I find it funny that a video essay about a greedy, multimillion dollar businessman is being copyrighted by a greedy, multimillion dollar business. Go figure.
Unlikely, I don't think they care that much to strike it other then "Hey thats our stuff there." Are they that shallow as the villains in the show? Yeah
Sorry to see that your video got copyright claimed by warner bros. They probably didn't like that roland dagget reminded them of themselves and how they screw over people as well.
I personally think that adding Zaslav's disgusting face to the background while talking about the villains motivated by greed made the video ten times better. What a stroke of genius.
People like Dagget are unfertilizing the only planet we know that is habitable and have audacity to put the blame on everyone but themselves and this suicidal and inhuman meatgrinder of a sistem.
I would argue that the dream segment in The Forgotten isnt about handouts, but rather Bruce having the realisation that helping financially isnt enough, that he needs to do something more
Just like real life. Giving gibs will only result in dependence, a true solution would be to actually help people get back on their feet. I think Sweden has something like this but im not sure.
@@Tigerkaya You also have to make sure they have the ABILITY to fish. If the wealthy and powerful have gotten laws passed making it illegal for ordinary folks to fish, then they're still going to go hungry.
After their recent fails like canceling Coyote Vs Acme all because of their current CEO, and Coyote Vs Acme WAS completed and had a POSITIVE reception from test audiences, I’m not surprised.
One of the most “tasteful” copyright reactions I’ve seen, the black-white filter leans into the noir aesthetic, quite interesting to look at, would love to see it reused somehow. Wish you and your channel the best!
Funny how corporations forget that critiques and analysis _exactly like this_ are 100% explicitly legal under United States law, yet push the boundaries of legality everywhere else... 🤔 Excellent response to the "request." 💙🤘
What I'll say again is that I think it was really cool how they made Roland the spitting image of Norman Osborn from Spider-Man. Heck, Dagget even has some moments where he has this insane smile, and the resemblance is REALLY obvious. Such a cool little nod to Marvel's own evil industrialist.
Love how Dagget and Joker and others are driven to the poor house by Batman over the original first season of 85 episodes as it's split on Max. Ed Asner did a wonderful job. His run as Granny Goodness is wonderful turn on the character.
First off, quite fitting to put Zaslav as a copyright filter while talking about corrupt corporate executives. Second, Roland Daggett makes Ferris Boyle look like a saint in comparison, sheesh!
Usually I hate anti-copyright measures like this but it’s genuinely funny how you put Zaslav’s face over the footage as a not-so-subtle jab at him (the man ruined Discovery, Cartoon Network, and because of him Coyote Vs Acme is in limbo, So yeah its very understandable.).
Oh the irony of Warner Bros acting like Roland Dagget. It never ceases to amaze me. And I have to point out that your other videos on characters from the DCAU, Warner Bros doesn’t copyright strike them. It’s only the Roland Dagget video that they think is going too far.
Dagger is the opposite of Bruce Wayne much more than other powerful people, Bruce will do anything within his power to help improve Gotham, even if it gets him in trouble, while Daggett makes Gotham a much worse place by oppressing those he has power over, while cowering or just walking away as soon as the heat is slightly on him, Daggett is everything Bruce strives to be the opposite, thus it is no wonder his intro episode is him framing Bruce.
I am happy to see this video back up. Out of all the non costumed villains Batman wanted to punch, Dagget is at the very top of the list. He makes Thorne look like a saint.
Unpopular opinion, I prefer the villians like Daggett, and Thorne more because they can still be menacing without going over the top and being a little corny.
It’s cause it hits closer to home. We’ve all seen shitbag rich assholes in our own towns who wanna tear down important parts of cities for their own gain. Not many have seen a crazed clown crime boss or a guy in a snot green bodysuit w/ question marks asking you riddles
That is by design. The show wants you to sympathize with the weird, the deranged, the maladaptive the other by making them sympathetic. Pushing the narrative that criminality is just a result of circumstances and or poverty and not the person being a c*nt with low impulse control and other maladaptive behaviors in the first place. (I don't think i have to explain that this narrative is extremely classist, shows that the writers are out of touch and at the same time obsolves the criminal of any fault, it's extremely subversive and stops actual solutions from being discussed) Granted episodes like this in the video show that people can just be aholes, funny tho this only appears for the upperclasses tho as if somehow it's impossible for the same thing to happen if you are poor.
Honestly, the black and white looks very cool imo, even if it’s only to avoid copyright
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Zaszlav was undoubtedly the reason it got pulled, and if he saw the video in context he likely shat on it for being compared to a legitimate scumbag like Dagget.
I think that the reason why the writters used so much greedy rich villains is because of the censourship that didn't allow them to portray public corruption or government autority figures as villains, so they used the closer thing they could imagine as a substitute for the realistic evil that makes Gotham in to the criminal nightmare we see in the comics.
The BTAS production team would be proud of this response to being told you have to change part of your video if you want to make money for people watching
@@SerumLake I must say I HEAVILY disagree with your tangent on the dream sequence. I mean really, calling it propaganda? That doesn't make any sense. It was clearly about Bruce's struggle with the fact that he isnt able to save everyone no matter what he does. You contradict yourself saying this after you just said the writers had contempt for the wealthy, if that's true then why would they insinuate a rightwing belief in a sympathetic light? Also you're making a lot of assumptions when you said that Bruce was thoughtless moving the company to Gotham would take away the jobs of the city it was originally in. Don't you think someone as smart as him would research the possible affects before actually going through with such a plan? You do realize it's entirely possible that Gotham is FAR worse off economically that city where the company originally was right?
@@rogerkeleshian2215Both assessments of the dream can be true, there’s no contradiction there. Bruce Timm added that dream sequence and stated that handing out money is just a band aid, and does nothing to solve homelessness. What he meant was that you need to do more than just give out money, however the right wing talking point is that there should be no handouts, or any kind of financial support. Just check out the comments on the video I did about Bruce Wayne being an idealised billionaire for right wingers reclaiming that scene. Edit: re: poverty shuffling, that’s exactly what happens in the real world when industries close down and either go out of business or move to cheaper locations. Look at cities like Detroit that once had a thriving car manufacturing industry. Bruce Wayne openly says that he only cares about bringing jobs to Gotham.
@SerumLake What happened on Detroit was far larger in scale of industry loss than that of one single company. Be that as it may, it's just so out of character for bruce to be so inconsiderate. Obviously, he cares about his home city primarily, but I for some reason doubt he has this ends justify the means attitude about it. I mean, later on we all know he joined the league so wouldn't that be costing him time in Gotham while he's away? Probably not because he likely allocates his time efficiently and picks and chooses when it's safe to help elsewhere.
@SerumLake As for the first point, there's still no implication of a right propaganda in that scene, as the audience isn't moved to think giving money is inherently useless, only that Bruce himself will never have enough. After I watched that scene as a kid, my first immediate thoughts weren't "Hey, look! Bruce Wayne is proving that giving money to the poor is useless" It was "Wow this is poignantly symbolic if not literally metaphoric of Bruce's efforts to save everyone although technically impossible, but the fact that he tries so hard is noble of him".
Villains like Daggot are a great reminder of way Bruce became Batman. Ideally, Bruce would be able to solve most of Gotham’s problems without becoming Batman. But with people like dagget influencing the system so heavily, Batman needs to go outside of the law in order to stop him. (I think that might have been part of what the dream sequence was alluding to, but I might be wrong).
I read the dream as bruce wanting to help but worried that nothig he do will matter and that there will always be people he isn't able to save somehow, and that eventually there'll be too many people for him to be able to do anything for even with his wealth
@@waltergaming817 Also he calls himself European. Europeans identity with their countries first they would say their country first before European. This indicates to me he is either a migrant, a federal European union supporter or generally a reddit tier pseud who sees himself as le citizen of the world, national identities are so backwards man type of person.
I saw the handouts part of the dream sequence akin to Bruce realizing that he can't just throw money at this problem. He is saddened as it dawns on him that these downtrodden are in this position because of a neglectful system that leaves him wondering if he can do more. Giving them some money might help now, but unless he does something to provide stability, these people will just end up right back where they are sooner than later.
The original cut was flagged by Warner Brothers and had to be taken down, so I've followed their guidelines and reuploaded it with some adjustments. Hope it satisfies them!
The way Daggett talks about the residents sort of reminds me of how the US government and media has talked about the people in Gaza. It’s so grossly dehumanising it makes my skin crawl, “died” “a 5 year old woman”. And what makes it worse is that both Daggett and the Politicians benefit from the suffering of the people they are dehumanising. What makes some of Batman’s villains so powerful is that they reflect a part of real life, whether it be the horrors of the entertainment industry with Baby Doll or the disgusting entitlement of incels with the Mad Hatter. And what’s more realistic than a rich white man benefiting from the subjugation of poor minorities?
Ah yes. The Israeli Bombing of the Gaza Strip. Funny enough,Donald Trump of ALL people would have been first to go to bat for Israel. But Joe is not really doing anything for Palestine either.
Welp, I was going to try to sleep after staying up for 6 hours past when i normallygo to sleep, but I guess that now has been thrown out the window time to watch this 30 times on repeat
I legitimately needed to focus on something else, but absolutely could not. I felt compelled to re-watch the entire thing right away, because the image on screen became more and more comical as the commentary went on. I nearly laughed out loud when his picture suddenly appeared with the description of Boss Biggis.
Roland Daggett reminded me a lot of Lex Luthor and Kingpin, someone you knew was a criminal but you couldn't prove it and was always a master of covering his tracks. He was a cool throwback to the old retro villains that you used to see in the old 1930s gangster movies and while he wasn't an evil madman like The Joker, he represented a different kind of evil: corporate. Daggett was a very wealthy guy who throws a lot of weight and commands a lot of influence in the criminal underworld but always got everyone to do his dirty work. He's not a villain you physically throw down with, Batman has to find ways to outsmart him and hopefully catch him out. I wished he made more apperances in the show as i would have loved to seen him eventually get his comeuppance
Roland Daggett's use as a way to showcase corruption in the show was quite effective and hycertainly wasn't the only culprit but having him be a recurring figure coupled with Ed Asner's great performance is what made Daggett much more memorable than other culprits with similar roles. Was it surface level, yeah quite a bit, but it's better than some other shows at the time did when it came to their themes. Speaking of other examples of corruption, there are quite a few examples like Ferris Boyle, Derek Powers, Penguin (in TNBA), Lex Luthor (my favourite) and so on, but the one instance where I felt it actually detracted from an already existing character and made his story less interesting is Daniel Mockridge with Riddler (sidenote I'll always say Nigma with an I). I felt that having Riddler's origin be that he became the Riddler for revenge because he was tricked not as compelling for the character as him becoming Riddler because he needed to prove his intellect and superiority and found normal life dull. It's still present through his dialogue but it's not as prominent until "Riddler's Reform" and even then I wouldn't say it's too focused on. True, Mockridge doesn't appear again but the effects of the episode he appeared in are still very prevalent in "What Is Reality " and I would just have rather they had moved on. It's one of quite a few issues with the DCAU Riddler which you would know since you made a video about him. I think The Batman 2004 handled the approach of him becoming Riddler for revenge in a much more interesting way as it showed that he was always this obsessed and the revenge was just an excuse he used for himself. I've said it before but my favourite adaptation and portrayal of the Riddler is the one voiced by Wally Wingert.
Honestly, I'd love it if The Batman 2 continued to throw shade at the elite. Like, if the villain is Mr. Freeze, they should make it clear that Mr. Freeze is the sympathetic villain who can be reasoned with, even though it would be hard, and he has understandable motivations, wanting to save his dying wife. And Mr. Boyle is the vile villain, the man with the heart of ice, who uses his philanthropy to improve his image, but in reality, he is willing to let a woman die if that would save him a few pretty pennies.
The Dream Sequence (in my opinion) is more over about Batman's fear that nothing will ever be enough to fix all the problems. But again, that is my veiw of it.
Here’s an idea for a future topic, Tony Zucco use it as a comparison between the animated series and the Batman cartoon. I think one shots villains are easier to start out with than recurring villains, after all characters who are basically one and done how much easier to comparison to recurring ones
I said it last time so I'll say it again he's probably loosely based off of Robert Mosley who's pretty much responsible for so many black communities getting bulldozed for freeways (not to get too real)
Well like I said that both Roland Dagget and Boss Biggis are people that should never be alive and I wonder that Dagget should have been in Mystery of the Batwoman were he teams up with Penguin, Throne, Carlton and Bane Glad you added the Dark knight Rises there as I think they change his name to John instead of Roland because of how it sounds like Nolan and that would have used Roland during Bruce’s final years before retiring and that in my Head canon that Bruce did married Selina.
I always Dagett, especially in Appointment in Crime Alley, as a take on Trump (similar to Max Schreck in Returns and certain versions of Lex Luthor). Imagine Roland now, a senile politician backed by a far right movement.
its weird how little dagget appeared in later seasons as his early appearances made it seem he'd be one of the BIG villains of the show, the face of "legitimate" criminals in our society who abuse their positions of power. Instead a lot of his comeuppance happened offscreen and is jsut implied after catwoman and batgirl defeat him.
Hands won't help everyone since that may make them greedy and demanding so that's something I disagree on. The better option which we do see Batman do is getting them a stable job so they can earn the livable wage instead of just handing them money and expecting them to use it to fix themselves.
Daggett is just too one-dimensional for my tastes. Like Boyle in Heart of Ice, he’s just meant to be a character that kids will realize is a villain even though he doesn’t rob or punch anyone.
Does anyone else I was thinking in Romans first appearance he basically could be seen as a metaphor for plastic surgery in his first appearance. He is offering it to someone who would need facial reconstruction surgery and then he’s planning it to sell it to the vein which is what plastic surgery has become in the mind of most people and I think, even in Japan at one point plastic surgery did cost money and that does have public healthcare
This video shouldn't have even been copyright claimed, it is all pure fair use. Even the use of footage is used to explain a point or a theory. I'm disgusted by warner bros. on this front.
Gotta love how, years later, Dr. Milo would finally get his comeuppance for his own role in Daggett's schemes when Doomsday squashed him like a bug. The DCAU never once allowed the truly evil characters to get away scot-free, even if it took nearly a decade to punish them.
Both socialist and capitalist medicine have significant downsides that cannot be overlooked. You're either paying an arm and a leg for untested treatments, or you're waiting forever because you're not a "priority case." More people need to call out the flaws of both of these economic systems.
@jordanloux3883 And I'll take the one where I don't have to be practically bleeding out to get immediate care. Take the good parts of both systems, and you'd have healthcare perfected.
By "best parts," I mean basic care and ER visits being totally free, but anything above that requiring a _reasonable_ out-of-pocket expense. I'll make an exception for reconstructive surgery, but cosmetic procedures should not be covered by basic healthcare. If it's for vanity, you're footing the bill yourself.
Hmm. WB copyright claims the video talking about how the stand in for the rich industrialists abusing people for money is the most despicable villain in the series. One could almost think that they were . . . offended by it? Nah, I'm sure it's coincidence. Also, I want to apologize for the outburst in the original video. Without the context of what was going on in my head, that might have seemed a little strange. Of course, if it had been an actual psychotic episode, context probably would have been irrelevant because it wouldn't have been any more sensible. Fortunately, that was not an episode, or at least not a psychotic one. It was just a case of what psychologists call "catastrophic thinking," an anxiety induced state of panic where one leaps to irrational worst-case scenarios. I'll leave the full details for therapy, but to sum up briefly, because that stupid capitalist vs. socialist argument was adjacent to an actual episode I went through in 2017, the fact that I brought it up again in a context where it wasn't actually that relevant brought memories back and . . . well, you can imagine why that panicked me. And in that panicked state, my brain was racing too fast for me to use standard coping mechanisms, such as reminding myself to think in the first person in order to avoid depersonalizing my thoughts. Fortunately, I have arrangements with my family to check in on me regularly in case things like this happen, so I had help to work through it, though it did take time for me to calm down enough that I could visit UA-cam again. So much stress over nothing, but at least no harm done. Aside from the embarrassment. Anyway, thanks for your understanding.
2:11 its actually not about donations being pointless, its about that even rich people like Bruce cant help EVERYONE. Its not saying "Dont donate!" but "You can't donate to everybody."
A policy of hiring cheap stupid goons fits the whole vibe of trying to maximise profit rather than efficiency, so i suits the character. He probably doesn't pay on time either.
No. I asked Dan Riba and he said they had already created Daggett before any of them saw Batman Returns. They also were weirded out that their episode The Mechanic shared the plot point of Penguin taking control of the Batmobile with Batman Returns. It’s funny how these weird coincidences happen.
Copyright Claim?! I'm sorry that happened to you, Serum Lake! But on the bright side, at least this video about Roland Daggett is reuploaded and I'm very interested to know a lot about him especially of how's also very cruel and will not care about humanity, but only cares about making profits especially that he's responsible for creating Clayface.😨
I’ve seen a lot of your videos, and yeah I wouldn’t call you socialist, more against people exploiting the success of actually talented people before them. So go off.
I find it funny that a video essay about a greedy, multimillion dollar businessman is being copyrighted by a greedy, multimillion dollar business. Go figure.
Obviously the resemblance was close enough they thought he used their image without permission
@@coolgreenbug7551 they felt seen
Unlikely, I don't think they care that much to strike it other then "Hey thats our stuff there." Are they that shallow as the villains in the show? Yeah
I remember his company once believed that My Little Pony was gonna be a success in his channel back then…it bombed.
Its not greed , its how capitalism works.
Sorry to see that your video got copyright claimed by warner bros. They probably didn't like that roland dagget reminded them of themselves and how they screw over people as well.
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I doubt they care that much
Knowing Warner Bros, I really would not be surprised
Yeah ima avoid this video now
The delicious timing of Zaslav's picture appearing IMMEDIATELY before you start dragging the corporate elite of Gotham...
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And to think, I never would've done it if they hadn't highlighted that segment as being problematic for them.
@@SerumLakeIs there a way to get the original unedited video somewhere else? Could you upload it in Mega?
@@SerumLakebirds of a faither gives me my fair lady and she's all that vibes.
I personally think that adding Zaslav's disgusting face to the background while talking about the villains motivated by greed made the video ten times better. What a stroke of genius.
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People like daggett do way more damage than the inmates of arkham could ever aspire to.
I would not go that far. The Joker almost blew up Gotham with a atomic bomb.
@@zemox2534and in Injustice he *did* blow metropolis up with an atomic bomb
People like Dagget are unfertilizing the only planet we know that is habitable and have audacity to put the blame on everyone but themselves and this suicidal and inhuman meatgrinder of a sistem.
I would argue that the dream segment in The Forgotten isnt about handouts, but rather Bruce having the realisation that helping financially isnt enough, that he needs to do something more
Just like real life. Giving gibs will only result in dependence, a true solution would be to actually help people get back on their feet. I think Sweden has something like this but im not sure.
Like the old saying "give a man a fish he'll be full for a day, teach em how to fish and they'll never go hungry again."
@@Tigerkaya You also have to make sure they have the ABILITY to fish. If the wealthy and powerful have gotten laws passed making it illegal for ordinary folks to fish, then they're still going to go hungry.
warner bros hates being called out lol
After their recent fails like canceling Coyote Vs Acme all because of their current CEO, and Coyote Vs Acme WAS completed and had a POSITIVE reception from test audiences, I’m not surprised.
@@krvgames9258 right??? like wtf man
One of the most “tasteful” copyright reactions I’ve seen, the black-white filter leans into the noir aesthetic, quite interesting to look at, would love to see it reused somehow. Wish you and your channel the best!
Agreed
Funny how corporations forget that critiques and analysis _exactly like this_ are 100% explicitly legal under United States law, yet push the boundaries of legality everywhere else... 🤔
Excellent response to the "request." 💙🤘
They can do this because the State is their vassal as long as we live in capitalism they will do this.
What I'll say again is that I think it was really cool how they made Roland the spitting image of Norman Osborn from Spider-Man. Heck, Dagget even has some moments where he has this insane smile, and the resemblance is REALLY obvious. Such a cool little nod to Marvel's own evil industrialist.
David Zaslav's creepy little smile just makes me think of Toyman. He actually looks a lot like Toyman's mask lol.
Except Toyman is smarter than Zaslav
Love how Dagget and Joker and others are driven to the poor house by Batman over the original first season of 85 episodes as it's split on Max.
Ed Asner did a wonderful job. His run as Granny Goodness is wonderful turn on the character.
Okay, but this is the best possible response to a copyright claim. 😂
First off, quite fitting to put Zaslav as a copyright filter while talking about corrupt corporate executives. Second, Roland Daggett makes Ferris Boyle look like a saint in comparison, sheesh!
Usually I hate anti-copyright measures like this but it’s genuinely funny how you put Zaslav’s face over the footage as a not-so-subtle jab at him (the man ruined Discovery, Cartoon Network, and because of him Coyote Vs Acme is in limbo, So yeah its very understandable.).
He’s pretty much Daggett irl
@@GOF2013 Only dumber.
Context?
zaslav is such a weirdo
Oh the irony of Warner Bros acting like Roland Dagget. It never ceases to amaze me. And I have to point out that your other videos on characters from the DCAU, Warner Bros doesn’t copyright strike them. It’s only the Roland Dagget video that they think is going too far.
Dagger is the opposite of Bruce Wayne much more than other powerful people, Bruce will do anything within his power to help improve Gotham, even if it gets him in trouble, while Daggett makes Gotham a much worse place by oppressing those he has power over, while cowering or just walking away as soon as the heat is slightly on him, Daggett is everything Bruce strives to be the opposite, thus it is no wonder his intro episode is him framing Bruce.
I am happy to see this video back up.
Out of all the non costumed villains Batman wanted to punch, Dagget is at the very top of the list. He makes Thorne look like a saint.
Crazy that this video out of all the vids that could be taken down, it the one calling out corrupt corporations
Coincidence? I. THINK. NOT.
warner bros have got to be making a joke with that takedown, like "we see you, lol"
Unpopular opinion, I prefer the villians like Daggett, and Thorne more because they can still be menacing without going over the top and being a little corny.
I prefer them to give us a more grounded threat the heroes face from time to time.
It's incredible how relatively ordinary people in this show can illicit anger from us more than the more famous villains do 🤔
It’s cause it hits closer to home. We’ve all seen shitbag rich assholes in our own towns who wanna tear down important parts of cities for their own gain. Not many have seen a crazed clown crime boss or a guy in a snot green bodysuit w/ question marks asking you riddles
That is by design. The show wants you to sympathize with the weird, the deranged, the maladaptive the other by making them sympathetic. Pushing the narrative that criminality is just a result of circumstances and or poverty and not the person being a c*nt with low impulse control and other maladaptive behaviors in the first place. (I don't think i have to explain that this narrative is extremely classist, shows that the writers are out of touch and at the same time obsolves the criminal of any fault, it's extremely subversive and stops actual solutions from being discussed) Granted episodes like this in the video show that people can just be aholes, funny tho this only appears for the upperclasses tho as if somehow it's impossible for the same thing to happen if you are poor.
Honestly, the black and white looks very cool imo, even if it’s only to avoid copyright
Zaszlav was undoubtedly the reason it got pulled, and if he saw the video in context he likely shat on it for being compared to a legitimate scumbag like Dagget.
I think that the reason why the writters used so much greedy rich villains is because of the censourship that didn't allow them to portray public corruption or government autority figures as villains, so they used the closer thing they could imagine as a substitute for the realistic evil that makes Gotham in to the criminal nightmare we see in the comics.
Every time one of the animated billionaire villains' faces lines up with David Zaslav, it never fails to make me laugh.
The BTAS production team would be proud of this response to being told you have to change part of your video if you want to make money for people watching
Im so glad that i saw the og vid
So sorry about the copyright bro
David Zaslov is the current Roland Daggett.
Roland Dagget's design and demeanor also closely resemble Spider-Man villain Norman Osborn (minus the "Osborn Cornrows").
Love your stuff Serum lake, Your understanding of the themes and characters is really wonderful
That's very kind of you to say, thank you!
@@SerumLake I must say I HEAVILY disagree with your tangent on the dream sequence. I mean really, calling it propaganda? That doesn't make any sense. It was clearly about Bruce's struggle with the fact that he isnt able to save everyone no matter what he does. You contradict yourself saying this after you just said the writers had contempt for the wealthy, if that's true then why would they insinuate a rightwing belief in a sympathetic light? Also you're making a lot of assumptions when you said that Bruce was thoughtless moving the company to Gotham would take away the jobs of the city it was originally in. Don't you think someone as smart as him would research the possible affects before actually going through with such a plan? You do realize it's entirely possible that Gotham is FAR worse off economically that city where the company originally was right?
@@rogerkeleshian2215Both assessments of the dream can be true, there’s no contradiction there.
Bruce Timm added that dream sequence and stated that handing out money is just a band aid, and does nothing to solve homelessness. What he meant was that you need to do more than just give out money, however the right wing talking point is that there should be no handouts, or any kind of financial support. Just check out the comments on the video I did about Bruce Wayne being an idealised billionaire for right wingers reclaiming that scene.
Edit: re: poverty shuffling, that’s exactly what happens in the real world when industries close down and either go out of business or move to cheaper locations. Look at cities like Detroit that once had a thriving car manufacturing industry. Bruce Wayne openly says that he only cares about bringing jobs to Gotham.
@SerumLake What happened on Detroit was far larger in scale of industry loss than that of one single company. Be that as it may, it's just so out of character for bruce to be so inconsiderate. Obviously, he cares about his home city primarily, but I for some reason doubt he has this ends justify the means attitude about it. I mean, later on we all know he joined the league so wouldn't that be costing him time in Gotham while he's away? Probably not because he likely allocates his time efficiently and picks and chooses when it's safe to help elsewhere.
@SerumLake As for the first point, there's still no implication of a right propaganda in that scene, as the audience isn't moved to think giving money is inherently useless, only that Bruce himself will never have enough. After I watched that scene as a kid, my first immediate thoughts weren't "Hey, look! Bruce Wayne is proving that giving money to the poor is useless" It was "Wow this is poignantly symbolic if not literally metaphoric of Bruce's efforts to save everyone although technically impossible, but the fact that he tries so hard is noble of him".
Bro I’m so mad for you that the vid got taken down but DAMN that edit is CUTTING 😂
Well done 😎
Re-Liking lol have a good one Mr. Lake
You too!
It's uncanny how Dagget's voice is very similar to an IRL modern person who is doing the same thing. Like talk about foresight....
Villains like Daggot are a great reminder of way Bruce became Batman. Ideally, Bruce would be able to solve most of Gotham’s problems without becoming Batman. But with people like dagget influencing the system so heavily, Batman needs to go outside of the law in order to stop him. (I think that might have been part of what the dream sequence was alluding to, but I might be wrong).
I read the dream as bruce wanting to help but worried that nothig he do will matter and that there will always be people he isn't able to save somehow, and that eventually there'll be too many people for him to be able to do anything for even with his wealth
@@sarafontanini7051I agree
Saying that it's an "anti handout" narrative is extremely simplistic and just shows the video maker's biases.
@@constantinethecataphract5949yeah, I don’t know why he said that either. It’s about Batman’s fear of never being able to do enough as one man
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Also he calls himself European.
Europeans identity with their countries first they would say their country first before European. This indicates to me he is either a migrant, a federal European union supporter or generally a reddit tier pseud who sees himself as le citizen of the world, national identities are so backwards man type of person.
I saw the handouts part of the dream sequence akin to Bruce realizing that he can't just throw money at this problem. He is saddened as it dawns on him that these downtrodden are in this position because of a neglectful system that leaves him wondering if he can do more. Giving them some money might help now, but unless he does something to provide stability, these people will just end up right back where they are sooner than later.
This video was NOT made 5 minutes ago
The original cut was flagged by Warner Brothers and had to be taken down, so I've followed their guidelines and reuploaded it with some adjustments. Hope it satisfies them!
I think Warner Bros. and UA-cam's copyright system are more hateful than Roland Dagget.
The way Daggett talks about the residents sort of reminds me of how the US government and media has talked about the people in Gaza. It’s so grossly dehumanising it makes my skin crawl, “died” “a 5 year old woman”. And what makes it worse is that both Daggett and the Politicians benefit from the suffering of the people they are dehumanising.
What makes some of Batman’s villains so powerful is that they reflect a part of real life, whether it be the horrors of the entertainment industry with Baby Doll or the disgusting entitlement of incels with the Mad Hatter. And what’s more realistic than a rich white man benefiting from the subjugation of poor minorities?
Ah yes. The Israeli Bombing of the Gaza Strip. Funny enough,Donald Trump of ALL people would have been first to go to bat for Israel. But Joe is not really doing anything for Palestine either.
Malicious compliance at its best. Chef's kiss! 😘🤌
Welp, I was going to try to sleep after staying up for 6 hours past when i normallygo to sleep, but I guess that now has been thrown out the window time to watch this 30 times on repeat
I legitimately needed to focus on something else, but absolutely could not. I felt compelled to re-watch the entire thing right away, because the image on screen became more and more comical as the commentary went on. I nearly laughed out loud when his picture suddenly appeared with the description of Boss Biggis.
Huh. Not what I got from the dream sequence. The take away I got was "No one person can solve all the world's problems"
Ed Asner is the voice of Roland Daggett in Batman: The Animated Series. Rip!
Roland Daggett is definitely related to Derek Powers
Roland Daggett reminded me a lot of Lex Luthor and Kingpin, someone you knew was a criminal but you couldn't prove it and was always a master of covering his tracks. He was a cool throwback to the old retro villains that you used to see in the old 1930s gangster movies and while he wasn't an evil madman like The Joker, he represented a different kind of evil: corporate. Daggett was a very wealthy guy who throws a lot of weight and commands a lot of influence in the criminal underworld but always got everyone to do his dirty work. He's not a villain you physically throw down with, Batman has to find ways to outsmart him and hopefully catch him out. I wished he made more apperances in the show as i would have loved to seen him eventually get his comeuppance
Roland Daggett's use as a way to showcase corruption in the show was quite effective and hycertainly wasn't the only culprit but having him be a recurring figure coupled with Ed Asner's great performance is what made Daggett much more memorable than other culprits with similar roles. Was it surface level, yeah quite a bit, but it's better than some other shows at the time did when it came to their themes. Speaking of other examples of corruption, there are quite a few examples like Ferris Boyle, Derek Powers, Penguin (in TNBA), Lex Luthor (my favourite) and so on, but the one instance where I felt it actually detracted from an already existing character and made his story less interesting is Daniel Mockridge with Riddler (sidenote I'll always say Nigma with an I). I felt that having Riddler's origin be that he became the Riddler for revenge because he was tricked not as compelling for the character as him becoming Riddler because he needed to prove his intellect and superiority and found normal life dull. It's still present through his dialogue but it's not as prominent until "Riddler's Reform" and even then I wouldn't say it's too focused on. True, Mockridge doesn't appear again but the effects of the episode he appeared in are still very prevalent in "What Is Reality " and I would just have rather they had moved on. It's one of quite a few issues with the DCAU Riddler which you would know since you made a video about him. I think The Batman 2004 handled the approach of him becoming Riddler for revenge in a much more interesting way as it showed that he was always this obsessed and the revenge was just an excuse he used for himself. I've said it before but my favourite adaptation and portrayal of the Riddler is the one voiced by Wally Wingert.
Daggett industries is also referenced in the Arkham games. The company is frequently mentioned in newspaper headlines.
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It seemed like Bruce was stressing over never being able to do enough. Not a statement on handout policies
Honestly, I'd love it if The Batman 2 continued to throw shade at the elite. Like, if the villain is Mr. Freeze, they should make it clear that Mr. Freeze is the sympathetic villain who can be reasoned with, even though it would be hard, and he has understandable motivations, wanting to save his dying wife. And Mr. Boyle is the vile villain, the man with the heart of ice, who uses his philanthropy to improve his image, but in reality, he is willing to let a woman die if that would save him a few pretty pennies.
Truely ironic how the video you make about an egotistical industry man gets taken down by an egotistical company. For shame, Warner Bros.
Hate that you were forced to alter your video, but love your take on the moral repugnance of Roland Daggett. Keep up the good work!
It’s ok, I got to make a fun joke about it!
The Dream Sequence (in my opinion) is more over about Batman's fear that nothing will ever be enough to fix all the problems. But again, that is my veiw of it.
David Zaslav.
Warner Bros keeping it in character I see
Here’s an idea for a future topic, Tony Zucco use it as a comparison between the animated series and the Batman cartoon. I think one shots villains are easier to start out with than recurring villains, after all characters who are basically one and done how much easier to comparison to recurring ones
Hi, Serum Lake
Howdy!
I'm not Serum Lake, but I *am* interested in propane and propane accessories.
Thanks for the reupload.
I said it last time so I'll say it again he's probably loosely based off of Robert Mosley who's pretty much responsible for so many black communities getting bulldozed for freeways (not to get too real)
How did you filter the clips? The perfect black and white actually looks really cool
Well like I said that both Roland Dagget and Boss Biggis are people that should never be alive and I wonder that Dagget should have been in Mystery of the Batwoman were he teams up with Penguin, Throne, Carlton and Bane
Glad you added the Dark knight Rises there as I think they change his name to John instead of Roland because of how it sounds like Nolan and that would have used Roland during Bruce’s final years before retiring and that in my Head canon that Bruce did married Selina.
Dagget doesn't seem like he's good at playing nice with others.
@@jordanloux3883I thought so and that he is pure evil
Maybe people like him would be a perfect exception from the No Kill Rule. Granted that would lead into Batman or rather Bruce being a dictator.
Sorry your video analysis was copyright claimed. Though it does reinforce your point about corporations and people at the head of corporations.
That’s what I was thinking
I wonder if the reason Daggett's minions are so pathetic is because he hired the cheapest ones.
Eh, Germs is a pretty solid combatant. That can't have been cheap.
I always Dagett, especially in Appointment in Crime Alley, as a take on Trump (similar to Max Schreck in Returns and certain versions of Lex Luthor). Imagine Roland now, a senile politician backed by a far right movement.
its weird how little dagget appeared in later seasons as his early appearances made it seem he'd be one of the BIG villains of the show, the face of "legitimate" criminals in our society who abuse their positions of power. Instead a lot of his comeuppance happened offscreen and is jsut implied after catwoman and batgirl defeat him.
I feel like giving him a big showdown would just be validating his ego.
Besides, he causes his downfall, which is hilariously karmic.
Hands won't help everyone since that may make them greedy and demanding so that's something I disagree on. The better option which we do see Batman do is getting them a stable job so they can earn the livable wage instead of just handing them money and expecting them to use it to fix themselves.
As an American I appreciate this vid.
Daggett is just too one-dimensional for my tastes. Like Boyle in Heart of Ice, he’s just meant to be a character that kids will realize is a villain even though he doesn’t rob or punch anyone.
Does anyone else I was thinking in Romans first appearance he basically could be seen as a metaphor for plastic surgery in his first appearance. He is offering it to someone who would need facial reconstruction surgery and then he’s planning it to sell it to the vein which is what plastic surgery has become in the mind of most people and I think, even in Japan at one point plastic surgery did cost money and that does have public healthcare
Uuuuuuuugh, this guy. Batman should have just let Clayface end him.
This video shouldn't have even been copyright claimed, it is all pure fair use. Even the use of footage is used to explain a point or a theory. I'm disgusted by warner bros. on this front.
I think this role contributed to me hearing Ed Anser when I read original post crisis Lex. Also hope you cover his turn as Granny Goodness.
Gotta love how, years later, Dr. Milo would finally get his comeuppance for his own role in Daggett's schemes when Doomsday squashed him like a bug. The DCAU never once allowed the truly evil characters to get away scot-free, even if it took nearly a decade to punish them.
0:22 personally, my favorite of all of the original btas enemies. I love that episode so much
Just leaving a like. Have no time to comment properly for the video as of this writing.
Both socialist and capitalist medicine have significant downsides that cannot be overlooked. You're either paying an arm and a leg for untested treatments, or you're waiting forever because you're not a "priority case." More people need to call out the flaws of both of these economic systems.
Yeah well I'll take the one that doesn't put you in debt for life
@jordanloux3883 And I'll take the one where I don't have to be practically bleeding out to get immediate care. Take the good parts of both systems, and you'd have healthcare perfected.
By "best parts," I mean basic care and ER visits being totally free, but anything above that requiring a _reasonable_ out-of-pocket expense. I'll make an exception for reconstructive surgery, but cosmetic procedures should not be covered by basic healthcare. If it's for vanity, you're footing the bill yourself.
Hmm. WB copyright claims the video talking about how the stand in for the rich industrialists abusing people for money is the most despicable villain in the series. One could almost think that they were . . . offended by it?
Nah, I'm sure it's coincidence.
Also, I want to apologize for the outburst in the original video. Without the context of what was going on in my head, that might have seemed a little strange. Of course, if it had been an actual psychotic episode, context probably would have been irrelevant because it wouldn't have been any more sensible. Fortunately, that was not an episode, or at least not a psychotic one. It was just a case of what psychologists call "catastrophic thinking," an anxiety induced state of panic where one leaps to irrational worst-case scenarios. I'll leave the full details for therapy, but to sum up briefly, because that stupid capitalist vs. socialist argument was adjacent to an actual episode I went through in 2017, the fact that I brought it up again in a context where it wasn't actually that relevant brought memories back and . . . well, you can imagine why that panicked me. And in that panicked state, my brain was racing too fast for me to use standard coping mechanisms, such as reminding myself to think in the first person in order to avoid depersonalizing my thoughts.
Fortunately, I have arrangements with my family to check in on me regularly in case things like this happen, so I had help to work through it, though it did take time for me to calm down enough that I could visit UA-cam again. So much stress over nothing, but at least no harm done. Aside from the embarrassment.
Anyway, thanks for your understanding.
No problem, I'll also try to keep that in mind for the future!
I think that Ronald daggett own,s Ace chemicals
My guess why he’s got incompetent henchmen is that’s he’s a shitty boss who underpays them so all the good henchmen won’t work for him.
Dang why dose Warner bros hate you I feel bad I have make sure I have my notifications on for your channel
Did Ed Asner have some kind of contract that he had to be in every truly Great animated series of the 90s? I swear this guy was in everything.
Roland Dagget is the most dangerous mob boss. He can give lex luthor a run for his money
I really hate that Daggett never got what was coming to him. He always seemed to get away with everything by passing the buck to someone else.
I think Hagan should have been allowed to kill Daggett tbh
2:11 its actually not about donations being pointless, its about that even rich people like Bruce cant help EVERYONE. Its not saying "Dont donate!" but "You can't donate to everybody."
at 9:21 thanks for the cameo of me luke and the mention of me at 10:12
A policy of hiring cheap stupid goons fits the whole vibe of trying to maximise profit rather than efficiency, so i suits the character. He probably doesn't pay on time either.
"Appointment in Crime Alley" is about Batman combatting gentrification.
Is there any truth to the rumor that Dagget was originally supposed to be Max Shrek?
No. I asked Dan Riba and he said they had already created Daggett before any of them saw Batman Returns. They also were weirded out that their episode The Mechanic shared the plot point of Penguin taking control of the Batmobile with Batman Returns.
It’s funny how these weird coincidences happen.
@@SerumLake Thanks for answering, that was one of those rumors that persisted forever!
As far as the accusations of Socialism goes. Chat,he is a Britbong. It is kind in European DNA at this point.
Copyright Claim?! I'm sorry that happened to you, Serum Lake! But on the bright side, at least this video about Roland Daggett is reuploaded and I'm very interested to know a lot about him especially of how's also very cruel and will not care about humanity, but only cares about making profits especially that he's responsible for creating Clayface.😨
Dr. Milo gets killed in JLU by Doomsday after trying to get Doomsday to go and kill Amanda Waller, hell of a karma there.
Well, you know what, the more I hear of Dagget the more it reminds of things that actually happend in real life.
It was cool to see him in The Dark Knight Rises!
What will happen bruce wayne and roland daggett were stranded on an island ?
As said on the original upload 0:51 there is *nothing wrong with being a "hardcore socialist"* - that's what I am.
Especially if you are wearing Black and Red it seems. Ask Kanye.
@@ZX-Gear why would I want political advice from that ignorant dickhead?
When you grow up, you will see the world differently.
@@ZX-Gear Kanye isn't a socialist, what are you on about?
@@ricardocantoral7672 simping for the spoilt and the greedy isn't grown-up, it's servile and spineless.
I’ve seen a lot of your videos, and yeah I wouldn’t call you socialist, more against people exploiting the success of actually talented people before them. So go off.
Daggett and his company were referenced in Gotham Knights, but not many people know that however because the game wasn’t good
Who’s the old guy that’s in the background? Kinda weird to have some rando old man, is he some rich dude that is like Dagget???
It’s the CEO of Warner Brothers.
like walter said sometimes the real monster work 9 to 5
I remember this espiode. Melty man horrifing.
man i would rather you use screenshots from the show rather than this headache inducing copyright avoidance. thank you anyway.
If they don't appreciate the joke and take this one down too I'll do as you suggested
@@SerumLake cool! Thank you for the video.
@@SerumLake Translation: "If you don't like the movie, I've got slides." 😂