Hurkacz’s game outside the serve was terrible, but the serve was so good Djokovic couldn’t even get it in play. Meanwhile Djokovic lost all his rhythm and began spraying errors… ugh. I swear Hurkacz’s average forehand speed was 40 MPH and his depth was nonexistent. The biggest challenge Djokovic had from the baseline was having to move forwards every time Hubie hit a forehand. Glad it’s over.
Alcaraz vs Berrettini was slightly underwhelming, but still a good match. Alcaraz showed he’s an elite returner on every surface and can mix up return positions with the best of them. His forehand was in its usual nuclear form, and he was playing super freely for a guy playing probably a top 5 player and top 3 server in the draw.
Rune vs Dimitrov was the marquee matchup of the day. Amazing quality from both guys. This was the best I’ve seen Holger play at a slam, and the best I’ve seen Dimitrov play in best of 5 in a long time. I was upset he had to go home with a loss after the performance he turned in. Rune vs Alcaraz is gonna be incredible, and for the third round in a row, Alcaraz is involved in the most interesting match.
While the mat h was weirdly bad, Novak again showed why he is the GOAT. His fame was off and he made quite a few uncharacteristic errors. Yet he had his serve which was immaculate and one game where Hubert serve dipped, Novak immediately capitalised.
Berrettini was so bad. Both weren't playing that well in the first set but Carlos warmed up and got going but it was more of Berrettini playing really badly than Carlos playing amazing. Carlos made some amazing shots but Berrettini was horrible. I expected more from him.
That's just dumb
P are you seriously saying the best returner in the world in 2023 wasn’t very good and the only reason why he won was Matteo was garbage for the last 3 sets lol to you
@@colethomas903 you're reading my comment wrong. Never said Carlos didn't play well. Just that Berrettini hardly offered a challenge 2nd set onwards. He had nothing but his serve and made so many unforced errors. Expected a lot more from him.
P gotcha sorry about that well it look just like the W 2021 F one player all court game other has 2 huge weakness and gets expose
Let's go Nole 🐐❤️🔥🇷🇸
Petchey !!!!!!!!!!
Please stop with the bullhorn on Rune's "bad behaviour". He's got a temper, but aside from the Ruud incident there's really nothing to see. He clearly loves tennis and enjoys a fair fight, even with Italian or Spanish audiences acting very badly. Rune explodes onto the biggest stage with such ferocity that his opponents (and their fanboys) try everything to put him in his place. Thing is, his 'place' is at the very top...
The dead air argument isn’t perfect. These are singular athletes. They are the product. They need rest to play better. Why rush them? Baseball is a team sport, put in a fresher player.
Djoko in 4
Sinner in 4
Med in 3
Alcaraz in 5
Djokovic 3
Sinner 3
Medvedev 4
Alcaraz 4 but more likely 5
game of luck could went either way whoever wins is big news
You know the ATP tour is laughable joke if Safuilin makes a slam semi before Rublev.
No wonder Novak will play till he’s 50. And keep winning. The tour is mentally weak outside of Meddy and also Carlitos can be trusted too.
Sampras must be shaking his head watching this tour now. Safin and Hewitt coming up at least were tough kids that took him down. Not scared of the older guys.
Ajay the tour is a joke outside those top 3 in the world they just win every tournament
@@colethomas903 well said bro.
medvedev? you mean the guy who choked a 2-0 set lead vs rafa at australia?
@@bacardibum I hear ya. But cmon. He’s made 4 slam finals. Two 5 hour wars with Rafa, and beat Novak. That is way more than 99% of the tour can say.
Carlos in 3/4
Medvedev 3/4
Sinner in 3
Djokovic in 3
Rune hits less ue, so not definitely in 3
Interesting predictions! I think most if not all of them will go to 4-5
Rag so how many UE has rune done this tournament ?????
Rag I bet u when u look it up u be disappointed 😂😂😂😂😂
@@colethomas903 nothing to be disappointed, but i feel it won't be in 3 , rune did just 27 ue vs dimitrov out of 134 lost points.
Sinner gets the worlds easiest wimbledon draw EVER - sucked in he faces djokovic in the semis , sucked in!
Novak in 3 or 4 over Andre. Andre has to take the 1st set (as every contender). Andre's forehand versus Novak's all-around game. No contest unless Andre plays EPIC & Novak is sub-par. Sinner wins - not sure as have not watch either in Wimby-23. Meddy/Eubanks (the debutant) will be interesting. Taking Meddy in 4 or 5 unless Eubanks can be extra aggressive with low errors count in sets 3-4-5. Meddy takes set 1. Eubanks set 2. If Meddy gets up 2-0 sets, it's over. Rune has to be SUPER aggressive to have a chance. Carlos in 4 or 5 sets. So Sinner Alcaraz & Meddy/Nole. Sinner will have his chances against Alcaraz though Carlos movement & speed is superior. Meddy must take set 1 or he is in deep trouble. Thanx Mark & Gill. Cheers, Milan
Good analysis, but Sinner is in Djokovic's side of the draw. So you can only get Alcaraz-Medvedev and Djoko-Sinner semis...
@@RallyVozac Thanx Vozac for the correction! Carlos-Danil give the edge big-time to Carlos. Maybe Meddy takes a set. So Carlos in 4 unless Meddy is playing EPIC then Carlos in 5. Djoker in 4 off of Sinner. Nole always getz better after Stef & Yanik taking 2 sets off of him. Carlos/Novak final. As it should be is my prediction. Novak in 5 sets for #8/5th in a row & #24. Cheers, Milan
@@TuningintotheOne4BLN I see it hard for Alcaraz against Rune. Probably a 5 setter...Medvedev handling Eubanks without much drama and than losing to Alcaraz in 3 sets. Djokovic Rublev 3 sets of which one will go deep. Sinner might win Djoker if goat has an off day. I can also smell 24 soon in the kitchen but lets wait
@@TuningintotheOne4BLN Is your name Milan?
@@RallyVozac Yes. My name is Milan.
Petchey sidesteps why Novak has had back-to-back nights matches.
Sciagurrato Friday was all Wimbledon fault Sunday I have no excuse for them
Are you complaining? Djokovic probably REQUESTED back to back night matches. He likes playing at night. Stop trying to find some “anti-Novak” conspiracy in everything. This is literally favoritism towards Djokovic, the same way Nadal always asked for day session matches at RG.
SJ exactly the world is always against Novak lol didn’t ya know 😂
Yeah, I caught that as well...very PC
@@SJ-di5zu yeah, “probably” because everyone prefers playing against a curfew - you do know that unlike the other majors, Wimbledon is the only one with a curfew…thought not. Why bother to think when you’ve made it this far in life?
I,m the only one who is afraid of Sinner losing his match?? I love Sinner but he hasn,t faced any decent player yet. And Saffiullin has nothing to lose, and Sinner i don,t think he had time to recover from his recent unexpected losses. I see him as an upset alert.
Alcaraz in 3, Sinner in 3, Eubanks in 4, Rublev in 4.
Mike lol
@@colethomas903 Rublev nearly had him, 3rd set gone his way, may well have won!!
Mike it probably would have went 5 but great call on Carlos
@@colethomas903 Sinner was cheated out of a set, Rublev should have won the 3rd then would have won the 4th, Eubanks felt sorry for Medvedev in the 4th. So on balance all my predictions were correct! ps the only game that surprised me was the Rublev one, Joker played better than I expected.
Sinner will reach the final.
No
curfew & start at 1.30pm are nonsense! slam difference from master & the rest is 3 out of 5 sets to test players in all aspect! break a game into 2 or 3 like normal tournament due to such reasons then better remove the slam as it defeats all purposes! beside rune/alcaraz, the other 3 matches are straight forward!
It’s amusing that everyone just conveniently forgets USO 2021 when they declare alcaraz rune and sinner the ONLY ones who can challenge Novak. 😂😂
Yeah for real Medvedev still exists guys lol
Not on grass. Not happening.
Make lol nobody ever said this stuff u was saying at the USO 2021 rune went out R1 Carlos out in qtrs nobody was hyping Carlos til RG 2022
Unfortunately Tsitsipas best tennis 🎾 is over( my opinion) that’s very sad
Tsistipas isn't playing serious,he dating badosa on match day ..So where is focus
I dont understand why you guys arent sincere. Carlos had an extremely easy draw (Sinner too) anf will lose almost certanly to Rune who is the first real challengue here and remember Rune always beats Carlos
Andres when Carlos easy draw faces tougher competition then sinner not playing a top 78 player til the semis when that happens for Carlos let me know carlos has had hard draws in 95% of the tournaments from IW 2022 til now
Andres rune always beats Carlos u think the head to head was 20-0 by your analysis also Rune almost to ADF Carlos is way >
@@colethomas903 ADF is more talented than carlos he is just brainless
The head to head is 1-1 and the win Rune got was via a Carlos retirement.
Jacob she be quiet now
Not a fan of mark, too much of a rune fan club. Rune just has drama every single match, how you guys condone unsportsmanship behaviour, some worse than others, is beyond me
A lot of pundits like Rune, maybe because they admire his talent but I just can't get on board with it because I find his demeanour so arrogant and bratish
Thanks!
Gill's guests on the show often seem to be a little under-prepared, less articulate, and tending to go off on tangents or using filler phrases. In particular, here it looks like Mr. Petchey seems to be just looking down on a laptop camera in random, badly lit spot in his house haha, while Gill has a full professional setup and an appealing background. I mean thousands of people get to watch all of this for an hour...
In sports, most casual fans can figure out the most obvious conclusions themselves. It may be different on Lex Friedman when guests explore a wide variety of complicated topics in-depth, but if it's about Rublev-Djokovic, got any stats we haven't heard yet? Any word from a coach or an insider if a player has the sniffles or had a bad practice or w/e? It seems only Gill (and Amy on "Three") comes up with new insights and gives a clear, concise presentation.
Obviously any online personality can have their fans, and I myself follow a drunk football podcaster but the appeal will have a hard ceiling.
Edit: This was a bit critical but obviously comes from a big fan of the show, so I guess that's a good opportunity to make my first contribution!
Petchy had some great insight when talking about technique. We stress that in our program. Good to hear.
@@MBB9394 who is "we", and what "program". Is this a bot?