This is the kind of lesson that SHOULD be taught. It INSTANTLY engages the kids & they then sit up, pay attention & actually ask INTELLIGENT questions. The teacher knows enough to fully answer the questions in a manner that the kids can understand. The point is then hammered home by the practical demonstration. Compare the expressions on the kids' faces at the beginning of the clip & at the end of the burning & then afterwards. Kids like these are NOT stupid; just let down by shite politics.
I don't agree. I saw mainly poor engagement that at times perked up, but, what I witnessed was a great teacher that impressed upon his pupils, but their enthusiasm was far less. This is why education fails the working class. The teacher can't enforce the attitude of the pupils, that is the job of the parents.
The sad thing about this programme is that you can see which kids actually care about learning but don't have the opportunities, and the kids that just don't care. Such a shame.
What I've seen is that it's actually mostly the boys who care more as well. Not to sound sexist, it's just what I've observed, you can see it as well - some of the girls with their extreme makeup or lack of care that don't seem to be from particularly troubled backgrounds. I wonder whether it's because we live in a society where women can rely on men later in their lives.
Dalibor Okoro Well judging an entire population by one class is hardly a scientific study but besides that, statistically, girls perform better than boys in school which defies your point. Perhaps girls are more interested other subjects? The history that David is teaching is laden with violence and other things that boys will naturally gravitate to.
I have to admit I find Starkey absolutely fascinating. I think it may be the raised voice, pointing and slightly eccentric rudeness... Also opening a class with “Today we’re going to burn a heretic!” is fundamentally hilarious. I may not agree with everything he says but him challenging the class in the way he does, engages them.
Indeed, they seemed "laid back", but I think they still appreciated him in their own way, especially in the other episodes where they did show him respect and give him his authority.
Starkey brings a lot of his own prejudices into the lesson and a lot of what he said could be challenged, but he still gives a fab lesson, certainly better than anything I ever got at school.
+SilverishKitten It is 10 months since I watched this video, I'm afraid I'm not going to spend another half hour watching it all over again to respond to you and your friend Davey. Only sad people with nothing better to do try to get into arguments on UA-cam about comments from 10 months ago and respond in a personally insulting and wholly illogical manner.
People seem to forget that work ethic is installed in us through upbringing, so that too is unfair to use as a criterion for rewarding or (often passive) punishing.
One thing which on the face of it some may find very puzzling ; how can Dr Starkey claim not to be a believing christian, and yet can describe the essence of Christian faith so accurately, whilst many lesser intellectuals who have next to no knowledge about theology, can have no problem believing with all their heart? I suggest that this may prove the supernatural nature of 'faith' as a gift, over which we have no choice.
I have never met a child that doesn't want to know stuff. So from the outset, a child in the nature of a child (child qua child) is a captive audience. It takes government run education to dilute a child's interest in learning. If you think for one moment that State education is to benefit children you could be understandably mistaken. State education is political partnership with teachers unions and securing votes, whilst having control over what the children learn to the ends that they learn in a way that is conducive to current politics. So there is no incentive top down, to roll out any measure of a Socratic methodology - meaning not to teach children what to think, but how to think. Good presentations like this, are good, but the methods will never be rolled out in actuality whilst government isn't challenged directly to "get out of the way!"
Absolutely 👍🏼 and so very sad that in 2023 we are witnessing the end product of a generation of brainwashed kids from state schools, do as I say not as I do, question nothing, never debate, bleat like a sheep 🐑.
Anthropology looks at what it means to be human - it includes religion, political, social, cultural, economic, the human form, and technology ….all of it counts because behind all the folkloric dances which I researched are religious ceremonies and it uses and worshipping the deities
Most of them are not really teaching at all what they are doing is going through the motions and they will try to concentrate on those that are interested. My school was like this 30 years ago. This is the product of the Labour unions communist plan. It is what they want.
I cannot believe that I exist in a universe where this sort of this can happen. Please tell me I am dreaming. I want to die right now. I cannot believe this happened.
Not necessarily untrue. The will and drive to progress along certain lines (e.g. medicine and not bricklaying) might have a lot to do with being born into a genteel family.
What type of "audio equipment".. seem like the sound is dissociated? However.. ALHAMDULILLAH.. for the REMINDER.. from Al Qur'an.. Will check it out OURSELVES.. always.. JazakallahuKhairan.. ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ... IQRA..IQRA.. Qur'an themsleves and not depend on others to teach them Islam.. Alhamdulillah.. Anyone CAn learn to READ now..IQRA...
Yeah, she went to acting school after this show. She was actually regarded as one of the more intelligent kids, Starkey even gave her a tour of Cambridge on her merits.
@@KRISTIANITY_ Because there is more to the Old Testament than just vengeance and judgement. For example the promises of mercy and the Messiah who will redeem His people that are fulfilled in the New Testament are made throughout the Old Testament. The New Testament also makes the same affirmations of God's judgement and examples of it are found throughout the New Testament. So it's simplistic to say the Old Testament is about vengeance and the New Testament is different because it is about mercy.
@@johnbull9195 Well the lack of detail is pretty much imposed by the audience I'd say, these kids would've fallen asleep had he started reciting bible verses, but this scarcity of specific examples doesn't make the view simplistic at all. Yes, I can find merciful bits in the old testament, and I can also find despicable horror in the new testament, but on the whole, if I had to force a quck generalization upon it and come to a conclusion as to which part of the bible is more tolerable, that would definitely throw the old testament out the window as the more barbaric and blood-thirsty version of Yahweh.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, The Romans killed 'Jesus', I mean it's in the bible: Romans took Jesus and crucified him. Why the fuck is Starkey blaming the Jews? The Catholic Church has already stated the Jews didn't kill 'Jesus'. ALSO it isn't until gentle 'Jesus' , meek, and mild... that you get eternal damnation and torture.
So you are saying that if these people were born into a middle class family in a good area that they would be the same? Either you think the way they act is based on genes or upbringing. Neither of which they can do anything about.
Respect to David Starkey, I´ve changed my mind about you - you´re a brilliant teacher. But the class - all wankers. They´re slobs the way they lounge around at their desks, can´t even speak their own language properly, their home lives must be dreadful. What to do? God knows!
This was a great lesson, but I notice that Starkey never really got around to answering Aysha's question -- he never directly explained the difference between a Catholic and a Protestant.
I'm a Baptist and I can tell you through research that Protestants were just as cruel as Catholics. Every religion and sect of that religion unfortunately has bad apples. Look at the Irish Potato Famine. I bear no grudge against the British for what happened to my Irish ancestors, nor do I believe that it was an attempt at genocide. But they were put into that dangerous, vulnerable position of relying on one crop and getting the absolute worst land through discriminatory land policies based off of their "crime" of being of the Catholic interpretation of Christianity. Also, many Irish were sold into slavery by some of the various Protestant-dominated governments that ruled England.
No-one is punishing anyone, everyone has an opportunity to achieve in life, whether it's through money or whatever. You cannot sit in 21st century Britain and claim that 'poor people can't achieve', because they're poor
Is this a special needs / troubled children school? Surely most young people are not like this? God I hope schools don't let children get away with talking and acting like this or the future is going to be a disaster. No wonder people leaving school and university can't get a job if they are even remotely like this. Society regressing. Maybe they should teach them English and socially acceptable behaviour instead.
Crouching Peacock I don't agree. Every person has there own take on education. This maybe down to there background or parental education. I found that the students did very well and engaged with what David said. And gave some quiet intelligent answers. Also these students, being about 15-16 years old, It's only natural that some of them lost interest. It's what teenagers do. So don't judge them too hard. I was in a class like this because I was dyslexic.(As you can tell from my poor grammer.) And I've turn out ok. I'am doing art at university.
Starkey is astonishing! These idiots who tantrum and shout and play dumb while Jamie blames school/society for letting them down have no idea that they're getting the best there is.
Starkey's wrong about a couple of things. One is that most people were garotted before they were burned (obviously not always, but in England this is what happened). He also claims that the Bible was written in Latin to keep it from being read by the people. At the time, anyone who could read could also speak Latin, so this can't be the case. In reality the Bible was kept in Latin to prevent people making unauthorised mistranslations. Otherwise having Starkey as a teacher would be great.
Wow Firstly, the stats on how many politicians come from privileged backgrounds completely disproves your statement. Secondly, it is even more worrying that you believe that the skills that you are born with should dictate your entire future. It is that completely compassion-lacking attitude that is why we have so called "scroungers" who have in fact been let down by the state. There will always be 50% of the population below average by definition, so it is pointless to punish them for it.
Also his views on the Crusades and Constantine are outdated and wrong. He's not a religion specialist, so I can forgive this. However, his conclusions are right. Religion was used as corrupted tool of the state.
Macabre and grotesque examples of teaching for children of this age, I would have thought sufficient to leave these things to the imagination of pupils.
Jesus said you shall know them by their fruits. There’s a difference between those full of hatred and those who abide in love. The God of the Old Testament is the God of all people. That’s why he sent prophets to other nations to give them multiple warnings to turn away from evil. Jesus claimed kinship with the Old Testament God.
@MrEggFried The best there is? You mean like casually saying Aysha's Mum of living in the Middle Ages because she is a devout Muslim? Tripping out the Jews killed Jesus line? That Catholics burned Protestants, but there were no mass killings the other way round - try Cromwell in Ireland... There are elements of inspired teaching on show here - the kids are the most attentive I've seen them in the series - but when it's wrapped in so much casual prejudice, it's not worth the benefits
@mrblonde200 If that's what he had actually said - rather than reffering to a particular individual - then I would imagine the PC brigade might do as you have done and indulge in some ludicrous agenda-driven hyperbole.
SaintJamesInfirmary The jews saw Jesus as a heretic since he proclaimed himself as the son of God. But the Jewish authorities had no way of condemning him since the political power was in the hands of the Romans. Now, the pagan Romans couldn’t care less about Jesus being the Messiah. But when Jesus also was proclaimed king of the Jews the Roman authorities reacted instantly considering he was a traitor. A “king” that had not been authorized by Rome. So the Jews simply had to hand him over to the romans and their problem was solved.
Tramseskumbanan ... well said .. this truth is missed by a lot of people who think the Jewish clergy held sway over Roman occupied land. Not a chance of that.
I understand the limitations under which Starkey is working. But to say that Christianity isn’t Jewish, especially in the context of its formation, is a troubling statement. Christianity represents what would become a major rift in Hellenistic Judaism. All of Jesus’ followers were Jews, and the founders of every Church were Jews. It’s one of the bitterest ironies. But it is also how Jewish morality and ethics enter Western thought and combined with Greek thought, forms our notions of liberal governance. Just to offer one other point of clarification: religion doesn’t kill people. Rather, the human intellect, divorced from the constraints of humility and tolerance for the integrity of the other person, is capable of true horrors. The greatest horrors of the 20th Century we’re far from religious. They were wrought by atheists. But common to all was the mindset, to ignore the individual in favor of the supremacy of the state; to idols of a mind unwilling to accept its own limitations.
Simon Jenner I don’t agree. There are clear injunctions in the bible and Koran to kill non believers, and those who broke laws, like working at the weekend. You tell me how religion doesn’t kill people when the very holy books which claim to be the word of god injunction you to kill.
Simon Jenner Hitler was a Catholic not an atheist. Stalin was an atheist. Neither did what they did in the name of atheism. No atheist has ever blown up anyone in the name of atheism. In fact the tyrannies of the C20 were driven by dogma - arguments from authority and control. Just like religion.
@@CanadianMonarchist he was a confirmed Catholic, the opening on mein kampf makes specific reference to Christ, and Hitler continued to use this imagery in his speeches, the German army went to war with belts that said “with god on our side”… the Catholic Church continued to celebrate Hitler’s birthday…I mean, how much more do you need?
You’re making the lazy mistake of saying that horrors in the C20 were caused by athiesm. But atheism is a lack of belief, in god, so it can’t directly cause anything. The cause of those problems was political dogma, which can exist whether or not someone is an atheist. There is no logical intellectual progression between being an atheist and killing people. There is a logical progression between people being religious and killing people, because this is specifically prescribed in their holy books.
You won't be able to have a bonfire or guillotin to demonstrate how capital punishment worked back then in schools now, bloody health and safety laws :P
Look, my point isn't that subtle, but its a bit more subtle than that. Because it is just about possible does not instantly make it fair. Your theory that "if I have the right natural intelligence and drive, I have just as much a chance becoming a politician or doctor as some posh kid" is clearly untrue judging by the number of MPs from impoverished council estates. Even for the ones that do escape, very few would share your view. Conversely, how many people in this video are ultra-rich?
So because a handful out of millions have done it you think there is not a problem? Typical Tory fallacies. Obviously the very brightest will often shine through, but that is not to say the rest should be doomed if they are not as able. Just because there are a few people who do manage to come from the bottom to the top does not mean as a whole their social-economic group has had the same opportunities and support that are clearly so advantageous to Cameron, Boris and the Eton lot.
An engaging lesson but pity that Starkey brings his prejudices in with him. To say the God of the Old Testament is a God of violence is very simplistic. Also, to explain a heretic as being someone who thinks differently is simplistic. It's not that simple-- its someone who questions the fundamental tenets of a religion.
A fair comment, to an extent, but he's not teaching at Cambridge with these guys, is he? Basic first, to get their attention, make sure they're following, then add greater depth and nuance.
Starting off a lesson with "We're going to burn a heretic" is an amazing opening line. Instantly grabs your attention. :p
"Marley was dead. To begin with."
I went to a Catholic school, so lessons occasionally began like that. Difference was, it wasn't a joke.
This is the kind of lesson that SHOULD be taught. It INSTANTLY engages the kids & they then sit up, pay attention & actually ask INTELLIGENT questions. The teacher knows enough to fully answer the questions in a manner that the kids can understand. The point is then hammered home by the practical demonstration. Compare the expressions on the kids' faces at the beginning of the clip & at the end of the burning & then afterwards. Kids like these are NOT stupid; just let down by shite politics.
I'm impressed. Not only by the topic but how students reacts with intelligent and sagacious questions. Every school should have that fort of lesson.
SophyaAgain true quite intelligently compared their backgrounds
one of these students was in Eastenders, I have a feeling it's staged
I don't agree. I saw mainly poor engagement that at times perked up, but, what I witnessed was a great teacher that impressed upon his pupils, but their enthusiasm was far less. This is why education fails the working class. The teacher can't enforce the attitude of the pupils, that is the job of the parents.
The sad thing about this programme is that you can see which kids actually care about learning but don't have the opportunities, and the kids that just don't care. Such a shame.
What I've seen is that it's actually mostly the boys who care more as well. Not to sound sexist, it's just what I've observed, you can see it as well - some of the girls with their extreme makeup or lack of care that don't seem to be from particularly troubled backgrounds. I wonder whether it's because we live in a society where women can rely on men later in their lives.
Dalibor Okoro Well judging an entire population by one class is hardly a scientific study but besides that, statistically, girls perform better than boys in school which defies your point. Perhaps girls are more interested other subjects? The history that David is teaching is laden with violence and other things that boys will naturally gravitate to.
I don't always agree with him, but Starkey is a brilliant communicator.
I have to admit I find Starkey absolutely fascinating. I think it may be the raised voice, pointing and slightly eccentric rudeness... Also opening a class with “Today we’re going to burn a heretic!” is fundamentally hilarious. I may not agree with everything he says but him challenging the class in the way he does, engages them.
He’s passionate about his subject and that comes through
Dr. Starkey, brilliant as always.
Why doesn't this video have more views? It's one of the most inspiring teaching i have ever seen
One of the greatest,classes about Organized Religion!
these students should know how lucky they are to have such an incredible teacher
Indeed, they seemed "laid back", but I think they still appreciated him in their own way, especially in the other episodes where they did show him respect and give him his authority.
Starkey brings a lot of his own prejudices into the lesson and a lot of what he said could be challenged, but he still gives a fab lesson, certainly better than anything I ever got at school.
+Liz Clegg prejudices lol
+UFOManNixon ????? "prejudices" - The noun can be plural, if that's your issue?
+Liz Clegg
Only ignorant people make accusations without backing up their claims.
+SilverishKitten It is 10 months since I watched this video, I'm afraid I'm not going to spend another half hour watching it all over again to respond to you and your friend Davey. Only sad people with nothing better to do try to get into arguments on UA-cam about comments from 10 months ago and respond in a personally insulting and wholly illogical manner.
Liz Clegg Lol that is such a weak and hypocritical answer.
this is practical and engaging history at its very best! those children are being taught and taught well.
Well Starkey himself is from a very poor background, he seems to have done something about it.
wow, Starkey is an inspirational teacher. I hope he's doing ok these days
Me to, I would love to know this hasn't broken him.
@@eindedroom4654 He's still writing for The Critic every now and then.
This is brilliant teaching!
Bloody brilliant- this is what kids want. Education. Fantastic. Instead of filling their heads with political propaganda
People seem to forget that work ethic is installed in us through upbringing, so that too is unfair to use as a criterion for rewarding or (often passive) punishing.
OMG this teacher is incredible 😮 how to teach …..they won’t forget this !
Amazing Teacher ! !
One thing which on the face of it some may find very puzzling ; how can Dr Starkey claim not to be a believing christian, and yet can describe the essence of Christian faith so accurately, whilst many lesser intellectuals who have next to no knowledge about theology, can have no problem believing with all their heart? I suggest that this may prove the supernatural nature of 'faith' as a gift, over which we have no choice.
Or maybe that he was properly educated. The last few generations have become more and more uneducated on basic knowledge around the christian faith.
pearls before swine...I would have killed to get a teacher like that in school.
I have never met a child that doesn't want to know stuff. So from the outset, a child in the nature of a child (child qua child) is a captive audience. It takes government run education to dilute a child's interest in learning. If you think for one moment that State education is to benefit children you could be understandably mistaken. State education is political partnership with teachers unions and securing votes, whilst having control over what the children learn to the ends that they learn in a way that is conducive to current politics.
So there is no incentive top down, to roll out any measure of a Socratic methodology - meaning not to teach children what to think, but how to think. Good presentations like this, are good, but the methods will never be rolled out in actuality whilst government isn't challenged directly to "get out of the way!"
Absolutely 👍🏼 and so very sad that in 2023 we are witnessing the end product of a generation of brainwashed kids from state schools, do as I say not as I do, question nothing, never debate, bleat like a sheep 🐑.
"Oh damn, he's caught fire," when the crowd ain't ready.
very interesting man... very alive lesson .. thanks
Starkey sounds constantly frantic, it's really exhausting to listen to, but I take it that it's in case those goons start to suddenly kick off.
Couldn't get more Essex than this
They're not the cream of the crop but they're learning, at least in this moment in time. No one was born nothing everything.
The cream of the crop are often, if not more so, worse people.
"Well come to ultramarine 101,today we're burning heretics"😂😂😂😂
great teacher.
"if you're a protestant what do you call this person?".. "A witch" LOOL
Anthropology looks at what it means to be human - it includes religion, political, social, cultural, economic, the human form, and technology ….all of it counts because behind all the folkloric dances which I researched are religious ceremonies and it uses and worshipping the deities
How can these kids start nodding off later on? Whats wrong with them!
How anybody teaches is beyond me.
Most of them are not really teaching at all what they are doing is going through the motions and they will try to concentrate on those that are interested.
My school was like this 30 years ago. This is the product of the Labour unions communist plan.
It is what they want.
Pearls before swine.
Tut, tut ;)
Love conductive Khola ;) ... Fancy finding you here! x
I cannot believe that I exist in a universe where this sort of this can happen. Please tell me I am dreaming. I want to die right now. I cannot believe this happened.
the blond girl in this vid the girl from eastenders billy's relation?
I will never understand why some people in school would just lie their heads on the desk in class. Could you look any more disinterested?
You should go back to school and learn the difference between uninterested and disinterested.
Is that LOLA from eastenders before the burning bit.?!?!!
Not necessarily untrue. The will and drive to progress along certain lines (e.g. medicine and not bricklaying) might have a lot to do with being born into a genteel family.
My mythbusters watching self would be intrigued to see a pig carcass for the described gritty effects to understand the whole of it.
one of the kid is smoking a fucking cigarette ffs lol
Khalil Mamouri thats least of the issue. better then drunk or too high to know where they are
Omg I wish he was my teacher
13:07 - Based Starkey!
This is enjoyable to watch but heretic burning and the September 11 attacks are different.
I think in the future when we have AI robot teachers they will all be programmed to talk and act like Dr. Starkey.
"ya'ere innit" What!?
What type of "audio equipment".. seem like the sound is dissociated? However.. ALHAMDULILLAH.. for the REMINDER.. from Al Qur'an.. Will check it out OURSELVES.. always.. JazakallahuKhairan.. ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ... IQRA..IQRA.. Qur'an themsleves and not depend on others to teach them Islam.. Alhamdulillah.. Anyone CAn learn to READ now..IQRA...
Please give subtitles next time my english aint as good as any of the students .cause im asian!
the girl with blond hair was in eastenders! danielle harold!
That's what I was thinking.
Yeah, she went to acting school after this show.
She was actually regarded as one of the more intelligent kids, Starkey even gave her a tour of Cambridge on her merits.
Rather simplistic overview of the Bible but interesting lecture.
Simplistic how?
@@KRISTIANITY_ Because there is more to the Old Testament than just vengeance and judgement. For example the promises of mercy and the Messiah who will redeem His people that are fulfilled in the New Testament are made throughout the Old Testament. The New Testament also makes the same affirmations of God's judgement and examples of it are found throughout the New Testament. So it's simplistic to say the Old Testament is about vengeance and the New Testament is different because it is about mercy.
@@johnbull9195 Well the lack of detail is pretty much imposed by the audience I'd say, these kids would've fallen asleep had he started reciting bible verses, but this scarcity of specific examples doesn't make the view simplistic at all. Yes, I can find merciful bits in the old testament, and I can also find despicable horror in the new testament, but on the whole, if I had to force a quck generalization upon it and come to a conclusion as to which part of the bible is more tolerable, that would definitely throw the old testament out the window as the more barbaric and blood-thirsty version of Yahweh.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, The Romans killed 'Jesus', I mean it's in the bible: Romans took Jesus and crucified him. Why the fuck is Starkey blaming the Jews? The Catholic Church has already stated the Jews didn't kill 'Jesus'. ALSO it isn't until gentle 'Jesus' , meek, and mild... that you get eternal damnation and torture.
So you are saying that if these people were born into a middle class family in a good area that they would be the same?
Either you think the way they act is based on genes or upbringing. Neither of which they can do anything about.
Respect to David Starkey, I´ve changed my mind about you - you´re a brilliant teacher. But the class - all wankers. They´re slobs the way they lounge around at their desks, can´t even speak their own language properly, their home lives must be dreadful. What to do? God knows!
They are not. They haven’t had the benefit of an education and lack confidence.
The most horrible thing a human can do is to execute a predator/yautja , predators are good, not kill them.
This was a great lesson, but I notice that Starkey never really got around to answering Aysha's question -- he never directly explained the difference between a Catholic and a Protestant.
I'm a Baptist and I can tell you through research that Protestants were just as cruel as Catholics. Every religion and sect of that religion unfortunately has bad apples. Look at the Irish Potato Famine. I bear no grudge against the British for what happened to my Irish ancestors, nor do I believe that it was an attempt at genocide. But they were put into that dangerous, vulnerable position of relying on one crop and getting the absolute worst land through discriminatory land policies based off of their "crime" of being of the Catholic interpretation of Christianity. Also, many Irish were sold into slavery by some of the various Protestant-dominated governments that ruled England.
No-one is punishing anyone, everyone has an opportunity to achieve in life, whether it's through money or whatever. You cannot sit in 21st century Britain and claim that 'poor people can't achieve', because they're poor
Is this a special needs / troubled children school? Surely most young people are not like this? God I hope schools don't let children get away with talking and acting like this or the future is going to be a disaster.
No wonder people leaving school and university can't get a job if they are even remotely like this. Society regressing. Maybe they should teach them English and socially acceptable behaviour instead.
Crouching Peacock I don't agree. Every person has there own take on education. This maybe down to there background or parental education. I found that the students did very well and engaged with what David said. And gave some quiet intelligent answers. Also these students, being about 15-16 years old, It's only natural that some of them lost interest. It's what teenagers do.
So don't judge them too hard. I was in a class like this because I was dyslexic.(As you can tell from my poor grammer.)
And I've turn out ok. I'am doing art at university.
Crouching Peacock yes kids from bad backgrounds and some even close to drop out of school
0:20 isnt that the girl actress form eastenders
Wish he was my teacher !
Starkey is astonishing! These idiots who tantrum and shout and play dumb while Jamie blames school/society for letting them down have no idea that they're getting the best there is.
Starkey's wrong about a couple of things. One is that most people were garotted before they were burned (obviously not always, but in England this is what happened). He also claims that the Bible was written in Latin to keep it from being read by the people. At the time, anyone who could read could also speak Latin, so this can't be the case. In reality the Bible was kept in Latin to prevent people making unauthorised mistranslations. Otherwise having Starkey as a teacher would be great.
Are these kids actors or do the british just act like this
I know that one of them did actually become an actress after this show. But no, these kids weren't actors at the time, just failed students.
Wow
Firstly, the stats on how many politicians come from privileged backgrounds completely disproves your statement.
Secondly, it is even more worrying that you believe that the skills that you are born with should dictate your entire future. It is that completely compassion-lacking attitude that is why we have so called "scroungers" who have in fact been let down by the state.
There will always be 50% of the population below average by definition, so it is pointless to punish them for it.
Some of what he said about the modern equivalent of burnings etc wouldn't be said in a classroom now. Just incase the woke inquisitors get fire happy.
Religion ! Twin towers ! Really ? What about money and greed ?
great teacher, great lesson, awful students
Great teacher now, awful teachers before.
Also his views on the Crusades and Constantine are outdated and wrong. He's not a religion specialist, so I can forgive this. However, his conclusions are right. Religion was used as corrupted tool of the state.
Macabre and grotesque examples of teaching for children of this age, I would have thought sufficient to leave these things to the imagination of pupils.
Is the blonde girl the girl out of Eastenders?
Jesus said you shall know them by their fruits. There’s a difference between those full of hatred and those who abide in love. The God of the Old Testament is the God of all people. That’s why he sent prophets to other nations to give them multiple warnings to turn away from evil. Jesus claimed kinship with the Old Testament God.
and then we went off to civilize the rest of the world
@MrEggFried The best there is? You mean like casually saying Aysha's Mum of living in the Middle Ages because she is a devout Muslim? Tripping out the Jews killed Jesus line? That Catholics burned Protestants, but there were no mass killings the other way round - try Cromwell in Ireland... There are elements of inspired teaching on show here - the kids are the most attentive I've seen them in the series - but when it's wrapped in so much casual prejudice, it's not worth the benefits
@mrblonde200
If that's what he had actually said - rather than reffering to a particular individual - then I would imagine the PC brigade might do as you have done and indulge in some ludicrous agenda-driven hyperbole.
I thought the Romans killed Jesus, not the Jews.
SaintJamesInfirmary The jews saw Jesus as a heretic since he proclaimed himself as the son of God.
But the Jewish authorities had no way of condemning him since the political power was in the hands of the Romans.
Now, the pagan Romans couldn’t care less about Jesus being the Messiah.
But when Jesus also was proclaimed king of the Jews the Roman authorities reacted instantly considering he was a traitor.
A “king” that had not been authorized by Rome.
So the Jews simply had to hand him over to the romans and their problem was solved.
Tramseskumbanan ... well said .. this truth is missed by a lot of people who think the Jewish clergy held sway over Roman occupied land.
Not a chance of that.
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I understand the limitations under which Starkey is working. But to say that Christianity isn’t Jewish, especially in the context of its formation, is a troubling statement. Christianity represents what would become a major rift in Hellenistic Judaism. All of Jesus’ followers were Jews, and the founders of every Church were Jews. It’s one of the bitterest ironies. But it is also how Jewish morality and ethics enter Western thought and combined with Greek thought, forms our notions of liberal governance. Just to offer one other point of clarification: religion doesn’t kill people. Rather, the human intellect, divorced from the constraints of humility and tolerance for the integrity of the other person, is capable of true horrors. The greatest horrors of the 20th Century we’re far from religious. They were wrought by atheists. But common to all was the mindset, to ignore the individual in favor of the supremacy of the state; to idols of a mind unwilling to accept its own limitations.
Simon Jenner I don’t agree. There are clear injunctions in the bible and Koran to kill non believers, and those who broke laws, like working at the weekend. You tell me how religion doesn’t kill people when the very holy books which claim to be the word of god injunction you to kill.
Simon Jenner Hitler was a Catholic not an atheist. Stalin was an atheist. Neither did what they did in the name of atheism. No atheist has ever blown up anyone in the name of atheism. In fact the tyrannies of the C20 were driven by dogma - arguments from authority and control. Just like religion.
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Hitler didn’t believe in Christianity.
@@CanadianMonarchist he was a confirmed Catholic, the opening on mein kampf makes specific reference to Christ, and Hitler continued to use this imagery in his speeches, the German army went to war with belts that said “with god on our side”… the Catholic Church continued to celebrate Hitler’s birthday…I mean, how much more do you need?
You’re making the lazy mistake of saying that horrors in the C20 were caused by athiesm. But atheism is a lack of belief, in god, so it can’t directly cause anything. The cause of those problems was political dogma, which can exist whether or not someone is an atheist. There is no logical intellectual progression between being an atheist and killing people. There is a logical progression between people being religious and killing people, because this is specifically prescribed in their holy books.
You get a little teaser of his somewhat outdated views now and again but I think he is in his element teaching young people! Who would of thought🤷♂️👌
the blonde hair gal is now in eastenders she plays billys grandaughter
Can we please uncancel Starkey!
You won't be able to have a bonfire or guillotin to demonstrate how capital punishment worked back then in schools now, bloody health and safety laws :P
He’s not right about the New Testament. It is full of threats of hell, and eternal damnation and Jesus says he has come to enforce the old laws.
@Jimminy Cricket if Jesus said he came to fulfil the old laws (eg mandating slave ownership and punishment) does that suggest he was opposed to them?
heretic.... aweseome game... ;)
(lol jokes- what i would've done for a teacher like this... though history teacher was actually pretty good)
Look, my point isn't that subtle, but its a bit more subtle than that.
Because it is just about possible does not instantly make it fair.
Your theory that "if I have the right natural intelligence and drive, I have just as much a chance becoming a politician or doctor as some posh kid" is clearly untrue judging by the number of MPs from impoverished council estates. Even for the ones that do escape, very few would share your view.
Conversely, how many people in this video are ultra-rich?
this should be a reminder of just how bad religion can be.
WTF is up with these kids?! Are they from a young offenders institution or a 'special' school? Or is this what kids are like these days?
So because a handful out of millions have done it you think there is not a problem? Typical Tory fallacies.
Obviously the very brightest will often shine through, but that is not to say the rest should be doomed if they are not as able.
Just because there are a few people who do manage to come from the bottom to the top does not mean as a whole their social-economic group has had the same opportunities and support that are clearly so advantageous to Cameron, Boris and the Eton lot.
come on heretic
Kids smoking, how euro lol.
An engaging lesson but pity that Starkey brings his prejudices in with him. To say the God of the Old Testament is a God of violence is very simplistic. Also, to explain a heretic as being someone who thinks differently is simplistic. It's not that simple-- its someone who questions the fundamental tenets of a religion.
In what way is saying that the God of the old testament is a God of violence a simplification?
A fair comment, to an extent, but he's not teaching at Cambridge with these guys, is he? Basic first, to get their attention, make sure they're following, then add greater depth and nuance.