NBA Advanced Stats for DUMMIES
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
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Welcome back to the show, NBA basketball enthusiasts! Today, we're delving into the fascinating world of advanced statistics that often leave fans scratching their heads. In the ever-evolving landscape of basketball analytics, understanding these metrics is crucial to fully appreciate the game. So, grab your favorite beverage and join us as we break down some of the most used and perhaps misunderstood terminologies among media members.
1. Introduction to Advanced Stats: The Evolution of Basketball Analysis
The game of basketball has come a long way in terms of analysis. We've transitioned from simply watching the game to studying box scores, and now we find ourselves knee-deep in spreadsheets and complex calculations. In the current landscape, it's not uncommon to hear terms like VORP tossed around in basketball podcasts. Today, we're demystifying these stats, starting with what I believe is the most crucial advanced metric: the PIE rating.
2. PIE Rating: Unveiling Player Impact Estimate
PIE, or Player Impact Estimate, is a game-changer when it comes to assessing a player's contribution. Unlike traditional stats, PIE measures a player's impact on the entire game, not just their team's stats. We break down the complex calculation and explore examples, such as Nikola Jokic's astounding 22.4 PIE rating, making him a quarter of the game's impact. Discover why high PIE ratings often correlate with box score-filling players like Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Giannis, and Shai.
3. PER: Player Efficiency Rating Decoded
Diving into Player Efficiency Rating (PER), we explore how this metric evaluates a player's efficiency on the court, considering pace and performance against teammates. John Hollinger's PER scale provides insight into what constitutes an average, MVP-worthy, or historic season. Learn why Jokic's 32.8 PER in 2022 is hailed as the greatest season PER of all time, surpassing legends like Wilt Chamberlain.
4. Usage Rating: Deciphering Player Usage
Usage rating unveils how much a player is relied upon in a team's offensive schemes. Joel Embiid's league-leading 35.8 usage rate showcases his central role for the Sixers, emphasizing that high usage doesn't always equate to efficiency. Explore the intricacies of how usage rates define a player's offensive importance within a team.
5. Net Rating: The Team Impact Metric
Net rating, per 100 possessions, measures how many more points a team scores compared to their opponents when a player is on the court. We dissect why net rating can be team-dependent and spotlight unexpected leaders like Isaiah Joe of the OKC Thunder. Understand how individual net ratings reflect team success and player contributions.
6. True Shooting Percentage: Unveiling Shooting Efficiency
True Shooting Percentage takes a closer look at a player's shooting efficiency, considering free throws, field goals, and three-pointers. We unravel the concept by comparing players like Embiid and Curry, showcasing that a high true shooting percentage doesn't solely rely on traditional shooting percentages.
7. Per 36 Stats: Extrapolating Player Performance
Per 36 stats provide a glimpse into a player's potential if given more playing time. Discover why analysts often refer to these stats when making cases for players who shine in limited minutes, using examples like Isaiah Joe's hypothetical points per game.
8. Defensive and Offensive Rating: Balancing Act on the Court
Finally, we explore the yin and yang of basketball metrics - defensive and offensive ratings. Offensive rating calculates how many points a team would score with a player on the court for 100 possessions, while defensive rating assesses the points opponents would score in the same scenario. Shout-out to Kyle Anderson, the defensive maestro leading the league in this category.
Thank you for joining us on this deep dive into advanced basketball stats. If there are other terms you find confusing, let us know in the comments below. Like this video if you enjoyed the breakdown, and as always, be good to your mamies! - Спорт
I saw the "for DUMMIES" part and felt special🤗
just for you baby 😘
Good video corn dog man
that's me!
The fact that (some) people make it seem like TS% is an “nba nerd” stat that doesn’t give a true indication of a players efficiency is mind boggling. You’re telling me that TS% is a nerdier stat than VORP??
Id say ultimate NERD stats are WAR, VORP, RAPTOR, and Career-Arc Regression Model Estimator with Local Optimization CARMELO
Great video,and it explains a lot. Much appreciated,man! I'm wondering why "Per 36" is a thing,and not "Per 48",like the way baseball uses "per 9 innings" for pitchers,or "per 60 minutes " for goalies in hockey
They use "Per 36" because most Starters/Stars play around 36 minutes a game (in the regular season that is) so it gives a more intuitive way to compare raw box score stats
that's what I figured too.
@@Crispen30 Thanks! 👍🏽
Another beautiful video Joey, but could you run over some of the more ambiguous statistics like Win Shares (offensive and defensive) as well as VORP and maybe explain how Power Rankings aren’t a true indication of a team’s probability of winning?
Thanks! I actually have a video on VORP from about a year and a half ago if you want to check it out. (I think it's decent)
Subscribed. ❤ you sold me. Happy holidays, bro. I learned so much in 6 minutes and ive been watching basketball since like 99
Sweet! happy to help!
This is the most underrated basketball channel on youtube. Glad you found it.
@@alyoshaty8823 I just love that it's absolutely no bs
Just found your channel, I appreciate you and what you do. This is knowledge for people who love the game and its the good lords work... cause some people haven't a crispy clue as to how the game works 😂
I didn't have a crispy clue for a long time and I was always confused when I'd listen podcast. It's a lot more enjoyable when you understand terminology. thanks!
Hot take but I feel like these advanced stats will only get more popular over time, and jokic's continued dominance over most of them will make him a goat contender in the future. Love the vid ❤
yeah, for sure. I think there needs to be a stat that is able to showcase a player who is on a bad team, but has skill. so far no one has. Also thanks!
@whatslaps very very true. Its so hard for me to gauge the true quality of guys like cade cunningam or lamelo ball given the quality of their team.
I think it's time to move on from Player Efficiency Rating. From its very formula, it's heavily biased towards counting stats, which themselves are biased toward offense. Russell Westbrook in his MVP season posted record-breaking PER - eventually mandating an adjustment to the formula - while defensive stalwart Bruce Bowen was consistently rated as below-replacement. The killing blow, to me, is Dennis Rodman being viewed as slightly-below-average, when his reputation as the greatest defender of his generation was well warranted.
BPM, RPM, PIPM, and APM all have their own issues, but they at least seem to account for defensive impact a little better. It is an unfortunate reality that publicly-available defensive metrics are all misleading.
I went back and watched some of my older videos where I talked about BPM, RAPTOR, VORP and I think it just comes down to the eye test. ecspecially on defensive end. real recognize real. if you watch ball you know who's good.
@@whatslaps 100% agree. Advance stats are great tools to help us contextualize what we're seeing, and challenge our personal biases, but they shouldn't substitute actually reading the game.
Rodman was a great defender but was basically a non-factor offensively except for the offensive rebound. The 4 or so offensive rebounds a night are obviously good but if he's not making good passes nor scoring after the offensive rebound it's not THAT great right ?
Rodman could be the greatest defender ever and it still won't change the fact that he was scoring an inneficient 6 points a night for basically is whole career.
Like, Rodman being average (or close to it) in term of PER might actually confirm that the system is working properly. A 9/10 defense but 1/10 offense player is by definition average, right ?
Embiid sure followed through after this video came out. A full season of high usage with extraordinary scoring and rebounding, running all over the court, leading his team to-- (looks to the side) what?
Oh.
exactly. they should put him on ice.
Loved the old style video ❤️
It's nice because I can recycle old videos that weren't as good.
I'm going to start looking at PIE now! Thanks brochacho.
Impact is everything, baby!
The eye test seems much more efficient. Stats seem like something that can help game planning not as effective in determining the best players. Great information
yeah, you know it when you see it.
This was good thanks
np! glad you liked it.
your videos are great and the editing is too
thanks man! glad you like them!
Loved this breakdown man! Subbed 👊🏻
Sweet! glad you dug it!
Thank you for this. I never understood the offensive/rating defensive rating.
Anything for you
thanks for helping me on my high school elective class. sport statistics
you got it, brother
Damn Payton catching strays
There are no strays, cowboy
Nice video buddy!!! 💪🙌
thanks friend!
@@whatslaps buddy can you make a video on how rules are changed over the course of time in nba???
Saved you in the bookmarks
you won't regret it.
Almost a week late again, sheesh. Pie is a good one, pretty well balanced and valuable. I’ve always liked PER because of the average being 15, if you’re close to 30 you’re basically doing the work of TWO average players. Usage can be misleading, but does help to understand how much a team wants to work through a guy. Net rating is interesting, Isiah Joe being the league leader is cool for the reason why that is true. True shooting is cool too, again good balance of relative numbers in their proper context. Should Isiah be getting closer to 36 minutes? Pace consideration is good too, I like how each of these puts certain stuff into better perspective based on how they are weighing their particular data. Thank again, always love your shtuff.
I'm doing a video coming up and I realized that Embiid is actually at 34.1 per. He's having an insane season. I think it has a lot to do with those blow outs against the wizards and pistons. Isaiah Joe I think is redundant on his team. I've heard the same with giddey. Might serve them to trade him for some veteranship. Ultimately I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to that kind of stuff. Players should checking their per constantly though haha.
I'm sort of terrified that basketball is going to become baseball. I checked out for a while and they started doing trigonometry over there. I thought slugging % was advanced enough.
I'm afraid they're going to homogenize the sport, it's already getting there bc three pt shooting.
Can we not have ONE al Jefferson please? Edey?
Sidenote:
Dunno what kind of juice you have, but if you ever get the opportunity, please plant the seed in the right people that Wembanyama needs to learn and use the sky hook
I think their are advanced stats people, but the obsession isn't there like baseball. Hope it doesn't turn that way.
sidenote: I have no juice.
Not about the video but liking the shave
tune in next week for the haircut.
Thanks!
much appreciated brother. I feel seen.
What websites do you like to use to find most of your advanced stats??
I like basketball reference and nba dot com is good.
Spent the past three days going over why every stat is crap without context and why every stat is important In it’s own respect. I’ve FINALLY accepted that I am simply a fan and watch basketball because I enjoy it so the good old box score plus these advanced stats are fine for me. Seriously tho, unless you’re reeeaally really interested in every stat and/or it’s your job to know, I think peeps are good with glimpses of the advanced stats to get the general gist of what’s going on. Time and brain power is unfortunately limited for most of us 😂 Thanks to videos like this, we start to get a decent understanding. Thank you! This is a great video.
Yeah, stats are fun but don't show the whole picture. thanks for checking out the video! glad you liked it
as a thunder fan, i still want more JOE!!!!
He's the new Harden of OKC
And can you define avg
If .250 is the avg how good or bad is that actually
middle of the road. bench player
Can you do these for the mlb
I can't I don't know enough about baseball unfortunately. Jomboy makes great content though.
@@whatslaps appreciate it
But what about win shares and plus minus?
next video.
2022-23 MVP was a robbery. Jokic deserved it.
Great video
I'm still saying EMbiid, even though I'm a Jokic guy. He gave it away at the end of the season.
you mess with mac and cheese?
Not really. I'm going to keep it real with you, I haven't had a corndog since I was about 11 years old.
Who got highest PIE last year, then?
Im not at home right now, probably jokic though
I don’t understand the per 100 possessions calcul
extrapolation of stats. hypothetically if they were to play 100 possessions .
Lefraud fans will still not understand this tutorial, even though it's made for dummies.
got em! Oh wait... that's me.
I though MJ had the highest PER
I think career overall
He does in career PER, playoffs and season is nikola jokic
Hi i love your videos but could you mind speaking slower
thanks! I have another channel if you look at my featured channels. it's more podcast format and it moves a lot slower.