Northstar Alternator Out the Bottom
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- This is the alternator to my 97 Cadillac DeVille Concours being removed through the bottom of the car. Lots of descriptions, but this is how you actually have to turn it to get it out. Please pardon my language.
Dude. You are STILL helping people with this vid. I'm a complete amateur when it comes to auto repairs and was cringing at what had to be done to get this out through the top. Found this vid and tried it. Only took about an hour and a half, and I'm a novice at all this! You saved me a lot of time and, as many have mentioned, busted knuckles. Thanks for posting this vid!
Did you notice any radiator damage days/weeks afterwards?
Nope, never gave us any issues.@@smiddy434
I turned it the other way and it slid right out with no trouble other than a little resistance from the hoses. I unbolted it, and rotated the 'face' side (with the two electric hookups) 90 degrees, so that it was facing down/ the hole, and it was no trouble. Went back the same way with a new one. Only trouble I had was getting that one bolted in, 2/3 bolts would catch thread, but not the third. I recommend starting with the smaller bolt on the back, and then doing the other two at the same time.
Hell yeah the only video I've seen where it shows the alternator come out. Doing my 99 Deville this week
There's a tricky bolt you're going to have to reach around carefully to get to. Good luck!!!
That looks like a freakin' knuckle buster. OUCH!
Yes it can be but its not the only engine to be this way. There is always something that is knuckle buster on every engine ever made. Its just the shear size of this engine that makes it look hard to do.
Just took my Alternator out of my 96 Eldorado Northstar! Mine came out easier once I realized that there is a frame access panel... took the four ten millimeter bolts out and alternator damn near fell out! These guys are rt! No need to take radiator out at all!
I've done this one more time since this video and really, with the right twist, it popped right out! The radiator wouldn't have made the twist any easier. Just falls out!
Denver Lancaster in a older comment you was saying you ran a shorter belt when your ac compressor clutch seized. do you remember what belt you used ? and did it fit with the AC compressor still there? mine is also seized up but i want to just bypass it
I don't recall exactly, I took a small tape measure and ran it through all the things to get the length.
footed16 I don't recall exactly, I took a small tape measure and ran it through all the things to get the length. and it did fit without any hassle. I made it from Texas to CO without taking the ac compressor or anything.
footed16 it's right, but it works. i135.photobucket.com/albums/q140/Parallax1/Thermostat_location_2_4_9.jpg
Gonna do one for my uncle today, was not looking forward to pulling the radiator, definitely going to try this way first! It's a 2001, hope it works the same. I'll post back when I'm done, and thanks for putting this up!
How did it go?
Still waiting.
Hey better late tthen never right? I totally forgot about it, but i remember cause that motor is a total pain in the a$$! It took me about half an hour of wiggling to get it out and i did loosen the radiator to get a little extra room (dont know that it actually helped but in my head it did) if i remember the mechaninc wanted to charge hime 3400.00 to change it!
I just did one today with my small mobile repair business. It will come out but go slow to not damage the radiator. Mine pretty much fell out by spinning the alternator were the base is facing the ground and of course the drive pulley will be facing up if your under the car
thanks for the laugh....now its my turn...:(
I'm tired of busted knuckles. I wear mechanics gloves and now I wonder why I didn't years ago!
I did it this weekend on a 1996 deville 4.6L. Take wire plug loose, remove radiator fan (2 bolts) and you can get it out without too much headache. Still a real pain as far as alternators go, but way easier than pulling the radiator!
Battery out first! Then whatever you can get off the side would be good. Just remember how it all goes back together. Label nuts. Going to need a 7, 10, and 13mm sockets, and maybe a 10mm wrench. Plate on the bottom where the alternator comes out. As pointed out before, radiator coming out might give you room, but isn't necessary. Best to come out the bottom. In google search: "Remove Install 97 Northstar Alternator" and you will get a plethora of information. Good luck.
Thanx. Did mine today what a pane in the arse!
no leak! but the ac compressor clutch seized up driving home from Texas. Ended up buying a shorter serpentine belt and looped it around everything but the compressor to get home.
plate and a lot of wires. bolts holding the thing in. my ac clutch seized driving down the road a couple months after this. I was able to run a belt through the engine and skip the AC all together. that was a good idea.
If I ever meet the person or persons ( this thing seems to have been designed by a committee of idiots.) who designed the Northstar engine I will slap them in the face.
This is not the only engine with the alternator mounted where it is. There are numerous other engines with alternators mounted in places that are much harder to get out. It's mounted in a good place but its just the shear size of the engine that makes it seem hard to get at. These are excellent engines and I have family that helped build these engines in Livonia Michigan.
Radiator might have been a good idea for a first time, but now that I know how to turn it putting the new one back in took no time at all. And the radiator wasn't actually an issue except turning the alt. at the very end. I understand the Aurora runs on L47 (offshoot of N*)? Would love to play with one of those. I will give it a second look next time I need to do it, but I can't really imagine a benefit besides another inch for a larger ratchet.
Good shit man
man you're taking forever you might as well took the radiator out
Did u take the subframe out to take that buick lucerne altonator out on that v8 northstar
Same problem I'm facing now
99 deville alternator..all bolts removed..having trouble getting it out through the access panel..pass. fan removed..does not "fall out" as some have mentioned..should pulley side be down, toward ground or up..don't want to force it.....
Very helpful thank you for the video
Did you have to remove any parts to get to it? please respond!
Alright, I appreciate it so much man!
I have to replace an alternator on a 99' DeVille.. with so many videos on the removal.. which in all honesty is the best and most efficient way to getting the job done?
Hey man hope youre still active, does anything have to be removed to get it from the bottom?
Anything you can get a socket wrench over... If you want to make it easy, then just take out the radiator. Best guess. But it's been a while.
Is it another video you front the start to I see this is a finishing part
Why even struggle with it? Take the extra 15 minutes to remove the radiator and enjoy the extra space to work in. Just replaced one on my Aurora. Only my two cents though.
Nice job!
other than the bottom plate did you have to take anything else off or apart I think have to replace my alternator in my 01 eldorado my service charging system warning came on my dad had to replace an ac belt in before I got it is it all one belt
There should be nothing else. Only the small access plate and the right cooling fan are the only two items necessary to remove. And the alternator then just slides on out.
First thing DISCONNECT THE BATTERY!
DID YOU CUT THE BRACKET/PLATE WHERE THE FAN REST ON TOP OFF?
No, it came off - two (or 3?) big bolts on the side.
what type car you're working on
did you have to separate the body from the subframe to get it out of the bottom?
No?
did a head gasket job on my 97 Eldorado let me tell you that shit wasn't fun ... bleed , sweat ,cursing
Did you pull the engine out from the top or out the bottom of the car?? A lot of people don't realize that the engine can be pulled straight up disconnected from the transmission and makes it much easier to work on. Dropping the sub frame is the hard way.
Northstar motor is a bitch to work on
Some things are. It's mostly its shear size that makes it a little more challenging to work on but it can be done. You just need patience and you will be fine.
So I replaced my radiator but it doesn't have the line for alternator cool
took me like 30 mins to figure out this puzzle
ugh!!!! all i see are 99s & 97s. DAMNIT!!!!!! i need 2004s! lol. jk
cooool
looks like the was more damage being done to the radiator on this way of removing the alternator. next video, where its removed safely without damage to other parts bro
Radiator was fine :)
And the new one went in smoother.
Now try vice versa
I have 95 Aurora I have to take the damn alternator out to have it rebuilt. damn this is gonna suck!!!
Just use patience and you will be fine. :)
AMCNorthstar 93 I love the cars but man I wanna meet the designer. ya know just to put my hands around his neck. lol. my problem was the damn ignition switch! after all the money I spent! guys if you have no start no crank check your ignition switch please! it have save u a ton of money.
Hondo T Well your talking to someone that had family in making these cars and also I know one someone that was on the Northstar design team. The only reason that its a little more difficult to get your hands in places is mainly because of the size of the motor. It really takes up a lot of space being a 32 valve V8. It's the same with Lincoln and the rest.
it the radiator leaking now? lol
i have to do mind soon. im going to hate doing this..
looking for the whole process....
Anthony Turitto denverlancaster.com/97-cadillac-deville-alternator-removal/
Thank you.
good luck
I have a buddy who owns a shop. He has a lift...of course. Going to let him take this one on.
Thanks.
lower right side of engine cradle then remove alternator . he,s risking a radiator gash
Take your time look like some good s*** to me
No need to lower engine cradle. Just remove the small access panel and maybe the right cooling fan and it then drops on out.
Well sir you are who you are,,,, no question there,,, oh yes I do know where you pulled the Alternator from, you should have left it there sounds like your missing it already,, enjoy your day,, oh and do watch your video again before you make a response,,your no mechanic and definitely no teacher,, ,,,.... ,,,, ....
I'm not even sure how to respond to that.
hehe
yeah now you have to put the new one back in.. shit
Seventh Universe Took half the time. :)
Denver Lancaster shut up
Oh no an extra minute...
Your minutes are obviously worth very little. ;)
thats no good man your are banging the crap out of the radiator
ZelosZelo radiator was completely fine
well yes, this time, what about all the novices trying to do this? or next time when you get one thats weak from age or whatever...its not a good practice to be hitting the radiator with parts is what im saying. In my opinion its one of those thought process that separates professionals from diy or someone thats just trying to get er done as quick and cheaply as possible. I prefer a mechanic that takes the appropriate amount of time to do things, esp on a Cadillac where its very easy to end up costing yourself extra $ and time by busting something by trying to fix something.
ZelosZelo well next time I'm broken down in shit ass Texas you're welcome to come do it for me.
@@ZelosZelo I'm sure the radiator still works fine to this day.
northstar are the shit engines of all time
I turned it the other way and it slid right out with no trouble other than a little resistance from the hoses. I unbolted it, and rotated the 'face' side (with the two electric hookups) 90 degrees, so that it was facing down/ the hole, and it was no trouble. Went back the same way with a new one. Only trouble I had was getting that one bolted in, 2/3 bolts would catch thread, but not the third. I recommend starting with the smaller bolt on the back, and then doing the other two at the same time.