Ivaylo is Mr.Yo for me I think Viper is Admiral and the last 2 players to qualify are actually Hera and Lierrry. John The Fearless is Hera and Philip the good is Liereyyy its looklike Yo, Hera and Lierrey are in same path to final 1/4 final between Hera and Liereyy and winner to face probably Mr.Yo on Semifinal
Viper confirmed. He plays Gods in these types of maps. But most important he makes his opponents looks bad despite they are great players. He outplays them.
Yes, I do think it's him too. The way he was greedy and fast to build the house walls in the first game plus all the castles and perfectly timed raidings was super viperish. But most importantly, he picked portuguese.
Ok here's my guess. In previous HC tournaments, Viper has been playing more casually in initial rounds and then really picked up speed when closing in on finals. This game has a very Viper esque feel from Ivaylo, in that it looks like a Viper who sees their opponent's playstyle, acknowledges their general skill level, and then adjusts his own play accordingly (more casual vs more tryhard). This really felt like watching Viper play vs an opponent that he is confident about beating. You see Ivaylo at times not care too much about specific micro because he probably knows he doesn't have to maximize every single aspect of his game to win. Like in first round, xbow and mango micro wasn't top tier, but that entire aspect was secondary to his gameplan of massive boom and macro play to win, so it didn't really matter. It just feels like watching Viper play a high tier match in ranked. But then again, anyone who seems confident has Viper feels automatically 11 so what do I know. Ivaylo looking confident as hell no matter who the player is, that's for sure.
Thats exactly how i felt when watching, too. The first game was pretty standard, to feel out the oponent, the second a bit more out of the box and the third quite whacky. Once he felt sure, he would win, he began messing more. Especially tiny things like the point where he walled of the demo. Im sure, he saw it and waited till the last moment to wall it out.
@@Link1506 Yep exactly. Comparably, in HC3 Hera was pretty much stomping everyone and going full serious mode in every match, which was seen in his result and his playstyle - whereas Viper was much more casual and chill (maybe except vs Mr Yo). It takes immense skill to make use of such different playstyles (as we saw in this video), and still pull off a comfortable win and never seem phased by anything.
@@Link1506 I'd even argue that the first game wasn't standard. It was overly greedy. It looked like Ivalyo was testing his opponent. King wasn't able to punish him hard enough for the astronomical greed, so Ivalyo allowed himself to lie back a little in game 2, and then even more in game 3 with his weird civ pick and seemingly purposefully failed micro.
@@DaddyMouse Indeed, that kind of greed only comes when you are testing limits to size up your opponent, and being so confident in macro skills - and then later showing superior micro skills in 2nd game too.. Not many players can pull it off against enemies of this level we see in HC tournaments.
Yeah he's kinda notorious for being unable to pronounce anything that doesn't sound like basic american english. It's funny though and i think he's aware. Just hear him try to say werewolf ; it sounds like woh-woh
Ivaylo has a very viper feel. The vill quick wall behind him when going to tower which I've only seen viper do (although he normally finishes it with two in front) and the quick wall at the wood line. The not using tc to kill boar is messing with me too although they may not do it for this big tournament. King belo feels like a skill gap so I dont think it's villese. I'm gunna go with Barles.
Barles said in his qualifier interview he hates water, so I can't see him picking high tides and mudflow as home maps. I've got a bunch of random notes about players and who they might be and I actually have Warwolf circled as being a strong Barles candidate. King felt a little like Dogau.
@@Eminence-of-Quran Globally banning is practically banning a Civ ahead of the actual draft. So you will never face that civ. Sniping is removing one civ from the opponent's draft. Like, if you see the opp drafted only one civ that's good for one map, you can snipe that civ to make that map much harder for them.
yeah, but ladder ranking means nothing really. viper does random civs and weird strats on ladder just for fun. at the same time, doing that might be helping him to be able to adapt to different situations faster, when other players are sometimes too focused on the one strat they went with...
I dont watch HC only like 3 games, but in one of them Ivaylo denided 2 castles by prefireing a castle foundation before it was placed, so i think so too that he is the viper.
Hey, T90, a tip from a Bulgarian: The English google translate speaker says "Ivaylo" pretty okay. So... you can use that... But tbh at this point I'm a big fan of Ivalyo :P
Confirmed. Letting the villager die on purpose at 47:23 was the most obvious tell, but also the consistent farm placement, map control, scouting, civilization draft. The signs are all there.
id bet 4:1 on viper being ivaylo. his base at the end is sooo telling. the house stalagmites, the evenly spaced defensive castles, the perfectly organized military buildings, the t90 farms
The FC in game 1 makes me pretty sure it‘s Viper. Don‘t see Yo, Hera or Lierrey doing that. Tatoh maybe and this might be my bias speaking but I don’t think he would 3:0 a player like the King so handily.
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I don't think Ivaylo is Viper. I can't see him ever globally banning Vikings; not because he loves playing them, but because it's a strong, versatile civ. Viper's global ban philosophy in pretty much every tournament has been "just ban a bad civ lol"
Convinced Ivaylo is a GL player. My money is on TaToH or DauT. Biggest giveaway is the rate at which they grab Bow Saw & Heavy Plough. Mr Yo is possible as well. Felt for Bela; there was an obvious skill gap this game. I am thinking Villese or Barles - Leaning to Barles; Villese is highly underrated.
Ivaylo played very well, I think it is Daut. Bela was unlucky to come up against such a strong player, there is a bit of a skill gap there so I think Bela is Viper.
@@omologo95 Ya really unlucky if it is Nicov, can imagine him being tilted after realising who he is up against in the first game and underperforming in the subsequent ones.
poor dogao, against Viper first series, I dont even think the played that bad first game, but he had bad civ matchup, mess up second game losing that vill, and the goths pick just broke his plans. Also Nili probably pretending to not know Ivaylo this is one of his team mates, considering that just by seeing the civ draft he should know lol.
*Spoilers: Ivaylo played out of his mind and is such a cool dude but i could not be happier that someone defeated him finally. That being said i wish there was a way all these pros could make a great income like this event.
Bela = Vinchester Ivaylo = don't know but not viper with that non-micro. Could be Yo Final game: If blue just went to imp earlier, walled the sides and pushed the middle he could have won
@@juhanikuronen6944 yeah but that would be intentional fails with quickwalls and such. He was consistently slow to react and didn't do any micro with either vills nor military
Ivaylo must be MbL, why would anyone take those risks to lame people? Moreover, Ivaylo uses outpost, most of the pros don't do that and its most common with MbL. Also, the failed quick wall in 49:55 :)
@@waleuska You are forgetting the fact that there are almost no quick walls in this game. This is clearly not Viper's style since he can protect his villagers just with quick walls. There were lots of quick walls opportunities but Ivaylo either didn't noticed (due to his attention somewhere else) or didn't believed himself to make it and lost some villagers because of it. In addition, yes Viper occasionally lames too and tries different strategies against even pros (that's why his rank is 20th) but in tournaments he lames when its safe and doesn't go with risky strategies like goths. In fact Viper consistently banned Goths in the 2v2 tournaments that Chinese won (forgot the name of the tournament).
@@emirozbalak What strikes me as distinctively not MBL is the strategy on mudflow. Not because he would't do it but because Admiral Yu Sun Shin did exactly the same against franks, a player that striked me as either Jordan or Viper. And even if he's neither, these two players still clearly trained together, which isn't classically an MBL thing.
@@emirozbalak viper didn't quick wall in all of hidden cup 3. That is why no one knew who he was. Also the fact he is very booming and loves his castles instead of hoarding or selling stone. Yeah he is also memer, he made elephants in game 1 of hidden cup 3.
@@Kloerb I literally don't know what are you talking about. You said "strategy in mudflow" but didn't said which strategy. The you said "not because he wouldn't do it" but what is the thing he wouldn't do? Then you said "Admiral Yu Sun Shin did exactly the same" but what did he did? Literally the only thing I understood was you don't think its MbL but you didn't give any explenation.
My favorite thing about competitive AoE is how much focus is placed on walling and quick-walling in Dark-Feudal age just for pros to forget that villagers can make walls at Castle-Imperial age.
It's been this way for a long time. Every Hidden Cup, people have doubted Viper with new competition coming in. As someone who's been here since the first one, you just know how this goes.
King Béla IV was killed by mongols. Which were called Tatars in Hungarian. Béla picked both , played both and he died. T90, please choose some other heroes next time, so people won't have to live up to their namesakes.
please t90 pronounce the name correctly, hidden cup was your idea. why use the heroes if u cant even be bothered? its EE-VAAY-LOO not EE-VAL-YOO ... i mean.. havent you even played the campaigns?
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Guest commentators really bringin’ their A-game. Was worried when it wasn’t just Dave and T but Dash and Nillie have been a real pleasure :)
Anyone else find rice farms so satisfying?
Especially when they catch fire from being hit by a boulder.
viper's been confirmed at least once every match so far
Viper is the admiral. Admiral for the win.
Win = Viper confirmed, lose = Barles 😂
Maxxie Skyfever is The Viper on a smurf account!
Confirmed!
There are also atleast 6 MBL's apparently
Ivaylo is Mr.Yo for me I think Viper is Admiral and the last 2 players to qualify are actually Hera and Lierrry. John The Fearless is Hera and Philip the good is Liereyyy its looklike Yo, Hera and Lierrey are in same path to final 1/4 final between Hera and Liereyy and winner to face probably Mr.Yo on Semifinal
Viper confirmed.
He plays Gods in these types of maps.
But most important he makes his opponents looks bad despite they are great players. He outplays them.
Yes, I do think it's him too. The way he was greedy and fast to build the house walls in the first game plus all the castles and perfectly timed raidings was super viperish. But most importantly, he picked portuguese.
Twitch chat is fucking hilarious. Everyone that wins is Viper.
They are right, tho.
Imagine their reaction if Vipi gets out of the tourney at the 1/8-finals 11
Actually Viper havent been voted all nerdy winers were voted Hera
well, the players prediction is even more hilarious because no one guess they beat Viper.
I find twitch chat extremely annoying, a shit ton of people spamming the same things over and over making all actual conversation impossible.
Ok here's my guess. In previous HC tournaments, Viper has been playing more casually in initial rounds and then really picked up speed when closing in on finals. This game has a very Viper esque feel from Ivaylo, in that it looks like a Viper who sees their opponent's playstyle, acknowledges their general skill level, and then adjusts his own play accordingly (more casual vs more tryhard). This really felt like watching Viper play vs an opponent that he is confident about beating. You see Ivaylo at times not care too much about specific micro because he probably knows he doesn't have to maximize every single aspect of his game to win. Like in first round, xbow and mango micro wasn't top tier, but that entire aspect was secondary to his gameplan of massive boom and macro play to win, so it didn't really matter. It just feels like watching Viper play a high tier match in ranked.
But then again, anyone who seems confident has Viper feels automatically 11 so what do I know. Ivaylo looking confident as hell no matter who the player is, that's for sure.
Thats exactly how i felt when watching, too. The first game was pretty standard, to feel out the oponent, the second a bit more out of the box and the third quite whacky. Once he felt sure, he would win, he began messing more. Especially tiny things like the point where he walled of the demo. Im sure, he saw it and waited till the last moment to wall it out.
@@Link1506 Yep exactly. Comparably, in HC3 Hera was pretty much stomping everyone and going full serious mode in every match, which was seen in his result and his playstyle - whereas Viper was much more casual and chill (maybe except vs Mr Yo). It takes immense skill to make use of such different playstyles (as we saw in this video), and still pull off a comfortable win and never seem phased by anything.
@@Link1506 I'd even argue that the first game wasn't standard. It was overly greedy. It looked like Ivalyo was testing his opponent. King wasn't able to punish him hard enough for the astronomical greed, so Ivalyo allowed himself to lie back a little in game 2, and then even more in game 3 with his weird civ pick and seemingly purposefully failed micro.
@@DaddyMouse Indeed, that kind of greed only comes when you are testing limits to size up your opponent, and being so confident in macro skills - and then later showing superior micro skills in 2nd game too.. Not many players can pull it off against enemies of this level we see in HC tournaments.
We need a compilation of everytime T90 pronouncing Ivaylo wrong. The title of the video will be 50 shades of Ivaylo
He's not doing a stellar job pronouncing Béla either. He says "Bella", as if he was the chick in Twillight.
Nili does get it right sometimes tho.
Yeah he's kinda notorious for being unable to pronounce anything that doesn't sound like basic american english. It's funny though and i think he's aware. Just hear him try to say werewolf ; it sounds like woh-woh
Ivaylo has a very viper feel. The vill quick wall behind him when going to tower which I've only seen viper do (although he normally finishes it with two in front) and the quick wall at the wood line. The not using tc to kill boar is messing with me too although they may not do it for this big tournament.
King belo feels like a skill gap so I dont think it's villese. I'm gunna go with Barles.
lol, every comment so far is like this
Barles said in his qualifier interview he hates water, so I can't see him picking high tides and mudflow as home maps. I've got a bunch of random notes about players and who they might be and I actually have Warwolf circled as being a strong Barles candidate. King felt a little like Dogau.
I have a hard time believing Ivaylo is Viper, purely because he globally banned Vikings. That just doesn't sound Viper-esque at all.
@@omologo95 What is the difference between globally banned and sniped?
@@Eminence-of-Quran Globally banning is practically banning a Civ ahead of the actual draft. So you will never face that civ.
Sniping is removing one civ from the opponent's draft. Like, if you see the opp drafted only one civ that's good for one map, you can snipe that civ to make that map much harder for them.
20:34 I legitimately thought Nili said "He'll be facing e-girls." and laughed for a moment. Chat clearly heard the same thing :D
Nili: "Viper 20th best player"
T90: literal lol
Vinchester when he's playing really really well is the player that looks the most like Viper in Hidden Cups
I said Viper would be Ivaylo as a blind guess before. I hope I am right.
"he gets *rocked* by the mangonel shot"
indeed.
this is so fun going from video to video looking for viper
Imagine having your world rank #20 be considered trolling 11 Viper is just built different
yeah, but ladder ranking means nothing really. viper does random civs and weird strats on ladder just for fun. at the same time, doing that might be helping him to be able to adapt to different situations faster, when other players are sometimes too focused on the one strat they went with...
Gonna leave this here for posterity, Ivaylo screams Snek in his incognito mode.
It's him.
I dont watch HC only like 3 games, but in one of them Ivaylo denided 2 castles by prefireing a castle foundation before it was placed, so i think so too that he is the viper.
18:00 Daut may be not the youngest in the tournament, but calling him a bit of a boomer is rough.
Hey, T90, a tip from a Bulgarian: The English google translate speaker says "Ivaylo" pretty okay. So... you can use that... But tbh at this point I'm a big fan of Ivalyo :P
Hey T90, a tip from an Age of Empires 2 player, just pronounce it like they do in the campaign ( ͡° ᴥ ͡°)
E value
I thank Bulgaria for being the historical basis for my favorite civ
@@afz902k :O 5head, I like it
how does t90 prove viper isn't just getting paid to play each time lol
I enjoy your archery vids, dude, surprised to see you here.
@@colbunkmust thanks, im an aoe fan too
Holy crap that last game. I thought for sure King Bela would get a win in game 3.... but then goths hit Imp and was like... okay time for me to win.
4. Béla mint Tatárok, zseniális... :D
Confirmed. Letting the villager die on purpose at 47:23 was the most obvious tell, but also the consistent farm placement, map control, scouting, civilization draft. The signs are all there.
Looking back at 49:55, it was also a successful quick wall - he just stopped himself
HC4 Hype!
Bela - Barles
Ivaylo - Vipa
The hero showdown has fully coincided with the actual tournament so far! Will admiral su shin win it all?
Spoiler alert if you haven't watched the stream:
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Cobra car lost.
T90 is at it again. there he goes again with his HIDDEN CUP! I dig his gig y'all
I don't know if it is viper but ivaylo feels like a top 3-5 player
id bet 4:1 on viper being ivaylo. his base at the end is sooo telling. the house stalagmites, the evenly spaced defensive castles, the perfectly organized military buildings, the t90 farms
What are your guesses for King Bela guys?
No one besides Viper 🐍 can quick wall that fast and clean. No one!!
Nice pronunciation of Ivaylo there, Tristram.
The FC in game 1 makes me pretty sure it‘s Viper. Don‘t see Yo, Hera or Lierrey doing that.
Tatoh maybe and this might be my bias speaking but I don’t think he would 3:0 a player like the King so handily.
@ 7:19 "Raaaar, raaar, raaaar !"
Brilliant commentary, Mr T90 !!! 🤣🤣🤣👍
The call of the tournament so far? 🤔😊
M 🦘🏏😎
Was this the only set in the full cup that actually went on high tides? I feel like I never saw that map come out.
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do u consider splitting the heroes into 2 pools, one for invited players and another for qualified ones?
my arguments :P
- prevent two top players facing each other first round. Imagine if it was Hera x Viper.
- prevents a super easy x super hard bracket sides
- prevents the above from affecting a future hidden cup, as results decides which players get invited next time (did I get this wrong?)
I don't think Ivaylo is Viper. I can't see him ever globally banning Vikings; not because he loves playing them, but because it's a strong, versatile civ. Viper's global ban philosophy in pretty much every tournament has been "just ban a bad civ lol"
Viper gets ruthless in hidden cup
Convinced Ivaylo is a GL player. My money is on TaToH or DauT. Biggest giveaway is the rate at which they grab Bow Saw & Heavy Plough. Mr Yo is possible as well.
Felt for Bela; there was an obvious skill gap this game. I am thinking Villese or Barles - Leaning to Barles; Villese is highly underrated.
Why not viper? He had the quick walls, did everything right and the macro was simply unbelievable. I think its the viper
Ivaylo is pronounced [i'vailɒ]. Do not despair, T90Official!
29:29 Nili stop thinking about inappropriate things at work
Damn this one was fast! Last game was so good!
Props to Viper this tournament
Ivaylo played very well, I think it is Daut. Bela was unlucky to come up against such a strong player, there is a bit of a skill gap there so I think Bela is Viper.
Lol
Viper vs Nicov confirmed!
I hope for Nicov's case that you're wrong. Poor Argentinian just can't get a break.
@@omologo95 Ya really unlucky if it is Nicov, can imagine him being tilted after realising who he is up against in the first game and underperforming in the subsequent ones.
@@pranjalgandhi6317 Especially since he faced Viper in round 1 in HC1, and Viper in round 2 in HC2. Boy's cursed.
What was that blue mangonel taking a straight up shot and surviving
It's a glitch that hasn't been patched for more than a month.
Oh my god dammit T90. I was just about to go to bed.
Stfu and go to bed kid
What's up with the animals in HC4?
Are they programmed to be unpredictable?
Ó Bella ciao bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao :-D
poor dogao, against Viper first series, I dont even think the played that bad first game, but he had bad civ matchup, mess up second game losing that vill, and the goths pick just broke his plans. Also Nili probably pretending to not know Ivaylo this is one of his team mates, considering that just by seeing the civ draft he should know lol.
Spoiler:
No Pants.
10:03 bambi went back :'(
Gonna give ivalyo the viper for now, havent watched any of the quarters yet so we shall see
So neither the Bulgarian hero nor the Magyar hero picked their own (or each other's) civilizations.
I thought this didnt start till next week
nope, tomorrow is the finals
Viper INTENTIONALLY not quickwalling his babe top side game 3
10 seconds into game "Viper confirmed"
*Spoilers:
Ivaylo played out of his mind and is such a cool dude but i could not be happier that someone defeated him finally. That being said i wish there was a way all these pros could make a great income like this event.
ivaylo viper confirmed. just look at game 1 barracks placement, thats a viper trademark.
T90: makes a tournament where all people's names are hidden
Also T90: gets annoyed because people are speculating who is who
What do you think of idle your tc for dad fuedal water control if you can win water saving your fishing ships you can offset a one vill advantage
Ivaylo Daut micro
Lol @ 9:30 people calling gg for blue
Bela = Vinchester
Ivaylo = don't know but not viper with that non-micro.
Could be Yo
Final game: If blue just went to imp earlier, walled the sides and pushed the middle he could have won
Viper did some failed micro on purpose in hc3
@@juhanikuronen6944 yeah but that would be intentional fails with quickwalls and such. He was consistently slow to react and didn't do any micro with either vills nor military
@@DanishCamp He let the villager die on purpose.
Ivaylo must be MbL, why would anyone take those risks to lame people?
Moreover, Ivaylo uses outpost, most of the pros don't do that and its most common with MbL. Also, the failed quick wall in 49:55 :)
Viper is willing to lame. He lame hera twice or three times in hidden cup 3. Also viper would be the guy to use goths on a random map and win.
@@waleuska You are forgetting the fact that there are almost no quick walls in this game. This is clearly not Viper's style since he can protect his villagers just with quick walls. There were lots of quick walls opportunities but Ivaylo either didn't noticed (due to his attention somewhere else) or didn't believed himself to make it and lost some villagers because of it.
In addition, yes Viper occasionally lames too and tries different strategies against even pros (that's why his rank is 20th) but in tournaments he lames when its safe and doesn't go with risky strategies like goths. In fact Viper consistently banned Goths in the 2v2 tournaments that Chinese won (forgot the name of the tournament).
@@emirozbalak What strikes me as distinctively not MBL is the strategy on mudflow. Not because he would't do it but because Admiral Yu Sun Shin did exactly the same against franks, a player that striked me as either Jordan or Viper. And even if he's neither, these two players still clearly trained together, which isn't classically an MBL thing.
@@emirozbalak viper didn't quick wall in all of hidden cup 3. That is why no one knew who he was. Also the fact he is very booming and loves his castles instead of hoarding or selling stone. Yeah he is also memer, he made elephants in game 1 of hidden cup 3.
@@Kloerb I literally don't know what are you talking about. You said "strategy in mudflow" but didn't said which strategy. The you said "not because he wouldn't do it" but what is the thing he wouldn't do? Then you said "Admiral Yu Sun Shin did exactly the same" but what did he did? Literally the only thing I understood was you don't think its MbL but you didn't give any explenation.
My favorite thing about competitive AoE is how much focus is placed on walling and quick-walling in Dark-Feudal age just for pros to forget that villagers can make walls at Castle-Imperial age.
Game 3 , monk go BOOM !!
Ivaylo might actually be Mephisto.
@t90 it's read: e-vy-lo
Viper and Tatoh confirmed
Viper loves messy games.
Spoilers!! (For the whole tournament)
I couldn’t believe it when you went out.
Salutes to you mr. 🐍
You’ll get them next time.
Why are they saying Ivalyo? Why not Ivaylo? xDD
Viper confirmed!!
I love T90
Vivi vs Dogao or Villese
Yo beats Dogao?
I'll be really disappointed if Ivaylo is Viper. All it would do is confirm that Viper is still destroying the competition.
It's been this way for a long time. Every Hidden Cup, people have doubted Viper with new competition coming in. As someone who's been here since the first one, you just know how this goes.
Ivalyo is Daut 👍
ivaylo is my bet for viper
we want Dave!!!!
VIPER!
Ivaylo is Hera I think
Hera is already identified unfortunatly
@@ardd.c.8113 who is Hera?
Hera is thought to be John the fearless iirc. Nothing confirmed tho
Ivalyo is viper
ivaylo feels so leerey
I dont think lierrey would fc game one, feels way more like yo or viper imo. If he ends up being lierrey though good on you
King Béla IV was killed by mongols. Which were called Tatars in Hungarian. Béla picked both , played both and he died.
T90, please choose some other heroes next time, so people won't have to live up to their namesakes.
ivaLYo :D
Wait, let me help you pronounce it right. Just say Ивайло ;)
V I P E R
Vipey
Evalio!!! lol
Who's here in 2024?
e-value
Why does no one support the fishing with a tower?! It would win all water fights and make fishing for the opponent impossible.
red no fucks approach to taking resources looks like Hera. REd is hera. totally.
e-y-lo :/
Can I play this
lol 5 mins ago
SPOILER FREE UOLOADS PLEASE; I think I'm just going to comment on every video.
This video is only 1:16h... please man, you're killing me!
UA-cam algorihm doesnt like an extra hour that nobody watches. You can install an youtube addonthat hides the lenght of the video
please t90 pronounce the name correctly, hidden cup was your idea. why use the heroes if u cant even be bothered? its EE-VAAY-LOO not EE-VAL-YOO ... i mean.. havent you even played the campaigns?
First? Hehe
Why not reveal the players as they are eliminated? Would be so much more fun :(
What's the point? Then everyone would know the finalists
It's more fun to watch the finals without revealing yeah?
Because it wouldn't be more fun, it would be too easy to guess the remaining players.
The point is to guess who is who till the last day. The more uncertainty, the more fun.
I get you but nah nah