PRESSFIT PLUMBING FAIL or User Error?? This is REAL WORLD PLUMBING

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2023
  • Pressfit plumbing fail or was it totally my fault........ either way i got soaked, but its Real World Plumbing as always on my channel.
    in this video i start another bathroom renovation for a customer who is doing a lot of the work themselves but needed me to do the plumbing side of things
    #plumbing #fail #howto
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  • @MJTiffPlumbing
    @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +16

    Please watch this to the end to see exactly what happened👍🏼👍🏼
    And get subscribed… let’s see if this video can get us to 30k subs

    • @skunkyboy5481
      @skunkyboy5481 11 місяців тому +4

      I’ve been doing a lot of crimp recently, the way I do it, put a mark in sharpie on each fitting as you crimp it.

    • @michaelpyra7554
      @michaelpyra7554 11 місяців тому

      It's Michaels grandson I probably will subbie

    • @dougbamford1810
      @dougbamford1810 10 місяців тому

      MJ excellent videos ! I ve been using Viega press since 2009 you can feel each fitting and feel if your tool has pressed or not before turning the water back on the very first time I used the tool to install a hot water cylinder I had one joint not pressed and I was able to simply press the fitting with the water on. I ve even pressed lever valves on when the house main wouldn’t completely shut off. Undoubtedly I am crazy about making witnesses marks before pressing so I can go back over to make sure everything is fully Inserted before and after pressing the fittings. All this being said tho I do wonder sometime is it really worth it all I mean with just my truck I ve spent around $7k on the tool , jaws, and the ring adapters for pressing at tight spots or at walls and floors etc. I also have the jaws to press iron pipe from 1/2” thru 2” in the states they have pulled out of copper gas fittings but is it all worth it in the end really? In some situations definitely cutting and treading steel YES but installing or REPAIRING copper pipe it really depends. I also feel like the copper fitting manufacture are pushing the prices of solder fittings up to be closer to press since 2020. Anyhow love the vids keep ‘em coming Just some of a plumbers thoughts on a Saturday night!

    • @fabianmckenna8197
      @fabianmckenna8197 10 місяців тому +1

      Hats off to you for showing that, while not only proving you're human, but pointing out why it happened.
      Must admit that my first plumbing attempt using compression fittings, I turned water back on full power and immediately heard that dreaded hiss as it cascaded out of my bad job. After that, I always turn water on very slowly and check........ just in case!

    • @tokomac7728
      @tokomac7728 8 місяців тому

      marking marking marking marking😅😅😅😅

  • @mattundercoat
    @mattundercoat 11 місяців тому +46

    Thanks for that, Mark. You could have edited that out and nobody would have been any the wiser … but then nobody would have been any the wiser. Having spent most of today reminding myself why I’m not a plumber, it’s refreshing to see even the pros make mistakes - and the best ones are the ones who admit it.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +15

      That’s the whole point of the channel…. To show “Real World Plumbing”…..
      This is what happens now and again…… 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @trojanhorsey
      @trojanhorsey 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MJTiffPlumbing Mate I dread to think the damage a fitting failing could do in a wall of under the floor I imagine you capped that and ran down stairs in 30 seconds mains pressure is scary stuff lol.

    • @michaelpyra7554
      @michaelpyra7554 11 місяців тому

      Hi its Michaels grandson again me and my grandad are trade plumbers hahahaha

    • @robinwigley1996
      @robinwigley1996 10 місяців тому

      Good job you could test it

    • @tonyjohnson4004
      @tonyjohnson4004 8 місяців тому

      best ones solder the copper

  • @thetruthwillwinoneday
    @thetruthwillwinoneday 11 місяців тому +26

    Fellow plumber here, been thinking of going flame free but you have just convinced me to stay with my trusty blow torch. Those fittings are a fortune as well. Love the videos m8.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Pros and cons for each to be fair

    • @superwout
      @superwout 10 місяців тому +4

      My friend, flame free id not a necessity if you have a little common sense. I prefer soldering over press fittings because there no rubber O-rings that can fail over time and PEX fittings because of the same reason: no rubber

    • @jonhandle
      @jonhandle 10 місяців тому +3

      Wouldn’t have me using those nothing wrong with solder and a blow torch

    • @michaeldegroot7550
      @michaeldegroot7550 6 місяців тому

      I have seen plenty of soldering fittings from 30+ years old that were loose. So a rubber or soldering, over time everything can go bad. Two reasons I choose for press fittings. It is a lot quicker and you don't have to work with an open flame so there is no chance of a fire. And trust me this happens more than people think.
      Only thing with press fittings is they became ridiculous expensive in the last three years.

    • @twig3288
      @twig3288 5 місяців тому

      It’s much easier to remake a soldered joint or the old style compression joints with olives
      I put this new type of fitting into the same category as keyless entry and electric parking brakes on cars.

  • @keithcampbell7214
    @keithcampbell7214 11 місяців тому +4

    Real world plumbing, these things happen this is why I like watching your channel Mark. It shows how to rectify issues when they need sorting, keep the good work coming.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks buddy…. Exactly what it’s all about…. Real World Plumbing

  • @calebanguiano1944
    @calebanguiano1944 11 місяців тому +6

    I enjoy watching your videos. I'm a plumber in America, and I'm always interested in the way other countries do plumbing. Nice work.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Hey buddy… glad you like the content.
      I would love to come over and do some plumbing in the US 👌🏼👌🏼

  • @keithmclean3151
    @keithmclean3151 8 місяців тому +4

    Well done Mark. Top marks to you for having pride in your work. We are only human. You are nice enough to share so we can all learn.

  • @ultrasteve9031
    @ultrasteve9031 11 місяців тому +6

    That's the mini nightmare we all dread, especially when you're in the house on your own and you've got to get to the stop tap. Thanks for showing it all. I had a rad blow when i was giving the system a flush and black sludge went everywhere. Sh1t happens, it's how you deal with it. Well done Mark. I can see how the press fit is tricky to be sure you've pressed them all.Cheers for the honest vid.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      100% that buddy….. it’s how you deal with it👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼

    • @acefreaky2988
      @acefreaky2988 10 місяців тому

      Not a big fan of pressfit anyway.

  • @poyeep6123
    @poyeep6123 Місяць тому +1

    Man... You are the star. Watching you because of your honest approach to the job. No one is perfect and if someone is telling you the other way just run away. Great job as usual.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  Місяць тому +1

      Thankyou mate, Appriciate the comment…. It’s always Real World Plumbing on my channel👍🏼👍🏼

  • @andyfadian
    @andyfadian 11 місяців тому +9

    Class act Mark for showing the good and bad bits of real world plumbing 👏👏

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks buddy 🙌🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @eddiestafford3313
    @eddiestafford3313 11 місяців тому +2

    Great learning point Mark, its the type of thing that happens to everyone now and again on one of those Monday mornings. Great video buddy.👍👍👍

  • @richardaird2880
    @richardaird2880 11 місяців тому +2

    Hi Mark, As you say, "It is what it is"! we've all done it! even done it with soldered joints. Lesson learned there then " REAL WORLD PLUMBING"! Great honest video.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      100% that mate…… 👌🏼👌🏼

  • @leonw5165
    @leonw5165 8 місяців тому +1

    Excellent one, Mark, real-time plumbing; this restores faith in myself; when things happen, sometimes I beat myself up.

  • @andrewsands2481
    @andrewsands2481 11 місяців тому +5

    Well done for showing that mark. We always put an 'x' in Sharpie on either side of the press as a witness mark or I prefer to use the gerberit fittings so you can easily see when you have pressed them.

  • @9720miller
    @9720miller 11 місяців тому +4

    It’s nice to see a plumber showing the bad bits too. I always use Giberit fittings as like you said you have the plastic on the collar of the fittings to confirm if it’s pressed.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate…… Real World Plumbing here😉👍🏼

  • @digitaria
    @digitaria 10 місяців тому +1

    Respect to you for showing that human error. Just finished a bathroom and ended up having to replace the kitchen ceiling. Keep up the great work.

  • @stevereynolds7375
    @stevereynolds7375 11 місяців тому +5

    Although I've always thought the Geberit fittings are not good for the environment with their plastic caps and plastic wraps at least you can see what has been pressed and what hasn't. Big fan of pressfit great for leaks and in roofs. Great videos keep up the good work 👏

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate…. Yep, the covers that break when it’s pressed are very handy

  • @robcoppin5699
    @robcoppin5699 11 місяців тому +2

    Real world Mark 👍Happens to us all it's just whether your man enough to admit it & you truly are 👌I went to do a cloakroom strip out & blank off yesterday & ended getting up more involved than my quote which resulted in a call back to a waste remodel that was weeping but i didn't hide from it

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      It’s what this channel is all about… Real World Plumbing… showing it all🙏🏼🙏🏼👍🏼

  • @johnboy2984
    @johnboy2984 11 місяців тому +2

    Hi Mark. Fair play leaving that In Mark. As you say real world plumbing. Would be interesting to see what other plumbers do to remember which fittings they have pressed. I am sure you will get a system in place. Have a good week Mark 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks mate…. Yep I’m still learning the press game to be fair, and these things happen…. So showing it could help others👍🏼👍🏼

  • @andyroberts9562
    @andyroberts9562 11 місяців тому +1

    Ace video Mark real world plumbing as you say these things happen and thanks for leaving it in, I once jigsawed through a live mains cold pipe (im a diy'er) that feeling knowing you have to leave it to run downstairs to switch the mains off 😂, we do a lot of offsite pipework so mark the fittings once pressed

  • @nigel1964
    @nigel1964 11 місяців тому +3

    Interesting video Mark good job you had that cap to use otherwise it would of been another plastered ceiling. I agree there should be a better way of checking if you have pressed the fitting. Have a good week. 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼
      Always have a cap near 🤣

  • @vitaliimelnichuk3311
    @vitaliimelnichuk3311 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for video. Very good lessons in one video for everyone who works with press fittings. I didn’t even expect this rubber ring can come out. I have same press tool and some one tells me it must be calibrated with time otherwise it pressing badly and joints leaking

  • @LN2Poachers
    @LN2Poachers 4 місяці тому +1

    I think it’s great that you’re showing even the pros are only
    Human and make mistakes. Handled it really well too. Great video

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks mate…. We all make mistakes, it’s how you deal with them that counts.
      Real World Plumbing on my channel, when it goes right and wrong… we are all human👍🏼👍🏼

  • @rm-mastering
    @rm-mastering 11 місяців тому +2

    Wow... great video with the pressfit, good tip whith making sure you check the pressfit fitting.

  • @DABroke
    @DABroke 11 місяців тому +4

    Great video and fair play to you for the full disclosure and as you say its real world plumbing and for me (as a DIY'er) its nice to know even the professionals have off days! I don't know much about these fittings but I assume that the diameter of a pressed and unpressed joint are different and I was wondering if it would be possible to get a metal block made up with a gap equivalent to the 'pressed' dia so that you could check each joint before restoring the water supply. I bit like a Go/NOGo gauge commonly used within the engineering industry.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Would add so much time to any job it wouldn’t be worth it… just mark the joint when done is the one

  • @tkthebear984
    @tkthebear984 11 місяців тому +11

    Well that was very stressful for you Mark and also very interesting on how easy it is to forget to do a pressfit fitting. Personally I’m not keen on them as you don’t have a visual indication to show you it’s been done, like a soldered joint 🙂. I almost choked on my beer when all that water gushed out 😂 Great video 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +3

      Hahahaa…. Glad you enjoyed it mate

    • @okgroomer1966
      @okgroomer1966 7 місяців тому

      Sure you do. A pressed fitting shows obvious signs it's been pressed. I personally use a sharpie to make extra sure but they definitely look different

  • @kendevanny4078
    @kendevanny4078 11 місяців тому +2

    Very pressing situation kid, loved how you flew up the stairs the second time lol.

  • @garyredfern5303
    @garyredfern5303 11 місяців тому +2

    And that's why you check all fittings before the flooring goes down. I was talking to conex and he said the v fittings will weep if not pressed up to 6 bar. I never want to find out if that's true. Great video #realworld 👍👍

  • @michaeldegroot7550
    @michaeldegroot7550 6 місяців тому +1

    Glad to see I am not the only one that has made this mistake. I forgot one to press two months ago. Sadly the wall was allready closed but luckily it was my own house 😅

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  6 місяців тому +1

      Real world plumbing on this channel….. I show it all, not just the good bits

  • @jonwalsh3343
    @jonwalsh3343 11 місяців тому +18

    Hi Mark, Great video as usual. I always put a cross on each side of every fitting once we have pressed it, also helps to draw round the pipe once inserted when you have pushed them together so you can see if the copper ever slips back before pressing.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      👍🏼👍🏼

    • @TomRedshawPK
      @TomRedshawPK 11 місяців тому

      @@MJTiffPlumbing I do this as well, just a little X on each side of the fitting, bit more work but helps you see at a glance if youve done it or not, we've all been there 👍

    • @Wingnut2000007
      @Wingnut2000007 11 місяців тому

      Your supposed to put a cross next to a pressed fitting and your initial , we have been using press for years now but it took a lot of convincing , but it does work out expensive if you have to cut it all out, like Mark press can fail but it is a learning curve... I drilled through a water main twice in 1 day it happens lol.

    • @leefairhurst9058
      @leefairhurst9058 11 місяців тому +2

      What a faff sorry guy's I'll stick with my much cheaper bullet proof easier to install end feed

    • @SeanHowley
      @SeanHowley 3 дні тому

      @@Wingnut2000007the “x” I understand but why the initial?

  • @kendom33
    @kendom33 6 місяців тому +2

    That was really informative Mark. Thank you. Maybe mark the pipes after pressing?? I do that when leak checking Industrial gases

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate… and yep moving forward I will do👌🏼👍🏼

  • @chrisholt2474
    @chrisholt2474 11 місяців тому +4

    Hi Mark, what a nightmare that must have been for you, as you say user error, just a slight change to your pressing routine will solve the problem.
    As others say, just mark the joint when you have pressed it and double check all are marked before you turn the water back on. It might also be worth double checking the rubber O ring is in situ before assembling the joint, belt and braces etc. it’s not a reason to avoid using pressfit, just part of the learning curve.
    Looks like a nice job and I look forward to the next episode, have a great week and take care especially with that press gun 😅, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Exactly that Chris…. Complete user error on this account… press wasn’t the issue

  • @GasmanChris5705
    @GasmanChris5705 10 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant vid mate, feel your pain 😅 defo been there 👍. I always use the fittings with the plastic film on now 👍🙏. Keep up the great work Mark 🤙

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 місяців тому +1

      Yep they are Gebierit ones I think

  • @duncanvincent9106
    @duncanvincent9106 6 місяців тому +1

    That fail was so valuable to share. Thank you!

  • @hamblevalley
    @hamblevalley 11 місяців тому +4

    I would use them in a thatched loft else it's always end feed for me, unless it's impossible to get all the water out. I'm old school but well practiced in soldering.
    Great videos though Mark, it takes guts to show failures, many only show where it goes well even though everyone has the odd problem.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate….. just showing exactly how are days are, good and bad

  • @petemc5070
    @petemc5070 9 місяців тому

    Very helpful. The issue with those fittings seem to be two-fold - you can't tell if they've all been done up and if there's a leak you have to cut the pipework. They look smart, though!

  • @julianhawker7672
    @julianhawker7672 11 місяців тому +1

    Good save with the cap and screwdriver, shite happens ! I keep a couple of speedfit caps of various sizes in my bag for such panics. Props for not editing out.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому

      Gotta show it as it really is🙌🏼🙌🏼👌🏼

  • @jeremywhite5457
    @jeremywhite5457 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi, good honest video. I have been pressing copper and MLCP for 15 years - use Geberit fittings - they have a thin plastic layer around the fitting that falls off (with a little help) after it has been pressed, either that or use a Sharpie to mark the fitting. Also, as with push fit, always mark the depth, these fittings can move when being pressed and move off the pipe. Geberit supply a depth marking tool with there press guns. There is nothing worse than wondering if the pipe pulled out a little, best to know for sure.

  • @steveh100
    @steveh100 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the lesson on possible errors coming my way I'm sure.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  9 місяців тому +1

      😉…… everyday is a school day

  • @richardsedorski1206
    @richardsedorski1206 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow what a day great honest vid well done.👍👍👍😎😎😎

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks buddy…… real world plumbing👍🏼

  • @mattygeepph4115
    @mattygeepph4115 11 місяців тому +2

    Top work mark it takes a honest person to show a mistake fairly play they look like the gut press fittings wich don't come with any indicators once you've pressed them been caught out a few times best thing to do is put a visible pen mark after pressing hope this helps 😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍

  • @getbry7452
    @getbry7452 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice one, mate 👏
    Glad you got it sorted 💦
    👍

  • @RGB81-vr2se
    @RGB81-vr2se 6 місяців тому +1

    It is very kind of you being honest, this will remind everyone that it could happen, and pay attention, or use a marker or blue tape

  • @markspencer6235
    @markspencer6235 11 місяців тому +10

    I always mark the fitting using a green marker pen to confirm it’s been done ✅ well done for showing how some days just don’t go to plan, which is all part of the job !!! Keep up the good work 😊

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks buddy….. real world plumbing

    • @theCybershot123
      @theCybershot123 11 місяців тому +1

      agree put green marker on a piece of string so it does not get lost

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому

      That’s a shout👍🏼

    • @superwout
      @superwout 10 місяців тому

      How long will you keep that up when you're tired, have a lack of time...maybe you have more discipline than I do

    • @kumaram2944
      @kumaram2944 10 місяців тому

      ​@@MJTiffPlumbinghow do I contact you?

  • @user-yw6qb9tt7t
    @user-yw6qb9tt7t 11 місяців тому +1

    Great intro.. No manky old towel underneath. Asking for trouble 😂

  • @jupooh62
    @jupooh62 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for your honesty

  • @mathman0101
    @mathman0101 10 місяців тому +2

    In the US most have gone via the RLS and or Viega pro press fittings they seem to be much easier to determine when pressed. That being said still prefer to solder anything that that is fully covered by a floor or a ceiling. Good investigative work this experience will help avoid this kind of situation in the future.

  • @juliestreet8688
    @juliestreet8688 11 місяців тому +3

    Oh God this wasnt good for my hot flushes 😂😂😂
    Reminded me of the time I cut the wrong pipe and blasted black radiator sludge all over a cream carpet 😮😢
    Well done Mark I bet you could not wait to get home, Just Another Manic Monday!

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Black sludge…. Nasty nasty nasty

  • @TheTW11
    @TheTW11 11 місяців тому +2

    Hat's off to you mate. Something I remember the old boys telling me when I was an apprentice, 36 years ago, "he who aint made a mistake, aint made nothing".
    Maybe just use a marker on each joint to confirm it's pressed. Something like that might do.

  • @cathyoshea3844
    @cathyoshea3844 11 місяців тому +2

    Great video this has happened to every plumber, at some time. I personally don't see the advantage of press fit.

  • @Lizzard-t
    @Lizzard-t 11 місяців тому +2

    No matter how careful anyone is with making sure there's no leak , as sure as eggs are eggs ,if its wants to leak ,it will leak . I've had it where I've soldered a fitting and it looks water tight ,but the blighter shows me otherwise,or it just takes that split time where you get distracted.
    I've even had an occurrence where I didn't solder a joint and it held for a while.
    After 45 years in the industry anyone who says they never get a leak is a liar .
    I watched it a when it blew I felt myself panicking, it's not a good feeling.
    As you say it's " real world plumbing" and brought it home.
    Great save there on your part .
    And yes,I have finally subscribed.because what you show is all real and none of this " click bait "
    Thank you for all you do !

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Exactly all of that mate 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @dmarriott9701
    @dmarriott9701 11 місяців тому +3

    S-t happens Mark, there’s always something going around your head. It’s dead easy to miss these joints and I would agree with you that with solder joints it’s easier to see what you’ve missed but stick with and I’m sure it will all drop into place. Top marks (excuse the pun) for showing real world plumbing.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate…… always real world plumbing on this channel😉👍🏼👍🏼

  • @taylorpalmer8226
    @taylorpalmer8226 11 місяців тому +9

    I always use the geberit mapress fittings which are the ones you mentioned which have the little plastic bits wrapped round which come off after you crimp it! I don’t like using any others for that reason lol

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      I know what your saying buddy 👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @andystephenson7102
      @andystephenson7102 11 місяців тому +1

      Same, I always use the ones with the plastic on too. Maybe a paint marker built in to the press tool so it marks up the joint once you've crimped it. Get on with it Rothenberger, you can have that idea for free!

  • @gerrylane968
    @gerrylane968 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video mark cannot be careful enough.

  • @raymondhughes2874
    @raymondhughes2874 10 місяців тому +1

    Good video mate it does happen to us all at some point one boss said to me I've never had a leak told him he was a liar ha ha

  • @chrisgunn121
    @chrisgunn121 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video Mark, I love a good old snatch movie!!! I've got the same gun as you an mine leaves a witness mark on the fitting after its pressed, not sure if thats normal but does help as you can feel it, I also give the fittings a tug test and check them prior to pressing as I found a small stone behind the O ring which came straight out of a new unopened bag????

  • @ecofilterireland6454
    @ecofilterireland6454 11 місяців тому +1

    Good man Mark, keeping it real!!

  • @Bikergerbil
    @Bikergerbil 11 місяців тому +5

    Been using Mapress for years with no problems that I know of. Best way to make sure you've crimped all the joints is to mark them with a sharpie as you go. Quick, easy, (should be) foolproof. One job I worked on we had to initial each crimp so that if there were any leaks the boss would know who to blame.

  • @elBusDriverKC
    @elBusDriverKC 5 місяців тому +1

    I've forgot to clamp pex a couple of times. Water everywhere. I've also come across a situation where a CPVC joint had not been glued. It was just shoved together. And it held for 23 years until a bathroom remodel found it. I'd rather have a uncrimped connection blow right away as opposed to covering it up under a floor and then having it pop loose weeks, months later. At least you were there to shut things down quick!

  • @JanusDarke1
    @JanusDarke1 8 місяців тому +4

    For anyone that is in a hurry: It's user error. Pressfittings don't fail when installed correctly. We use these for over 30 years almost exclusively in germany.
    They are prone to user error however. That's why producers like Viega have instructions on how to install them. You have to mark the insertion depths and you have to mark already pressed fittings.
    Doing that gives you a perfect track record.
    **ALWAYS DOUBLE-CHECK EACH AND EVERY SINGLE CONNECTION.**

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  8 місяців тому +1

      👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @ciogon
      @ciogon 7 місяців тому

      Then why not using multilayer pipe with press fittings?pex-al-pex..those dont leak,and much easier to install and press...

  • @ak0792
    @ak0792 6 місяців тому +1

    Very nice hard work loved the vid, may I ask why you use pushfits for general joints? Usually i keep them only for exceptions where i cant get to with a permanent fitting

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate…..
      This job was spec’d in pushfit where not seen 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @wmonteith1
    @wmonteith1 7 місяців тому +1

    Every day is a school day
    Love your video's

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate….. it’s all about sharing the tips and tricks

  • @andyt741
    @andyt741 11 місяців тому +2

    ive been in the game 36yrs and yes we all have dodgy days,ive seen solder joints never solderd and have stayed tight just with the flux, however ive never been convinced of any push fit or the press fit crap, age old problem of a bit of rubber with a hole causing a lifetime of grief or till they leave home, on a serious note i had a bag of 15mm end feed elbows with pin holes in , lucky for me i felt sometimg on the back of my hand , couldnt see the fine jet of water and was very lucky as it was going to be under a very expensive floor for many years, no comment from the supplier or manufacture when i ranted at the merchants.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Always something to keep you on your toes

  • @russellthomas9391
    @russellthomas9391 9 місяців тому +1

    Easy after the event but perhaps fit some full bore isolation valves at the beginning .. easier if you have no one to turn the stopcock on for you . Plus if the customer is home they have their water back on whilst you do the work . Good video on press fit as I’m considering getting one - Thanks

  • @diddywright6165
    @diddywright6165 11 місяців тому +2

    Nice transparent content bud, not going to lie my stomach went when that fitting blew off, who’d be a plumber eh?!!

  • @bodinski100
    @bodinski100 5 місяців тому +1

    a little marker tick on the joint when youve pressed it...never miss another one...love the adrenalin rush when you pop a pipe ay haha

  • @Theblackdahlia1
    @Theblackdahlia1 10 місяців тому +1

    Here is the argument for PEX A/Uponor lol
    But when I was training at a plumbing company years ago we were taught to either check for the teat created by the jaws of the press tool or mark the joints with a marker.
    Nevertheless the less great video and keep up the work!

  • @riptiz
    @riptiz 11 місяців тому +1

    I wonder how many fittings have no o ring in from the shop. Btw I used one of the tile drills you recommended from eBay. Spot on!👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Can’t go wrong for £6 for 10 can you👌🏼👌🏼

  • @SpennieLence
    @SpennieLence 11 місяців тому +2

    Unlucky Mark, at least the gaff never flooded out that bad 👍🏻
    I'm assuming those fittings you use are STH Westco fittings as you shop at Plumbase I've noticed, the problem with them is that they don't come with the little plastic straps round the ends like Geberit/Xpress to show whether it's been pressed or not but Westco fittings are alot cheaper do I get it...
    That wouldn't have happened with a Viega press fit fitting as they have their SC Contour technology so if you haven't pressed a fitting and you turn the water on you'll instantly know whether there's a leak, there is a but though... Viega is expensive.
    I'm not a salesman but I used to work at a Plumbase down in London and have come across these issues 👍🏻
    Keep up the good work, love your videos.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      I use Peglar Xpress fittings buddy….. however my plumbase does stick Geberit ones with the caps👍🏼👍🏼

  • @83maller
    @83maller 6 місяців тому +1

    I love seeing this happen not because of damage or stress but it happens to the pro’s
    A lot of people would have edited this video
    You’ve gained a subscriber for your transparent 👍🏻👌👌

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks buddy…. It’s what this channel is all about, when it goes right and wrong..
      “Real World Plumbing”……😉

  • @davek5839
    @davek5839 11 місяців тому +2

    Great video, I'm still not sure about using press fit, like you said least with solder you can see if it's been done.
    If I'm working my own and I'm turning the water back on, I'll turn it on and let the pressure build up then turn it off again and check the pipework for leaks, if it's all OK then I'll turn the water on again and leave it on.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      👍🏼👍🏼 glad you enjoyed it

  • @jaehus1971
    @jaehus1971 11 місяців тому +2

    It’s great. Thanks Mark

  • @robertmawby3021
    @robertmawby3021 11 місяців тому +2

    I hope that the new ceiling patch survived?
    Nice video Mark 👍

  • @rogerbrown9783
    @rogerbrown9783 11 місяців тому +3

    Hi Mark, looks like a typical Monday, if you look you can see the ones you have pressed by the crimp marks that it leaves on the fittings, sometimes the bigger fittings weep and you can put a piece of paper around it and repress it, that is as long as it has a o ring in it.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep….. thought I had done them all👍🏼👍🏼

    • @okgroomer1966
      @okgroomer1966 7 місяців тому

      The ole missing O-ring. That got me one time in a restaurant. About 140 psi blasting the whole job because I was to dumb to check for o-rings.😂

  • @fraza7977
    @fraza7977 11 місяців тому +16

    The o ring falling out whilst dealing with the leak was unlucky, should get into the habit of marking a cross on the fitting ends after each crimp you do, saves any seconding guessing 👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Yep…. Still learning with the press game

    • @yugando
      @yugando 10 місяців тому

      Yea I carry a few sharpies for that very reason

  • @MrMGZT
    @MrMGZT 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi Mark, love your video’s, if your use the fitting without the plastic tell tails after pressing a permanent marker little X marks the spot

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  3 місяці тому +1

      Glad you like the content mate 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @garygillespie4188
    @garygillespie4188 11 місяців тому +2

    We had all new pipework done at the school where I work, the guys who was doing the works, was putting a x on each one they press fitted with a sharpie, I was saying wouldn’t like one of those 4” ones to blow 😂

  • @northernlight40
    @northernlight40 5 місяців тому +1

    Honesty great to see

  • @donaldduncan6017
    @donaldduncan6017 11 місяців тому +2

    When it rains IT RAINS on those days!!😂

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️yep

  • @quintdewit4870
    @quintdewit4870 11 місяців тому +2

    I met a plumber who put a mark on every joint he had pressed he used a black maker so you can see it very clearly I have done that ever since work like a charme just tape the cap of the marker on the Milwaukee press and you will always have a marker with you. Greetings from Belgium.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      👍🏼👍🏼 yep I’m going to be doing that

  • @seanfitzgibbon40
    @seanfitzgibbon40 11 місяців тому

    Love the honesty mate.

  • @ciaranboughton4713
    @ciaranboughton4713 11 місяців тому +2

    We all get days like that Mark joys of being a plumber real world plumbing mate 👊

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Keeps you on your toes mate 😉😉👌🏼

  • @johndevlin980
    @johndevlin980 11 місяців тому +1

    Good job Mark, sh1t meself when that popped off 😂😂

  • @kevinisaac9139
    @kevinisaac9139 11 місяців тому +2

    Well done for being up front mark I had a 22mm lever valve blow off on me when working on a unvented cylinder though it wasn’t leaking before it hd paste on it once I removed the pipe on the other end it went I was on my own had to refit it live I got slightly wet 😩

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Keeps you on your toes 🤣👍🏼

  • @user-jc8sx4el3r
    @user-jc8sx4el3r 11 місяців тому

    Hi Mark I've been using press fit for about 10 years commercially.
    Either a cross on the fitting to prove its pressed or as you sed the geberit fittings with the plastic ring on.
    Also have noticed that sometimes the o ring isn't sat properly and can pop out when pushing the copper in.

  • @killerbean9911
    @killerbean9911 11 місяців тому +1

    Cracking video as always mark,
    You could mark the ones you've done with a line coming out perpendicular to your depth mark, that way you know when it's done. I believe they advise this is done anyway?

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks mate…. Yep I’ve got to get into that habit

  • @bnstd
    @bnstd 11 місяців тому +2

    On a different note to press fittings - look at how much the original fitter carved out of that joist to fit the waste pipe & collar!

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      Yep 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @1993locky
    @1993locky 10 місяців тому +1

    Good video I use a marker just do a line across pipe and fitting when it's pressed to know once tested clean off

  • @jeffcartwright7270
    @jeffcartwright7270 11 місяців тому +1

    What a nightmare Mark.
    But well rescued in the end mate !.
    When the jaws close fully close and crimp the fittings, the jaws leave small witness marks on the copper fitting, made by the jaws.
    No witness marks and its not done, is an easy check.
    The original plumber has used a wood beaver to chop away the end of that wooden joist, in order to get that that 4" soil stack / foul waste pipe in place.
    I would like to think that the original plumber had bolted that now weakened joist back to the retaining wall after removing that much strength from it ?.
    But I doubt it.

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      It would of been the original builder when the houses were built🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @craigmilkins9697
    @craigmilkins9697 5 місяців тому +1

    easily done mate. i always forget to solvent weld fittings. defo wont be using press fit id be a nightmare.

  • @LemonGamingHD
    @LemonGamingHD 11 місяців тому +2

    We have to put a cross on each joint after we press it on sites. Longs out the install but worth it to avoid unpressed joints..

  • @seanmrt
    @seanmrt 10 місяців тому +1

    Nick Saunders said he’s got some rubber ducks if you want to borrow them 🤣🤣

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  10 місяців тому +1

      🤣🤣….. It’s the legendary Sean!!!!!…. Hello mate
      Tell Saunders he ain’t funny🤣🤣

  • @bryanporter3025
    @bryanporter3025 11 місяців тому +1

    Another great video Mark ......with a name like Mark to make sure you have crimped the fitting Mark...mark the pipe with a marker ....too many Mark's 😂 great video buddy....remember WH Smith's for a marker pen 🖍👈👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      I see what you did there 🤣🤣😉👍🏼

  • @yesterdaynight
    @yesterdaynight 5 місяців тому +1

    Ayup mark , when I was pipe fitting on site we used mapress all the time , we got a roasting if we didn't put an x with a marker pen on each joint as we did them

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  5 місяців тому +1

      Yep I must get into the habit of that

  • @diyvideojunk2066
    @diyvideojunk2066 9 місяців тому +1

    Have you ever tried the hand operated tool for use with Pressfit - they cost about £90 ?
    I like the idea of using the fittings but the price of the motorized clamp seems crazy ( around £750)
    Great video BTW !

  • @user-zz8it3it5b
    @user-zz8it3it5b 11 місяців тому +1

    If you do the press courses they tell you to mark the depth and then mark every fitting with your initials or an x for this reason so you don’t miss any….I I’ve done thousands of various sizes joints and have had ones marked and still not pressed so it’s easily done when busy either way. I had 3 67mm tees fresh out the box with no rubbers in but that was much easier to spot😂😂 Keep up the great work you’ll get used to press it’s the future 😂

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +1

      👍🏼👍🏼
      Thanks buddy 👍🏼

  • @vid63
    @vid63 11 місяців тому +1

    Great vid as usual, but I’ve got say your soldering always looked much better then press fit, I completely get it, time saving etc and it’s not seen for the most part, the soldering work just looked better …..but I am a viewer rather then a plumber, anyway always worth watching!

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼…..

  • @kenw2662
    @kenw2662 6 місяців тому +1

    Thought about investing in the same kit, but thought it was too expensive and bulky. Perhaps adding a Sharpie to your kit, press, mark, done.👍

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  6 місяців тому +1

      There is always the new Pressit-uk deal with a monthly rental on it

  • @Romanchelli-ci9on
    @Romanchelli-ci9on 5 місяців тому +1

    Loving your videos, learnt a lot of yourselves and others! Regarding the soil stack going up into the loft to regulates pressure by removing it are there any real cons or replacement that wasn’t described?
    My bathroom has one boxed in but I’d love to know if it can be removed to free up some more space as it’s only 3.4 sq/m

    • @Romanchelli-ci9on
      @Romanchelli-ci9on 5 місяців тому

      Figured out my own question, it’ll need an external soil stack venting outside rather than the roof via the loft

    • @MJTiffPlumbing
      @MJTiffPlumbing  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks…… all depends if you have another vented stack??

    • @Romanchelli-ci9on
      @Romanchelli-ci9on 5 місяців тому

      @@MJTiffPlumbing unfortunately not just the one leading into the loft/attic had a snoop on google street view and all other neighbours with the same build have them internally like mine, I’ll probably get a confirmation from local plumbers looping a vent externally will work to code. Thanks for the response!

  • @jonjames9036
    @jonjames9036 11 місяців тому +1

    Love the worts an all 😂tiff how about A black marker when press studied? Just a thought 👍🏼

  • @robdickson4071
    @robdickson4071 5 місяців тому +1

    I did a course with geberit and there fitting seal with the crimp only the on o'ring is there as a backup incase the crimp fails worth checking if the fitting you use are the same